Lucille Ball was a 'Control Freak' - daughter Lucie Arnaz reveals to Joan Rivers -1990

[@frankiejoe]

This wasn't an interview, this was an actual amazing, insightful, and pleasant CONVERSATION!! A rare gem.

[@mamakat7176]

I absolutely love Lucy the show and the actress and I love Desi as well, however anytime I hear her talk about her parents it makes me feel deeply uncomfortable in my spirit because she has never talked about her mother with the love and reverence and pride that she does when she talks about her father, she always always makes Lucy the bad guy and her father the poor poor victim. She dwells on every negative thing she can get away with without pissing off her mother's fans and glosses and glides over all the crap her dad did

[@brianwalsh1401]

@@mamakat7176 She spoke her truth and did it wonderfully. She has insight and awareness to how she was raised and how she is raising her own kids because of it. This is the type of parent I wish I had. You're attitude keeps people from speaking their truth about how they grew up. Like she said you either pass it on to the next generation or learn to do things differently.

[@LightworkBeacon]

​@@mamakat7176 : I didn't get that from her at all.

[@janelliot5643]

@@LightworkBeacon it's hard to stop glorifying your Heroes

[@kellycommentates768]

This was fascinating.

[@writeract2]

The normality of this interview - and the presence and the intelligence of both women....like a different world from today.

[@writeract2]

@Kitty Kelly and no one has normal human intelligent discourse.

[@linda8485]

Finally watching someone who knows how to listen. Wish I had seen more of Joans shows.

[@jaybyrd3240]

She reminds me of Grace Slick ( she sang White Rabbit ) something about her movements

[@noelleagape8684]

Boy, that's the truth. You described it well. I feel as if we live in a whole other kind of world today. As a result I no longer care to waste my money or time on cable tv.

[@writeract2]

@@noelleagape8684 Haven't had it or watched network tv or any tv for years - as a result you regain your brain, your mind, your soul and truth.

[@mikeg8276]

I love that Lucie Arnaz was able to speak honestly about her relationship with her mother without dragging her for filth. This was a great interview for any Lucie, Lucille, or Joan fan.

[@scotnick59]

She never dissed her mom: classy and talented and beautiful

[@mamakat7176]

To this day She goes right up to the line when it comes to Dissing her mother and the only reason she doesn't cross the line is because it would be career suicide(people only know her and come to see her because of who her parents are and mostly because of her mother) because people still Love Lucy and she always makes her dad out to be some poor victim and just glosses over the things (and women) he did, she was and is a complete daddy's girl and in all fairness her father is who she sees when she looks in the mirror and at her brother because they look just like Desi and yes he was indeed an incredibly handsome, talented, brilliantly intelligent man (I do give credit where it's due)who was incredibly funny in his own right

[@sharonjensen3016]

Lucie wasn't traumatised by her mother. They argued and she moved out of home when they could no longer get along, but it's no different to what "normal people" go through.

[@michellestreater3296]

@@mamakat7176 she never made her dad to be the victim but people hate him because they love her mom so much I think her point was nither were perfect she even says desi drank a lot but she saw things we didn’t she loves her mom but she’s closer to her dad that’s ok a lot of kids get closer to one parent

[@michellestreater3296]

@@sharonjensen3016 true and she loves her mom

[@miahlee211]

I could sit and listen to Lucie forever. Not because of her famous family, but, because of how she speaks about life. She talks about her family, not as Lucy and Desi”, but, mom and dad. Her honesty and open self reflection is what draws me to her.

[@CornbreadMillionaireLifestyle]

She's wise, talented, well spoken. Fascinating interview!

[@jimgoodson6067]

For some strange reason, I never liked Lucie Arnaz. I felt as though she was jealous of her mother’s fame and as a result tried to discredit her at the every opportunity but In my view of them both, Lucy will never be the actress Lucille was.

[@tombryan1]

@@jimgoodson6067 But she will be a better person.

[@differenttakethanmost]

Ahhhhh for the good ol’ days of intelligent discussions and rational, coherent conversations that are all but nonexistent today. 🙄

[@SaherHaroon]

@@jimgoodson6067I kind of feel the same way, unfortunately.

[@jmcg9443]

Joan had the rare ability to let the guest speak instead of talking over them. She is so respectful here and because of that, we learned a lot.

[@brigidspencer5123]

True, unlike Oprah and Whoopi Goldberg who get excited and then go off on tangents!

