Steyr Dragoon Scout and African Big Game Cartridges: .376 Steyr, .375 Ruger, .375 H&H

[@bruensal7182]

This isn't Ian McCollum. This is Sir Ian MacCollumson from the Boer Wars

[@johnalexander2349]

I'd like to think that Ian would've fought for the other side in the Boer wars.

[@migael581]

@@johnalexander2349 the farmers or Brittish?

[@quatro_quatro]

You mean Jan van Coelluijm

[@d33b33]

Ian's family name comes from MacChaluim, which means 'Son of Calum', which was a tribe from the rough mountains and islands of Western Scotland. A kilt, a claymore and a Brown Bess would be more suitable than a pith helmet. ;P

[@bruensal7182]

@@d33b33 so MacCollumson means Son Calumsom lol

[@undertakernumberone1]

"I can't say if it's better or worse than the Steyr, let's shoot again." *Bang* "OW!"

[@Hawk1966]

He definitely rocked harder on that 2nd round. Maybe it was loaded hotter.

[@fredbecker607]

Stock design might be enough different to affect recoil.

[@dyerwulf5459]

I laughed at that one. My wife gave me a weird look.

[@Corvus__]

@@dyerwulf5459 Did you wind up sleeping on the couch?

[@dyerwulf5459]

@@Corvus__ maybe

[@Raven-Blackwing]

When it's cartridges I have never heard of I know the video will be good.

[@LawkzBro]

I really like to hear about these interesting cartridges, the coolest one is still that spanish cetme one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX_NlZepnddmpJo

[@dannygungun1009]

Nice to see they filled this niche

[@vettepilot427]

Aaaaaaaand he has headgear on. It’s gotta be good!

[@baobo67]

.375 H & H Magnum attracted me. The sporting 98 Mauser is the only big game bolt action. Both have the history. The rest are just reinventing the wheel and marketing. Cheers.

[@baobo67]

@@dannygungun1009 What niche was that?

[@austingerner-rose697]

.376 Steyr: *says joke* Gun market: *Silence* .375 Ruger: *Says same joke slightly louder and gets the credit*

[@AshleyPomeroy]

"It's true that I stole all my jokes from Denis Leary, and to really throw people off the scent I camouflaged them with punchlines and did them before he did."

[@ganthrithor]

@@AshleyPomeroy :D

[@randomidiot8142]

Prc. Pointless redundant cartridge. Congrats ruger. Like the lcp, literally copied pistol.

[@hansmueller3029]

True

[@hansmueller3029]

Ruger lifted from the Rigby .416 as well

[@geraltofrivia323]

Ian and his glorious hats. lmao

[@theultimateshadowgunmercen751]

It's all for the meme of fat scout

[@DaVid-ju7ee]

Wind´s Howling

[@arbernani4727]

Request him to make a video of his hats!😯

[@geraltofrivia323]

@@arbernani4727 hes made one, go look it up, hes got quite the collection.

[@samholdsworth3957]

I chuckled

[@themadkraken1912]

*muzzle rises almost 2 feet* _THAT'S ACTUALLY _*_NOT TERRIBLE_*

[@justmerc1642]

@@standuprook_ Comparable to a chest x-ray.

[@mikeforester3963]

@@standuprook_ Measly 3.6R ... and not even graphite laying around

[@GeneralChangFromDanang]

What are we talking about? I was in the toilet.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Makes sense, actually. The more the muzzle climbs, the less force is directed to your shoulder.

[@perryplayzzz]

@@GeneralChangFromDanang recoil and x-rays

[@tidge879]

I lived in SA when I was 19 and I was given the chance to shoot my boss' 375 H&H. I'd fired plenty of 5.56 and I thought "how different can this be". I took a, probably, weak grip and fired from prone. I thought I'd fused my shoulder to my hip when I fired it.

[@thijsvandervoort8261]

I read shot my boss' wrong and for a split second I thought you'd murdered your boss with one of those monstrous rounds :(

[@jameshealy4594]

"How different can this be" reminds me of skeet shooters just before they fire a magnum slug, only your example is even worse. Glad you survived your ribs all being fused together.

[@TurtleStranger]

You probably did

[@rogerwennstrom6677]

@@zer0deaths862 Pistol??? Dear lord!

[@lairdcummings9092]

@@zer0deaths862 damn. That puts the S&W .500 Magnum to shame.

[@TheArklyte]

0:50 When a country needs to specify MINIMAL power cartridge for hunting instead of things like rifle type, you try to suspect that this rule comes not from being merciful to wildlife, but rather from a growing pile of dead hunters...

[@KyussTheWalkingWorm]

Paying rangers to protect fatass tourists or at least go retrieve their bodies to return them home gets expensive, subsaharan countries have better things to do with their budget.

