Symmons Tub Shower valve leaking water in tub

[@LexVance]

A plumber 15 years from now will be thanking ole Steve Lav for greasing them seats. Great video Steve!

[@slagletoby]

The New England accent is the best. 🤩 Thanks for DIY support, done! 👊👍

[@stevenlitvintchouk3131]

Wow, that's exactly the same setup as my leaking Temptrol handle. Even the bathtub is the same color! Tightening the packing nut stopped the leak, but within a few weeks, it started leaking again, and the packing nut was loose again.

[@kylebass4635]

Thank God that was mounted good in the wall. As tight as it was I thought it was going to break.

[@limppimento55]

That was the most suspenseful part.

[@ChrisNH2FL]

Well there I was about to start taking my shower head apart to figure out why it was leaking. Good thing I found this video first. Looks like a job for a professional(one equipped with the right tools).

[@Mike-wq9on]

Between your video and a comment about Symmons warranty I was able to rebuild the valve for $0. Thank you!

[@christiand.6112]

Steve is more than a professional plumber, he's got skills 8:59

[@lilpbass]

Thanks for the video. Not being a plumber, I always learn from your videos.

[@borndiy5490]

You really covered all so well. Every step of removing and reinstalling. Nicest video overview on plumbing I have seen. I don't have this buy sister does and waiting for friend to replace valve. I know I could also do this, right down my diy easy install. Also nice Shower Faucet. Not sure how that diverter works but if I ever need new, will look for similar model. Thanks

[@michaeldoyle7510]

That use of the easy out screw extractor was genius. I saw that and ran to my toolbox and found one. Worked like a charm

[@dmneil1977]

I just watched a video by the inventor of the zip seat extractor. There is the square extractor for the older style seats and the hexagon for the new seats. You use an impact drill with a bit that attaches to the extractor. The inventor claims these extractors never strip the seats and will even remove previously stripped seats.

[@RayRay-nb7tn]

That valve has happened to me too. I had to force it out. But it came out with some help. Those type of vavles do take a bit for the shower pipe to drain. Thank you for an easy way to get it out next time.

[@jaylee5643]

Thanks for video, just my faucet is leakeing can i just replace the spindle

[@ethanclement9647]

Those Symmons are a PITA. Wasn't able to pull the outer seat with the official tool --stripped it. Then drilled out with 1" drill bit. Followed with a wide cold chisel. Wish I had the easyout you had. To make matters worse, the hot is still leaking.

[@limppimento55]

Excellent! A few thoughts came to mind: Did the last seat that was hard to remove have the grease on it? Was absence of grease why it was so hard to remove? Did you bypass another notch or hex and use the 3/4” easy out or is that the only way? I’m surprised there is no dandy tool to scrape a new surface on the seat. And finally, what of the copper pipe behind the tub wall breaks or cracks from that enormous torque applied to it? That never happens? And if it did, do you run the risk of a homeowner blaming you for damage? “Hey lady, I broke the pipe behind the wall amd the tub and drywall have to come out”.

[@acoustic61]

Everywhere I've rented seems to have Symmons shower valves. I think they work pretty well until they start to bind up. Probably depends how much gravel and shit is in water.

[@junsikchoi4219]

I wanna give you a big thank first and then I share my experience here for people. I live in a condo (1st floor). There was a big bathroom repair upper floor and apparently they cut down copper pipes all day long. They had to shut off water for entire lines (my unit and other units above me) because we share the main valve to shut the water off. After the construction was over, I used bath tub and I saw a lot of copper debris coming out of the faucet. And then the dripping started. I found out that copper debris were stacked inside the Symmons valve so the cartridge couldn't be fully closed. I changed the cartridge and also changed hot and cold seats anyway, as it was a good chance to change those probably after more than a decade. Note that recent Symmons shower diverter is (RTS 126 or something) different from the previous one (TA52 or something. There is TA52A and TA52B.). Unless hot/cold seats are really stuck like in this video, this is really easy job.

[@gregkupfer8887]

Why would you not replace the diverter valve at the same time when everything was open?

[@joe0813]

could that valve be why when I turn my hot water on for the bath/shower I lose water pressure?

[@teh60]

Good repair Steve.

[@dnice822]

Thank you for this video this helped a lot. I got everything back in, I get hot and cold water. But for the hot water I have to turn all the way over the half circle. How do I fix this?

[@waltradcliffe4482]

It seems everything is heavy duty in your area I have an old rental house the three handle tub was leaking I snapped the whole thing off trying to get the packing nut off the house was plumbed with cpvc and they only had a piece of plumbers strap to support the shower valve

[@syedjhussain3645]

This was very helpful! Had the same issue, thank you!

[@paulg444]

@6:50 "give it the ole how you doing mama" !

[@KGrant-ty3oy]

@stevenlavimoniere PLUMBING HEATING & AC how could you tell it was the seats and not the diverter spindle that needed replacement? What would be happening different if the diverter s valve needed to be replaced instead? Thanks!