[@SherryJo777]

@@brigidspencer5123 oprah and whoopie are the worst- i wont listen to them.

[@jonthomas8569]

I saw her do a cabaret a few years ago and she was great. Funny, talented, engaging. Joan was smart enough to see how interesting Lucie was and hang back and let her talk. This was fascinating.

[@doniellestenson3502]

And WHAT a voice. She is dynamic.A triple threat.

[@jonthomas8569]

@@doniellestenson3502 yes! She can really belt out a song. She clearly picked up her father's musical talents.

[@elisaangel9789]

Joan was a great interviewer. She was a natural.

[@brendaannedufaur6244]

Lucie Arnaz never rings a false note. Real from beginning to end. Just an authentic, honest person, incapable of pretension. You can't help but love her.

[@rumpestillskin4671]

Ball was an obnoxious jerk. Eastern Airlines banned her from flying them.

[@lorimiller4301]

I never liked her even though the whole world thought she was so great.

[@rumpestillskin4671]

@@lorimiller4301 Yes, trust your gut. It was right.

[@rumpestillskin4671]

@DESIGN AND ENTERTAINING I agree 100%

[@ritadaniels3175]

@@rumpestillskin4671 WHERE DID U HEAR THIS? I know SHE was a STRONG WOMAN❣️STRONG PERSONALITIES are sometimes “LABELED FOR LIFE.”

[@jaredregister5962]

"there are so many people who become the funniest people on earth because they have such pain that they're trying to get through" Immediately thought of Robin Williams RIP

[@kirnpu]

Oh absolutely. Me too.

[@radharamanivasam7269]

Me too, after his going away, there were tons of articles about depression and comedy. Looks like it existed during Desi Arnaz time too, very ironic and sad, but I love Lucy is timeless, what a show,

[@EnergyDoesNotLie]

Yes, yes, yes…I agree with you!

[@mariahb9961]

Same 😪

[@believeingod40]

Yep.

[@rosiepena8917]

This interview was from 1990. Lucille Ball had just died in 1989 the year before. I'm sure Lucie Arnaz was still trying to process and make sense of everything. She seems like such a beautiful sweet person. Lucille Ball said that her goal was to raise respectful kids who were not spoiled or bratty. I think she succeeded.

[@wmpetroff2307]

Oh absolutely. I always heard terrific things from people who have met and worked with Lucie and Desi Jr.

[@maestroclassico5801]

She kicked Desi Jr out of the house because of his drug abuse. He moved in with Desi Sr ....who probably let him since he drank so much himself. It's my the understanding that father and son went to rehab together.

[@marilynwillett804]

@@wmpetroff2307 She was a total control freak, and extremely controlling of co workers.

[@rustyrules4264]

@@maestroclassico5801Good that he had Desi to turn to. A mother to kick a 15 year old out of her house for any reason,doesn’t say much for her.

[@rustyrules4264]

@@maestroclassico5801 desi is not his father. Doesn’t say much for Lucy though,not wanting to meet him when she thought he might be.

[@frankweber7498]

Joan Rivers was a one of a kind people. I miss her on TV because she told it like it was.

[@emilycunningham8125]

and her final truth reveal got her whacked :(

[@freedom4063]

@@emilycunningham8125 I think Dr killed her purposely

[@imaginedimagination757]

For real? I got to look that up

[@goodbonezz1289]

And that’s why we stopped seeing her.

[@DonnaMayStanish]

frankweber7498 - absolutely. I miss Joan, too. ❤️🫂

[@AdrianChristian]

I will forever admire and respect Lucie Arnaz. She has spent her entire life finding the answers to life’s questions. A formidable human being.

[@MichaelDG2023]

@@Petriku1 with all due respect i would suggest that one also not confuse searching and compassionate criticism with condemnation

[@debbiem6406]

Lucie Arnaz is always so mindful and articulate. Joan made you feel like you were sitting in her living room with a friend and listening in. Nothing pretentious, self-serving or moronic like the interviewers today.

[@tigergreg8]

They are friends, well, you knew that when you heard she was at her house swimming in her pool

[@thenightporter]

Yep, like Fallon. He's funny sometimes and I don't mind these little skits he does with fellow celebs but what he does is more like a buddy show, not a talk show. And his guests too when they talk sound like they are in junior high. Few stars today act mature or are articulate and far fewer still sound intelligent or thoughtful. Carson had conversations. He had interesting guests, whether they were a big star or the oldest dental assistant in the world who remembers that to power a dental drill she had to continually press on a pedal as if it were a spinning loom. Nowadays we pretty much only get MiLFer, no-talent ass clowns like Pete Davidson or 6ix9ine.

