Stellaris - Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Federations, But Were Afraid to Ask

[@A_Spec]

I am the Senate.

[@charlesmaddison212]

Not yet.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

No, I am the senate!

[@Ajnaran]

It's treason then.

[@EtanRedKnight]

@@charlesmaddison212 It's treason then e.e

[@SpaceTrump]

The Dolomite Cartel will rise! Buy our gassy farts its a deal you Can't refuse.

[@robertalaverdov8147]

Get ready for the "I am the senate comments".

[@teaser6089]

I am the senate

[@kettlehead8994]

It's treason then

[@outland2874]

Big Hammer AHHHHHHHH

[@earthfederationspaceforce9844]

@@teaser6089 not in my Federation

[@spicingdeed8931]

@@earthfederationspaceforce9844 it's treason then

[@ShamanMcLamie]

Utopia - Civics Apocalypse - Warfare Megacorp - Economics Federations - Diplomacy

[@MrMatek13]

Hope an Espionage & Leaders one is coming afterewards. The current Leaders are bland and espionage would add a really cool element to play around with.

[@Ruosteinenknight]

@@MrMatek13 I feel like espionage could be added as a feature for updates rather than as separate DLC's.

[@romulus2473]

@@Ruosteinenknight What are these "free content updates" you speak of? This is Paradox, kiddo. We're going to take your money if you want the next crumb of content.

[@jagothegamer5750]

Correction: Federations: *THE SENATE*

[@Ruosteinenknight]

@@romulus2473 First of all: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3_alIuqjKuKn8U You haven't heard what I have to say, yet you dismiss me as someone who hasn't played the game/speaks out of his ass.While ignorance is your right, assumption makes ass out of you and me. I admit, I didn't bring my point across in the first place quite clearly (Ok. none at all actually) but anyway. Second of all: there's no denying how much different updates have changed Stellaris: point on being second hand knowledge how everything was great before LeGuin patch or how everything was great before free jumping was delegated to hyperlines (I wasn't there so I can't confirm or deny.) The point what I try to make is that if espionage is so groundbreaking they can introduce it later.

[@igorwojtyna2158]

Everyone expects "I am the senate" comments Me "For a safe and secure society"

[@Osean_Kitty]

I love democracy, I love the Republic.

[@earthfederationspaceforce9844]

not in my Federation

[@jaquanzxcxz]

Osean Kitty But are you the senate

[@CheemsofRegret]

Hang on, I know you from somewhere

[@harbs613]

I love slaving the whole known world

[@davecrupel2817]

The power you give me, i will lay down when this crisis has abated.

[@thedoruk6324]

Objectives: Create Galactic Union Entegrate and subjectify all species; Genetically -modify- ''enhance'' them onto more acceptable (ie. Humanoid) forms... *Profit!*

[@MyopicPowerhouse]

basically just describing the Star Wars galaxy here

[@thedoruk6324]

@@MyopicPowerhouse or Combine

[@davidk1308]

I hope the system for passing laws and such in the Galactic community and Federations will be brought down for Internal politics. It would make a host of improvements if your factions could vote on issues within your Empire, and you had to either bribe them with policies they support, or override decisions with influence to pass what you want. Alongside internal strife, and harmony, like protests, rebellions, social movements, festivals, and support rallys, it would make your Empire feel more alive and vastly improve internal management imo.

[@joeandrew8752]

Honestly hope so. I'd rather internal politics than anything else thought if right now. Factions having levels and managing policies, while they vote on new laws. Maybe this would only be for player empires.

[@davidk1308]

@@joeandrew8752 That would be cool. Multi-level factions? Like progressively larger issues, and higher political power?

[@joeandrew8752]

@@davidk1308 something like that. What id like is faction levels with certain "resolutuons" locked behind certain levels and their approval for you. They could even do tge same vote in a senate that the new galactix comunity is doing. They level up based on support. So you have more reasons to pay attention to what they want. When you get an authoritarian faction or whatever that get to a high enough level that does not approve of you then you can have a rebellion or whatever. It seems doable at least. Maybe you could support other empire factions etc. Update leader agendas to be more interesting and add some events that will help or harm a faction. Even have non ethics factions like pirates / syndicate or rebel/ mercenaries if you want to get creative. With their own wants. Evil factions in your empire you have to suppress etc. The bigger you are the worse they get. So you can't just take over half the galaxy and by midgame feel bored since you don't need anymore planets.

