Stolen Valor: The Tragic Tale of John Chapman and the SEALs' Betrayal with Matt Cubbler

[@ensporium8857]

RIP John Chapman 🇺🇲🦅

[@gochunsa]

The real tragedy in all of this is Admiral Szymanski. If u read Peter Blaber’s (Former Army Special Mission Unit Commander) book The Mission, The Men, and Me he talks about the meticulously preparation that the Army Special Mission Teams took to get into position on those mountain tops of the Shahi-Kot valley. They took the time to plan the mission right days prior and were infil’d successfully w/o compromise and were effective killing a number of Taliban w/ their AF JTACs. Blaber then writes w/ excruciating detail of how he was ordered to put SEAL AFO teams into place and he knew they didn’t take the time to infil in as his Army Special Mission Teams and as was expected they were compromised by flying a Chinook right on top of a Taliban fighting position. The SEALs were basically crow-barred into this Op by Szymanski and as a result 7 people died that day (The Ranger QRF got shot too hell also flying right on top of a enemy fighting position). Then to learn of the lowball cover up to deny Chapman his Medal of Honor takes this to an all time low. Szymanski should be called out on this parochial Navy BS. This is not SEAL bashing as they are great Americans doing the hard job of protecting our way of life. Truth is truth. I put my name on this. Mike Clark Master Sergeant (Retired) US Army Special Forces

[@briangregory6303]

I wrote a comment above that you may find interesting as to how John's final resting place has been ignored.

[@thelogicalcaveman9139]

I love that book and have read it and roberts Ridge and not a good day to day. They paint a very good picture of that mission failure and I firmly believe that it was a complete accident that they dip to a low ridge on him. They were under massive fire and had already lost one team mate and two birds. People shit on it but have no clue about the full battle and everything that happened from start to finish.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

sounds almost like red wings what seals did to the marines, SOAR would only fly if it was for jsoc missions and high jacked the marines mission who been working that area out of blessing already. well we all have our opinions on how that went and hope someday the truth is said and a coward isnt portrayed as a hero anymore

[@Ryan-kc5pl]

Is the SEAL culture just awful? Just asking as a civilian with tons of friends on Army side (11b and up).

[@Ryan-kc5pl]

To add. Just feels like they lack maturity and just general skills that Army and Marine Special Operations have

[@Nutmeg142]

RIP MSgt Chapman. Your Air Force family hasn’t forgotten you and loves you. I just got to the 321st when it happened and I remember the team guys, your friends, talking about you. You are safe now. MSgt Megan Britt USAF Retired 2000-2020

[@charliedelta988]

321 here too Gold Team 94-96 HooYa

[@dwainsellers6453]

My son is a CCT,JTAC and yes , John Chapman 's name is spoken often and held in the highest regard among members of this fraternity.

[@stump713]

No matter how courageous or badass you have been in battle, those actions denying a true hero the recognition that they deserve is nothing short of cowardice. Integrity, morales, honesty and humility need to far outweigh egos in a warriors mind. Thank you guys for bringing this real breakdown to light.✝️🇺🇸

[@specag31]

"Paybacks are a bytch and her stripper name is Karma."

[@timumbra2476]

@@specag31lil Wayne ?

[@specag31]

@@timumbra2476 The character "'Rone," in the movie "13 Hours."

[@timumbra2476]

@@specag31 ahhhhhh okie

[@philipdru9290]

Chapman was a friggin’ stud, hero. I am really starting to enjoy this Green Beret’s material. It’s smart, well thought out and insightful.

[@stillsober19]

Just started reading Alone at Dawn. John was truly a remarkable person and warrior. Shame on the Navy for not owning up to their fuck up and trying to tarnish John’s sacrifice.

[@vitigaymer1053]

"He gave his life for the SEALs.....and in return, they SHIT on his grave and SHIT on his memory!" - former 24th STS Colleague of Chapman on the Navy

[@specag31]

Only thing that smells worse than SEAL shit is Hippo shit.

[@andrewj9831]

By going off on his own? The video clearly shows 5 out of the 6 stuck together....

[@kerrykroger7323]

@@andrewj9831 He located, closed with and eliminated the enemy... he did his job... you can't sit still in the killing zone they were in and wait... for??? I clearly see you have no clue...

[@kerrykroger7323]

@@andrewj9831 I WILL however say this... Slab would not have left if he did not BELIEVE that John and Neil were dead, in Slab's AAR he told what John Did, his words on what John did, he said he checked John's body before they left the mountain... fog of war or whatever you want to call it, the body found in the location he said John was was Neil... in the dark and under fire it was a mistake... I can forgive THAT, Fog of war is a real thing they didn't leave him there deliberately... he had one man DEAD, one man Presumed dead, and two more wounded... he made a decision of that point to get the living off that rock... if he had known John was alive or had any reason to believe John was alive they would have all stayed until they were all dead... Slab just HAD to believe that John was dead...

[@davidhancock5932]

@@andrewj9831he took out the machines gunners trying to kill the 5 that stuck together

[@charliedelta988]

As an former PJ this pisses me off. Raises lots of questions that have to be asked and answered! RIP Chappy and Jason!

[@screamingeagle11b]

Met only one pj before, he helped me get on to a c130 after I got hurt in the stan

[@QBDad18]

This story as told here really does piss me off,.. I saw that video last year narrated and was so sad how it ended and they really try to bury this negativity to the public when people screw up and people die. Glad to hear the truth

[@tricmoto4476]

As a Marine I was never so impressed by an operator as a AF PJ, come to find out he is legendary in the PJ community. He was the goofiest looking guy I’ve ever seen looked just like a life sized Howdy Doody, red hair and all. But one impressive operator. It was the early 90s time frame

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

mind me asking yaw ever do yaws sere at camp mccall i swore was some cct guyys back in the day from pope afb

[@charliedelta988]

@@GATOR_MCLUSKY I believe McCall was the drop zone we used to do Halo school at back in the early '90s when it was still at Bragg. But I never did any sere at bragg.