[@jubuttib]

Um... In Finland we have minimal power cartridges defined for most animals, I think. We even have a minimal power requirement for bunnies, which is lower than that for rabbits and hares. For example class 2 is defined as energy at 100 meters being over 800J, with a bullet weight of at least 3.2 grams (examples given are 222 Rem, 223 Rem, 22 PPC USA, 6 PPC USA, 22-250 Rem, 7×33 Sako and 7.62×39), and is allowed for roe deer, seal, wolf, lynx, wolverine, beaver and mouflon, and any game from the lower classes. Class 4 is the highest, for moose etc. Energy at 100 meters > 2700 J, bullet weight at least 9 g, or energy at 100 meters > 2000 J, bullet weight at least 10 g, or lead free energy at 100 meters > 1900 J and bullet weight at least 7,5 grammaa. Calibers: 6.5×55 SE, 270 Win, 270 Wby Mag, 7 mm-08, Rem, 7×57, 7x65R, 7×64, 280 Rem, 7 mm Rem Mag, 7 mm Wby Mag, 7 mm STW, 308 Win, 7.62x53R, 30-06, 300 Win Mag, 300 WSM, 300 Wby Mag, 30-378 Wby Mag, 8.2x53R, 8x57JS, 8x57JRS, 338 Win Mag, 338 Lapua Mag, 340 Wby Mag, 9.3x53R, 9.3x74R, 9.3×62, 9.3×66 Sako, 375 H&H Mag, 416 Rem Mag, 6,5 Creedmoor ja 260 Rem. Allowed for moose, bear, boar, and other animals in the list. These are primarily for reasons of mercy, to increase the likelihood of the animal dying fast. Now, in AFRICA this might be different, since the wildlife is way more dangerous.

[@bobzillaswe4123]

@@jubuttib petty much same in Sweden. But the "moose rifle" is class 1 and the weakest one is class 4.

[@jeffreyroot6300]

jubuttib Exactly! The larger cartridges aren’t necessary to reliably kill the game, but they are needed to reliably stop a dangerous game animal at close range when someone’s life is on the line!

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@jeffreyroot6300 yep. There's a big difference between a round that can ethically take a big critter versus a round that can reliably stop one.

[@ColdDoomOfficial]

"I'm Ian McCollum with Forgotten Weapons, and today we'll be destroying my shoulder"

[@robwilkes3351]

That pith helmet looks quite fitting on Ian due to his facial hair. I'm reminded of Van Pelt from Jumanji.

[@ОлегКозлов-ю9т]

Agree

[@txgunguy2766]

Now, HE had a cool rifle.

[@WJS774]

Especially with the black polymer rifle.

[@txgunguy2766]

@@WJS774 I think that was actually a shotgun. I was talking about the levergun he came out with.

[@WJS774]

@@txgunguy2766 'Lever gun'? It's been many years since I've watched the film, but I don't remember it being a lever gun. That would be a bit odd for an African safari hunter wouldn't it? Anyway, it doesn't matter if it was actually a shotgun, what I was thinking of was the image of the classic safari hunter with a modern looking gun.

[@michaelguerin56]

Just so you know, the .376 Steyr .270 grain load (when shot through a 28” test barrel) equals the original advertised velocity for the .375 H & H .270 grain load which was also fired in a 28” test barrel in order to achieve it’s advertised velocity! Also, the .375 Ruger achieves greater velocity via greater propellant capacity than the .375 H & H case. No magic there. I like the hat!

[@michaelguerin56]

My point was to provide historical perspective. If you want more velocity and energy that is fine BUT many hunters get by very well by loading 100 to 130 year old smokeless chamberings to original factory velocities and sometimes (given that average hunting distances tend to be 30m or less) 5-10 % below those velocities (taking full advantage of modern bullet manufacturing quality standards). The velocity race is an artefact of military specifications. Yes, it can be fun and ... yes higher velocities are a big thing with recreational varmint control BUT it is often more about buying more expensive projectiles, propellants cases, barrels, actions and sights than satisfying an actual need. That being said, each to their own.

[@michaelguerin56]

Cyclone Bravo Not ‘my’ 30-06 (wrong end of the planet) although I do own a rifle in that chambering. As previously stated, I provided some historical context. By the way, there is no practical standard magazine length (which is what really counts) for a ‘short action’. You could describe anything from a Savage Model 20 to a Brno ZKK 601 (or Mexican Mauser) as a short action rifle. The .376 Steyr is a niche cartridge that, in my opinion, will probably become a case-forming project for dedicated users within the next twenty years. I doubt that I will ever acquire one, especially given that a Swedish sporter in 9.3x57 would be easier, cheaper and more practical for me to buy, reload for and use in the local bush although I already have a Brno Volkspolizei Mod. 98 rifle (8.2x57 JS) with a Lyman 57 backsight and a barleycorn foresight that I have filed to create Patridge-style sharp-edges (for good definition). Breathe easy, enjoy your hunting and shooting; and keep yourself and your family safe in these Covid 19 times. I reckon that we have done this topic to death.

