The Core Four Problem & Maple Leafs Free Agency Outlook

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SteveDangle

SteveDangle

5 күн бұрын

Steve Dangle goes over the Toronto Maple leafs cap situation and explains why the Core Four is causing more harm than good. Then, he shares who he believes Toronto should be targeting in free agency.
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@craigharrison5406
@craigharrison5406 3 күн бұрын
At this point they are running it into the ground not running it back
@DDWyss
@DDWyss 3 күн бұрын
They're running it back into the ground. 🤣
@Frameboy71
@Frameboy71 3 күн бұрын
Only if you think they are any worse off than almost every other team with stars.
@chrisi1466
@chrisi1466 3 күн бұрын
@@Frameboy71well they are worse off, no other team has close to 4 players making %53 of the cap.
@JarradBruessel32
@JarradBruessel32 3 күн бұрын
​@@Frameboy71tell me, how much money does colorado pay for their top 4 players? Is it 46 million? Nope. It's 37 million. That's 2 forwards and 2 dmen btw.
@EnglishFuture-xg1gw
@EnglishFuture-xg1gw 3 күн бұрын
well said
@jaikohaal
@jaikohaal 3 күн бұрын
Perry. Get Perry then scratch him in the finals. I’m a Bruins fan 😈
@teeganreed7989
@teeganreed7989 3 күн бұрын
They won’t win a Cup, but they will get to the final
@contratoronto5868
@contratoronto5868 3 күн бұрын
Was joking with my brother that the Perry Curse is the answer to the Leafs Curse. Won't get a cup, but we'll make it to the final. The only complication is that the only time Perry hasn't made it past the 1st round in the last 5 seasons...has been against the Leafs, and no-one beats the Leafs like the Leafs. Either way - worth a shot😂
@jaikohaal
@jaikohaal 3 күн бұрын
@@teeganreed7989 They’ll probably go up 2-0 against whatever team Nic Robertson goes to and lose the series in 7 with him scoring the game winner
@jaikohaal
@jaikohaal 3 күн бұрын
@@contratoronto5868 You can’t lose to the Leafs if you join them… actually you can 😂
@nickjugo
@nickjugo 3 күн бұрын
@@teeganreed7989 this man wants to curse us more than we already are
@paull6156
@paull6156 3 күн бұрын
Give the core 5 all 88 million dollars then hire volunteers from Toronto beer leagues to play as interns. 😂
@jchristner82
@jchristner82 3 күн бұрын
And Dave Ayres
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 3 күн бұрын
​@@jchristner82 And he works for MSE, too!
@leafsfan1539
@leafsfan1539 2 күн бұрын
I’m pretty good at D I can help for free beer
@neonwired4978
@neonwired4978 2 күн бұрын
or we could use our prospects instead of giving them away to be stars on other teams.
@Nathanielhiggerson66
@Nathanielhiggerson66 Күн бұрын
@@neonwired4978gotta give to keep up this salary structure lol
@zomzo_78
@zomzo_78 3 күн бұрын
53% for 4 guys tell you a lot about this team
@Halo3clanFSOG
@Halo3clanFSOG 3 күн бұрын
Whats crazy is if you add in Morgan Rielly since he's their other expensive player is their cap hit is probably 60%or something, I don't have the numbers but would love to know how his contract impacts things. It's not good for the Leafs spending (probably) 60% on 5 players. Madness
@zomzo_78
@zomzo_78 3 күн бұрын
@@Halo3clanFSOG yeah I was thinking the same thing, this is why the leaves aren't able to produce as much as other teams because the use all their cap for a few good players.
@Rick-C-117
@Rick-C-117 3 күн бұрын
Good job dumbass Kyle Dubas.
@PP-rr1gz
@PP-rr1gz 3 күн бұрын
@@Rick-C-117and Shanny
@ace2585
@ace2585 3 күн бұрын
It's over
@pickaport
@pickaport 3 күн бұрын
Offence gets all the glory, but Defence wins the game. 🏆
@nonoman305
@nonoman305 3 күн бұрын
You say this right after the Panthers won the cup
@robrick9361
@robrick9361 3 күн бұрын
@@nonoman305 Are you saying he's wrong?