[@tenacity25]

This could help make different government types more unique and interesting. In dictatorships, they could disable this system, monarchies they could allow you to interfere with it by forcing a certain side to win or lose a vote at the cost of some faction opinion and influence, oligarchies you could spend influence to influence it, and democracies you could participate in the vote but not have more power than other factions aside from acting as the deciding vote in a tiebreaker situation (eg if votes tie your side wins). Obviously this system could maybe be done better, but just thought it was a neat idea.

[@kotzpenner]

I would like to have about a dozen or more minor laws with minor effects that you can't vote on but sway it with influence. Like if a faction becomes strong enough, it will propose one of these laws and if they don't like you, they will propose a harmful one. Like happy militarists would propose a law regarding fleet size, something like +5% fleet capacity (or something else minor) for like +5% usage of consumer goods to make up for it. An unhappy faction could pass something like a martial law, which creates unhappiness for example. And different factions (since in the new update factions will become far stronger and more diverse than now) could have coalitions, like materialists being in favour of maybe militarist laws and directly opposing religious laws. Maybe 4 per faction, so about 24 and maybe some generic ones. Those could be also unlocked by the Galactic Community.

[@tomasbattiston3172]

The republic won't be reformed into the first galactic empire or will it?

[@Usernamewhatever1443]

Hey Vsauce, Michael here!

[@haesung2148]

That's what romans thought.

[@TheArklyte]

Everything I wanted to know about Federations since announcement is release date.

[@N0TYALC]

TheArklyte They already announced the release date, bro. Expect it to launch sometime in late 2019.

[@TheArklyte]

@@N0TYALC do you also treat Coming Soon on Steam page as date announcement by any chance?

[@Coolinjay04]

@@N0TYALC so it should be out rn then correct

[@abunchoftvs4018]

N0TYALC late 2019?

[@jaquanzxcxz]

N0TYALC So you are saying I gotta go back in time to get this dlc damnit

[@FELONIOUSBOLUSS]

tfw there is no Galactic Church federation so you can't declare universal Jihad/Crusade on them xenofilth.

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

Because religions don’t tend to work well together, three empires based on three different religions, reli 1: I have the truth. Reli 2 : no I have the truth. Reli 3: you’re all wrong and that makes you heretics, Crusade!

[@j2dragon109]

TheNinthGeneration Or, they could be the same religion. Spiritualist Empires already get along.

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

J2Dragon but that’s on earth with humanity, all god’s have similar claims of humans being #1 above all others because we are like the gods. Other religions would promote their species, thus you get a contradiction

[@pipgang8566]

@@TheNinthGeneration1 You could easily headcannon it as a sort of "Church Convention" where they get together and create a universal religion, thus creating a "federation". If a bunch of religious aliens got together and realized they had similar religions in a overall sense, dispite being seperated by light years, and also found out that they live in a galaxy of Materialist scum, its not inconceivable they could try and reconcile their faiths in the name of Pragmatism imo.

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

PipGang that could be possible over time

[@Statler116]

I think the time there taking is solely for performance. Would be worried if they bought a performance update out quickly on a beast like Stellaris. Love the pop system but it really can make it chug, not to mention late game unit movements. Had a look in late game the AI fleet managers, literally hundreds of unused 'fleet designs'.

[@coot33]

2.0 was supposed to make the game less lag. Doubt they can do anything to improve the situation the game basic design makes it laggy.

[@Greytruth2]

I kinda want there to be an option to succeed from a federation and have other members join you in a separatist movement... I want the Clone Wars damnit!

[@YberDC]

Very fancy. Where are the performance and AI improvements? Fixing the broken AI loadouts and behaviour all around? Fix what you have, make the game work. The full PD AI fleet joke got old long ago.

[@NortonjawX]

I dont really understand why theres no way to merge the federation.

[@romulus2473]

Probably because mechanically it would be difficult. In an MP game, how's that work if two players are in a Fed? I guess it could be an SP-only feature like the End of the Cycle.

[@diobrando9685]

@@romulus2473 I dont think the end of the cycle is SP only. 2 People used it in the dev clash.

[@NortonjawX]

@@diobrando9685 Yeah thats what I was thinking. I dont see why the game couldn't just end for those nations who get sucked up to that one mega-empire or something similar.

