Great Synth Mysteries Ep. 6: There will NEVER be another Access Virus

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This is a love story about a synthesizer unlike many others, in my opinion a synth that came out so long ago still eclipses many releases of today. Great Synth Mystery, mmm, maybe... but I wanted to make a compelling piece about such a wonderful instrument. As a musician and not a reviewer or journalist I think this really speaks to how ahead of it's time the Access Virus Ti was.
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[@RedMeansRecording]

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[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Hahaahahah

[@docmcfly3933]

Nah, the virus lives on in emulations like Viper, Osirus, and OsTirus. Nothing does Trance and Hard Dance leads quite like a Virus. It's gonna be around for a long time.

[@YotamPiano]

Glad you are back brother, the KZbin community has missed you !

[@JewettMusic]

Right? I feel spoiled with all the new videos.

[@stephencoakley]

Something to consider about digital audio: The types of connections seem to limit the timelessness of the hardware. While plain old analog audio has entrenched itself as something that will never be truly obsolete, USB audio, software controllers, etc will always be subject to issues over time if not kept up-to-date. By avoiding that stuff and making a synth that is more of an "isolated island" that operates entirely within itself, it is more likely that the synth can continue to be used in exactly the same way it was originally designed decades from now.

[@VIRALBEATS360]

Great video! UVI has a little bit of Virus in their Synth Anthology, as well. It is definitely limited, but sounds amazing. I still want to do an all Virus album. There is something about that sound...

[@robertkrohn9385]

Why were they still producing them but not updating the software?

[@tonverfall_studio]

My desktop TI2 blows my mind every time I sit down for a sound design session. I've learned to live without the total integration and just use it as a hardware synth, which works fine.

[@russcontact]

I keep looking for the best edm and electronica synth and kinda reached the same conclusion. A Virus w/o integration still takes anything else for a small all in one solution. Still isn’t cheap but it’s all Id need

[@Microtonal_Cats]

Access Virus: the only keyboard used by the keyboard player in loud guitar bands that you forgot had a keyboard player.

[@ileutur6863]

Tool immediately comes to mind. Their moog-like virus textures are amazing

[@cyrillusventus1]

so true this virus can do guitar so crazy ahahahah

[@Meic909]

I got Virus TI2 and oh boy the keybed feels sooo good, such a great action and feel. Love it!

[@todbot]

After wanting a Virus for 20 years, I finally got a used one last month. It is very cool and such a beast. Perhaps this is why modern synths are seemingly less capable: it's a little intimidating to have so much available in one box.

[@PascalM-ld9xn]

Multi-timbral synth capable is amazing 👍

[@skinlayers]

I have a dream... of designing a Virus inspired successor based on open RISC-V chips, so it's open all the way down to the silicon. That way, in theory, we would never run into the issue with the synth's processor being discontinued. You could always take the design to another fab. I was thinking of learning embedded C++ and seeing if I could leverage Mutable Instruments' open source code as a starting point. If only I didn't need a day job...

[@toseltreps1101]

Or use an FPGA.

[@zoned7609]

If you do this, let me design patches for it.

[@christopherjansen5135]

I’m so fortunate to actually have the 61 Access Virus Ti2. So happy to see you cover this synth. It’s hard to comprehend how resourceful and great-sounding this synth is.

[@mrcassette]

I've been using mine for so long now and it's more than worth it's weight in gold/enjoyment/creativity... feel like I should get another and keep it for future.

[@passivehouseaustralia4406]

Got one as well fits nicely with my rev2 16 v😅 big big sound

[@MrReeTart]

I'm one of the lucky owners of the 61key access virus TI2 Special edition whiteout colorway. They only made 150 of them ever!!!

[@sonicperformance]

I got one also, and it’s white #35 😊

[@Rhythmicons]

In 2005 when I was drooling over the Voyager, there were only two other synths in the catalogs in that price range: The Andromeda A6 and the Acess Virus. Those were the days before the analog explosion.

[@MULTIMAN-MUSIC]

Remember drooling on those exact synths too 😊

[@andivax]

Welcome back! As official TI 2 sound designer, I would say "We don't need another Virus".

[@cyrillusventus1]

maybe with usb 2/3 and not 1.1 :///

[@SchweinchenHorst]

@@cyrillusventus1 : dont need usb 3 because sending 44.1 khz / 16 bit usb 1 is enough.