@pickaport
@pickaport 3 күн бұрын
I’m a leafs fan. I don’t know if I’m ever right? 🤪
@nonoman305
@nonoman305 3 күн бұрын
@@robrick9361 I'm saying there is many ways to win
@jameson1239
@jameson1239 3 күн бұрын
@@nonoman305that literally proves his point Offensively the panthers are outgunned by the Oilers but they only allowed 1 goal
@jasonvoorhees8545
@jasonvoorhees8545 3 күн бұрын
Leafs are on the decline. Their day was 2 years ago now. The core is dysfunctional and Tavares is too old. They will not do what needs to be done either.
@CAPDude44
@CAPDude44 3 күн бұрын
100%. The team needs a rebuild. It reminds me somewhat of the Detroit Tigers and Red Wings of the early 2010s. Clinging desperately to stars that take up a massive chunk of salary, missing on or trading away prospects, and only barely making the playoffs. A sad slow decline into mediocrity.
@davemago8880
@davemago8880 3 күн бұрын
Thays why paying them big miney up front qas the worse idea then again its a front dor the league to not have the leafs or any Canadian team win anything ... The fix is on
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 3 күн бұрын
@@davemago8880 There's no "fix:" it's all down to bad management and bad ownership
@krazyshady902
@krazyshady902 3 күн бұрын
They aren't on the decline at all lol. Their best players are in their prime. It's just a matter of freeing up some cap space and building around them
@Speed3134
@Speed3134 3 күн бұрын
@@krazyshady902 thankyou finally someone who knows hockey 😂
@Tyekiller115
@Tyekiller115 3 күн бұрын
IMO domi is a need to come back Bertuzzi is a bit of a less need but still would be nice
@paulthompson8793
@paulthompson8793 3 күн бұрын
Domi at a reasonable price....
@nerdingout3560
@nerdingout3560 3 күн бұрын
Shanahan is the problem at this point
@JFerg393
@JFerg393 3 күн бұрын
This.
@EnglishFuture-xg1gw
@EnglishFuture-xg1gw 3 күн бұрын
8 years on
@RockyMountain-cg4zv
@RockyMountain-cg4zv 3 күн бұрын
It is beyond me why this clown hasn't been fired, he is actively holding the team back. If they sign Marner, it is 100% this dipshit that drove that through and I would not be surprised if Brad resigns if he does that.
@ashleygosse13
@ashleygosse13 3 күн бұрын
I agree 100%. He should have been gone loooooooong ago
@ThatsBadTV
@ThatsBadTV 3 күн бұрын
No way lol
@maxrcrypto
@maxrcrypto 3 күн бұрын
The Leaf players put themselves above the team. No team is going to win with this culture
@OlDirtyBaron
@OlDirtyBaron 2 күн бұрын
Is that because of the players or because of coaching? All a player can do is play how the coach is telling them to play.
@bdwheeler3068
@bdwheeler3068 3 күн бұрын
The leafs always have the same problem. Need defense and need a goaltender. You would think they would figure it out by now
@JohnCherry69
@JohnCherry69 3 күн бұрын
They have. The Dubas theory of we can outscore our 20+ deficiencies was let go, and Marner has a NMC. Its like sitting in the waiting room
@RB-oc7ti
@RB-oc7ti 3 күн бұрын
Goalies are voodoo! Don’t break the bank on one. Develop your own - which, the Leafs have been poor at doing… Woll is actually very talented and could be great…but , he hasn’t shown to stay healthy yet. Fingers crossed.
@bolsymasa7042
@bolsymasa7042 2 күн бұрын
​@@RB-oc7ti bold claim when Florida just won the cup with a 10M goaltender
@rmyoung87
@rmyoung87 3 күн бұрын
Right now, Leafs fortunes run through Florida and Boston. You either have to get through their defenses or be able to have one better than theirs. Both are much easier said than done but the former is more plausible right now.
@thefozzybear
@thefozzybear 3 күн бұрын
Sad News Sergei Berezin passed away at only 52 years old. RIP.
@HT-jj5sx
@HT-jj5sx 3 күн бұрын
Matt Roy should be the RD that the Leafs target.
