Stephen A. gets heated over Max doubting that Carmelo would have rings with the Pistons | First Take

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Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Jay Williams weigh in on Carmelo Anthony's claim on an Instagram Live chat with Dwyane Wade that he would have multiple championship rings if he was drafted by the Detroit Pistons over the Denver Nuggets.
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@stevejobs8751
@stevejobs8751 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not wearing any pants and here's why." - Stephen A
@dreamteam9800
@dreamteam9800 4 жыл бұрын
what?
@Ldmendez
@Ldmendez 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA
@landonp8531
@landonp8531 4 жыл бұрын
Max:I don't care that you aren't wearing any pants Stephen A: Here's why you are wrong
@romandavidovich754
@romandavidovich754 4 жыл бұрын
This won the internet for me today lol
@malacefromthepalace5657
@malacefromthepalace5657 4 жыл бұрын
He got an explanation for everything 😑😆
@moorstring
@moorstring 4 жыл бұрын
The bottom line is: There is nothing to watch sportswise on TV.
@Blackwaifus
@Blackwaifus 4 жыл бұрын
U need 1 million likes for this one
@SocraticMind89
@SocraticMind89 4 жыл бұрын
Big faccs
@AysarAburrub
@AysarAburrub 4 жыл бұрын
truer words were never spoken
@cliffishot2def
@cliffishot2def 4 жыл бұрын
Lol when all they do is talking about Lebron people say, "oh boy they can't stop talking about Lebron. When they dont talk about Lebron people say, "they really have nothing else to talk about ". Lol.
@Flowerz__
@Flowerz__ 4 жыл бұрын
I like watching the old games n stuff actually
@BrejetyKirby
@BrejetyKirby 4 жыл бұрын
I rarely feel bad for max, but when Stephen a ALWAYS disses him and says he doesn’t know basketball, I hurt for him a little bit cause that’s got to get old hearing it over and over again.
@GotmerKed
@GotmerKed 4 жыл бұрын
Max should reply that Stephen A ONLY knows basketball. Sometimes its joke when you hear him talk about football and baseball.
@grizz7167
@grizz7167 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen A doesn’t know basketball as much as he thinks he does
@prestonwingate7836
@prestonwingate7836 4 жыл бұрын
Lol that’s cause he is always wrong Max flip flop more than any analyst on TV. He be trying to make these dumb arguments using words he think people can’t understand to make his point sound good. Just like the Tom Brady cliff theory lol. Brady done got two rings since then, and watch what he do with Tampa!
@adultadventures1597
@adultadventures1597 4 жыл бұрын
SAS really thinks he's smarter than white max 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@jacksonbryant3325
@jacksonbryant3325 4 жыл бұрын
john He is I mean look at the net worth when SAS was max age. As a black man you have to be really smart
@drainmei5404
@drainmei5404 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen “THEY WERE IN A CLUB” A Smith.
@josefermin6161
@josefermin6161 4 жыл бұрын
Were they in a club? Lol
@jeremiahdavis3398
@jeremiahdavis3398 4 жыл бұрын
schemerboi 😂
@ililiilili3366
@ililiilili3366 4 жыл бұрын
go go go charlie....
@IG_Playglenthomas
@IG_Playglenthomas 4 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@avigdorbenhaim2551
@avigdorbenhaim2551 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🎅🏿
@TreyLeday
@TreyLeday 4 жыл бұрын
“Hold on I’m givin you knowledge; fall back!” -Stephen A. Smith 2020
@clarencesmith467
@clarencesmith467 4 жыл бұрын
Savage 🤣🤣
@BlessedOne686
@BlessedOne686 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@TheLildude47
@TheLildude47 4 жыл бұрын
Entertaining but put respect on Max , your coworker
@ALYoungFuture13
@ALYoungFuture13 4 жыл бұрын
We The Brothas, Gnna have To Use This All 2020 !
@viilord2679
@viilord2679 4 жыл бұрын
That was disrespectful tbh
@yayah22
@yayah22 4 жыл бұрын
Max: There were people who maybe hypothetically considered and thought is it possible Melo could potentially have gone first in the 2003-2004 draft before LeBron?! Stephen A: I just received a text from my sources regarding your sources that back in the day, they were high at the time.
@micolockett252
@micolockett252 4 жыл бұрын
yayah22 🗣 STAY OFF THE WEEEEEEED !!!!!
@MrDangelo7777
@MrDangelo7777 4 жыл бұрын
@Quentin Coberley THANKS ! they scrut Melo.
@kc1hotboy
@kc1hotboy 4 жыл бұрын
yayah22 Lmmfao
@Geeandrezzi
@Geeandrezzi 4 жыл бұрын
Quentin Coberley slight reach.......... 🧢
@shakadeveaux6851
@shakadeveaux6851 4 жыл бұрын
@Quentin Coberley I always said tht an ppl countered melo had the better team
@prophetfromthex
@prophetfromthex 4 жыл бұрын
Also when Melo was 3rd in MVP and had 54 wins with NY, Rasheed Wallace was on that team.
@realniggashit3
@realniggashit3 4 жыл бұрын
Counterpoint: When the Nuggets won 57 games, it was with Ty Lawson and Andre Miller. Melo and Billups were both gone.
@scatpackty5936
@scatpackty5936 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Melo is not LeBron. Melo needs a leader, he was never a leader.