[@charonme]

ever since I started learning about HW synths it has always fascinated me how is it possible almost all modern synths have such poor polyphony and multitimbrality and can't compete with the old TI, especially when there are such powerful processors nowadays!

[@SchweinchenHorst]

The Virus has such a warm natural sound i never hear in all VSTs i got. And i got em all: Diva, Ni Massive, Omnisphere etc. it always sounds big and cut through the mix and sound so unique. I love em

[@christianwn]

Tried Dune 3 vst synth? 🙂

[@SchweinchenHorst]

@@christianwn : believe me! I have tons of VST Synths. None of them sounds like the virus. These warm, break through sound. The „professional“ sounding. Just Mariana still not sound like the virus.

[@jensschettler1732]

Spire Sounds Close enough

[@SchweinchenHorst]

@@jensschettler1732 😂😂😂😂

[@wesleinothingface]

Teste esses, OSTIRUS, OSIRUS, VAVRA e XENIA

[@zitosonic]

"There will NEVER be another Access Virus" Behringer, "hold my beer !"

[@resofactor]

The Birus! lol lol lol

[@MULTIMAN-MUSIC]

Well the statement still remains since Behr will just clone their design… they are still not going to release anything better.

[@gainofdysfunction4135]

@@MULTIMAN-MUSIC So what, it's good enough as it is. I hate what they did to the 909. Shoulda stuck to the original.

[@MULTIMAN-MUSIC]

@@gainofdysfunction4135 What is “enough as it is”, the Virus? Oh absolutely I love the Virus and use mine all the time…

[@ScottsSynthStuff]

The Montage has two sets of stereo outputs, not one - you literally show them at 5:30 as you pan past the jacks. It also has 32 channels of USB audio out (you can send a stereo pair from each of the 16 parts, each of which can be a separate sound made up of hundreds of elements, with unique effects). And if you like, it has 6 channels of USB in, so you can run other sounds through its effects. The Hydrasynth again has two sets of stereo outs, which (again) you literally show at 5:37 as you pan past them, just as you say it has a "pair of stereo in and outs". Actually the Hydrasynth has no audio input, but you can achieve kind of the same thing using its modulation inputs, which will read into the audio range. I agree with you about Osirus - it does sound amazing. The user interface leaves a bit to be desired, and the non-standard method which in which it integrates as a plugin to your DAW is somewhat limiting however.

[@gautrstafr]

I think probably the best thing in production today is the Yamaha Montag M series ... BUT it seems you got the data for the Montage all wrong! It's basically over 1,000 part multitibral because the new generation can have 128 "elements" within each of the main 8 parts (basically turning each part into a full blown Motif). Plus VA (AN-X) and FM-X engines. It also has 400 note polyphony in total, though it's divided up in a weird way, because of the chips used. It's at least 128 for the AWM enine (plus 128 for non-preset samples), 128 for FM-X and 16 for AN-X (so similar to the Quantum just in that engine) Also, the new ESP plugin has come where you can directly edit parts, basically similar to the TI aspect of the Virus. On the MIDI side it also has USB input so you can integrate other controllers through itself. Plus it has 4 outputs, 2 inputs and an audio interface, 6-in/32-out so you have a lot of flexibility there. It's not just stereo out. Though I do agree it's completely different, not necessarily overall better but if you're a player in a live Band, the Montage M is just miles ahead of the TI. If you're a synthesist in your studio, then they're just different.

[@TokyoScarab]

I had a TI Snow back in the day and used it in some bands I was in. The thing was such an absolute monster for how little space it took up! I have a Waldorf Iridium and it has filled that void for me. It's so intuitive and visually pleasing and while it does lack polyphony and some of the shaping, it feels like you can create anything you want on it if you're clever about what you do.

[@browe]

Same here--TI Snow user who also now has Iridium. Like you said, it featured so much juice in a small package, but it had it's problems when playing live. It unexpectedly (yet rarely) glitched while mono/unison playing... I never could sort that out to feel confident enough with it on stage.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@browe only downside on Waldorf compare to the Virus is lack of the multi-timbral capacity- virus is 16 part multi-timbral and Waldorf only duo-timbral. So Waldorf gimped their expensive hardware with newer technology than Virus. I love being to run 6 drum patches, 4 synth patches and a bass line on one piece of hardware. Waldorf cannot do that!