[@rl4416]

that video of Chapman is crazy , dude was a freaking beast if i ever seen one. - i've never been so mad at a video

[@bradstapp7519]

Running uphill, at altitude in thigh deep snow while still killing the enemy earned his CMOH! I was at the AFSNCO Academy when the drone footage was released. It was awe inspiring! That dude was a bad ass who was waiting to get into the fight for years. RIP!

[@Dirk-my2zf]

Committing suicide doesn’t make someone “a beast.”

[@bradstapp7519]

He didn't commit suicide, he took he fight directly to the enemy, exactly what he trained for his whole life!

[@Dirk-my2zf]

@@bradstapp7519 no one in the entire DOD trains to go lone wolf in the middle of a gunfight. You obviously have never spent a day in combat arms. Everyone doing their own thing in combat = suicide.

[@Dirk-my2zf]

@@bradstapp7519 running into a hail of gunfire and doing your own thing in combat is suicide. If everyone did their own thing in a TIC there would be a lot more American KIA’s.

[@CobusStander-uv6ml]

I'm new and I'm from South Africa.....i just want to say that i love your input.....i fought in the Angolan war and I'm a veteran of the South African Bushwar......in South Africa we also got the same problem of Stolen Valor.....I always got the highest respect for your Spesial Forces and the way they conduct themselves but for a few years now i started to realise that that some off the so called war heroes who make money out of movies are not that good as they make out to be.....i can tell you one thing in our army we had a few war heroes but they never made movies about their experiences......we were proud and solid and we were proud off what we achieved......

[@mikeglynn5824]

I watched the feed the seal never followed Chapman to the bunker. He was initially behind him then turned around and went back behind a berm w the other seals. This was the most courageous thing I’ve ever seen. I’m a vet but will not play armchair QB cause I was not there so that’s that. I’m an AF vet similar community as Chapman but what he did would be an immediate MOH! The delay was due to naval special warfare holding up that award. No disrespect to the seals but the vid tells the story. RIP Sgt Chapman a true American hero!🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

slab goes on record saying chapman wouldnt listen to him causding him to get left by accident ,but in a near ambush all u can do is fight throught it

[@TnerB91]

I was at 1/75 from 2010-2015 , from the other rangers I spoke to who were in the know of what went down there it was just a complete shit show , in regards to the Seals , there a lot of good dudes in that organization theres some bad apples just like within any other organization but for the most part a lot of good guys there, I don’t blame the individuals usually, I mostly blame the Navy and their leadership, and this wouldn’t be the first time they pulled something like this , or putting their guys into a horrible situation they shouldn’t have been in, for this Op I’m giving those guys the benefit of the doubt that they honestly just got overwhelmed they didn’t know what to do , they didn’t know John’s status they probably thought he was KIA and they just left. But that should have been the narrative from the beginning and that would have been completely acceptable , cause this Op was just chaos by the looks and sound of it. I think the Navy just didn’t wanna look bad, which again not the first or last time

[@mikeglynn5824]

@@TnerB91 Rangers lead the way!! Good take on it!! I can’t judge wasn’t on the op. I’ve seen some BS over my yrs most will die with me. I hold the Rangers in the highest regard they meet the standards they set day in day out!!🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@jeffg3975]

Here’s what people need to understand. Had the ISR footage not been leaked, NSW would have never acknowledged Chapman’s actions, and would have lead you to believe they were the real hero’s that day. They would have inevitably turned the Takur Ghar quagmire into another heroic Hollywood production. The whole situation stinks and dishonors the good people at NSW. I hate to say it but only one man earned the MoH on Takur Ghar.

[@ytsm]

What does NSW mean? I'm a Brit, so go easy on me 👍 🇬🇧❤🇺🇸

[@jeffg3975]

@@ytsm (Naval Special Warfare) Command. Always happy to help a fellow Brit. 😉

[@ytsm]

Much obliged, squire! @@jeffg3975

[@K37-h1z]

We love you brits! Also pure facts about the cover up. 🇺🇸❤🇬🇧

[@MrJuaritos23]

I worked with Royal Marines in Iraq. Great guys, we exchanged MREs.

[@HaroldCornbreadCarter]

I never fully knew the story of John Chapman. We did an Honor workout as a team the other day, and it made me look deeper into his story. This is infuriating, motivating, and heartbreaking all at the same time.

[@robmac3999]

I saw this footage and it immediately made me scratch my head. I never saw any indication that JC was unconscious. That dude was fighting the entire time. Then I saw your video and your AAR and I was like “ yeah bro! That’s exactly what I was thinking!” They absolutely left him! How does his ACC buddy 3klm away hear his radio calls but the SEAL’s don’t. And then the SEAL’s try and block his CMH. I love the fact that you aren’t afraid to speak the truth bro.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

i posted the aar photos , seals prob on another freq its so fucking hard doing comms with them. and u know its gotta be loaded . i cant tell ya how wild it had to been up there takin damn howitzer rounds from the gunship and machine gun fire while being wounded alone and still dark

[@brianbrown4315]

Absolutely 💯 right

[@andrewj9831]

CMH for taking off on his team, and getting into trouble??

