Stolas Hypocrisy Compilation

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tags: #helluvaboss #helluvabossseason2 #vivziepop
keywords: helluva boss, hazbin hotel, spindlehorse, vivziepop, stolas, stolitz

[@user-hv9kw6bv6q]

Just let the writers to cook

[@AutisticSwag]

The kitchen is on fire

[@Coconut_Glitch]

Let them cook! They made the series so they can make anything happen (Maybe Stolas realising he is a hypocrite at some times)

[@NaturedSwisha]

They added a new ring of hell from how burnt to the crisp the kitchen is

[@feet77777]

It good

[@leafromthereboot]

dude they burnt the house down

[@SqualingtonConstantine]

Blitz actually understands what he's done wrong and wants to change. Now we're just waiting for Stolas's equivalent of an apology tour for Blitz.

[@lililudanyi6029]

Yeah but Blitz did wrong to Stolas how? At this point i literally think i haven't watched the episodes correctly 'cause i literally can't see what he did to Stolas that was so wrong...

[@joel0joel0]

@@lililudanyi6029 Blitzos defense mechanism is insulting people and Stolas took the rant, Blitz was giving him, very poorly and Stolas is very hurt. The problem with those two is not that one of them did something particularly wrong, but that the way their defense mechanism work and their inability to proper communicate, leads to the disaster that is full moon.

[@redpanda6497]

​​​​​​​@@lililudanyi6029 Blitzo has an aggressive communication style, ignores boundaries ( Tbh Stolas, too ) insults people, teases people, sweeps his problem under a rug and isn't direct enough.

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

Stolas Knows EXACTLY what he did wrong. Thats why he gave him the Crystal becuase he understood it wasnt Ok and he was USING BLITZO. Hes just too much of an idiot to give Blitzo a chance to process and this cuased Blitzo to double down. Stolas is an idiot. Both of these two are IDIOTS

[@NatManzano]

* Stands in ovation *

[@perro692]

Season 1 stolas and season 2 stolas are just not the same guy

[@AutisticSwag]

Season 1 Stolas would eat Season 2 Stolas for breakfast.

[@clumsy_gx]

REAL

[@BlackMysteries1]

his hornyness in season 1 overshadowed his clear thinking

[@falconeshield]

It's like Stolas from Ozzie onwards has amnesia for his 1-7 versions

[@ChristinaMagma]

He had alot of character development (yeah i know in the video they say it’s bad writing) but don’t forget he stood up to Stella and finally got the divorce he wanted, so now he’s free to show his feelings. Even if hypocrisy is one of them.

[@jonquilgemstone]

Blitzø may have been a clown, but Stolas was the entire circus 😂

[@zoeefirmin-gomez219]

It's the contrary

[@-.-.-.aoi.-.-.-]

okay bro its like yall have not seen blitzo. the guy left verosika after she said she loved him, BUT that wasn’t enough. stole her car, AND maxed out her card for no reason. whos the real clown here?

[@Justastrangerontheinternet2122]

They’re both assholes

[@PAPicturesOfficial]

@@-.-.-.aoi.-.-.-Lmao the show is still good

[@-.-.-.aoi.-.-.-]

@@PAPicturesOfficial i know, i love helluva boss, but i hate when people show like two bad traits of a character, and then show the other one and act like they’re innocent. blitz is the one who initiated the sexual relationship in the first place, so obviously stolas thought it was oky. but, yeah some of stolas’ nicknames for Blitz were pretty scary, however, he thought it was flirty (still doesn’t make it right ik). Stolas stopped those nicknames too, later in s2. Blitz still has major issues, but im very glad hes finally owning up and he’s becoming a better person. this show is really good i never said it wasn’t

[@user-ie2mf1xg5h]

This made me realize that Stolas went to Loo Loo Land with Via *for* Via. But the entire time he only had his attention on himself and Blitzø, completely ignoring Via in every situation

[@Chip_Are_Fun]

Honestly he's straight up a neglectful father 💀💀🙏

[@rt2gd]

And by the end Via just forgives him, like he didn't flirt with the man he cheated with the entire time. "It will be our day, just the two of us" Then he went and did the same thing s2e2 only for via to forgive him AGAIN.

[@Shonen88_Champion]

In the episode "Loo Loo Land," Stolas said he would take Octavia to her "fun childhood place" to make her feel better after his and Stella's argument about him sleeping with an imp. However, shortly after, he calls the same imp to be his bodyguard, even though he doesn't need one because he is already strong by himself, even though it was supposed to be a father-daughter day. Throughout the Loo Loo Land scene, 95% of his attention was on Blitz, and only 5% on Octavia. He only focused on her when he saw her crying because of his flirting with Blitz in front of her. He promised her HE WOULD ALWAYS BE BY HER SIDE, but that was a lie. In the episode "The Stars," when Octavia was lost, he didn't care about being by her side but was instead fooling around with Blitz. He could have easily escaped that studio like he did in season 1, episode 6, when he transformed. He could have easily found Octavia, just as he did with Blitz in episode 6 by , "I have my ways, darling." In episode 6, he did all of that without his book for Blitz, but when his daughter was lost, he claimed, "No, no, no, I'm weak without my book. I can't do anything without it.

[@abloodraven3856]

@@Shonen88_Champion Hell, not just episode 6. Season 1 Episode 1 directly shows us that Stolas can spy on people, and uses it to force Blitz into the deal by waiting for a time where he pretty much couldn't say no. There's no excuse for him not to have searched a lot better for Octavia.

[@jonquilgemstone]

​@@Chip_Are_FunHe's ten times worse than his own father in terms of neglect, tbh, but the fans still think Stolas was a good dad who simply didn't have a good example. But here's a comparison between Stolas and the "poor example" (not soft-spoken) dad he had: Paimon didn't have much time for him, and he never budged on the expectations for their roles as Goetias, but in the brief screentime he got he always reacted immediately to Stolas's feelings, in his own way. Not just when Stolas was crying, and not just with words. "He's unhappy with news of his marriage, and the usual approach didn't work? Let me put whatever else I have to do on hold to take him to the circus. He liked the unpopular clown boy? Let me make sure he's not lonely again after I'm gone." Meanwhile, Via needs to run away in tears before Stolas even gives her a pep talk...only for him to continue disregarding her feelings afterwards! "You're unhappy about me cheating on your mother, and the resulting conflict between me and her? Let's go somewhere we used to all go together, except without her. Oh, let me bring the guy I cheated on your mother with. And let me force you to come along when you don't want to. And let me constantly talk dirty to him while you're right there in our presence. You want to look at stars with me, as I said we would? And the divorce is hard on you? Yelling at your mother over the phone right in front of you while her stuff is removed is more important. Never mind just hanging up on her."

[@Randomhero20999]

I think This was done on purpose cause Stolas lacks self awareness like he can’t understand that “my impish little plaything” or “impty bipty imps” can offend Blitz because he was raised to be that way. So I think the show is trying to create an arc where Stolas realizes he’s been a dumbass hypocrite and apologizes to Blitz.

[@ljutarskavica8055]

Yea.. but so far he hasn’t been held accountable for his mistakes so.. hopefully we’ll see that

[@gildemoon]

THIIIIIS

[@falconeshield]

Via will call him out 100%

[@flowerboi16]

I think we need to have that actually be called out within the narrative itself

[@ZzZzWillow]

True true true

[@MandyMiii]

In the Apology Tour description, it says that Stolas isn’t self aware yet. That probably means he’ll recognize his past actions eventually. I REALLY HOPE SO.

[@Southparkfan598]

Most likely, he grew up with a bad father, who possibly taught him that all this stuff was ok

[@Southparkfan598]

It also doesn’t help that he has a imp butler

[@user-xo2wr1sp1m]

THIS WHY ISNT ANYONE IN THIS VIDEO TALKING ABT THIS, UR SUPPOSED TO KNOW HE HAS FLAWS AND HES A HYPOCRITE AND JUST AS BAD AS BLITZØ ITS NOT BAD WRITING HE’S JUST IMPERFECT??!?!

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

I think its more he can not emotionally process anything that has happened and so is running from it. Blitzo reaction to messing up is DOUBLE DOWN/DOUBLE DOWN/DOUBLE DOWN. So Blitzo is like "Mess up HARDER" and Stolas is like "Panick and Run". Though it feels like Blitzo is trying a bit harder to change for the time being.

[@That_1GayTheaterKid]

Just because the description acknowledges it doesn’t mean the plot does.

[@Jaeden-uz6jy]

I was so confused when 'Apology Tour' came out and they acted as if Blitzø was the only one who screwed up. Like are we gonna firget the time when they were finally having a conversation outside of sex at Ozzie's and Stolas hid his face; ashamed to be seen with him? That and every other time Stolas has treated Blitzø like he was a little plaything and nothing more.

[@marshyxangie4005]

REAL OMG 😭

[@megankissinger8269]

He wasn't ashamed to be seen with Blitz. He was ashamed because Ozzie called him out for being married with a child, yet having an affair.