[@gshock200]

Would it help to heat the old seat kit before I try to remove it? I've got a stubborn one

[@derekobidowski3301]

hi steve i seen a newer Lennox Ac condenser out here the fan motor went out on it and it has a manual reset switch on one of the lines as as that what the technician said is to protect the compressor. as when the motor quit it tripped that switch. as its wired into the 24 volt side of it which prevents the contactor from pulling in if it trips. as it must be the newer systems charged with 410A that have it im not sure if Ruud or Goodman has these manual reset switches. So anotherwords its a safety switch its a good thing Lennox puts them on their units.

[@Eddy63]

I speak rabbit and he was sayin' ValueTesters is a good sponsor ... Lol ... Good vid Stevie Boy ...

[@xfishman123]

Cool video Steve! Love the vids keep em going! Anthony from California

[@amystarzynski8527]

What is the name of the tool you used to remove the outer seat?

[@bossmantrucker656]

Oh yeah it’s always fun rebuilding them shower valves. Cool 😎 Peace ✌️

[@CrisMedina-g6v]

if there is water coming out of the spindle after i have replaced both seats and the spindle, what did i do wrong

[@saibabapokala]

Very nicely done easy to follow. Thank you very much Steve for sharing it. Can you please specify the tools name and the parts name which you replaced. Thank you.

[@hamesh3474]

How much do you usually charge for doing a valve like that... Have one exactly like that that's causing me difficulty 🤔

[@bbaconsurf]

What about spraying lubricating, rust remover let set min. then go to removal.

[@kevincharles9159]

It worked!!! Thanks so much! Where are you located? I’m in Somerville and Cambridge MA. Accent sounds like home.

[@Quentyn73]

Excellent vid!!! Thank you Steve!

[@Kuhlyedascope69]

hey Steve my bottom shower is stuck on steaming hot water cant change it and my top shower gets really warm but not steaming. just got a water heater put in too?

[@downsouthlearning4824]

Got any videos of the trackless coming soon Steven? Interested to see how it's coming along

[@stevenlavimoniere]

i will do some videos on it been to hot to work on it now

[@bobbilarrivee1247]

Which size easy out did you use???

[@aaronsc231]

Came across this one again. Thx for the vid

[@morkiesmithful]

When are we going to see some cooking videos? I'm stomach is missing them

[@RichTheitalianplumber]

i have been having a run on symmons tub & shower valves here in ma the last couple of weeks

[@Albert-617]

STFU!! I HAVE HAD A SHITLOAD HERE IN BOSTON!! GLAD THERES WORK!

[@jbrady5979]

Video was very helpful.. I replaced everything and now it drips at the handle knob

[@charleneh8084]

Thank you my husband‘s going to get a world of shit now. We have the exact shower faucet and it’s been leaking for years. You heard that right YEARS! This winter I’ve been bitching at him more about it and his excuse is, ( Hes gotta wait til the spring because he can’t drain the water in the winter ) Baloney!!! I saw you turn the water switch off. Not DRAIN the pipes. Thanks 😉

[@xs6819]

Model numbers of replacement parts?

[@philkingmke]

Give it the old "how ya doing". Lol.

[@Dr.Bigglesworth]

What's a showah? Nevah heard of pahts before... ;-)

[@Fireship1]

That seat needed extra Grundy for extraction!

[@tomreid5658]

We don't have too many symons here but when we do the diy' ers DON'T get how difficult it is to repair

[@michaelpassino6821]

Good afternoon

[@jeffreykreft5442]

Great video Steve, holy shit momma that was tight as hell, you always amaze how you can get these to come apart, I never have good luck like that. Rest assured that piece of shit would break on me.

[@kdmq]

Man that was one stuck seat! Not always perfect in the real world.

[@Inspector694]

What tools did you use for this?

[@edgbostonnorth7167]

Good info....thx!

[@slowedwop6645]

look like quiet a bit of water damage in there basement must flood alot

[@PRO4XKEV]

Symmons is a strange design.. Pain in the ass for service after years of use.

[@j.p.8304]

Put a little fritz on it Mama.

[@johnnywood8082]

Should have put a drop cloth on the wood floor and something on the tub so you don’t drop something and chip it.

[@CraigArndt]

Not the Taj Mahal momma....

[@chuckquinn8026]

How is Miss Molly with rabbits? My Chi could have cared less...

[@stevenlavimoniere]

she tryed to go after them ....but i always have her on a leach she dont get to far

[@AA-sq1xz]

Have you ever had a valve body break on you while trying to pull out cartridges, valve seats, etc? If so, what did you do? Also, I come here mainly for the dog :)

[@jarednelson4155]

Replace valve

[@crazyfloridian]

3rd

[@chumprock]

Bust out the ol' cheater.