[@justinthompson6364]

That was probably modded. There are a bunch of mods that bring the End of The Cycle into MP

[@joeandrew8752]

1) You have a whole economy that has a role in how we build and manage our fleets for war. Systems for resources, minerals and an energy, planets for more minerals and energy and then for alloys. Having a federation do basically the same thing as war all at the cost of influence removes an incentive to do war. 2) we all say the AI can't manage planets, so now imagine having to manage 20 to 30 more planets all at once. 3) the game would end for some people if this were a thing. Unless they build a system where 2 people can manage 1 empire. Just some ideas. It's a cool idea but gameplay wise it's not so great.

[@tirannomatto5612]

I still really hope for a performance improvement released alongside Federations, but the feeling of Paradox being very freakin lazy in 2020 on Stellaris development has never been stronger

[@teaser6089]

2020 is just beginning lol

[@robelmurph]

While I love this game, there is a host of things i wish they would fix before adding any new stuff to the game. Don't think it's going to happen though.

[@teaser6089]

@@robelmurph I'd like to know what you think should be fixed? As I agree there should be a lot more fixing, but the federations and diplomacy did need a bit of love though :)

[@robelmurph]

@@teaser6089 Well, we can go with the most commonly talked about one's performance and AI. I also happen to think that factions still need some work. As they are a bit out of balance right now and can ruin some games.

[@teaser6089]

@@robelmurph agreed, I'd like them to do that yes and more story would be nice, but the AI is so stupid, I'd also love that diplomacy would feel less liniar lol

[@wilsthelimit]

Give me a feature that allows me to creat a space Austro Hungarian empire and I’ll be happy

[@diobrando9685]

Then I want a feature for assassinations of leaders.

[@wilsthelimit]

Dio Brando That’d be cool as well

[@matthewmcneany]

Every patch I start by trying to build a viable neo-feudal agrarian/peasant based space empire, every patch I fail. But, there will come a time when all pay homage to the king of space.

[@TheDoctorfat]

I mmean there's a federation for an empire with puppets, with the overlord being head of the federation

[@Bayofthe91st]

But that mean you would also have an idiot overly patriotic general / admiral who cannot even fight a war that he / she's starting and also led ruin to 2 other allied empires at the end lol

[@andyb2977]

Something you seems to have missed, ASpec is that regular empires can fom Trade Leagues if they have the merchant guild civic. In a previous video you seem to have gotten this civic confused with the corporate dominion civic (which is only available if you don't own megacorps). But merchant guilds civic is available even to regular empires even if you own megacorp.

[@ShamanMcLamie]

What would be neat for a trade league is being able to buy shares(diplomatic influence) that gives your votes greater weight.

[@StarshadowMelody]

I still want a special kind of hive mind empire that can allow non hive mind pops to live within it's territory. For it's flaws, the Origins system does seem ripe for that...

[@TheWereparadox]

Just make the lastest video game hivemind exclusive. Everyone will be begging to become part of the Enclave.

[@Pilgrym52]

Really cant wait to get my hands on this expansion, the fact that it's clearly been delayed is super good also.

[@goatfish480]

I gotta say I've loved watching your videos for ages now and you have a great voice! Thanks for all your Stellaris vids, I've always found the random things I learn from them amusing or just flat out cool. Keep up the good work man.

[@pedrobrazon6610]

Ok, time to reenact the star union for real now, about time 😍

[@masterdark598]

This would of been lovely a couple of years ago but currently i'd just like to be able to play one...just one... Multiplayer game to completion with my buddy without the inevitable desyncs at the 2400+ year mark. Playing on smaller map sizes, graphic options etc does fanny all, no one should have to cripple their experience to extend play time. Informative video as always Aspec, thanks.

[@callumkearney4953]

I just want more dlc for the console version and the humanoid ship and portrait pack!

[@joakim482]

Have to agree on that one. There's only, what, 3 DLC to consoles? And like a dozen to PC? Which is understandable, but at the same time a bit disappointing.

[@kkhagerty6315]

Callum Kearney they’re all coming this year

[@joakim482]

@@kkhagerty6315 Awesoooome, thanks man :)

[@TechnoMinarchist]

There needs to be an I am the Senate reference in an event in this update.

[@thisisme-u9j]

What we really want: Release Date and a Release...

[@abunchoftvs4018]

Michael Scheller they held back the release date to fix some things with the base game in a free update that comes along with the DLC

[@Caststriker]

@@abunchoftvs4018 That still didn't answer the question asked.

