This Is How Race Blocks Should Be Machined!

[@johndoran3274]

How crazy things have advanced. I remember my first block that I had machined, and watched the machinist dance around it with calipers and straight edges, scribbling on a piece of brown paper, and rubber malleting the machine into position. That thing is amazing.

[@sjhanson1690]

I’m a retired Auto Machinist from several years ago, and it’s so nice to see how some of the machines have advanced in ways I always thought they should. Good job Rottler and Sunnen and Peterson etc…

[@Bootchair]

The wealth of knowledge this channel puts out is amazing, this is candy for my analytical brain. Thanks a bunch Steve and crew. I love this behind the scenes stuff.

[@hdogjones1845]

If you like this channel , you’ll love Real Good At Doin Stuff!

[@Bootchair]

@@hdogjones1845 I’ll be sure to check them out, thanks for the recommendation!

[@picklefart]

@@hdogjones1845 I will second that comment. Pete is such an unassuming and humble guy. I'm fairly certain he is also a level 20 wizard lol.

[@landscapingspecialist]

Yes. Agreed

[@AB-80X]

If anybody would ever complain about that amount of concave depth, they would have flunked math. It’s 0,005 of a millimetre. The block will bend twist and move more than that under high loads. Heck, the gasket will be less accurate than that lol. Great job.

[@FoolOfATuque]

Breathe on it and it would move that. 😂

[@a1machinista1]

I'm gonna have to disagree with your math..

[@AB-80X]

Nothing beats working with a company that has a dedicated and professional journeyman millwright. The training and handover is everything. Ace!:)

[@duck2500]

This channel is super underrated. The attention to the little details and the super in depth explanations are awesome. Bravo 👏

[@edsmachine93]

Very nice Steve. Congratulations on getting your New Rottler CNC. Getting it set up and operational and training is awesome. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.

[@tabbott429]

Interesting to see the specialty fixtures for engine blocks. I used to run 4 axis CNC mills machining weld gun castings and various parts for the robot welders. I learned so much and even learned a CNC router which we used to make the patterns for the castings. I would draw the part in 3D from a blueprint and apply toolpath software to generate machine code to literally carve the pattern in 2 halves from a block of bondo like material. So glad i did that when i was young in the 90s working 55 hours a week. CNCs are amazing machines. I was night shift foreman and we'd occasionally have time to make our own stuff too.

[@SoGoodRc1]

Oh beryllium copper castings. I've done thousands brother weld gun castings are nasty parts nobody told about.

[@chrisabell5008]

Incredible piece of machinery. I have no experience with this sort of work, but the way you explain it is easy to digest. Thanks!

[@SquarebodyStuff]

This is awesome. Thanks for sharing with us.

[@mjay6245]

Really appreciate you Steve. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge for us likeminded gear heads who want to absorb everything engine related lol Also question..how is the space between the cylinders so thin compared to how thick the outside walls are, yet they don't break there?

[@DjMatt97]

the pressure between the cylinders is equal, so it balances the outwards force out on one another

[@makadafaka]

I love what you're showing, I used to work for lukovich racing and Mike Moran and brought those techniques back to Hawaii, but on old equipment, such as a storm Vulcan surfacer, ck 10 hone, so everything was more manual, my hands never left the machine's

[@Jet2416-Reloading]

That is a really nice machine. It should save a lot of time and refine all your block machine work once all the machinists get accustomed to its operations. It looks like that "junk" block has been dry decked. It's the first dry decked LS block I have ever seen. Whoever did the work did a nice job. I'd love to see SME dry deck a block you intend to build.

[@austinmusolff7852]

You could run a spring pass at Z0 just have to watch for vibration or SF being off. Should fix any flatness issues. .0002 isn’t much but looked like .0003-.0004 to me lol

[@dougankrum3328]

Awesome channel for learning details. Back in the 1970's and early 80's, I worked on building new machinery like this (Burgmaster), no CNC yet, just punched tape, although they were capable of 4-5 Axis movements, and could hold .0005". The machines aren't a whole lot different now, just much tighter and faster, but the Computer Software has really done some magic. Back then, you had to 'dial' everything in using....well, 'Dial Indicators'...good ones could read .0001".

[@randywl8925]

The best advertising Rottler could get on this machine is on your purchase and subsequent videos. I know they'll treat you well for that. This type of high tech is way out of my league, but you explained everything so well that anyone could fully understand everything you described. Such a cool machine. How many tee shirts do I have to buy to pay for your machine? I'm guessing "all" 😁

[@jonhightower3505]

Wow, impressive mate. On your way to the top, thanks for taking us along.