@prophetfromthex
@prophetfromthex 4 жыл бұрын
America First Productions no wonder it was a first round exit. They also had iggy and them boys, had a better team than when Melo was there. Had the nuggets had that 2013 team with Melo, that would’ve been a finals appearance for melo
@realniggashit3
@realniggashit3 4 жыл бұрын
​@@prophetfromthex Doubt it. West was stacked. Melo and Billups would've also lost in the 1st or 2nd round if they didn't get lucky with seeding. They had the 2nd seed despite the same record as Spurs and Blazers and only 1 more win than 5th seed Rockets. And then Mavs did them a favor by upsetting Spurs in the 1st round. Spurs would've been a matchup nightmare for Denver. Denver was never a legit championship contender at any point.
@prophetfromthex
@prophetfromthex 4 жыл бұрын
America First Productions May be true but Melo never had true help. Bron did Bron things in the east. Went to LA which was a decent team and couldn’t make the playoffs. Yes injuries were a factor but the year after gets AD and help. Melo stood in NY and the best he got was JR. Melo needed another guy in 2013. They beat Miami 3-1 in the regular season. Had it not been for Tyson being injured, they would’ve beaten Indiana. A lot of should’ve could’ve would’ve but one thing for certain is Melo being a leader. Just needed another star to mesh with him. Amare wasn’t it, and the A.I/ Melo duo was short lived...
@miguellafortune
@miguellafortune 4 жыл бұрын
DET was team first mentality. I can understand why some would doubt a young melo would have trouble fitting in that system but honestly I think he would be just fine. Vets like sheed and Big Ben will make sure melo knows his role 😂
@lysanias876
@lysanias876 4 жыл бұрын
ShowTimeGaming thank u bro 🙏🏽
@he8500
@he8500 4 жыл бұрын
Melo said he was immature and an egotistical person at the time so I don't think he'd have brought into being a defensive worker to, he just wanted to stat pad and put up good numbers being a leading scorer, bj
@miguellafortune
@miguellafortune 4 жыл бұрын
H E true but with vets like Billiups and Big Ben and Larry Brown who dealt with a player very similar like Melo in AI, I think they could make it work
@JoeBro915
@JoeBro915 4 жыл бұрын
H E you can’t get away with that as a rookie no matter how talented you are. That squad would have checked him if he was shooting too much or not enough effort on D
@loumoney1018
@loumoney1018 4 жыл бұрын
FAXX!!!
@mr.devindavis4353
@mr.devindavis4353 4 жыл бұрын
Max look like he want to shed a tear
@bornagain22
@bornagain22 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. KnowitALL deadasss😂
@victorpetrescu6586
@victorpetrescu6586 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, I'd be annoyed too if someone who is routinely giving idiotic takes acting like he's some basketball genius. I like Stephen A Smith, but he's downright delusional sometimes.
@underdawgapparel
@underdawgapparel 4 жыл бұрын
Pistons with Melo instead of darko would’ve won a couple chips. Period
@Dnizzle227
@Dnizzle227 3 жыл бұрын
Point Blank
@jonjohnson1978.
@jonjohnson1978. 2 жыл бұрын
Pistons were about teamwork and hustle...melo would of disrupted that
@underdawgapparel
@underdawgapparel 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonjohnson1978. you become your environment or what you see on the daily. Melo would’ve had no choice but to adapt
@Dnizzle227
@Dnizzle227 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonjohnson1978. glad we got a psychic to tell us the other possibilities of what melo would of done....stfu
@jonjohnson1978.
@jonjohnson1978. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dnizzle227 no
@need-em
@need-em 4 жыл бұрын
I'M GIVING YOU KNOWLEDGE, FALL BACK💀
@jayjoe77
@jayjoe77 4 жыл бұрын
Need Em that hit hard 😂😂
@ThreadStoppa
@ThreadStoppa 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Anthonycheesman33
@Anthonycheesman33 4 жыл бұрын
Yea the guy whose been wrong the last 7 finals lol
@HustleMan31
@HustleMan31 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😭😭😭😭🤷🏾‍♂️
@fredygrijalva1359
@fredygrijalva1359 4 жыл бұрын
I would tell him that when he talks mma, boxing, or baseball
@Sephiroth766
@Sephiroth766 4 жыл бұрын
Fair point to make is that Larry Brown already dealt with Allen Iverson so I can bet he could have dealt fine with Carmelo
@raymondbembridge5319
@raymondbembridge5319 4 жыл бұрын
He didnt win the chip with A.I though but I get your point
@daswolio3204
@daswolio3204 4 жыл бұрын
Sephiroth766 different circumstances. He built an entire style of play and roster around AI. What made the ‘04 Pistons so great was their grit and grind, defense, and chemistry. Throwing in a shot chucking, ball stopping, poor defender seems problematic
@dannydaphantom2362
@dannydaphantom2362 4 жыл бұрын
DaSwolio U dint kno anything about ball bro
@daswolio3204
@daswolio3204 4 жыл бұрын
Danny K you don’t know English bro
@daswolio3204
@daswolio3204 4 жыл бұрын
kiyan west says a guy who doesn’t even provide a rebuttal lmaooo
@chrisbalseiro1505
@chrisbalseiro1505 4 жыл бұрын
Jay said “ I seen Anthony play defense ...in high schoool.” 😂 bruh
@markdemesa8322
@markdemesa8322 4 жыл бұрын
Molly isn't here yet I'm still telling her in my mind to be quiet. LMFAO.
