Step-by-step Guide to Mastering Pop Music | Are You Listening? Season 6, Ep 5

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iZotope, Inc.

iZotope, Inc.

Күн бұрын

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@jayburd1875
@jayburd1875 Жыл бұрын
"Tickle the threshold with that long release time... " this is a life lesson.
@statespace
@statespace Жыл бұрын
Excellent idea to put on a limiter first and find out the problematic areas before any processing. Wow! Thank you for that guys
@kelvinfunkner
@kelvinfunkner Жыл бұрын
really really awesome peek behind "the curtain" and I especially loved the thought processes behind the moves....having it "talked out" along the way in order to see the "why's" behind the changes was what made all the difference!
@skymakai
@skymakai Жыл бұрын
I love this series and really appreciate having Johnathan provide so much wisdom. I'd really like more 'electronic', 'dance' and 'bass music' examples. Maybe it's just me and that these genres are 'less difficult' to master, but it's the genre I'm most involved with.
@olkid5076
@olkid5076 Жыл бұрын
Same!
@baselinesweb
@baselinesweb Жыл бұрын
I like the insight you give about the tool design. For instance, it was great to get the knowledge that the tube setting on the limiter has a long release time of 2 seconds. Well done!
@rickbiessman6084
@rickbiessman6084 8 ай бұрын
5:58 Gotta give this video a like purely for the fade out already. Thanks a million times for that
@KingGrio
@KingGrio Жыл бұрын
It's hilarious. At 7 mins or so he basically explains in very polite and professional terms that modern pop music is basically bass drones and sub-kick impulses with clicky robotic sampler style high hat hits, and a vocal. It's really devolved into the most minimal components. He also points out these high hats annoy the hell out of everyone hearing this come out of small speakers, or worse yet: crappy earbuds while riding the public transports. Verse is basically a telephone effect as the gimmick to contrast this chorus section, because honestly what else can you do that has less things happening than the chorus. I'm not even sure you can still talk about arrangement under these circumstances. And then he goes on to explain how he is going to master that. He must be the most professional guy I've ever seen, for being able to express in such terms and while keeping a straight face that this is a cool tune that is interesting to master. Don't get me wrong, I think Jonathan Wyner is great. But modern pop music ? I can't believe I was complaining about it in the 90s, it's become so much worse.
@lashtal
@lashtal Жыл бұрын
lol, love what you said.
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 11 ай бұрын
Another masterclass from Jonathan. Superb stuff.
@Reixmusic
@Reixmusic Жыл бұрын
What a Masterclass!!! Thanks izotope!!🔥🙌🏻
@joshuawallwork6678
@joshuawallwork6678 Жыл бұрын
This guy's even cooler than I thought! He listens to Stromae!!
@jamespingel8730
@jamespingel8730 Жыл бұрын
It was really cool to see how you'd tackle a mix like this. As I was watching along I was thinking to myself "I wouldn't want a static EQ on that hihat because then the verses are going to be missing top end, so I would've reached for a dynamic EQ there", and then you go and automate the whole EQ out instead. It was a much more dramatic move than I usually make, but insightful. If it's not too much trouble I'd love to see more like this.
@iZotopeOfficial
@iZotopeOfficial Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear about your go-to method. More is coming for sure. Thanks for the feedback!
@monkmusic5994
@monkmusic5994 Жыл бұрын
Best and most informative/detailed mastering clip ever seen. Thank you.
@iZotopeOfficial
@iZotopeOfficial Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it 🙏
@mrfrankdamsax
@mrfrankdamsax Жыл бұрын
Great series! Very informative. Thank you
@Barncore
@Barncore Жыл бұрын
Wow this was great. Super useful. Thanks
@ddutchofficial
@ddutchofficial Жыл бұрын
Very good video. Thanks
@angusbabb4913
@angusbabb4913 Жыл бұрын
brilliant ! ..i learnt so much , thank you!😀
@waldemar_vogel
@waldemar_vogel Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. Nice to see a professional engineer explaining the software.
@iZotopeOfficial
@iZotopeOfficial Жыл бұрын
Are there any tips for mastering a genre like pop that we might be missing? Let us know in the comments!
@rogercabo5545
@rogercabo5545 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mr Wyner, how do you get high frequencies above 13kHz up to 17kHz under control? Nearly everyone above 60 or much sooner loose it's ability to hear above 12kHz.. Did you have hints or tricks how to get the top end under control?