[@abunchoftvs4018]

`_ ́ sure it didn’t, I was just to ignorant to notice the actual meaning of the question

[@ImagenNoReligion]

I'm underwhelmed by this expansion, even though it addresses some current issues, it still feels more like a patch than a DLC. Is that just me?

[@aknight1096]

I believe they're also sorting out the performance issue which is a major problem in need of a fix.

[@tonimarin3234]

ImagenNoReligion Welcome to Paradox

[@MuffinYoBusiness]

I’m really curious as to where stellaris will go from Federations

[@scoot.112]

Federations comes out on console in 3 days and I’m hyped

[@arvidholmberg6526]

It’s out! Have you played it?

[@scoot.112]

@@arvidholmberg6526 federations didn’t come out, well not the dlc but stuff like diplomats and the galactic community are out

[@arvidholmberg6526]

@@scoot.112 well isn’t it just the juggernaut missing? The rest, envoys, federation politics and origins are out right?

[@scoot.112]

@@arvidholmberg6526 only some origins The ones that are out are: Life seeded Prosperous Unification Lost colony Machinist Post apocalyptic Syncretic evolution Galactic doorstep Calamitous birth Resource consolidation And Tree of life We have envoys but I don’t know about federation types cuz it came out yesterday Some stuff from federations is in the game but inaccessible

[@arvidholmberg6526]

@@scoot.112 oh, that’s a bit disappointing

[@An_Average_Arsonist]

The only Q&A I'm interested in is whether that 40 second trailer for the console edition is all we're going to get until August again.😖

[@samuelr.6046]

R.ip

[@Arantigos]

Could you please make a series using the mod collection Stellaris Reborn, I would love to see a play through of it.

[@HAYJ04]

Oh yeesss this is the expansion im most excited about

[@juliankirby9880]

So, I’ve encountered a scary situation. I downloaded the mod compilation on steam that has a whole bunch of stuff, and I got a relic called the Pandora’s box in 2240. It gave me 10 years till an end game crisis. It gave me the unbidden. They spawned on the other side of the map, next to a wormhole to my territory. My fleet power is 60k or so for 2 fleets. Each of thier fleets is 260k. And they just keep spawning. I am on easy, but the unbidden already started taking AI territory at a disturbingly fast rate. What are my chances of survival of having the Unbidden in the galaxy at 2250?

[@mikewlazlinski4309]

You are Fuggin dead.

[@mauricocruz7405]

Meanwhile me and countless other console peasants will look sadly at this wonderful doc being played by pc guys

[@Hacker-pt3wm]

Give Paradox some time. They will do it eventually.

[@matthewmcneany]

Someone need to uplift this poor primitive.

[@Hacker-pt3wm]

@@matthewmcneany uplift? I believe you mispelled exterminate.

[@matthewmcneany]

​@@Hacker-pt3wm You've been warned before - One more event like the Kaldor incident and you're out the federation.

[@Hacker-pt3wm]

@@matthewmcneany *sigh*. But the primitives don't deserve to live in our galaxy. They can barely even put two rocks together. Uplifting them would be far too much work.

[@NFalco-ih1pr]

Once federations comes out, you can realize your infinity war dreams with the Juggernaut as your Thanos ship

[@micasa8421]

Video about federations? Release date soon to be announced for sure.

[@jackwillhelm7622]

I absolutely love your videos and I mean all of them Ive watched damn neaar all of them used to play on console back when it only had utopia dlc and now ive got everything on pc and xbox one and wouldve never gotten as far as i did without your videos

[@owmypinkytoe6907]

The juggernauts look like the Vasari loyalist titan from Sins of a Solar Empire

[@marklevibetancourt1]

Right now I'm attempting a game where I raise up the primitives as my vassal and having them join a federation eventually. I have to let a vassal go and then invite to federation is risky but I'm about to do this somehow I have 15 prim vassals lol

[@Norseman4]

@ASpec, seeing as you're seemingly more updated than most of us, you have any sense of a release date, roughly? I remember reading that the release would be in Q1 2020 (whether that source was reliable or not I do not know), but considering that there is yet to be an official announcement about the date, I'm wondering if, unfortunately, we may have to wait till Q2...

[@pierre-andrelecomte9384]

still not a single playthrough of the updated gigastructure "birch world" mod on YT (or I just can't find it) if someone knows one, ill be happy for the link.

[@A_Spec]

Check my latest Gigastructures video.

[@Caigul]

some form of council would be cool like field marshal and economic head

[@5stringsire]

Space Pope. I need space Pope

[@Emanon...]