[@intercommerce]

Such a relief that she turned out so nice, normal, and insightful, very down-to-earth

[@brianwalsh1401]

@@intercommerce I wonder if she had therapy. She sounds like she learned a lot about herself.

[@DonnaMayStanish]

thenightporter - I agree. My mom and I loved watching Johnny Carson's TV program. I still watch it in 2024 on KZbin. He was terrific for many reasons. ❤️

[@vikingprincess634]

What a self-aware, fair-minded, honest lady. She helped a lot of people with this interview. She definitely helped me. I’m saving this one! 👍

[@mamakat7176]

She is not fair-minded at all when it comes to her mother she hates Lucy with a seething passion and you can see it in every single interview she has ever done, she always paints Desi and this poor poor victim and the only reason she doesn't say worse things about her mother is because she knows that 1. People still love Lucy passionately and 2. The main reason people come to see her is in large part because of who her parents (and mostly her mother)were, not that she doesn't have talent in her own right but let's face it her parents legacy puts butts in the seats at her shows

[@preetakumar6593]

@@mamakat7176 The only reason she's there is because of her parents. People like to see dead people who cannot defend themselves be dragged through the mud. Lucy was a legend who got where she did through grit and hardwork. And here's her kid, talking trash about her from a place she never would have been if not for Lucy.

[@doody1108]

@@mamakat7176 I would urge you to take yourself out of the story of Lucille Ball and her daughter. As outsiders, fans, we have our own view of Lucy and Desi; but, her daughter knew them in ways we never will, and whether you agree or not, Ms. Arnaz is speaking her truth; and to deny her that is grossly unfair. I've been in her shoes, and can appreciate her point-of-view. I am not trying to be critical of you, just urging you to widen your viewpoint.

[@kjgammon1658]

​My God you have preconceived notions! You didn't even hear that interview, not one word. She spoke of both parents with love, but was very matter of fact and truthful too... something you need to be with yourself? ​@preetakumar6593

[@kjgammon1658]

​@@mamakat7176You are totally delusional! You need to be honest with yourself ,and see that interview again... listen to it this time...

[@ald.3387]

Watched on a whim and was shocked what a great, insightful, interview this was, and how Lucie is so concise and well spoken. And Joan wasnt constantly interrupting or trying to upstage her. SHE LISTENED. ❤

[@rockyracoon3233]

Unlike Barbara Walters when she interviewed LB in 1977.

[@Myownopinion807]

Lucy must have done something right in the mothering department. She raised an intelligent, honest, insightful, and loving daughter. I love both Lucy’s.

[@MacGregorLassie]

I was just thinking the same thing!

[@susansix4432]

Exactly!

[@marthay.higuera9723]

It is a well known fact that Lucie & Desi Jr. was raised by their grandmother Lucy’s mother, & nannies. Lucy was a career woman, a workaholic & perfectionist who was busy with her tv show, Desilu Studios, & doing a myriad of tv appearances. She left the child rearing to other people. Her main love was performing & everything else was secondary. She came to life when performing. From many interviews with family members & close friends, they all said that Lucille Ball was not at all like the Lucy character of the show.

[@carladaquila8190]

Her father was the good, warm person. Lucie was cold. Lucie Arnez is her father's daughter. Very honest interview. Very brave to share your truth.

[@marthay.higuera9723]

@@carladaquila8190 Lucille Ball was a huge comedic talent. But people think she was like the Lucy tv persona. From what I have read & interviews I have seen, Lucille Ball was a serious minded, no nonsense person. Desi was the opposite. Two very different & complicated personalities. But through it all, they never stopped living each other. Just could not be married.

[@Pluviophile218]

Lucie Arnaz sounds like a person who would be a very good best friend.

[@rustyrules4264]

@@Pluviophile218 she’s funny too.

[@margeshilling7983]

Lucie is so genuine and down to earth. She's also one hell of a stage performer.

[@WHATTHEBUCKSHOW]

One of the best TV interviews I have ever seen!

[@solemandd67]

1000 times YES!

[@Twinklez63]

Authentic

[@fashiondolldreamer]

Totally agree! Wonderful interview!

