Cheap Rear Brake Upgrade for your GM 10 Bolt.

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@louisward3654
@louisward3654 4 жыл бұрын
Pirate Jacks is awesome, they can get u set up for brakes on damn near anything. I did 4 wheel disc on my 63 impala for surprisingly little $ and, they work great. Their not just an eBay store either so getting through to their tech people is super easy
@boss94ways51
@boss94ways51 3 жыл бұрын
Did you hv to chg your master cylinder and proportion valve
@louisward3654
@louisward3654 3 жыл бұрын
@@boss94ways51 if your going 4 wheel disc you have to change em
@jwill2778
@jwill2778 6 ай бұрын
@@louisward3654thank you sir you just save me time and money I have a 65 caprice and biscayne also 66 Pontiac Catalina still young so I’m running around like a chicken with his head missing 😵‍💫😭😭😭🤣
@tl1024
@tl1024 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, by installing disc brakes, you have greatly reduced the risk of "the axle & wheel leaving" if a c-clip failure occurred. The disc, caliper, and bracket will hold everything together.
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 4 жыл бұрын
Im looking to get a full float rear for my 2007 bowtie classic
@levrone0075
@levrone0075 4 жыл бұрын
good point!
@jonellwanger7258
@jonellwanger7258 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadowopsairman1583 2007 classic...?🤔. 😶🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@-mp
@-mp 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadowopsairman1583 your car isnt even considered a collector’s car yet chill lol
@eduardoburgos487
@eduardoburgos487 3 жыл бұрын
@@-mp he means he has a 2007 nbs Silverado not the 2007.5 nnbs stupid
@tjr8063
@tjr8063 4 жыл бұрын
Got a f250 7.3 97 and have had nothing but problems out of the drum. Never done a conversation to disc so trying to pick up as much as I can to prepare for the kit this was one of the more helpful videos thanks man.
@deeznutzz101
@deeznutzz101 4 жыл бұрын
Because you are a moron.
@terryduncan31
@terryduncan31 Жыл бұрын
It will be a lot more expensive and I would not recommend disc brakes on the rear if you spend a lot of time in the dirt and mud. You will be replacing the pads way more often as the abrasive materials in the dirt will grind them away.
@franksandlin8974
@franksandlin8974 4 жыл бұрын
Several years ago,one of the popular magazines had a article which stated that drum brakes were as good as disc. The problem was that the drums were sealed and heat was the problem. By drilling vent holes in face of drum between studs drums they were nearly as good as disc, and a lot cheaper. Nothing against throwing money at cars. But anyone with deep pockets can go fast or stop fast . Hot rodding is going fast cheaply.
@vm722
@vm722 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍 If you slam on the brakes. Unless something is not adjusted. They do jam. As teenagers we experiment 😉. What does not work. Is front drum brakes with a little water. Rain. Or snow being the worst..Just do not get in the way. No matter how much you pressure your brake pedal. You will not STOP.
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc 6 ай бұрын
The argument that drums are as good as discs is absolute BUNK. No matter what "one of the popular magazines" (huh?) says drum brakes are those 07-13 GM trucks purely because of profit.
@Hammerback0
@Hammerback0 2 жыл бұрын
I kept my stock axles and used a c clip eliminator kit. Cheaper than axles, and took the worry away when launching in slicks under boost at the track.
@brandonrayner5253
@brandonrayner5253 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting to do this to my 92 Chevy C1500....from one Canadian to another...awesome job!
@Garcia01
@Garcia01 Жыл бұрын
Ever go through ?with it same year as mine. Rear driver has a small drip(recently started) and idk if anyone has ever changed them
@bestusernameevahhh5802
@bestusernameevahhh5802 Жыл бұрын
Not many know, but the blazer in the later years came with rear disk. If you have a newer model like my 03, find a 2wd blazer and grab the parts. You can swap the whole diff in no time on these.
@mooseman3136
@mooseman3136 4 жыл бұрын
These are memories for me as I did the almost exact same thing to my 1978 Z28 using Eldorado calipers and brackets with Trans Am rotors in the late '80's. Did the kit come with a master cylinder and proportioning valve? The MC is necessary as the volume of fluid to the rear brakes is much increased and I remember I had to swap it out. The PV was also different. The parking brake was a bitch to get working right and also had to replace the cables. That car is long gone now. I miss it :-(
@jonathanlawson4667
@jonathanlawson4667 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to switch the master cylinder out but you do need the pro portioning valve
@Jm4n157
@Jm4n157 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that works for my c10 I’m sure it does
@markwestcott6866
@markwestcott6866 Жыл бұрын
I see these videos all over the place and I never see anyone change their distribution/proportioning valve. There are disc/drum and disc/disc ones.
