Step In Bindings Comparison: Nideker vs. Flow vs. Burton

[@Xerecy]

1 month nidecker owner. They are so much more universal and versatile than any of the competition: easy to get in and out, can do this with snow in the bindings - they just work, in deep powder or knees down - just unstrap the classic way. Love them )

[@gboates]

and they provide a backup for exiting when in tree wells etc

[@nialldoyle8206]

Had the flows. The pin popped out of the back lever. Nearly caused an accident. Switched to Burton. Love em. Super responsive.

[@gx4371]

I have the flow. For what I can attest to is that they are super nice. Easy to get in and out of with the lock on the high back. Not sure about trusting the Burton step on. No strap. As a bigger guy it's awesome to not have to bend down all the way to lock in and unlock. If you hate bending all the way down to do that. Get a pair of Flow's you'll be glad you did. I believe they're superior to the Nidecker as well. Won't tear your boots up and easier functionality. Hope this helps some of you.

[@DeterminedBeast]

good comment, but just want to clarify that Nidecker makes both the supermatic and the flow bindings.

[@redux_dt]

Had the flow, they messed up my 32 boots on the backside from forcing the highback up but they are pretty nice. Thinking about going with Nideker next but loving my district pros now.

[@perro0076]

Yeees. We had exactly the name issue with K2 boots. Not even duct tape could fix it!! Brilliant boot, super rubbish binding. We jumped over to K2 Cinch.

[@TheCiardellas]

Tried the step ons once I thought they were awesome Haven’t tried the others but I’m thinking about trying the nideckers because I like my regular boots

[@damianoceruti8628]

Io uso flow da 20 anni e sono il top Piedi incollati alla tavola molto di più che con i classici

[@chasintheline3185]

Just started using nideckers. Once they were adjusted just right(looser than your normal binding) they worked great at the resort. In powder they had issues locking if you got snow under the heel or on your boot or if the spot where the pin slides gets icy they won't lock. So great for average resort riding, not so great for powder. But worse case you just strap em like a normal binding

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

I would add thei Clicker X HB to the mix as well. I haven't tried the new ones but I rode the original Clickers for 19 years and loved them.

[@sn0kite]

I've been riding my Clicker for 20+ years, amazingly solid, and light. I don't use the HB version, as a result, by board has a really thin profile, without all that binding stuff on it.

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

​@@sn0kitei wish i could still ride the old ones but it's next to impossible to find used size 13 boots. The bindings I had were mint condition when I gifted them. My 19 year old boots are what needed replacing. I'm trying the Supermatics this year.

[@sn0kite]

@@WC3isBetterThanReforgedyes, the boots are hard to find. I did find a brand new pair (size 9) about 4 years ago on e-Bay, seems like there was a re-release of the tech around then. It's still amazing to me that people talk about 200 plates, and 500 bindings. My clicker bindings were $20 / pair, and boots were $50 (~2019)

[@THEH0FF69]

I bought into flow last season with Fuse carbons hybrid strap. it was the set and forget feature i wanted giving more comfort. I was defiantly a strap it down tight guy for 25 years and needed to crack the habit. Flows work well and are comfortable although the highback is very stiff so toe to heel response is amazing but had more lateral flex that i was used too. Sticking with the flows again this season as I think the Supermatics and Clews need more development. Id like to see more damping in the Clews and a smaller contact baseplate. The concept looks great but too early in their development for me to commit to buying them. could be amazing in a few years Supermatics look great, close to flows with the amazing straps but no one talks about the roller on the highback destroying the back of your boots.. also they cant be cracked down if you want to get out quickly. ill wait for v3 Burton step ons need tested for me.. i hear that are super responsive. hopefully ill get to try soon.

[@IEHD01]

Would you recommend Flow Fuse for park?

[@THEH0FF69]

Fuse would be ok for park. The carbon ones are probably too stiff for park riders. I’m more of a free rider with an odd lap of the park

[@lucgg5813]

I Ve been riding step on for 2 years after more than 20 years of regular bidings ( tried flow and Supermatic recently ). Don’t tried Clew! First moment with step on was magic: light, hyper responsive ( i ride hard with custom X )… i m totally in love of these bidings and specialy in powder… best choice ever ( sorry for the language, i’m french 😂 )

[@tysonkaminska7064]

@@lucgg5813what are you riding now? Thoughts on the supermatic? Have they damaged your boot?

