STILL WORTH IT? Sequential Prophet 6 - 5 Years Later

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Noir Et Blanc Vie

Noir Et Blanc Vie

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@sonicneutronic
@sonicneutronic 4 жыл бұрын
Warmest, darkest, most beautiful sounding synth in production....
@a.krawion1872
@a.krawion1872 4 жыл бұрын
Moog grandmother and matriarch?
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
It’s deliciously somber!
@snuppssynthchannel
@snuppssynthchannel 4 жыл бұрын
Its one of the better ones, but you might want to check out the Baloran The River, with moog source oscillators, wholy moly it sounds good. Its up there with polys like the Oberheim Matrix 12 and Yamaha Cs-80, soundwise!
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds so much way better than the early demos.
@snuppssynthchannel
@snuppssynthchannel 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikel5163 I own a sub 37, and it does not stand a chance against the Grandmother and Matriarch, the difference is in the oscillators, which are far more comparable to the mini moog model D, in the Matriarch and Granny. As for the peak, its really flimsy and weak sounding. Most virtual analogues sound better then it and the summit.
@lknez13
@lknez13 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I'm a guitarist and trying to get into synths and stuff so I've been watching a ton of videos lately and that sound at 0:20 is one of the best tones ever. So lush and relaxing yet so full and juicy. Love the video!!
@neighborhoodturnt
@neighborhoodturnt 3 жыл бұрын
I like 0:41 it’s perfect
@N-trepid1
@N-trepid1 4 жыл бұрын
THAT was so well put together! Loved the discussion. "Instead of chasing the gear, I just made music". Touche! :)
@xankyxankyxanky
@xankyxankyxanky 4 жыл бұрын
This video came crazy perfect. I bought a Prophet 6 21 days ago and there are a few days left to give it back. Didn't want to before this video and it didn't change that. :) Thanks!
@Sound_ology
@Sound_ology 4 жыл бұрын
Great composition on the intro! I've had my Prophet 6 for about 4 years now and I still use it every day. It's also the most expensive piece of gear I own, but I really wanted to buy something that had zero compromises on the sound. I think it's still in its own class, along with the OB-6.
@shahruzmoshtael
@shahruzmoshtael 4 жыл бұрын
I have an OB-6, p6, p12. The p6 would be my one desert island synth.
@N-trepid1
@N-trepid1 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I fretted over the OB vs the P6 for months. Went with the OB for its character. That said, I can see how the P6 is a more flexible, beautiful sounding instrument.
@shahruzmoshtael
@shahruzmoshtael 4 жыл бұрын
James Hall yeah the OB-6 is definitely amazing too, unmatched sound
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Really? Wow I am torn! I've been debating P6 or OB6 as my next purchase for a long long time. What is that you like more about the P6?
@shahruzmoshtael
@shahruzmoshtael 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilesAwayOfficial I like them both a lot, they're just different. The p6 might have a bit more versatility, but the OB-6 has its own really unique sound. I have the OB-6 module and the p6 keyboard, that probably has to do with the p6 being my desert island synth :)
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
@@shahruzmoshtaelAwesome to hear. I think that the OB-6 would be more for me then since I already have a Summit for versatility. I love characterful synths!
@WilliamStewart-op2dz
@WilliamStewart-op2dz 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my Prophet 6 for a little over a year now. It’s easily the most expensive gear I’ve owned. It’s an excellent synth, too. The only issue I have with it is the price. It’s a simple synth, with a straightforward interface. A simple price would make it a no brainer, but that price tag makes it impractical. It does sound excellent, but I haven’t made up my mind on whether or not I’m keeping it.
@kyleplatz3751
@kyleplatz3751 4 жыл бұрын
If you aren't, let me know.
@SyncdAlien
@SyncdAlien 4 жыл бұрын
A lovely retrospective, thank you.
@AntonBarbeauOfficial
@AntonBarbeauOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a P6 in Berlin in 2016. Love that thing endlessly. I've never "played" a synth as much as I do this one... hours plonking away as if it's a Steinway. It's on all my recordings. I've been in California since March, thanks to the pandemic. Couldn't bear being apart from my Prophet 6 so I bought a second one. I have a decent bunch of great and groovy synths, including a Prophet 5. If it came down to using only a single synth, the P6 would be it, no question.