@GregSilverado
@GregSilverado 4 жыл бұрын
Pirate Jack sounds like a name you can really trust
@jahbless2810
@jahbless2810 4 жыл бұрын
Said nobody EVER
@Mr572u
@Mr572u 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the way you installed the rotors on back, but the front rotors are on the wrong side according to the drilled holes and slots..
@hpjunke
@hpjunke 2 жыл бұрын
Doh!
@bugbomb8048
@bugbomb8048 2 жыл бұрын
I broke two Moser axles on the dirt track and ended up put the stock ones back in and never had another problem....!
@hubbcapp2109
@hubbcapp2109 2 жыл бұрын
Really Appreciate the info speedyCanuck, Got a 64-Chevelle that I have done the 2012 Camaro Brembo brake Swap on, and it's been a nightmare, to say the least, ended up having to go with hydro-boost, and now several rims won't fit because of that big ass caliper. So thanks Ill be ordering tonight.
@firefighter3072
@firefighter3072 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help and have a great time with your set up
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 4 жыл бұрын
Little tip from an old guy...if your working on your knees throw a pad on the floor. I would also done a little cleaning and painting on that housing. All those nice new components, make it look ugly.
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 4 жыл бұрын
A good time to replace wheel bearings and seals if its an old car. I would like to have seen more on how you dealt with the old hose connections.
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomikhaos7248 no problem, just wanted more details.
@jerryperez5486
@jerryperez5486 5 жыл бұрын
I installed a similar kit on a 78 gbody malibu, there ok. I put about 300 miles & brake pads started squeaking & didn’t hold well against piston. Also noticed the rubbers seals where sliding pins go are wearing out. Not using that kit again. Cheapest way is 98-2000 Camaro or Blazer set up. Junk yards have them everywhere.
@cameronvandygriff7048
@cameronvandygriff7048 5 жыл бұрын
Did you have to switch master cylinders since I know disc front drums rear master cylinders are usually sectioned off or did it just work planning on doing this sometime in the near future
@jerryperez5486
@jerryperez5486 5 жыл бұрын
Cameron Vandygriff you can use stock master cylinder but I recommend upgrading to 86-88 SS with slight bigger bore. Also definitely need to change out to disc/disc proportioning valve.
@cameronvandygriff7048
@cameronvandygriff7048 5 жыл бұрын
@@jerryperez5486 ahhhh I forgot about the proportioning valve I've got a 93 S10 and I'm trying to get it lowered and get a little handling in it before I do my 350 swap this spring and figured while im taking the whole suspension apart might as well get some discs on it so I'll probably upgrade the master cylinder later to one with some brake performance but right now I just want brakes that work on all 4 corners the drums are pretty suck at their job XD
@bennietrevino9270
@bennietrevino9270 4 жыл бұрын
What I did for my third gen got from wrench apart not even spend 100 dollars on mine
@cameronvandygriff7048
@cameronvandygriff7048 4 жыл бұрын
@@bennietrevino9270 did you have to use a different master cylinder since they're set up for disc and drum or disc and disc
@israelibarra2198
@israelibarra2198 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to do the same to my 85 Camaro. This video just gave me motivation to do it myself. Thanks for your help.
@ozkar11100
@ozkar11100 4 жыл бұрын
Just get a rear end of a 85 iroq with disc brakes. Make sure you get the brake lines too. I did it with my 82 berlinetta.
@yeudsiegal5285
@yeudsiegal5285 4 жыл бұрын
@@ozkar11100 what about the master cylinder and valve?
@ozkar11100
@ozkar11100 4 жыл бұрын
@@yeudsiegal5285 if you want to be safe you can swap those too!
@Bowtie4me
@Bowtie4me 3 жыл бұрын
get any rear end off a 4th gen F-Body better caliper then those old steel style! get PBR or keep drum brake!