[@andrewj9831]

@@GATOR_MCLUSKY Ya...the SEALS were on another freq, as it was never passed along they got changed. Who was in charge of comms/air support doing this mission???

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

@@andrewj9831 ​ surely shoulda been looked at , every company has a comms nco hes gonna get the fill from battalion and on up, when u start mixing elements special forces and conventional they dont like sharing cypto dont want people listening or stepping on the net . the cct is usally working with the awcc piling up planes they have do alot of calculations drop precision ordinance. Comms used be a pain cuz no o ne wanted to share and you had to relay 2-3 elements then it had to be relayed back again

[@rascalmatt6713]

I'm a former Ranger. I remember watching the Slabinski interview and i can't remember if he said he checked him or he just saw the laser on his rifle stop moving with the breathing motion of his chest. It's either in the book Roberts Ridge or the TV interview.. where it was said that because the laser stopped moving.. he assumed that Chapman wasn't breathing anymore. I say you still drag him with you... but i wasn't there. I heard from guys who were there that there was so little oxygen up there that doing anything up there was exhausting, not to mention wading through the snow. IMHO the NAVY awarding this Slabinski guy the MOH is just shameful.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

I don't know if it's true, but what I heard was Chapman charging the bunker on his own was not part of the plan. He basically went rogue which caused Slabinski to follow him to try to get him back to the group but he just kept charging. Apparently in the SEALs eyes the whole mission went to shit because of him doing that, so they didn't want to give him any credit, and I guess it's possible they intentionally left him because of how pissed they were. I don't know if that's true, I don't even remember where I heard it, but it could put it in a different light rather than the SEALs just being straight up horrible.

[@rascalmatt6713]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 When you're in an ambush, you charge the closest firing position/s. It just makes you wonder how often those guys trained together in 2002 or if he was simply, "attached" to them. In all honesty though... what made the mission go to shit was the "SHITTY INTEL" that said there were "no enemy" on Takur Ghar. The next shitty thing was Roberts falling out... and that's why Rangers have SOP's relating to staying strapped in by our belts until it's time to disembark the bird. Rangers always bad mouthed the SEALS for not being attached to the bird during that op... as if they were cowboys thinking they were "too cool" for "that". So bad intel... Roberts falling out... EVERYONE LEAVING HIM... then, if you're really going back to get him... do you take action and charge the first and closest bunker ? or huddle up and "think about things"? I think Chapman was right to charge the bunker because it was the closest position they were taking fire from and there was no cover really. Especially if you think of it in terms of trying to fight as quickly as possible and get Roberts. Instead of bitching.. .the SEALS should have fucking covered his ass with fire support. I wasn't there though.... but at that time... so close to 9/11... the vast majority of people wanted to FIGHT and get PAY BACK.

[@antonios.1894]

I am legit curious. Has there ever been a case where an MOH has been rescinded?

[@userer4579]

@@antonios.1894 Medals of Honor have been revoked or rescinded in the past for various reasons. Slabinski is a good candidate to do it again.

[@antonios.1894]

@@userer4579 that’s crazy. I couldn’t even imagine the embarrassment for all parties involved for that

[@michaelsudsysutherland5353]

As a young Airman, I deployed to Camp Doha Kuwait back in April 2002 (supporting Operation Southern Watch and Intrinsic Action). One of the things we did when we weren't working on the bombing ranges (Udari, just about every day, and more than few nights...) was take the guys flying into Ali-Al Salem AB back to Cp. Doha, or the Kuwait City airport. What an honor to have met these men, heard their stories, and yeah just carried their bags for them. None of the details here really shock me, some just verify information I'd heard many years ago, or just put other pieces into place. I have told people on numerous occasions that SEALS are overrated, and hard to work with based on some of my experiences working with them and others in SOF. We'd be working Udari Range and a SEAL team would be shooting, we asked if they wanted to control the A-10's or F-16's we had on station, and they'd say "Nope, we got our people who do that, we don't need that training" or other some such. Run into them outside their compound on the camps, and they treat you like shit; officers refusing to return salutes (on secure Army FOBS where we were able to salute), etc. Not so much with Green Berets who'd love a crack at controlling that CAS and refining their ECAS procedures, and then turn around and train you in CQB or whatever weapons they had on hand to keep up with their teaching and passing on skills; their officers would either not wear rank (if they didn't want the salute) or they'd return the salutes (after all, it was a secure Army FOB). I never expected SOF guys to be any different from the soldiers and airmen I interacted with on a daily basis (i.e. we ain't Boy Scouts behavior wise), but there far more professionalism and fraternal respect from Green Berets towards everybody else in the military regardless of branch than I ever saw from the SEALS (and Marines, are well, just Marines).

[@charliedelta988]

I may have seen you out there, I was at Al jaber in the summer of 2002.

[@seanfinnerty9382]

The entire SEAL community should not be tarnished, that being said, this particular “team” of SEALs ran away while Chapman charged the bunker. The drone footage is very clear.

[@ce6654]

Looking over the history of cover-ups, I think most of it falls SQUARELY in the lap of Szymanski.

[@PunkN_JTM]

Actually it should be... Because the top of the chain clearly failed its mssions also and totally failed at accounting, a small group is easier to be accountable for... Vs whole regiment's, and the rest just ignored it .

[@halfdome4158]

I have a question. The drone/people were watching remotely. Why couldnt a drone have been sent to drop a bomb, (whatever they drop) on the bunkers to help the men?

[@ce6654]

@halfdome4158 that timeframe was the drone program in early infancy, and most assets were in Iraq or under other use. Even the QRF gunships were pulled because other troops were in a TIC.

[@halfdome4158]

@@ce6654 They did drop a missile. Not enough and poorly coordinated. Shocking.

