I love how Sculley’s gift to Steve was a Newton, not because it’s actually a good device but because it’s a symbol of apple’s failure without Steve and that’s the real gift lol
@camkraw8934 жыл бұрын
Good thing they talked about the reasoning for the gift because if John had left it with Steve's assistant without a message behind it, (yours and my belief of what that sybolism meant) Steve would've taken it as an insult, hence why he asks "is this your way of telling me I shouldn't have killed the Newton?" Good thing they discussed it lol
@JohnHoulgate Жыл бұрын
I once owned a Newton. I bought it within a year of Jobs taking Apple back over.
@joe97395 ай бұрын
Just a kind of a peace offering, they were friends, of a sort.
@Lcarter527 жыл бұрын
man it feels like Kate Winslet spent the whole movie saying "Steve, it's time"
@LikeyCheer5 жыл бұрын
Thats what she said to him when steve was trying to remember the inception theme song
@Tobyee5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@BJ520914 жыл бұрын
Not a bad gig if you can get it
@Rorschach0033 жыл бұрын
It's kind a build up where in the end Steve responds with "I don't care" when Joanna says "it's time"
@spinblackcircles3 жыл бұрын
And listening to him have a conversation with someone else from a hallway
@UpByYou7 жыл бұрын
As a very nostalgic person, the last line "god the things we could've done" gets me so much...
@AF-ku9se7 жыл бұрын
The three lines that get me are.. "yeah, turns out you can".. "what can a one-month do that's so bad his parents give him back".. and "did I do this, screw it up?"
@jqyhlmnp6 жыл бұрын
Used To Be kingdom hearts?
@nonyafourthreetwoonezero73505 жыл бұрын
You should read classic literature, that will have your mind in an emotional rollercoaster
@nyrangersfan63255 жыл бұрын
nonya fourthreetwoonezero what do you mean? I’m curious.
@nonyafourthreetwoonezero73505 жыл бұрын
@@nyrangersfan6325 Reading literature can be a painful experience. Usually more painful than actual life. For me anyways
@utsavgupta18433 жыл бұрын
"You can't refuse to love someone, Steve." "Yeah, turns out you can" One of the most heartbreaking lines in the movie
@thrillhouse47842 жыл бұрын
hence he turned out to love no one but himself
@BastardOfTheNorth2 жыл бұрын
So self centered. He never once thought about maybe it was something wrong with them and not him
@Sam-um9nu2 жыл бұрын
@@thrillhouse4784 he had a lot of love for humanity
@thrillhouse47842 жыл бұрын
@@Sam-um9nu no he didn't? What evidence in all of the testimony of those who worked for him and those who knew him would ever lead you to believe that. He detested humanity and if robots could do the work he would've fired everyone except himself
@Sam-um9nu2 жыл бұрын
@@thrillhouse4784 its too bad there was only a few of him and millions of people like you
@arieldebarros7 жыл бұрын
Aaron Sorkin is a genius. The way he arranges lines in his scenes is haunting, deep and beautiful. I would have never expected how much special this movie would become to me.
@mrspicolli7 жыл бұрын
Ariel Pirangy so is Fassbender
@arieldebarros7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@mlroshi32407 жыл бұрын
It's not always the lines but mostly how they're delivered! Plus awesome writing makes it easier for awesome actors ;)
@mrspicolli7 жыл бұрын
MotherLover Roshi I absolutely have to agree with you... and whether or not there are great actors if they're decent actors in the presence of a great Peru… You can make something really special(Starship Troopers O;-))
@Wordplay78917 жыл бұрын
...why is no one mentioning Danny Boyle? He's the genius that brought it all together. If Sorkin was the Wozniak of this film, Boyle would be the Steve Jobs.
@JoeTheWriter6 жыл бұрын
It just now dawned on me that John Sculley entering the room triggered Steve's thoughts to think about his father because he didn't just see John as a mentor, but as a father too. Makes the torn relationship more heartbreaking now, but those little details...damn, Sorkin.
@ASamson1236 жыл бұрын
Jose Gonzalez it’s not that little. Act one John talks about how Andy is warning John about being a father figure. But it comes full circle as all good story telling does
@ChrisWolff20135 жыл бұрын
Sorkin's a genius.
@narutobroken4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic script
@KamalaChameleon3 жыл бұрын
I hate Sorkin. Overly dramatic nonsense that never happened in real life. A wet fever dream. Low hanging fruit. One liners galore. Pretentious.
@crovelium3 жыл бұрын
@@KamalaChameleon okay
@EnglishPlays4 жыл бұрын
"He'd probably find a reason to sue me" is one of the saddest lines...
@RShadow124 жыл бұрын
Honestly☹️
@Carfalog4 жыл бұрын
That was a goosebumps line.
@bennyparambi39244 жыл бұрын
It may happens
@justinwilliamson63553 жыл бұрын
It's also one of the truest statements, of the entire movie.
@bchen07093 жыл бұрын
“Oh Steve...” The softness, almost pity, in Jeff Daniel’s voice. So beautiful.
@nikunjdixit1175 Жыл бұрын
I love the three dimensions of Scully's relationship with Steve in this movie. We have the friendly and warm dynamic at the beginning of the movie, the hostile standoff in the middle of the movie, and the melancholy and resigned goodbye at the end.
@randbarrett8706 Жыл бұрын
It’s almost as if there were professional writers who understand story structure that put the script together
@nikunjdixit1175 Жыл бұрын
@@randbarrett8706 Is there any point to the sarcasm?