[@browe]

​@@GuitarsAndSynths Correct on all counts. I never used multitimbral parts to their full extent on my TI Snow, so it's not a limitation for me personally on my Iridium.

[@leftovernoise]

Gonna be real, didnt even onow they were still producing these synths.

[@julian-multiman]

It was just discontinued… sadly

[@ultimateXsounds]

Access was almost 20 years ahead of the competition. It's amazing what they managed to achieve. This equipment still surprises me even though I have spent thousands of hours programming it.

[@dizx1982]

Love your sounds mate! used them in my productions!

[@ultimateXsounds]

@@dizx1982 Hey !! Thank you mate ! I'm please to hear it ! Tweaking some new for Ti atm.

[@mothretramusic]

@@ultimateXsounds Gotta ride this wave, right?

[@ultimateXsounds]

@@mothretramusic On Ti ? always

[@warpigs330]

I think what all these synthesizer manufacturers have realized is that the long feature list isn't actually useful if the interface to access all those features isn't great. And even if the interface is great, with all those features you end up overwhelmed with choice paralysis. I have had a Hydrasynth for like 6 months and I think I have used the 4th and 5th envelope like once. There are just very very few people who actually need and use the phonebook sized featurelist of something like the virus. But we are techno-fetishists who think that a longer featurelist will make us happy. Or that we think that missing features are what is holding us back creatively.

[@CaidicusProductions]

Your playing and patches at the end were just excellent sounding, especially the very last one. Man... I can't seem to make anything but ugly and brash sounds with my Virus. :P

[@cyrillusventus1]

Amazing i love my virus ti2 NEVER i ll sell it .... but a nos sens to put usb 1.1 on it when usb 2 was there also 3.

[@NullStaticVoid]

Lets be real. All those older synths had a thousand features because at the root of it they did not sound very good. The market has moved away from workstations that claim to do everything in favor of synths that do one thing well and have knobs per function. Because honestly the product that does all of these things that a giant keyboard does is a laptop with a MIDI controller.

[@Alleroc]

The lack of multi-outs is why I ultimately got rid of my waldorf iridium. It's an amazing synth, don't get me wrong, but I don't want to have to do 16 part mixing internally when I'd rather do it on my actual hardware mixer. I ended up sticking an 18i20 onto my MPC key61, while not as robust or capable, it gets the job done.

[@SvintMvrcus]

Just curious why would you need so many outs ? I’ve been using mine just designing pads and stuff I really enjoy it but what are the benefits of having all those outputs separately?

[@audiolego]

I'm grateful that I have the Darkstar. Oh I use it for my new track. Every track I do there's a Virus sound in there.

[@AvantHarde]

Legendary... I might buy a Snow once again but in the meantime (and beyond) there is OsTIrus :)

[@ingolf7411]

Had an Access Virus A, then a KB and finally a Darkstar (which I still have). The Darkstar is an excellent instrument and with the AuraPlugin Editor the Mac-connection is no problem. So many features, a wonderful design and solid built quality. But most important ... the sound. So wonderful and this synth is fun to program. A classic but with so many features other modern synths hardly offer. Thank you for keeping the Access Virus "alive" 👍.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Yup I use it and the ipad touch for virus.

[@KattKirsch]

This synth is just so beautiful. Using the DSP vst has opened my eyes and helped me to remember just how much I can love using a synthesizer.

[@craZivn]

Being compatible with polyphonic aftertouch isn't good enough. What makes the Hydrasynth one of the best digital hardware pieces ever made is it's keybed, as much as it's sound engine. The best-sounding plugin in the world is useless without an expressive interface.

[@NSW-ye3xw]

I have a Ti2 desktop. Gorgeous synth, sounds fantastic and unlimited options for me. I would never sell it!

[@no_guarantees]

How much? Lololololol

[@CapriciousBlackBox]

Love my Virus. Long live the Virus.

[@jon_gee]

Awesome video. I really enjoy your calm voice. Beautifully put together, and an excellent homage to an amazing instrument. I owned a TI keyboard for many years, and wrote many songs with it. What a tank. A total dream synth. I gigged with it and it put up with a lot.