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 4 жыл бұрын
YES! Even with the new Prophet-5 and 10. It's gorgeous and simple. Just has such a sweet spot of functionality vs simplicity.
@dmomcilovic9185
@dmomcilovic9185 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Bellamy , p5 not for me, too expensive , P6 does it all
@danpreston564
@danpreston564 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Dave decided not to stick to his 'never again' mantra.
@bepitan
@bepitan 4 жыл бұрын
well that was pre behringer...rules have changed now.
@Nosh_Feratu
@Nosh_Feratu 2 жыл бұрын
only just discovered this channel, love it, excellent stuff! Currently looking at a P6 module, either that or an OB-6 Module. I deserve both really 😉 R.I.P Dave...the mans legacy left to music is immeasurable!
@GuitarsAndSynths
@GuitarsAndSynths 2 жыл бұрын
yeah sad news that Dave passed so soon as he is a legend in the synth world.
@Nosh_Feratu
@Nosh_Feratu 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuitarsAndSynths always seemed such a humble, lovely chap aswell. Very sad.
@coltranius
@coltranius 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual. Thanks for your work. My request: more of your music! I love the intros, backing music, and snippets. I can only imagine your full stuff must be great.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
I have lots of music on the KZbin audio library, I I’ll make a full release by end of 2020, typically I’ve always been a player or producer on other artists music.
@paulbitea
@paulbitea 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say, I also would really like to hear a release from you. The vids of you playing, there’s some awesome tracks I relistened a good few times! P.s. the prophet 6 is my dream synth, it’s gonna appear in my future, I can’t wait!
@natbvm1880
@natbvm1880 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@mentataudio
@mentataudio 4 жыл бұрын
Love the discussion of what makes an instrument connect with you, not just a list of tech specs.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying this, I’ve tried extremely hard to push that instruments are about the entire experience NOT just the sound, or feature off a piece of paper. No one can be unbiased when talking about a piece, it’s impossible, it’s based off too many variables. We can’t even trust ourselves to speak objectively, so I keep it subjective 100% of the time.
@mentataudio
@mentataudio 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie Was trying to explain to a friend the other day why I might have some music hardware that costs so much and technically can't do any more than I could do for cheap with software. You put it well, it's about instruments and your relationship with them and expression you can achieve with them.
@TenThumbsProductions
@TenThumbsProductions 4 жыл бұрын
When I go to the USA I go synth shopping. When I can finally get there because of Covid I am going to grab this one and a Moog Matriarch.
@R3V1ZION
@R3V1ZION 3 жыл бұрын
Treat yourself!
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 3 жыл бұрын
@@R3V1ZION hahahaah, this comment is classic 🥳
@TenThumbsProductions
@TenThumbsProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonybucks5709 if I can find it in Colombia, where I live, it is about 1500 to 2000 dollars more expensive.
@pretty.noodles3540
@pretty.noodles3540 3 жыл бұрын
@@TenThumbsProductions Might as well get a vacation and a few cheeseburgers out of it.
@AdamSpade
@AdamSpade 3 жыл бұрын
Shoot me a message if you need a friend near Sweetwater, cause that is where you will want to go. Fort Wayne.
@t.michaelbodine4341
@t.michaelbodine4341 Жыл бұрын
badass instrument. Thanks for the video. The controls and indicators on the Prophet are my favorite on any synth period.
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 3 жыл бұрын
“I did it once, I‘m not doing it again“ (Dave Smith about the P5). Ha ha!
@waterfallstrainer
@waterfallstrainer Жыл бұрын
That patch starting at :20sec is incredible. Love the tune too.
@sasarasa88
@sasarasa88 4 жыл бұрын
I would revisit this question now that the newest firmware includes the vintage knob
@davidgreenhalgh3946
@davidgreenhalgh3946 3 жыл бұрын
Great honest review. I also love the sound of the prophet 6. I'm not a techie and it sometimes seems you have to be one to make electronic music. But it's the making music bit that matters to me.
@SamuelLaflamme
@SamuelLaflamme 4 жыл бұрын
With the new Vintage knob option in the 1.6.3 Beta firmware update, this brings the P6 tons of sweetspots!!!
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, new features in my good ole Prophet 6....nice! Thanks for the heads up, I’ll check it out!
@rico-3687
@rico-3687 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I love it! "Maxed out CC and opened a Guitar Center card" much love man! We've all been there 😆
@aardjazz
@aardjazz 4 жыл бұрын
Great passionate review. appreciated :).
