Stephen Fry meets an ex-gay therapist. Segment from "Stephen Fry: Out There"

[@Bigvader]

If homosexuality is a choice then so is heterosexuality. I have been a heterosexual my entire life. At no point did I make the "decision" that I was going to spend my life being attracted to females. Never once have I said "You know, I've decided I'm going to like tits."

[@davidmaskey203]

Nicolosi doesn't say that same-sex attraction is a choice though. Living life as a homosexual IS a lifestyle choice. Also, why would same-sex attraction being a choice make heterosexuality a choice too anyway?

[@eclaire_x88x]

@@davidmaskey203 why would anyone choose to be in a minority, to be ridiculed and bullied out of choice. Saying homosexuality is a choice is by definition saying all sexuality is a choice...its ridiculous. You are who you are.

[@davidmaskey203]

@@eclaire_x88x I don't think same-sex attraction is a choice and neither did Nicolosi when he was alive. Living that lifestyle is a choice though, how can it not be?

[@davidmaskey203]

@puroB why would that make heterosexuality a choice though?

[@eclaire_x88x]

@@davidmaskey203 it's not a lifestyle choice its who you are it's part of your identity. You can no more choose your sexuality than you can choose your eye colour. I dont see why anyone would chose to be marginalised.

[@sabrinafrolich5669]

Telling the anti-gay therapist that he could easily pass as a gay man and his reaction completely made my day. Thanks, Stephen 🏳️‍🌈

[@michellea9857]

It’s oldest homosexual activist trick in the book

[@michellea9857]

ric david thank you for your beautiful testimony, I am so glad you found healing and restoration in your sexuality.

[@kevinellis8079]

Literally typical

[@alexbennet4195]

ric david I pity you babe

[@WestEndPianist]

The best moment is when he sort of realises Stephen is right and tries to "correct" his mannerisms. Priceless!

[@AKmacintosh]

Stephen Fry is the best, instead of getting angry or combative with the ex-gay therapist he tells him he could easily pass for a gay man, the look on that guys face was hilarious.

[@JonathanDeLeon-em4px]

The video was edited to look that way. We didn't get to hear Dr Nicolosi's response. He probably had a good retort to Stephen Fry's cheap shot.

[@thegreenmage6956]

Actually, it was quite cruel of Stephen, and I am quite shocked he could show such self-conscious weakness.

[@Crypt0n1an]

Actually that might be one of the worst things I've seen Fry do. Clearly it was meant as a cheap jab and the man took it as such. This is propaganda or at the very least a very partial view promoted by a gay man, I expected better from Fry. I'm not an advocate of conversion therapy but if people want to try it why is it any of Fry's business, as long as there is no coersion or adverse effects people can do what they want. These days we have 200 lb + men wanting to become women which is an infinitely more complex thing to do.

[@nemo9864]

@@Crypt0n1an You know what else is messed up? Trying to convert gay people.

[@Crypt0n1an]

Hell's Bells If the conversion is desired by the person in question and there is no coercion then i see nothing wrong with that. The days of forced conversion are long gone. Try again!

[@Brood98]

Here's how Dr Nicolosi described one of his patients in his book: "Thomas James walked into my Encino office - a strikingly handsome man, about six feet tall. His face was smooth, tan, well-scrubbed and moisturized; his eyes were an intense blue that matched the pastel color of his polo shirt. He was wearing crisp chino pants and polished brown loafers. I offered my hand and gave him a smile. Tom returned my greeting with a quick, forceful handshake, then dropped his lanky frame into the tapestry-print chair toward which I had motioned him.' Yeah dude that's how straight guys talk about other men kek. This dude gayer than Liberace lmfao.

[@loodlebop]

I actually think there was some homosexual related scandal with this "therapist" or one of them in recent years, which would explain this excerpt

[@Dehzee]

holy wow, thanks for posting that.

[@bossman1944]

he was hot!

[@PainfulRenegade]

That Liberace link... lmfao...

[@Cyba_IT_NZ]

I bet a lot of catholic preists wish they'd thought of this business plan first. As a way of finding young gay men and getting paid for it, it's brilliant. He's not as silly as he looks.

[@lucasmcloughlin4917]

"You could easily pass as a gay man." The look in the guy's eyes is priceless. lmao

[@jesuiscequejesuis2267]

Probably because the therapist was once gay (according to what he says in a video in 2015).

[@elidrissii]

Yes because it has nothing to do with the conversation being had, and is a retarded comment that distracts from the subject.

[@jackmargetson2264]

Must have been edited, but I get you, funny either way 😂

[@hummingbirdcity]

...and the sudden change in hand posture.

[@thelastfreedomfighter2646]

Maybe because he's proving his point, that we have free will and that being gay is A choice, so we all could be gay. Too bad the masses of sheeple that liked this comment have no idea that this is an unprovable and popular statement yet you all seem to have opinions based on 0 evidence.

[@sophiejameson4064]

I'm totally heterosexual. I couldn't make myself sexually attracted to other women. That's why I'm sure that the idea you can change someone's sexual orientation is just foolish.

[@Nayshjin]

@Hairy Chinese Kid Nothing wrong with that tho

[@Nayshjin]

@Hairy Chinese Kid alright

[@kylekinnett6093]

Wait so you for you as a woman sexually that hard set for you? Because ive met grils who say they are straight but would hook up woth an attractive enough female

[@LeGrandBoeuf]

@@kylekinnett6093 thats being bisexual and not admitting it

[@kylekinnett6093]

@@LeGrandBoeuf ive often wondered about the subject

[@aidangreene414]

THe amount of disgust in his voice when he said NARTH lmao

[@omairsh8]

In that classic dry British delivery :D

[@THISxISxTHExMOMENT]

"60% of our clients are teenagers" That made me sad... what a horrible person. These kids need support and love, not 'therapy' with some quack. (Im a straight female btw)

[@Macca-95]

Personally I have zero issue with adults doing this type of "therapy". I do not think it shows efficacy and I don't agree with it but if they wish to try it then that's their choice. I also have little issue with a, say 16-17 year old who chooses of their own volition to do this. I do not like the parents calling up for the child because they found him jerking it to gay porn, that is not right.

[@TheIsambard82]

@@Macca-95 No 16-17 year-old would choose of their own volition to do this, Macca. If they do, then they should be oriented towards a sensitive therapist who would help them to discuss self-esteem and internalised homophobia.

[@thegatorhator6822]

@@TheIsambard82 Lmao what a warped view. I knew a guy in high school who was exactly like that.

[@tommarsh9180]

I had the same thought. of course more teens are confused by sexual thoughts.

[@photostudio5861]

This guy, Nicolosi, is clearly gay himself and he may get off on hearing teenaged boys discussing their fantasies. Nicolosi will be doing the perp walk one day. Edit: OK, never mind. Nicolosi is dead.