[@NoodlesWithLipstick]

I interpreted that as Stolas being embarrassed that he left his marriage for someone who couldn’t care less about being on a date with him or having a conversation with him. He kept trying to initiate convo, and he wasn’t embarrassed when he entered the establishment with Blitz.

[@mite3959]

They weren't having a conversation because Blitzo was too busy stalking M&M

[@Zzzzzzzzzzz789]

Man, Stolas messed up a lot but that wasn't one of the times. Did everyone forget that Blitz made him believe they were on a date so he could spy on Millie and Moxie like a voyeur?

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Stolas: *"Have you even apologised once in your life?"* Blitzo: 3:50 So we can add *gaslighting* to Stolas' many crimes.

[@ScottB.392]

Even then blitzo shouldn't have aplogized in that scene bc stolas literally acted embarrassed to be with him at ozzie's so ofc he doesn't want to hang with him

[@s-k-i-t-e4388]

​@@ScottB.392that scene has been pissing me off and no one has mentioned it except you

[@DeadpanJury]

@@ScottB.392blitzo only asked stolas out so he could get an excuse to spy on millie and moxxie, stolas was excited to go to ozzies because he thought it was a date, he was insanely nervous and blitzo was the one who acted embarassed to be there, asmodeus called out that stolas left his wife for blitzo and when someone calls you out infront of an entire crowd of people do you really expect him to not be embarassed? stolas even asked blitzo afterwards if he wanted to chill out inside and spend time with him afterwards but blitzo brushed him off

[@yuinyaH]

​@@DeadpanJuryBlitz took Stolas covering his face as a confirmation that Ozzie was right about "you sold your life for a thrust". only for a thrust. their relationship is, in fact, about sex, and nothing else. he is, in fact, unlovable. that's why he didn't want to spend time with Stolas that day, he got his answer

[@DeadpanJury]

@@yuinyaH but blitzo also acted embarassed and pulled away from stolas at ozzies, he seemed angry at stolas for being there when he made an effort to have a conversation even after asking him to go

[@Forgorgogrgrgr]

The fact that he says these things in front of his daughter 😭😭😭

[@chelonianmobile]

I've already stated that his treatment of Blitzo is rape, but I'm pretty sure that's sexual abuse of Octavia too. It's certainly gross.

[@robbie_the_mastermind2176]

Stolas being a hypocrite isn’t a bad thing, it’s actually Really common for people to do things they said/thought they would/n’t do.

[@Cherry-ki3ln]

True! But I'm not sure we can trust the writer to actually give him consequences.... Well, I'll hold out hope for now though it's not looking the best in that department

[@AutisticSwag]

Very good point. My problem isn't that a character is a hypocrite; my problem is that (I'm almost certain) it's not intentional on the writers part. But I should have been clearer

[@mist0804]

@@AutisticSwag They call out Stolas' lack of self-awareness in the description of Apology Tour, i'm pretty sure he'll get an episode of his own about his problems

[@leonardowickman57]

​@@Cherry-ki3lnYou read my mind! Considering how much the show is leaning towards Stolas, I do have my worries.

[@HoshiNoPao]

​​@@mist0804Knowing from the s2 trailer, Octavia calls Stolas out for loving Blitzø a lot more than his own daughter. So fingers crossed on hoping that Octavia would be the one to snap him out of it and finally realize his faults and hypocrisy.

[@KnucklesGameplays]

"Impish Little Plaything" -Stolas, the guy that totally doesn't diminish Blitz.

[@lililudanyi6029]

Can i actually be honest? I literally don't see what Blitz has done to Stolas To provoke this whole thing. He didn't have the reaction you wanted him to have when you gave him the crystal? He told you exactly how he felt about the whole situation you put him through by treating him like a sex toy?he didn't rescue you from striker? DUDE is a fucking goetia Blitz didn't even think he could get hurt, and he didn't leave him alone, he sent Moxie and Millie (Whom actually convince him that they could handle it so he can be with his daughter to this very important appointment). Didn't visit you in hospital??? Bro is NOT your boyfriend, he is someone you have a contract with. Blitz has fucked up loads of times, i do get Verosika and i agree with her, but i TRULY don't see how Stolas can get so butthurt about the whole situation to then go out and sing a whole song (which i love to be honest, listening to it right now, but that's not the point) about how blitz hurt him. These are his ex's, you are NOT his ex.

[@KitKatbar168]

Real

[@marshyxangie4005]

Real

[@charlie8829]

Yea and I argue he’s more intelligent then he leads on like COME ON DUDE U KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING UP. It’s emotional abuse plain and simple and the fact people go out of their way saying “ThEiR bOtH wROOnG” is so insulting

[@AlfaBankAO]

They didn't even have a relationship so that Stolas could become Blitz's ex.

[@alyssabullock6421]

For real though, it's literally proven now that Blitz never thought Stolas loved him, so why should he be expected to return his feelings when this whole time he's felt genuinely looked down on and used?? Stolas needs to be more considerate and aware of what he's done Also, of course, Stolas was shocked with himself when he actually felt more genuine attraction to Blitz, so up until recentl, their relationship has been nothing but a contract for lust and business.

[@BeansRiceCornandSpice]

Hoooo you don't know how BADLY I need someone in this show who's not an explicit villain or someone in the wrong to actually call out this fucking bird directly in the show PLEASEEEE I will become the biggest helluva meatrider if that happens, I need it so bad.

[@loveless1275]

Good news! According to the season 2 trailer, it's going to be Octavia, who does just that! ("You never loved mother and you don't love me! You love him!"). Kinda bad news. We're gonna have to wait until the episode drops in either October, November or December.

[@BeansRiceCornandSpice]

@@loveless1275 That line from her sounded more like something Stella told her to drive a rift between her and her dad to be honest. Calling it now, it's gonna be a fault on her part for even daring to think her dad doesn't love her, and it's gonna be a way to further woobify poor baby stowas oh nuu. Even then she's not calling out Stolas for treating Blitz poorly, her yelling at him is deserved (if it doesn't turn out to be manipulation), but I don't think she should be the only one.

[@BeansRiceCornandSpice]

@@loveless1275 Actually yk what it would be really funny if via was the one to call out her dad for his treatment of the lower class. She's a punk gen z kid archetype, even if she's rich and privileged it doesn't seem like something she'd let slide. Her going off on a tangent like "I don't know that seems a bit RACIST dahhd." Maybe that's too on the nose but honestly I just can't get that image out of my head now.

[@loveless1275]

@@BeansRiceCornandSpice Honestly, that would be fun. But I honestly believe that it's actually going to be something Via says out of her own volition, rather than something Stella told her to do. Whatever it ends up being, I truly hope it's FINALLY knocks some sense into Stolas.

[@falconeshield]

Sinmas is gonna hurt baaad

[@hekkrs]

The thing that irks me the most is that stolas and his hypocrisy isnt adressed in the show because hes a "soft uwu boy who could do nothing wrong, and its all blitzos fault" the way this is written just makes stolas come off as abusive, and it feels like the writers don't even see that.

[@herpderp3916]

They really just turned Stolas into a soft sad uwu gay boi and that absolves him of all sins I guess

[@HyunjinHwang-ub9ep]

Eso es lo que más me molesta y la gran cantidad de gente odiando a Blitz, y haciendolo ver como el gran villano que lastimo a un "pobre chico sentimental" cuando literalmente Stolas tambien cometió muchos errores.....

[@EditorHarlequin]

​@@HyunjinHwang-ub9ep Blitzø también es una horrible persona (demonio), pero es cierto que Stolas es peor. Me sorprende la cantidad de gente simpeando por él a pesar de los cambios tan abruptos de personalidad xD

[@megankissinger8269]

Say it with me: media literacy. Do you remember anything about his life prior to meeting Blitz? How is he supposed to have the same level of social skills when he's never had any friends and spent his whole life alone in a palace with no one to talk to? They already started addressing this in the mirror bits of "All 2 U." Why is this so hard for people to get?

[@nicolpineda8632]

​@@megankissinger8269why are you saying us the plot when we are hating about the NARRATIVE. THE NARRATIVE with blitzo is "thats not an excuse, get your shit together" And THE NARRATIVE for stolas is "i undertand where you coming from,get well soon" So or perception of the "Gravity " their actions is not driven of the actions themselfs but WHO did it. With stolas we should feel sad about his lerned behavior And with blitz we schuld feel frustrated about his lernet behavior. Thats the problem.

[@jobaqymXD]

2:12 the fact that Blitz is been more respectful to Octavia than Stolas says a lot, don't you think?

[@mr.pokaboofury4002]

3:18 "never seen a REAL demon before?" WHAT ARE IMPS NOT DEMONS???

[@Material_melody]

He dosent see them as real demons (like a human not seeing another human as human) because he’s more powerful than them he dosent see them as demons with actual feelings, or something other than little toys

[@SirLuckySlime]

In that same scene: "are you little creatures not being careful up here?" Infantilizing does not even begin to describe that line. It's like he sees them more as lost pets...