@mighty-roman Жыл бұрын
the hostile standoff wasn't really uncalled for. The movie kinda shows from the perspective of Jobs. But when Scully took over, Jobs was a nightmare to work with. The teams under him had an extremely hard time. Jobs was a perfectionist, and he used to drive people mad with overwork, repeated work, and he was never satisfied(unrealistic expectations). He burned a lot of money, workforce and time. Later on when he came back to Apple he was older, more grown up, and more mature.
@rrbcraftergames3361 Жыл бұрын
@@randbarrett8706it’s almost as if he was leaving a comment, complimenting those very same writers
@alexchng Жыл бұрын
Sadly, I believe Scully and Jobs never reconciled in real life. Jobs went to the grave still hating Scully
@ShamylOthman232 жыл бұрын
Someone from Apple said of this film, I forget who - “None of it happened but it’s all true.” Which perfectly describes why this film is such a brilliant ‘biopic’.
@PrestigeLearning Жыл бұрын
Wonder who that was? Wozniak has openly said similar things, that nothing in this movie actually happened but all of the emotions were 100% real
@ShamylOthman23 Жыл бұрын
@@PrestigeLearning I think that's it... yeah, it was Wozniak.
@quietdemon8138 Жыл бұрын
@@ShamylOthman23 it wasn’t Wozniak it was Andy Hertzfeld aka the guy who couldn’t get the Macintosh to say hello
@cm.design Жыл бұрын
@@quietdemon8138Hertzfeld's stories on Folklore are a great way to get a really good picture of the classic Macintosh team, and what their interactions with Jobs were like.
@dejavu01111 ай бұрын
That's the secret in doing a dramatisation of a biopic.. It has to be rooted in truth in order to work, you have to get the framework and the dynamics right, and then sort of connect the dots by creating the dialogue (which will of course be purely fictional)
@ChrisWolff20138 жыл бұрын
Every scene in this movie is unforgettable.
@kanishkaralasi74087 жыл бұрын
Really.
@jqyhlmnp7 жыл бұрын
.reallY
@andrewtapia16967 жыл бұрын
lies.
@filiporvik27823 жыл бұрын
I just keep rewatching them
@ArmanBaig3 жыл бұрын
@General Pershing …
@arieldebarros7 жыл бұрын
This scene in particular fascinates me because it portraits clarity after confusion. There are moments in life when things get so clear that one can't help themselves but contemplate its beauty.
@Deadlyaztec277 жыл бұрын
Ariel Pirangy This is basically one big hindsight for both people. They realize each other's intentions. Though it's the most profound for Steve because he comes to the understanding that fighting isn't always the best way of dealing with people. In this scene he actually had an argument where he treated someone as an equal when before he always argued with people he thought inferior. That's why he asks if he's "...done this?"
@anthonynavarro39704 жыл бұрын
Ariel Pirangy stop trying so hard fuck you
@S3YTA4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonynavarro3970 ?
@docluv147 жыл бұрын
"Did I do this? Did I screw it up?" Finally taking ownership in his later years.
@KevinJohnson-cv2no5 жыл бұрын
@Daz Ediss People that achieve divine levels of success and accomplishment often do so at the cost of alienating those around them. Julius Caesar caused his fellow peers to become enraged and conspire to murder him. Alexander the Great lost the companionship of his closest generals and even killed one of them after they betrayed him. Napoleon was condemned to exile by those that worked with him most. It's either you conquer the world and lose your relationships (as is bound to happen when you become disconnected with "lower" people), or you're just some average joe. Most people aren't willing to make that sacrifice, and so they end up just some average loser. But hey, at least sally down the street knows you're a "good person", right? Lmao.
@theplatinummask8545 жыл бұрын
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no I mean I feel like it's not as black and white as that. If you aren't the next Julius Caesar then you're a loser?
@TheHellogs44445 жыл бұрын
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no Nope, that's why I call them almost-greats. They can't do what would, if deliberately done, take minutes in a day. They were incompetent enough to not be able to do those things together at the same time. You can't think of examples because you're in this frame of mind now. Incompetent by definition and comparison - a person who can do both is more competent. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Vip3rC4in00225 жыл бұрын
@@TheHellogs4444 I agree with you. Also, Steve Jobs in this scene (although I know its a Hollywood version of Jobs) clearly still harbors feelings about being "given away". Even in his commencement speech he refers to his adoptive mother as his mother. Clearly he cares about being "loved" by significant ones which ultimately means wanting to be a "good person" at your core. When your daughter has ill feelings towards you, you can't help but wonder if you're a bad person. Sure, you can try and justify your actions (or lack of affectionate actions) by saying "I'm really accomplished and adored by the public". But deep down you know that being loved by billions of random strangers is very different from being loved by your daughter. It seems to me that "great" people who couldn't be loved by their significant ones try to use their success to mask their failure of being a normal, decent human being.
@jesseling1444 жыл бұрын
Arrogant men never listen.
@martinsmartians5 жыл бұрын
I don't care if 90-95% of this film never happened (or at least 95% of the dialogue), this is one of my FAVORITE films. THIS and The Social Network are two films that I can watch or just LISTEN to over and over again.
@antarakmit41144 жыл бұрын
Yup
@AYVYN2 жыл бұрын
The biopic is a character study, the movie is called Steve Jobs, not the history of Apple. He really was adopted, neglected his daughter, fired the Apple 2 team, and had some strange habits.