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 жыл бұрын
What a lovely tribute. Very personal and very heartfelt.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Ball thanks Alex! Prophet 6 has never let me down. Still a great buy, even with 4 less LFOs lol
@MichaelDowComposer
@MichaelDowComposer 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back man. Still the best video's out there on synths.
@nailbiter82
@nailbiter82 4 жыл бұрын
Most slept on synth channel.
@100ThingsIDo
@100ThingsIDo 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, its so immediate when you play and tweak it you always know there is gold just about to come out of the sound! I've been tempted to sell the Pro2 a few times but never the Prophet 6 :D
@ezrashanti
@ezrashanti 4 жыл бұрын
Pro 3 tho right? ;)
@100ThingsIDo
@100ThingsIDo 4 жыл бұрын
@@ezrashanti I think I prefer having the Pro2... it has some tricks the pro3 doesn't :D
@ReadAndReturn
@ReadAndReturn 4 жыл бұрын
Diving headfirst into this channel now. Thanks man for taking the time to make these vids! Own a Prophet Rev2 and love it!
@HorrorCue
@HorrorCue 4 жыл бұрын
Love my prophet 6. It is a beast and sometimes takes a second to tame...but if you just take a moment, smoke a joint, this synth can take you there. People say the filter is harsh, and it can be...but just don’t open it that much and you’ll be fine. But it can get there if you want it to. It can be whatever u want it to be
@maedaeburning
@maedaeburning 3 жыл бұрын
The sequence you play at the beginning is really beautiful, deeply textured. I love it! Thank you for your thoughts, not that I can afford either but with the prophet 5 out my brain can't decide between which it wants more lmao
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I couldn't afford it either at the time, so I'm with you :) Thank you for the compliment on the composition, it was originally a piano piece from maybe 6 years or more ago. Prophet 6 vs Prophet 5...it's an easy choice. OB6 ;)
@maedaeburning
@maedaeburning 3 жыл бұрын
[wallet pain intensifies]
@dalelaushman8749
@dalelaushman8749 4 жыл бұрын
I've also had mine for 5 years and it was the impetus for me to setup my studio again after a 10 year hiatus. The things that initially attracted me to the P6 still hold; simplicity, quality. Its quickly and easily useful in my electronic compositions without losing the flow. The quality of the design, sonic character and materials have made it a classic. It just might be my desert-island synth...another octave would have been nice tho.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely a desert island synth for me, it’s not the fanciest, but then when you break down the feature set its enough and more, plus somehow you can get where you wanna be without a screen, who knew!
@danielsaintmusic
@danielsaintmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, beautiful video. Sounds, cinematics, script, excellent work! Subbed
@danielsaint2
@danielsaint2 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful song bro that was so inspiring, and great video!
@yasumu3960
@yasumu3960 2 жыл бұрын
Yo thanks for the video! Was the first patch from their preset bank?
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 2 жыл бұрын
Not exactly, it is a preset, but I edited it.
@yasumu3960
@yasumu3960 2 жыл бұрын
Noir Et Blanc Vie sounds so lovely
@mamamurphy3860
@mamamurphy3860 4 жыл бұрын
great video. i really liked that you went into its history and such. subbed.
@makes_synth_to_me9025
@makes_synth_to_me9025 4 жыл бұрын
The P6 is such a workhorse synth. It covers so much ground, def a keeper. It's simplicity oddly makes up for its lack of more modern complexity IMO.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, it’s not about the bells and whistles here, it gives you just enough for what you’d practically need. It could go further with the polymod section.
@ThePedroAPB
@ThePedroAPB 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie but at this price point, why not get a deckards dream?
@mrdavies7894
@mrdavies7894 4 жыл бұрын
Your video highlights what I love about Dave Smith and all the Sequential instruments: they're all just a little bit different from each other which really allows one to find the right instrument in the lineup. There's a baseline quality and craftsmanship that is the hallmark of all DS instruments, but - unlike some other manufacturers that come to mind - I never feel like they are shooting in the dark or trying to get the feature combination that will sell the most. They recognise they're a niche player in a niche market and deliver exactly what each product is; neither a one-size-fits-all nor a feature cram. For me, that instrument is the Rev2 and I feel exactly as passionate as you express about the ~6. The ~6 is really close! But the Rev2 nails what I needed in an analogue sound designing machine. There are some things that annoy me about the Rev2 - lack of direct patch access (a nice plus in the ~6!), lackluster effects, no inline high-pass filtre - but in the studio I have rack FX and on the stage I don't care! The sound, ultimately, is SO GOOD! I kept thinking, "I should get one of these FPGA synths" or, "what about a digital with analogue modelling?" but the raw sound out of the jacks was the first and last determining factor for me, and I think that's really what all of us DS fans come back to the most. Thanks for a great retrospective.