[@rabbit0.023]

Bros racist

[@Material_melody]

@@rabbit0.023 this is why he can’t say the n word

[@nexenzy5825]

WAIT WAIT WAIT 3:55 BLITZ BEING CLEAR AND REAL WITH HIM AND GIVING HIM A "I'm sorry"?!?!?!

[@Azaelris]

Holy crap

[@dryfox11]

“wHeN hAvE I EvEr LoOkEd DoWn oN yOu-“ when he’s literally explained exactly how he views the “relationship” they have summed up in one dang sentence, with the status quo of said relationship set by bird boy himself.. We better get an apology, or at least SOMETHING to have bird brain own up to his own pile of misdeeds

[@Southparkfan598]

@@dryfox11He didn’t know that Stolas thought it was a legit date, he apologized to Stolas for leading him on, he hasn’t apologized for not seeing the signs or just seeing him as a monthly one night stand, not even said thank you for free access to earth

[@crystalgeode2336]

Yeah! Just noticed this! Stolas, Mr "Have you ever apologized for anything in your life" Goetia, like yes???? Blitzo a0

[@KitKatbar168]

@@Southparkfan598he tried too talk and apologize

[@brynner_boutique]

He's a shitty dad but the writers try to show that he isn't. It's honestly heart breaking

[@Lab-Gr0wn-Lambs]

If they acknowledge this then that's actually just rly interesting character writing

[@adrianoctavio]

Pretty giant *if* though. Show this season has shown nothing but a willingness to bend over backwards to make stoles look like this perfect boy with no flaws.

[@Insanely_Mads]

I really really really hope they do, but I have an awful feeling they will just continue to ignore it and place all the blame on Blitz 🙄 obviously he's not much in the right either, but both of their miscommunication needs to be addressed and now that Blitz received his just desserts I'm expecting the exact same treatment for Stolas.

[@sentificial3546]

​@@Insanely_Mads actually Viv addressed this on Twitter and in the description on the latest episode looks like we'll be getting a episode of stolas realizing he's a hypocrite and I'm here for it

[@christopherbennett5858]

@@sentificial3546I hope so. I’m just used to creators using Twitter almost like extra chapters to a book. Hence, the coined term “confirmed on Twitter only”.

[@Lab-Gr0wn-Lambs]

@@sentificial3546 yeah like I'm choosing to have a little faith here

[@Plerp222]

I never fucking liked Stolas I needa get that off my chest sorry I genuinely just dislike him He’s not evil I just don’t like him, i dislike his personality, hypocrisy, entitlement, lack of empathy I rlly don’t like him

[@Iatemuffins]

I dont like him either.. i also dont hate but dont like the ship..like i dont care AT ALL if they break up or get together.

[@toja1309]

I never liked him either.

[@KissLizzz]

Same ! I don’t understand how people ship them 😒

[@C0TT0N_C4NDY]

Never liked him either

[@SirLuckySlime]

Same. Wish they kept the antagonist Stolas that was obviously intended from the pilot and pre-Ozzie's... He's actually quite entertaining when the show isn't bending over backwards to woobify him.

[@CrusoelandProductions]

I honestly think Stolas and the relationship would have worked much better as a pseudo antagonist and joke/conflict respectively. It kinda feels like they just randomly switched gears later because they had a new idea that they liked better.

[@T_Teobokki]

YOU, YOU GET IT

[@herpderp3916]

Pilot Stolas definitely feels like a whole different character than show Stolas. Hell, even the tone of the pilot is different from the later episodes of the show.

[@akisatsuki8444]

I think that’s actually what happened. Stolas was meant to be an antagonist but they changed their minds for some reason

[@Mi..Mi..]

​​@@akisatsuki8444it was because the voice actor didnt like how stolas was i think?

[@jonquilgemstone]

​@@akisatsuki8444The ship sold merch, I guess.

[@river9603]

It pisses me off when the response to this is always “wellllll they both have flaws” OBVIOUSLY so maybe let’s have a conversation about those flaws on stolas’s end WITHOUT THE FANDOM SHUTTING IT DOWN OR MAKING EXCUSES EVERY GODAMN TIME

[@magicdolphin3090]

thank you. every single Stolas defender repeats the same couple of "arguments". like "you guys are impatient", and "its a character flaw, not bad writing". its funny, i can copy and paste the same response because these comments are the exact same lol. they all miss the point anyways

[@nicolpineda8632]

​We are complaining about the narrative been soft with poor gay boy soft stolas and they answer with the PLOT. They are alway like "in the description says he is not aware" or "let them cook" One problem i have is in apology tour is all about shifting on blitzo's behavior, i hate it because we already have that EVERY EPISODE . And this people are like "this episode was needed because he is finally aware that he hurt people" He already know since episode ONE "he is afraid to have relationships because he hurts people" is his character arc. But even if they want to gaslight us about in not been aware about the consequences of his actions, why is blitz unawares painted so dirty but stolas unawares is like " poor sheltered 35 gay sad soft boy, he doesn't know anybetter"

[@Smokes_Blunts_and_A_Seal]

Should have gave stolas the clown wig too.

[@trystonanimations1175]

Maybe let him join the circus with fizzaroli lol

[@marshyxangie4005]

HELP-

[@Nightixx-the-clown]

​@@trystonanimations1175REALL

[@PrincessOfTheNight01]

I never noticed how Blitz looks at Stolas at 3:32 in comparison to how angry he looks after Stolas yells at them for being careless. It’s little things like that that show how Stolas’ words and actions insult him without Stolas meaning them to. I really hope we get an episode where Stolas realizes this/his faults.

[@nicolpineda8632]

And about that, his daughter STEAL the book from imp and stolas gets angry that they don't have better security? I'm kind of asking myself if he ever disciplined her daughter, if i not wrong, Via is almost 20 (my age!) Why is she not improving herself o something, a career o hobbies. Why is she so invested in Childhood promises? Why doesn't she understand the "we don't love eachother" from the parents ant this point of life.

[@cam_luong]

​​@@nicolpineda8632Via is not "almost 20" btw. She's 17.

[@dorkenspache8353]