@spongerobroundshoes2736
@spongerobroundshoes2736 3 күн бұрын
I'd buy that jersey
@djllewellyn6277
@djllewellyn6277 3 күн бұрын
Tanev. Roy, Montour, Pesce, Carrier, Hakkanpaa...Any one of those guys would be perfect, especially Roy. To get more than one would be even better. The Leafs have a change to improve their blueline quite a bit this year for nothing but cap space. I'd have no issues offering Roy Brodie's deal or even paying a little more. Tanev is awesome, but his age and injuries make that harder to do. Montour will want the moon and likely won't leave Florida. This team needs dmen that can move the puck to the forwards. Year after year they fail to score when it counts.
@dw1784
@dw1784 3 күн бұрын
Treliving to Woll: "We want you to be our long-term starter" (guaranteed money? Woll signs immediately). Treliving to Jones: "We want you to be our 3rd string goalie. And just to entice you more, we just signed Woll again, so you're basically going to be our backup for half the year whileWoll is on IR again. Does that sound fair?" (Jones signs immediately)
@pickaport
@pickaport 3 күн бұрын
At least get a player that will put Marchand through the glass.
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 3 күн бұрын
Getting Marchand for the Leafs is a good idea; some grit, now that these buffoons got rid of Kadri
@pickaport
@pickaport 3 күн бұрын
@@melvynobrien6193 I might even sign a deal with the devil for a cup. 😈
@TRUMPONTHEGO
@TRUMPONTHEGO Күн бұрын
​@melvynobrien6193 I hate him but fuck it ❤😂
@3flavourscornetto237
@3flavourscornetto237 3 күн бұрын
many compliments to u steve love the leafs coverage, keep em coming and we will all keep watching
@ArticulateAnodyne
@ArticulateAnodyne 3 күн бұрын
The leafs need a starting goalie
@isaacfernandes560
@isaacfernandes560 3 күн бұрын
The Leafs need a whole new team!
@darrin173
@darrin173 3 күн бұрын
Take brosouit he is a great goalie, jets had the best tandem of goalkeepers this season, he could be a starter on alot of teams...including Toronto
@teapea8184
@teapea8184 2 күн бұрын
3 good defencemen also. They need to restructure the whole team if they want to succeed. Best course might just be to wait out Marner and tank next year. Or then retain on Marner and trade him to a contender and start building the backend this year and with Tavares of the books next year go all in.
@GamerPastHisPrime
@GamerPastHisPrime 3 күн бұрын
The only thing I think people don’t talk about enough… is who is ready to take a step, and what does that do to some contracts. Knies, Robertson, maybe even Cowan… if they are all making low dollars and you can get rid of players like Jarnkrok, Kampf, even Reaves… that offsets some of that “you have less money to surround this core with” argument a bit. I agree it’s hard to run it back with this group for another year… but if this coach can really change these players approach… if we can focus on bringing in defenders, and Woll really is the guy, and Stolarz can back up effectively… I think it’s worth the risk to be able to keep Marner a part of this group when JTs contract comes off the books. Whatever shortfalls we uncover this season under a new head coach, you address in 2025. I know players like Marner can be frustrating in the playoffs, but a new voice may be all he needs. I would hate to lose him and regret it like we do with Hyman. Players like Marner don’t come around very often.
@ThatsBadTV
@ThatsBadTV 3 күн бұрын
I thought keefe was the new voice for Marner
@Olddogger
@Olddogger 3 күн бұрын
I like what you’re saying, but you need guys like Kampf. Wasn’t he our go to face off guy. And PK specialist. Scored a couple of timely goals.
@bertczombos7259
@bertczombos7259 2 күн бұрын
Leafs lost Hyman because they spent all the $$ on Marner. (yes and Matthews and Tavares as well) No they aren't going to win a hockey trade involving Marner. But to pay a guy $11 mil now AND then extend him when he doesn't produce in playoffs ?? Elite level salary requires results - and they haven't been there for a few yrs. And yes he will do well somewhere else. But the goal is a cup, and this group has had its chance. its about the cap space
@ThatsBadTV
@ThatsBadTV 2 күн бұрын
@@bertczombos7259 there window closed either after they choked vs Montreal or Florida they can still salvage it if they ever grew a pair
@user-mn7mg1ie5b
@user-mn7mg1ie5b 3 күн бұрын
I hope they sign Ilya Lyubushkin it would be great to keep him ❤
@jaykay1516
@jaykay1516 3 күн бұрын
The logic in this video is so accurate!!! How come their management doesnt get it???