[@simonovessimon4242]

buck hollywood..totally agree

[@doniellestenson3502]

It really was.How I miss Rivers.

[@varrick1226]

Lucie is so well grounded and level headed. Good for her.

[@davidvanhouten5576]

And hasn't changed it seems. Her interviews today are as powerful and truthful.

[@thejeenbeen1861]

Her mother made her that way.. she never got special treatment... her mom treated her the same way with any other person

[@rachybaby72]

She can thank her parents for that...

[@TrudyPatootie]

Wow... I love Lucie's candor. She doesn't put her parents on a pedestal, but exposes their weaknesses and their strengths. I really liked this interview. It showed the reality of life as it truly was with her mom and dad. Warts and all.

[@SheilaJewell-fr2jq]

Can’t wait for Lucie’s kids to expose her, warts and all.

[@annerood2703]

I saw this originally, thought it was the greatest talk show interview ever, had depth and I never forgot it. Now on 2/14/21 I am thrilled to watch it again. Thanks for posting.

[@gingerrapien9103]

I want to be Lucie when I grow up

[@sarahdoanpeace3623]

Wow this woman was SO ahead of her time! Literally 31 years ago, she had it TOGETHER! "She was a control freak but maybe her mother was like that........and it keeps going and going...." YES! Pass it on and stop it and fix it. I loved it when she said "don't get mad!" like her mother was listening. Children ARE blank pieces of paper. Wow! I want to keep watching this forever and ever! Simply astounding!

[@carolmcclain6655]

I admire both lucie lucy and Joan Rivers Genius what more can I say loved Joan and Lucy miss them and their talent Joan was hilarious 😂 hugs from my Texas 🌹⭐

[@mariezacharda6542]

I don’t agree that children are “blank pieces of paper.” For example, twins and triplets, who experience their home environment at the same point in time/ same environment(not like older and younger siblings, who experience their parents at different points in time) and yet each one is different. I believe that everyone is born with a distinct personality and tendencies toward certain likes, dislikes, fears, passions: and that parents add to that. Parents DO very much so influence their child’s outcome, BUT there is already a personality blueprint from birth.

[@ginnylorenz5265]

Perhaps the best interview I've ever seen. Joan respectfully asked the right questions and then let Lucie talk. And Lucie just let deep, honest truth come out so intelligently and with such heart. And joan heard her with her own heart. Brilliant!!! Plus......so fascinating about Lucy and Desi. Both geniuses in their own ways. So sad, but what fun and joy they left for us!!!!!

[@corp4444]

WOW!!! I have so MUCH ADMIRATION & RESPECT for Lucie Arnaz after listening to her talk about parenting. You can tell she is a committed mother -- very down to earth, very real. No affectations. Her words are so true. ....... AND this is Joan River at her best as a talk show host: interested, compassionate, engaging. Thanks for posting!!!!

[@danielruggiero5230]

Joan was also at her best whenever she appeared on the John Davidson version of “Hollywood Squares” she even subbed for him in a few episodes

[@elvisobsessor]

Wow, this is phenomenal. So much wisdom packed into a less than 10 minute interview.

[@slimlouis6441]

Wow, I never remember seeing Joan so engaged, so full of love and care for her guest. No jokes. She was taking Lucy’s story in and making notes for her own mother/daughter relationship.

[@susanst.82]

Lucie wasn’t disparaging about her parents, but honest, as the adult child about her parents. She expressed her experience about being a child of a much beloved couple of adults that in no way diminished them but didn’t sugar coat them either.

[@MirandaDanda1983]

💥💯💯♥️

[@kimma508]

Lucie keeps it real and I respect her for that.

[@Ntsmith4]

She’s so honest and so healed. You can see that she’s worked through the trauma and has come out the other side stronger

[@baritonebynight]

Joan Rivers was one of the great comedic talents of all time. Even though she was over 80 years old, her accidental death was tragic and devastating. She was someone who crossed the line and never apologized for it. What a genuine talent.

[@teresalinton5898]

couldnt stand her

[@teresalinton5898]

@NakedAndLaughing whats with the baritone post then

[@donjackson6579]

Her death wasn't accidental

[@GlennaVan]

@NakedAndLaughing Nope. She died Sept. 4, 2014, in New York City at the age of 81.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

In addition to being a fab. comedic talent. Joan was honest about those who forged a path ahead of her (like Phyllis Diller) and never failed to give credit where credit was due.