[@Er558858]

Haha 'you could pass as gay' 😂

[@chickennoodlesoup3738]

+Emily Charose his face..

[@Er558858]

+Maria-Elena Martin Haha yep

[@jeffc5974]

+Emily Charose There's a reason people get into that field.

[@SuperEdge67]

He didn't like it did he..

[@MaartenvanHeek]

boy he looked shocked upon that comment

[@letolethe5878]

"What faults in myself do those characteristics I'm attracted to represent?" Oh my god, that is horrible, tragic, so, so cruel.

[@laurawillits176]

Horrible trap. No way out. Let's just love each other, whatever we are.

[@cursedmoonfilms]

lol you moron... that's exactly the truth and your ego is not allowing you to accept that you were hurt and it's not your fault.. it's okay to accept that you were shamed regarding your sense of masculinity growing up... it's not cruel to be honest and help people who might want to heal from that trauma and not sleep with other men.

[@cursedmoonfilms]

@Charlie121 lol it doesn't matter if I'm insulting you or not, moron. You're still wrong and I'm still right because I gave a logical answer and you did not.

[@isacgoncalves425]

@@cursedmoonfilms so how can masc gays exist if just a matter of embody the male caracteristics?

[@lllccc1288]

@@isacgoncalves425 for the most part they dont exist, their masculinity is just anger. and they will still be insecure

[@matthewscott1091]

“Did you abandon your faith?” “Yes I had to abandon my faith.” I swear one of the number one killers of faith is religion. I too saw one of these therapists when I was 15. Before that I saw several others but they didn’t like me because I put them all in their place.😉 I respect everyone’s path but I am thankful I kept my faith. I actually married my husband in an LGBT affirming church. My mom walked me down the aisle & *yes* she’s come a looong way. We met at 19 and just had our 13 year anniversary. 🧡🙂💙

[@laurawillits176]

I love a happy story. Glad you found your love.

[@olamaf1060]

i’m so happy for you 🥺❤️

[@gribwitch]

Your so called "marriage" is a sham. It is an offence against your Creator. Your counterfeit relationship is mocking His intention for us. And God will not be mocked. Perverted love is not love.

[@OscarDirlwood]

Hopefully it falls apart

[@jaystone5036]

Awwww..I know it's 4years but this is heartwarming

[@MrSupermonkeyman34]

I thought it was really clever that they started the interview with daniel giving the impression that the therapy worked so you focus more on the ethics behind what dr nicolosi is doing rather than whether it is possible or not because clearly the ethics is the most important aspect that should be considered.

[@TimPalman]

"It's bad enough being an adolescent most of the time than to have interested parties from either group trying to recruit you" truth

[@lauralil6886]

well said.

[@lizardas]

rob saxon, that's a direct quote from Stephen Fry at the end of the video.

[@lauralil6886]

i know. i see the quotation marks. my reply still stands.

[@Baalur]

When I first heard him say that I thought: He might get in trouble for saying something like that in today's political climate.

[@lizardas]

Why, Baalur? What kind of trouble? Stephen Fry has a formidable intellect, and he isn't confrontational in debates. He would walk all over anyone who took issue with what he said, but in the most polite way. He speaks eloquently about his own homosexuality.

[@DabIMON]

He keeps men from being attracted to other men by making them think about little girls? I wouldn't really call that a step in the right direction...

[@MsCatwoman111]

That's not exactly what he said.

[@Disgruntled_Canadian]

Nice try, get behind me Satan. Stop trying to stop other people from the living their life how they would like. Not EVERYONE wants to be gay. Get over it.

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

Lol his face when Steven said that he could pass for the gay man 😂😂

[@Tuesdayjoe66]

Joe Dirt Yeah..he looked like he could kill didn't he?

[@Demonlord468]

Joe Dirt Thats because he is gay... he admitted it in the Vice Interview! LOL Kinda ironic huh?

[@kansas66701]

But it's true...the doctor does seem gay, and I thought that when the cameras were first on him.

[@TheClassicWorld]

+Tim Bultitude He almostlooked like..he himself actually is gay. Makes perfect sense to me.

[@Lukemooredrums]

Ah shit. i was straight, watched this guy and now i love the shaft. He's good!

[@xdman20005]

"i used to be homosexual, but i had to stop, becuase it made my eyes water"

[@P3t3rPizzarelli]

Congrats, I’m so proud of you

[@uberethair]

Richard Roundtree is a treasure, you should love him

[@fraser1614]

I love the doctors face when Stephen suggests he could pass as a gay man

[@pauligrossinoz]

Fraser Budd-Brophy - he's thinking: _"Shit, I'm busted - he knows I'm actually gay, and there goes my income stream"._

[@ItsNotRealLife]

Fraser Budd-Brophy As soon as i saw him walk across the room i had a doubt about him

[@tonygilder7912]

Peter Really? That is the Brit mentality where all the boys have been buggered buy age 9 for generations. No mate, all boys don't fancy cocks. You can "slipper em" all you want but the world is littered with grown blokes who will never get over it. Remember that the next time you want to accuse a man of being a queer just because he disagrees with you on the topic. Believe it or not, some boys did not like it when the vicar wanked him.

[@ItsNotRealLife]

Tony Gilder What ARE you on about?

[@tonygilder7912]

Peter What are you?

[@robertshaus5941]

Proof any fool can get a Ph.D.

[@Naptosis]

@@itsmetheherpes1750 There in Moscow you elect the closeted terrorist as President\Dicktaster, and gangs go around unzipping their trousers, taking their tiny, frozen, Russian grapes out, and pee on innocent men to prove to themselves that the closeted feelings they have inside, aren't real. To go out hunting for defenceless gay people, who don't do individuals, nor society, any harm, means that you doth protest too much. Try therapy. Or castration.

[@aeonjoey3d]

he's more like a soulless ghoul preying upon his fellow gay people (bc he's gay af) battling forever with his own internalized homophobia, and used that self hatred and decided to make money off of others to keep himself occupied so he stops thinking about DICKS lol

[@franciscoantonius8583]

No, he is not fool. As a gay, I acknowledge that his theory is true.

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

Cool it with the antisemitism

[@ozurking4748]

Well i do have a PRETTY HUGE Di--

[@alluvermin]

Everything you ever needed to know about that man and what his motivations are is revealed in the fear in his eyes the moment Stephen tells him he could pass for a gay man

[@pauligrossinoz]

alluvermin - yeah, he feared for the loss of the income he derives from his abusive "'therapy". He's just a greedy charlatan.

[@ineffablemars]

He probably is a self hating gay.

[@poorenglishjuggler]

alluvermin yes ashamed of his gayness.

[@singu7764]

Have you ever heard about video montage?! No? ;)

[@jrtien]

Really? You can get all of that from the expression he makes? Thats a huge leap.