@Pepe-pr3tr
@Pepe-pr3tr 3 күн бұрын
You can talk about the core 4 but I think the coaching staff make a big difference.
@fredsystra7584
@fredsystra7584 Күн бұрын
they’ve had multiple coaches under these 4
@savrajsingh5373
@savrajsingh5373 3 күн бұрын
Really like Matt Roy. He gets a 5x5
@gdavho8778
@gdavho8778 3 күн бұрын
Excellent rundown of the possibilities! Should be a fun Summer.
@no_drew
@no_drew 3 күн бұрын
As a massive London Knights fan and from the area where he is from, do you think Easton Cowan can make the Leafs next year, I think he can but I am extremely biased
@JohnCherry69
@JohnCherry69 3 күн бұрын
Similiar path as Marner. Too good for OHL and can't go to AHL...Let him play the minimum 9 or 10 games and go from there
@CDTAuto
@CDTAuto 3 күн бұрын
Minten too!
@Speed3134
@Speed3134 3 күн бұрын
Cowan will be on the team for sure
@paulgiardetti1579
@paulgiardetti1579 3 күн бұрын
Great job Steve, should do an episode on if they rolled it back, to demonstrate your point
@blizzrdplays
@blizzrdplays 3 күн бұрын
Decided to make my own roster for fun. Contracts are based on research so might not be completely accurate: FORWARDS: Lost: Bertuzzi Resigned: Max Domi (4 x 3.3M), Nicholas Robertson (2 x 1.1M), Connor Dewar (2 x 1M) New: N/A DEFENCE: Lost: Edmundson, Lyubushkin, Giordano Resigned: Liljegren (2 x 2.2M) New: Matt Roy (5 x 5.6M), Sean Walker (4 x 4.6M) GOALIES: Lost: Samsonov, Jones Resigned: N/A New: Stolarz (2 x 1.9M)
@paulgiardetti1579
@paulgiardetti1579 3 күн бұрын
For example run it back with all of them, and then what options are available to fill the lineup, that would demonstrate your point
@eatingsnowman
@eatingsnowman 3 күн бұрын
100% gotta sign Corey Perry, making the finals is better than losing in 7 in the first round
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 3 күн бұрын
No way, Jose
@BahamutBreaker
@BahamutBreaker 3 күн бұрын
Four players taking up 53% of a team’s salary cap is nuts. Most NHL teams have 22 or 23 rostered players. This means Toronto needs to roster 18 players using just 47% of their cap. That’s (on average) 2.6% of the cap for each of 18 players for the 2024-25 season. That’s $2.3M per player, for 18 players. Every dollar over $2.3M on any of those 18 players also has to be NOT spent above $2.3M for another of those 18 players.
@speed150mph
@speed150mph Күн бұрын
I agree. What the team does next is fully dependent on what happens with Mitch in the next 2 weeks, because that will dictate how much cap we have to work with. I think that’s why the only real move they’ve made so far is resign Joe Woll which has zero implications in this seasons cap situation. Once they have figured out if Marner is moving or not, that’s when we will see major moves happening.
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 2 күн бұрын
I think Bert would like to come back at probably the same cap hit but longer term this time like maybe 4yrs. Domi would come back at $4-4.5mil for around 4yrs as well. U can’t expect ppl to take random heavy discounts and also expect them to sign these short term deals…
@Vepsis
@Vepsis 3 күн бұрын
I'd rather see Montour and especially Roy over Tanev becauce of their ages. but Montour could only be fit in if Leafs manage to trade marner with return that doesn't bring much of salary and are either young players or/and high draft picks.
@jadon3776
@jadon3776 3 күн бұрын
Do a vid on what the team would look like if we didn’t make all the stupid trades that screwed us. Just do the brutal ones. Would be interesting what our team would look like with Seguin, Kadri, marchment, Moore) etc but would be even more interesting to know which players and subsequent moves would have never happened if you cancelled the trade in the first place.