[@paulstrathern4309]

Ohhhh boy. THIS is the lightning rod story right here. I always found it interesting how none of the Seals involved with Robert's Ridge ever wrote a book about it. And if this guy's claim that Chapman was conscious the whole time is true, it changes everything. If Chapman really was unconscious I don't think anyone can fault Slabinski for mistaking Chapman being killed in the initial contact and making the decision that he made to retreat when he had so many wounded and taking heavy machine gun fire from three fortified positions. The problem is the Seals doubling down even after all the evidence came out that Chapman was still alive and the attempts by their higher ups to block Chapman's medal. If THIS is how it went then the biggest villain in this story isn't Slab. It's Admiral Szymanski who pressured Slab and his team to fly right into an area where they knew the enemy was and then, in an attempt to cover his eff up, started maneuvering behind the scenes to push a false narrative of what happened. Chapman's sister said that she initially had no ill will towards the Devgru but when she asked Dan Schilling to help in documenting Chappie's story in 'Alone at Dawn' and in the course of doing this found out how they tried to cover up the truth AND slag her brother's name she sent and email to Task and Purpose in which she went OFF on the Navy. And to hear now that Chapman may have been conscious the whole time and deliberately abandoned?! THAT is some real Blue Falcon sht.

[@speedracer2336]

An Admiral directing ground operations, what could go wrong?

[@kenuffff]

there are multiple books on this..

[@paulstrathern4309]

@@speedracer2336 Well, he wasn't an Admiral at the time. Just a Commander. But, yes, by many authoritative accounts who were involved(like Colonel Pete Blaber) it was Syzmanski who pulled strings to get Seals more involved in Anaconda despite the fact that Delta, the Two-Four, and the ISA pretty much had it handled.

[@GhostRanger5060]

The Navy coverup is the lightning rod story. Sean Naylor and Pete Blaber (and others) wrote books and articles about these issues over ten years ago. SOF leaders in the Army, USAF and USMC communities know all about these issues with SEALS. And the Navy was able to get away with it because they were overly enamored with their own story and the public relations spin they were creating around their SEALS. Having worked with SEALS, I appreciate their superior fitness, water and direct action skills. But they suck at mission planning. They see the brutal planning cycle used by the Army and USMC and they insist they can do it better by cutting corners. And the results speak for themselves. I have seen SEAL field officers at a combatant command get exited about some planning revelation they uncovered that most third year ROTC cadets have already mastered. I am sorry but it's true. That's one reason SEALS started going to the US Army Ranger school in the early 90s. Because their failures and casualties in Panama and Grenada were all due to poor mission planning. And at Ranger school, mission planning must be done by rote -- you can't pass by cutting corners.

[@Dirk-my2zf]

@@GhostRanger5060 complete and utter nonsense.

[@Taydutt13]

How John Chapman got a rez up on top of that mountain, God only knows. He went out like a true warrior, and I believe God has a special place in heaven for heros like him. Rest easy, John Chapman. Legends never really die.

[@masterlightjames950]

He went there to kill people on their own land. God has no place for invaders. Only Satan does.

[@oshea2300]

There's only one way he's in heaven and that's if he trusted Jesus Christ as his savior. Our good works don't get us to heaven. We are judged with what we have done with the sacrifice of Jesus christ, whether we have received it or rejected it. That's what God cares about

[@Taydutt13]

@oshea2300 anyone I have ever heard talk about him described him as a devout catholic.

[@abarton5346]

The SEALS left John in a gunfight and it's ON TAPE.

[@thelogicalcaveman9139]

They thought he was dead and were under fire.

[@thelogicalcaveman9139]

@@JC-hm7he they didn’t really have a choice but to fall back. They were under fire. Roberts Ridge and not a Good day to die talk about this battle and a lot of people have no clue what was going on

[@thelogicalcaveman9139]

@@JC-hm7he you also don’t “win” a Medal of Honor. You earn one and multiple people should of be awarded one for their actions.

[@JC-hm7he]

@@thelogicalcaveman9139 Exactly...

[@JC-hm7he]

@@thelogicalcaveman9139 "Thought" is a good word. Is that how the brotherhood works? If we think you're dead we are going to leave you. Interesting.

[@alexandreeuh]

Going down a rabbit hole and these stories are so interesting. My dad experienced something similar when he was on a mission (pre 9/11). He was forced into a cover up and it caused him to have severe ptsd/alcoholism that ended his life. Military told my mom, who was a single mom of two, that his issues weren’t because of his service (documents were wiped) so we were left with nothing. Thank you for shedding light on this / and providing me validation too

[@nunyah8705]

Every veteran has records on file, all you have to do is send off for the documents. It will be a .gov website if that is ok

[@jojofreelancer1210]

I'm glad you don't allow ppl perspective to change your personal beliefs and your own responsibility

[@Seuspesos]

Read alone at dawn during the pandemic and I loved it. I find it crazy that jocko will never mention CCTs jon Chapman or this event in general.

[@rascalmatt6713]

He doesn't want to be ostracized from the SEAL community

[@alex_4trth]

@@rascalmatt6713That’s speculation. We don’t know this.

[@RRJ00777]

Of course,Jocko would not. If it’s not a seal. It doesn’t matter.

[@soulknight89]

I've always thought Chapman was abandoned. Especially, after watching the ISR video. But this video opened my eyes even more.

[@andrewj9831]

HE took off on his team.... first and foremost...

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

​@andrewj9831 took off on his team? They were pinned down and Chapman took the initiative.