@delljr2769
@delljr2769 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you want cosmetic appearance I wouldnt waste good money on rear-disc conversion. For one thing most of the braking power, like 80% of it comes from the front, so a nice quality, larger diameter, 6-piston up front will do most of the work, then to spend that same money and time for the rear which isnt used as much isnt a great idea. Also you can run line-lock on old cars with front disc and rear drums for Easy burn outs.
@number1pappy
@number1pappy 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I did this to my 1997 gmc Sierra slt and I didn't notice a damn bit of difference! Save your money, unless like you said ,you want it to "look" better if your running open wheels.
@brianbrusseau3233
@brianbrusseau3233 4 жыл бұрын
These calipers were used on Oldsmobile Toronado , Buick Riviera, and Cadillac Eldorados from 1979 to 1985.
@bigdave8040
@bigdave8040 Жыл бұрын
The reason GM stopped using these brakes is the requirement for constant adjustment of the e-brake. If this is not done; which Cadilac owners never did, as they bought a caddy thinking it was maintenance free (Chevy Caprice owners, or the Caddy at one third the price, since it is the same B-body behind the grill without the added trim, owners realized that maintenance is required; such as changing engine oil and filters). If not adjusted to compensate for pad wear it results in complete loss of rear brake function and your pedal dropping constantly as you try and stop the car only using your front brakes. Big Dave
@Twitch_Moderator
@Twitch_Moderator 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed fellow Canuck 👍 Awesome channel. Fun stuff to watch. I too am a car fanatic. I had a '68 Mercury M-100 with a 300 ci inline-6. And about 40 others. LoL. No project ever completed. Maybe one day 😉
@lakotamatt4533
@lakotamatt4533 3 жыл бұрын
Did u have to upgrade your brake booster or did you factory brake booster work??? Thanks just did this on my 73 Camaro have pressure issues or maybe a bad booster?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 3 жыл бұрын
I did change my brake booster, but that had nothing to do with changing the rear brakes. You do need to change your master cylinder from a disc/drum, to a disc/disc. And your proportioning valve while your at it.
@romangranite74
@romangranite74 2 жыл бұрын
Want to install on my 71 Camaro like to know did it fit easily?what booster are you using?
@JB-yc5gc
@JB-yc5gc 4 ай бұрын
Great Video. Can you post the axle you used
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 ай бұрын
@@JB-yc5gc it’s a big bearing 9inch out of a 72 Ford Ranchero. I used 35 spline Quick Performance axles and Yukon third member with a spool.
@vicmorales9132
@vicmorales9132 3 жыл бұрын
I think the front rotors are swapped to the wrong sides. The grooves on the LF rotor are swirling the wrong way.
@mikelovito5127
@mikelovito5127 Жыл бұрын
very possible,I think it only matters if you drive competively only normal street driving will not matter
@carlosgarcia8063
@carlosgarcia8063 4 жыл бұрын
I need one of those for my 1991 Chevy
@johnnyturbo8460
@johnnyturbo8460 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, 🎶 "And there's oil everywhereeeee" 🎶 Nice!
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc
@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc 6 ай бұрын
Only thing that would concern is what happens down the road when you need new rotors?
@creightongoodwin7535
@creightongoodwin7535 2 жыл бұрын
Good presentation.... But I would have passed on the nylon lock nuts in favor of metal ones; Unnecessary, but the brake assemblys get hot....
@GoGoGarage
@GoGoGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, did you make a video on adjusting the E-Brake?
@screwsnutsandbolts
@screwsnutsandbolts 4 жыл бұрын
Good work 👍🏻
@jason1351
@jason1351 4 жыл бұрын
My truck has SSBC rear kit for my 95 C1500. It uses 87 Turbo Coupe Thunderbird calipers! LOL!
@giovannimattis6901
@giovannimattis6901 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I have the same kit on my 91 from ssbc and I had no idea lol
@jimwilson7428
@jimwilson7428 4 жыл бұрын
What about changing axle bearings & seals while having axles out????????? Wouldn’t surprise me if new axles tear up the old bearings, way to go!!!!
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
jim wilson I already put new bearings and seals in the axle. But thanks for the concern.
@danieldecker6396
@danieldecker6396 4 жыл бұрын
Okay guys this is absolutely the point which you replace with GM parts the bearings and seals no questions asked just do it if you do this set up where you get this deep into any kind of rear you will still regret it if you have a failure when you put it all back together at least the seals if that's got no miles on it
@ThePeopleVerse
@ThePeopleVerse 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video....what of the Prop valve and master cylinder ?