@brandonburgess1990
@brandonburgess1990 3 күн бұрын
Marshall Rifai is LH/LD Steve
@testecalle3378
@testecalle3378 3 күн бұрын
Justin Holl is the only rookie defenceman in League history to score in their debut game and then the following game.
@brendangabriel7650
@brendangabriel7650 3 күн бұрын
I hate when everyone says but the cap is going up cause every other team also now has cap space to work with and doesnt help
@andyf313
@andyf313 3 күн бұрын
The cap is indeed going up. But you can't save ownership from improperly spending the money. It's not a lie. It's fund mismanagement. My heart goes out to you & leaf nation.
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 3 күн бұрын
BAD MANAGEMENT AND BAD OWNERSHIP have hampered the Leafs for decades.
@joshualeblanc9072
@joshualeblanc9072 3 күн бұрын
Not saying they should do this, but what would the core 4 cap % look like like in 2 years if Marner signs for 11.5M and JT signs for like 5M, and let’s say cap goes up another 4.5M?
@jaykay1516
@jaykay1516 3 күн бұрын
The MATH IS ACCURATE!!! 😢😢😢 THIS BLOWS MY MIND! MORE $$$ and less to use on other/new players!
@Michael-pg7rv
@Michael-pg7rv 3 күн бұрын
You should have combined those two charts with the numbers side by side with the percentages for each player. It would be way easier for everyone to follow along.
@sotakoira1390
@sotakoira1390 3 күн бұрын
I think that the real issue with the core is just that in total they are overpaid. They are all sitting within 12 most highest paid players in the league. Are they all top 12 best players within the league, don't think so. Compare that to four players like Barkov, Rantanen, Makar and Draisaitl, who would all be cheaper than any member of core 4. Leafs really needed more cap friendly deals.
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 3 күн бұрын
The curse of DUBAS remains to haunt the team; too much money for four players.
@Tyekiller115
@Tyekiller115 3 күн бұрын
This offseason is gonna be intense
@tr41l3rp4rkb0ys
@tr41l3rp4rkb0ys 3 күн бұрын
Watch it be how it always is , okay guys were keeping the exact same team as the last 8 season with the core 5 , and we will add in 3 more bottom six guys and we will be golden :) lol
@scottmiller8617
@scottmiller8617 3 күн бұрын
They will spin it as " we didn't like the offers for Marner, so we decided to resign him at 13 million".
@tr41l3rp4rkb0ys
@tr41l3rp4rkb0ys 3 күн бұрын
@@scottmiller8617 oh ye and people will be dumb enough to expect a different outcome , like marner and the core 5 here will finally find there balls and play playoff style hockey and actually give af lol
@robbi6801
@robbi6801 3 күн бұрын
It won't be for Toronto, they will just stay the same
@AwesomeZach
@AwesomeZach 3 күн бұрын
I think if not Montour the leafs should go after Alex carrier or Sean Walker. Walker gets shots through very well and plays a sound defensive game. Carrier is a really good defensive player, not a ton of points but I think he’d play very well with rielly.
@dsc4178
@dsc4178 3 күн бұрын
Need to draft a #1 defenceman still. Unlikely until 2027. And Tavares made a ton of money in TO so far, so he may take #2 mil for 2 years. Colorado had their Matthews/Marner/Nylander forwards in MacKinnon/Landeskog/Rantanen yet still went out and drafted Makar and Byram, so.....
@patrickoneill646
@patrickoneill646 3 күн бұрын
What about are old Pal Jack Campbel I would think that the Oilers would like to move him and might retain a lot. He played well for the Leaf's and he is good in backup situations.
@lornemccoy7653
@lornemccoy7653 29 минут бұрын
If the Leafs are forced to keep the core 4, then this year will be a repeat of the last few years. I like Joseph, and a couple of unfortunate injuries doesn't make him injury prone. I felt Nylander should have been traded a couple of years ago because of his inability to fight in the corner. One needs to go to have any chance to acquire better defense.
@cryptocode88
@cryptocode88 Күн бұрын
Cowan- ELC Minten- ELC Knies- last year of ELC Webber- ELC Niemela- ELC. Let’s bring up the youth and sign some veterans and continue as is… I would love to trade Marner but we all know it’s not going to happen if shanny is still in top office
@77hoolie
@77hoolie 3 сағат бұрын
The other risk - how many players do we lose to the new professional 3 on 3 league ? Apparently their salary cap is pretty BIG.