This is such a good example of how out of touch Stolas is, likely due to his sheltered upbringing. And before I continue, no this is not excusing his actions, more pointing out how his character has been set up like this from the very first episode and how Full Moon airs it all out in the open. Stolas never had any friends until Blitz, and seemingly the only close connections he has had with someone outside of the Goetia family was Blitz. This leads to someone who has ot developed necessary social skills, which includes reading social cues and understanding how your intentions are not always clear and don't always match the affect. This is very evident because, in Stolas' mind, he is just following the dynamic that Blitz leaned into on their first meeting as adults, thinking this is the kind of relationship Blitz wants without realizing that Blitz only pity fucked him to steal the book. All he interprets is Blitz wanted to fuck him and took the book out of necessity, so in his mind the arrangement he set up was to give them both something they wanted. Then comes his behavior of calling Blitz "Blitzy" thinking its like a cutesy couples name when it comes across more as a pet name, and thus when he is showing affection and using it in public towards Blitz, it is clear his intention is "that's my man!" when it actually comes across as "that's my plaything, that's my pet." Let's also not forget how in Loo Loo Land, he refers to Moxxie and Millie as "you lesser ones" instead of by name, showing his respect for people of a lower class isn't really there unless it is Blitz, but again, the way he is communicating is not coming across as that and Stolas is unable to see that. But even when Stolas realizes just how wrong it is to have Blitz in this relationship, to trap him in a scenario where he has no choice but to accept the terms of the deal. And before anyone says "well Blitz could've easily chosen a different career and said no to Stolas" need I remind you he broke demon law by stealing and using it in the first place and Stolas KNOWS this? If he refused, Stolas could've retaliated by not only taking the book back, but also having him arrested. Blitz literally could not refuse unless he wanted to go out of business, lose his work family, and at worst go to jail. So no, Blitz had no choice. And even after Stolas learns how wrong it is to trap Blitz in this kind of a relationship and start planning the big gesture to set him free, when it comes to the actual night he performs this act, he basically gives Blitz ZERO choice. I'll address his structuring later, but the fact of the matter is he follows this script in his head and basically puts Blitz on the spot to choose yes or no to Stolas, and as soon as he doesn't give one of those answers and misinterprets the situation, Stolas just walks away, saying "I have my answer, you needn't say any more." Like you said you would listen to him but then leave when you have YOUR answer? It shows a level of hypocrisy beyond the obvious "you think it's always about sex" line that everyone already knows is hypocritical. But let's also look back at how the night was structured, because it shows clearly just how unequipped Stolas is for a real relationship. He clearly based his entire mode of thinking about relationships on stuff like rom coms, soap operas and tella-novellas, which show these grand, big gestures of affection and love towards someone as the ideal when most people like the small things. And this is more of a note on him in ANY relationship in general, not just with Blitz, because his expectations would've been shattered and broken whether Blitz was the one to do it or someone else was. But this context is important because it explains why Stolas acted the way he did in Full Moon. He had a script of setting this big reveal and big speech about how much he cares Blitz, but he just followed the script WAY too closely. He saw Blitz come in guns blazing ready to fuck and kinda just ignored everything, instantly asks for the book, and then says it is permanent. This is the point of major whiplash where Blitz goes from horny to "something is off" to "oh know I'm being thrown away" and further into begging mode when his usual tricks do not work. And while Stolas is setting up the big reveal, it is even more whiplash where Blitz is kinda stuck in this state of "I'm being thrown away" because all he hears is "you won't need my book and you won't be obligated to see me anymore" which explains why Blitz asks Stolas if his performance in the bedroom is the problem. The entire structure before the reveal was so poorly planned out and Stolas stuck way too close to the script not really paying much attention to how Blitz was acting or how this lead up made him feel. Now idk if this would've gone better had he structured it better, but I think this night is such a clear indication of why their relationship is breaking down at this point: neither of them are properly communicating with each other. Blitz because of his emotional walls and Stolas because of his ignorance and inability to put himself in someone else's shoes. I think what makes this worse though is Stolas KNOWS Blitz has emotional walls and still doesn't really react to or care about the emotions he is feeling in Full Moon? Like the music video with Stolas literally has a line "and no matter what in this world I could give, it's not enough to get through the walls you conjured up to live" Like those lines tell us SO much about what Stolas is aware of. He knows Blitz is putting up walls to shut people out but isn't trying to be gentle and help him tear those walls down. And again, I feel like this comes from the rom coms he watches, he was expecting this big grand gesture of love to be the thing that finally got Blitz to open up, but the harsh reality is that something like that isn't going to be enough. It took Blitz doing a small bit of introspection after attending the "Blitzo Sucks" party to realize how shitty he has been, which tracks because usually people learn to change their bad ways once they have fucked up majorly. And I have a feeling it is going to take a lot more than Blitz laying it on him for Stolas to realize his mistake. I have a feeling something with Octavia is going to make him genuinely realize how oblivious he has been, since it really does seem like Octavia is kinda tuned out of all this Goetia family bullshit and royal hierarchy compared to the others, but we don't have much of her as a character to begin with since she's mostly been used as a vector for Stolas to develop as a character. Sorry for the long rant, I just think so many Stolas fans are in denial about his flaws because they think they can't like him if he is a bad person. Guys, it's okay to like a character who is not perfect, not a good person, hell, even someone who is down right evil and abusive (cough cough Valentino), that's the beauty of entertainment. These are characters people put on and create and if they are compelling and well written for the role they are playing, then it's okay to like them for how they are written while still pointing out their flaws as people. Well written characters have flaws, conflicts, and things to learn and grow from just like real people. You can say Stolas is a hypocrite while still saying he is a good character Edit: saw the thing at the end, no it isn't bad writing, it is good writing to set up a character in this way where they are so unaware of how their actions affect others that they are unknowingly a hypocrite. Even Vivzie herself agrees this is how Stolas is, he gets caught up in his feelings and can't see objective reality

[@lililudanyi6029]

I don't know i just feel like this whole situation is kind of: My boss has been paying me for doing my job then one day he gives me endless amount of money and tells me he loves me and wants to be with me, and then when I'm confused about the whole situation he goes out in public and sings a song about how much i hurt him. Only that in this case it's prostitution

[@mr.morris_]

FCKN YAS❤😫

[@kelikosha]

You notice all things perfectly, you should make videos on youtube. I learned so much from this, thank you! BEST ANALYSIS

[@dorkenspache8353]

@@lililudanyi6029 I think that dynamic misses the clear major power imbalance. A royal vs a commoner is a lot bigger of a power imbalance than boss and employee. Like Stolas could easily get out of any serious legal punishment because of his status, but a boss really can't

[@dorkenspache8353]

@@kelikosha I mean, others have said this as well like Sarcastic Chorus. I just genuinely hate how much people woobify Stolas, yet also say he is a terrible character because he is kind of an ignorant person. Like just because a character is a bad person doesn't mean they are a bad character. Both can be true at once

[@Mr2010forgeben]

I mean It's a character flaw that he lacks self-awareness. We, as the audience, know he developed genuine feelings, but he's still very much in the wrong

[@ChristinaMagma]

This

[@rt2gd]

If i see one more person say "it's a character flaw" im gonna go insane. Why doesnt somebody else around him call him out? Blitz did, and then we are given the pathetic "i didnt know you think so low of me line". I would have agreed that it was done on purpose if the writers didnt make blitz try to apologize directly after and the whole "apology tour" episode where we are supposed to act like stolas is the only one who got done wrong. Verosika is the one who has a right for a pity party, not stolas. also literally everyone in the comment section of the new episodes is dickeating stolas, and the writers don't want to upset their fandom. If stolas does get held accountable, it's gonna be anticlimactic and disappointing.

[@Mr2010forgeben]

@@rt2gd Honestly I'm with you. I really like Stolas and want things to turn out right for both of them, but he needs to recognize his issues and be held accountable for them

[@tlkfanrwbyfan8716]

⁠@@rt2gdVerosika held the party to help everyone hurt by Blitzø, and that does include Stolas. Neither Stolas or Blitzø are in the right, neither side are wrong either. Don’t know where you got the “only Stolas was done wrong” thing. Yes, we know he’s a massive hypocrite, but that’s the point; he doesn’t. People don’t just change overnight, especially when they’re so stuck in their ways like Stolas. The party is showing all the people Blitzø hurt. Do we know in detail how they were hurt? No, not really, but we know how Blitzø acts when placed in those situations. Should Stolas be called out? Absolutely, but you people act like it needs to be resolved in three episodes when, no, that’s not how it works, especially for someone so engrained in hypocrisy like Stolas is. For people who keep emphasizing the hypocrisy, I’d think you’d people would know just how hard it is to truly get out of it. A half-baked call-out from Verosika or any of the other party goers isn’t going to mean anything to Stolas. He’s doesn’t know those people, why should he care what they think? Octavia is going to be the one to call him or because, although Stolas isn’t a _good_ father, he’s a loving father that does listen to Octavia, even if he doesn’t follow up on his words. Octavia may be a kid, but she has way more power over Stolas than people think.

[@KitKatbar168]

@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 it just feels like they are portraying it that way

[@BoredZozo]

I wouldn’t have such an issue with this if it wasn’t for the writing staff trying to frame this all as Blitz’s issue 😭 like Stolas actively talks down to imps and abuses his imp waitstaff constantly. He doesn’t view imps on a equal level he only does for Blitz because he wants to bone him 😭 like Blitz’s reaction is 100% understandable and idk why the writing team are acting like stolas has been some equal rights advocate for imps this entire time nor ever spoke down about/to Blitz.

[@magicdolphin3090]

thank you, so many people are not understanding the difference between what a character believes and what the writing is portraying.

[@Phantasy111]

He litterally called him "my impish little plaything" this show doesn't make any sence or just lack of impirtent informations...

[@serenitythesiren5031]

I hope they bring this up in a later episode.

[@kawaiicat2424]

I need that I am seriously desappointed if they do not

[@marshyxangie4005]

THEY BETTER

[@petofiarkwright3236]

I never realized how fucked up it is that Blitz is literally having a PTSD related panic attack to what had happened when the circus exploded, and Stolas' first instinct to seeing him panic is to be sexual to him in an attempt to "calm him down", and being so dismissive about it and just showing him on stage. I feel so bad for him

[@Actualbowlofsoup]

like even based on how he treats other imps, refers to millie and moxxie and “you littler one” or “you little creatures”refers to himself as a “real demon” implying imps and hellhounds arent real demons. refers to the citizens of wrath as “commoners”(while you can say he meant this literally that was he said it very much present how he views them iin the hiearchy). doesnt care when his wife throws one across the room. goes to a cafe labeld “the poor pours for you”. manhandles his butler when talking to stell on the phone. likes its painfully obvious he does not respect demons of a lower class, so he definitley does not follow any opposikng sentiment with blitz. even if he did, what makes his treatment any better. they tried to pull a he actually treats imp nicely its just the society around him but that immediatly gets thrown out by his actions as an adult. imagine for that matter these characters were humans, would the conversations sound any better or worse if it was in the context of race or ethnicity(this question is worse since their implied human forms are of differing skin tones as well)? probably sounds worse.

[@Actualbowlofsoup]

this is especially worse when you realize how rare for an imp to have a business, to the point most demons congratulate him for making it out tha far. his identity as an imp is very important to him so stolas’ comments only make this worse stolas really need a wake up call, i know hes meant to be ignorant but i want equal treat for how blitze is treated with his action than stolas. i want a moment where a character can call him out fully without him sending the characters away. like a moment he actually sits there and realizes how bad his actions are. something equal to blitz. cause blitze has gone through it man.

[@JavorinaMaria]

u cooked here

[@herpderp3916]

Stolas learning that he needs to be kinder to all imps, not just the one he's crushing on, would be a massive improvement for him.

