Stock vs CS Racing Exhaust Panigale V4S

Stock exhaust vs CS Racing slip on for a 2020 Ducati Panigale V4s. Sound is in high quality stereo-so crank the volume up!
I decided to take a risk and buy this exhaust from a relatively small company...but I'm glad I did. The build quality is great, and the shrouds it comes with make it look very integrated with the stock bodywork, which is what I was after. I will say the bike DEFINITELY needs to be dyno tuned, because it lost a significant amount of power in the midrange (makes sense since a slipon is also a cat delete and servo elimination on this bike). Keep an eye out for that video-I already have an appointment!
Installation of the CS Racing slipon was super easy, but getting the stock muffler off was a huge pain. I have 2 complaints with this exhaust-one, it's WAY loud...way louder than any other pipe I've heard in person (Akrapovic, Arrow, Termignoni, SC Project). It does come with removable baffles, but putting them in didn't make it much quieter so I left them out-I'll just ride with earplugs from now on.
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[@exothermal.sprocket]

Well now, this simple exhaust system puts Akrapovic and Termignoni out of business in the sound department. WOW

[@jensensphotography4570]

bro when you were giving it thru the hills it sounded amazing

[@RX7FDfreak]

2024 V4 has one with a woolich tune. Runs great!

[@FORDGT86]

Sounds so good ❤

[@THEASPASPEUR]

Wow ! Thank you

[@vichetdragoncars3186]

Wow I love its sound

[@PanigaleV4S]

I got a 2023 Panigale V4s. I’m thinking about this exhaust

[@Praetorian27]

Now that you've had it for awhile, what is your long term opinion? Is it too loud or do you love it?

[@jetstream01]

It's definitely too loud haha but I love it. I don't ride around neighborhoods or through town normally so it's not a problem. Bike doesn't run good with it though and I got the Brentuning flash, worked with them to improve it, and it still didn't run right. Definitely needs a dyno tune.

[@Praetorian27]

@@jetstream01 what was the final outcome? Does it run properly now? Brentuning knows the flash now?

[@jetstream01]

@@Praetorian27 I would say the Brentuning flash runs better than when they first sent it, but it was still cutting out pretty violently sometimes at low rpm when I got on the throttle, so no it's definitely not there yet. However, some others with the same setup say it runs fine, so I think it may depend on where you live (I'm in California). If I had to do it over again I'd definitely still get the CS exhaust but get it dyno tuned instead of Brentuning. Only reason I didn't do that is because the tuners are all still waiting on a software update in order to actually be able to tune the bike on the dyno.

[@Praetorian27]

@@jetstream01 I'd love a great sounding slip on but I don't want an obnoxiously loud bike.

[@jetstream01]

@@Praetorian27 it's not obnoxious like a Gixxer with no pipe but it's definitely loud. Same volume as you'd get from any exhuast that is also a de cat. It's not unique to the CS racing one. So really your options are go with a slipon that still has a cat, or be ok with the loud volume lol

[@stringer4ever361]

Hey Jet.....I been a fan since the CBR days.....I had a ?..Was thinking of buying a 94 F2 Smokin Joe Edition. Wanted to know if those bikes had any querks and how was it to work on?

[@jetstream01]

Appreciate you sticking around! Funny thing is my next door neighbor has a 93 F2 in his driveway right now. Brings back memories. Anyways yes one thing they were notorious for is the regulator/rectifier going out. So if it stops charging, replace BOTH the rectifier and battery at the same time. I had an issue where I replaced only the rectifier and the bad battery killed it and vice versa. You can find a new rectifier on eBay with a large heat sink and it will be fine. Really easy to swap. Other than that it's a great bike, it was awesome until I wrecked it 😑

[@stringer4ever361]

@@jetstream01 Thanks for the info. Do you have IG? DM me at Stringer4ever. Would love to share some photos with you when build is done.

[@jetstream01]

@@stringer4ever361 damn not on IG but I'd love to see the pics. I'm on twitter if you search for Jetstream01.

[@kenangelocusi8813]

Considering this right now... I'm just torn between getting it dyno tune or upmap. I know dynotune would be better but pros that upmap give( remap to stock on phone) is pretty good if something ever happens. Hmmmm

[@jetstream01]

Have you actually verified with a shop that they can dyno tune this bike? When I tried to do it there was no one that could crack the ECU. Maybe it has changed by now. A good dyno shop will also be able to revert it back to stock for you. Just ask them to make sure.