[@charlesdavis7087]

Thank you Stephen for being on earth.

[@andrewt836]

Amen

[@morbiusmorbius4906]

Thank you

[@maxuabo]

Happy to help

[@tedmccarron]

Thank you Dr. Nicolosi for being on Earth!

[@littleladytomboy]

It's very interesting to me how most conversations about homosexuality revolve almost exclusively around gay men...not even a word about lesbians,as if they don't even exist.

[@ian-op5fv]

Gay men are more often ostracized, that's why.

[@atomosvrial1708]

littleladytomboy I think the problem is that most homophobic organisations are led by men whom have no problem watching two women make out.

[@justanotherutuber3]

littleladytomboy cause what man doesnt like lesbian action

[@lilyperry2000]

I think its because many religious anti gay organisations hate gay men more than lesbian women. Or maybe theres more cases of Gay men being put though conversation therapy. Either way, I think these organisations are gross.

[@SkyBlueDevilsNest]

Guys like watching girls makeout but girls that like watching guys do that are weird and gross. Cuz it's totally fine to objectify women but not men.

[@Accyber]

6:12 - 6:20 "That means the therapy is working" Nah man that means the kid is trying to say he's cured so that he can get out of this wacko "therapy" that his parents forced him into

[@ivaneidedesousa4738]

Laughing my eyes off just looking at the face of the doc when Stephen says he can "easily pass a gayman" !!!!!

[@lukedixon9426]

Ivaneide de Sousa look again closely, its clearly an edit of Stephen interrupting him, and him listening

[@MOTIVATIONBYDAR]

@@lukedixon9426 Exactly

[@ZacharyAlexanderGoh]

The undoing for me when I came out to my mom was when she said she wondered if only I had told them sooner, how they could help me from there. I was infuriated. Honestly, both my parents should know better, but sadly, they’re blinded by their blind faith, but it was nonetheless what made me realise I had lost my parents to their concept of God. It is an immense pity.

[@late8641]

I feel sorry for you, I think parents should accept and love their kids unconditionally and not try to form them to fit their own narrow view of the world. This is why I despise religion and favoring personal superstitions over reason and evidence.

[@JustinHeretical]

Oh come on, that guy can't turn gay people straight! He really isn't that ugly.

[@dontwannadie7634]

SICK BURN!

[@stevefromct168]

+Justin Heretical Good point.

[@shelleythompson2049]

So if a man beats a woman its the mothers fault, if he's gay its the fathers fault. Ahahahahahaaaaa... I really hope this guy offers a refund. How hilarious.

[@cursedmoonfilms]

lol the reason this stuff seems to affect you enough to write such a silly message is because your ego is threatened since you've built your identity around something that comes from shame and trauma early in life. It's okay to admit and overcome that shame... it wasn't your fault.

[@Whocares66672]

@cat man do so if parents raise 5 children and 4 are straight and one gay you are claiming that they were amazing parents for 4 but shitty parents for one? If a family raises a gay child who becomes a doctor, lawyer, professional athlete, actor, etc they failed them? I can see your parents sadly failed you in the intellectual department

[@GN.24.7]

@@cursedmoonfilms you’re in every single comment section cope, u ppl made a world that allows 2 major world religions to compare us to rapists and pedos, oh but our egos threatened says the bitch who worships a literal rape baby

[@Raivan31]

My mother was cold and distant (not mean, just ...there...like a piece of furniture) and my father is a racist, biggoted, sexist, narcissist, who once arranged for my older brother to beat the shit out of me for his entertainment, another time he allowed my brother to use his Great Dane to attack me (I have some large holes in me now, thanks for that guys, real top shelf stuff that) And I'm not gay.... or even all that traumatised... well..ok... I live with a constant rage, but apart from that I'm ok.

[@IEatSkrubsMyGrub]

Call childline rite nau

[@Portubed]

***** It's not about condemning anyone, for crying out loud. It's about helping them precisely with the issues that they lived in their early years, especially with the parents but not just that.

[@Bigbub66]

Raivan31 I've never seen someone's emotional presence as "like a piece of furniture". It'd be funny if the story weren't so sad.

[@cornelishenk4569]

Raivan31 I would kick my brothers ass and then hit my dad with my strong back pimphand.

[@aliendruglord]

***** what a load of crap you've been brainwashed to believe lol it's unbelievable. you do realize there is homosexuality in NATURE. and there is actual scientific proof to support it, a basic google search could tell you that. your opinion is not only wrong, but also very disrespectful to arguably about 15-20% of the population.

[@81Mace81]

5:55 It seems Dr Nicolosi would rather his patients fixate on 'little girls' than grown men.

[@itsmetheherpes1750]

be careful, P is a part of the LGBTQIAPK+ community, and it is protected by law. are you somehow discriminating ? it is illegal, and you can get in trouble for it. are you a Nazi ? is that it ? go ahead, explain to the court about how you are a Nazi. do you know what Nazi's did ? ha ? you piece of shit. stop discriminating.

[@81Mace81]

Ha, being called 'uptight' by someone who clearly fails to grasp the concept of comment frivolity.... dude.

[@81Mace81]

Err I THINK you've got the wrong thread as A) Nobody here said they were homosexual, and B) Nobody even mentioned 'Born that way' so I think you'd best read a little more carefully in future ;-)

[@claudearmstrong9232]

NPC #947382746578 Perfect! But, those with irrational hate for all those who share the truth about the acquired sexual preference for same gender sex are far too invested in their warped nature to face themselves and apply common sense facts against their choices. That's not to say that they cannot change their tastes, it is to say that their PRIDE lassos their self-respect and causes them to rise up in irrational protection and promotion of their damaging choices to then inflict their life style on all others they can possibly convert to their form of religious faith.

[@81Mace81]

@NPC #947382746578 No deflection needed. You clearly have an inability to accept comments on humorous face value. My remark is a completely valid (whilst tongue-in-cheek) observation. I'm sorry for you that your bigotry makes you feel the need to respond with such bitterness.

[@BenWillock]

I had very little to do with my father until I was 18 and was very close to my mother and I'm pretty sure I'm not gay.

[@BanAaron]

+Ben Willock What they say is, if you hate your father then you want to be with men to regain the closeness with a man that you never had. If you hate your mother then you become repulsed by women and therefore prefer men. You can't win. They want you to be different and will tell you whatever they have to, to change you.

[@Atlas65]

I had a gay roommate. And he didn´t really get well with his mother, but did get well with his father. All the straight friends that I have that don´t get along with one of their parent is usually they don´t get well with their father. Maybe it has to do with what Fraud talked about the Oedipus complex, so it makes perfect sense that t is the other way around with gay men.

[@onionhead9414]

apart from fucking men in the ass , no you're not gay at all Ben

[@markc5504]

Stupid statement. Does prove anything.