@jayunito
@jayunito 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t justify it on top of my Rev2 and Tempest... but the OB6 👀 👌
@NicolasMelis
@NicolasMelis 4 жыл бұрын
spot on !
@YonatanLidar
@YonatanLidar 7 ай бұрын
I was saving up for a Juno 60 but definitely gonna get a prophet 6 to pair up with my Mopho x4
@modernhumantv
@modernhumantv 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and exactly how I feel about the simple, no menu diving interface. I have an OB6, but they have very similar design philosophies. I always thought I was the guy who liked menu diving and tweaking. But the OB6 changed my mind. It just lets you create and not worry about chasing the sound, cause it always sounds great. Cheers!
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree, I was the same. Looking at a synth and then playing it and being like, “huh, what more do I actually need?” That’s how I feel about it. Makes me think all those super deep synths were technical marvels, but not practically real world useful.
@modernhumantv
@modernhumantv 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie Definitely! You can tell that musicians are behind the Sequential stuff. Thanks for the sharing the video.
@kieranmeehan5355
@kieranmeehan5355 4 жыл бұрын
Man love this page 👍🏻
@angeldc54
@angeldc54 3 жыл бұрын
While I agree on the no menus approach, it really makes me crazy not to have program names. Having to rely on a number to find a favorite program is just absurd imo, so I write down on a text file the program's names. And no, I don't plan to buy the crappy soundtower software just to be able to see the program's names. Other than that, it's a superb synth indeed.
@sAllylikesbloodJ
@sAllylikesbloodJ 4 жыл бұрын
Thinking about pulling the trigger on a P6 to complement the fizzy sounds of my OB-6. Sort of wish Sequential would just announce their new synth already so I can just pull the trigger :D
@bluest1524
@bluest1524 Жыл бұрын
I loved it, just wonder if it bothers you that the keys feel so cheap?
@cgereueu
@cgereueu Жыл бұрын
I got my Prophet 6 in 2015. 8 years later, everything you are saying here still holds up. It is in my opinion irreplicable synth. Unfortunately today it costs $1,400 more than I paid for it. It is simply too expensive for most people.
@steelesaldutti
@steelesaldutti 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my P6 when it first came out. Never regretted it. So much versatility, the interface is simple yet inspiring, and I still feel like I'm just scratching the surface. Definitely would recommend if you have that hankering for hardware. If not, just get the Arturia soft synths and your productions will be just as well off.
@TinoFiumaraBeats
@TinoFiumaraBeats 4 жыл бұрын
I'm planning to buy my first poly synth (I have a Moog GM), the P6 is one of my options, along with the U.D.O. Super 6 and the Rev2 + something else. Can't decide, maybe I'll wait until NAMM 2021 too see what's going on and save more money.
@Veluvian
@Veluvian 4 жыл бұрын
I also own Moog Granny and P6 was my next choice for sure. But just like you I would wait until January for the next NAMM edition because Dave Smith may release new polyphony, may be 8 voices, may be more modulation matrixes, who knows... I remember when I bought Korg Minilogue, they just released Minilogue XD 3 months later and I was so mad :D :D so I guess I should wait for a bit.
@NickCapron
@NickCapron 4 жыл бұрын
Cool info about the Sequential name, that was a really classy move by Yamaha
@ivorydungeon909
@ivorydungeon909 4 жыл бұрын
Classy move by Roland too
@JaredNichols909
@JaredNichols909 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to own a P6, though it probably won’t happen. I already have a Prophet Rev2, a Novation Summit, and Juno 106, plus I just bought the Pro 3. That along with my Moog Subsequent 37 and Grandmother, plus all my modular stuff covers pretty much every synth sound I need, though I’d still gladly love one for all the reasons you mentioned. I love immediate synths. Good job, Bud.