@martinsmartians2 жыл бұрын
@@AYVYN True, but I never said that any of what you wrote didn't happen nor did I say that "Steve Jobs" was the history of Apple. The film did receive criticism for being mostly fiction, but like said: don't care. LOVE the screenplay.
@FilledDude22 жыл бұрын
@@martinsmartians Try watching The Founder.
@martinsmartians2 жыл бұрын
@@FilledDude2 YESSS! I saw it! It was better than I thought it would be.
@Blastfluff7 жыл бұрын
can we just acknowledge how good the soundtrack in the background is?
@DigitalDrummer7 жыл бұрын
I get a "Interstellar" vibe from the soundtrack
@renovatiovr6 жыл бұрын
Digital Drummer It doesnt. It is actually a space 2001 vibe
@DrPhil-kx3ci6 жыл бұрын
I also got an interstellar vibe. They both were unforgettable films for me.
@HungryTacoBoy6 жыл бұрын
Digital Drummer Funny that you and +Rocket get Interstellar vibes because that happened to me as well. While I was listening to this track, titled "Father (Child)", I had space imagery flowing through my mind. Also coincidental that it's title of the track is reminiscent of the themes in Interstellar as well.
@Synthalog6 жыл бұрын
I give you the soul!
@upanishads452 жыл бұрын
"You can't refuse to love someone, Steve." "Yeah, turns out you can." He's talking about his mother, but he's actually thinking about Lisa. He chose not to love his own daughter!
@HeatleyBros Жыл бұрын
Also his father perhaps, his decision to not bring him into his life.
@Uridien6 жыл бұрын
Pretty obvious Jobs would've killed Apple if he stayed on the whole time. His firing, that led to his eventual return, saved Apple.
@p5rsona6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Steve we knew in his later days wouldn't be the same if he was let to go wild. It sobered him up pretty good.
@PointReflex5 жыл бұрын
He learned a fiew bits after he was fired from Apple and started his own company. But it was mostly during the short NEXT Computers era that Jobs really changed a lot. If you watch some of the old documentaries about the formation of the company you'll se that a lot of the old "impossible dead lines" bullshit was carried over by Jobs from Apple to NEXT. Even the small crew he gathered at the begining of the company warned him about those dead lines and the working conditions. When he re-entered in Apple around 1997 he already changed a lot, I think because he didn't want to take responsability for what happened in 1985 but then when he had his own company and full control he failed for almost the exact same reasons, so the "it was the CEOs fault" excuse didn't run no more. Granted he never fully changed, but an improvement was made on his persona after seeing how his attitude with the people under his control ended up being the MAIN CAUSE behind his demise.
@swapode5 жыл бұрын
@@PointReflex Maybe he mellowed a bit, people tend to do that with age. But he was still very much the same and for good reason: His "impossible" expectations tended to be spot on. In terms of deadlines: Parkinson's Law is accepted as true by pretty much any experienced project manager. Whether you give a team 6 months or 18 months, the result will be almost identical, the project will go into crunch time either way, etc. In terms of engineering expectations: Countless of Jobs' "impossible" demands from his engineers turned out to be very much possible just a bit harder to crack. This is widely known as the RDF: Reality Distortion Field. A term coined by Bud Tribble during the Macintosh development. And while it may be taxing it's an essential part of what made Apple great. And I think most key contributors are quite fond of that - at least in retrospect.
@DrMare-ik2nf5 жыл бұрын
He wasnt fired. He left on his own.
@smurp_com4 жыл бұрын
He needed the experience of doing NeXT (OOP, Unix, Interface Builder, multi-ISA, etc) to do what he later did at Apple the second time around
@allys7445 жыл бұрын
“Come in, honey.” *door opens* “It’s not ‘honey.’” I know this is a dramatic film but that part made me laugh.
@joshuajackett63712 жыл бұрын
Jeff Daniels range is incredible. You watch this and forget he was one half of Dumb and Dumber. Brilliant actor!! Criminally underrated
@Tallahassee21 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Daniels didn't start in comedic roles, he's an accomplished actor outside of dumb and dumber. If anything dumb and dumber proves he could play a comedic role perfectly.
@notd0ll109 Жыл бұрын
@@Tallahassee21 he’s just like John C Reilly. JCR is one the greatest character actors of the last 30 years. It wasn’t until the mid 2000s that he became a comedic actor.
@Tallahassee21 Жыл бұрын
@@notd0ll109 you know, I never thought about that. But you are spot on.
@OneAndOnlyYesMan3 жыл бұрын
“Did I do this? Screw it up?” “Let’s let it go now, it has to be time.” I love that line so much.
@aniketdubey73632 жыл бұрын
Could you please explain what did he wanted to say ???
@OneAndOnlyYesMan Жыл бұрын
@@aniketdubey7363Hey, late reply but sure. If the “he” you’re referring to is Jobs, he’s talking about their fractured relationship, as referenced by what he says next “The things we could have done together”. If you’re referring to John, he’s saying that whoever’s fault it is doesn’t really matter at this point and that it’s best to leave it in the past and let it go.
@JohnBonini5 жыл бұрын
2:02 "… the beauty of a tensor lamp." = Pixar
@alexanderleo68094 жыл бұрын
“The most inefficient animals on the planet are humans, but a human with a bicycle becomes the most efficient animal. And the right computer will be a bicycle for the mind.” God Why does that make me feel like the invention of personal computing was so bloody poetic, it’s beautiful.
@alexanderleo68094 жыл бұрын
Really puts me in the mindset of what a computer at the time represented to someone like Steve. He saw the inconceivable possibility of the greatest human creation since the wheel.