[@markc5504]

I meant, does'nt prove anything

[@doctorfeelfunny584]

Does he teach Asians not to be Asian, tall people to be shorter, or just the gay to straight thing?

[@josephmckenna8780]

well said

[@ashaank]

Why people just don't understand that "live and let live" is beyond me. Well said btw!

[@usha3938]

*disclaimer-I fully support the rights of the LGBT peeps* The issue with gay to straight "therapy" is that sexuality is mostly a mental thing, and people's minds are in some aspects, more malleable than their bodies. It's why you can indoctrinate people.

[@ashaank]

"sexuality is mostly a mental thing" - you what mate?

[@usha3938]

ashaank much like every aspect of your personality, it mostly happens in your brain. That's why I put the disclaimer at the beginning.

[@nicksum29]

Perverse. Don't know why one human being would try to twist someone's mind so abominably. Just evil.

[@nicksum29]

***** Being evil is gay.

[@nicksum29]

***** Charming.

[@roder51]

+Ghenghis Khan Your book. Your rules. You go to hell.

[@gattamelata1940]

+Ghenghis Khan: and isn't that what you would like? Homophobes usually are repressed homosexuals

[@joe4316]

+Ghenghis Khan Were you born that ignorant, or did you choose to be that way? You have no authority over who goes to hell, you self righteous twit. Not that there is sufficient evidence that heaven or hell exists.

[@thomasarthurmaj]

Much respect to Stephen Fry for sitting down to talk with someone with whom you disagree fundamentally. Takes courage. More of us need to do the same. Maybe we’ll learn more than we expect.

[@Harry-qr8jr]

"Well there was this girl when I was 13" ..."good triangle of containment, picture that girl" HOLD THE PHONE You just asked some guy who thinks he's gay to picture a 13 year old girl and see if they are attracted to them.

[@LuciferSpiro1993]

When "I" was 13. Not "My classmate" when I was 13.

[@SuperRoboats]

"well when I was 13 years old, there was this little girl at school..."

[@harry99072]

"The good news is that you're not gay anymore, the bad news is that you're a peadophile"

[@marcuspainter4885]

Harry Potter my thoughts exactly!! I was like wait..... What?! And he says being gay is the problem.

[@mannfan12]

Well when I was 13 there was this boy....

[@LFOVCF]

That Doc's face when SF said he could pass as gay, lol...his face was like a smacked arse! lol

[@Jaeden_Phoenix]

Considering my first ever notion that I may prefer men was when I was 6, I doubt it's about trauma

[@cursedmoonfilms]

uhh a 6 year old boy doesn't have any concept of attraction towards another male unless he was shown that likely through abuse... or you're being dishonest... or it's just that the shame moments from masculine forces (such as the father perhaps) likely happened very early for you

[@Limemill]

Of course they do. Every gay I know has been attracted to men from early childhood the same way I knew at 6 I was attracted to girls. My first crush that I can remember was around 4 or 5 y. o.

[@Limemill]

This is complete bullshit. The amount of straight people raised by single moms is the same as the amount of straight people raised by couples. Likewise, as many gay people emerge from two-parent families as they do from single-parent families. Finally, there’s no statistical difference in the amount of gay people raised by gay couples vs straight couples, whereas by your logic, in the supposed absence of any ‘masculinity’ in gay couples, their children should ´become’ gay too, which is absolutely not the case. Last but not least, in animal species with two distinct genders (which is not always the case) that are not bisexual (like dolphins), the percentage of gay animals remains stable across generations, much like in humans. Given the most different parenting setups there exist in nature (two parents, one parent only, almost no parenting at all, the whole pack is parenting, etc.), for sure this has nothing to do with examples of ´masculinity’.

[@Limemill]

@cat man do Why the hell would you need a source for something that is true unless proven otherwise? Give me your sources to the contrary coming from respectable peer-reviewed journals and not the Christian Science Monitor. By proxy, if you compare, say, the black and white populations in the US, the former are twice as often raised by single mothers, but the amount of non-straight blacks is roughly the same as that of whites (give or take, depending on the poll it's either the same, slightly lower or higher by one percent point; never will you see anything close to a two-fold difference).

[@Limemill]

@cat man do I *have* been talking about prorated figures, obviously, not the absolute numbers, hence percentages being mentioned and not people. Cool, if you're saying this is well established send my way: 1) Say, a couple dozen of studies in renown peer-reviewed journals by recognized researchers in the field and a few meta analyses of the totality of peer-reviewed evidence demonstrating a clear correlation between single-family parenting and prevalence of gay children (there cannot be any causation established since there's no clear-cut consensus on mechanisms affecting sexuality); 2) Data of similar provenance showing that, in relative terms, black people have as many more gay people among them as there are more single-family households as compared to whites

[@douglaslawrie3449]

It's nice to find a youtube comment section that isn't reacting violently against gay people here. Even the dislike ratio is low. Could the world be improving or is it just that steven fry is a wizard?

[@ConstantThrowing]

god I love Stephen Fry so much. What a thoroughly decent and morally consistent man. Truly.

[@gribwitch]

Homosexuals ( of which Fry is one ) are "morally consistent" ??? Ha-ha ! Try consistently immoral.

[@ConstantThrowing]

@@gribwitch hahaha that's absolutely true if you're an ultra religious caveperson and live in the dark ages.

[@sebastianrolan-sayanez664]

LMAO Stephen Fry to Nicolosi; "I am always interested in the phenomenon of metrosexual; without being the least bit offensive, I would say you fit that, rather well . . . You pass by GAY." What a memorable line to remember for future use!

[@joelgough4638]

Great interviews.He didn't try to fight with the counsellor, he listened, assessed, and presented what he had to say.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

Stephen Fry is my hero. I first learned about him through his voice acting in games, and his performance was so remarkable that I had to know who was behind the voice. He gives me renewed faith in humanity.

[@onelusciouslad7841]

"People are gay because parents" Me, a gay guy, with two loving and accepting parents: hmmm...

[@cursedmoonfilms]

lol you're dishonest.. every same-sex attracted male including myself is that way as a result of early experiences having to do with one's sense of masculinity. Saying you felt no shame from your father, older brother, or male peers growing up having to do with your masculine identity and simply stating you had "loving and accepting" parents is such a lazy way of protecting one's ego. It's alright to say we were sensitive and felt shame causing us to identify more closely with our mothers and later have a sexual response to masculinity as an attempt to repair the lack of healthy, emotional connection with other males.

[@onelusciouslad7841]

@@cursedmoonfilms No, I had good male friends, wasn't more attached to either one of my parents, I've always loved both of them as much as each other, I have an older brother, we never really fought or anything, never felt any shame from him or my father, never really had any shame from my family so no, I'm just gay, it's literally just how I was born, saying that, what? Masculine experiences make you straight? That's not how it works my guy, you can be super masculine and be gay, you can be super feminine and be straight, you can be way more attached to your dad and be gay, you can be way more attached to your mother and be straight.