@ash80510
@ash80510 4 жыл бұрын
We so used to saying it every single day, it's now second nature
@versacebattle677
@versacebattle677 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao facts.
@gameruprising4364
@gameruprising4364 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin toxic
@borood1188
@borood1188 4 жыл бұрын
'04 Pistons won in his rookie year, so that's one automatically. '05 they went 7 with SA in a very low scoring series that could have gone either way. Melo definitely could have made the difference in that one. '06 lost to Miami, again needed some scoring punch. '07 lost Ben Wallace, so it's doubtful they would have beaten SA without him. By '08 they were finished. So one for sure, two very strong possibility and maybe three, but also Larry Brown left after '05.
@knoda2603
@knoda2603 4 жыл бұрын
Bo Rood your comment describes the situation very good
@phinaddict4857
@phinaddict4857 4 жыл бұрын
so your saying this pistons team coulda been a dynasty with melo. i still dont understand how they stopped big diesel and black mamba in 04.
@Doatello1991
@Doatello1991 4 жыл бұрын
@Andres Torres Kobe got locked up by Tayshaun Prince. Shaq was fat and out of shape. He was still an offensive juggernaut but his numbers were nothing like his performances from the Lakers’ 3-peat. Got to give credit to Ben Wallace and the Pistons’ bigs for wearing down Shaq even though he make 60% of his attempts for the series. Ben Wallace was able to force key turnovers from Shaq.
@yvans.
@yvans. 4 жыл бұрын
Doatello1991 bro shaq destroyed Ben Wallace in 04 out of shape or not 😂 Kobe was the one who killed the Lakers
@basketballgod2791
@basketballgod2791 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is though Carmelo was such a Beat scoring-wise and rebounding that I think it was easily two or three rings I mean with the amount of Defense they would have put around Carmelo that would have been ridiculous
@gamingharness15
@gamingharness15 4 жыл бұрын
“HOLD ON I’m giving you knowledge , FALL BACK” 🤣🤣🤣 I gotta start using that lmao
@Wodz30
@Wodz30 3 жыл бұрын
I watched those Pistons teams and I watched them carry the trophy. Truly incredible. I will never forget witnessing history like that.
@balleralert3470
@balleralert3470 4 жыл бұрын
yall are screaming about something melo said so calmly
@jleww8959
@jleww8959 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta get them views
@Shiv23
@Shiv23 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it’s just Stephan a
@JewelAhmed3
@JewelAhmed3 4 жыл бұрын
Melo was a prospect. Winning NCAA and being the most outstanding player in the tournament. All the ingredients to be a championship winning player. I think Melo with a group of vets teaching him the game. He would transcend him self to a top player.
@BILLADO
@BILLADO 4 жыл бұрын
Max has a way of twisting the questions when he peep he messed up 🤣🤣
@machomunkey482
@machomunkey482 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Max’s face every time he’s getting Schooled is hilarious
@damarimoland1613
@damarimoland1613 4 жыл бұрын
Macho Munkey 💀
@zack7569
@zack7569 4 жыл бұрын
No he was making that face because Stephan a. is annoying
@mkadoza
@mkadoza 4 жыл бұрын
@@zack7569 Was Stephen A wrong tho? Jay Williams was also lookin at Max crazy for that take.
@machomunkey482
@machomunkey482 4 жыл бұрын
Goodnight Gaming you sound mad 😢
@zack7569
@zack7569 4 жыл бұрын
Macho Munkey I’m not mad I just feel bad for max sometimes
@AttuideAdjuster101
@AttuideAdjuster101 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m giving you knowledge. Fall back” 😭‼️I cant wait to have kids so I can use that
@DenizCDemir
@DenizCDemir 4 жыл бұрын
Max said nothing wrong. His Indiana point was not wack. He wasn't even forcing it. He just said he would have doubts to whether or not the Pacers would have exploited the defensive liability the is 'Melo. The series already went 7 games as it is. Small things make a difference in series this close.
@tobyhawthorne9150
@tobyhawthorne9150 4 жыл бұрын
“If you add a great player it doesn’t necessarily make you a better team” end debate max is correct. Ya’ll never heard of the chaos theory?
@luny2nez281
@luny2nez281 4 жыл бұрын
Carmelo is a rookie. How much can a rookie scoring machine do to make a team worse? Carmelo wouldve been coming off the bench anyways
@jordanndombe4537
@jordanndombe4537 4 жыл бұрын
But you adding a rookie not an all star who gonna demand things. That's a kid coming on a great team he can only listen
@ganzvv3726
@ganzvv3726 4 жыл бұрын
Plus the pistons themselves said that they wouldn’t have won a ring that year anyway. Why? Because they also understand the power of team play. As a pistons fan I’ll tell u that melo wouldn’t have made any difference because we had all of the tools and the opportunity to get that other chip. We all said the same thing when melo joined the thunder and we’ve seen how that turned out.
@jow8480
@jow8480 4 жыл бұрын
@@ganzvv3726 melo joining okc wasn't the best example as melo had arguably already gone past his peak form like stephen a smith said melo left it way too late to leave the knicks
@ALYoungFuture13
@ALYoungFuture13 4 жыл бұрын
European Nonsense Theories
@rememberme7056
@rememberme7056 4 жыл бұрын
Leadership according to Stephen a Smith: Point your finger to the exit in a crowded night club.