@SELECT2892 ай бұрын
I know this was 4 years ago, but he's wrong. Human's are efficient runners, that's why giving us a bicycle makes us so much more efficient.
@ngonzale37 жыл бұрын
"And what if the computer wasn't in The Right Hands, but in everyone's hands." Pair that with, "They gave me back." Together, these lines amount to a man who wanted everyone to have what he wanted to bring to people, who didn't want to be given back. Amazing writing by Sorkin.
@Deadlyaztec277 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Gonzalez It shows me that Steve believed that this technology was so powerful that to limit it to a select group would be disastrous for society. He knew that trying to restrict the technology wouldn't work for long. Hence, giving it only to the right people was impossible. The only thing to do was to give it to everyone. That way np one has to keep because all men are enlightened.
@pizzarelaguy7 жыл бұрын
Hahahah so he made one of the most over priced useless pieces of shit OOh yeah we're all walking around with his ''powerful technology"
@LuxTheSlav5 жыл бұрын
He wanted it not in the right hands, but in everyone's hands, for just $899. What he wanted was to make piles of money. The rest is fairy tales.
@TunjungUtomo5 жыл бұрын
@@pizzarelaguy overpriced, and having unnecessary-price-jacking features?YES. But piece of crap?NO. I've been a Linux guy almost exclusively from 2008, then at March 2019 someone decided to give me a scholarship and a Macbook that's free for me to use and carry around. NOPE, I didn't became a Mac-convert, still a Linux guy as ever, but it gave me chance to see real values of Apple and it's environment that is in multimedia industries, for any other purposes, especially programming/development, go for Linux
@dani04793 жыл бұрын
@@TunjungUtomo exactly. People have preferences and one product has strengths the others don’t have but also has flaws. I was an Android user before because of customization and freedom then I switch to an iPhone last year cause somebody gifted one to me and I am loving their privacy features but I do miss some features that can only be found in Android. I am still a Windows user because that’s what I grow up with and I dislike the MacOs but that doesn’t stop me from appreciating the progress that M1 made. I prefer Spotify than Apple Music. It is what it is. It’s just my preferences. For people to shame other people for using something and buying something with their own money and acting as if they have a say or as if somebody hurts them every time others don’t use their favorite products is just plain stupid. It’s not their life, you do you.
@ExiledExia6 жыл бұрын
This movie is written so beautifully, my gosh
@ChrisWolff20135 жыл бұрын
Aaron Fucking Sorkin
@H.E.M.5 жыл бұрын
And it failed at the box office. Why?
@blank71374 жыл бұрын
@@H.E.M. because theres not much action, it's a movie of pure dialogue and acting. also I dont think it had much advertisement for it.
@jameschristenbury62133 жыл бұрын
@@blank7137 The movie was a failure because the public has taste for shit. They don't appreciate what good movies are.
@mskidi3 жыл бұрын
@@jameschristenbury6213 This is hardly a good movie. Its custom made for the masses
@SimonFerocius6 жыл бұрын
Sculley : Hey Jobs you wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world? Jobs : What? Sculley : (Playing Windows Opening theme)
@melquizedec3 жыл бұрын
actually thats the mac OS start.
@adityaroy76163 жыл бұрын
@@melquizedec sosumi
@paulmuaddib4513 жыл бұрын
...is anyone going to talk about the excellent intercuts in this scene? Absolutely beautiful and brilliant.
@AWDTH11112 жыл бұрын
This film and particularly this scene, has such a haunting yet sentimental spirit. Really casts a shadow of tragedy and regret on the life of Steve Jobs whether you loved it hated him. Makes me think, what if he never became who he was and we never got the personal computer or the iPod or the iPhone or Pixar? What if he would have connected with his father? What if he would’ve reconciled with John Sculley? What if he and Woz became close again? What if he was a better father to Lisa? What if he would’ve gotten his surgery when he was supposed to and he would still be alive to this day? So many questions that will never have answers. What a story.
@PrestigeLearning Жыл бұрын
He was a colossal asshole, but a visionary who changed the world. Anyone who denies either truth is kidding themselves. Seems fitting, even inevitable, that the same visionary pride that brought us the iPhone also kept him from getting his cancer treated properly. He had a rare, treatable form of pancreatic cancer. And he tried to treat it by eating freakin’ carrots.
@DrPhil-kx3ci Жыл бұрын
Carrots taste good
@looneyburgmusic Жыл бұрын
"and we never got the personal computer or the iPod or the iPhone or Pix-" - you do realize that with the exception of Pixar, (maybe), all those other things were already around BEFORE Jobs and Apple claimed to have "invented" them, yes?
@AWDTH1111 Жыл бұрын
@@looneyburgmusicyes of course the technology was there. What else do you know that you’d like to share?
@AWDTH1111 Жыл бұрын
@@PrestigeLearningyes which goes hand in hand with the tragedy. Ironic how the very attitude that propelled him to push the envelope with how people use these products is also the same attitude that theoretically ended his life.
@dogguy86035 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Jobs and Scully never met after Jobs left apple in 85
@tranceformerfx5 жыл бұрын
Half the stuff in this movie never took place, and the most egregious falsity this movie portrays is the "coming to terms" relationship - when in reality, Steve Jobs and Scully hated each other until Jobs died.
@wut69224 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking too. They never met in person again.
@anthonynavarro39704 жыл бұрын
dog guy fuck you
@wut69224 жыл бұрын
@@anthonynavarro3970 Fuck you and every mall santa that ever looked like you!