[@Actualbowlofsoup]

@@herpderp3916 for real, like imagine dating someone whos racist towards your race but not you JUST because hes into you

[@animeonepiecelife1663]

@@herpderp3916 Fr, that's one of the major issues I have with him.

[@brotooverslept_]

The M&Ms in my opinion are the most healthy relationship in the entire franchise..

[@AlanNaegiri]

With Fizz and Ozzie, as well as Charlie and Vaggie, if you include Hazbin Hotel.

[@brotooverslept_]

@@AlanNaegiri Yeah, them too. The M&Ms and Fizz&Ozzie relationships always protect themselves, unlike Stolitz which is always about sex.

[@AlanNaegiri]

​@@brotooverslept_Their relationship revolved around Blitz's lack of communication skills and Stolas' belief that Blitz was either fickle or an expert at sex.

[@tylere.8436]

A little TOO healthy, practically a hallmark card of a couple.

[@user-dz1fz8xh5k]

@@AlanNaegiri Tbh, Charlie and vaggie is only healthy because it’s pretty boring. I don’t really care about the two to be honest. Especially vaggie, I don’t hate her but i don’t care about Charlie or their relationship

[@ObamaMpreg]

Stolas not understanding why calling Blitz shit like “my impish little plaything” and “itty bitty imp” comes off as (and is!) demeaning makes him that much more infuriating. As horrible as Stella is, at least she’s aware she’s horrible.

[@LDarmy]

"Your first instinct is that it's always about sex" look who's talking 🫵😂

[@gutzz._exe]

exactly?!!

[@MikaelaBomgordon]

I think it's one thing to want sex when things are good and another to use it as a solution when things are bad.

[@forg839]

@@MikaelaBomgordon yeah no these ppl dont understand, dont evne try explaining

[@gianna4732]

He is right tho he was clear with what he felt and Blitz took it as something sexual , plus ever since season 1 stolas tried to make their interactions more personal Even Blitz stated this

[@MOROMIRACL]

​@@gianna47321:from the start of their contract (stolas started it) until that moment it was always about sex stolas did nothing to make blitz think otherwise 2:stolas hasn't said anything to blitz about this being an important conversation and gave him two seconds to respond of course he will say something stupid he has no reason to think otherwise

[@user-hf6io7sv2o]

Until its adressed as an issue in the show its just bad writing, because from the narrative everyone who lacks deductions skills keep saying Stolas is so GREAT and didnf do any mistakes at all cuz rhey keep pampering a whole ass adult in his 30s

[@mist0804]

It will be adressed with a 99% guarantee, they call him out on it in the description of Apology Tour as well as some tweets

[@user-hf6io7sv2o]

@@mist0804 yeah I know that and that vivzie said they're both at fault but I'm just saying that as far as what we have it's just not very good

[@PlanetZoidstar]

It comes across more like Stolas is a Sociopath who lacks empathy.

[@Lagohuera4958]

​@@mist0804Then the studio sell merchandise about hating Blitz. Yeah, they have a lack of selfawareness

[@HyunjinHwang-ub9ep]

@@Lagohuera4958 Necesitaba tanto un comentario asi , por qué tratan de hacer a Blitz el culpable de absolutamente todo, ? Como el villano que lastimo a la pobre "princesita". Cuando Stolas tambien cometió muchos errores......

[@silvignis2028]

EXACTLY. I swear the fandom would fall for Lila from MLB because they get manipilated SO easily by the bad writing 😭 everyone coddles Stolas while Blitz is actually the victim unlike between him and Verosika f.e. Only because Stolas was like "whaa Bwizzie thinks a royal like me, who used his servant imp as stress toy and knows how imps are treated, loowks down on himm 😭😭". Blitz basically got the Chloe/Stella treatment where the writer doubles down on char a(blitz) beeing bad to make character b(Stolas) look better. I hate it and honestly I am only watching the show now to criticize and I have a tiny glimpse of hope its getting somewhere EDIT: since the video is blowing up atm I need to say that I think its bad writing because, imo, the ship is wayyy too toxic to be functional even if the writers try to spin it around. Both parties used each other(and I do think the belittling and, ehem, SA on Stolas' part is worse). And idk it doesnt look like one of those ships where some apology and " I worked on myself" just fixes it. I do actually think it should not be endgame otherwise the message behind this ship feels very wrong. I think Stolas is not necessarily 100% getting the same treatment as Blitz here(considering the writers went ham on the Blitz party to go "look at this TON of people who hate HIM" to make his actions the same level as Stolas'? Idk about that...

[@greyscaleanon7551]

I think the writers are aware that he's being a hypocrite given what they put in the description under the Apology Tour episode.

[@falconeshield]

Chloe deserved so much better tbh

[@manessachehab]

​@falconeshield yeah Seriously, I don't understand how the writer thinks that she is irredeemable

[@manessachehab]

​@falconeshield yeah Seriously, I don't understand how the writer thinks that she is irredeemable

[@manessachehab]

​@falconeshield yeah Seriously, I don't understand how the writer thinks that she is irredeemable

[@begaydoartcraft]

a lot of people say that s1 and s2 stolas are so different, i dont think i agree, its just s2 stolas is a little more aware but not about the important stuff. like he is convinced that their only problem is transaction, and completely ignores the fucked up shit he consideres flirting

[@thatonesdani975]

LITERALLY THIS ty 🙏🏻

[@bastiantales]

Finally, when I saw apology tour I was like "are f*cking seriuos!?😂"

[@marshyxangie4005]

SAME OMG

[@orn8471]

They just realisied waaaay too late that they need to do somethibg with these characters. Some episodes are literally YEARS apart. They just didnt know where to go with this ship. But we didnt forget and now theyre in kinda trouble

[@NessaTheBat1]

Stolas is cute but yeah he is really shitty towards Blitzo. After all that he expects Blitzo to think Stolas could never love him. I love Vivzie's work but this is just bad writing. It would've been fine if he was a rich a**hole and turns into a decent guy. But let this happen on screen and naturally! And don't put important conversations in a few frames of text messages! I think they skipped a few episodes.

[@jiado6893]

Until the rest of the season is over, I’m not prepared to say this is bad writing. I think Stoll is just trapped in his own head, made worse by Blitzø not being a great communicator. I want Stolas to get called out on his hypocrisy and casual racism. But Apology Tour was still necessary to address Blitzø’s douchebaggery to pretty much everyone. Even if yes, I would have liked more examination of their imbalanced power dynamic. Also, I love your avatar! Is that from a Nightmare Night episode?

[@thecollector4574]

Bad writing 🚫equal character flaw

[@inkytheartist]

he's classist right in that episode, right after he says "when have i ever," he goes "you sound just like that vile striker friend of yours," calling striker blitzo's "friend" just because they're both imps

[@jaredgarcia8638]

Why Viv wants us to have these two together when Stolas has shown time and again he's a hypocrite and uses people for sexual gratification, rather than genuine love, is beyond me. Still he's somewhat captivating to both love and hate simultaneously.

[@megankissinger8269]

He does love Blitz. It's not just about sex and it hasn't been for a long time. He's not aware of what he's doing. People who understand the show have done analysis on his sheltered upbringing, lack of social skills and lack of self awareness. Blitz needed his awakening first.

[@jaredgarcia8638]

@megankissinger8269 show, don't tell hasn't been vivziepop's strong suits. And supplementary material isn't going to cut it. So I'm hoping you're right, and we do see this

[@megankissinger8269]

@@jaredgarcia8638 Show don't tell works if you're in the age group the show works for. They already started his awakening in the song - how did so many people miss that? It makes zero sense plot wise to have addressed his issues before the MC's - especially when the MC has a lot of apologies to work on. There are many obvious signs that he loves Blitz and that he lacks self awareness - he's not a bad guy. It's. It's not the writers' fault that a lot of fans don't understand what's going on after how many episodes. It's not that hard to figure out.

[@jaredgarcia8638]

@@megankissinger8269 fair enough.

[@itdoesntgetbetter1408]

Correct me if I’m wrong but is Stolas not technically sexually exploiting blitzø. This goes far beyond a “toxic relationship”. Stolas is kind of evil and now the audience is supposed to feel bad for someone cuz the person he was sexually abusing didn’t fall in love with him? That seems like the worst writing of all time.

[@gwit4051]

Blitz did fall in love with him though, or at least wants his continued companionship, he just has issues communicating it. Stolas is not without blame, he did abuse a power dynamic, but the rift in their relationship is literally about that so it's not like the writing is ignoring it.

[@lililudanyi6029]

yeah, and if Blitz actually did catch feelings, wouldn't that be problematic also? He fell in love with a guy who exploited him for sex, i mean dude should get checked out.

[@KitKatbar168]

Finnally someone says this😭 Stolas is a massive expoltiter and it’s made to seem like the person being exploited should like them back ?!

[@xxx-qw6kq]

It's literally sexual coercion, since Stolas is holding Blitzo's job hostage. His ability to make a living is literally dependant on whether or not he has sex with Stolas. Besides, throught season 1 he showed serious discomfort when Stolas was talking dirty to him or acting sexual, but it was played for laughs for some reason.