@stevenbnd
@stevenbnd 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Lol
@claudelafortune8363
@claudelafortune8363 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@STACKzCOMEDY
@STACKzCOMEDY 4 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@willdill4987
@willdill4987 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a weird point
@sports3117
@sports3117 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen A. is keeping ESPN afloat during the time of crisis
@Ronbon
@Ronbon 4 жыл бұрын
Sports 311 he would keep them afloat regardless of what’s happening
@joelnjabo5820
@joelnjabo5820 4 жыл бұрын
He keeps them afloat in normal conditions.
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 4 жыл бұрын
A Pistons team with Richard Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, Rasheed Wallace, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Wallace and Carmelo Anthony would win TWO NBA Finals.
@Myleslambeth
@Myleslambeth 4 жыл бұрын
Scruff D0g minimum!!!
@Geeandrezzi
@Geeandrezzi 4 жыл бұрын
Myles Lambeth different dynamics, can’t just assume that...
@trysephiroth007
@trysephiroth007 4 жыл бұрын
Who's knows if they would have even got Sheed if they drafted Mello. They traded for Sheed because Darko wasn't playing like a number two pick.
@Loganbub
@Loganbub 4 жыл бұрын
Troy Moore ok but either way they still needed a big and would of absolutely traded for Sheed regardless of if they had Melo or Darko
@Geeandrezzi
@Geeandrezzi 4 жыл бұрын
Pouch King the blazers could’ve asked for a different return in the trade. They could’ve wanted tayshaun included in the trade. Which would have made that team WAYYY different defensively......
@lamonteaton3490
@lamonteaton3490 4 жыл бұрын
Carmelo would have won with them if he stayed in locker room.
@bornagain22
@bornagain22 4 жыл бұрын
Lamont Eaton deaddddd
@richb7338
@richb7338 4 жыл бұрын
Lamont Eaton 👀🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️
@nhlakaniphoevacueezitha5977
@nhlakaniphoevacueezitha5977 4 жыл бұрын
Cold😂
@LILCHAIN24
@LILCHAIN24 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@mrmaninred22
@mrmaninred22 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the only way it works. Putting him on the team and not like him disrupt what they already had going on.
@kamenshepard1110
@kamenshepard1110 4 жыл бұрын
“They were in a club, they were in a club, they were in a club.. wait hol up they were in a club”.
@derrick5112
@derrick5112 4 жыл бұрын
The Lazy Gator 🤣🤣🤣
@lifeinthenight8613
@lifeinthenight8613 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen A always saying Max doesn't know basketball, but he's the same dude that changes his 'best player in the world' every other day lol! You're not any better Stephen A!!
@thomasross7201
@thomasross7201 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen A gets so much factually incorrect, so often that it's laughable for him to suggest that he's educating anyone on anything.
@dDddddddddddddhhh
@dDddddddddddddhhh 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Ross John Salley said Carmelo should have gone no.1 on Vlad TV recently but Stephen A knows every ‘officando’ in basketball so I probably imagined that Vlad TV interview.
@FierySpiritMaury
@FierySpiritMaury 4 жыл бұрын
“He Maybe gets one” like upgrading darko with melo jeopardizes that 2004 chip
@mattlarghi
@mattlarghi 4 жыл бұрын
tayshaun prince locked down kobe melo wouldve let kobe get 30 every game. Does rookie melo score enough to make up the difference? Unless you're saying rookie melo could've come off the bench for 2004 Detroit, which fine, I guess he could've won a title as a bench guy
@KimarKurosaski
@KimarKurosaski 4 жыл бұрын
Camari they probably don’t get Rasheed Wallace who everyone in this comment section pretends was already on the team and not a midseason pickup. Without Melo there they probably don’t pick him up and no Sheed = no rings period.
@tli7657
@tli7657 4 жыл бұрын
@kiyan west exactly I hate when folks try and be cute with obvious, common sense arguments. Cool, Prince shut down Kobe but he gave them 10 ppg. Pistons as a whole were a defensive juggernaut, inserting a 20ppg scorer in Melo wouldn't make them worse.
@LILCHAIN24
@LILCHAIN24 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao exactly
@patjenkins1308
@patjenkins1308 4 жыл бұрын
@kiyan west maybe they would not have the money to get him midseason if Melo is there already
@patrykgadek5503
@patrykgadek5503 4 жыл бұрын
"You see Max you see this is why I have difficult time listening to you with basketball sometimes" Stephen A. straight away
@bron3376
@bron3376 4 жыл бұрын
Patryk Gadek I laughed 😂😂😂
@darkkiwi6312
@darkkiwi6312 4 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO just realised bro im laughng
@lysanias876
@lysanias876 4 жыл бұрын
Max is only playing devil’s advocate. We all clearly know Melo would’ve had a few chips if Melo started in Detroit
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 4 жыл бұрын
But he didnt.He didnt win
@olofacosta3192
@olofacosta3192 4 жыл бұрын
@@erikpuka2627did you read the comment?
@KantGetRightProd
@KantGetRightProd 4 жыл бұрын
Love the passion Gents! Very refreshing to see great basketball minds RESPECTFULLY disagree and do it bringing smiles to one another faces!. Appreciate the blessing.
@Laurent_08
@Laurent_08 4 жыл бұрын
Max is fully right. The Pistons were great because of their identity, they were tough, they were sometimes mean, they defended every second, they were a true "team", they had no individual ego, Melo would not have been a good fit at all. And by the way, Melo wouldn't have accepted to start on the bench, no way.