@jjmccloud
@jjmccloud 4 жыл бұрын
Ao it won't work on my 98 k1500? I believe it has what u mean by staggered shocks. Got 1 pointing to the front and the other side is pointing to the back. If this doesn't fit my 98 then do they make a cheap kit that does fit the staggord shocks on the 98s
@mrmidnight32
@mrmidnight32 7 ай бұрын
You remember the name of the seller or kit you bought? I want to do this with my c10. My drums are blown out and need a complete rebuild/replacement
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 7 ай бұрын
The seller was Piratejack. Not sure if he’s still around. But this was a common kit sold by many.
@richardsantos7334
@richardsantos7334 2 жыл бұрын
Nice kit But they make a 13 and a 1/2 inch Rotor with a 4 piston Caliper but u need 17 inch or bigger whell four $450
@tater0909
@tater0909 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to put disc brakes on the rear of my 97’ Silverado
@ypop417
@ypop417 4 жыл бұрын
That may be an easy swap using parts from a newer Silverado that has them. Check out wrecking yards/You Pull places around you.
@tater0909
@tater0909 4 жыл бұрын
Y Pop ordered brackets from one company. They have a parts list of everything needed. Waiting for it to come in now. Estimated cost is under 500
@edbeck8925
@edbeck8925 4 жыл бұрын
Drum brakes actually have more surface area than disc brakes. It's why they still have drum brakes on semi trucks
@marzsit9833
@marzsit9833 4 жыл бұрын
you can still get real asbestos linings for semi trucks, that's why they still use drum brakes. if you could legally get real asbestos linings for passenger cars or light trucks there would be no need to convert to disk.
@georgecummings3227
@georgecummings3227 4 жыл бұрын
Ed Beck good point just heavy.
@jimquast8186
@jimquast8186 4 жыл бұрын
Ed Beck actually disc brakes are on semis today Wal Mart’s new trucks have them
@holmes1956O
@holmes1956O 4 жыл бұрын
Wow you giys that think rigs still use drum brakes really need to get up to speed. The disc brakes for rigs are 100% better than anything ever offered for trucks. How do I know this? Owner operator for 40 years. Also maintenance supervisor for an enviromental transportation company. Anybody that thinks drum brakes are better than disc brakes needs to get some education on the subject
@shawnrobinson726
@shawnrobinson726 4 жыл бұрын
You did a great job 👏
@brookewoody8620
@brookewoody8620 4 жыл бұрын
Will this fit 1985 c10 Chev PU truck
@chevyboi600
@chevyboi600 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid You should do a follow up on this.
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 4 жыл бұрын
Id like a full float rear 6 lug 14 bolt AAM or Dana limited slip with large rear disk that will fit 17 inch wheels. I wonder if corvette have 6 piston front and rear...
@Hockeyallday-bl4vy
@Hockeyallday-bl4vy 8 ай бұрын
Did you need a new proportioning valve?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 8 ай бұрын
Yes. And I also changed my master cylinder from a disc/drum to a disc/disc.
@27sincity
@27sincity 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Canadian Accent, " Ought"
@teoduloacosta5701
@teoduloacosta5701 2 жыл бұрын
Nice got a question, got a 1970 camaro I want to upgrade to disk. Will I be able to still use my 15 inch rally sport RIMS? THANKS IN ADVANCE. 😊
@neonbeach62
@neonbeach62 3 жыл бұрын
Everything was cheap? Did I miss the part where the costs were revealed?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. At 10:55 in the video.
@rick343
@rick343 4 жыл бұрын
Did you not have to change the propotioner valve ?
@Thundarr995
@Thundarr995 4 жыл бұрын
You do have to change your proportioning valve. Or some GM vehicles you're supposed to get a master cylinder from a vehicle that has rear disc brakes. Disk brakes require more fluid and higher pressures to work properly. Nobody ever mentions this,they're actually down grading their braking power without changing those parts also. Sometimes you only need to change a spring in the proportioning valve to vehicle that originally came with rear disc brakes. If the car has antilock brakes,this can open a whole can of worms. The brakes might be ok,but then the antilock brake light won't turn off. My friend did this to his Explorer and it eats front brake pads and rotors. I drove it and I think his brakes suck. I put slotted drilled rotors and carbon ceramic pads on mine,drum in the back,ceramic shoes. Mine stops on a dime and no issues. I wouldn't waste my money on this stuff. It ain't gonna stop you much faster anyway. Just because it's aftermarket doesn't necessarily mean it's better than stock. There's plenty of cheap Chinese aftermarket stuff out there that is....well it's not very good. Sometimes it doesn't even fit,or work for that matter. Sometimes it's made from inferior grade metal. Grab a Chinese brake rotor in one hand and a factory on for the same car in the other. 9 times out of 10 the factory ones are heavier. They're made of better iron and they last longer. I'm not familiar with the brand this guy is using. If it's cheaper,it's probably junk and the stock drum brakes are better.