[@ReinLable]

​@@IEHD01those or NX2 TM Hybrid

[@timeflex]

Any words for the CLEW or GNU Freedom bindings?

[@VanGtfogh]

Love the nideckers

[@Letsgo44444]

She's adorable 😂

[@everspader]

How could you invert the left and right flow bindings lol

[@frederikdecoene8860]

Raven fastec bindings are also really good. Same système as the Flow, but cheaper.

[@rohanb79]

Had flow flit me bindings, they were quick but had problems taking off the latch would be so tight that it needed lots of strength if you had it set to lean forward. Also snow build underneath caised issies sometimes. The Nidecker superlative are way better just got a pair and they are more responsive and speedways to put in with no hands needed to latch and easy to take of with a push of a switch. Go for nidecker forget Burton they don’t have top straps for that foot rotation translation to bindings they are all edge rotation based.

[@raulharo7517]

The NiDecker sucks the release lever gets stuck after her a few runs in the snow and I always have to end up using them like normal bindings iMessage the company and they said I have to have my heel pressed all the way back, but that still doesn’t solve my problem completely, and I still often times find myself using them as normal bindings instead of how they were ment

[@raulharo7517]

Not to mention how hard it is to step in if you have the bindings on tight

[@jon.e19]

Yup same issue. I have to loosen bindings before stepping in every time, then tightening every time. So essential using a standard binding

[@neilp7024]

I have rode with flows nxt and also sp fastec core....both good bindings but the sp fastec is the better of the two.....i have now moved over to the supermatic,they are expensive but are they worth it....good question i will let you know after i have used them if march this year...the reviews are very good once they are set up right !!

[@NatGreenOnline]

I've ridden Flows for decades and love them but am interested to try the Supermatics for sure.

[@Leo-pd8ww]

If you have plantar fasciitis, don't get bindings that cover the top of your feet. They'll force the arch of your feet to flatten which is excruciatingly painful.

[@perro0076]

First, get yourself Birkenstock sandals and literally live in them for about a year. Then get boot sole inserts that mould to your feet.

[@JordanDeBuck]

Dude last time i went i thought i actually had to stop snowboarding every minute it was sore couldnt even do super short runs, then i losened my boots big time and flow bindings big time relearned to board for a minute being sooo loose with like insane heel lift, then i could atleast last 5 minutes. Now i got a onewheel to try to train and toughen my feet, planters fascia sucks!

[@winger0608]

Recommand on Clew

[@Daz555Daz]

This is not a knock on the Burton system but wow those blue bindings are ugly. They look like a binding from Toys R Us.

[@christianfriedrichs]

Which I do appreciate

[@125conman]

My friend has them in black. They look much better

[@nathanyellll]

Daz has an opinion and that’s fair. BUT I think they’d look alright on some setups. The world is big once you see if differently.

[@bfranco1519]

Just the color, they actually work well.

[@biisenbayev]

I bought high end flow, carbon fiber, and its not that easy to slide in :((

[@jon.e19]

I have the flow nx tm hybrid and same problem. I have to open straps every time to slide in. So essentially a standard binding not very step in

[@tobiasullmann1648]

hi, what kind of black Burton snowboard is that. Please name and link where you can buy it. mfg

[@bossie006]

Hometown hero

[@Dallasrebar]

I have the Burton StepOn bindings and it’s not as easy as it looks. If there’s any snow on the pad, the boots will have a very hard time clicking. I put my entire 170 lbs on it and it won’t make that 3rd click.

[@kaskar]

Yes. If you can’t be bothered to sweeping your hand through the footbed you will have that issue. Just like a bunch of snow under your foot isn’t a heap Of joy in a regular binding And, there’s only two clicks so no wonder you have a hard time getting a third

[@matejlaskomulej]

Agreed about the sweeping. There are three clicks though. One in the back, two in the front

[@F1derful.]

@@kaskarthere are three clicks not two. One at the back and two in front on each side. You are wrong.

[@vvdd903]

who here think step on the best of the three?