[@brookwoodmotoco5537]

Would love to see a 30’s 40’s whatever era block measured to see how out of spec it is compared to modern blocks

[@mikehunt3222]

Hell, in the 20’s they never even torqued heads down. They just tightened them until they thought they were tight enough. The torque wrench never came out until the early 30’s. But if you can find an original block from that era that’s never been touched I bet it’s at least 1 to 2 thousands difference or even more. And any kids reading this when we say 20’s we mean 1920’s not 2020’s.

[@oldleatherhandsfriends4053]

@@mikehunt3222 The torque wrench was invented in 1918 so I'm positive it was used, most mechanics just probably didn't have one back then because they were expensive.

[@landscapingspecialist]

My new favorite channel. Love watching this kind of stuff. Especially when seeing to what end all the hard work goes to. 💪🏻💪🏻

[@simpleman2004]

I wish I had "Junk" blocks like that laying around. Cool video!

[@PhilG999]

Love these machines! Might remind people that when machinists/Engineers talk in "Tenths" we mean "Ten thousandths" of an inch. Some might not know and think a Tenth" of an inch means 0.10" when it's really 0.00010" 😁 Oops. I spoke too soon. My bad for typing before you explained it @12.08! 😔 And seeing that "junk block" painted black reminds me of the time I was building a SBC 350 for my '76 V8 Monza, and a friend asked why I painted it black? "Won't that make oil leaks hard to see?" I said: "Engines *I* build don't leak oil"! 😆

[@regsmith7604]

That’s one bad ass machine. You’ll be using it to do my motor as soon as I get the cash.💰🙏🏽

[@scottsigmon926]

This is an amazing piece of equipment Steve. So glad you are sharing this new equipment with us. It’s truly amazing at how much it can do. Can’t wait to see more on this masterpiece and the hone!!!

[@outlawracingfan9003]

I can really relate to the joy of seeing a machine like that...What a piece of art...🙏

[@martysmilt]

With 50+ years of automation and machining experience, PLEASE WEAR SAFETY GLASSES !!! You only need one accident to destroy your vision. Nice machine BTW. You know better, your subscribers deserve a good example and your insurance man will rest a bit easier.

[@skullhart]

Those hot chips are no joke!

[@JS-.-]

He’s got some years too

[@freedomfox8183]

Lol he's got decades experience to in that environment he will be ok he's a big boy ..

[@never-stock-rc2968]

Good catch

[@dakotaautosales9673]

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[@Dealete420]

AWESOME machine!! I love how Dewy over sees everything!!

[@54raceman]

Someone has to make sure everyone ain’t goofing around and stuff is getting done correctly

[@sheltonsaved2001]

Going thru medical down time...enjoy your vids and top it off just to see Dewey strolling through makes me forget about pain for awhile😃

[@MattyEngland]

Hope you're feeling better soon.

[@michaelmcclure8673]

Mr Steve, I tell people that machine setup is the time consuming part. 😉 And now you're at NASA level in the world of machines. 😁😃😃😃😃

[@bobroberts2371]

The other reason for an engine rotation overshoot is so the servo ( and brake ) is holding the block up rather than keeping it from falling down. RE The block wants to continue to flop over and close up the backlash but if we go past then to level, the backlash if taken up.

[@TXGunGeek]

Maybe I missed the part of the video or another video, Why are you machining dry? No coolant flowing through the process to move chips and cool the tool and surface.

[@richpitty]

That is a sweet machine don’t let the keyboard machinist get you going they probably can’t read a tenths indicator anyway great work as usual

[@randywl8925]

Steve's guys can't read a 10ths indicator? Really. He's not Budgetenginerebuild.commie

[@richpitty]

@@randywl8925 I was talking about the keyboard machinist not Steve’s guys I’m well aware their at the the top of the game

[@adamlambert3892]

Do you have to account for heat like expansion caused by cutting??? When measuring cutting the bore cause no cutting fluid

[@Fernando-Lopez67]

Couldn’t have timed this upload more perfect. Just when I got on KZbin. Can’t wait to watch it

[@ryurc3033]

Your Doggo helper looks like he could be my dogs brother, same color, same face, looks like a good boy for sure.

[@vehdynam]

Fantasttic to be able to see this and learn . Thank you Steve for these pricelss videos.