@rick343
@rick343 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thundarr995 totally agree, I was just wondering why he didn't mention it, I own a 93 K1500 has drums on the back and I'm perfectly happy with them, I make sure the wheel cylinders are good and clean and everything is adjusted right and it stops great, I will probably never get rid of it so I enjoy keeping it going strong.
@rick343
@rick343 4 жыл бұрын
@jason crigger What the hell are you talking about, if you can read it then it's fine, I don't see anything wrong anyway, god damn grammar freak on a mechanical video, STFU and go somewhere else.
@Thundarr995
@Thundarr995 4 жыл бұрын
@@rick343 I feel the same way about mine. I have a 97 S10 4.3L 5speed. I turned it into the truck that the factory should have built. I put Power Stop Drilled slotted rotors with carbon ceramic pads up front,steel braided lines front and rear,ceramic shoes in the rear. This truck stops on a dime. Also put a 99 NVG 3500 transmission in it. Its heavier duty than the 97 NVG 3500. Put 3.42 gears and a Zexel Torsen posi-tracion carrier from a Z-28 in the rear axle. A Y- pipe from a 4×4 Blazer,because it's not crimped under the oil pan and it flows better than the crimped 2wd one is. High flow catalytic converter. Also installed a stage 1 clutch in it. I also put some BF Goodrich radial TA's on it,lowered it 1in in the rear. It looks completely stock,but it's alot quicker than a stock one. I also have a 93 Mazda Navajo. I did a few upgrades to that too. I like driving my old cars. Paint is good and no dents.
@holmes1956O
@holmes1956O 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Caffrey your buddies explorer is eating front brakes because the rears are not working properly. Find the problem fix it. Dont blame the parts blame the moron that cant find the problem. Oh woops that you isnt it. Disc brakes are far superior to drums. Not a single race car or motorcycle on the planet uses drums. But hey you are smarter than all those engineers that build multi million dollar race vehicles arent you
@helmutsawatzky3930
@helmutsawatzky3930 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same kit and i dont know why one e brake cable is longer than the other?
@LitwayJ
@LitwayJ 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have a proportioning valve
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. And I switched the master cylinder to a disc/disc master.
@LitwayJ
@LitwayJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagedadsgarage that may be my issue damn I purchased a new proportioning valve didn’t think to swap the master cylinder I’ll swap the valve first and see what it does but that master cylinder has been on my Chevy caprice for a few years now haven’t had the chance to drive it Since I can’t stop it properly
@alafrosty
@alafrosty 11 ай бұрын
The "crappy" drums had emergency / parking brake shoes that your new setup doesn't have. If I were you, I'd add a parking brake back into that.
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 11 ай бұрын
This caliper has a parking brake. Kit comes with the cables as well.
@alafrosty
@alafrosty 11 ай бұрын
@@averagedadsgarage Thanks. I now see the parking brake activation built into the Eldorado caliper. Nice! Upon review, that's a really nice kit and with instructions. Full marks to Pirate Jack.
@YourMom-rk4rs
@YourMom-rk4rs 4 жыл бұрын
Factory Corvette studs are longer and work as a stock replacement. Was your kit metric or standard? I'm not crazy about the china metric kits on eBay. Not the greatest material but ok for a flipper
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Your Mom I bought ARP studs. I drilled them out one size larger, I believe I went with 7/16. They were actually too long though and I had to trim a little off because my chrome lug nuts are capped.
@jaysenbrown741
@jaysenbrown741 4 жыл бұрын
What did you do about a parking brake? I'm about to change out and I live on a hill?
@jaysenbrown741
@jaysenbrown741 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, watched to the end
@mrwarmonga
@mrwarmonga 10 ай бұрын
Donyou know if this will work on a 85 olds cutlass 442?