@stevewhite958
@stevewhite958 3 күн бұрын
Don’t need a back up goalie, get sarros
@Charlie-cz8tf
@Charlie-cz8tf 3 күн бұрын
2 many numbers... Holy shit,.. lots to think about..
@MartinFWhite
@MartinFWhite 21 сағат бұрын
No idea how the Kings didn't trade Roy at the deadline. That was a first round pick, and they weren't going anywhere. Not sure if the Maple Leafs get him, but he will be great there.
@tomkelley4119
@tomkelley4119 3 күн бұрын
I’m curious if this changes your opinion on the Tavares deal. Was it a mistake at the time, or did it only become a mistake with COVID? I’m personally on the “mistake at the time” wagon, but I’m curious on your opinion.
@66balsam
@66balsam 3 күн бұрын
Leafs don’t play worth crap last season. Sure they might ralleye in the final minutes to win, but overall team play was miserable and tough to watch. Can Berube change this? I surely hope so, I always felt Keefe was the weak link with this group, guess we will find out this season. I foresee Marner returning, but possibly moving Tavares if they can persuade him to play elsewhere…
@iopunderstealth
@iopunderstealth 3 күн бұрын
The only analysis I am interested in watching...
@viperswhip
@viperswhip 15 сағат бұрын
You can have a core 4, but it should be a goalie and 1 or 2 centers, and a Dman, if not two centers, then 2 dmen.
@asharpbflat7179
@asharpbflat7179 2 күн бұрын
DeBrusk is the definition of integrity. He's not gonna sign for a backstabber franchise, with media/fans trashing his value the second he makes one mistake. He's got self esteem. He'll love to keep destroying the Leafs. And all of this "we don't wanna lowball player-xy, but can we please lowball him, cause we're too stupid to manage our cap" all of that crap can go to die. If this franchise ever wants to be relevant ever again, they're gonna cut this BS hating and lowballing culture entirely. PR communication: talk to CJ and JDB only (they seem to have integrity, knowledge and don't hate on players), cut off all other T.O. media people and start working like a serious franchise.
@ccrrocks
@ccrrocks 2 күн бұрын
"Relevant " ? That's hilarious.
@stephenfacca6703
@stephenfacca6703 2 күн бұрын
The core 4 have to be able to see the writing on the wall. If they want to win, it's unfortunately not going to be all together with the leafs. If Marner is asked to waive his no-trade, and if he has any competitive bone in his body, he should be willing to consider other teams. I know it will suck to leave your hometown but right now it's the best thing for everybody.
@GospelTestimony
@GospelTestimony 2 күн бұрын
53.01% of the cap going to the "core 4". This is precisely why Marner must be traded.
@CaleMakar-yr9ol
@CaleMakar-yr9ol 2 күн бұрын
So many good players to fix leafs but would have to trade 1 or 2 of top 4 contracts. Is gm capable of doing all this probably not
@Krokodilius
@Krokodilius 3 күн бұрын
signing tanev seems like it'd work out about as well as muzzin.
@philthegamer9634
@philthegamer9634 3 күн бұрын
Atleast they don't need to empty the cupboards and trade away a 1st to get him.
@mattheww7846
@mattheww7846 Күн бұрын
Muzzin was great here
@Krokodilius
@Krokodilius Күн бұрын
ya...they won so many titles with him before he was hurt every season.
@mattheww7846
@mattheww7846 Күн бұрын
@@Krokodilius Yeah because players aren’t good acquisitions unless they win the cup and stay perfectly healthy after 31 Ekholm is a bum, even more so if he gets hurt and falls off as a result
@MIRSTROY
@MIRSTROY 3 күн бұрын
After being a leafs fan since 1998, fk the leafs and the organization, its a popularity contest at this point, the owners are simply about making money and its never going to change, the leafs will never win the cup. Im done.