[@cigar3tte]

I was able to get into my Step Ons faster than my friend in his Supermatics, but he had new boots already so didn't go with Step Ons

[@matejlaskomulej]

Aye

[@SimonfromAus]

Great for your average punter, but not one single pro anywhere, uses these style bindings ever.

[@perro0076]

Very true, but it applies to everything. How many people all day, every day go out and board like a pro?? Don't waste your money on top level stuff. If you're a pro, fair enough, knock yourself out. I've been using Burton for yeeeeeeears and believe me, you're simply not flat out all that often.

[@vaudou74]

back in entries don t need special boots to work, that's the problem with burton. i wouldn t be able to give my board to a friend for a test or a day.... the supermatic are nice but i have to say that the lever to release is very low (not everyone is under 30y old) compared to to the flow/K2/regular back in bindings release lever

[@staz2755]

Hi, which one would you recommend? Nidecker or Flow?

[@117gilgamesh]

Nideckers are a little harder to get out of, heavier, have a bigger dead spot, less dampening/shock absorption and are more expensive. You can get in the Nideckers easier.

[@josephyang3260]

Nidecker owns flow

[@perro0076]

K2

[@perro0076]

Heeee?!?! What about K2?? All that is assuming the boot is clear from snow.

[@bigeclipse718]

I think clew is the best of both worlds. Use the stepin function when going to lift, but then un-strap when going inside or deep powder.

[@Matthew-.-]

I was looking at those but both the Clew and Burton seem like they'd be difficult to get into on a slope.

[@bvandermeersch]

Clew are straight garbage. Poor quality. Rental style straps. Id stay far away.

[@bigeclipse718]

​@@bvandermeerschclearly you haven't ridden them

[@Ryy22]

@@bvandermeerschThey ride amazing and are very easy to use. Have them for over a year now with around 25 days and very happy. Only criticism i have is the plasticy feel, build quality could be better, but i haven’t heard any of them breaking loose, except for a toestrap here and there

[@bvandermeersch]

So you agree. Poor Quality.@@Ryy22

[@qp4367]

Schwiggle forward😂

[@Seijikom]

Red Wood City whaa??

[@codybythesea]

You installed the Flow NX2 wrong, the left and right bindings are swapped…. Come on Sportsbasement, you are better than this

[@chatwithaninja]

No Clew? Another good step in option

[@luuxii]

It is trash by all measures

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

Rear entry is not step in. Also, one of the worst flaws of rear entry is that it can destroy your boot, because when you strap out, the highback pulls the sole from the boot. Step on are crap. Let alone the split version. Forget about hiking with those boots, and good luck with trying to use crampons for those boots. Of course, I bet they'll launch step on crampons too 😂. Supermatic is the way so far. You can use the boot that you want without plastic BS thingies that can deteriorate and be dangerous, and you can use them as regular straps bindings if you want. The compatibility issue alone is enough for me. And don't even try that sht of "oh, but there are other brands that are making step on boots too!". Yeah... no fck that sht.

[@abarrick09]

These people don't have a Clew, no really where is Clew in this comparison??

[@codybythesea]

Given Sports Basement is a California based brick-and-mortar store, and Clew is not sold anywhere physically in California, I doubt SB will do a review on them without their sponsorship.

[@MTB_DREAM]

"NERD ALERT" lol

[@alane1000]

Is she single?

[@raiderfan2010]

Brotha starvin in the bindings step in video 😂😂😂

[@Fjordo11]

The Nidecker is sooo kook town.

[@bet]

How? They are pretty sweet, and I’m a park guy

[@Daz555Daz]

Given that Nidecker own Flow I have to say the Supermatics make the Flow system look a little primitive - and yes I know the system works well and tons of riders love the bindings. Hopefully Nidecker won't discontinue Flow and continue to develop it for the fans of that system.

[@bet]

@@Daz555Daz just tried my out at mammoth today. Once your clicked in its just like a traditional binding. Loved it. There’s definitely some things to get used to but worth the trade off. 2 things off the bat is if you pants get cover the high back you won’t be able to get out because it won’t flip back, and second, the placement of the release lever makes getting off the chair lift weird because you can’t put ur but snug next to the binding. Other than that it’s solid and worth the money.

[@Daz555Daz]

@@bet good review!

[@bfranco1519]

Flow bindings suck…