[@georgesheffield1580]

376 is loaded to higher pressure than the H&H . The ruger is also loaded to a higher pressure.

[@arbernani4727]

You nailed the cossplay of that Hunter guy from the movie "Jumanji" The first one, with Robin Williams...

[@geraltofrivia323]

that IS the stereotypical english big game hunter taking a trip to Africa to bag exotic game.

[@arbernani4727]

@@geraltofrivia323 Close enough: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mobZaWprha1qgqM

[@ADRay1999]

Van Pelt

[@TurtleStranger]

The good one. The one worth watching.

[@arbernani4727]

@@ADRay1999 Does it matter?

[@genericpersonx333]

irony is that the last guy I knew who actually hunted Big Game in Africa back when there were few, if any rules, was a South African farmer who used an Enfield 1853 rifled musket because it was much cheaper and easier to supply than metallic cartridge weapons. A 600 or so grain slug of lead going a thousand feet or so a second was pretty much all you needed as long as you hit the right spots as you were supposed to. Sure, he had a 7mm Mauser just in case something leaped out of the bushes, but when actually trying to hunt big critters, he went for the rifled musket.

[@RockIslandAuctionCompany]

You convinced me. I want one.

[@ADRay1999]

I hear that you guys over at RIAC will be auctioning off BoB Dalton’s Revolver this September, should be an interesting auction

[@Cakeyflour]

I heard about a big auction house that deals exclusively with guns, they might have one of these at some point. You should keep an eye out! :p

[@jackmurphy6510]

You're going to have to update your video analyzing the scout rifle concept to include its greatest failure: incompatibility with pith helmets.

[@Semyon_Semyonych]

1:58 Well, the first onle ammo vendors emerged around 1997/98. I placed my first ammo online order back in 2004, and back then, there already were quite a number of online ammo sellers. So, I guess that back in 1999, one could find the .376 Styer online.

[@DK-nv9zu]

It's great that Ian doesn't edit his videos to make himself seem like some kind of expert shooter with every shot he takes. Honest, stand-up guy, that loves sharing his knowledge and experiences with the rest of us. Keep up the great content!

[@cs-rj8ru]

I like his videos. I don't think he's all knowing and knowledgeable. It's obvious he does his research before making a video. I've seen him make a few mistakes, not knowing things that should have been obvious to those who know firearms well or have shot extensively.

[@donbow450]

Brenneke would be a nice topic on his own. Inventor of the modern shotgun slug. Inventor of the 7x64 cartrigde. Which is very similar to .270 and quite popular in Germany and also France (were military calibres were forbidden for hunting). (And also the 9,3x64)

[@charlesadams1721]

The .350 Remington Magnum in the 6 lb. Remington 600 rifle was, as they say, 'an experience'. The load was approximating the energy of a .375 H&H I seem to remember. Anyway, it claim to fame that the cartridge packed serious magnum power in a .308/7.62 Nato length cartridge.

[@scottcrawford3745]

.375 H&H- 300 grs. @ 2600fps = 4363 ft/lbs, ( 24" bbl) .350 Rem. Mag. -250grs @ 2576 = 3685 ft/lbs (20"bbl)

[@ginne7268]

@@scottcrawford3745 .359 Magnum does not meet the minimal requirement 😂😂😂😂 its crazy

[@randomidiot8142]

Too bad the mag box was 2.8" and not 3" on the 600/660. It really cuts the horsepower down. I have one and I can verify that it's a handful, and I haven't tried 250's yet, just 180's. At 2400 they are my limit for comfort, about 2600 starts to hurt a good bit. I may try a 358 wsm in the future, I've got a .358 bug lately.

[@damaster77854]

This is going to sound stupid and sappy. My father passed away a few weeks ago and I haven't yet been emotional until watching this video. My dad was (like me) interested in guns that were outside the norm. He always wanted a rifle chambered in .375 H&H simply for the history and the anecdotes that came with it. I haven't really believed in ghosts and haven't cried about someones death until this video. I feel like he is here watching this with me.

[@flyingninja1234]

Paper Elk steaks taste really good when marinated for several hours.

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

5:1 ratio of water to bleach will have them very tender in 30 minutes or so.

[@graham2631]

Ah....it's a little dry but you get a taste for it.

[@lairdcummings9092]

Add some onion paper to go with the mushroom cutout sauce; it's epic.

[@spikespa5208]

Depends on the spices used in the inks.

[@whyjay9959]

Rich in fiber, too.