@itwontstopprods
@itwontstopprods Жыл бұрын
I use Partition too as a reference for how ridiculously heavy (sub) bass can be in a track! "Down to 30 hz or even all the way down to DC, in the center of the earth" 🤣🤣
@seldom23
@seldom23 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan your are wonderful instructor! If I may make a small suggestion - relative loudness between narrated instruction and musical examples - I find I'm riding the volume as it goes back and forth (in this video and others in the series), bringing the volume up a bit for the music treatment (particularly for low end examples), and then quickly have to dial back when we return to narration - typically say +/- 3 bars on a macbook volume slider (yes, I'm listening on can :) Best regards
@hape.
@hape. Жыл бұрын
Great and insightful content! Thanks Izotope and Jonathan!
@dextercon
@dextercon Жыл бұрын
thanks you izotope ❤
@Soundguydan
@Soundguydan Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks!
@etcot8220
@etcot8220 Жыл бұрын
I agree that low end bass is bit too wonky, glad you had the same observation roughly. Interesting video for sure, great content in other words, many 👍 thx for the upload
@PedroCampana-c9t
@PedroCampana-c9t 9 ай бұрын
So do you have one instance of Ozone for each part of the song? One for the chorus, one for the verse... Thank you!
@QueMusiQ
@QueMusiQ Жыл бұрын
I want that song! So dope!
@kovoliver
@kovoliver Жыл бұрын
This video was very useful, thank you!
@GloveBunniesVideos
@GloveBunniesVideos Жыл бұрын
I always wondered if it would make mastering easier to give the engineer stereo stems (drums, bass, vocals, synths, etc.) instead of just a stereo track, but that would most likely make the mastering process much, much harder. Great video!
@TokyoSpeirs
@TokyoSpeirs Жыл бұрын
That's called Stem mastering, a common practice!
@GloveBunniesVideos
@GloveBunniesVideos Жыл бұрын
@@TokyoSpeirs Thanks!
@VonnieVonVonX2
@VonnieVonVonX2 Жыл бұрын
Thank You ✔️
@bradleypower4803
@bradleypower4803 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain why you would bring down the threshold instead of just increasing the input to the plugin itself? Thanks!
@pawel9450
@pawel9450 Жыл бұрын
Great Video
@pawel9450
@pawel9450 Жыл бұрын
but please keep before/after listening- parts a little longer ;)
@Ein-Stuck
@Ein-Stuck Жыл бұрын
Will Audio Lens ever work with Tonal Balance Control 2? It would be a nice..
@iZotopeOfficial
@iZotopeOfficial Жыл бұрын
The target curves created by Audiolens are not officially compatible with Tonal Balance Control unfortunately, but many thanks for the feedback!
@FusedMusic
@FusedMusic Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, but I'd appreciate more an 'electropop' 'synthpop' example. So many tutorials lean into that base heavy hip/hop area, but a more pure electro 'pop' area would be really appreciated.
@iZotopeOfficial
@iZotopeOfficial Жыл бұрын
Many thanks for sharing your feedback 🙏
@rogercabo5545
@rogercabo5545 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mr Wyner, how do you get high frequencies above 13kHz up to 17kHz under control? Everyone above 60 loose it's ability to hear above 12kHz.. Did you have hints or tricks how to get the top end under control?
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 11 ай бұрын
As a guy in his fifties with diminished high-frequency perception, I rely on the visual feedback from Tonal Balance Control and spectrograms in EQ plugins. I mix top end with my eyes, not ears!
@dgunzbeatz
@dgunzbeatz Жыл бұрын
My question is for the high end why not use iZotope transient processor to bring bring down the hi hat that disturbs the mix to avoid tampering the clarity of the Voclas
@Enice43
@Enice43 Жыл бұрын
What headphones are you using for this
@ramonaguayo7281
@ramonaguayo7281 Жыл бұрын
I found i another comment saying LCD MX 4, but from what I could find online it looks closer to LCD-X by Audeze
@stephenmcnamara9928
@stephenmcnamara9928 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always Jonathan. Quick question -- is there a way to make the default "Learn Threshold" in the Maximizer to be something other than -11.0 LUFS?
@iZotopeOfficial
@iZotopeOfficial Жыл бұрын
Hey! For any questions about Ozone, feel free to get in touch with our product support team directly here: bit.ly/izo_prod
@itwontstopprods
@itwontstopprods Жыл бұрын
Yes, just click and drag up/down on that value
@stephenmcnamara9928
@stephenmcnamara9928 Жыл бұрын
@@itwontstopprods I realize that -- I meant setting a default of, e.g., -14LUFS when the mastering chain is prepared.