[@rmcnasty7319]

Nice machine , It needs a vacuum system to catch the shavings . Remember when u could make money porting and polishing heads. With a die grinder & a flow bench. Thank you for sharing the info. Looks like Garret just trashed another Texas speed motor. He almost got into the 6 ,s. He appears to need some sort of a Rev limiter. He needs one of your mountain motors.

[@Justins00ss]

Man that's a beautiful setup. Big investment but for sure will pay for itself in no time. And the technician seems awesome and super knowledgeable as well.

[@JohnRoberts71]

Great content thanks for sharing. Good luck with the new equipment

[@wilschell9984]

I would have thought that it would need some kind of coolant for cutting.

[@DragBoss351Cleveland]

Steve and company. Thanks for sharing this technology, much more sophisticated than ball hone☺️ lol. But these machines just blow me away with accuracy.

[@frankensteincreations4740]

Lmao 😂 Trying to measure things with a .0001 dial indicator will drive you nuts! That thing is so sensitive it’s measuring the ridges left from the fly cutter… That it’s absolutely perfection! You can’t get a surface any flatter than that! Damn! Super impressive! 👍

[@JMB676]

I find it interesting how it only needs to touch one side of the bore twice and when it goes to the other three sides it only touches once cause it already knows where the bores wall is from the first wall. This machine is impressive

[@timcampbell5141]

Sweet machine. I guess you can put the bores where you want to compensate for thinner thicknesses between cylinders (thinking RB stuff). Be cool to have a little vacuum to collect all the debris from boring too.

[@chrisoakey9841]

why is it doing all the machining dry? doesn't that put a lot of heat into the piece you are machining? and do you have tearoff's for the chip guard?

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[@stevemorrisracing]

Tear off would be a good idea The heat made is very minimal so minimal I can not feel a difference in the temp when surfacing , a little in boring

[@chrisoakey9841]

@@stevemorrisracing the oil also assists with the longevity of cutting blade which can effect the quality of the finish over time. - please dont take this as a criticism. just a question/ conversation. i enjoy your content.

[@timlarson9193]

Mitch is happy with his new toy!

[@Xavier1...]

1 0.0001 inch is 2.54 microns a valey of 2 ten thousands of an inch is around 5 micrometer or around 50 000 atoms wide since one atom is 0.1 nanometers and 1 nanometers is 0.001 micrometer. That is incredibly flat and i dont think the gauge can really be accurate enough for this scale.

[@seansmart2038]

2/10 of 1000s would still drive my OCD crazy! Lol I love the videos best engine builder around!

[@randywl8925]

Other than a huge congratulations on that new machine, I have one question after machining the surfaces of the block. On each side of the head bolt locations there's an irregular trianglish shape that is a different color, it's a lighter colored "splotch" Those would look to be water jackets, but they don't have any depth, so why are those a different color? Looking through the comments I saw someone else asked this question. I'll repeat my question that I made on the other fellows comment. You said those were pressed in, not filled openings in the water jacket. With such an irregular shape, what do you use to press in and fill those openings. Do you have to machine the block to fit a fancy shaped water jacket plug? I can't imagine a casting being accurate or smooth enough to press in a plug. This machine is going to totally change your shop, I can tell that already. 👍👍👍x

[@aaronpreston47]

I’m so glad I found you from Cleetus, just a wealth of knowledge.

[@silkyjohnson5976]

That machine is unbelievable!

[@wademiller4848]

What a Beautiful Machine! Mr. Morris, would a torque plate mounted on the deck be of added benefit when Blueprinting the Cylinder Bores?

[@jayceecombs6887]

Man oh man Steve... This is "Absolutely Amazing!" Just how close these tolerances, measurements, logistics are in an engine build can & have become! I recall how getting a 3 angle valve job was considered the "cats meow!" Dern I have been around... Thank You, J

[@advorsky1]

Ya it’s PERFECT beautiful finish also!!! .200” is a HAWGGGGG CUT!! HAWGGING OUT THE METAL!! Always nice having a brand new machine without backlash, crashes and new software to do cool new stuff!

[@amoncopeland6747]

Listening to this video while doing plugs and oil on my 5.4 3v ha.. makes me want something cool to build

[@Vermilya]

As a fellow machinist of sorts, when Steve said tenth, I'm going to assume he meant the short hand slang for ten thousandths. Its just an easier way to say when you basically only deal in thousandths and ten thousandths.