[@andrewj9831]

@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 Was that his job being inexperance in combat? His job was to provide CC and not pull a John Wayne. They had an AC 130 nearby...did he call for support? It's like a medic going off on his own, while members of his team are shot.

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

@@andrewj9831 You can't call in airsupport if you are actively in the open being shot from all sides. You need to take cover first. There was no cover, so he tried to make some.

[@andrewj9831]

@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 That's what the other team members did... got off the helo, took cover at the meeting spot. They were off to the side of a hill that provided protection. The only person that wasn't under cover was him. So if he would have joined his team, listened to his leader, he could have called in air support that was overhead. The crew of the AC 130 was ready to provide support if they got called. This was in their after action report, as they saw the tracers. Maybe watch the video, and you will see the hill, where Chapman was at, where the enemy was at. Overall it was messed up overall days before

[@JamesLCunningham0911]

RIP John Chapman

[@teddy.d174]

I’ve listened to Matt Cubbler in other interviews and he’s very knowledgeable. I really appreciate his knowledge, information and what he has to say. Thanks for providing another great interview, I just found your channel and I’m subscribed and excited to view your content. Cheers

[@GreenBeretChronicles]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Sw22944]

Mind blowing! Great interview!

[@TheSonjaxfactor]

I am grateful for your transparency! I appreciate your channel ❤

[@russpost2557]

Just finished the book .... one of the best ever . Enjoyed it tremendously. Sad , the way it ended for him . Saved so many lives.

[@msh441]

The most concerning part is the fact the SEALs who said he was dead. They lied, and then covered up the truth. Then when the truth comes out, they stonewalled efforts to give Chapman the MOH until some of the SEALs got medals, too. Just gross.

[@charliedelta988]

Funny I heard the lone survivor guy did the same thing on a recent podcast about new information coming out about that mission and lies told by the Navy.

[@vitigaymer1053]

​@@charliedelta988 Marcus didnt block anyone's medals. He may have fled and abandoned his teammates though

[@gregh7400]

The most outrageous thing was not that the seals left Chapman because they thought he was dead. The outrageous thing was that the Navy brass was against him receiving the Medal of Honor and worked against him receiving it because they didn't want it known the seals left him to fight alone. When they realized he was going to finally receive it, they nominated the seal team leader for one as well. Of course, he didn't have the character to turn it down. The whole thing pisses a lot of people off.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

well cuz the navy said that was roberts fightin the whole time , 10th commander said no he got shot in the head and he was ridiculed for years

[@andrewj9831]

He took off on his own and didn't do his job as the comms/air support guy.....

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

@@andrewj9831 we have to know what was planned then with being in a near ambush unless agreed otherwise you assault through by spreading out laying suppressive fire will each one bounds, def dont huddle up

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

@@andrewj9831 whos idea was it to drop on that grid again? thats a absolute fuck up , they dont know whats there , and im add to alot i dont blam slab for things unless u been in that its loud as hell pure chaos . and chapman to live throuhh arty and still fighting is beyond compherinson

[@gregh7400]

@@GATOR_MCLUSKY Read the book, Alone at Dawn. It explains everything.

[@xusmico187]

SEALs flat out left him until some pog capt/col watching the live feed said this is a PR nightmare.

[@dd-uj8jx]

Most Seals back then where pogs😂

[@dd-uj8jx]

​@@DylanAce6yes they where since when those the Navy have grunts gues what por means Personel other than Grunt 😂😂😂😂

[@dd-uj8jx]

​@@DylanAce6who cares Rangers always saving there asses

[@dd-uj8jx]

Exactly

[@dd-uj8jx]

​@@DylanAce6excuses buddy

[@imunchienandalusia]

Much as i hate this "let's piss on the SEALs" media tour going on right now, they've kinda brought it on themselves. Hopefully leadership reins in a little and they can dial back the ego

[@muriloninja]

Unit and other CCT heard Chapman calling out on the radio, however he never responded when they keyed back to him. The CCT/24STS legend who wrote the book "Alone At Dawn" speaks about this.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

his hearing was gone he t have been trash also his hearing to be fucked , they been in a few fire fights and then all the damn c130 rounds around him

[@speedracer2336]

Can’t wait for the movie, book is awesome!

[@TheSonjaxfactor]

What's the name of that book?

[@speedracer2336]

@@TheSonjaxfactor Alone at Dawn!

[@davidfisher1159]

If you read books about this Pete Blaber (Ground Commander/ Delta) told Simanski and DevGru brass that he didn’t want to insert them bc it was dangerous, dumb, and unnecessary. He was ordered to insert them by Simanski and a lot of ppl died in the shit show that ensued.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

symanksi was slabs mentor he was grooming him

[@j.warren757]

This story always intrigued me since 2004 when i was in basic training we read about different airman but him and timothy wilkerson always stood out to me

[@REB4444]

In Tongo Tongo they were left behind too, twice, because of haste to get out of the kill zone. Tonga Tonga was a lot LESS egregious than Rodger's Ridge because those were the supposed Tier 1 DEVGRU SEALS, and they brought a lot of the problems upon themselves. Tonga Tonga wasn't anticipated, less preparation for it, while Rodger's Ridge was one big F-up after another that created the situation & once on the ground the "Tier 1" SEALs didn't perform as expected. They left Rodgers on his own first, then Chapman. There has been so many SEAL ops that have gone horribly because of arrogance, bad planning, haste, bad decisions once on the ground, etc. Paitilla Airport, Grenada's Governor's Mansion & Radio Station, Rodger's Ridge, Redwings, etc. Add to that the B.S. medals, cover-ups, stolen valor, crimes, drugs, etc. and it's time to relegate these people to the minor leagues. Promote MARSOC, for who are true silent professionals, as the #1 seaborne D.A. unit. Give them their budget.