[@meilstone]

Most of the factory presets are already excellent, their names feature the initials of their creators (mostly internationally acclaimed, professional sound designers).

[@Andrew-K]

Damn, that teaser at the end. A TI3 would probably reign for the next two decades.

[@synthsamuraiproductions]

Awesome video brother amazing work. Enjoyed this.

[@mdeerocks6792]

Christoph Kemper is a genius. He revolutionized synths and guitar amplification in last decade. Kemper amplifier is still one of the best (if not the best) amp modellers on the market and all other brands are playing catch up with more than decade old hardware.

[@yvesbajulaz]

Its mindboggling how poly timbrality went backward…

[@nailbiter82]

I miss my C, but Osiris sounds very very close to it. I'd buy a TI3 in a second!

[@synthanatomy]

Awesome video :) Just a correction: the new Yamaha Montage has digital I/O over USB, allowing you to send up to 16 channels to your DAW :) And they have the plugin that makes a kinda total recall style possible as it reproduce the entire synth engine in your DAW with patch recall etc.

[@julko28]

I don't know how many of you have heard about Adam Szabo Viper Vst which is kind of modeled after Virus TI. It has all of those oscliators (formant, grain, wavetable, multisaw and classic). It can also run all of the Access Virus sounds via mid.format. I also made couple of soundbanks (Trance, Synthwave and Cinematic) in this vst and i must say it is really really close to the real Access Virus except of real knobs of course (it has 128 polyphony).

[@Behnan]

unfortunately just for win. Would love to try my old virus soundsets on it

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

I mentioned it as well… looks neat.

[@benjiwill]

I recently found Viper, great VST! Able to run my old favourite patches again is so good! Highly recommend to anyone wanting those sounds! :D

[@SchweinchenHorst]

I‘ve got OsTIrus yesterday and man this sounds similar! I‘ve try a direct comparison in the next weeks

[@mrdavies7894]

Thanks for the heads-up on the DSP56300 emulation project! I was working on those things back in college! 😅 Nice to have a new playground to stomp around in….

[@ToyKeeper]

There will never be another Access Virus... but I feel like there doesn't need to be. It was great, but it's just not really needed any more. It was designed for a particular workflow which isn't used much these days, with a 16-track hardware midi sequencer driving a 16-track synthesizer. But then DAWs got popular, so Access added Total Integration to make the Virus stay relevant longer. This helped because computers didn't have the power to synthesize so many tracks at once. But when computers got more powerful, the Virus largely faded away because it was no longer necessary, and the hardware was inconvenient and limiting compared to VSTs. Hardware-based workflows stuck around, but they largely shifted toward other goals -- expressive hands-on performance controls, enhanced sound design interfaces, analog nostalgia, portability, and exotic feature sets... which are all things other synths do better. I used to want a Virus. Like, really really bad. But now, I don't even know what I'd do with one. It's not relevant to my needs any more.

[@kidthorazine]

Pretty much this. IIRC the Virus Ti2 is 100% digital anyway, so making a hardware version seems kind of pointless when you could just make a VSTi. That was a much bigger ask back in the 2000s since computers where a lot slower so being able to offload a lot of the DSP to an external box made a lot more sense, nowadays it's just expensive and redundant leave the hardware for stuff that has real analog components.

[@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135]

I say get the vst of VCV Rack tbh no cap

[@ToyKeeper]

​@@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 There are a lot of great VSTs for almost any imaginable sound or technique. VCV is definitely on that list.

[@NiamorH]

Well there are still digital synths being made today.

[@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135]

fr @@ToyKeeper

[@CRayBeats]

I use Viper by Adam Szabo. It's windows only but modeled %100..

[@synthanatomy]

I'm waiting for the DSP56300 emulator version :)

[@kikkirow]

I have an access virus classic. Definitely love that sound. Hopefully they can come back some day

[@ianedmonds9191]

That last bit sounded like the intro to Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior album. You nailed it.

[@RayTheProducer]

The cult of Virus is strong, and there may well never be another. But...there are quite a few lovely software alternatives, if not outright replacements. Spire, Hive, Sylenth, Lush2, Avenger, Dune, the new GForce Oddity and Minimonsta, most of the Tone 2 stuff, and Viper (a direct 'inspiration') can all get you close, IF you know what you're doing. While I've always wanted one, I think I'll get a fancy controller instead. With incredible advances in digital audio technology, interfaces and virtual analogue oscillator and filter modeling the Virus is no longer essential, but will forever remain desirable. Great video!