[@kanalee9185]

I got the same set up. So Brentunning didn't help? That's what I was gonna go with.

[@jetstream01]

Brentuning was VERY helpful in that they emailed back and forth with me and kept sending different maps to try based on my feedback. This was years ago so I'm sure the map is a lot better now because this generation of bike was still new back then. Unfortunately I crashed the bike before I really got the tune dialed in. Honestly though, if I did it today, I'd go with a custom dyno tune. Only reason I didn't back when I had the bike was because no one had unlocked the ECU yet.

[@NobleBok]

You say it is LOUDER then the Akra? I have the Akro on my SF V4S and I couldn't imagine an exhaust being louder then that one 😰

[@jetstream01]

@@NobleBok it basically sounds like straight pipes. Not much "muffling" going on. I rode with my friend who has the Akra on his V4r and I'd say they're at least the same volume.

[@bbguardsp]

Was this exhaust loud enough that basically earplugs were mandatory?

[@jetstream01]

Yep

[@mackoysworld7260]

Do you get Check Engine light? Did you install an exhaust eliminator? Im really curious because my bike shows CEL and had to reset ecu all the time.

[@jetstream01]

That's because this exhaust eliminates the exhaust servo. So you need the exhaust servo eliminator or flash the ECU to one that accounts for this. I flashed it to Brentuning and it fixed that issue.

[@rsa-86]

Hello, was there considerable power gain with the installation of this exhaust?

[@jetstream01]

Nope, it actually LOST a lot of power due to needing a remap. You'll need to get a dyno tune, upmap, or get something like the Brentuning flash (which is what I'm doing).

[@manley9405ify]

Did you tune the bike? I have a 2021 Street Fighter and thinking about picking up this exhaust.

[@jetstream01]

@@manley9405ify ended up doing Brentuning stage 1 on it. Unfortunately it took a lot of back and forth with them to get the map somewhat usable but it still wasn't good (had a lot of sputtering issues down low). I'd definitely recommend the exhuast, but I'd try to get a custom dyno tune on it if you're able (as of right now we're waiting on a dyno software update for this to be possible). Others have reported it running fine with no tune at all.

[@stanleygodspeed4009]

@@jetstream01 what year is your SF from ?

[@mattiatorazzi3643]

hello I would be interested in buying it too. how do you find us? the sound is great

[@jetstream01]

Just search for CSRacing on Google, they should show up!

[@mattiatorazzi3643]

@@jetstream01 sorry for the wrong translation ... I meant to ask for your feedback

[@jetstream01]

Oh ok no problem! Build quality is great and in my opinion it's the cleanest looking exhaust for this bike due to the shroud. It looks nice and integrated with the bodywork. It is VERY loud, however, even with baffles in. I like it that way but just be aware that it's much louder than an Akrapovic system for example. Last, you definitely need to update the fuel map for it. I plan on getting it dyno tuned or flashing it myself. It doesn't run very good after putting the exhaust on and lost a lot of midrange power, which is understandable because the catalytic converter and exhaust servo are removed.

[@mattiatorazzi3643]

@@jetstream01 thank you very much for the info ... I'm going to mount it on the Streetfighter v4 and I have already bought the Upmap to remove the limitations and install the dekat map I can't wait to hear it on: D. Greetings from Italy

[@jetstream01]

You'll have the meanest sounding bike out of your group of friends, I can guarantee that! I may go the upmap route as well so I can revert to stock in case of warranty issues haha

[@anjan0103m]

by just using the slipon do i need to remap ,coz I'm not interested to remap

[@jetstream01]

Any exhaust that takes the catalytic converter out (like this one) is going to need a remap on this bike. The Ducati doesn't have a good auto tune system like BMW so it can't compensate for the increased airflow on its own. You could always just try it, but mine ran WAY worse without a remap. I went with the Brentuning flash and it still ran badly. I would just get a custom Dyno tune if you can. I couldn't when I had the bike because it wasn't available anywhere yet.

[@ablespine9453]

Hey buddy, have you found much of a difference since turning?

[@jetstream01]

Unfortunately I was never able to get the Brentuning map dialed in. It always had a horrible dead spot between 4-5k rpm. Since the bike has been out for a while now though, I'm sure you could get it dyno tuned which would be ideal.