@anthonynavarro39704 жыл бұрын
Wut no fuck you bloody
@erickleefeld48837 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: During the time that Steve Jobs had been a regular at Jandali's restaurant, he actually did not even know that Jandali was his biological father. He found that out later, after his long-lost sister Mona Simpson had tracked down both him and Jandali.
@p5rsona6 жыл бұрын
Damn. So Steve didn't know, contrary to the movie?
@djLagwayEnjoyer6 жыл бұрын
OhMyBooda well he kinda of was no longer a regular at the restaurant in the movie. But he didn’t know until way after
@JohnDoe-vz7bn4 жыл бұрын
OhMyBooda Steve never says he knew at the time
@anthonynavarro39704 жыл бұрын
Fuck you
@anthonynavarro39704 жыл бұрын
Eric Kleefeld fuck you
@sajidahmed04512 жыл бұрын
Steve: The things we could've done together... John: ...God, the things we could've done... A heartbreaking but wholesome closure to the friendship that was...
@snowbellgaming79517 жыл бұрын
You really really need to listen to this movie to fully understand where every detail of this movie at first I didn't understand it but now I get it IT IS AWESOME I ENJOYED THIS MOVIE!!!!
@stephenstuckey Жыл бұрын
Fassbender is just phenomenal in everything he has done.
@trj_creative8465 жыл бұрын
"Love is just a chemical, we give it meaning by choice" This scene reminded me of this quote.
@AF-ku9se7 жыл бұрын
I could watch this scene over and over again.. the music, editing, writing, and acting is incredible and works so well together.. Fassbender's expressions and tone make this what it is.. a sad moment when it dawns on Jobs that his neglect, denied paternity, and ultimately "refusal(ed) to love" his daughter is "screwing her(it) up" in the same unfair manner in which his life started.
@darrenthetuber7432 жыл бұрын
I just realized Steve Jobs and Moneyball are companion pieces, a piece pushing many pieces up (Moneyball), and many pieces pushing one piece up (Steve Jobs), both characters have daughters that are sidelined, but the juxtaposing, is empathy and apathy, both improving people while neglecting the person
@ZarconVideo5 жыл бұрын
At the end John realizes the vision Steve has for the Newton: the Bicycle for the Mind is the Iphone. Brilliant scene.
@Stigvandr5 жыл бұрын
The Macintosh is a bicycle for the mind, and every modern computer is built from its solutions. The Iphone goes further, like an automobile for the mind.
@ianhamilton3504 жыл бұрын
@@Stigvandr Would you mind clarifying what those solutions were? I ask because most of what the Macintosh is credited for was actually inspired by systems made by Xerox PARC, which were in turn inspired by the work of Douglas Engelbert. There's a presentation done by him in 1968 retroactively named "The Mother of all Demos" which demonstrated a mouse based interface, video conferencing, and a windowing system, among other things.
@Stigvandr4 жыл бұрын
@@ianhamilton350 Well then it seems you know more about this than me. The big thing that the Mac 2 did was 1. It worked, and 2. It sold. A lot. And through those two things it popularized its solutions, which it does not surprise me was inspired, borrowed or stolen from previous systems.
@OpenMawProductions4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing about the original Macitonish that other computers weren't already doing to one degree or another. What the Macintosh had was Steve Jobs and his Cult of Personality. It had an amazing media campaign built up around it. The Apple 2 was the better computer, and it was more successful over a much longer period of time.
@keiichi81913 жыл бұрын
@@OpenMawProductions I remember owning an Archos Jukebox MP3 player more than a year before the first iPod ever came out. It had tons of storage, had a built-in radio, was completely plug-and-play without the need for any iTunes syncing bullcrap, and could even be used as portable file storage (it was essentially just an external hard drive with a small LCD screen and audio-out ports). In pretty much every way, it was superior to the first iPods. The only thing the iPod had going for it was an Apple logo, which it turns out is enough to make millions of people fork over their cash for over-priced technology. Today, people legitimately think Steve Jobs invented the concept of portable music players (as exemplified by this very film). The Cult of Personality around Jobs is tragically real. Practically NONE of what Steve Jobs "invented" was actually created or even imagined by him. He took what other people were already doing, slapped an Apple logo on it, charged a 50% markup, and legions of zealots trampled each other to buy one while re-writing history to pretend Jobs was some sort of visionary genius who imagined all these new technologies and applications no one else at the time could even conceive of. All Steve Jobs was a genius at was marketing.
@nigelleslie3896 Жыл бұрын
As a film geek this is one of my favourite films. It shows Jobs's genius. No genius at computers like Wozniak. Artist + genius salesman.
@gilbertrios52833 жыл бұрын
This movie was well scripted , well casted and well acted! It brings on feelings of nostalgia and makes you think "what if".... Steve Jobs RIP!
@roxanne48204 жыл бұрын
Aaron Sorkin is honestly one of the greatest screenwriters of all time.
@slothrop47512 жыл бұрын
yes. shame at some point he started to believe his scripts would turn into better movies if they were directed by him too. Jobs was the last great Sorking film because it was directed by a great director instead of a great writer.
@ratonmagico6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Daniels is such a superb actor. Deserves more recognition for his work on many great films.
@drwily82854 жыл бұрын
The writing AND acting AND editing AND score are all completely superb. They're all working in unison here like a perfect engine.
@Buxenwolf7 жыл бұрын
Jeff Daniels deserved at least an oscar nomination
@ChrisWolff20135 жыл бұрын
@Daz Ediss There wasn't a bad performance at all in this movie. The cast was top notch. Sucks they didn't get a SAG nomination for Best Ensemble.