[@KitKatbar168]

@@xxx-qw6kq it’s like the saying the borrower will always be a slave to the lender 😭

[@user-cv8sl4un3h]

-be stolas -be the reason blitz almost dies (murder family) -makes blitz visibly uncomfortable in (murder family) -pmakes him and Octavia uncomfortable with his comments on call (LooLoo land) - make sexual comments in broad daylight non consensual (looloo land) - belittles him and doesn't call him by his preferred name ( i forgot episode name but in Ep5) - belittles him and his employees in Episode 6 calls thim "little ones" -in episode 7 "Asmodeus introduction" he gets called out for his behavior sleeping eith the lower class and when blitz is being harrased he hides -same episode blitz calls stolas out for blitz feeling like hes being used (his tone of voice) -automaticly assumes blitz is there to "Ravish" Him when hes clearly there with non good intentions (Stoas is a Classist pretentious selfish asshole especially in season just like everyone his ranking and species but Octavia) There needs to be a few episodes harassing stolas not just Blitz Yes Blitz did do some pretty f*****-up stuff but comes nothing compared to what stolas done (also almost every interaction look blitz is uncomfortable with his tone of voice And/or looks Stolas is NOT innocent hes more responsible for this then blitz hes just calling blitz out for his behavior

[@god_of_croissants]

Dang, you poured your soul into that 😭 But you're right

[@sillyjester855]

ngl I feel bad for Via... I mean like she's still a minor for fucks sake stolas

[@t-b073]

I counted... And my eyes rolled to the back of my head at least 18 times watching Stolas belittling Blitz

[@CharlieTheMad256]

The clown nose at the end took me out 😂😂😂

[@M0nkB3-l1p]

IM SO HAPPY OTHERS REALIZE HES A HYPOCRITE

[@god_of_croissants]

RIGHT??

[@dweeb892]

3:42 Is genuinely the most honest and clear Blitz has ever been about his relationship with Stolas and how he feels about it... And Stolas just chooses to ignore it?? Has Stolas never realized what he's done to him?? He was told EXACTLY how Blitz is being described as this relationship as being, and it being nothing more because Stolas makes it clear what *he* wants and not what Blitz wants or needs. Both of them need to work on themselves, Stolas a lot more than he thinks he does...

[@Ludi_Chris]

This is what we get, when Viv changes her mind. And they don’t have the time to fully flush out the plot.

[@gurozawa]

ya'll need to let them cook, we have like 2 and a half seasons to end this, you all act like this is the end of the series. also helluva boss has like 3 writers.

[@Mousewith]

The plot is already planned out beforehand. This isn’t Viv changing her mind this is part of the story :/

[@spacegodxx]

SpinelHorse is doing this on purpose. If you look at the description on Apology Tour and Viv’s tweets and likes, you can see they are acknowledging Stolas dismissive behavior and lack of countability If you watch the trailer, Octavia calls him out on his bull. THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE INTENTIONAL

[@falconeshield]

​@@spacegodxxHere's hoping we're not getting Voltron Season 7'd and we don't know yet

[@ItzMuffinzz]

@@spacegodxxGod I hope so

[@theresivy]

yknow theyre never gonna write stolas as the one being in the wrong cus hes the hellaverse’s equivalent of vivziepop’s self-insert

[@2l84me8]

When you’re out of ideas for your show, just retcon your characters, I guess and expect nobody to question it.

[@megankissinger8269]

He was never retconned. He was set up like this from the first episode.

[@charlie8829]

@@megankissinger8269 No tf he wasn’t and I mean it literally. Viv asked Brandon Roger’s halfway thru season 1 if blitz and stolas would be cute together and he said yes. Not only that but bro went from an asshole in power to some tragic gay boy

[@megankissinger8269]

@@charlie8829 Are you serious about that? They already had the show nearly written BEFORE the episodes aired. The entire plot was mapped out ahead of time. Brandon himself said so. Just because he said they looked cute doesn't mean they changed it halfway through. The obvious problem is the show was made for adults, and teenagers are watching it. That's the issue.

[@Lagohuera4958]

@@megankissinger8269 Viv intended that the first act of Stolas Is being a manipulative piece shit who doesn't care that His childhood friends Is in danger?!

[@IcestarZ]

I think it's so funny how after the last two most recent episodes almost everyone hates Stolas for the way he's acting when like not even a few episodes ago everyone was wanting to kiss his bird ass

[@mickeythedogo703]

FINALLY someone said something about this 😅 Ive been SCREAMING "WHO IS THIS GUY???" at the last two episodes and everyone goes on and on about "cHarAracTeR DEvelOpMent" i thought i was losing my mind

[@ghostfork6783]

no way are ppl trying to say they're equally to blame as if stolas wasn't the one who literally started off their relationship with sexual coercion, the lack of media literacy is insane

[@Birdyboys]

“Both sides are flawed” until Viv starts selling merch saying “KYS stolas” and art of Stolas being hanged, no I don’t think this show wants to view this as a both sides issue

[@G.D.G.]

THIS

[@AkahoshiRuna]

Now Stolas needs to make an apology

[@HolyRavioliGuacamoleMacaroni]

1:55 2:01 hypocrisy in the same scene

[@jiado6893]

Until the rest of the season is over, I’m not prepared to say this is bad writing. I think Stoll is just trapped in his own head, made worse by Blitzø not being a great communicator. I want Stolas to get called out on his hypocrisy and casual racism. But Apology Tour was still necessary to address Blitzø’s douchebaggery to pretty much everyone. Even if yes, I would have liked more examination of their imbalanced power dynamic. Also, thanks for reminding us that the dude actually HAS said sorry before!

[@magicdolphin3090]

Im repeating what I have said again, no. It is bad writing. Media literacy is hard, but stay with me here. There is a difference between a character believing something and the show believing it. The show SHOWS us they are both flawed, yet TELLS us that Blitz is in the wrong. Nothing else. There is not one instance where the idea that Stolas is innocent is even challenged in either of the recent episodes. When a villain does something bad, it is usually followed up with someone, usually a hero, standing up and challenging their belief. This show does not even acknowledge Stolas being in the wrong. It completely portrays him as being innocent and sad, and most damming, above criticism. To summarize, Stolas is allowed to believe he is in the right, but the show is portraying this message as correct aswell. That is the issue. There is no *self awareness* to his bad behavior. Not even a silent frame or two where Stolas looks remorseful for his actions. There is no balance as of now, and everyone who keeps saying "its clear they are going to fix it, just wait" is missing the point of most criticisms of this episode. The problem is not Stolas being toxic, the problem is the show not showing him as toxic, instead as the victim. Very important to distinguish between the two, media literacy guys, google it please 🙏

[@nicolpineda8632]

​@@magicdolphin3090i feel you my guy. This people don't know the diference about PLOT AND NARRATIVE. an example is the book lolita. The plot is about an a pretador abusing a little girl, sounds bad right? It is, no thought. But The narrative favors the predator, because we are reading his point of view. People who read the book knowing this, still feel sympathy for the monster who abused a minor. In this show, we king of seen this characters from a third person, a Third person who clearly show favoritism for stolas and content for blitzo. View on as a víctim of the circunstances and the other as a guy o can get his shit together.

[@Its_Kara583]

I love Stolas (as a character) and all but not gonna lie you have a point, both of them need to work out a whole a lot of sh!t….

[@Shortie_hehehhe]

True

[@lerojj4334]

fr finally someone understands that stolas are just a hypocrite

[@matthewbuckley7757]

Hopefully in future episodes they can make stolas not be unlikable

[@caterina2290]

He probably just lacks self awareness. He doesn’t open up to anyone

[@carimel7654]

All that and he still had the audacity to make a song dissing him smh

[@lauraportillo7575]

I think most of the fandom is impatient and want immediate results rather than trusting the slow train wreck. I think it's interesting that the show tells us a lot about Blitz's flaws but mostly shows us Stolas'. 😂 I also think people who saw the pilot first are at a disadvantage because it's shaped the way you percieve the trajectory of the show. The long waits between episodes and seasons didn't help either because you then just started coming up with headcanons that you have a hard time letting go. I came in before Full Moon came out and didn't care to watch the pilot. My perception of the show is very different.