[@clemensramsauer3851]

I just love seeing you talk about Steyr Mannlicher since i am actually from Steyr, Austria. It fills me with a strange kind of national (or be it more regional) pride! Love your Work!

[@bikecommuter24]

5:30am got up to take pain meds, I pulled a shoulder muscle and see lan shooting big rounds. I can feel my shoulder from his recoil😁

[@petermach8635]

First time I shot a rifle chambered in 0,375" H&H it was using a Ruger No 1 single-shot falling block ..... I had five cartridges to use and chose to shoot sitting down, crossed-legged, at 45 degrees to the target ..... for me a pleasantly stable position, but the first shot bowled me over backwards and off the berm I was sitting atop .... slightly embarrassing in front of a crowd, but I hit the ground, not the rifle .... and I took the final four standing up, it definitely helps absorb the recoil.

[@Plastikdoom]

Hey Ian, if you ever get the chance to do a video on/some shooting, of the bastardized M1 Garands...chambered in .458 Win mag, should definitely do it.

[@thomasrussell2789]

JD Jones from SSK industries did a few of those conversions

[@sethy5136]

Thank you ian for showing us all these cool guns wed likely never see or even know about. Im going through a bit if a rough patch and i really enjoy waking up to a new video every day. Thank you Ian

[@troy9477]

Love the pith helmet. Early in my shooting career i fired offhand a couple of 375 H&H rounds from a customized Sako with a short stock (owner was maybe 5'7"). I was focusing on keeping my eye away from the scope. Recoil wasn't bad, like a heavy push. Nowadays i am heavily interested in the 9.3x62mm, which is a small step down. If i move to AK, which is likely, and get into hunting, it should be great for moose, caribou, and bears. I might also get an AR-10 and an extra upper in 338 Federal (ah, the joys of a free state). I heard somewhere that rebarreled Garands in 35 Whelen are also popular up there. Sounds like an interesting concept. Another cartridge i like the idea of. I have always liked the Scout Rifle concept, and i would like one in 308 with an 18 or 20" barrel. I have a Springfield Scout Squad (18", not the SOCOM), but it is of course a lot heavier than a bolt action scout rifle. Another one that is close is the Savage Hog Hunter. It has a 20" medium weight barrel, so i am sure it does not meet the scout weight spec. But it seems like a nice rifle. I always liked the Steyr, but they are rather rare. Maybe Ruger could make a long action Scout in 35 Whelen- or a short action in 6.5x55 (don't bother me with Creedmoor nonsense; i am a traditionalist). Lots of food for thought. Great video as always. Thank you

[@icarorodrigues8501]

I saw the thumbnail preview and I thought the recoil knocked your hat off

[@targetaps]

.375 Ruger is an awesome cartridge! I now own a .416 ruger guide gun and hand load 350 grain bullets an squeeze nearly 5700ft/lbs from it. For reference, that is considerably more than a .338 lapua. With the muzzle break on, it deafening loud and kicks like a mule. Lots of fun to shoot!

[@EatsBox]

*Ian shoots 375 Ruger *Checks Target: Ah, the weiner shot!

[@nikolasmoralez6911]

Neutered for free

[@DrBunnyMedicinal]

Yeah, that lad won't be siring any more kids, that's for certain.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

F

[@lairdcummings9092]

The deadliest shot.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Hundreds were killed in one shot.

[@Jerry-dk8se]

Your comments cracked me up 😂🤣 "Owww, just for kicks", and "a little more kablooie" LOL. Thanks for showing us these firearms that most of us would probably never see, or shoot.

[@henrykeyter53]

Ian, that helmet is triggering a third Anglo-Boer war...

[@johnalexander2349]

Boer War III - The Boers invade Britain.

[@henrykeyter53]

Nah we don't want to invade Britain. As far as we are concerned it is a cold and miserable place... @Sandy Jones, no there are not a lot of West Africans involved in South Africa's crime. As a white South African farmer I have to admit that the crime in South Africa is rife, it's an endemic really. But that being said, it does appear as if farmers are being targeted. Farms get attacked and people get tortured and murdered with very few things stolen. Also, the rhetoric coming from the government - one settler one bullet / kill a Boer kill a farmer - doesn't help a lot.

[@henrykeyter53]

As a history student In have to applaud you - yes the black people of Southern Africa have originally came from "the land of the lakes" - meaning somewhere between Rwanda and Malawi. But, that being said, the Khoi and the San (separate groups, one being herdsman and the other hunter-gatherers) also came from the North

[@lairdcummings9092]

Looked like Ian was developing some hesitation. Can't blame him; all three cartridges are *stout.*

[@haroldellis9721]

I was hesitating and flinching just watching this.