[@dondevine8655]

Lucie, is one straight shooter. Very bright and to the point! I met her in Palm Springs, where she and her husband Larry are very involved in the community.

[@SusieQ-64]

She is a smart person. Her children are blessed to have such a parent raising them.

[@solemandd67]

So true.

[@Jayla60]

This was a very sincere and deep conversation. Lucie Arnaz is a sweetheart.

[@markdavis1611]

How are you doing Janet

[@migs532]

She is so transparent about her relationship with her parents and brother, and there is no shame, because we all in one form or another, we can relate to her. Love this interview.

[@elainephleps4705]

Wow Joan. God I miss her.

[@EnergyDoesNotLie]

It’s rare to see this kind of intimacy in an interview nowadays. It’s very revealing to see how she saw her mother and so candid about it without speaking poorly of her, at the same time. It would call Lucie Arnaz an eloquent, down to earth and gracious soul…

[@brookehanley3659]

In that sense Lucy and Desi raised them well.

[@thereseember2800]

Lucie generously shared such depth of insights about celebrity which are universal truths applicable today. Joan was a spectacular host and so genuine. It’s rare for an audience to hear this level of candid honesty and a credit to Lucie’s character. God bless their dear family and Joan’s.

[@susanxyz5730]

Lucy and Desi did something right because she’ is lovely, smart and self aware. What a wonderful interview. Really refreshing. Lucille Ball ways of loving is taking care of everything, she did a wonderful job leaving a legacy for her family. What a blessing.

[@lavenberry]

Sometimes not having a mom as a mommy makes the child an even better mother. I bet Lucie is probably a better mommy to her children than her mother was to her. Lucie was authentic in this interview.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Lucille Ball grew up poor in a factory (furniture) town, Jamestown, NY. She left home during the Great Depression to make her way in NYC. She would have to have been tough and very much in control of whatever aspects of her life that were under her control.

[@thomasfoss9963]

@@here_we_go_again2571 So true!! You had to be pretty tough to make it in NY, especially then in a man's world.......

[@bittersweet2253]

I always thought my mom was not a good mom to me, so I tried to be everything my mom wasn't for me only to find out I wish I had been the kind of mom my daughter is to her children. Looking back I know my mom loved me and did the best she could and same with me, I did the best I could with who I was at that time in my life.

[@neerasinha-frazer2094]

As time progresses we learn more about human behavior. But on top of that. It takes strength & bravery to understand what was healthy and unhealthy about your parents. & make the deliberate choice to be different. I love the fact that she puts on no facade. & is not ashamed to be real

[@preetakumar6593]

Trash talking your mother from a place you never would have reached if not for her isn't authentic or honest, it's ungrateful and shameful. Nobody would care about Lucie Arnaz if not for her parents.

[@crpeoplemover]

Thank you for uploading this entire interview. This is a wonderfully candid and honest interview. People who have uncomplicated relationships with their parents are rare, and celebrities are no exception. That doesn't take away from their extraordinary talent or legacy.

[@bradsmack1]

Lucie is to be commended for a remarkably candid and open interview. Naysayers will opine that she dared diss her folks, long passed. But, at about 40, here, she's been sifting through the neg stuff from her upbringing and making sure to siphon it as she raises her own. To be sure, she loved and respected her folks, no question.

[@Patrick3183]

@@bradsmack1 it’s not about dissing her parents it’s about coping with being the child of a superstar.

[@bradsmack1]

@@Patrick3183 True.

[@winterstorm366]

Some of best interviews on tv. Joan had a great show w great guests

[@gxs3604]

It really is amazing. This show didn’t get enough recognition

[@danielruggiero5230]

Joan was at her best during her daytime talk run [1989-93]

[@butchiej404]

Lucie Arnaz is so wonderful to listen to, her honesty and ever evolving overall growth is so beautiful to hear! I love hearing her talk about her father who was indeed slighted re being acknowledged for his contributions to the industry. He was a GIANT talent, innovator, and businessman!!

[@RiderBabe52]

These were the days. Two articulate, intelligent women having a real conversation. Nothing like this happens today.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Agree

[@maximusextreme3725]

Yes, and now we have The View, the complete opposite of all of that. How did TV actually become worse over time when it could have been so much better.

[@Geodxn]

Great interview! Lucie is an excellent talker. She could be my therapist!