@JaredNichols909
@JaredNichols909 3 жыл бұрын
@ghost mall Thank you. That is a very good idea. If you were going to buy an analog poly synth for $2500 (give or take), would it be a P6? Curious to know your preference
@lorenzogrilli21
@lorenzogrilli21 8 ай бұрын
next year you should do a 10 year review. That be dope. Do you still have it tho?
@Matthewsavant
@Matthewsavant 4 жыл бұрын
I’m dying to add a big analog poly to my arsenal but I can’t decide between the new prophet 6/new oberhiem or something vintage...in the mean time I’ve settled for paraphonic mode in the Pro2 and poly mode in the Analog four
@slimk3836
@slimk3836 3 жыл бұрын
Im selling my prophet 6... great synth but dont have the time to invest in it as it deserves, great thing is these have pretty decent resale value compared to some out there
@nepntzerZer
@nepntzerZer 3 жыл бұрын
its probably the most point and shoot synth you could of had. if you didn't have time for this you probably need better time management skills.
@rozzgrey801
@rozzgrey801 4 жыл бұрын
If you can't afford a Prophet 6 but want THAT sound, check out the DSI Toraiz AS1, which is a one voice Prophet 6, like a Pro-One version of it, the most underrated synth ever!
@luisbarrera5740
@luisbarrera5740 2 ай бұрын
What's wild about this is that I can make every songle prophet 6 sound on Minilogue XD. If I want a change in flavor or increase LFOs I can use a free user oscillator. What a great time for synths.
@michaelpierce3264
@michaelpierce3264 4 жыл бұрын
Love this synth Supa big sounds yes the VCOs made the difference the high pass with resonance is my spice on this monster. No need for more lfos only two short comings on this beast why the shorty keybed? and why no patch naming ? I keep re writing patches over. Oh and do try the mfb synth pro lovely vintage sounding three VCOs two filters eight voices multitimbral about the size of a volca $1,100
@colewilliams9716
@colewilliams9716 3 жыл бұрын
shout out to the polarity flip between the R+L channels at 3:20
@RottenRotny
@RottenRotny 4 жыл бұрын
One LFO is kind of a deal breaker for me, but in my limited experiences with the P6 it does what it does beautifully.
@eraofacidrain
@eraofacidrain 4 жыл бұрын
Limited experience with the P6 but what about experience with the P9? Ehhhh? Eh?....I’ll see myself out...
@RottenRotny
@RottenRotny 4 жыл бұрын
@@eraofacidrain lol wow
@RiczWest
@RiczWest 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I'd never buy one, but great review - it's always interesting to hear what attracts people to various instruments and I'm glad you still love your Prophet 6 :)
@13amplifiers
@13amplifiers 4 жыл бұрын
Even better now with the newest firmware update. The Slop function can be switched to a Vintage function to bring the Prophet 6 closer to sounding like the Prophet 5 Rev 4.
@kvmoore1
@kvmoore1 3 жыл бұрын
But Dave Smith did it again with the Prophet 5/10 REV 4, a wonderful looking and sounding remake of a classic Just like you (during the time you made this video), I never saw that coming. What great times we live in. This truly is a great time for synthesizers!!!!
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 3 жыл бұрын
I need that take 5 to be under $1000 though
@kvmoore1
@kvmoore1 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie Haha, yeah. It IS quite expensive.
@v3lin3on
@v3lin3on 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. 🙏
@tendingtropic7778
@tendingtropic7778 3 жыл бұрын
love that first preset you play! is it a factory sound? or if not, could you share the settings with us?
@Darrin.Crawford
@Darrin.Crawford 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this. Awesome video. However, I am still undecided between a P6 and Rev 2. Very frustrating decision to make.
@francescomarzotto
@francescomarzotto 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! What was your choice, if I may ask?
@Darrin.Crawford
@Darrin.Crawford 3 жыл бұрын
@@francescomarzotto I ended up getting the P6...love it.
@NoweNagrania
@NoweNagrania 11 ай бұрын
PROPHET 6 is a masterpiece.
@SoundsAndGear
@SoundsAndGear 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro!
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@simonsandleitner2341
@simonsandleitner2341 3 жыл бұрын
My first Synth and probably still my favorite! :)
@CO5MA
@CO5MA 4 жыл бұрын
Great review 👍🏻
@gautrstafr
@gautrstafr 4 жыл бұрын
+1 for the conclusion. I've had and tested out many polysynths. Prophet 6 always wins hands down. The only other polysynth I have is a Blofeld and that's just because it's so radically different and it has 16 part multitimbrality.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a great combination, perfect duo of synths. It’s all about different textures right. I still think the Blofeld is one of the last great classic Waldorfs!