[@ranmadog72000]

There ARE also Osirus (a free virus b/c emulation) and OsTIrus (a free virus ti emulation) (both can be found in the DSP 56300 emulation site! They are free 1:1 access virus emulations!!!

[@DomSigalas]

I am still gutted I went through three of those (brand new)and they all had major issues so was forced to return them. Such an awesome instrument!❤

[@willswitchcraft]

agreed..................still awesome........on mine every day..............if you haven't seen them, I've done quite a few Virus videos (overviews, tutorials, etc.)

[@josephramone5805]

I have TWO of these: 61 keys and desktop. Without any doubt, when all features are considered, the TI and TI2 are the most complete hardware synths in the history of synthesizers. It's not hyperbole. No other polyphonic synthesizer has attempted to even come close to the 16 part multi-timbrality that the TI offers. Never mind the rest of the features, and possibilities, which are boundless.

[@Slope114]

After all that build up the demo was too short! But I enjoyed the little bit you gave us. Well done!

[@chrisjohnson8262]

Aura for the virus plug-in is perfect. Maybe better than the Ti proprietary software.

[@zmix]

This is an ongoing problem throughout, so many useful tools rendered obsolete prematurely (I know, I know 20 years, etc, etc). I really admire the open source community for the efforts they make. Excellent video.

[@djanthonythomas]

The concord of synthesizers!

[@bLiNdEDM]

Thanks for making this video! I’ve been using the Virus since the Virus power core in 2005! I later got a virus snow which I lost in a house fire and finally ended up with a TI2 about 6 years ago. Sad to see it discontinued but happy I still have access to it. The sound of it is softer than most synths but it can still cut thru a mix like a hot knife in butter

[@joemaffiamusic]

One of the very few synths I regret selling...

[@passivehouseaustralia4406]

And Arturias new wonder synth has 8 voices for pigments.... ha ha ha ha ... Yes I have a ti2 61 Keyboard.

[@elektrokatzer]

I had the honor to present the first Virus (A) on the Musikmesse in Frankfurt for Access Music ... miss the fat sounding rack-mount ...

[@OKvalosound]

I visited MM Frankfurt every year in the 90ies and was excited hearing the Virus the first time back than. Was it you handing the demo device to the audience and asking "Want to turn the filter knob?/Will'ste mal am Filter drehen?"

[@elektrokatzer]

Cool! Sorry, I don't rememer ... I made and performed own demo-tracks in the demo-booth ... I used triggered Gregorian Choirs and made different drum sounds with (I think) 2 Virus A's and designed the mouse-pad-giveaways and first website ...@@OKvalosound

[@SynthAddict]

nice love letter to the Virus 🙂 I still love and use my Access Virus TI rack I bought in 2008 - a shame they stopped production I also use a lot of the digital stuff you mentioned including the Fusion, Neuron, and others, and they all offered something cool and different - I even made my own sound models with the Hartmann Neuron Model Maker software new features and ideas in synthesis are always promising, but the lack of polyphony and usable multitimbrality these days is sad, but Kemper figured it out long ago - that is why I can make elaborate hardware jams with just an Arturia Keystep Pro and my VIrus TI rack - it can handle anything I throw at it and it sounds great hopefully a Virus TI 3 or something similar will be on the distant horizon... Kemper makes great stuff

[@MidlifeSynthesist]

Brooo! You are a BEAST! What an amazing video dude, please start posting again, I could watch all day🔥🔥 RIP Access Virus❤️

[@gaston7428]

Oh I never forget when I purchased the Virus TI in 2005. I'm a dance music producer since 2003, and when I discovered in the beginning that a LOT of dance music was created with the Virus synths (especially the B / C in that time) I wanted it so badly. Then in 2005 the TI came and I went to the shop (Yes kids, in that time you actually had physical shops where u needed to go to). And there it was, beautiful Virus TI. Red and White LED's beautifully flashing. I think I played it four at least an hour. I purchased it right away. Since then, I used it in almost every production. It's so inspiring. I sold all my hardware synths, since I use mostly softsynths nowadays. The sound of sofsynths is great. But my Virus TI, it will never, ever go away. The sound is unmatched. I understand why Kemper never released a new version. Why should he? I think he realised he created the ultimate synth, how can you improve this? I only hoped he released a softsynth version of this, since computers nowadays have more then enough power. But others released the DSP emulation of the software, which I also use now and it sounds as great as the Virus TI itself. So, however I use the software emulation out of convenience, my Virus TI hardware will never be sold when I'm alive :).