[@visionist7]

A Stout Steyr Scout

[@danlewis6157]

Thanks for taking six for the team; throwing your body down, so to speak.

[@davesimmons8640]

"Let's see how much I regret this." We've all said that (more than once, in my case). Well done, Ian! Thank you!

[@george5156]

Very similar to"watch this"

[@Will._Power]

BAMMM!!! "Yeah, you'll feel that!" Ian, we love your understatements.....Hats off to you sir!

[@nickverbree]

There's always something magical about Ian cycling a bolt left handed. It just looks SOOO smooth.

[@cs-rj8ru]

Reminds me a little of a 3 legged dog

[@phillipdavis3053]

Thank you...I've been looking at .376 Steyr for the past few days.. Scarce on the resale market.

[@DSlyde]

Idk if its just an artifact of the specific recording conditions or if its just accurate, but these sound EXACTLY like what big game hunter rifles sound like in old movies and cartoons. Its perfect

[@ExtremKeks]

Ian got me hooked on a scout the first time he showed one. Love your work!

[@infamousfalcon588]

Early. Nice scout. And a glorious helmet.

[@mbmann3892]

Reminds me of the helmet from spaceballs.

[@edhorton3775]

That's what she said! 🤣 sorry couldn't help myself...

[@killerpanda27]

Ian's hunting the most dangerous game today

[@johnm3907]

If glorious you mean stupid looking.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

You ever study the Zulu Wars?

[@awbernardy]

I own a Steyr Pro Hunter 20" barrel 376 Steyr... when standing it is not bad but shooting off sand bags it is not to fun... when I first got mine the only bullets I could find were the 300gr Nosler Partitions and 300gr Hornady DGS I made up a load with BL-C2 1.5gr from max just something to shoot... I shot 7 loads of that and took the rest apart.. with the harder plastic pad on my pro hunter that load was not fun at all on sand bags.... My favorite load so far is the 235gr Speer Hot Cor I have managed to keep MOA groups out to 300 Yards and was able to hit a 15" steal plate at 550yards with this load.... From a handloaders side I love the 376 Steyr...

[@ElBach1y]

Damn those 300gr rounds sound HOT!

[@jonathanenglish9146]

At least Ian didn't have to worry about "scope eye" with the recoil on a scout mounted scope.

[@rainmaker1346]

Lost right eye long time ago and had to start shooting left handed. Made controlling recoil a whole different game. I never bought left handed guns. Interesting watching you shoot right handed gun left handed. Good Video. Thanks.

[@GustavoRubioGSR]

Nice vid!! As for the falling spare magazine maybe if it is loaded it may fall due to the added weight of the ammo.

[@WingMaster562]

Ian is taking quick scopes, but wants something cheaper and more elegant than the AWP.

[@DRZEKEZEKE]

@gsxtr1 i mean he's making counterstrike jokes, are we really going to pull out our grammar books for a little bit of cheeky fun?

[@cluner24]

@gsxtr1 quick scope

[@xanniieeyy]

Poor man AWP

[@nelsonglover3963]

@gsxtr1 if you get what he means who gives a shit?

[@Getpojke]

BANG! Earthworms and flying insects beware!, could almost have gotten away with saying "No targets were harmed in this video." Still a few got on target. :) Nice to see some large calibres getting fired, really enjoyable video Ian.

[@hansmueller3029]

Lovin the larping. It's one of the things that keeps this channel fun

[@nunyabeeswax2575]

"Alright for our 375 H&H we have a model 70, pre '64 of course..." But of course old chap, one must keep up ones standards you know.

[@yourmom4784]

*Cries in post 64 Model 70*

[@georgesheffield1580]

RUGER ,REMINGTON, ,SAVAGE, KIMBER and many others besides Winnie make 375 H&H. I'II STICK WITH MY 500 ,3IN NITRO EXPRESS DOUBLE .

[@mikeemmons1079]

This scout is like those 5 foot 4 guys who lift weights to an excessive degree and end up wider than they are tall. What a mutant. Even so, it is still a scout when all is said and done. Nice hat.

[@Pcm979]

This is more of a Steyr Shout.

[@ellismidkiff6117]

My shoulder hurts just from watching. Great stuff.

[@johnnyappleseed6415]

Hmmm, I can, either, afford the hat OR the ammo but not both...

[@TurtleStranger]

They come packaged together in some places.

[@ScottKenny1978]

Only have to buy the hat once.

[@Wppk765]

Hat 100% -edit: checked out prices of .375 h&h...$4 (US) / shot....I’m sticking with the hat!

[@ahoneyman]

You can get 375 H&H for a LOT less than $4 a round, even under $2 a round if you look. A lot of guys roll their own so the price is even cheaper. No, it isn't Wolf .223 cheap but you don't mag dump 375 H&H either.