@TheBalls2thewalls
@TheBalls2thewalls 2 күн бұрын
Join the habs, our future is getting bright while darkness looms over the Leafs 😊
@normbeers
@normbeers 3 күн бұрын
Steve, if you're going to run us through a bunch of numbers, it would be smart to have Producer Drew put them on the screen as you say them. 🙂
@alpeshdesai5821
@alpeshdesai5821 3 күн бұрын
What about Sean Durzi I mean they select him in the draft?
@PP-rr1gz
@PP-rr1gz 3 күн бұрын
No more guys over the age of 35 please. It’s a young men’s game. The Leafs need to get younger and faster, guys that don’t have a big name, but can forecheck and are willing to work their butts off. I’d rather give the spots to some of the Marlies. You know they’ll be motivated to try and stay on the team. We need more Bobby McMann stories.
@krazyshady902
@krazyshady902 3 күн бұрын
The salary cap and management overpaying has screwed this team
@mrsuarez430
@mrsuarez430 3 күн бұрын
Bro as a lifelong Panthers fan it's so nuts being mentioned so much crazy shit hahaha hang in there get some depth alot of talent in Toronto
@hellsSG
@hellsSG Күн бұрын
If Faber wasn't the future captain and heart and soul of Minnesota, i would almost package him.
@DrowzyDan
@DrowzyDan 3 күн бұрын
I am less mad about running it back then the potential of shitty contracts being signed that cannot be undone after Shanahan gets fired for doing them.
@cameronmccord2996
@cameronmccord2996 2 күн бұрын
What did you play in hockey again ?
@knganth3m
@knganth3m 2 күн бұрын
Oilers fan here, I was a leaf fan also my second Canadian team, but when they got tavares and the entire summer of hearing marner B-tchin about leaving over seas, I have so much disrespect for the leafs…. When they get rid of marners and tavares I’ll think about being a fan of the leafs (second team)
@oliverquach9614
@oliverquach9614 3 күн бұрын
I guess it’s a hot take, but if we can’t upgrade goaltending via trade then we should take Samsonov over the bonafide backups in UFA. Give him a year under Berubes staff
@thispagenolongerexists1096
@thispagenolongerexists1096 17 сағат бұрын
So the Leafs will sign Chris Tanev who can't wipe his ass without getting injured and was a product of a great defensive team. I guess they need more players for the LTIR. #TradeMarner
@captbloodbeard
@captbloodbeard 3 күн бұрын
Red Wings fan, I don't want you guys to take Perron. He's not going to help your Power Play as much you think he might, age has just caught up with him too much. But he would help you guys immensely in the playoffs, and he's such a fantastic leader. Honestly, I think he makes a lot of sense for the Leafs, which is why I don't want you to have him. His impact was enormous this past season in Detroit, even if it wasn't shown on the stat sheet.
@paulelson3277
@paulelson3277 2 күн бұрын
Demko for Nylander you get the goalie you need and free up 6 ish million towards a dman you need we get a winger for petterson AND FREE UP CAP SPACE ( by not signing Gunntzal and keeping Demko) which frees up cap space to sign big z and possibly add Toffolie
@4.0.7.7
@4.0.7.7 3 күн бұрын
Hakanpaa is 6’5 not 6’7
@Puffindefenceforce
@Puffindefenceforce 3 күн бұрын
really fallacious to assume that keeping the entire crew together for a year is a waste but getting rid of marner isn't. You don't just replace marner with a snap of a finger
@mariodesimone3236
@mariodesimone3236 2 күн бұрын
These salaries for 4 guys is insane.
@ashleygosse13
@ashleygosse13 3 күн бұрын
If they resign Marner, get ready to not make a cup run for another 4+ years.
@willbobig
@willbobig 3 күн бұрын
Lol. Appreciate the effort for this video, but in the end it doesn’t matter. These guys will never amount to much.
@cheddarandsourcream
@cheddarandsourcream 3 күн бұрын
The leafs need big steps from Robertson and Liljegren (if they keep him) Knies is a good player but need him to be more active offensively. Also need a goalie obviously but shouldn’t overpay for a saros at this point. Could be one of the teams kicking tires on Gibson although probably not too hard due to cap hit. Should be seriously pitching a pesce, skjei or montour in free agency but again that’s a big cap hit to take on with the core 4 making so much.