@playahdub5287
@playahdub5287 4 жыл бұрын
As a rookie he had no Choice
@jordanndombe4537
@jordanndombe4537 4 жыл бұрын
They not talking about all star melo but an 18yr old rookie coming to a great team. He could only listen to them
@blaccpanther8715
@blaccpanther8715 4 жыл бұрын
No 18 year old is coming into the NBA and refusing to play off the bench. Also Melp was never a bad defender, he just wasnt a good defender. Like they said, in that system he merely needs to be serviceable. It's a better fit than Melo going to a team with bad defense lol
@Laurent_08
@Laurent_08 4 жыл бұрын
@@blaccpanther8715 Melo was a NCAA superstar, with already a huge ego, no he wouldn't have accepted to start on the bench.
@Laurent_08
@Laurent_08 4 жыл бұрын
@@playahdub5287 You have the choice to be unhappy about it and let everybody know you're unhappy...Melo was a superstar coming into the draft, no way he would have accepted to not being a starter.
@8ElliottScott
@8ElliottScott 4 жыл бұрын
“The Tayshaun Princes of the World”
@JohnSmith-wh2ob
@JohnSmith-wh2ob 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Scott and those boys
@zaincasey9203
@zaincasey9203 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to meet them lmao
@8ElliottScott
@8ElliottScott 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob not to mention John Smith, WHO CAN BALL!
@h1xlockz117
@h1xlockz117 4 жыл бұрын
1:05 jay Williams loving this 😂😭
@karanvinod2593
@karanvinod2593 4 жыл бұрын
You know he wants Max's job.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣😋😋
@karanvinod2593
@karanvinod2593 4 жыл бұрын
@Edgar Alvarez more like too stupid.
@lexxluggur5277
@lexxluggur5277 4 жыл бұрын
Stevens A’ s face 3:44 😂😂😂
@you1680
@you1680 4 жыл бұрын
Lexx Luggur jajajajajja
@StormS2N
@StormS2N 4 жыл бұрын
@@you1680 we don't speak that way. Its hahahaha
@stevenbnd
@stevenbnd 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@drainmei5404
@drainmei5404 4 жыл бұрын
Lexx Luggur Look at 1:50 🤣🤣💀
@lalogia2020
@lalogia2020 4 жыл бұрын
Max is absolutely right here, he’s too intelectual...
@southernaviator7010
@southernaviator7010 4 жыл бұрын
Right?! These fools literally do not understand Max. Team chemistry is the most untrackable metric there is. Assuming Melo makes the even the same yet alone better is lazy thinking. One piece that doesnt quite fit can ruin the whole puzzle.
@saintdockery5740
@saintdockery5740 4 жыл бұрын
@@southernaviator7010 Melo took a 17 win nuggets team to 43 wins
@patrickhanlon2325
@patrickhanlon2325 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone from that draft wouldve won a chip if they joined Detroit
@davesims4590
@davesims4590 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@benjacobs2560
@benjacobs2560 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I would’ve won 6 rings if the Bulls drafted me with Michael and Scottie
@joejenkins1827
@joejenkins1827 4 жыл бұрын
People forget they drafted Darko to be a four he bombed so they trade for sheed no telling of that trade happens if melo or bosh gets drafted and neither was the offensive or defensive player sheed was at that time
@patrickhanlon2325
@patrickhanlon2325 4 жыл бұрын
@@joejenkins1827 I actually did forget about that, without sheed there I'm not so high on melo winning with them
@dentonkellyjr8095
@dentonkellyjr8095 4 жыл бұрын
they could have atleast gotten chris kaman who was solid as a center
@3waytrayy444
@3waytrayy444 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh rookie melo was giving starters 20 a game, you bring him of the bench against second stringers?? He probably would've been 6th man of the year easy.
@travelingtheworld8224
@travelingtheworld8224 8 ай бұрын
Ain't no way they start Prince over Melo
@JorgeHernandez-ql7fd
@JorgeHernandez-ql7fd 4 жыл бұрын
Love how Stephen A. Says don’t get me started and proceeds to start😂😂😂
@coltonbeebe8779
@coltonbeebe8779 4 жыл бұрын
First take is giving me at least some sort of entertainment through this tough time. Stephen A can make anything entertaining
@gbbnnrewilli3599
@gbbnnrewilli3599 4 жыл бұрын
Right 🤣🤣🤣
@dvon1097
@dvon1097 4 жыл бұрын
That story of Chauncey at the club tellin everyone to get out is epic
@brianbanks8570
@brianbanks8570 3 жыл бұрын
SAS used to bring this up all the time back in his early days on First take.
@Hadad-ln9ww
@Hadad-ln9ww 4 жыл бұрын
melo stops ball movement. Great scorer, thats all. No rings. Pistons were good cuz of a balanced team off. and def.
@troyduffie3836
@troyduffie3836 4 жыл бұрын
X2 Kings You gotta go watch the last video. Jay talked about ego and understanding of the game getting shaped by your first team. The same is true of melo. He HAD to score in Denver and in NYC.