[@cursedmoonfilms]

​@@onelusciouslad7841 lmao you're being dishonest and protecting what you think is your identity, I get it... it's hard to admit it, but it's easy to understand. If you are born male you are by default hardwired biologically and psychologically to be straight. You don't "become straight" by any experiences lol stop being dumb and pretending it's the same thing as becoming gay through experiences. One becomes gay over time and can happen unbeknownst to anyone in the family because things that might not seem traumatic to others can be very real to some boys who can be born more sensitive temperamentally. It is a combination of temperament as well as shame moments having to do with ones sense of masculinity. To be gay is the antithesis of masculinity lol... the entire psychological process behind gay thoughts/feelings are nothing more than an attempt at reaching healthy emotional male acceptance and affirmation. Masculinity is not the same thing as macho or acting like a "bro".. lol if you're engaging in gay sex, you're trying, in a maladaptive way to repair your lack of sense of masculinity.

[@ian9846-u7l]

@@cursedmoonfilms you should run your ‘antithesis of masculinity’ theory past some gay rugby players ...

[@cursedmoonfilms]

@@ian9846-u7l lol that's a weak attempt at argument and a strawman fallacy. Masculinity is not "rugged macho man" or a "rugby player". You can be as big and muscular as Mike Tyson, but if you crave buttsex, you are not masculine. You wouldn't have that sexual attraction if you got the healthy emotional connection you needed from masculinity as a boy.

[@jessesmitg2137]

This is so sad. But so good that that young man was finally able to accept himself for who he is. For everyone out there, never let anyone tell you there’s something wrong in you or something that needs to be changed. Gay, straight, bi, asexual, unsure, whatever...it’s all perfectly normal and ok.

[@TryingtoTellYou]

That's simply not true. If you were truly interested in science, surely you would acknowledge that homosexuality is an outlier and therefore the very antithesis to normal.

[@Jesse3beards]

LOL! There's an ad on the side of this video to "Atlantis, All gay cruises"

[@MatthewBaran]

Lol, my ad was for Grindr xD.

[@BoarhideGaming]

I hate to break it to you, guys, but Google makes these ads based on your internet search history.

[@Jesse3beards]

BoarhideGaming Yeah, we're watching a documentary about gay rights. I'll have you know I use incognito mode for my gay porn.

[@MrSpruce]

Well saved Jesse.

[@weaponofmassconstruction1940]

I'll have you know that there's no pussieeeeee!

[@craighicksartwork]

Someone trying to talk round Stephen Fry... Good luck with that.

[@chadfalardeau3259]

Only Hugh Laurie can keep up with him

[@wamyc]

At first I was like, Stephen Fry... you were so close to Nicolosi and you didn't kill him on the spot! Then, after an extremely polite and measured interview, Stephen pays him the compliment that he'd pass very nicely for a gay man. I'm dying. perfection. Stephen Fry does not disappoint.

[@brookaboo92]

These....sick....bastards. I want to cry and scream and cry some more over this kind of shit; "healing" "resolving", this is so messed up it makes it hard for me to even keep living on this planet...I feel so sorry and so ashamed of my fellow humans for doing things like this to innocent people

[@blackraider777]

Anna Sigurdsson you sound like a nice christian

[@Siorse]

Anna Sigurdsson I seriously hope you are trolling, because otherwise you might be one of the most deluded, self righteous people I've seen. Perhaps you should get some help for your apparent metal conditions.

[@SusanRoseArt]

Anna Sigurdsson Anna, your vehement protestations tell a story about what is going on inside your heat and soul. You are possibly the angriest person involved in this discussion so again I ask you, what has happened in your life to make you feel such anger? To you, this is personal, you are incensed, you are oozing hatred. Some people are anti-gay, that is their right, but you take it to the bowels of the earth. Sweetie, I think for your own peace of mind, you get some therapy and then, not only will you see all your "facts" are wrong but you will also discover that you are causing offence and hurting perfectly nice and genuine people. Love makes the world a happier place, not your tornado of unkindness.

[@annasigurdsson6755]

RosebudliasCabochons I'm the angriest? Did you read the original poster? But you are right that I'm angry when they turn a sexual perversion into a human rights issue.

[@jamesboyd4597]

Anna Sigurdsson Wow, just wow. Please just stop talking. The bullshit coming out of your mouth is vile and horrendous. Homosexuality is NOT a perverted sickness. YOU are the one that is brainwashed by religion. Religion spawns fear and hate, and clearly you are full of hate and fear of Homosexuals. They have to be one of the nicest groups of people in the world, and certainly don't hate like you do. Unbelievable.

[@jordankimball2104]

HAHA that "doctor" just described every dudes relationship with their dad. Wait maybe Im gay. lol

[@blacksmith67]

+Jordan Kimball I was just thinking something along those lines. I loved my mother, was distant from my father... why am I not gay?

[@dankojones846]

😂😂 so true.

[@ErdTirdMans]

Look, if everyone who sucked a dick from time to time was gay then we'd both be gay

[@tonygilder7912]

Jordan No, just gay dude's dads.

[@tonygilder7912]

Mila That is stupid. It really is. Patients come to HIM. He does not go out and kidnap anybody. Hi hasn't lied about his data. I notice Frye acted like a punk and cut his interview up and then found some little queen and his mother. Pure propaganda. And again, all Frye had was an insult that the doctor could "pass" as a gay man which is just pathetic really.

[@DamaXion]

Stephen Fry looks so disgusted talking to the doctor, but he still keeps his composure and never raises his voice, he' an amazing man!

[@tedmccarron]

He himself is disgusting so he's really not much of a position to be disgusted about anything.

[@Fingeringmyboarddude]

@@tedmccarron reply?

[@generouslyfat]

​@@tedmccarron be quiet you nonce

[@rywilk]

"Are you happy?" "I'm satisifed with my sexuality". That doesn't really answer the question...

[@breakabridge]

After the interview it's revealed he's still gay and he and his family are comfortable with that

[@breakabridge]

After the interview it's revealed he's still gay and he and his family are comfortable with that

[@lukedixon9426]

Ryan Wilkinson Something I'd like answering is, let's say somebody went for therapy, managed to stop fornicating with same sex partners, but still has the "urge" to, does that mean they are still gay ? If you say yes, then how do you explain recovering drug addicts? Recovering addicts will, for a long time, if not always, have the "urge" to do drugs, but they fight it. So you are saying an alcoholic, who hasn't had a drink in 5 years is still an alcoholic because they have fairly regular urges to have a drink ? Russel Brand admits he'd be high all the time, but it makes him a worse person, is he still a heroin addict? Non sense. Like with anything, if you create a pleasure pathway in your brain, it is incredibly difficult to shut that pathway down (9 years they say). This is why I hold the point: the only evil thing to do is tell a person they can't change, not to help them to change.