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 3 күн бұрын
Looks like domi Bertuzzi may go to free agency
@sabref4i290
@sabref4i290 3 күн бұрын
I wish we had a Steve Dangle Buffalo Sabres edition
@oliverquach9614
@oliverquach9614 3 күн бұрын
Looks like the only real change this year will be our coaching staff with bigger changes in 2025 after JTs contract ends.
@talondavid9408
@talondavid9408 3 күн бұрын
sign Ethan Bear and is a right hand shot
@allenmiller8052
@allenmiller8052 3 күн бұрын
LEAFS SHOULD BY THEIR OWN GOLF COURSE !!!!
@isaacfernandes560
@isaacfernandes560 3 күн бұрын
At this point is cheaper than booking one! ;)
@Oldmanflyfishing
@Oldmanflyfishing 3 күн бұрын
Lets stop calling them the core four and start calling them what they really are, THE HEARTLESS FOUR!!!
@jonathanc6101
@jonathanc6101 3 күн бұрын
"If they donthis again, they ain't gonna be very good." Lol That is simply incorrect. Lots of things can happen
@jaystyx5134
@jaystyx5134 3 күн бұрын
Let's not forget about the Tampa Bay players getting old. I can see them starting a rebuild soon and an interesting target in my mind is Victor Hedman. I wonder what it would take to get him.
@markmakuch
@markmakuch 3 күн бұрын
Tanev, Talbot, Perron, Lubushkin. No Bert. Maybe Max.
@Argent3333
@Argent3333 2 күн бұрын
Steve all good points but the top eastern conference teams all have the same issues, will Boston, Tampa, Carolina, Rangers improve and how will they? Teams are in the same boat as the Leafs with the cap, Future value I can see in Marner, I don’t see the value in Tavares. Why is the public out cry not focused on him?
@DeletedUser015
@DeletedUser015 3 күн бұрын
Anunoby makes more per year than the 4 of them combined Lol
@oldhab7890
@oldhab7890 3 күн бұрын
Marner will play for the Leafs this year. The Leafs will gamble that Berube's coaching will make them a better playoff team. After the playoff the Leafs will have a reason to either let Marner walk or resign him long term (hopefully without a NMC) On the positive side. the Core 4 guarantees another 100+ point regular season. I think Domi resigns which means Bertuzzi will not come back due to cap space issues. The Leafs will use whatever cap space they have to get bargain bin players to fill out the core given the cap crunch. The Marlies really need to develop some defencemen. This would be an areas to focus on in the upcoming draft.
@user-yh1hc9mh4l
@user-yh1hc9mh4l 3 күн бұрын
add in Reilly and you have 61.5% of the cap with 5 players
@user-fc2tj8lf2m
@user-fc2tj8lf2m 3 күн бұрын
Domi at 4×3.5 would be great.
@donniedoesdishes
@donniedoesdishes 3 күн бұрын
nobody is signing domi oh except the leafs will overpay for failure
@kimepp2216
@kimepp2216 3 күн бұрын
Montour and Tanev should be the Dman targets. Keep Samsonov, he was good enough. Sell your 2027 and 2028 first picks to get Calgary or someone else to eat some or all of Tavares salary. Alternatively trading Marner for Crosby might be doable. This gives Sid one more kick at a cup and potentially bringing the cup back to Canada might interest him. I wonder if the Sharks would trade this years first pick for Marner.
@CNRlegends
@CNRlegends 2 күн бұрын
If the leafs don't consider Schwartz ill be baffled. May be a bit bias here but as a blues fan hes done A LOT.
@damiancryptocom7078
@damiancryptocom7078 3 күн бұрын
Steve we are so screwed man. The FA crop stinks. I'm finding it harder and harder to imagine a Marner trade will happen and shake up this core. I feel like it's going to be another year of running it back to my seasonal playoff depression.
@cahg3871
@cahg3871 3 күн бұрын
If I wasn’t depressed about the Bud’s future before watching this upload,I sure am now.Thanks Steve,you’re a pal.😂 All joking aside,I subscribed and yes I would like David Peron,but do we have the clout to swing a deal?
@teapea8184
@teapea8184 2 күн бұрын
Tbh trading Matthews wouldn't be the worst idea cause he is being paid so much. And there will surely be takers unlike Marner without retention.
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