[@ryurc3033]

That's where my mind went too

[@austinmusolff7852]

Ten thousands is .01 he meant tenths like 2 tenths is .0002

[@grantreid8583]

@@austinmusolff7852 Yea the way i looked at it is a tenth of a thou is on thousandth of an inch .001" divided into 10 bits. The constant grinding gauge on the crankgrinders i have used was one full turn for .010" and every thou was split into ten bits as well excellent for checking for ovality.

[@iansaxton8684]

Nice to see it using a Renishaw probe, a great UK Company close to my home town.

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[@ShaggyDA1]

I just realized something. Steve learns the exact same way I do. If you can explain it or teach it, then you learn it.

[@mitsnevets]

great video Steve as usual , its fascinatng watching the latest in technology be applied to your craft , keep the content coming my friend !

[@jameslapointe3044]

Come on guys - no safety glasses? I know that your not that close but tools can break/chip.

[@kennethfeld6639]

10Ra is no joke - that is definitely smooth

[@scotthultin7769]

2👍's up Steve Morris thank you for sharing

[@sithyarael6807]

That puppy sure does a good job making sure y'all don't mess stuff up. Steve and Kevin Smith love their toys.

[@conductor710]

Mitch's mullet looking good.

[@scroob72]

Awesome machine. Is there a vacuum system since it's a dry cut with super fine particles?

[@Fl3uv3]

Does this machine use cutting oil or it is not necessary due to the low thickness removed?

[@bcbloc02]

When you took .200 out of the bore how much undersized did it turn out? I know there would be several thousandths deflection at that much cut.

[@davidsawyer1599]

Off topic. Steve you have mentioned in the past about false/fake contest winners to remarks. It just happened to my remark. One would think that KZbin could get a handle on these bots. It proves my earlier remark. AI can't stop the bots. There needs to be human monitoring.

[@stevemorrisracing]

Holy cow, I keep deleting and reporting them but they keep coming back.

[@garysells4259]

Still that is a very impressive piece of equipment! 👍🇺🇲😁

[@catatonia1]

Used a CK-10 for years don't remember smashing stones at bottom of bore if you new it would be close easing the hone head down slowly stopped any problems destroying stones. Anyone who didn't learn from a mistake like that the first time is probably more suited to the hot tank/ wash area or the drive through at McDonald's .

[@13699111]

Thank you for posting all the great videos on your channel

[@FredBuildandFix]

The machinists inside my stress out seeing that fly cutter in operation with no one wearing safety glass 😬. But I love this machine

[@lucascady4992]

Totally agree! 🤣

[@aaronpreston47]

I work in a custom kitchen cabinet shop, even my glasses are on all the time in the shop.

[@CL-ty6wp]

@@aaronpreston47 i hope a dust mask too. Saw dust is carcinogenic, something often overlooked.

[@ade-1772]

I think the dog was quality control seeing if your doing it right lol wow nice machine and saves using glass and wet and dry paper lmao

[@jaym4763]

Does it cut without coolant? I thought the machine you viewed at PRI was running coolant the whole time it was cutting?

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[@stevemorrisracing]

That was the hone that I bought not the mill

[@jaym4763]

@@stevemorrisracing ahh, okay. So we'll see that one in action at the shop as well. Great content for us people that dream of even knowing how to use one of those machines. Would love to see someone here in Australia running your engine

[@hotrod2893]

I have never seen a more interesting boring video. 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks Steve!

[@Dr_Xyzt]

Goodness, that machine is quiet.

[@dannyrodriguez2330]

Dang Steve i just got trained to run this cutter so now i'am trained to go help you resurface blocks.... LOL!!!!

[@mmike76]

Forgive the doctor geekness in me but as a health issue how are you preventing the shavings from this machine floating through the air. Metal dust is harmful to the lungs if inhaled for any length of time. But doing so for a long time can increase the risks significantly. You need some preventative measures to keep you all safe to do my block.

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[@georgedreisch2662]

Waiting on seeing it bore a crank bore and lifter bores! Make sure y’all delete those junk block programs, so no one grabs those by mistake.

[@censored1360]

I love how happy you are, it reminds me of my days in the shop late 80s early 90s when we finally got the Sunnen CK10 we all were giddy.

[@Midnight_Rider96]

Nice machine, never got to run it but I worked in a shop that had a bigger rottler machine to do big diesels flat on the table and a 4th axis just like this one

[@RobMasek]

M19 before installing the probe. If you install it backwards it will double the error compensation on z and y probing

[@Khemore]

Really impressive. I'm surprised that it doesn't need any cooling fluids or anything when milling.