@dl6043
@dl6043 4 жыл бұрын
Do c clip eliminators if ur worries about losing an axle
@chrissantiago405
@chrissantiago405 2 жыл бұрын
Did u use any valves for the conversion
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I installed a wilwood master cylinder and proportioning valve designed for a disc/disc setup.
@rigocastillo8929
@rigocastillo8929 2 жыл бұрын
How much was the kit? And can I do this to a 96 Chevy caprice
@jamesdavis6036
@jamesdavis6036 9 ай бұрын
Why are drum brakes crappy?
@Pablo453
@Pablo453 Жыл бұрын
How did you connect the hoses to the calipers?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage Жыл бұрын
This kit came with flex lines, banjo bolts, and the copper crush washers. Goes together the same as any front caliper. Even came with metal tabs you can weld or clamp to your axle tubes to hold the other end of the flex line. And from that point you hard line it.
@Pablo453
@Pablo453 Жыл бұрын
Thanx for the quick reply. Mine came with rubber flex lines so long it crosses the upper trailing arm bracket. I thought perhaps you had shorter flex lines but yours seem to be about as long as mine. I'm trying to figure out how to run the hard line closer to the axle and use maybe a 6 inch flex line.
@krazobuildz7567
@krazobuildz7567 4 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks
@brettlyde6338
@brettlyde6338 4 жыл бұрын
If the axle breaks it won't come out now the disc brake will hold it in
@trentdawg2832
@trentdawg2832 4 жыл бұрын
If the axle breaks it's pulling that disk off.......but I don't really seeing it breaking. ....not like he has 1000hp or anything.......coming together nicely if I do say!!
@brettlyde6338
@brettlyde6338 4 жыл бұрын
If the axle breaks nothing's getting ripped off no more power is being transmitted out to that wheel it's coasting the caliper holds the wheel rotor what's left of the axle in place
@holmes1956O
@holmes1956O 4 жыл бұрын
Trent robey explain how it is going to pull the disc off. I need to hear this one
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 4 жыл бұрын
@@holmes1956O If there is enough power to break the axle that bracket isnt likely to hold in on. It most likely will pull the brackets and the disc off along with the axle.
@holmes1956O
@holmes1956O 4 жыл бұрын
cuzz63 not likely. The power from the engine isnt going to pull the wheel off after the axle is broken. But you have your position
@charlesjenkins5087
@charlesjenkins5087 10 ай бұрын
So how much wider is your axle overall from wheel mounting surfaces?
@DominiAeternum
@DominiAeternum 4 жыл бұрын
How much of the braking is actually done by the rear axle? I heard it's not alot, that it's mostly the front brakes that stop the car by far. Even on a RWD
@indykartsindoorgokarting6711
@indykartsindoorgokarting6711 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the car; weight, wheelbase, height, centre of gravity and weight transfer when braking all make huge differences. Rear or mid engined sports cars for example will have a about a 50/50 split front to rear for brake performance. An old big block Camaro or a standard FWD small car will have about a 90/10 split in an emergency stop however an old Cadillac Limousine will have about a 60/40 split because of the lack of weight transfer do to the extra length of the limousine. To give you an example of how extreme the weight transfer can be the 1970 V8 Holden Monaro 2 door (an Australian built RHD version of the Camaro with a different body) would lift it's rear wheels completely off the ground during emergency stops! a 100/0 split!
@keithwatson8228
@keithwatson8228 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you didn't show how you got those c clips in.
@lanceroark6386
@lanceroark6386 4 жыл бұрын
What if I didn’t see your last video?
@howardjones4428
@howardjones4428 Жыл бұрын
Do you have part number for the kit
@MattMascarnio
@MattMascarnio 7 ай бұрын
would this fit a 1970 skylark?
@mjochoa2007
@mjochoa2007 3 жыл бұрын
Can you give me a link that you use for your chevy!?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Link is in description.
@Slicpartna
@Slicpartna 4 жыл бұрын
nice video very informative, SpeedyCanuck did you ever find out what rotors those were?
@trevintaylorthe6_7veganttucke
@trevintaylorthe6_7veganttucke 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't hear you mention the cost of the "cheap" disc upgrade......