[@Fatelink]

This is an AMAZING interview. Joan is so engaged and very genuinely wants to know the answers and Lucie comes across as so honest and soul-searching. At the end, when Joan tells her she can stay just the way she is, I teared up because Lucie got a little motherly encouragement from a funny lady like her mom. This universe is just amazing. RIP Joan Rivers.

[@MiguelGarcia-hl5jo]

Luci Arnaz is just the product of how great her mother and father were. She really embodies both of them to me she is just wonderful

[@kristinholsapple2587]

Wow , this came up as a recommendation and I am so happy I watched this ! What a raw interview...

[@1911beauty]

Joan was a fantastic human.

[@jonathangoble9829]

People dont realize how many people she helped.

[@anderander5662]

I think she was offed...

[@Gods2ndFavoriteBassPlyr]

@@jonathangoble9829 - She helped a LOT of people, yes.

[@PARADISE7670]

@@anderander5662 Shortly after she "outed" Obama and his man-wife.

[@fionaclong]

@@anderander5662 I think she was too .... and you know why?

[@holylandfan3275]

She really unloaded here. A lot to get off of her chest. Everyone thinks someone else, especially celebrities, have a great life, when in reality, they have problems just like anyone else does. Probably, even more pressure, since there is a magnifying glass on them.

[@Brucev7]

They do not serve the right Master. The World chews you up and spits you out. Always chasing more money, nicer houses and cars. Jesus Christ is The Answer. John 14:6

[@holylandfan3275]

@@Brucev7 💯

[@dyronw.brodbeck]

@@Brucev7 I suppose you think that george w. bush is a real Christian, right?

[@MsLiberty101]

@@dyronw.brodbeck No one thinks that! Ugg!! 🤢

[@holylandfan3275]

@@MsLiberty101 Agree. NO ONE believes he is.

[@kepckatherinec805]

I’d love to have Lucie as a neighbor and friend. Her intelligence, modesty and humor are irresistible. And her big heart glows with love for life. What a sweetheart!

[@johnscanlan9335]

OMG that was 30 years ago!!! It sounds like it was maybe last year.

[@kevinreily2529]

She is such an amazing person. So smart, sensible well-adjusted. Just awesome.

[@heart12361]

Joan was a great interviewer. Very underrated.

[@lorraineb.4698]

In this. Lucie Arnaz was the one. Great interviewee.

[@rickloera9468]

Lucie Arnaz is an amazing woman. She is able to see the wrong in her past and actually work on making things better. I can totally identify with the whole control thing. Lucille Ball tried to take what she had in the fifties and drag it into the eighties. Unfortunately the world had moved on which left her feeling lonely. She felt like she had to be the center of the world to matter. Had she lightened up a little and just let herself age gracefully with her fans she would have known how loved she was. I think Lucille Ball felt like she had to be relevant to be loved. That is probably why she did Life with Lucy. Old formula that no longer works equals her fans don't love her anymore. Problem is we never stopped loving her, we just moved on with a different kind of comedy for the 1980's.

[@glennlrw]

I really don't think it was quite like that, regarding the TV show - close but not quite. The "Life With Lucy" show was a show in search of an idea. Yes, it recycled everything from "I Love Lucy" but also Lucy's other past TV shows of the 1960s and 1970s. The "Life With Lucy" TV family other than Lucy was totally forgettable, not powerhouses in their own right like Desi Arnaz and yes, William Frawley and Vivian Vance. Gale Gordon was brought on to the "Life With Lucy" show, but it again was a recycle of her past TV shows. What made "I Love Lucy" so compelling was the surprise element of the physical comedy. You would see new things tried and surprise is always an element of comedy. Once the surprise is gone and it becomes predictable, I don't care what era you are in. The "Life With Lucy" show had no central idea or goal to be reached, like thousands of sitcoms these days that don't have a storytelling vibe - just there. Regarding all of the other insights you made, I do think you are right and have great insight. The need to be relevant and loved to the present day, etc. Even though we all love Lucy to this day, with or without a more current TV show.

[@shannon-wise]

Lucie Arnaz's honesty is so refreshing!

[@fbueller]

I love Lucie!!! 😂

[@johncocchia210]

One time while watching i love Lucy a friend came over and in a angry voice he says you must have watched each episodes a thousand times how many more can you watch. My answer a thousand more at least

[@aliciacruz5957]

Same here, never get tired.

[@kirnpu]

@@aliciacruz5957 Never ever!