[@GN.24.7]

@@lukedixon9426 false equivalency, homosexuality isn’t the same as being an alcoholic which objectively is a choice

[@GN.24.7]

I mean would you expect him to be happy when he lives in a world where 2 major world religions call for the damnation of ppl like him?

[@ALITISA78]

Ive spoken to my son in regards to some people being attracted to the same gender and some are not and never to judge. So far my son is wonderful with everyone whether it be sexuality/ race or a deformity he treats everyone the same. If every parent taught that to their children I believe the next generation would be a lot caring in nature.

[@OscarDirlwood]

You're clearly not suitable to be a parent.

[@Torthrodhel]

I like the subtle experiment he runs by telling the guy he could pass as a gay man. Anyone sensible knows that 'metrosexuality' isn't a sexuality at all, just a fad, pure nonsense based on gross stereotype. And would duly laugh it off, or give an "are you serious right now?" squint, or something along those lines. But this guy took it as an ultra-serious personal insult, and gave Stephen basically a death stare. I'm not even going to go into what I think about his method of encouraging his clients to lust after children rather than adults. For that alone this 'therapist' should be put to a firing squad.

[@Dom20002007]

It is not an experiment. It's a stupid stunt done for the cameras in order to discredit his ideas. Notice there was no opposition in terms of facts? His reaction was a clear edit which may not have even been to that statement from Fry. Notice they do not include his verbal response.

[@Torthrodhel]

​@@Dom20002007 you say "discredit his ideas" as if his ideas require any discrediting. So call it whichever word you like (stunt or experiment, meaning basically the same thing just in a different tone). Allow me to repeat. The guy, under the guise of therapy, encouraged his clients to lust after children rather than adults. ^ is that alone not enough? Seriously? Lemme just answer my own question... it is. It is enough. There shouldn't even be a question over the validity of his "ideas" after that. What are you on? He's running a torture factory for people he has a prejudice against, there's nothing more to it than that. And if you require icing on the cake, then the fact that he wouldn't subject his own kid to it is a fifth nail in the four-nail coffin. Given all that, Fry could be dressed as a clown, jumping up and down and shouting "boo hiss" for 50 minutes and the result would be the same. Really doesn't matter. I was just appreciating that he teased an extra bit of bullshit out of the clear and obvious pile of bullshit, that's all. Was a neat trick, fun to pick up on.

[@Dom20002007]

I am just calling out dishonest and poor editing by Fry and his team. You seem quite emotionally invested in this topic. Where have you got the idea that he gets men to think sexually about children? I'd like the reference for that. Certainly none of his lectures on KZbin advocate that. They all talk about addressing the underlying trauma. Again I haven't heard that about his child but ultimately his therapy would not work unless his child was willing. Your rather potent emotional reaction is why there is little science in this area which is to the detriment of homosexuals that are not comfortable with their sexuality.

[@Torthrodhel]

@@Dom20002007 he says so in the video. And, there is little science in the area because it is an 'area' based entirely on a prejudice, and not valid in the first place. If anyone's uncomfortable with their sexuality, then all there is to that is social stigmas, and social prejudice. We don't even need sexuality categories in the first place. What's wrong with just being attracted to whoever you're attracted to, and not being attracted to whoever you're not attracted to? As is the case for literally everyone (nobody's attracted to everybody of any particular gender after all). Who even cares what gender anyone is? Why not just allow people to love who they love and be with who they want? Of course, I speak in terms of not doing harm. If you're attracted to underage people, that's doing harm (insufficient opportunity for personal development before making such decisions). There is no special type of harm done between people according to whether they're the same gender or not. It literally makes no difference at all. It's like you're saying the reason there isn't enough research into flat earth, phrenology or lizardman aliens is the emotional reaction of people like me. It's nonsense made to satisfy people scrambling for comforting beliefs in a messed up world, taken advantage of by those who want to prey on and increase prejudices. People like him. And once again, you have no reasoning to waive away his decision that his own child is too good for the emotional torture he subjects other peoples' children to. If there is nothing else so revealing, it's that.

[@SeanShimamoto]

OMG, Mr. Fry, I’m sure a huge fan!!! I haven’t even started watching the video but I’m already happy that we have you as our champion! I’m a 45-y/o gay man and I’m very proud of being gay and after feeling that being gay was a curse...I now view being gay as being a gift! 😁 I was raised by two very loving parents...and my dad was a blue-collar worker who took my bro and I fishing, crabbing, camping, taught us to change our oil and work on our trucks...and when I told him I was gay, his ONLY question was “are you happy?” That was his ONLY concern. I knew I was gay since I was 9 years old and had a loving ultra masculine dad...so that therapist’s views are completely skewed. As I was watching the video, I loved your wit when speaking with that quack.

[@edwinostberg8768]

bruh just be yourself you dont gotta be proud of it or tell your story on the internet. just live your life and dgaf what people think man you do you

[@SeanShimamoto]

Edwin Östberg Dude, did I hurt anybody with my post? I AM being me, and for the first time in my 45 years on this earth, I DO feel good about myself. Sorry that me having self pride for the first time in my life offends you but after decades of feeling shitty about myself, I’m not gonna feel bad for expressing myself in a manner that’s not offensive to the vast majority of people.

[@gonufc]

@@edwinostberg8768 To be far mate, it wasn't exactly irrelevant to the content! Just gave a persona reflection on the video- it's hardly on the spectrum of "Worst/ Nastiest KZbin Comments"! @Sean - I'm a straight 29 yo male but I couldn't imagine a better response from your Dad- especially in such a nervous, vulnerable situation.

[@gasmaskboi19371945]

It made me smile when Stephen said what I was exactly I was thinking. That the guy could come across as a gay man.

[@AnytimeMinutes]

He did NOT approve of being called metro sexual. Haha

[@extravirginoliveoil7967]

I was a capitalist; after many many moons of praying to my lord Fidel Castro and a lot of acid I'm now a communist.

[@randy9865]

All praise the redistribution of psychadelics

[@smallstudiodesign]

Meanwhile ... People’s Republic of China ... totally communist ... and rampantly capitalist. Clearly you’re poorly schooled in global economics and politics. The opposite of communism isn’t capitalism ... it’s not even democracy ... it’s fascism.

[@patti6178]

I have no idea what this means or why this comment is in this video, but it's hilarious

[@Electric-Lady]

Kids, don't ever let society tell you who you can and cannot love. If there is a Higher Being, it created you exactly as you're meant to be.

[@TryingtoTellYou]

If a higher being did this to me, I'd like it's address and a baseball bat.