@ethancollins8201
@ethancollins8201 4 жыл бұрын
10:54
@JuanLopez-ol9bm
@JuanLopez-ol9bm 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice video. I’m doing this to my 70 Monte 10 bolt. Did you have to change the proportioning valve? Thanks!
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Juan Lopez I had to change my master cylinder because it was set up for a disc/drum combination. I bought a wilwood master cylinder and proportioning valve that suits a disc/disc setup. They’re not that expensive. Good luck.
@JuanLopez-ol9bm
@JuanLopez-ol9bm 4 жыл бұрын
SpeedyCanuck thank you.
@terryowens8813
@terryowens8813 2 жыл бұрын
Wat year did u buy I didn’t see it
@DaRealArtist
@DaRealArtist 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Curious, what make and model car your working on?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a 1968 Pontiac LeMans.
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 4 жыл бұрын
the only problem with a cheap disc breaks on back u lose the emergency break were the others still have it
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
This setup still has the emergency brake.
@williammackin6463
@williammackin6463 4 жыл бұрын
Wondering if the caliper hits frame rail when the car's AirRide is aired out ?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@209chevymon
@209chevymon 4 жыл бұрын
so the front kit is from cpp that uses c5 corvette style calipers and the rears a pirate jack kit that uses a 79 el dorado style caliper so when doing a brake change are you asking the auto parts store guys for a pair of c5 brake pads and a pair of 79 el dorado pads to do a complete change or are you ordering the pads from each vendor from the kits?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
209chevymon I can go to a parts store and order c5 pads for the front, and el dorado pads for the rear.
@209chevymon
@209chevymon 4 жыл бұрын
@@averagedadsgarage nice what about the rotors?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
The front kit from cpp uses a c4 rotor. But the rear kit from Pirate Jack didn’t specify. My have to order replacement rotors from their website.
@alphasaiyan5760
@alphasaiyan5760 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the same kit that Eric the car guy installed on his truck. Watch Eric’s channel. He actually shows the complete installation from start to finish.
@felipeandresorellana1537
@felipeandresorellana1537 4 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about the OBS Silverado this is not the kit and the video also hies i to a few mods done for the kit to work, still great info on the basics of getting the job done👍🏻
@Gmanboobies
@Gmanboobies 4 жыл бұрын
Eric is a friggin Jackass.
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 4 жыл бұрын
Not the same kit at all.
@davidprater1050
@davidprater1050 Жыл бұрын
Where do you find the kits at
@smithmj2010
@smithmj2010 2 жыл бұрын
Hi did you also change your rear differential with Posi and what gear spline did you go with. Are the originals axles spline 17? Thanks
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I had a Auburn posi unit installed. Still running the factory 373 gear set. These cars came with 28 spline axles from factory. I’m staying with 28 spline for now. Going to see how far I can push them. Lol.
@TheDeepDiveLLC
@TheDeepDiveLLC 10 ай бұрын
You did this on an Astro?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 10 ай бұрын
I did?
@yosyarzate3066
@yosyarzate3066 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think this will work on a 2005 colorado ?
@fernandogodina505
@fernandogodina505 3 жыл бұрын
I drive chevy cruze 2015 can't I upgrade disc brakes
@sarblade
@sarblade 3 жыл бұрын
What did you do about an emergency brake replacement?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 3 жыл бұрын
These calipers have a built in e-brake. And this kit came with cables that replaced the factory ones on my 68 LeMans.
@sarblade
@sarblade 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagedadsgarage do you have the link for ebay? I'm on Vancouver Island so wanna minimize shipping lol
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 3 жыл бұрын
The seller was Pirate Jack. Not sure what all he has listed on eBay right now. There is a link to their website in the description. There are other companies that sell very similar kits. It’s a popular caliper and rotor used in older swaps, so you may find similar kits sold by other companies.
@sarblade
@sarblade 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagedadsgarage Thanks much
@rlamas67
@rlamas67 2 жыл бұрын
what size stud did you have to use
@ebritanica
@ebritanica 3 жыл бұрын
Is there enough free space between most farthest point parknig brake mechanism and frame?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@rogjackson
@rogjackson 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I am curious- did the wheel mounting surface move either inward or outward with this swap? Or is it in the same exact location?
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Jackson Almost exactly the same. Maybe an 1/8 of an inch outward. The thickness of the rotor on the hub face is slightly thicker than the drum.