@KW-zs7zv
@KW-zs7zv 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful video. !
@HotelPools
@HotelPools 4 жыл бұрын
Wait did you post this before they announced the 5?
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Yes...... and it sucks 😞
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Though I’m still not interfering in the P5 rev4 I only buy gear when I need it or specifically to make videos. P6 didn’t stop being perfect for me
@HotelPools
@HotelPools 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie yeah I hear you. I have a P6 too, no complaints.
@cfs
@cfs 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie I've had an OB-6 desktop for 10 months. While these 2 synths are not modulation monsters, they are a LOT more capable than they first appear. Seriously! People who don't have them and/or don't dive deep don't realize that, while they don't have a lot of features, each feature they have has quite a lot of range (though I wish I could alt-click something to restrict the range sometimes rather than making tiny little movements). Also, the oscillators are comparatively dense, at least on the OB-6, such that using Osc 2 as a second LFO doesn't really seem like a huge restriction most of the time and still sounds lush (or not, depending on the goal). I'm considering a 2nd poly next year. I'm trying hard to NOT end up wanting a P6 desktop ($$$$$!!), but it's very hard, because once you hear them both, you want them both! I tell myself I'll be happy with the Minilogue XD - my original polysynth goal until I heard the OB6, but I'm just not so sure that'll be true, despite also wanting a different analog sound to the palette. I'd take a P5, but I would still buy a P6 instead. It's just a more modern machine/sound.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
@@cfs I hear you, to some when they see modulation matrix they get all moist, when I see modulation matrix I’m like “impractical overkill”.
@philmason9653
@philmason9653 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Guitarist888
@Guitarist888 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that used in the production for Michael Jackson’s thriller song?
@TheForeboding
@TheForeboding 4 жыл бұрын
It's the only synth that never leaves my studio.
@sixxdb
@sixxdb 4 жыл бұрын
I have always loved Oberheim synths. I had the choice to buy a P6 or an OB6, and went for the P6. This because I was looking for a vintage sound with modern stability, and the P6 sounds more like the P5 than the OB6 sounds like any OB synth. That’s not to say the OB6 is bad; it’s an amazing piece of kit, but I feel it’s a different beast altogether. The other reason is that the P6 is way more versatile. I feel like if you’re looking for a versatility synth, make it a modern one, whereas I’m happy to go vibe specific with vintage.
@buildingblocks8287
@buildingblocks8287 4 жыл бұрын
nice video... dave has the amazing skill to create synths, that you cant stop using them over and over and they never bore you... already have the p08, pro2 and an evolver... i thought maybe i should not buy the whole range of sequential :-))))) but ob6 or p6 is still hot.... i wonder if an UDO will give us a more "rolandish" competitor
@Nunchuckstraberry
@Nunchuckstraberry 3 жыл бұрын
that super-6 is gorgeous man.
@lfatx
@lfatx 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@_P_M_
@_P_M_ 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have one, but I'll never spend more than $1500 for a synth. It kills me because I really want the OB sound in my rig, but unless Uli B comes up with a price breakthrough, I'll have to live without it.
@morkmon
@morkmon 4 жыл бұрын
I have an 8 voice rev 2 desktop version, I absolutely love it but I kinda wish I had saved a little longer until I could afford the 6. It's very hard to justify spending that much on an instrument for me though.
@ortsac101
@ortsac101 4 жыл бұрын
Why the limit of $1500 ?
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
So many collections phone calls over this haha, honestly I shoulda just saved up, I was just a dumb kid. $1500 is a lot of money, so I get that limit. My limit for buying gear specifically to make videos on this channel is $500, so it’s just each persons toy price tolerance.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
I think my P6 was like $3200 after tax, jebus, like I can’t believe I spent that much on anything at the time.
@_P_M_
@_P_M_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@ortsac101 Partly because I have a rule that if I want to buy something I have to sell something to pay for it, which keeps me frugal and avoids G.A S. But also because electronics are cheap to manufacture and therefore should be reflected in the price. Much as I love Sequential and Moog, I can't afford expensive nameplates.