[@srsmedic8285]

* Roberts ridge..

[@mutantmaker6206]

Honestly well put and prolly going to happen idk If you heard but navy SW and seals as whole are no longer going to be a infantry unit

[@srsmedic8285]

@@mutantmaker6206 I don’t really understand what you were trying to say. Seals were never like infantry.. do you mean direct action? I’m just curious what you meant. I’m not messing with you.

[@notundermywatch3163]

Tongo Tongo's failure was largely due to the indig' force these green berets were embedded with when the ambush happened. The green berets were spred thin and the indig' just bailed out they even left some of their own behind

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

everyone under estimated the enemy and no one thought about the altitude simce we all was in great shape, they aret goat herders like people wannna believe these men could fight and terrain was easy for them .

[@TPSYOM]

I’m a retired Air Force Master Sergeant - Career AF Sec Forces / Raven/ intel Analyst… we had to test on the PDG through the years and they made us believe this story about John Chapman and Jason Cunningham that is apparently not true… and it actually hurts to the core. I'm truly sorry for his family having to relive this nightmare over and over.

[@KarmaFlight]

The cover up is worse than the crime!

[@Bubbly_pen]

John Chapman is buried in the same County that i live in.

[@timothyshoemaker9555]

I could go into a lot of observations about this in great detail but I'm going to keep it on the surface. That I'm going to be a little bit of a smartass by saying it. The seals are out of their league for the past 22 years. They're not a land fight force they're an aquatic force. They're the most unnecessary of all the socom participants. When compared to the units that are involved in socom. And as a Marine saying this the Green berets have their specific roles the rangers have their specific roles Delta Force has their specific roles. The Navy seals are not land fighters their sailors they belong on ships and in the water and that's where they need to stay. Because time and time again critiques of their operations brings up this clownish cowboy mentality that they have. They act like swashbucklers. Leave the land warfare to the army they have the paratroopers they have the rangers and if they need to create some gorilla warfare somewhere they've got the Green berets. You need to stop Somali pirates or pirates in general. You have the Navy seals and the United States Marines. The concept of the Navy seals as a tier 1 anti-terrorism operational group is some pipe dream by an admiral and the Navy

[@AUDACITY4Uphotographer]

Thank you for your service to our nation. You’re speaking truth. I’m former US Army and was support with 5th Special Forces Group and I can speak first hand about the unique skills of the Green Berets. Each of the military units have phenomenal but unique skills. Again thank you for your dedication and service to our nation.🇺🇸🙏🏾

[@whitewhale-gq2kc]

100% this. Never understood how the SEALs got so much land warfare time. Especially when they recruit direct entry whereas all other Army SF mostly develop through green army, rangers, infantry etc. And then delta would have all that green army experience. Just a pog's observation

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

seals have been getting monitized and hollywood is porttraying them as something else, also the shortage of sof guys for 2 guerilla wars they need the units . green berets are pretty amazing in their skill set its more about teaching and turning locals into fighters, they can do raids and halo etc but its not their soul purpose , i loved workign with them and chillin out on guns blazing every mission.

[@manhalen7046]

​@@whitewhale-gq2kcHow? Because the missions were there and they needed more swinging dicks to put into the fight. Afghanistan was by and large a special operations war with Rangers and some convent army and marine infantry units used as blocking forces but there were only so many spec ops teams to go around and army sf teams were doing what they were supposed to be doing and training indig forces to multiply the force. This is why the army sf CRF teams were formed, for da missions. Because da missions are not inherent to army sf. Sometimes you just need more bodies, no pun intended, to put into the fight.

[@seanheaney8303]

The Navy did this as a massive psy ops... they did this as a way to manipulate young men into the navy. Let's be real the navy low-key kinda sucks, most positions in the navy unless you want to be a Officer( vessel Commander), diver , seal etc are kinda bland undesirable jobs into today's world. The navy allows you to go right to BUDS why ? Because when 70% fail out they just go to a normal enlisted position( food services, maintenance, security) its a huge enlistment ploy to get people to join the navy, fail buds and then get dumped into a crappy go nowhere Military position..... the seals are the navy's biggest recruiting tool.

[@JesseMongia]

Team leader never got nearer then 20 feet to Chapman who was laying down with weapon laying across Chapman's chest . Team leader said he saw Chapman's chest rising up and down while he laid on ground and then he looked again and did not see movement of his breathing . Never getting close enough to check Chapman's pulse , and only checked visually from many feet away .That was enough for team leader to leave Chapman on the hill . Only when radio chatter said a lone fighter was engaged with enemy and the voice was recognized from people who knew Chapman's voice and calling for help . Team leader received a medal for his actions of fight on that hill and leaving Chapman . In fact , when questioned back on base , team leader was adamant that Chapman was dead and he didn't know if the single soldier fighting the enemy on Hill may have been a flipped out enemy combatent that was killing his own men .

[@aaronseivert5614]

🫡 Chappy. Your memory forever stands as tall as them all.

[@SNAKEEATER1776]

No fucks given. Absolutely love you’re setting the record straight.