[@apoplexiamusic]

As someone who uses both synths and guitar modelers, i think the entire music industry owes a lot to Christoph Kemper. I just hope he releases a new Virus synth… his company must be developing something because the Kemper looks like it’s mostly been the same tech since it launched… unless his company no longer had any R&D going on?

[@eliaszerano3510]

Emulation is successful BUT the performance is very, very poor especially with high latencies

[@lineriderrulz]

I bought a Ti2 Desktop in 2017 or so, sometimes wished I got a Darkstar or Polar but the discontinuation of the whole line made me realise I'm lucky to have a Ti2 at all. It's not easy to afford for everyone and I can't imagine how much it would hurt to save for months or years only for it to be discontinued before you can buy new.

[@RenigadeCineTrax]

Got mine in 2018 for $1500. Ti2 desktop.

[@TejrnarG]

Oh, I did not know until watching your video that the Virus TI is discontinued. I bought it right when it came out, but due to my job I could not play it for the last 8 years or so. Are old firmware and plugin software updates still downloadable somewhere?

[@ianedmonds9191]

The way I see it the Access Virus 2TI is like a classic car. There aren't gonna be any others made and people want them. It's an appreciating asset. They are pretty unique as Super powered Digital analogue synths. Analogue synths become more and more unaffordable as time goes on. Right now the best Digital Analogue is the Access Virus. But it's so much more than that. It's a super powered synth with a massive fx unit built in. Not mention the ability to integrate with DAWs. (Although that might atrophy over time if Access don't support it.) Right now it seems like a great investment. 2K for TI2 polar 37 key unit seems like a bargain. Bound to cost over 10K within 10 years I think. I'm holding on to my Snow for now. Luv and Peace.

[@mb102]

They need to reish fusion ion miniak!!!!slight tweaks just made more stable plus better resolution knobs.....

[@alecjahn]

This was a dream synth of mine for a long long time. Never picked one up, wasn't sure if it would fit in with my current stuff and style. Maybe eventually I'll grab one.

[@bux77]

Great piece, glad to see you releasing this high quality content. Keep it up!

[@thegameisclear]

Its faster and more profitable to make small synths with retro features than large synths with modern features.

[@ArminDressler]

The TI2 Keyboard was also the cheapest Option to get the fantastic Fatar TP/8S keybed. Since macOS total integration does not work any more, I use my virus only as a controller. best keybed and a bunch of high quality knobs to assign to soft synths.

[@nagchumpalot]

The only problem is the Virus are plagued with battery failures and software bugs that will NEVER be fixed.. horrible OS my Indigo LCD screen failed battery failed and would not start up properly after replacement.. plus my TI was buggy as hell audio over USB was very glitchy glad to be rid of them both now and The Waldorf iridium replaced easily the sound and far better interface. The whole Virus community called for a new virus for so many years! and the makers never listened and missed the boat big time..

[@vjreimedia]

Imagine, I just got a Ti2 Whitedout for $2500 and this video comes out. A friend of mine told me back in 2012, 12 years ago!: Why would they need to upgrade the Ti2 if is already perfect? You can not go anywhere else, that is it!

[@buttermilkbiscuit1021]

I don’t buy the official story from Kemper. I was on the waiting list for the original TI in 2005. Still have. So ive been here since the inception until the end. Plotec owns the plugin? Who owns everything else?

[@luisbarrera5740]

So. That video of him saying maybe theyll do keyboards again was him being facetious right? Please don't get my hopes up.