Aspen, you fucking legend! Nothing further. Move along, please.

[@daddymonkey7361]

The only thing I fear are not having enough aliens to purge not asking some questions i can call up in the imperial database.

[@Kaiser282]

Bureaucracy. Were are my Vogons? Don't make me get the poetry...

[@joakim482]

Actually made me chuckle. Thanks random dude :)

[@KriegerTiger]

The main thing i want to know is if they finally fixed the mp desync problem thats hitting nearly every game 100 years in

[@Renigade16]

Sees Federation is an "option". Laughs in IMPERIUM OF MAN. Subjection and Extermination is the only path!

[@dark_lord_talion6487]

I would love a federation that everyone's ethics is tied to them so it's a really unified federation so it seems more like a big empire that's broken down to sub empires aka yours and other empires

[@jackieclan815]

So kinda like the USA🇺🇸?

[@dark_lord_talion6487]

@@jackieclan815 yes if we think of it like the states were their own empires serving the government which had a mind of its own I know it would probably be a game mechanic nightmare but it's one of the things I've always wanted

[@jackieclan815]

@@dark_lord_talion6487 Yeah same here it would be Hella interesting

[@dark_lord_talion6487]

@@jackieclan815 having to adapt to what the federation says would be so weird like they could tax you or tell you to go colonize or something and you have to do it

[@jackieclan815]

@@dark_lord_talion6487 ikr but it would be so interesting! Idk if you ever heard of Bannerlord but that would be crazy if they implement it in that game as well

[@joakim482]

Might be an amateur question since I've only been playing for like 6 months or so on my X1, but what are the ship types at 02:46? And the weapon that they fire? The range must be over 200 or so?

[@Regunes]

Last I heard you can not be the leader of a federation if you do not have the perk for federation.

[@rickdevonshire9437]

Which DLC has hive mind and devouring swarm? It keeps changing

[@bbgamegodpnw]

Watching this, waiting for your federation console update video lol

[@delivererofdarknessshoguno1133]

How duel would even work? Is it RNG or will there be some sort of personal combat stat?

[@danielramirez1529]

So are subjects vassals or protectorates and there is potential to use them to make a homemade federation?

[@yorkthirthebear4243]

It’s a shame I can’t liquify a Federation granted I have enough diplomatic weight, influence and/or power and just.. Go all Palpatine in the galaxy, totally ethics shift and such

[@v4vendetta237]

Has the mid to late game been fixed yet or is it still lagging?

[@reaverz7997]

Lagging 10/10

[@Palpatine001]

0:15 what the devs have to say? Heck Aspec last time you talked about the Devs you had to post a second video with their 'reaction' quite quickly with Federations still not released. Oh and yes: I am the Senate.

[@donkeylover4449]

Console player here. Came here soon paradox announced the next update.

[@zacharybuilder]

When Federations Come out, will Stellaris KZbinr War Season 3 come out or when 3.0 comes along?

[@Netradon]

I just started playing and am doing pretty darn well got a federation with 2 empires in it

[@Netradon]

Got great with them relations to

[@dominion3441]

I’m afraid that performance won’t be fixed by the time this comes out

[@theengine]

Why would you be scared? You can only be scared they won't fix it if you think there's a possibility that they MIGHT fix it. Which they won't.

[@tylerdevries8226]

can you start a civil war in a federaion ?

[@tkbrown8967]

Will it be easier to get other empires to join the federation? Normally I can get maybe ONE other to join me

[@alphariusfuze8089]

*First be "friends" , then we-*

[@dakotadean1057]

I wish that it provided more influence over your federation members, as it currently stands you still have to brainwash people or hope for a natural ethics shift over time. For example a federation of peaceful xenophiles has one member thats a techno-militarist, in federations they could have given us tools to influence them into becoming less or more agressive

[@GyorBox]

Why does only the leader get to control the Fed fleet? Shouldn't all members get their own Fed fleet? And the leader should get, say, 3 Fed fleets..? I don't think it's fair that only one at a time gets to play with the strength of the federation that they're a part of.

[@mihilding]

I've always wondered what species gives you the ship style that you use in this video?

[@GyorBox]

ASpec, you should update your ship guides for the current patch.

[@maddic08]

what ships are those at 9:16, i dont recall them in the game.. mod?

[@A_Spec]

Kuragane Mod.

[@Tetragramix]

Can you start in a federation with your friends?