[@justinepurdham7128]

Same here, I could watch them three times a day, can never get enough!!💖💖💖

[@chunkylover214]

This is such a special interview. I'm so happy I watched it. Thank you for posting.

[@saphirus1able]

I really appreciated this thoughtful interview. It must have been some time ago. Lucie was so refreshingly honest and I love how she shared what she had learned over the years about herself, her parents and how it has impacted bringing up her own children. Boy was she right when she says no one teaches you how to be a parent and I love how she had such a realistic view of her Mom's parenting style. She was forgiving of it knowing that Lucy must have only learned and applied what she had learned from her own parents, grandparents, etc. There is such a tendency these days to blame ones parents for all of our dysfunction. While there may be some truth there, grace should also be applied liberally because people naturally follow familial patterns from prior generations.

[@pianomanhere]

Looking back, this interview confirms that even though I didn't know a great deal about Lucie Arnaz, I always sensed that from among her, her brother and parents, she was the one who had her feet most firmly planted on the ground. Therefore she was also the one most likely to be the happiest and healthiest. Thanks for sharing this.

[@allenmovies]

What a beautiful, real, heartfelt interview!!!

[@ironbridge2451]

Kids need to know there are boundaries. Her mom did something right, cause she seems very nice.

[@mscarolynnigro]

30 years later, the country is unrecognizable.

[@dangelo1369]

People change; things change, Carolyn. If you expect things to stay the same as it was in 1990, then you're fantasizing. Celebrities are humans just like everybody else. All the same faults and foibles you may have, they also had. Ask the Crosby boys about how it was growing up with Bing or ask the Lewis boys how it was with Jerry. The things about them that made them great entertainers were not necessarily the same things that made them good parents or decent human beings.

[@770WT]

Back in 1990 we were complaining it wasn't like 1960 . Hindsight is addicting .

[@jjgreek1]

In some ways it’s better

[@Patrick3183]

@@dangelo1369 no, the country is unrecognizable. America now isn’t better than America in 1990

[@mariezacharda6542]

There was a generation of very strict parents, which beget a generation of almost laissez faire parents, which created the “everyone gets a trophy” mentality and now that generation has an entitled mentality. I am hoping that it swings back the other way, but somewhere in between control freak and laissez faire

[@colleenbrown3366]

Lucie Arnez is wonderfully honest and candid and Joan Rivers was a great interviewer, she let her guest talk.

[@mediascribble]

She laid it out exactly like it was. You won't find out more, and I believe her wholeheartedly. She's terrific.

[@NicknickRose]

Wow what a wonderful interview!

[@vhermosilla6548]

Brilliant interview...important reflections were made here that people really need to hear and digest for themselves. I feel enlightened by her sharing all of this with the world.

[@andrewmiller4885]

Always loved Lucie Arnaz , what a great interview this was. No affectations or pretences here with this lovely human being . Smart, insightful , funny , and utterly honest in the nicest way I have seen . I could listen to her all day . To look back on your life and exercise wisdom in that reflection is a rare quality .

[@368lx]

This lady is amazing, breaking the cycle of trauma! Great!!

[@renegaderaccoon335]

I didn't have high expectations before watching this. But she's thought everything out so well and is being so open. Fascinating, intelligent, warm, and so well spoken.

[@barbj9785]

I so admire Lucie Arnaz. Shes honest, real and comes across as sincere and an ordinary person. Shes mega talented as an actress, singer. I had tickets to see her but with the pandemic all shows were cancelled last year. Hope to see her sometime in the theatre.

[@Sunshine-nl9mv]

Such life lessons in this interview. What an incredibly insightful daughter gently and accurately sharing an analytic dimension of her famous parents

[@elizabethschreffler9182]

This interview was refreshing and real. I love Lucie Arnaz and respect her. Lucille Ball is a distant relative of mine. I wish Lucie Arnaz all the best.

[@astornic]

Any memories of Lucy u would like 2 share?

[@user-vp1sc7tt4m]

How do we navigate back to having conversations like this one? This was an awesome exchange between Joan Rivers and Lucie Arnaz which connects on so many levels. This was 1990. 34 years later, I wish we would be capable of bringing back the ability for us to have a conversation just like this one.

[@doniellestenson3502]

Always amazed by this brilliant woman.Wise and engaging.Lucie is the perfect combination of her father and mother.To this very day.The torch bearer of her family legacy.How I LOVE Lucie.