@panamax11
@panamax11 4 жыл бұрын
p6 can also make a mean bass
@GuitarsAndSynths
@GuitarsAndSynths 2 жыл бұрын
Prophet 10 would be my pick for a new Sequential synth but I splurged on the new OB-X8 from Oberheim as I liked that sound better.
@13amplifiers
@13amplifiers 3 жыл бұрын
The Prophet 6 is a very, very organic sounding synth to my ears, probably because of it's analogue circuitry. I can't see myself ever getting rid of it for this reason.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, it’s extremely organic sounding, kinda like it’s not trying too hard. It’s simple too, I absolutely love it!
@JAdeWii_
@JAdeWii_ 4 жыл бұрын
I like this more than the OB 👀 but ya know, both would be nice ☺️
@Deeplycloseted435
@Deeplycloseted435 4 жыл бұрын
Of course! Five years already? That seems twice as long as it feels. Guys, I remember discussing about there being almost no VCO synths on the market FOR YEARS, and we would argue about whether there would ever even be a VCO poly again. Maybe a couple of really small boutique single oscillator monos? Dave in interviews, several times had said, “Its too expensive today to make a poly VCO.” LIAR!!! When this was announced, people pretty much lost their shit. I ultimately went the AS-1, OB6, and Rev2 route. Prolly upgrading the AS-1 to a Pro3 soon. This thing sounds amazing though, and now we have several VCO poly on the market. Shit, it was a big deal when the VCO Minibrute came out. I’ll probably get one of these at some point. Its not just the sound, but this next gen of DSI/Seq synths really stepped up the UI experience. The OB6 and especially the Rev2 for being so deep/complex, is incredibly easy and enjoyable to program. I know, I’m an LFO whore as well. I do agree that one LFO is adequate on a poly most of the time. If I’m using more than one its usually tiny amounts of modulation. If I’m making FX, I need lots of LFOs so just use another synth, like the Rev2 or Blofeld. Another key for DSI/Seq......is Dave’s commitment not only to making great sounding and easy to use synthesizers, but also to embracing the technology afforded to us these days. I mean, he did invent MIDI, so of course the ease of interaction with a DAW, automating those patches that would require me to have three pairs of hands, saving and organizing patches in a digital library, is all really easy on DSI/Seq products. For a hybrid guy like me, this is really important.....and something that doesn’t always just work with other manufacturers. No it doesn’t sound just like a P5, but its not that far away. Yes, the Rev2 is really damn close. Besides synth nerds like us, nobody can even tell the difference between a VCO/VCF setup and software.
@jasperlawson6315
@jasperlawson6315 3 ай бұрын
I just traded 2 synths two of my nicest pedals and a drum machine for a prophet 6.... My initial reaction. The overall tone is so good. Warm and lush. Best overall tone of any synth ive played .. the Moog sub 25 is close, but monophonic. So different league. However. I really miss the everything can modulate flexibility of the DSI era gear. .... The envelope is not as responsive as I'd like And where's my Curtis filter?... I'm pretty disappointed in the filter. I'm more of a knob turner than a keyboardist... I think I actually prefer the MophoX4 or Tetra... The interface on the 6 should be amazing. But the knobs are just not that playable.. even the LFO has pretty limited range... I wish someone wanted to trade their rev-2 instead. That said it does sound amazing. The pan control is a nice touch... Maybe it will grow on me.
@vintageMIDI
@vintageMIDI 4 жыл бұрын
Great overview for the 5th birthday of the Prophet-6. Wonder how sales of the P6 will be affected by the P5 rev4. I want both.
@Nunchuckstraberry
@Nunchuckstraberry 3 жыл бұрын
the way you feel about the prophet 6 is the way I feel about the 106. I use it everyday and the sound is priceless along with the stripped back functionality. Im also looking for a juno6/60. Either of those with the 106 I feel like its a match made in heaven.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I owed a 106 for a while and when I go back and listen to records I used it on it’s just got “THAT” sound.
@Nunchuckstraberry
@Nunchuckstraberry 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie haha for sure. I’m never ever getting rid of it. Are you tempted in the prophet 5 rev 4?