@BigDilf3
@BigDilf3 4 жыл бұрын
Troy Duffie that’s what people don’t understand melo gets drafted by us he’s already a great scorer they would’ve made him a great defender too
@Hadad-ln9ww
@Hadad-ln9ww 4 жыл бұрын
@@troyduffie3836 Whether you HAD to score or not doesn't dictate whether you play defense or not. They guy has been in the league over 15 years. Sooner or later you evolve into more than a scorer if your a great player.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great Debate. More like these.
@nathanrobertson1223
@nathanrobertson1223 4 жыл бұрын
SAS seems like he feels intellectually threatened by Max sometimes, which is why he gets so easily defensive
@Gunners4life629
@Gunners4life629 4 жыл бұрын
Carmelo doesn't really need a ring to be a Hall of Famer he just has to be great that's all 👍👍🌟🌟 shout out to Carmelo Anthony greatest Denver Nuggets player ever
@davidvidda8515
@davidvidda8515 4 жыл бұрын
Jokic will pass him if he stays healthy
@youtubeburr
@youtubeburr 4 жыл бұрын
David Vidda Key word: if
@bryanroberts5409
@bryanroberts5409 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all had a player by the name of Alex English who was pretty decent...
@mgvocals4058
@mgvocals4058 4 жыл бұрын
Chauncey done more in Denver's than melo
@mgvocals4058
@mgvocals4058 4 жыл бұрын
And he isnt better than david Thompson
@petermarkbuay8573
@petermarkbuay8573 4 жыл бұрын
Max is breaking my heart with his argument... Melo could have been a two way player if was drafted by Detroit... imagine pistons are always in the Finals (04 & 05) and ECF (06,07 & 08)... and they still will not win with Melo? 🤦‍♂️
@derekllp23
@derekllp23 3 жыл бұрын
The question is, did Melo have the mindset to be a two-way player? Most guys who have that defensive mentality don't have to be taught it at the pro level. They just have that dog in them to be a defender. We can't assume he'd just develop that because he'd be on the Pistons.
@domj9446
@domj9446 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao @Max shaking his head no to SAS asking him did you watch the pistons🤣🤣🤣
@BG33917
@BG33917 4 жыл бұрын
Max Kellerman face at the end cracks me up lol
@Bhagos2
@Bhagos2 4 жыл бұрын
If Melo came off the bench he would have won but if he started over Tayshaun I 100% agree with Max
@MugiwaraMattB
@MugiwaraMattB 4 жыл бұрын
But bro the most important detail of this is that Melo was a rookie. No way he’s starting. He would have been a champ and 6th man of the year
@lukebashian5591
@lukebashian5591 4 жыл бұрын
Mugiwara MattB I dunno Melo probably would expect to start
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Hagos they win whether Melo start of come off the bench either way that combo of Melo and Prince would have so worked Melo dropping buckets then prince coming in and shutting down Melo man wearing him down then Melo coming back in putting more pressure on him to stop him
@johndonatien8480
@johndonatien8480 4 жыл бұрын
I think sheed comes off the bench he only played 20 games that season either way they’re winning with melo
@trysephiroth007
@trysephiroth007 4 жыл бұрын
@@MugiwaraMattB Sheed wasn't even on the team then so Mello would be starting and they might not have even traded for Sheed.
@trippy1938
@trippy1938 4 жыл бұрын
This the same dude that said Kawhi has more clutch moments than Kobe😭😭
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam 4 жыл бұрын
I mean he do
@trippy1938
@trippy1938 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShinefortheCam Gimme your ring.
@mrfox5165
@mrfox5165 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm giving you knowledge fall back" 😂😂
@SoulofPimpC
@SoulofPimpC 4 жыл бұрын
When Steven A. told Max to fall back I lost it! lolololololol
@chauncey123mcallister7
@chauncey123mcallister7 4 жыл бұрын
Aye my name is Chauncey, and I like hearing S.A.S saying my name...I feels good 😂
@gusto2954
@gusto2954 4 жыл бұрын
The question is do they make the move for Rasheed, if Carmelo is playing well?
@blackbehemoth6073
@blackbehemoth6073 4 жыл бұрын
Vance Terry very true. If they pull the Rasheed trade without losing much, they would have gone back to back
@mikeselvia9598
@mikeselvia9598 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best teams of an era which had so many stars, even when the coach was changed 3 times almost back to back camps until Duncan took over in the last mins of game 7
@Mrgiftedsoul
@Mrgiftedsoul 4 жыл бұрын
I’m having a hard time deciding what jay Williams looks like more a genius food critic turtle or an uncover black kebler elf
@nothingspecial8114
@nothingspecial8114 4 жыл бұрын
0:28 But yet they always want to bring up Jon Gruden taking over Tony Dungy’s team LOL
@nothingspecial8114
@nothingspecial8114 4 жыл бұрын
darcoman2 Larry Brown was white it not a racism thing Stephen A is just being biased and hypocritical
@jamesloch3023
@jamesloch3023 4 жыл бұрын
Max is struggling to be the heel . But he is smiling throughout. He got lit up and took it well. Love this show
@cjcain2786
@cjcain2786 4 жыл бұрын
Bruhh the intro😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@turbografxx
@turbografxx 4 жыл бұрын
Are they implying that a group of defensive minded players in the pistons wouldn’t influence a rookie Carmelo to become a decent defender???
@scatpackty5936
@scatpackty5936 4 жыл бұрын
Preach!