[@peterlof]

Back when I was looking for a dedicated synthesizer the TI and the NL3 were the two main contenders on my list. Since I (still) play only dawless, I went for the NL3 and I still love that thing to death. My best guess is that nowadays there is more than enough power to do everything software based, that (for most manufacturers) there is no incentive to create a hardware based synthesizer when it is a) super expensive to produce and distribute and b) will always fall behind software capabilities. Most flagship workstations now come with pre-installed emulators for the legendary synths of the past, the time of great synths is just over. The one "new" synth I'd consider today is an OB-6 probably.

[@eliaszerano3510]

The Virus is pretty nice but if you compare the specs and possibilities to VPS Avenger for example it is quite underwhelming these days

[@PascalM-ld9xn]

Search : The Usual Suspects VST but heavy on CPU 😉

[@elektronzer3809]

I have both the virus TI and Quantum. Virus does not have "unlimited" modulation. The mod matrix of the Quantum smokes it. Edit where are you getting quantum is 8 part multi timbral? It is Bi Timbral.

[@meilstone]

When I run a Korg Radias timbre through the filter and FX sections of the Virus TI2, that alone could keep me awake for 72 hours straight. 🙂

[@thisistherealkit]

Might be an unpopular opinion but Waldorf Quantum (or Iridium) is on par or maybe is even ahead of TI2 but for sure at the time it came out, no softwares were even as versatile as this piece of hardware. RIP, hope Access will come back to synth industry again

[@eliaszerano3510]

What can the Virus TI do what for example Roland V-Synth can't do ?

[@resetreboot]

To the question about "Why there's no way better digital synths nowadays" I believe the answer is that the synth community has decided altogether that digital is bad and you need monophonic analogue synths because they are "warm" and sound better because they are imperfect. So yeah, the market has shrunk considerably for that purism about analog.

[@m9cao]

the Virus was winner and dominator of all synth in early 00s, when hardware synth limited by effects and voices, and soft synth just in developing, pc power still weak can't handle too much instances, but after 10s, Virus becomes weak, people create more project in pc with soft synth, more powerful Japanese keyboard synth, and now Virus also worth to keep in your list for it voices, also you can buy Waldorf Kyra for similar use

[@fabiovsroque]

Some people say It is Impossible to make the Vírus sound bad, no matter how you program it.

[@thystleuk]

RIP the dream of owning a Virus. Never had the money for one, always wanted one but never managed to get there. Now the prices are gonna spiral faster than crypto…

[@Elektragen]

The Ti is great for its effects processor but the Virus A has the fatest sound then the Virus B or classic. I've owned all A,B,C and Ti and the B is the only one I kept.

[@Goat.Herder]

Been waiting for Behringer to rip this off... That would genuinely be good imo

[@mr-iz8cx]

Kemper modellers have lost a lot of support with new tech so much easier to develop and package. Maybe another synth is on the way

[@dmomcilovic9185]

I was lucky enough to buy the last new Ti2 in Stock in Europe

[@johnbeckett8367]

There WILL be a new virus synth . ( Only a new TI version ) The inventor said so in an interview a few months ago

[@oraz.]

I wonder if current synths are mostly using arm cortex

[@andrewmarfoli3957]

all I did was waste time flipping through bad sounds on this

[@iamgeorgesears]

I would disagree on that the sound is subjetive. I have never heard better unison or filters in any other synth. So far no other digital or hardware synth has better more firm sounding unison and filters to this day. I am never letting go of my Snow.

[@PascalM-ld9xn]

We want a new Virus and a new Andromeda please 😂

[@BenjaminCristina]

I used to own a Virus Indigo about a decade ago, never used it and eventually sold it. Regretting it now.

[@kannon3979]

One of the best synthesizers ever!

[@neurogenesisofficial]

im looking to collaborate with other musicians

[@Robbinsffxi]

If they would ever make a new virus, they would have to re-invent it. New architecture, new DSP engine., new effects, better audio quality, better computer integration. With the powerfull FPGA's and microcontrollers available these days, They could make it with 16 parts and no compromises. No voice drops stuff like that. But I like the virus formfactor it's clever and scalable. This new virus would be a centerpiece for me.

[@BrentVirgin]

I own a TI2, but I also own a Novation Summit that uses FPGA chip. If a Virus TI3 could be built upon a FPGA architecture, it would be astounding!! Literally fantasizing about it...

[@jameslast3192]

I have a virus Ti2 polar darkstar that I got for a steal second hand over ten years ago. I’m a massive analog fan but the virus is mind blowing!