[@Toysrme]

I loved Steyr Scouts, and LOVED my .376 Steyr Scout. We use to play switcharoo with my 308w when people were not looking LoL! I sold it thinking it was going to be around & found out it went out of production & became a complete unicorn!

[@1248dl]

When shooting Dangerous Game Rifles (DGRs) from the bench one should do so from an erect sitting position, not leaning into the gun. I've shot 375 H&H and 416 Rigby from the bench twenty to sixty rounds at a sitting from that position. No, I'm not a masochist but I was developing loads for hunting. The felt recoil has a lot to do with the mass of the gun and how the stock fits.

[@klixxalot]

I am glad you finally got something capable of graboid hunting out there. I was worried about you.

[@mkfreel]

2 rounds of H&H...there goes my patreon money for the last few months. Well spent!

[@consumerofstuff7854]

I've been pronouncing it wrong for years. Normally I wouldn't trust an American on the pronunciation of anything, but this is Ian. Great channel with informative videos. Thank you

[@zmanjace1364]

Ian was a big game hunter. He shot so goddamn fast... You know, bc he looks like Les Claypool? From Primus? I'll show myself out...

[@moosemaimer]

I'll be a wealthy man when I get a dime for all the things that man had taught to me

[@leetyre5107]

...never did win no Wimbledon Cup, but he never did come in last.

[@brillenfux4687]

You suck!

[@stevet6993]

Dog will hunt

[@Muddy_Graves]

Oh god, I can hear that bass line now...

[@thecatwithatophat4069]

Listening to this video with a good pair of headphones is something else. The gunshots are nice and loud, just like they should be.

[@d33b33]

I'm reminded of the classic horror stories of hunters who lean back against a tree to steady their aim.

[@geekmansegraves]

I flinched reading your comment. I can't imagine that sledgehammer of recoil going entirely into the shoulder from these rifles.

[@3928damian]

Definitely not in the same class as a .375, but the first gun I ever fired (that wasn't a .22lr) was a break action, single 20g H&R. Very light. I was 8'ish. Dad had me back up to the rear tire of a friend's farm tractor. I don't know if he did it on purpose or not, but I refused to fire a shotgun again for 5 years...

[@tarmaque]

@@3928damian I can shoot a 20Ga all day long, but obviously not leaning back into anything! My Brother back in the 80's "won" a _single-shot 10Ga_ shotgun for selling magazine subscriptions to the Northwest Hunting and Fishing News. It made sense for him because he was hunting a lot of geese at the time. He took one shot with the 10Ga and never shot it again. I've still got the remainder of that box of ammunition. Dunno what ever happened to the shotgun. He want back to Dad's double barrel 12Ga after that, a heavier gun with less recoil and a backup shot on hand.

[@3928damian]

@@tarmaque I've no problem with shotguns now. In fact, my go-to turkey load is a 3.5" 12g. That light 20g though, especially when I was used to nothing more powerful than .22lr, and with my (much smaller than now) shoulder wedged between it and a huge tire... Ouch!

[@yourmom4784]

@@3928damian The first time I ever shot something bigger than 12 gauge birdshot was a 3" 12 gauge turkey load while I was leaning against a tree. I got the turkey but the recoil was stout enough I dropped the gun.

[@FordBoy93]

I think it's safe to say that Ian isn't going to be partaking in any hunting trips after I seen that...... Awesome video Ian and love the shoot demos

[@theblackbaron4119]

You look like the image of a modern major general. I'm trying really hard to not break out into song here.

[@hughbrackett343]

Undoubtedly he can tell at sight a chassep"t rifle from a javelin

[@Assassinus2]

Hugh Brackett But is he sufficiently wary at such affairs as sorties and surprises?

[@lairdcummings9092]

Too late. That (pirate) ship has already sailed.

[@rickc2102]

He is the very model Of a modern firearms youtuber

[@marko11kram]

ughhhhh now that song will be stuck in my head

[@lanceluthor6660]

Kind of refreshing to work with guns in a very different style than usual. 3 very nice but very different rifles.

[@PhotogNT]

So you don't subscribe to the 1890's British concept of when you shoot the rifle, who ever gets up first wins. 😂😂

[@johntuffin6665]

I love the idea of the scout rifle and Mr. Cooper. Can you do a video of what you think are the best scout rifles?

[@WardenWolf]

My take: modern LPVO's have fully obsoleted the scout rifle concept. Scout rifles are front-heavy and while the more-limited scope technology of the 80's and 90's allowed the concept some viability, the vastly improved optics we have now have completely removed the need for it. That's not to say the Steyr Scout isn't still an excellent rifle, particularly since they designed it so you could still mount a traditional scope to it. I'd gladly own one, but I'd mount my scope traditionally.