[@anjan0103m]

why can't you upload another video with flyby or comparing other exhausts

[@jetstream01]

Did you watch towards the end? It does have flybys.

[@JosiasRivera]

Did you finally get tuning figure out all the way? How you liking the exhaust tone? I can’t decide between this or the arrow. I like this one a lot though it seems simple.

[@jetstream01]

I think the sound is amazing and really can't be beat. It's definitely on the loud side compared to other pipes. Worked with Brentuning back and forth for a while but no, it still had some massive dead spots in low rpms. Unfortunately I ended up crashing the bike so I never got it all the way figured out.

[@JosiasRivera]

@@jetstream01 Oh no! what happened? sale me the exhaust! lmao

[@jetstream01]

@@JosiasRivera hah too late! Insurance already paid me out for everything. Got super unlucky and hit some sand under braking going like 35mph but the bike unfortunately went over a cliff.

[@issaybunoan12]

Hi, my fiancé has the same exhaust set up like yours on his V4 and he was wondering if you got the check engine light after the install and what did you do?

[@jetstream01]

Did he install the exhaust servo eliminator? If not, that's the cause of the check engine light. It's a thing that plugs into the spot where you take out the exhaust servo during the install. Lower right side of the bike.

[@issaybunoan12]

@@jetstream01 no, he just unplug the two wires and he was wondering where did you get the servo eliminator?

[@jetstream01]

@@issaybunoan12 Here's a link to it, but this site is out of stock. Just look for the same product on another site. www.sportbiketrackgear.com/healtech-ducati-v4s-exhaust-servo-eliminator/

[@ricardoanez6436]

@@issaybunoan12 mine came without the servo and I contacted them and they sent it, but 100% positive that's the reason of the red light

[@jensensphotography4570]

I wanted to see if they could get rid of the ugly mufflers, do you suggest this? i was unsure if those big keg mufflers really didnt make a difference to the stock sound

[@jetstream01]

Which mufflers are you talking about? The stock one is a single unit under the bike with two inlets and two outlets and the exhaust servo all housed together. This aftermarket pipe is two separate mufflers that replace that whole unit and it eliminates the exhaust servo.

[@jensensphotography4570]

@@jetstream01 just the mufflers that are hidden once the exhaust is set up on the bike. Idk if they are exactly mufflers maybe like a resonator. But by the sounds of it the bike is loud with that setup which is sweet 👌🏻

[@jetstream01]

@@jensensphotography4570 ah I see what you're saying. With this brand of exhaust no you can't remove the cans. But once the covers are on, you can't see them anyways. And on top of that I think it would be obnoxiously loud running straight pipes anyways!

[@jensensphotography4570]

@@jetstream01 sweet, yeah now thinking about it running straight pipe would be painful! Thanks for the video by the way, it’s the best one on here for a real good sound of the exhaust l. You have convinced me to get one 🤙🏻

[@mrhredline6246]

Just ordered mine and got a tune setup for after install. Just curious, how long did it take to get yours? Says production is about 2 months out max? Strange…

[@jetstream01]

I believe it said that kind of time frame when I ordered mine as well, but I ended up getting it just a week or two after ordering.

[@mrhredline6246]

Great! Hope I am just as lucky! How has it been since installed? Any issues with the bike after a while?

[@jetstream01]

@@mrhredline6246 yeah, the main issue with the bike is I sent it over a cliff 🤣 this was only a few months after I got the exhaust installed unfortunately. The exhaust was great, but the sand from the road started to blast off the finish on the fiberglass covers they send with it, just a heads up. The biggest issue was with the tune though...I went with Brentuning and never was able to solve the horrible flat spot on partial throttle from about 4-5k rpm. That was like 2-3 years ago though, so I'm sure they've solved it by now.

[@mrhredline6246]

@@jetstream01 Thanks for the info! I'm coming up on the day of arrival for the exhaust. Sorry to bug and ask but do you know anything about the Upmap T800 and is their a map for this exhaust? Not sure if I even asked that question correctly lol.

[@jetstream01]

@@mrhredline6246 no worries, happy to help when I can. I have an Upmap on my Aprilia so I'm familiar with it. There does appear to be a map for this exhaust on their web store. Just Google UpMap CS Racing and it should show up. When you get the UpMap you'll get a coupon code with it that gives you at least one map for free, plus the stock map.

[@ashten92]

Does those slip ons come with the up-map or is it extra? And if so how mutch more, the CS is the best looking and more affordable then all the rest i have seen for the panigale V4. Thank you, I'm subscribed to your channel now my friend, your bike is sick brother by the way!