@saintdockery5740
@saintdockery5740 4 жыл бұрын
He wasnt a bad defend early on epically against in wcf
@marlonthemightysmith7836
@marlonthemightysmith7836 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they say mello don't play d. On that team he wouldn't of had to! Not to mention I seen games in mellos prime where he locked down kobe
@Antygrvity69
@Antygrvity69 4 жыл бұрын
Marlon Smith: What game / games did you see Melo Lock down Kobe? Melo is a stiff defending 4 @ best, guarding an all time great 2 in Kobe is ridiculous.!
@Antygrvity69
@Antygrvity69 4 жыл бұрын
@kiyan west : No need to, I'm old enough to have watched that series when it was actually going on. I'm 49 years old. Melo was not going to be a good fit w/ that Pistons team. That Pistons core group was a very close & special group. What many of you seem to forget is that "w/ the exception of Tysuan Prince", each one of them had either failed on other NBA teams, or had worn our their welcome. They came together & proved everyone wrong.. Melo was coming off an NCAA Championship, felt he should've been # 1 & had a huge ego (understandably so).. That team moved the ball very well & played for each other. The ball stops w/ Melo
@Antygrvity69
@Antygrvity69 4 жыл бұрын
@kiyan west: By the way Kobe averaged 34pts / 5rbs/ & 5.8 assists in that playoff series against the Nuggets, & the Lakers beat them 4 games to 2. Maybe I'm missing something. So Please explain to me how Carmelo Anthony shut Kobe down?
@TheOneKeyToLife
@TheOneKeyToLife 4 жыл бұрын
I turned my phone volume all the way down and still could hear SAS loud and clear 😂💀
@sicwillproductionsllc6217
@sicwillproductionsllc6217 4 жыл бұрын
“ I’m Giving You Knowledge!” 😂
@WavyJazzyBanks
@WavyJazzyBanks 4 жыл бұрын
I always said Melo’s legacy was lost on draft day! They had THE squad in the East for years...with Darco!!!
@CookieGrandson
@CookieGrandson 4 жыл бұрын
Max always got that little smirk when he know he done pissed Stephen A off lol
@dimizoe777
@dimizoe777 4 жыл бұрын
I'm given you knowledge, fall back 😂😂😂
@sharpcheddah9385
@sharpcheddah9385 3 жыл бұрын
I just became a Stephen A Smith fan with him telling max when he tried to interrupt him "fall back, I'm giving you knowledge".
@RatoyaBanks
@RatoyaBanks 4 жыл бұрын
At 1:01 I thought max was gonna cry. Hurt my feelings lol
@NeoMicy
@NeoMicy 4 жыл бұрын
Why do all the hot women live in the USA? xD
@phinaddict4857
@phinaddict4857 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeoMicy noooo not true. all over the world especially in europe theirs lots of hotties. go take a trip to europe or south america and check out dem hotties. bring one home or a couple your preference. its worth your money. I live in Cali so I get to see the hot cali blondes everywhere.
@CalixSteez
@CalixSteez 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Max gotta chill with this one lmao I usually side with him but he’s crazy.
@jamellbrown7315
@jamellbrown7315 4 жыл бұрын
Troubled Boy side with him about what!!!?!!!
@rouzmajlessi1233
@rouzmajlessi1233 4 жыл бұрын
Ppl forget is they probably would have not treated for Rasheed Wallace if they had Carmelo
@EBee_Z
@EBee_Z 4 жыл бұрын
@@rouzmajlessi1233 why not? They play different positions and Carmelo would have probably been an understudy to Tayshon Prince.
@RealestatePape
@RealestatePape 4 жыл бұрын
As a pistons fan We finally got coverage years later they used to hate the pistons we got no tv coverage back then
@dktreee
@dktreee Жыл бұрын
Its the Smirk from Max for me 😂😂😂😂
@Jayherbo23
@Jayherbo23 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m giving you knowledge fall back “ 😂😂
@ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr
@ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr 4 жыл бұрын
Pistons don’t win a ring if they draft Melo, as that likely means Tayshaun Prince off the bench plus they likely don’t even trade for Rasheed Wallace, and Melo was a ball dominant player
@jleww8959
@jleww8959 4 жыл бұрын
Naw .. melo off the bench . Pistons wouldn't Need melo To start , until later on in his Career
@hassanhaulcy
@hassanhaulcy 4 жыл бұрын
Arshdeep Singh THANK YOU PPL SLEEP ON PRINCE’S impact
@jordan12118
@jordan12118 4 жыл бұрын
They would've brought Melo off the bench. Y'all Melo haters something else
@lysanias876
@lysanias876 4 жыл бұрын
J Leww facts
@mattkhanna
@mattkhanna Жыл бұрын
Why have i delved into ESPN arguments from 3 years ago
@rayp4986
@rayp4986 4 жыл бұрын
“I remember these things” 😂😂😂
@iismellgood
@iismellgood 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see this as baby Stephen A Smith
@docrussojr
@docrussojr 4 жыл бұрын
Melo would've had a Kawhi-like development.
@TheBINIBALL
@TheBINIBALL 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is a legit "what-if" situation
@stevenbnd
@stevenbnd 4 жыл бұрын
"I remember these things " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@PikachuUseSpiritGun
@PikachuUseSpiritGun 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao "Stephen A.Smith N Wesson"😂😂
@bc1406
@bc1406 4 жыл бұрын
Max caught in a web of his lies
@johnmickns
@johnmickns 4 жыл бұрын
Those pistons teams underachieved actually. They shoulda at 2 chips at the least and add melo instead of darko...