@JuryKing5 жыл бұрын
Acting was subpar, nothing note worthy.
@ryans4133 жыл бұрын
Seth and Jeff both known for comedy did a great job in this
@ttime4413 жыл бұрын
@@ryans413 Jeff is not known for comedy lmao
@mongarcia012 жыл бұрын
The mirrors all over the scene are a great symbol.
@TheCort19712 жыл бұрын
being adopted and going through a ton of foster homes in the 70s this scene hits a bit different for me than a lot of you.
@Kevin-tz2lv2 жыл бұрын
I bet it does. I never went through it, no idea how it must feel
@ПетрИванов-е3ю6 жыл бұрын
Michael Fassbender should have won best actor at oscars.
@antarakmit41144 жыл бұрын
He did
@jimmy2k4o3 жыл бұрын
@@antarakmit4114 no he didn’t DiCaprio took it from him for the reverent
@liavhanegbi27293 жыл бұрын
@@jimmy2k4o tbh DiCaprio deserved it no less
@metalore6 жыл бұрын
Everytime I watch clips of this movie I can only think of Ed Harris' character from The Truman Show.
@dranelemakol4 жыл бұрын
Because they were both lit from below and wore round glasses?
@benjaminmarcelocaballero17062 жыл бұрын
This was the most moving scene of the film... what is fascinating is that is not only about love, but about vision, friendship, entrepreneurship and believing in your ideas.
@AllenHanPR4 жыл бұрын
When Steve went to the restraunt he had no clue Jandali was his father. It was after they found out that he already stopped going. Imagine eating at a restraunt and you had no clue the owner was your father. Goes to show Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If Steve had been raised by his original father. Apple wouldn't exist.
@thenormalone67532 жыл бұрын
Imo a tablet is like the ultimate manifestation of the quote “bicycle for your mind”. It’s friendly, very easy to use, extremely powerful and paired with a pencil, It can be a creative tool too.
@koruki4 жыл бұрын
The right computer IS a bicycle for the mind. 22 years ago I got my first computer it wasn’t a Apple, I just went home after school every day and created different things on it. I now do that as a job.
@catsozen Жыл бұрын
My two most favourite movies of all time is this and The Social Network. And both is what you would call just a "talking movie". Man, the magic people can do with wonderful script, acting, directing, cuts, sound design....the meticulous arrangements of film making elements. What a fine dining experience.
@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 Жыл бұрын
As someone said about those movies were in fact action movies, where they changed the bullets, for words, while all the adrenaline, suspense and emotion were keep it.
@prayash94962 жыл бұрын
“If you’re holding a stylus you cant use the other 5 attached to your wrist” felt like he was foreshadowing what technology was coming, damn this man was a genius
@looneyburgmusic Жыл бұрын
And today, all those years later, the vast majority of people still only use one or two fingers to interact with their phones/tablets... Or they use a stylus
@creativechau2 жыл бұрын
"If you're holding a stylus you can't use the other five that are attached to your wrist." GOOSEBUMPS
@looneyburgmusic2 жыл бұрын
Dumb is more like it. Writing with a stylus is far more natural, and quicker, then tapping out letters with a couple of fingers. As matter of fact, I just wrote this comment with a stylus. The problem wasn't ever the idea of using a stylus was bad, it was the technology wasn't there in the day of the Newton. Now it is.
@AmiliaCaraMia2 жыл бұрын
@@looneyburgmusic why are you like this
@looneyburgmusic2 жыл бұрын
@@AmiliaCaraMia like what? Telling the truth? Jobs had one thing going for him - he most likely was the greatest salesman to ever live. He could have most likely convinced his fans to buy bottled air from Apple. But that didn't mean he was right all the time. And in the case of stylus vs. fingers he was dead wrong. He just convinced people he was right.
@jeanlundi21412 жыл бұрын
Cringe.
@jliller Жыл бұрын
@@looneyburgmusic I think the answer is: it depends on optimizing an individual's dexterity, coordination, and tactile comfort. When I got a smartphone for the first time I got a Motorolla because it had a physical keyboard. I was not only used to a physical keyboard because I've been using them since elementary school, but also because something about repeated use of touch screens make my fingers physically uncomfortable (keyboards do not). If I was older and had not grown up with keyboards, but had instead grown up with penmanship courses in grade school that resulted in me having excellent handwriting then writing with a stylus on a device that can read that handwriting and convert it to text would be an outstanding tool.
@davidpinontoan34297 жыл бұрын
this is art
@themohamedsh286 жыл бұрын
Yoshie Everyone knows that. It portrays the characters accurately though.
@grandohuckabee7 жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs: Did i screw it up Me: Steve, You're human, not a computer.
@Wis_Dom5 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@spinblackcircles3 жыл бұрын
You said that to a fictional character based on a real person you never met?
@PineappledoesnotbelongonPizza25 жыл бұрын
This brings tears to my eyes.
@andresvelasquez90495 жыл бұрын
This is so well crafted and flawlessly paced. Everything else is so well-married to the dialogue.
@shrigadge094 жыл бұрын
That scene...that simple, not over the top, not exaggerated scene where he walks and pick up a newton and accept it, tells so much about his character.. That he is grown, matured and has forgiven.. This movie is brilliant...