[@jetstream01]

Thanks for the sub! Exhaust does not come with any kind of mapping whatsoever. I'd recommend taking it to a local dyno shop for a custom flash after install.

[@ashten92]

@@jetstream01 is that just because it's not a popular brand and not on most upmaps software? I saw that what you did, how mutch was it?

[@jetstream01]

@@ashten92 I ended up going with Brentuning and worked with them to iterate on the custom map but it never worked well. It always had a bad dead spot on partial throttle between 4-5krpm. I think it ran like $800.

[@jetstream01]

@@ashten92 and yes not a hugely popular brand which is why UpMap probably doesn't have a map for it. Definitely the best sounding and best looking exhaust on the market though.

[@marksweeney7964]

Hi man, did you remove the o2 sensor for the instal?

[@jetstream01]

Sent you a PM on Facebook

[@CSRacingUSA]

No, you keep the O2 sensor.

[@bobmclaughlin1856]

Hey what’s the best tune for this exhaust

[@jetstream01]

Definitely not Brentuning. Best thing to do is take it to a local dyno tuner.

[@FranciscoSantos-vg3bn]

How can I buy what is the store link?

[@jetstream01]

csracingusa.com/products/2018-20-ducati-panigale-v4 Here you go

[@henrysheppard3433]

Why not up map instead of brentune?

[@jetstream01]

Good question. I went with Brentune because they claimed to be more specific with their tune (as opposed to UpMap which would be a generic map since they don't have one for the CS exhaust) and have better power gains. Unfortunately while it did definitely pick up a lot of top end, the bike was much less rideable and cut out a lot between 5-6k rpm even after working with Brentuning on the map. If I had to do it again I'd try the UpMap and see if it had the same issues.

[@henrysheppard3433]

@@jetstream01 I got a brentune s1000rr. I know brentune has quirks. Nothing as bad as you described but I think for the v4 the brentune isn't a refined tune. I got the cs exhaust. Looking for best tuning option before install. Quick glance on v4 forums I quickly ruled brentune out

[@jetstream01]

@@henrysheppard3433 I think the issue is the S1000rr automatically tunes AFR as you ride, meaning it always stays perfectly tuned, even stock, which is amazing and a superior way of doing things. The Panigale V4 does not appear to do this, which is why the AFR is super far off in some spots. It was way off even when I ran it with the exhaust and no flash.

[@henrysheppard3433]

@@jetstream01 yea Will report back on cs racing and up map combo soon. Incase you considering it

[@jetstream01]

@@henrysheppard3433 yes please do!

[@hangonkeha9742]

1:52 Omg

[@FranciscoSantos-vg3bn]

Como posso comprar qual o contato da loja ?

[@CSRacingUSA]

Opa, me chama no whatsapp [phone]

[@marksweeney7964]

Hi, what map you use with this?

[@jetstream01]

Hey I think we're in the same Facebook group for the Panigale! Anyways I was going to have it dyno'd and mapped locally but the guy says he has been waiting on an update to his software for my bike and I don't want to wait any more. So I ordered the Brentuning flash device and am going to do it myself. Runs pretty poorly with no map change.

[@marksweeney7964]

Thanks and yes we are..... was looking at Brentune....pm me when you set it up please -

[@jetstream01]

@@marksweeney7964 will do. A friend of mine has their stage 2 flash on his S1000rr and recommended it. I also have a shop lined up to dyno it after I install it so look out for that video!

[@marksweeney7964]

@@jetstream01 hi mate.... was just wondering does this exhaust need a link pipe? Not sure the configuration of the V4s so not sure?

[@jetstream01]

@@marksweeney7964 nope, the two mufflers just slip on to the existing headers.

[@romualdlarney6053]

Hi damn crazy shit...my bro

[@tejz22]

When I own this bike my only request is to be buried with it .

[@jetstream01]

😂

[@4doorsmoreores700]

Stock lawnmower

[@septianaryadoni661]

#haraldarkan

[@owlvisionvideography]

Deutscher TÜV sagt neeeeeein :(

[@solaria53]

First

[@screamy6220]

Why

[@ashhy..]

Why is this here

[@PainnGames]

Dam this bike sounds like shit... I guess its a very unique sound

[@stanleygodspeed4009]

it sounds freakin awesome