[@hermanhelmich]

6.36 the hand movement and look on his face is priceless and says it all HE IS

[@coreycox2345]

I was pleased when my sons told me that many of their gay classmates were never even in the closet. This is an improvement from the way I remember school. It does not seem healthy to teach people not to trust their instincts. (Except when these damage others.)

[@nazarenogualco1199]

@Politely Correct There is not a "homosexual gene". Dumbass.

[@drew8235]

I mean... the therapist really does seem like he's in that line of work because he himself is gay and absolutely cannot deal with it, perhaps due to some childhood trauma with his father finding out. One of the interesting things you learn early on in studying psychology is that when a person is completely and totally against something there is usually a very specific reason for that, often because they're guilty of the very same thing.

[@bvbocan1]

When Stephen Fry told the Gay Shrink that he could pass for a gay --- LOL --- the look on his face was priceless. I had the same thought as Stephen Fry

[@voiceover2191]

The fact that we live in a world where this conversation is even still needed, is a very sad state of affairs. Loved the look on Nicolosi's face when Stephen Fry made the comment about him being able to pass for gay. Really hit a nerve there, he was obviously right on the money. It made me laugh and feel sad at the same time.

[@jakejones2329]

"You could pass as a gay man" LOL called him OUT

[@rud5101]

I don't understand how you can have a smart, hard working, wonderful child, and think of them as a failure because of who they love. Christians really are something else.

[@holden4620]

Okay , “these clients can trace back to a time when they were trying to get their fathers approval” . So can everyone else 😂

[@HandyRaib]

And that, kids, is called brainwashing.

[@dragonmartijn]

Don't forget to call all other things also brainwashing.

[@kingthief9118]

Yep, you can't change someone's genes with talk therapy

[@zeokhann]

6:45 plot twist

[@Beunibster]

Not really, I could tell he was as day as the gay is long.

[@datrandomguy128]

Omg when he sassed that guy out! I died!

[@AngloAm]

I am amazed at people who can even talk to these people politely.

[@GioGoiBoi1]

OMG I ADORE STEPHEN AND EVEN MORE SO WHEN HE SAYS “you could pass as a gay man” !! haha WOOOO

[@fergochan]

Dan and his mother seem like amazing people, and it makes me glad to see him happy with himself. On a completely unrelated note though, is the thing with Stephen's collar intentional?

[@userwl2850]

i love gay men,,,,,more girls for me.

[@moonchart]

If the lack of connection with the Father theory is true, nearly all of us would be gay 😂

[@pembroke2794]

Outstanding interview. As a retired psychotherapist and fifteen year educator of budding therapists, I always warn about the dangers of conversion therapy. It is so re-traumatizing.

[@robintropper660]

HUGE RESPECT for Stephen Fry! He dares tackle really difficult subjects and treat them seriously and even handed!

[@gribwitch]

"Even handed" ? Fry set out from the start to discredit conversion therapy and his pro gay cynicism about it was on display throughout.

[@catherinegillan4404]

it just shows what a lovely man steven fry is to put himself in that position

[@andreasretsinas2142]

From 8'40" Stephen Fry confess the reason of his homosexuality. He talks about his parents and give us the universal model of homosexuality. Joseph Nicolosi is completely right and his lectures have helped me and many other men suffering from attachment trauma. If you want to have fun with your highly sexulialized complex post traumatic stress responses, keep going. If you want to evolve and not be a slave of this fetish (yes, it is a fetish) you should search for the right therapist /therapy.

[@RationalistMH]

You sound miserable

[@m.f.5739]

I couldn't find better words. Dr. Nicolosi is completely right and has helped hundreds and thousands of men.

This reminds me of Sacha Baron Cohen's Bruno scene with the religious fanatic/anti-gay "therapist".

[@LemonsAndSalt69]

As a heterosexual man, I say to everyone: love whomever you want, love whomever you are attracted to. You get one life, embrace your sexuality, embrace your love-life.

[@aaronalfer2615]

"If I'm bi-curious and I'm somehow made from God then I think your God must be a little bit bi-curious himself!"

[@edgeisloveedgeislife5439]

@Chad K Yes, "Made in God's image" isn't actually a good argument to justify your morality because if everyone is made in God's image, using this argument means twisting the idea of God to your ideal version of humanity. That's the point, it doesn't work. You need to pick your morality through your philosophy and not your bible because the modern understanding of the bible is inherently twisted to fit with our modern framework, and because the modern version of the bible is itself an amalgamation of stories edited by the agendas of kings, truncated, and replaced. God is gay, straight, bisexual, a pedophile, sex-aversed, paraphiliac, genderless, a man, or indescribable as an entity. The idea is so non-specific and incomprehensible that besides the 10 commandments, it's a game of "pick which popular sect fits your prejudices and pre-concieved ideas of morality". You aren't allowed to claim you know what an omniscient, omnipotent, invisible being who speaks to us through feelings and cryptic signs thinks about an issue because you read a broken translation of an incomplete version of an edited book that might've been written mostly by men interpreting God's ideas. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

[@MysteriousDrella]

That trippy 'spacemusic' while he enters the office of the 'doc'. XD

[@mattcast44]

Dan Gonzales says: "I eventually came upon Dr Nicolosi's book in my university's library." That's not what books and libraries are meant for, mate.

[@Jakers457]

Sometimes I feel America is quite a radicalized country.

[@Mexighetti]

Two years later and this is an understatement.

[@EdwardOberon]

IT IS and always has been.

[@deidara_8598]

No wonder people get shot down and killed almost every day there, and if not for the guns, I'm sure knife sabbings and car "accidents" would raise in popularity.

[@eridaniss314]

ending environmental protections; including gutting species protections, monetizing state parks, and allowing huge corporations to get away with pollution - just for starters.

[@FukaiKokoro]

We have christains and conservatives trying to start christain sharia. Love how christains who also tend to be republicans literally twist the Bible so much to fit their own personal and political agendas to the point they are going against everything in the Bible. Their religious and political views don’t match up. Like how it’s against their Bible to consume shellfish, but they just twist that around to fit what they want. Like how it’s against heir Bible to judge another persons sins as when they do that they are taking the role of god and acting equal to god and will be punished once for their sins and another for the sins of the person they judged. So basically that means if a christain judged a gay person they themselves will be judged as if they where gay on top of their personal sins. But they twist that so it’s ok for them. I could go on and on and on. Here’s some political hypocrisy’s. Since christain fundamentalists tend to also be extremely conservative, like how they act like they the conservatives/ christains are the minority and are being censored like with free speech online and are the snowflake victims when in reality it’s the polar opposite. Or how they continually give tax cuts to the wealthy, that goes against Jesus as in the Bible the wealthy do not go to heaven unless they give everything of worldly possessions away. It’s easier to put a camel through The eye of a needle rings a bell. They love the constitution and consider themselves constitutionalists YET ONLY when it is in their best interest. They do NOT like it when the constitution goes against their belief system.. Which is super hypocritical. They dislike Muslims because sharia law and act like America is so above that shit yet EVERY chance they get they push for a religion based government. I could go on for ages.