[@Stormwave6]

I hope they fix the lag soon. I want to play the game again

[@marekzawal1744]

All i need to know right now is release date. I knew all the rest before.

[@A_Spec]

Soon.

[@The_Note_lt]

Only thing I want to know is state of late game, is it playable or not?

[@InquisitorShepard]

Ok. But what if, let say, all your games consist of you spawning in the middle of a bunch of opposite ethics empires? I tried spiritualist, got materialists and machine empires near me, with one "ally" which got me into a war with nearly half the galaxy. I tried xenophobic authoritarian, I got democratic crusaders and federation builders banding together against me, then I tried machine empire and got an entire galaxy minus 1 empire with some degree of spiritualist, or I try xenophile pacifist, I get a militarist xenophobic with a bunch of determined exterminators all around my home system, on all sides. My latest attempt was the machine one, and after an 7 hour session on a new game, I noticed I forgot to turn on the autosave (I turn it off in multi so less desync) and the game crashes. My whole morning gone lol. Autosave save lives.

[@hadimali6392]

Ofcourse religions and non-religous ones must be the core system and they should be able to open great wars to defend the religion , democracy etc. The others should be joining too even if you are not ally.

[@calebgonzales3836]

"We will have peace"

[@sethfosterfoster9124]

Bro, I just wanted to know how to contribute some of my fleet to the federation

[@ImperialEarthEmpire]

yeah, i want deus vult in space too... any planet refuse my holy book will be wipe out from the map...

[@Millipede666]

Ferengi? I'm not sure you have the lobes!

[@Rokos_Basilisk]

How do you get your fedaration buddies to let other empires in?

[@jjb33083]

7:37 Something like a Uchiha police force? No judgment from me, Naruto is space would be interesting... but I'm new here, could've been done already.

[@Sindibad007]

We need them to address performance issues...

[@JohnSmith-vm6hd]

Is the only thing we wanted to know in the video? the relase date. I guess not .....

[@dirtrussel5882]

is there a release date for Federations?

[@joshDammmit]

When is this coming out for console??? What's the word? Gotta have a juggernaut

[@Vipus2501]

All this sounds pretty cool, but if they don't fix the game performance it won't make a difference. Game is barely playable after the 2100s and takes forever to do anything. Federations will most certainly make it worse if the is no significant performance fix.

[@LoyalHulk07]

Oh, a League of Non-Aligned Worlds, "...get the hell out of our galaxy!"

[@funnelingspace9268]

Wait is the federations dlc out yet?

[@cjcross1800]

When will it be released

[@MrCoolwipe]

Any news for console updates ??

[@YouthOobe]

What? You can release a planet after having colonized it? Did I understand correctly?

[@a_Minion_of_Soros]

The EU wants to consolidate into a federal state. That is just a fact...

[@riku3716]

Unity of humanity is necessary if we are to ever exterminate the xenos. All hail god emperor Merkel.

[@mandaloretheangry9043]

CIS time

[@TheArklyte]

Feels like everybody was most interested in playing criminal syndicates, but 99% of us failed with it miserably:( I feel like the only way to play with it is to hope to get advanced start on neighbours, reroll starts until you get the head of the prophet and support of Fallen Empire and then torture and extort all your advanced neighbours. So... around 40-50 restarts and attempts later:D

[@maledwarfwarrior]

Criminal syndicate synergizes really well with xenophobe, as it removes the biggest downside xenophobe megacorps have. Attack with the show superiority CB and raise the devastation on the world's you want to set up shop on, and crime will skyrocket. This gives you time to build more buildings to raise crime high enough to stay or cripple their economy with the AI going berserk with enforcers. Win/win scenario IMO.

[@LCInfantry]

What is “associated status”?

[@galenwrathweld]

Dam look at all these senates.

[@IgorPCabral]

The Senate Will Decide Your Fate!

[@cincinlovag4647]

just a question ASpec, have you played Endless Space 2?

[@A_Spec]

I have. Tried to play with Horatio, couldn't get into it.

[@cincinlovag4647]

i dont played yet, but all the factions are interesting, i would try all of them :) i even wanted to create Endless Space factions in Stellaris because why not, but there are a lot what you cant. Umbral Choir for example, you cannot play as psionic entities, dont even mension that they are an invisible empire. and you cannot create Vaulters because of Cherryh update... honestly, i prefer more the old Stellaris with the old resource and colony management mechanics without the Cherryh and Le Guine updates

[@saalocins]

when is the release date?