@itwontstopprods
@itwontstopprods Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmcnamara9928 oh sorry - then just adjust and save it as your default for the limiter?
@stephenmcnamara9928
@stephenmcnamara9928 Жыл бұрын
@@itwontstopprods No apologies necessary, and I'm not sure how one sets -14.0 LUFS in the Maximizer limiter as a default. I thought I checked the settings for this and didn't find it but maybe I missed it. If a default of -14 LUFS can be set, that would very helpful because when I run the Master Assistant with the -11 LUFS default, it's higher than I'd like it to be to start. Thanks for the help.
@lameraviglia
@lameraviglia Жыл бұрын
great video as usual. i wonder, how do you adjust volume when you´re working with headphones? (since you can´t measure it like you would do with speakers)
@janarefin4744
@janarefin4744 Жыл бұрын
after setting the limiter does he mix into it the time after that?
@vitaliano1978
@vitaliano1978 Жыл бұрын
what headphones exactly are these guys ?
@leandroTavioCabrera
@leandroTavioCabrera 2 ай бұрын
What interface is that?
@MistrBlistr
@MistrBlistr 4 ай бұрын
I watched this whole video from beginning to end while wearing headphones and using a spectrum analyzer and I heard nor saw any differences in frequency or tone.
@horriblemind
@horriblemind Жыл бұрын
Is that MOTU Track 16 on the desk?
@jordanmiles106
@jordanmiles106 Жыл бұрын
Where do I get this shirt
@danemusic5242
@danemusic5242 Жыл бұрын
after finding out my ozone 8 vst wasnt compatible with my os update I thought wow that really sucks i bearly bought it 3 years ago for what i thought was a high price for a vst, after a to b without ozone i really feel stupid for using ozone on so many tracks all i needed to do was balance faders and i had much more dynamics and less saturation oh well somtimes i have to learn the hard way .
@docteurgreene
@docteurgreene Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately KZbin's compression killed me. I used a good headphone to watch this video but I almost hear no differences between the "before and after" comparisons :( Is it possible for a next video to go deeper in how to select the crossover points for multiband comp or exciter? I still don't understand this part very well....
@davidasher22
@davidasher22 Жыл бұрын
There’s a feature on all the multiband processors that selects the best crossover points for you. But from what I have come to understand, to do this manually you should be trying to find where the energy distribution changes significantly. I usually start with something similar to how Tonal Balance divides the frequency spectrum. And then related to how the program material sounds while being effected by the processor I’ll change it accordingly by ear.
@itwontstopprods
@itwontstopprods Жыл бұрын
Agree, a lot of the differences are very, very subtle even on great headphones and video playback on 4K
@united100
@united100 Жыл бұрын
which Audeze headphones are you using?
@guillaumetiger-isothesis5791
@guillaumetiger-isothesis5791 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the LCD-MX4
@thesoulbelow7324
@thesoulbelow7324 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna know where he gets hot amazing cat tshirts🙀
@atta1798
@atta1798 Жыл бұрын
Ok what is enough headroom and how do you know it is an artifact?
@stallmak8
@stallmak8 Жыл бұрын
Enough headroom can typically be around -4 db. which is the variable between the highest peaks and the digital ceiling which is 0 db. Artifacts are sounds that are not natively part of the music. Unlike harmonic distortion, artifacts are usually subtle noises that are off key in the mix, artifacts are mostly created by a lack of processing power, or a sampling rate that is too low.
@Faithaven
@Faithaven Жыл бұрын
So want to see you master a rock mix
@iZotopeOfficial
@iZotopeOfficial Жыл бұрын
👀
@Bxndoben
@Bxndoben Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t help but notice that all the frequencies you attenuated when adjusting the tone were out of key notes, considering the songs key is A♭ Minor . NOTED
@Walid.OnTheTrack6725
@Walid.OnTheTrack6725 7 ай бұрын
5:56 Be my father
@brexistentialism7628
@brexistentialism7628 Жыл бұрын
Here is a great guy who is great at using great software to validate what he's hearing 😬 He's not really demonstrating a mastering approach.
@IWOKEAGIANT
@IWOKEAGIANT Жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Usually the music is great, but this song is SO boring and uninspiring I can't stand it 😅
@schulze007ify
@schulze007ify Жыл бұрын
Keep it simple and forwards and cut all the crap
@alexanderkastaniotis4097
@alexanderkastaniotis4097 Ай бұрын
That will sound so dated in ten years..
@Kovapele
@Kovapele 2 ай бұрын
Fun and useful! Thanks!
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