[@brianwilson4861]

One of the reasons Cooper wanted the scope mounted so far forward was so that the rifle could be reloaded with stripper clips. What is an "LPVO"? Low power variable optic? The scope doesn't make it as muzzle heavy as it would be if it had a heavy barrel and a scope mounted in the traditional location. Muzzle heavy is generally fine because we support the rifle underneath. Muzzle light and the stock wants to slip off your shoulder and the forend doesn't rest in your far hand. you have to put your far hand on top of the rifle to keep it from pointing skyward. nearly all rifles are muzzle heavy and it's better to be way to muzzle heavy then just a little muzzle light.

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

@@brianwilson4861 I don’t think modern guns are built for stripper clips anymore. I could be wrong though.

[@MrPanzerDragoon]

Love these outdoor gun lesson and shooting range videos (any video, not just rifles)!!!!!

[@charlesphillips4575]

Regarding the spare magazine falling out; was it loaded? A full mag is a lot more likely to fall than and empty one.

[@jameshealy4594]

You could see the rounds in it (but I'm watching on a 34" monitor so I have an unfair advantage).

[@kevinzanahogan]

I've never had that issue with mine

[@whitdodge1851]

@@jameshealy4594 This is the greatest casual flex I have ever seen

[@jameshealy4594]

@@whitdodge1851 Totally wasn't meant to be but I see how it reads like that! Barely cost me any more than people pay for regular monitors all the time at big box stores.

[@GunnerAsch1]

I have..and have used the 375 H&H on big game..Grizz and elk. Works just fine. I also cast for it..works good on yotes and bunnies with a LOT less recoil.

[@ADRay1999]

Speaking of the scout rifle in general, has anyone thought of combining the scout rifle concept and apply it to Karl and Ian’s wwsd (what would Stoner do) project?

[@pscwplb]

I'd think that the concepts are fundamentally incompatible. Bolt action is useless on a service rifle and semi auto is illegal for hunting in way too many areas.

[@wintermute1]

The difference between the Scout concept and WWSD is that the Scout was invented from whole clothe for a fictional character, seriously Cooper was inspired by a novel. WWSD is based on more real world applications

[@Jiberwocky]

Interesting thought, I wonder what form something like that would take.

[@ScottKenny1978]

POF Rogue rifle.

[@5000rgb]

@@wintermute1 I just can't get with the scout scope. I think Ian did a video on why the scout rifle idea is flawed.

[@14goldmedals]

Ian, I have a LH Weatherby Mark V in 378 Wby. You’re welcome to add it in a future mix!

[@1SaG]

Ian shooting the Scout, 9 Hole Reviews teasing us with their upcoming AWM-video ... is this "Old-School-Counter-Strike-week" ...? ;)

[@russelljack5790]

Great vlog and an awesome hat Ian!

[@lairdcummings9092]

"Optics and magnification are nice." My aging eyes: "Oof, yes."

[@JimYeats]

This was Ian’s most natural appearing outfit. The pith helmet fits him well.

[@killin8545]

When you want an awp, but your going eco.

[@dadinkle]

We missed you ian, our magical gun guru

[@myrandomchannel7043]

Man last time I was this early John Browning was still designing the 1911.

[@RalphReagan]

Browning?

[@notforsaletoday1895]

Wtf Sam Colt died long before that. You mean John Browning.

[@myrandomchannel7043]

My mistake thanks for correcting me

[@rangerryz1490]

I'm a ranger from south africa. The reason why we use. 375 h&h and upwards is because of thick skin game such as rhino hippo elephant and cape Buffalo. From an eco tourism point of view this is only used as a last resort of protecting yourself on a walking safari. Never had to put an animal down but sure have been charged a lot... Other popular calibers amongst us rangers are . 458 lott. And. 416 rigby

[@DesKaisersMarineOffizier14]

375 H&H is pretty heavy to shoot in terms of kick . And people wine if they shoot an AK in 7.62x39

[@jeffreyroot6300]

You’re kidding, right? Intermediate cartridges are designed to be easy to shoot. Almost as bad as people complaining about .45 ACP!

[@christopherdean1326]

Back when I had a firearms certificate (and the money to go shooting!) I had a Ruger No1 in 30.06 with a lightweight barrel. One guy at my club (bigger than me) took one shot and handed it back to me. Another guy, when I told him what calibre it was, didn't want to go anywhere near it! Some people are just "recoil shy". Not me, I have shot clay pigeon with a muzzle loading 8 bore!