[@RickLag8514]

In the book, other CCT's in the area could hear Chapman's radio calls and responded, but he didnt hear them. His radio was seemingly broken when he took hits and fell, immobilized for an unkown period of time. Slabinksi looked over at Chapman and thought he was dead, then ordered a retreat after a few other seals were shot. Chapman, Slabinski nor the other Seals ever saw Roberts body even though they were mere feet from him once they moved through the first bunker. Superior fire power from three bunkers was hitting them from multiple positions as soon as their Helicopter crested over that mountain top. In the book, CCT's from the QRF helicopter that was shot down during a rescue attempt finally called in the airpower on the mountain long after Slabinski and his seals(2 of which were wounded) had retreated down the slopes. PJ's, Rangers, CCT, and Seals died on this mission, but i dont believe for a second the seals on the ground betrayed anyone. The people in charge behind the scenes were trying to take control, and rushed that seal team to that mountaintop without proper intel(Other CCT in the area had spotted enemy fortified positions on that peak and reported it) and proper planning. The seals were using backchannel communication, going behind the back of the leader of the operation(Pete Blaber) and taking orders from their own seal leaders.

[@mattcubbler]

While your assessment could all be plausible, the 15 years of intentional coverup - with Slabs willingly playing the role as the hero and Szymanski playing the role of director of the cover up - is the real crime. I’ve been very clear in every podcast that I can accept chaos and accept the fact that maybe they truly thought he was dead. But the efforts to keep the truth from coming out is criminal and needs to be addressed once and for all.

[@RickLag8514]

@@mattcubbler I agree that the coverup is a crime but I can imagine Slabinski was just following orders same as he was on the mountain, which means his boss is the one who should be held accountable and is most likely the reason why Slabinski has become the scapegoat of this whole tragedy.

[@mattcubbler]

@@RickLag8514 possibly true. But at what point during 15 years does the scapegoat’s silence become complicity to the crime? I don’t see him as a victim. I see him as an accomplice.

[@treeless62]

@@RickLag8514following orders? Sweep it away with that crap? Enlisted know not go ‘go along’ To me it shows a pattern of covering up mistakes and they got caught

[@RickLag8514]

@@treeless62 They know not to go along but then it ends their career. I wasn't sweeping anything away, I just blame the people responsible rather than the ones on the ground. I don't see any point in causing divide among the different units in the military, and I wish people were smart enough to get the facts right and hold the ones in charge accountable.

[@VWDaveB]

I knew him or knew he (of him) was an instructor at the school. I worked with the PJ's at the time. Jason Cunningham, the PJ who died from his injuries on that hill, was a student of ours at JSOMTC. Jason was prior Navy and I used to rag him on that, I was the MTL. To this days in infuriates me that John was left for dead and Jason and many others died that day going back for a SEAL who fell out of a chapter and was most likely dead, SEAL's were also part of JSOMTC, and friends,so this is not anti-SEAL. Yet John was left for dead, and they weren't sure, and it was deemed too dangerous to attempt a rescue of Jason and the others. I know for a fact that Jason would have had a chance of living had they done so, his two daughters, may still have their dad.

[@mattycapone4281]

A CCT, green beret, SEAL and recon dude walk into a bar. The army guy orders a shot of whisky. He slams it down and breaks the shot glass on his head. The CCT guy watching his stocks on his phone calmly orders a chocolate milk with a straw. The other guys laugh at him like do you even do DA bro? The marine just asks for a cup of diesel fuel. The marine slammed it down and gut punches the CCT. Marines right? We get to the NSW dude. He writes a book about the whole event and makes all the characters SEALS. lol. Just kidding navy guys y’all know I love you maniacs. Disclaimer: I was a CCT. For 6 years until I had to separate on a medical.

[@stillsober19]

A significant part about the other CCT on the other mountain is that he was John’s teammate and close friend.

[@dwainsellers6453]

Most all CCT 's are close friends. When you put your life on the line the people that are there with you doing that same thing will be your friend for life. My son Is a CCT and they are a close knit group and are highly respected by the other branches of the military.

[@JBCCT01]

The SEAl community has had more catostrophic mission failures in the SOF community than all other units combined.

[@greatcornholio5541]

Grenada and Panama invasion they also got f’ed up…it’s because they don’t have good foundations when they start. Their mission planning seems to be subpar because of this they seem to get over their heads a lot

[@demon13doc]

And that's just the published ones.

[@Dirk-my2zf]

Not at all. The jealousy, especially after “Neptune Spear” has been catastrophic though; especially for the butt hurt us army.

[@Killin_365]

Alone at Dawn is heart breaking.

[@GhostRanger5060]

It should have been called Chapman Ridge. He was a hero to the end. No offense to SEAL Roberts but he fell out of a helicopter because of his leader's poor mission prep. Chapman was left behind and fought to the end. Read Naylor's "Not a Good Day to Die." The SEALS' absolute piss poor planning culture led to this. The Army Delta and SF teams they replaced spent days reconning their sites and stealth rucking into position. Who thought landing a recon team on top of a mountain was stealthy? Truth is, "inserting on the mountain" is a euphemism for "unwilling to walk uphill" (and yeah, I know it sucks, been there and it SUCKS, but it's why we are supposed to train hard). And "surprise!" -- the enemy who was known to be in the area had the temerity to be on the high ground already? Geez... a 2LT Army or USMC intel weenie could have told you that. Truth is, SEALS are great warriors for direct action, littoral ops, Maritime interdiction and all things water. They simply have no business being used for strategic or tactical recon... but they continue to insist they can do it despite their lack of long-term experience or willingness to train for it. The reason why we have different SOF units is because you actually cannot train a single SOF superstud for every mission set. Not well. Green Berets and Ranger RRC guys go to combat scuba course but they are not the SMEs in that regard like a SEAL UDT trained guy. And that's okay. But this landlocked war wasn't putting enough money into the Navy budget (except for ordinance). So they kept putting SEALS on missions they were under-trained for. Heck, they should have put some conventional Army LRS or USMC Recon Bn boys out there. But the SOF community was trying to get rid of conventional units that possessed SOF like skills. The buzzword BS phrase is "Drones can do everything R and S used to do." And at Anaconda, the phrase was, "SEALS can do anything Army SOF can do." Nope. And how many Rangers died to pull these guys' nuts out of this fire? Whole story is heartbreaking. And stuff like this happens in war, I get it, but the cover-ups and the denial on the part of one community are inexcusable. And the SOF Task Force Commander who allowed all this to happen went on to be a Flag commanding a SOC regional command... yep.