[@kaizokuAUTO]

Fry is a gift to the world.

[@sayno2lolzisback]

Stephen Fry is a wonderful interviewer! He doesn't attack anyone with his own agenda but merely, lets others set forth their own. He knows the viewer can make their own conclusion about what they are witnessing.

[@sadikmeah4057]

Did that therapist say he told one of his patients to focus his thoughts on a little schoolgirl and hold that thought??? Did anyone else find that disturbing? So he wants people to stop being gay and instead he would rather they were paedophiles?? Nuts

[@MrGarmanarnar]

Stephen Fry has such a great way with words

[@thecomicchannel5078]

I disagree with sending kids unwilling to this kind of therapy, but it should be available for those who personally seek it. We want a free world where we all could get what we would want to. I don't like that people mock the Dr Nicolosi. He has not offended anyone, He never went door to door picking up gay people and forcing them to have therapy. His door was open to those who wanted it instead. Also it's fun how none realized that what Nicolosi says, already appear in the same video. The gay interviewed, is a grown adult, next to his possessive over present mother, and I don't see his dad in the scene. People call bigot people like Nicolosi instead He had a very open-minded view. It's so sad when people reject his theory because might hurts their emotions.

[@seankirkham3488]

I mean, he does say that he see's teenagers and adolescents which in my opinion is a sign that he isnt all that great of a person. For adults seeking it, while I disagree with the therepy its their choice. Any therepist worth anything wouldnt see a child given that conversion therepy is seen as a form of child abuse and they are obviously being sent there by their parents.

[@thecomicchannel5078]

@@seankirkham3488 yeah I agree with you regarding the fact child shouldn't be forced to go.

[@GN.24.7]

his “view point” says that homosexuals could be cured, this view point is objectively anti homosexual, my god u ppl will allow any sort of anti homosexual bigotry

[@caroledrury1411]

I embrace the variety and choices we are now given in today’s society as opposed to the horrific narrowmindedness of yesterday

[@lynnkayee1015]

That therapy works SO well. When my highschool girlfriends mom found out we werent just friends she made the girl join a church youth program that included drug addiction treatment/prevention & what they called the romantically confused. (??lol right??) One day she calls me and tells me it was the best thing that happened to her because it showed her who she was. We decided I should go too because if life gives you "you can't see each other anywhere but church" lemons....make out in the parking lot behind a bush.

[@chair7060]

i want to try repairitive therapy just so i can laugh at the therapists when it doesn't work

[@athb4hu]

Can you afford it though?

[@izdatsumcp]

Therapy never works if the patient isn't willing to try.

[@babobay6697]

Politely Correct good thing no one cares

[@trevorct11]

6:36 that hand and that reaction, super straight. 😅

[@Coleo20]

I really enjoyed this video. I get the impression it's part of a larger documentary. Do you know where I could find it?

[@ArthurCSchaperMR]

Nicolosi is a BOSS! I like how he responded to the "gay gene" question.

[@GN.24.7]

notice how there isn’t a heterosexual gene either, his arguments are anecdotal and don’t provide any real proof of “curing” homosexuality

[@Yeomannn]

​@@GN.24.7heterosexuality is the default

[@ArthurCSchaperMR]

@@lucasinthehouse007 You're not even a good liar! Nicholosi passed away in 2017, and he was happily married to a lovely wife and had wonderful children who are continuing his practice. You pro homosexual bigots are so determined to further a perversion comment but you have to lie in order to do so.

[@Lordradost]

A bear is happy being a bear; it is being that all day every day. So are rabbits, birds, fish. But humans are never happy being human, or natural, or a part of the same natural order. Humans like to make there own hypo-human style and tell others it is the way. Because they can't be happy with their happiness by themselves.

[@MatthewBaran]

That was beautiful to read. Absolutely correct

[@TimTeatro]

I think you can be unhappy being yourself while appreciating your own species. I also think that in a lot of cases, it is a good thing to aspire to be better than your are. But like anything, it should be done with moderation and perspective. There's obviously a lack of perspective, if a homosexual person feels they need to aspire to be straight, as if that would make them better people.

[@Lordradost]

Tim Teatro That's true. My point was more about how humans always try to imprint their ideology on others for them to be happy. We have this perception of turning tiny details into big differences, then express forms of disgust at that. "We all know better" and don't like deviations or the unknown. "Judge not..." or lack of perspective indeed.

[@dion789]

You don't know that. Maybe there's a poor bear wandering about Canada, having an identity crisis.

[@Lordradost]

Dion7 Touche.

[@Pearcey80]

It's really fucked up because the vast majority of those performing this therapy are trained physiologists, they have a PhD in psychology, they have enough knowledge in the field to understand that they are by no means "curing" anything but recoding someone, which inherently derives a perverse conflict of interest where the subject biologically feels attracted to a man but psychologically do not think they should. It's this kind of therapy that leads to depression, suicide, deep emotional trauma because it forces someone to doubt something that comes so naturally to them, what they are sexually attracted towards. It's disgusting because these professionals make a career out of causing such stress in people and effectively ruining their life.

[@stevefromct168]

+Pearcey80 Well said!

[@aeonjoey3d]

6:32 he basically internally said "queen." BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[@cabronicusmaximuschingonic1062]

"I now look at gay porn...!" Dude, he is STILL looking at gay porn! That should tell you something.

[@Jacobxiong613]

None of you have read or addressed Dr Niccolosi’s scientific arguments, which is available in the lecture in his channel

[@absolutelypitiful3837]

Exactly. His book Shame and Attachment Loss goes into much greater detail. But gay activists and liberals just don't want to admit that homosexuality is born out of trauma.

[@crossroads670]

Nicolosi has been debunked in numerous academic articles published in Journals. There is nothing 'scientific' about his theory which is based on 1900's Freudian junk.

[@absolutelypitiful3837]

@@crossroads670 it has been debunked by gay and liberal scientists, that's meaningless.

[@crossroads670]

absolutely pitiful - “gay and liberal scientists”, oh like former conversion therapist and EVANGELICAL Christian Professor Warren Throckmorton? That’s so stupid. Christians are turning away from reparative therapy because it causes trauma, depression and suicide. Nice try.

[@absolutelypitiful3837]

Throckmorton is just a liberal turncoat.

[@JUNGLEsausage]

The only trauma that consistently appears in all those young boys' lives is the complete and utter neglectic behavior of the moronic, evil parents of said children.

[@JustARandomFio]

Amen.

[@ADHadh]

I like that Mr Fry went in not to attack or ridicule him, but to hear him out.