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nunchuckstraberry naaaaah, like, original Prophet or nothing. Go big or go home 😂 106 would probably be the old vintage synth I’d buy again. Hold onto to that one, I regret selling mine that’s for sure…😭
@f.engels6116
@f.engels6116 4 жыл бұрын
“Never so Prophet 5 again” abs here we are with P5 rev 4 announced. That did not age well 😅. I might think about getting a P6 instead so I really appreciate your insights. 😊
@oholm09
@oholm09 4 жыл бұрын
They reissue prophet 5 reborn
@studiosaveur7917
@studiosaveur7917 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful machine. In a studio it's just so simple to layer tracks and tweak sounds super fast and it sounds so right, I'm delighted to often use no EQ to mix it in.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, it just fits in tracks! I talked to Dave casually and brought up how I really wanted an OB6, he was basically like “The OB knocks your socks off, the P6 just fits.” I agreed 100%
@studiosaveur7917
@studiosaveur7917 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie Wow ahaha. When the OB6 got out raved about how nicer it sounded compared the P6. Maybe time will tell the opposite. Real glad to have that one even though the OB6 would have been fine. At the end, if it works good, it's fine.
@natura808
@natura808 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@samjones714
@samjones714 4 жыл бұрын
Hydrasynth doesn't have 5 times the LFOs of the P6 but actually 41 times ;)
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, well in that case...if I start saying positive things they’ll offer to send me a free Hydrasynth.🤔 Nah, I’ll keep same old weak LFO Prophet 6 I bough years ago. Hehe
@samjones714
@samjones714 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoirEtBlancVie I do understand that, I don´t own a P6 but a P08 and P12 (which has 48 LFO´s :)) and I´d only swap them for for a P6 or more likely for a P5 rev4
@grantleum1530
@grantleum1530 4 жыл бұрын
You said "when I actually make music, I use the same 4 pieces and a DAW". I'm assuming 2 of those 4 are the Sub 37 and the P6, what about the rest? :P
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
Korg SV-1 & DSI Tempest. All which bought I prior to or in 2015.
@MusicZtorm
@MusicZtorm 4 жыл бұрын
Noir Et Blanc Vie thanks for this video :) i’d like the same kind of video for the SV1 ( I own a SV1 two ) + an overall video on why you’ve chosen your synths / setup would be cool too ! 😊
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 4 жыл бұрын
I still don’t know how to properly review the SV1. I don’t want to put something out that’s not well done.
@MusicZtorm
@MusicZtorm 4 жыл бұрын
Noir Et Blanc Vie 👍
@E-MOTION-MUSIC
@E-MOTION-MUSIC 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of comments about the synth being too expensive. It’s called sacrifice and if your not willing to sacrifice why even complain about something you don’t really want.
@xiaoxia5
@xiaoxia5 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, i don't understand commenting on videos like this just to complain about the price. i watch videos that have mulit-million dollar cars driving around, but i don't complain that i can't afford them.
@martinskanal
@martinskanal 2 жыл бұрын
That track on 00:20. Perfection.
@S1ph3r
@S1ph3r 4 жыл бұрын
what's the difference of this prohet-6 and the new rev of the prophet-5 with all 4 different REV models in it?
@owenkitto27
@owenkitto27 3 жыл бұрын
I got the ob6 but yesterday I paid for the 6 I think it’s a must
@Galova
@Galova 3 жыл бұрын
I like your synth man. I generally like analog synth, but I like the one you show. I've never seen prophet 6 but I like sound of it and also its pure analog interface with those red lights and digits etc. Unfortunately I have no way to get such a synth so I'm just watching
@chickittypok
@chickittypok 4 жыл бұрын
03:21 playing sounds out of phase
@KJR4103
@KJR4103 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa that’s weird
@_alexxon
@_alexxon 2 жыл бұрын
And Dave actually did it again😂The 4th generation prophet 5 is here again hahaha
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 2 жыл бұрын
Dave made me eat my words 😂
@reybarr8670
@reybarr8670 4 жыл бұрын
yes!
@stuffnuns
@stuffnuns 3 жыл бұрын
“Gear-chasing”, a great term for it. I say, when you get gear, get good gear. But, if you think that piece of gear you don’t own is gonna do the magic for ya? Maybe, but have you really learned what the gear you have does? And new gear doesn’t stand in for practice. But, hey, sometimes, a new toy can help inspiration. my rc-505 has been a wonderful writing aide. Could I have done it without that box? Maybe. . . but it was so much easier, and more fun, doing it with a 5 track looper instead of sitting at my desk, on the DAW.
@NoirEtBlancVie
@NoirEtBlancVie 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I learned this the hard way 6 years ago. RIP my credit score over this 😂
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