@GrammeStudio7 жыл бұрын
if he had turned out to be kind and nice person, people will say he managed to learn his parents and escape the wheel of determinism. if he had turned to be mean and cruel, people will blame it on his parents negligence. why be nice and humane when you can be "successful" and efficient, especially when you can't be bothered by the status quo of "doing the right things"? you could just deflect the nature your personality onto your upbringing.
@davidandersson76427 жыл бұрын
The fact that you're contemplating how to act at all means you've already forfeited the right to claim that your faults are merely the product of your upbringing.
@joewhitehead3 Жыл бұрын
Definitely explains a lot about Jobs. He was basically born into an environment with very little love
@PaddyRoon7 Жыл бұрын
"He'd probably find a reason to sue me." Such a heartbreaking line.
@Alvin_Vivian4 ай бұрын
He would, wouldn't he? It's human nature.
@EdsCollegeLife7 жыл бұрын
Sorkin you are a genius!
@zaphodbogdan336 жыл бұрын
No matter how much people seem to hate this movie, in time, it will become a cult classic. AMAZING!
@VijayKanta6 жыл бұрын
Bogdan Ionut Novac haters will be makers of jobs movie and Ashton kutcher
@aryan77673 жыл бұрын
Who hates this movie wtf it’s so good
@SankofaNYC6 жыл бұрын
A movie of conversations... Brilliant
@SuperWhofan1 Жыл бұрын
5 minutes into this movie I no longer saw Michael Fassbender, I just saw Steve Jobs. That’s an actor
@CrocaHead8 ай бұрын
5:08 I love how Steve's laugh after Sculley accepts the job offer seems like a happy laugh on the surface, but as we know that this is a flashback, it could also be interpreted as an evil laugh and a portrayal of Sculley being haunted by Steve.
@VirtualFunction4 жыл бұрын
It's really admirable - the wonder and potential these people saw in putting computers in the hands of everyone... then you take one look at social media and you have to ask yourself: where did it all go so wrong...
@the_expidition4273 жыл бұрын
That was a byproduct popularity tests in high school humans are stupid this requires a computer
@Groovy_Bruce3 жыл бұрын
Social media. The iPhone didn’t help by massively upping ease of access to the web. Once normies took over the internet it was all destined to suck.
@Groovy_Bruce3 жыл бұрын
@@suzygirl1843 Maybe globally, buy modernity has done nothing but impoverish the west.
@BaileysMariner3 жыл бұрын
4:36 - Rich, college educated and catholic... For me this is Scully realising, it's me. I'm your father.
@HaiLeQuang5 жыл бұрын
This movie was very underrated. It's a wellmade and thorough description of Jobs mentality and characteristic. If he's not so well known and studied.
@mskidi3 жыл бұрын
No it wasnt. This was a very thorough description of what the public thought of Steve and of what Steve inserted as self promoting propaganda.
@HaiLeQuang3 жыл бұрын
@@mskidi what's your point?
@mskidi3 жыл бұрын
@@HaiLeQuang That it was the opposite of well made.
@Bethos1247-Arne Жыл бұрын
one of many things shown in the movie which never happened and this scene took me to swallow because they did not have a talk like this. As part of the movie it is however fantastic. The acting of Michael Fassbender and Jeffrey Daniels is ON POINT. Every nuance right. The photography, the setup, the music, the colors even, everything fits. And is important. Every line uttered is important.
@PanzerMold Жыл бұрын
Sorkin is a once in a century talent. Embrace him while we can.
@morkryan82876 жыл бұрын
I really do hope that Steve really said this. It makes him redeemable in retrospect. Without this type of philosophy, he's really nothing compared to Wozniak
@adamn.41115 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the bicycle for the mind quote, he did really say it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZPCeItrZb-UbMU
@sullivandmitry14163 жыл бұрын
Wozniak made a computer. Jobs made a company. Wozniak can’t be compared to jobs because they are both geniuses in there perspective fields.
@brad45713 жыл бұрын
Woz was the man. Without Woz Jobs is nothing. Of course without Dennis Ritchie they both are garbage.
@TerryTateOfficeLinebacker7602 жыл бұрын
@@brad4571 Dennis Ritchie and the boys at Bell Labs were such geniuses it’s astonishing
@billygowhoop6 жыл бұрын
The Steve Jobs Movie Drinking Game: Take a drink every time someone says, "It's time."
@marathiboi9611 ай бұрын
Even though not looking like jobs, Fassbender killed it in this role
@Cameronna35 жыл бұрын
God damn it the music in this movie is so brilliant
@kevinkatz70273 жыл бұрын
This scene was such an amazing one...
@jisan317films7 жыл бұрын
5:24 That part right there... What led to the iPhone #10YearsofiPhone
@p5rsona6 жыл бұрын
Not really, it's because this guy from microsoft who would hang out with him (he was the husband of his wife's friend) would infuriate him while touting what microsoft was up to. Steve wanted to show him what apple could do.
@amoldhamale32025 жыл бұрын
And they now boast an Apple pencil.
@jodeva2 жыл бұрын
@@amoldhamale3202 because steve is dead
@n_v938611 күн бұрын
5:24 Takes place in 1998 but already hints the iPhone launched in '07 where Steve Jobs says he hates styluses on stage and that we are all born with 10 styluses.
@joshmulligan9503 жыл бұрын
"Things we could have done together" reference to the iPhone sheesh
@t-virus70987 ай бұрын
If you guys ever created something with such passion, Steve acts as a mirror for us. I have to direct a student project, and I feel like Steve at this moment.
@nitinkanals50875 жыл бұрын
This scene is beautiful.