[@bean_man_]

i really like that thw starting part of the episode inly exists to give stolas a reason to be mad at blitz because he literally did nothing wrong

[@zmihlluvss7231]

3:55-4:04 Thank you for including this scene cause a lot of people really think blitz made the deal sexual but this was before the scene with him flirting with stolas, I agree that stolas is not innocent and is equally guilty cause I think a lot of people blame blitz cause we are around him more and see his actions more and has more than stolas. Here's a list of stolas have done: Calling blitz degrading names with "little" and "imp", Made the deal sexual first, put a relationship over his own daughter, not letting blitz have time to think about his emotions about what he just said, being a hypocrite, made a deal on infidelity(I know he and Stella didn't love each other but it is still infidelity) and thinking it was going to be romantic(cause anything on infidelity is gonna turn toxic) miscommunication, Looking down on imps and blitz, thinking striker and blitz are friends cause they are imps, Calling blitz " blitzy", Making blitz uncomfortable, objectifying blitz. Not to mention everything in season 1 all he talked about was sex and then He's mad that it was all sex DUDE YOU MADE IT ONLY SEX. I know his trauma and lacks self awareness but I REALLY NEED TO THE NEXT EPISODE TO SHOW THAT STOLAS REALIZE HIS ACTIONS. Now before anyone say "He got checked at ozzies and his daughter in season 1", He only learned to call blitz by his name and make not everything about sex and THE SAME THING HAPPENS IN SEASON 2 EPISODE 2 LIKE THAT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. I'm done with this rant now 😅 my bad. I love him and stolas but jeez this happens to every main couple

[@robweasley59]

At this point, even if they did acknowledge this, the writers already botched shit with their execution.

[@EscapeReality123]

Both Blitzø and Stolas made A LOT of mistakes. As much as I love this show, I really hate how it always shows only Blitzø in the bad light. I *really* hope they will expose Stolas mistakes and hypocrisy as well.

[@arkwensome6264]

This video is hilarious 😂 funny that Verosica think of Stolas good, just because he's an ex of Blitz. But would she support him, if she will know who exactly Stolas aaaaaaaare...

[@apilho2495]

For the stolas deffenders: the problem is not that he is a hypocrite, if that was a intentional flaw of him that it's use on the story it would ok, the problem is that the show it self doesn't use that in the story, they give consequences and call blitzø out for his mistakes(some of them that he didn't even do our something he was right for doing it) but ignores our beraly focus on the bad side of stolas. Even the merch is on his side Stola's merch advertising apology tour: sad and cool stuff Blitzø's merch advertising apology tour: A PIN OF A TOY BLITZØ BEING HANG Apology tour ended with blitzø feeling like shit and the odience feeling shame for his mistakes and hope he gets better, stolas ended with a new twink guy to date in a party and the show by it self say that we should feel good for him

[@apilho2495]

I do hope the octavia ep gives some consequences for stolas being a bad dad but it would not surprise me if it ends just like the other two octavia eps "you fucked up dad but you are cool" wow how nice.

[@nicolpineda8632]

Blitz gets call out about thing he didn't do to. Like the barbie episode, when the Human teen dies, barbie screams at him a blames him...why? How was he responsable for that? Not even millie can take the responsibility about that and she gets priced be Moxxie?

[@apilho2495]

@@nicolpineda8632 in the case that im talking about is the "always about sex" line, we see that stolas is the one that only looked for sex im their "relationship" everytime stolas flits with blitzø he doesn't enjoy it our doesn't seen to care, in the hearvest moon ep they litteraly are talking after doing the thing and blitzø looks bored like he is only doing it becouse it's part of the deal, but in the full moon ep blitzø now is the horny freak that is exited to just bang stolas and the show blames blitzø for it. They change his character just to make stolas look like the cute uwu boy that is being abused. The hole point of ossyes was that blitzø realised how stolas doesn't treat him right so he finaly snaps and tells stolas off and stolas lears how the way he acts with blitzø is bad and he needs to fix that if he truly loves him

[@apilho2495]

But stolas doesn't grow, he can't grow by facing his bad side and having consequences for his bad actions becouse the writers want him to be the inocent one now, so let's brain wash the audiance and make they think the real bad one is just blitz and stolas made basicaly nothing wrong, isn't it so fun to see stolas get's all the praze and ends up happy making out with a sexy dude after calling blitzø out?? And blitzø goes on mental breakdown over the bad things he did even if some of them he didn't even do becouse that's what he deserves i think...great writing guys :D

[@nicolpineda8632]

@apilho2495 someone coment to me the usual "there both flawed" "he is not aware" "blitz is..." "This is not bad writing" only to end it with "did one of you read viv Twitter?" So now I have to do outside research in oder to know about important thinks the writter didn't put in the show. Then I realized something shocking. I know that sinner repawn after been killed in hell, only angelic weapons can kill them permanently. And this information was never brought up in both hazbin hotel or helluva boss! Such an important date for the plot of hazbin hotel. Viv give this information on Twitter!! Back in 2019 or something! And they dere to say this woman is "coocking" something narrative brilliant? Holly hell!

[@Rodrickheffey23405]

3:15 dude just called him his “plaything” 😭, I just noticed that.

[@RadiantPercival]

When I first watched through season 1 (during the time between the end of S1 and beginning of S2), I was convinced they were intentionally trying to go somewhere with Striker talking about Stolas treating Blitz like a plaything and Stolas then using that exact word in the very next episode to describe Blitz. ... And then the episode after that was all about Stolas being a sadboy who just wants Blitz to love him. And then S2 has been. What it is. I'm tired, y'all.

[@mizv4043]

this is something im actually hoping gets pointed out to stolas by either his imp servant or octavia or even striker

[@vanessaheart3529]

Favorite video online rn thank you so much

[@queenvictoria4237]

This is why I hate the stoliz ship. THEY were never good together

[@Agent_ghost75]

Stolas had romantic intentions and only used sex as a means of getting closer to Blitz in order to keep him around knowing sex and the book is the only thing keeping him around and he didn’t do it out of malice but out of desperation of fulfilling something that he was starved of for years and at the moment that he said that hypocritical statement he was deeply offended and wounded by Blitz perceptive of him so he wasn’t able to see what he did wrong and causing him to act defensively and I think when Octavia calls him out on his bs then he will begin to see that’s he’s also the problem

[@KitKatbar168]

I don’t think that was made apparent there’s no implication that was to get closer to him 😭

[@Agent_ghost75]

@@KitKatbar168 Stolas literally said he try to get closer to him in the new episode 😭

[@KitKatbar168]

@@Agent_ghost75 read the texts and see if he really tried to make an effort

[@scarletspider5]

The contract was literally just them having sex what the hell is this man talking about when he says “your first instinct is always about sex”

[@yarg4036]

stolas likes to pretend that hes such a progressive royal who doesnt look down on people but he DOES. he DOES and he doesnt even realize that hes doing it and its so annoying He fetishizes and looks down on blitz at every point literally calling him "My impish little plaything" IN WHAT WORLD IS THAT NOT CONDESCENDING

[@gillianday4804]

so he does look down on him.

[@HarleeDoesThings]

I don’t think it’s bad writing, I just think Stolas isn’t a great character. He is really unaware of him actions and that’s why I’ve never shipped Stolitz 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@magicdolphin3090]

Im repeating what I have said again, no. It is bad writing. Media literacy is hard, but stay with me here. There is a difference between a character believing something and the show believing it. The show SHOWS us they are both flawed, yet TELLS us that Blitz is in the wrong. Nothing else. There is not one instance where the idea that Stolas is innocent is even challenged in either of the recent episodes. When a villain does something bad, it is usually followed up with someone, usually a hero, standing up and challenging their belief. This show does not even acknowledge Stolas being in the wrong. It completely portrays him as being innocent and sad, and most damming, above criticism. To summarize, Stolas is allowed to believe he is in the right, but the show is portraying this message as correct aswell. That is the issue. There is no *self awareness* to his bad behavior. Not even a silent frame or two where Stolas looks remorseful for his actions. There is no balance as of now, and everyone who keeps saying "its clear they are going to fix it, just wait" is missing the point of most criticisms of this episode. The problem is not Stolas being toxic, the problem is the show not showing him as toxic, instead as the victim. Very important to distinguish between the two, media literacy guys, google it please 🙏

[@Domino971]

He acted like that in the first episode because he was ment to be a villain am i right??

[@jesterennard6797]

LOOK LOOK- The writers are getting it to a point where he becomes self aware/ has a self awareness arc, it may seem like bad writing now, but Viv said that he lacks self awareness-

[@abroburinha]

2:48 he used him to burn a cigarette come onnn how can you say you didnt look down on himm😭😭😭

[@copieopie5335]

Stolas is a POS why do we waste so much time on him when he isn’t even developing as a character..? It’s the same shit over and over I don’t care I came here to see them WORK yet I can’t remember the last time this season they did anything

[@alyssabullock6421]

Some people dont realize that the writers did this on purpose, he's literally SUPPOSED to lack self awareness. That's his major flaw in this situation, he doesn't realize his own faults. Blitz at least knows what he's done wrong, but he has too much pride and anger to be vulnerable and honest with people

[@NotCinnaRock]

i love this video so much

[@twistedreality997]

really hope they bring this up, would be great to have Blitz talk back and call him out, think that could be good for him after always being the bad one and having to apologize, they seem to be babying Stolas wAy too much tho so i'm not too sure, but i hope this is the actual point and not just another case of sloppy writing

[@Justastrangerontheinternet2122]

Blitzø genuinely has a fucking excuse to say all that, wether it’s shitty or not which it is, because how can he believe that the high leveled person who clearly used to only want to fuck with him dares to throw sappy love shit at him and say things like “I’ve never spoken that way? Why do you have that impression of me?” Well because obviously you’ve done stuff for him to assume stuff. Not only that but his nicknames? This is just terrible rushed writing for drama. Making Blitzø the full on bad guy when Stolas hasn’t even apologized himself for (honestly idek anymore but this is messed up and miscommunication sucks ass) (The hypocrisy is real. S2 is just a play at drama.) (Maybe Blizø gets development and leaves Stolas behind to deal with his own hypocrisy?)