@mr.eervianlesmana9263
@mr.eervianlesmana9263 7 ай бұрын
​@@averagedadsgarageCan this kit be installed if using 15 inch wheels?
@chuckiebrooks8446
@chuckiebrooks8446 Жыл бұрын
Will this work on a caprice
@88classic
@88classic 4 жыл бұрын
Question?? Did u upgrade the front brakes ? If so did u have to do anything to front end??
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
88 Classic I did upgrade the front brakes. After doing a CPP big brake kit, I changed out my master cylinder and proportioning valve to a wilwood.
@88classic
@88classic 4 жыл бұрын
@@averagedadsgarage so the brake caliper on the front in this video is stock? Only asking bc i wanna go from one piston to two piston brake calipers.. I see u have two piston brake calipers on the front..
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
88 Classic The front is not stock. In one of my other videos, I did a c5 brake kit. I had a factory single piston caliper set up in there prior to that.
@88classic
@88classic 4 жыл бұрын
@@averagedadsgarage ok thanks 👍🏾 ill go check that video out
@danielalvarez4062
@danielalvarez4062 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run a 15 inch wheel??
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure you can. I think they’re the same size rotor I use to run on the front, and I had 15" rims back then.
@romangranite74
@romangranite74 2 жыл бұрын
Is it good for 71 Camaro 12 bolt?
@ramirolopez212
@ramirolopez212 4 жыл бұрын
Can you send me a link for the parts
@robbwhitehead5486
@robbwhitehead5486 4 жыл бұрын
www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/630615/10002/-1
@ivanignacioortiz3284
@ivanignacioortiz3284 4 жыл бұрын
i have the same ebay kit i shoul to solder a litle plug that have just in the center of the piston caliper cause after some time start to leak brake fluid
@mazambeliqbal3487
@mazambeliqbal3487 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I need this to got a 1986 Nissan laurel c32 what to change rear drum into disc brakes
@itsofasho1064
@itsofasho1064 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same on a gbody
@longshot153
@longshot153 3 жыл бұрын
It’ll be similar. 10/12 bolt axles didn’t really change much afaik
@ninevoltromeo
@ninevoltromeo 2 жыл бұрын
seeing that their website calls the Camaro a G body car makes me nervous to order their items.
@martinhernandez628
@martinhernandez628 4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother , quick question when changing drums to disc do you need a power brake booster. Or can I still use the stock one in my car
@welcome2cali946
@welcome2cali946 4 жыл бұрын
I need to kmow also
@Karkmotuning
@Karkmotuning 4 жыл бұрын
Yea you probably will need a brake booster, disc brakes generally need a bit higher pressure for the same amont of brake force. Not often you see disc brske cars without a brake booster.
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave 4 жыл бұрын
If your car already has power brakes the booster should be adequate. I have seen front disc/rear drum cars that weren't power and they work fair. I've never seen 4 wheel discs that weren't power and I would think you would need Arnold legs to make them stop. The cheapest way to get power brakes if your car doesn't have them is to buy a factory style booster.
@pgboyinthehouse9041
@pgboyinthehouse9041 4 жыл бұрын
You would need a larger bore size master cylinder. You can do some home and find a factory one that will do the job and may bolt right in. I have a 1974 corvette factory manual 4 wheel disc brakes . It stops pretty well. However I would just buy a factory booster lime others have suggested. Other option would be aftermarket Master Cylinder from someone like Wilwood. They offer quite a few options in power and manual version for disc brake conversions . Hope that helps.
@holmes1956O
@holmes1956O 4 жыл бұрын
Karkmotuning ah ya race cars. You can go in 2 different directions. You can power booster it or go with a different master cylinder to give the pressure and volume to suit the brake caliper size. A proportioning valve between the master and rear brakes is also a good idea
@akp41
@akp41 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@michaelmutphy9077
@michaelmutphy9077 3 жыл бұрын
New axles warrant new wheel bearings and seals.
@Not2480
@Not2480 4 жыл бұрын
1978 trans am.has rear disc. Change portal.valve.keep it simple
@thefixitkid8105
@thefixitkid8105 5 жыл бұрын
You have a link to kit or name of guy who sales it??
@averagedadsgarage
@averagedadsgarage 5 жыл бұрын
The sellers name on eBay was Pirate jack. Type in pirate-jack-asheville-nc. He seems to have brake parts for everything.
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