[@DesKaisersMarineOffizier14]

@@jeffreyroot6300 I should've been more accurate. I mean that is has a lot of kick and blowback and don't complain about it would heard to shoot it. Of course after about 50 rounds you are gonna change your opinion because that is what you are feeling in your shoulder in the next morning

[@jeffreyroot6300]

Man I love the AUG Change my opinion if the 7.62x39? I don’t think so, but extended shooting of 12 gauge and .30-06 left me feeling it! I’m not really tempted to try the .375s. And I have no practical purpose for them either! What gets me are the people who complain about a 5.56. One person complained they got a bruised shoulder from qualifying with an M16A2. I found that hard to believe, that’s just a light push to the shoulder.

[@DesKaisersMarineOffizier14]

@@jeffreyroot6300 Tbh I habe sadly never shot 30.06. But I plan to change it. I don't want to change your mind and also would say that it can differ between people what they would say hearts to shoot and what not but of course a shotgun slug will heart after shooting it continueesly, I'm 100% on you with that. I would (I know this is crasy but still) want to experience the feeling of a handheld minigun. I always see this ridiculess super unrealistic video games where 1 man RUNS around with like an M134 and shoot it without stopping. If that would be possible I want to do that for an hour.

[@gebogen1383]

Actually, one of my favorite videos of late. Can we get some more historical big game rifles to see?

[@Furri1bia]

Thus Gun Jesus suffereth the recoil for our sins.

[@paulsimmons5726]

My M70 Safari Express in 375H&H lets you know when you press the trigger but it's not that harsh. It's an FN South Carolina rifle and the stock design delivers perceived recoil somewhere above a 30-06 and below a 300Win. It feels more like a sturdy shove than a punch, kinda like a 1911/45acp compared to a Glock in 40s&w. Anything past a 30-06 makes good stock design a must! Ian, you'd like my 375H&H because of the improved Winchester stock design.

[@theultimateshadowgunmercen751]

It's all for the meme of fat scout

[@iuploadherebecauseimnotbuy7236]

we need that time machine tech ASAP. Ian and Teddy Roosevelt, near dusk at the hunting camp. Talking about the days performance of these rounds and weapons...it would be so Epic

[@HUKIT.]

The PITH is definitely one of the dumbest looking military helmets that was ever issued

[@williamsullivan9401]

Wait until you find out what "pith" is.

[@demonprinces17]

Meant to keep your head cool

[@thefez-cat]

Also based on a kind of Filipino hat. Most are made out of cork, though one kind is made out of sholapith. The idea was to keep the hat light.

[@charlesmckinley29]

The range I belonged to in 1999 was a Steyr dealer. Those are a nice rifle.

[@maxk5038]

For all we know .376 Steyr could become a thing sometime in the future. Thanks for the interesting video!

[@oloflarsson407]

Ians finger hitting the sling swivel on the Ruger M77 in .375 Ruger, is one reason, why most African big game rifles, have the sling swivel on the barrel. The other reason, is to make the rifle better balanced, while being carried slinged over the shoulder. The later because those rifles tend to have longer and thicker barrels, than something more...pedestrian, like a 8x57 or .30-06, that in turn makes the rifles more front heavy.

[@nicklasodh]

The thing with the sling was also used when firing the Kpist M45 (swedisk K) back in the 90s.

[@AL-Doody]

5:35 that was a much larger bang than I was expecting, it looks like a BB gun but certainly does not act like one

[@duanewellenkamp984]

I have a 376 Steyr rifle but with the pro hunter stock configuration. I absolutely love it albeit it is a bit much for most North American game. Hopefully an elk hunt will be in its future.

[@innercityprepper]

Next year, new channel: Forgotten Hats.

[@kevinzanahogan]

I bought a 308 and a 376 steer scout in the early 2000's. The 308 was a real tack driver, superbly accurate. I still have the 376 as my go to rifle. It just seemed like every time I needed a rifle I grabbed the 376 instead of the 308. Probably because most of the time when something was going bump in the night it had big teeth and claws.

[@FangBlah]

Thank you John Cooper for the 10mm as well. :)

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@slick_slicers]

I always shot fullbore bolt-action rifles prone (I was at school) and I hadn’t thought about why the recoil was such a killer, especially for the smaller kids. When I was an adult, it was semi-auto (FAL) or machine guns, so no issues however they were fired.

[@pault.mccain6637]

That scope has some incredible eye relief evidently.

[@elund408]

The scout scope, is long eye relief so the shooter can keep both eyes open and have good vision around the area, highly helpful in a place where shots are close and the targeted game eats you. it also allows very quick snap shots and shots on running game. it takes some time in the field to get used to it, it is not a great range scope for shooting tiny little groups at 300 yrds.

[@sniperfreak223]

That pain from getting rapped by the sling swivel is why so many dangerous game rifles have the forward sling swivel mounted to the barrel instead of the stock.

[@cs-rj8ru]

Or maybe it just has to do with the barrel on these rifles be a very handy mounting point, being essentially a truck axle.