[@ckat13]

For those who watched The Owl House, remember how we could literally *see* the relationship of Lumity develop over time? I can tell you the scene that's unanimously believed to be Luz's and Amity's 'feels catching' moments. Why can't I think of that for Stolitz?

[@maokreatywne4059]

while I don't think that Vivziepop is a great writer, I can't say that Blitz's relationship with Stolas is badly written. It makes sense that Stolas is a hypocrite. He was put in an arranged marriage and isolated, of course he'd think of himself as the largest victim in the world in every situation. He would want a grand, romantic partnership, even if it's not realistic - nothing Stolas fantasizes about is, in fact. And he's validated by the fact that Blitz hurt people in the past, so they assume he's blameless as well... but he's not. He's a racist, rich asshole, he just can't see it.

[@leokenevil5113]

I've seen some people claim that Viv's botching up the writing, but it's clear as day that Stolas is so far in his head that he thinks he's done no wrong, not even realizing the kind of interactions he had with Blitz or even his daughter. If anything, this is well within acceptable boundaries for his character, and he'll probably get an episode or two in the future where finally gets the hint and tries some way to mend the bridge.

[@magicdolphin3090]

Im repeating what I have said again, no. It is bad writing. Media literacy is hard, but stay with me here. There is a difference between a character believing something and the show believing it. The show SHOWS us they are both flawed, yet TELLS us that Blitz is in the wrong. Nothing else. There is not one instance where the idea that Stolas is innocent is even challenged in either of the recent episodes. When a villain does something bad, it is usually followed up with someone, usually a hero, standing up and challenging their belief. This show does not even acknowledge Stolas being in the wrong. It completely portrays him as being innocent and sad, and most damming, above criticism. To summarize, Stolas is allowed to believe he is in the right, but the show is portraying this message as correct aswell. That is the issue. There is no *self awareness* to his bad behavior. Not even a silent frame or two where Stolas looks remorseful for his actions. There is no balance as of now, and everyone who keeps saying "its clear they are going to fix it, just wait" is missing the point of most criticisms of this episode. The problem is not Stolas being toxic, the problem is the show not showing him as toxic, instead as the victim. Very important to distinguish between the two, media literacy guys, google it please 🙏

[@leokenevil5113]

@@magicdolphin3090 Please keep up, the point of my comment was to point out that he's deluded himself into thinking that he's done no wrong. There's a scene in the episode where he's looking back and wonders if there's something he did wrong in the middle of the song, only to be told by Verosica and Tex that no, he's all good, and the rest goes from there. It's clear as fucking day he's deluding himself into thinking that he's the good boi here, and sure the show might portray it that way, but anyone with an actual brain can see that he's being an ass.

[@leokenevil5113]

​@@magicdolphin3090 It's clear as fucking day that Stolas is deluding himself into thinking that he did no wrong, and this drawn out comment only serves to tell me you didn't even read the first fucking line of my comment, so let me spell it out. He's DELUDING himself into thinking he's the sole victim, but anyone with an actual brain can see that's not the case. We know the season's not over and we still have yet to see Stolas do something pretty meaningful other then just be sad and depressed. Who knows, maybe something will happen later that completely undercuts what you said here.

[@nicolpineda8632]

​@@leokenevil5113he is talking abut a NARRATIVE PROBLEM and you as answer bring out the PLOT.

[@leokenevil5113]

@@nicolpineda8632Care to know why I'm not so worried about the narrative right now? Because Viv herself confirmed that he's deluding himself, which tells me we're going to get an episode where Stolas's bullshit is eventually going to be called into question, and that thr focus is currently on Blitz because of-fucking-course, he's the main character of the whole show.

[@wuhoh5274]

I'm pretty sure it's intentional (god I hope so). I thought the point was that both Blitzo and Stolis were horrible partners

[@krismm1659]

See it blows my mind that people can see this shit and still believe stolas has done no wrong. Blitz is overtly an a-hole so it’s right in your face and obvious, while Stolas is more covert in his behaviour so people never bother to actually pay attention to the details.

[@rainnaldo]

I really hope there is going to be a plot twist with a explanation for Stolas sudden personality change... but maybe that's asking too much

[@mist0804]

It's not bad writing, it's a major character flaw

[@magicdolphin3090]

Im repeating what I have said again, no. It is bad writing. Media literacy is hard, but stay with me here. There is a difference between a character believing something and the show believing it. The show SHOWS us they are both flawed, yet TELLS us that Blitz is in the wrong. Nothing else. There is not one instance where the idea that Stolas is innocent is even challenged in either of the recent episodes. When a villain does something bad, it is usually followed up with someone, usually a hero, standing up and challenging their belief. This show does not even acknowledge Stolas being in the wrong. It completely portrays him as being innocent and sad, and most damming, above criticism. To summarize, Stolas is allowed to believe he is in the right, but the show is portraying this message as correct aswell. That is the issue. There is no *self awareness* to his bad behavior. Not even a silent frame or two where Stolas looks remorseful for his actions. There is no balance as of now, and everyone who keeps saying "its clear they are going to fix it, just wait" is missing the point of most criticisms of this episode. The problem is not Stolas being toxic, the problem is the show not showing him as toxic, instead as the victim. Very important to distinguish between the two, media literacy guys, google it please 🙏

[@mist0804]

@@magicdolphin3090 Stolas questions it himself in All 2 U but Verosika and Tex cut those thoughts out by saying it's all Blitz's fault. Viv has also acknowledged on multiple occasions that Stolas is not self-aware of his actions and how they come off. You're probably gonna dismiss this as just another "They'll do it eventually" argument, but a show focusing on the flaws of only one character in an episode instead of multiple is not bad writing. I do think Apology Tour could've been a little less one-sided though.

[@nerdyweeb1184]

I feel like too many people are being overly pissed at Stolas though. His situation has kind of already been explained. Vivzie confirmed that Stolas is bad at self reflection and even just communicating in general because of how he grew up. So it’s most likely Stolas is so lost in his feelings that he doesn’t remember how he treated Blitz in the past. I’m sure when Octavia comes up again Stolas will realize his mistake and too give Blitz his apology. The problem is people aren’t being patient. This is supposed to be Blitz’s redemption arc, not Stolas’s. His will be next. So just have patience. And also remember Stolas AND blitz are equally to blame.

[@magicdolphin3090]

Im repeating what I have said again, no. It is bad writing. Media literacy is hard, but stay with me here. There is a difference between a character believing something and the show believing it. The show SHOWS us they are both flawed, yet TELLS us that Blitz is in the wrong. Nothing else. There is not one instance where the idea that Stolas is innocent is even challenged in either of the recent episodes. When a villain does something bad, it is usually followed up with someone, usually a hero, standing up and challenging their belief. This show does not even acknowledge Stolas being in the wrong. It completely portrays him as being innocent and sad, and most damming, above criticism. To summarize, Stolas is allowed to believe he is in the right, but the show is portraying this message as correct aswell. That is the issue. There is no *self awareness* to his bad behavior. Not even a silent frame or two where Stolas looks remorseful for his actions. There is no balance as of now, and everyone who keeps saying "its clear they are going to fix it, just wait" is missing the point of most criticisms of this episode. The problem is not Stolas being toxic, the problem is the show not showing him as toxic, instead as the victim. Very important to distinguish between the two, media literacy guys, google it please 🙏 Also no one is being mean to Stolas. I have seen overwhelming defense for him (comments like yours) everywhere. you found the one video critical of him and lol, wow, there are more critical comments? i have seen so much support, that is why i am here, there was/is no balance right now. Comments defending stolas prove that the show IS doing all of what I stated above. the fact that the show is showing us he is right is leading others to also feel this way, either that or this owl character is actually possessing yall, cause i swear he could actually kill 40 million orphans and yall would still be like "aww, but hes my baby tho 😢" lol

[@nerdyweeb1184]

@@magicdolphin3090 nah I’ve seen much hate for him. Also you seem way too pressed. I still believe there is a chance that Stolas will have self awareness in future episodes. I still believe we have to be patient with the process. I mean, all the episodes have already been planned out. So we might as well see where they go with it. You can’t just assume that they aren’t gonna call Stolas out. There is still that Octavia line in the trailer that hasn’t happened yet so we will see

[@sillyyboy]

RAAAH FINALLY PEOPLE ARE REALISING STOLAS IS ALSO A VILLAIN, ALL MY HOMIES HATE STOLAS

[@rosylagoon3600]

“My little…. *iMp~”*

[@fridadowney561]

Finally someone calls this out