[@robyoung9968]

I’ve seen Lucie Arnaz in several interviews.. She’s really great. This interview tells a lot..

[@zacheryspencer]

Wow she is so well said! Very intelligent, so eloquent with her words:)

[@jekaniahgeorge6799]

I loved this interview. It’s honesty.

[@BrooklynDreaminCG]

Phenomenal interview. So many dynamics at play. I wonder whether Ball's frustration, hurt and disappointment over Arnaz, whom everyone knows she loved deeply till the day he died, affected her emotional availability to his children.

[@silverserpent420]

This hits home and is so insightful. I broke many cycles that I desperately didn't want to pass on to my kids. And next month my husband and I celebrate 23 yrs of marriage. We tried hard to become pregnant. Before we started trying we made a pact. That no matter what happened between us we wouldn't project our mess on to our kids. That no matter what, we were partners in raising the lives we created and to be better than we were treated. Thankfully we are still going strong and our boys have had better than us. Today they work with dad and I at a dental lab as Dental lab techs. Cycles can be broken.

[@lindanadeau8742]

I do believe that Lucie Was a awesome daughter, sister, and from what I understand a wonderful wife and mother, AND an amazing talent

[@brendadufaur37]

It is October 2024 and there is a utube interview with Lucie that is so great. She says her husband is 90 so she wants to stay home alot to be with him and also enjoy her grandchildren. She is doing a nightclub act where she sings in san francisco. A wonderful person.

[@Timmerjax]

Amazing interview!

[@lynettenasseri753]

What an amazing interview! Some true insight to Lucille Ball, Desi, their children and their lives. And how wonderful that Joan allowed Lucie to talk unlike so many talk show hosts of today.

[@MichelMawon4982]

Wow, I love how honest she was. Looking at her mother's interviews, she got some of that from her mother. Before she said she was closer to her father, I could guess it as she says "my father, my dad" while frequently referring to her mom as her pronoun "she". I was naturally closer to my father but most people who know me can't tell because I spent so much more time with my mom.

[@sarahball-ruck846]

This was a wonderful interview!

[@Vania.Carolinaa]

I love that Joan let her talk. Interviewers these days are always interrupting their guests which makes me wonder why they invite people to their shows in the first place.

[@Rachelroberts87]

what a well rounded, articulate beautiful woman she turned out to be! her mother would be proud❤️32 years today of missing you my queen❤️

[@gregorykeithmorris3970]

Her bluntness is refreshing and admirable.

[@gregoryphillips3969]

Fantastic interview, never heard such honesty from her before. The absolute most qualified person to speak about Lucy and Desi would be their daughter.

[@ScrapNfight]

I love Lucie here. Such an individual. Her own person. Self aware.

[@rocstar279]

Absolutely LOVE Lucie!! Her authenticity, awareness, wisdom, and kindness are simply beyond admirable. 🙌🏽😍💕✨

[@ohmeowzer1]

Excellent interview

[@sierrabinion7112]

I love hearing her speak. She is never a lost for words. You don’t here a lot of uhhs or pauses.

[@marisolitaliaperez9621]

Wow...here we are 31 years later after this amazingly, insightful interview was done. Joan Rivers was one of a kind. There has never been anyone quite like her nor Lucille Ball...two of my favorite comedians that ever lived! Lucie Arnaz minie-me version of her dad, whom like she said has never gotten recognition he deserved!!

[@markdavis1611]

Hi Marisol

[@lucythecat12]

Very impressed Lucie was able to be this insightful and have such a compassionate understanding and prospective of motherhood.

[@amylynn4924]

What an amazing lady. I love when people actually live and LEARN. So many just repeat what they know and never care to grow or change and care how they raise their kids. I loved how insightful and self aware she is. Great interview

[@tomsparks6099]

I've always admired Lucie Arnaz. She has star quality and wisdom without even trying. Lucy and Desi did something right when you think about the "cycle" of parenting.

[@jmnny85]

The crowd really appreciated her this makes me wish Lucie had gotten her own talk show

[@diespringerin602]

Such a loving and respectfull interview. Very wise person.

[@JC-yy8iv]

It’s always startling to see how real people could sometimes be back then. Celebrities are all so media-trained now, which of course they have to be bc entertainment journalism is more vicious and sensational than ever, so everyone’s so careful. It’s really refreshing to see two straight shooters just talk about the realities of fame