@briant1745
@briant1745 4 жыл бұрын
john mickins no they didn’t, beating the lakers in 04 is still regarded as a massive upset They had no superstar, average offense, and the west had like 4 contenders, at least, what do you mean?
@johnmickns
@johnmickns 4 жыл бұрын
@@briant1745yeah they lost to the spurs the next year i get that. Spurs were VERY solid. But they had absolutely no business losing to the heat in '06 in 6, or the Cavs in the '07 also in 6 both in the ECF
@dentonkellyjr8095
@dentonkellyjr8095 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnmickns yea they should have won against the cavs atleast but gotta give props to Lebron
@johnmickns
@johnmickns 4 жыл бұрын
@@dentonkellyjr8095 I'm a HUGE lebron fan. He put on one of the greatest playoff performances of all time. I also thought it was poor coaching on the late flip saunders part as well
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 4 жыл бұрын
A Pistons team with Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince , Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace and Carmelo Anthony as your sixth man would absolutely win multiple NBA Championships.
@Etpsenior7ohFoe
@Etpsenior7ohFoe 4 жыл бұрын
6:51 “HARVARD?? Harvard!! “ Lol 😂 SAS goat reminder lol uncle shay next up thought 🤷🏾‍♂️ lol
@ziggygotdajuicetv4086
@ziggygotdajuicetv4086 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Stephan A Smith: *Loud Noices*
@anthonysegree571
@anthonysegree571 4 жыл бұрын
Max have something personal against Melo I’m convinced lol
@toddymcgann6129
@toddymcgann6129 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause he never brought the knicks anywhere
@youtubeburr
@youtubeburr 4 жыл бұрын
Toddy McGann be bought them to their first playoff series win since 2002. That was the only time he had an actual team around him
@austin78993
@austin78993 4 жыл бұрын
He's scarred by the mismanagement of the Knicks and Melo's selfishness is the epitome of post golden-age Knicks that don't care about winning. Max grew up in New York and he knows a selfish player when he sees one.
@youtubeburr
@youtubeburr 4 жыл бұрын
austin78993 how was melo selfish? Let me guess “he KicKed LiN oUt”
@youtubeburr
@youtubeburr 4 жыл бұрын
kiyan west and meanwhile lebron who got his coaches fired and tried to get spo fired is viewed as unselfish. These media narratives have gotta stop
@mkadoza
@mkadoza 4 жыл бұрын
Chauncey Billups is one of the most underrated players of ALL TIME. By Far. Superb defender. Superb shooter. Game changing guard. Would start on any NBA team today.
@georgei2210
@georgei2210 3 жыл бұрын
The main thing with Melo to the Pistons, is do they still trade for Sheed mid season. Which wasn't mention in either of the two clips I just watched.
@reginaldhill8082
@reginaldhill8082 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen A : put ppl around melo that can defend like they did iverson ... also stephen A ... melo has only been to one conf finals
@johndonatien8480
@johndonatien8480 4 жыл бұрын
Reginald Hill lol whats your point 😂
@T.Y.R.E.L.L.
@T.Y.R.E.L.L. 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly they didn’t surround melo wit great defenders like that that’s why he only made one conf finals
@brown_xkmd486
@brown_xkmd486 4 жыл бұрын
people always say thay philly team was trash but they specifically built that team around AI. got guys who did all the defense/rebounding so AI could just focus on scoring. that’s why they made the finals and why larry brown won coach of the year
@reginaldhill8082
@reginaldhill8082 4 жыл бұрын
ce and not to mention they stole a game from LA ..... IN LA .. clearly overmatched
@brown_xkmd486
@brown_xkmd486 4 жыл бұрын
Reginald Hill they were one of the best defensive teams in the league that year, that helps. that kind of roster set up is the only way I see a team making the finals if their star player is primarily just a scorer like melo/AI
@LUX-lx6fb
@LUX-lx6fb 4 жыл бұрын
" I love you son" Stephan a: "Mom your wrong n here's why"
@kanthonyofficial
@kanthonyofficial 4 жыл бұрын
the funniest thing about this is the satellite delay. that’s what makes the show. 😂
@theoakman80
@theoakman80 4 жыл бұрын
And Max is wrong. The Bulls had the best defensive team. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Harper. The Pistons team was an absolute defensive force.
@mitchfricano
@mitchfricano 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny because they literally have nothing to talk about
@2khoward77
@2khoward77 4 жыл бұрын
Max really is such a downgrade from skip. He has ruined first take
@joshuablackburn5770
@joshuablackburn5770 4 жыл бұрын
2kdwightboy first take was already ruined
@SILMANTV
@SILMANTV 4 жыл бұрын
SAS tried to act like he’s sum basketball genius when he picked 7 finals wrong IN A ROW speaks in generalities,hypotheticals,psychological and intangibles more than anybody
@darkkiwi6312
@darkkiwi6312 4 жыл бұрын
0:00 the disrespect and look at max face too smh
@johnngaruiya5173
@johnngaruiya5173 4 жыл бұрын
Some guys are just not champions; Melo, CP3, Charles Barkley it always seems like something will happen and they don't win, that Larry O'Brian trophy is just allergic to them
@ALYoungFuture13
@ALYoungFuture13 4 жыл бұрын
Dumb comment, Melo would have a Ring Ef Pistons Organization wasn’t Clueless, So Your point automatically invalid
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