@irishguy2000072 жыл бұрын
The most important part of this scene is the ending when Jobs turns back clicks his fingers and explains why he killed the newton, this explains a lot about how his mind worked in that he left no stone unturned in his pursuit of excellence.
@emich282 жыл бұрын
I am about to put my two week notice in. My boss and I have been doing our thing for 20 years. I picture the last day ending like the end of this scene. “It has to be time.”
@oriamir89943 жыл бұрын
That movie came out after the 2013 version and made it disappear in it's shadow forever.
@bpmotion7 жыл бұрын
Wasnt Scully's fault, in fact, it was the border of directors and shareholders that decided to move him out from macintosh division.
@doubllechief70346 жыл бұрын
It was everyone's fault. Steve was an egotistical, intolerable twat at the time. He would never have become as mature and wise as he did without the massive failure of the Mac...
@jonathangwynne19175 жыл бұрын
It was absolutely Scully’s fault. His job as CEO is to persuade the board and shareholders to do the right thing to make money - to save them from their own greed and lack of vision. Scully couldn’t do that because he had no vision. He was a bean counter. He should have stayed at a company like PepsiCo. He was absolutely the wrong guy to run Apple.
@axx0124 жыл бұрын
BOARD of Directors
@mskidi3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathangwynne1917 What vision? Killing all money making, and better quality products actually, to focus production and marketing on the Macintosh? Jobs was a helpless buffoon back then, couldnt accept the FACT that Macintosh was a failure on all accounts.
@jonathangwynne19173 жыл бұрын
@@mskidi, and yet the Mac saved Apple. Jobs was right and Sully was wrong.
@trandat47 жыл бұрын
So somehow, John Sculley was like a father figure to Jobs ?
@captainquark22726 жыл бұрын
Will Smithsucks Andy warns him about that at the start of the movie. Sorkin just Sorkin
@lettherebelamp51026 жыл бұрын
He'd probably find a way to sue me:(
@chinmaykunkikar4 жыл бұрын
For some reason I keep coming back to this video every few months. The writing of this scene is beautiful. I love the way Steve snaps his fingers, turns around and tells why he killed the Newton after having "that" conversation.
@AR-zl8cy3 жыл бұрын
Explain what he meant by that plz
@ZERO_420693 жыл бұрын
The saddest part is that steve saw john asa father figure, and spent a lot of time with his real dad without his dad knowing
@SubhojitDey3 жыл бұрын
the right computer with $1000 stand and $700 wheel
@blank_stare_productions3 жыл бұрын
These boys can flat out act.
@thehistoricalgamer Жыл бұрын
The stylius comment only works because the movie was made when it was. It makes Jobs out to be this visionary that saw what was wrong with everything... when in reality the stylus was due to technological limitations, touch screens such as they were at the time, were not ready. But it makes for good movie quotes.
@aguyfromnothere2 жыл бұрын
Jobs was a monster when younger, but having kids helps you grow. It helped him be married and grow.
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Жыл бұрын
He still exhibited a lot of shitty behavior as a husband and a father according to what I've read. Chrissann's autobiography _A Bite In the Apple_ and Lisa's autobiography _Small Fry_ and Steve's authorized biography by Walt Isaacson, and anecdotes by employees share a lot insight with stories of awful behavior along with his generosity and kindness.
@AverageGuy-kl1xj Жыл бұрын
Love this movie. Last scene with his daughter always gets me
@AllenHanPR2 жыл бұрын
Steve use to frequent the restaurant his biological Dad's restaurant, both didn't know they were father and son. But they had a great relationship and Steve Jobs would leave great tips, the father said after finding out his customer was his son he gave up for adoption. After Steve found out he stopped going to the restaurant, but Steve said he occasionally drove by and see how the restaurant was doing and would have someone pick up food from there to see if his Dad was still working there. Once his Dad found out, why his best customer had stopped coming and it was his son. He had deep regret he could've had a great relationship with his son. Some of the most influential people came from imperfect upbringings. Babe Ruth was a orphan and so was NFL player Michael Oher and Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates was raised by a single mother, along with Justin Beiber, Britney Spears and Leonardo Dicaprio. That's why if you hear acceptance speeches from them you will hear them say "This is my Mom", instead of parents.
@mszsuper8327 Жыл бұрын
One of an iconic sence from steve life
@christiankarlkarganilla27636 жыл бұрын
I wish this scene had really happened in real life.
@Ahmed-vd3dd5 жыл бұрын
The best scene for every IT enthusiast
@RJSAMCRO5 жыл бұрын
The mind of Steve Jobs the vision for what Apple grew to become, is simply put . Brilliant. RIP Steve we miss you and your innovation and your mind
@looneyburgmusic Жыл бұрын
What/How exactly did Jobs "innovate" anything? The guy, (and Apple), literally stole every "invention" they have ever released. The last 100% original product Apple created was the Apple II And Jobs killed it.
@zachjollimore43393 жыл бұрын
The ironic thing is, the right computer isn't an apple computer.
@stacymitchell18904 жыл бұрын
5:37 Things we could've done together God the thing's we could've done
@TanielaLigairi3 жыл бұрын
kinda signalling the future arrival of the iPhone
@AR-zl8cy3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain
@marksuckaberg8966 Жыл бұрын
*Steve Jobs* : "The right computer will be a bicycle for the mind." *Me* : (watches the whole of society stare moronically at their iPhone watching KZbin/Tiktok/Snapchat all day long doing nothing productive) "....Um....I don't think your bicycle is working the way you expected..."