[@TheJeracuda]

I'm surprised this machine doesn't have some sort of lubrication for when it's cutting the block or honing the bores

[@supertunesupertune]

Cast iron material likes to be cut dry in small amounts. This is decking and boring the cylinders, not honing in this video. We have the same Rottler F69A in our race shop with the Rottler H85A diamond hone and it uses water based coolant so the hone is wet to control temps for finish sizing. See earlier videos Steve did on him ordering the Rottler diamond hone.

[@dunbridgetruckstop]

Love you guys to much to not say this. Please get some safety glasses!

[@therareMcCoy]

Shout out to this thumbnail! Perfection! 😂

[@stevenshepherd1905]

If I ever got my mill trammed in that close it would get welded in place.😁

[@lucascady4992]

You should run your indicator at 2000 RMP!! IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW!🤣 True cut on a Fly Tool will give you that pool...

[@johnfischer2034]

Really cool stuff. Seeing all the machines and the knowledge it takes to run them before you even start thinking about making HP makes it seem like you’re giving these engines away. I don’t know what’s funnier, people in their mom’s basement that think they know better or Steve reading their comments and addressing them 😂

[@pmann438]

Hi Steve Forget about measuring things with a Dial Indicator. View it as a comparator. Ooh I forgot. The .0001 u r seeing may be distortion in the block thanks to the holding device u r using.

[@jkfonyi]

Oh god here come the you tube machinists that know better than Steve and a technician for the machine .😂

[@obamapox8185]

Have you ever worked with a tech? Example...how many microns is that Mitch? Uhh well a hair is like .003.. They are very good bs ers

[@jkfonyi]

@@obamapox8185 and here they come . Yes it’s an employee of company that makes said machine , I get it . But Steve knows what the fuck he’s doing , if he’s says it’s good I trust that . If you or other KZbin machinists want to impress Steve go apply for a job and show him how great you are and how much better you can do it then he does it .

[@obamapox8185]

Steve's the best I agree with that

[@robsdeviceunknown]

There is something about holding on to that tool and hitting buttons on the screen at same time that freaks me out. I just keep seeing someone acidentally hitting wrong button and losing fingers. I know, improbable yet still possible.

[@stevemorrisracing]

😁

[@bobroberts2371]

Most other milling type machines have a physical tool release button on the head that only operates an air valve.

[@Nite_KC]

Steve, when boring or decking or really any cutting, should you not be adding liquid cooling to ensure you don't get temperature size changes on the tools? Or is there more of a risk that fluid will trap debris on the tool that could add extra size on the precision cuts?

[@ohnorickyo]

14:20 talks about gaskets

[@slowg8701]

Holy crap that thing is amazing

[@thatbrickpotguy3548]

Im not expert and have no experience in machining at all ! But that seems extremely dangerous? Should there not be some sort of shield surrounding the tool to protect to operators??

[@danwarn5356]

Wait a minute.. Where's the 6 full turns of table/lead screw slop like the Lodge Shipley's I ran 30 years ago.

[@franklynpertuz7669]

Thank you for sharing it your knowledge to us that was awesome really great stuff thank you very much

[@35RSkyline]

That's very flat. That is the type of flatness we hold where I work. Very nice! I run a makino A92 soon to be switching to a new A120 coming in! Running the transmission case for the M1A1. Lots of adjustments and tool changes needed to keep the finish good and to keep flatness. Fun stuff!

[@SoGoodRc1]

So, as a machinist turbine nuclear, industrial, and automotive, I've run Mazak, Fadal, Haas, and some other machining centers. I don't quite understand how Rottler is selling you guys on these purpose built machines. 😕 no offense, fellas, it's just disheartening. The industrial machining industry still has this wedge with the automotive machining industry.😐 A VMC machining center can do all of this plus 1000.... this video looks a bit tense in the air, I've been in his spot with a new machine being setup for the first time. Lots of things you learn Please don't take this as me being obtuse or disrespectful. I am just asking genuinely maybe a vertical machining center with a programmable 4th axis less money has a tool changer and can be used for a ton of work. I love everything you do, Steve, especially keeping it real with these guys it's great to see someone explaining the true definition of machining and what has to happen to make all these parts sing in the choir. I think you could have a much better machining center for less money and more capabilities, and I'm not a machine salesman😁. I'm just another machinist lookin out for a hell of a shop.

[@danicamills7029]

I’m surprised the machine just doesn’t have a button to release the tool near the spindle look most cnc machines. Or just have a tool changer built in.