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

Well Russia/Ukraine war is definitely proving all that training could end be for nothing.

[@michaelganter8952]

I love it how NSW likes to gaslight everyone. my guys, it's on video, you can't deny anything. just own it and make corrections.

[@richardpierce7819]

As a U.S. Marine we are taught you never leave a man behind. I've never been in combat , but I would like to think I would have stayed and faught.

[@programr101]

A good book that describes the battle on Takur Ghar is "The mission, The Men, and Me" by Delta Force Officer Pete Blaber. He explains the breakdown in communication and bureaucracy in the chain of command that lead to the disaster. He discusses this incident in Chapter 19 of the book.

[@andrewj9831]

Agree...it was a CF overall.

[@miket7173]

I don’t know. I could never imagine leaving a man behind no matter how bad shit got or how screwed we were. You either extract together or you fight and die together. That’s just something you don’t question or think of. Rest In Peace and never forget Chapman!

[@alanleblanc1763]

John Chapman was a serious operator. He was an airman.my boys always have heart. Cannot be denied

[@DavidDust-y8x]

Other good men died that day. Jason Cunningham an Air Force Pararescueman also fought and saved lives. He was awarded the Silver Star.

[@MIL1120]

Chapman is that "MAN"

[@hedonistjohn6200]

He was such a legend that my entire basic training compound was called the John Chapman training center. They had shrines to him and had his gear and little plaque saying all the things he did. He was used as the perfect airman that if we were not doing what we needed to do we were embarrassing. John Chapman. They treated him like Jesus or Santa that he's always watching and judging if you're not good enough

[@Soul_Shifter]

I literally just watched the video of CIA drone footage showing this exact battle. It's been out for 5 years. Shows beginning to end exactly what happened on that ridge. They left him there after he was mortally wounded (not dead) over night.

[@Bretjohnson1331]

they knew he wasn't dead when they abandoned him and with them knowing that, I truly believe they ordered the air strikes on Chapman's location for that reason.

[@saljablo2767]

The new intel he’s not ready to get into. It’s audio. There is audio of Chapman speaking the entire time.

[@mattcubbler]

Exposing the new Intel would expose a source and that source is not yet ready to be public. How I know he conscious and what he was actually doing during that time would expose the source. Chappy was heard talking on the radio but not during the time he was said to be unconscious. You have your audio details confused. He was on the radio once he was said to have come to after they left him up there. He was heard on a net that was for combat controllers.

[@BlyGuy]

​@@mattcubblerI just wanted to thank you for the great work you are doing. I'm not a military guy, but I love our warriors. Lies like the ones revolving around Roberts Ridge kill morale. If you're a white side seal or even a DG guy, how can you respect upper command when you know they might well put you in danger with r*tarded ops, and then may even lie about you if it helps keep NSW's reputation in tact

[@shinyhappyshibas1385]

The one thing that does not get mentioned hardly ever is the sacrifices the rangers made this day and so many others to kick ass and get the job done.

[@chrismercyer2396]

John Chapman was left by the Seals and their brass tried to hide it. Chapman is a true example of an AFSOC warrior.

[@keokenpo]

Thanks for continuing to spread the truth. The SEALs, as an organization, didn't do this but the team did this and the poor management (can't call them a leader in this situation). IMO looks like the USN gave that manager a MoH to keep prying eyes of the lack of ethos.

[@gusm2752]

Unbelievable story. The fact that the SEALS and the NAVY tried to block the MOH for Chapman and covering for one of their own is beyond disgusting I knew there was something fishy with that story with the SEAL. TOO much info out about what happened. RIP JOHN CHAPMAN. MEDAL OF HONOR 🇺🇸 Can’t wait for the movie being made.

[@MrMike6519]

Stay true, Brother, and thank you!💯

[@jojofreelancer1210]

Man everyone involved should be in prison man. US took my teens young adult life for way way less than what these men did to disgrace their honor

[@derkaturka]

John Chapman, the REAL "lone survivor" IMHO.

[@TowGunner]

Was lying Slabinski upset that Chapman immediately took off and engaged the terrorists? Would love to know what was said on the helicopter prior to hitting the hill. “Hey Chapman, you’re not a Seal, you follow us.” Just speculating. Slabinski stated Chapman was dead. Obviously another lie since Chapman was clearly heard on the radio by a fellow combat controller. And for the navy to fight tooth and nail against Chapman receiving the MOH but Slabinski getting one is outrageous.

[@andrewj9831]

But John never told the Seals the freq were changed during the mission. Chapman should have stayed with his mission leader and not took off.....common sense....

[@madsnovember1614]

​@@andrewj9831Staying in a killzone during a near ambush is the opposite of common sense. Its stupidity, which is why the SEALs got fucked up. If they had followed Chapman they wouldve had a foothold and not have to fall of a fucking mountain in fear for their lives.

[@andrewj9831]

@@madsnovember1614 They wasn't in a kill zone when at the meet up point. They had the edge of the hill between them. AND as they "bad guys" didn't have NV, they were "shooting in the dark" unless they saw tracers. This is why if you watch the video, you will see the two-2 man teams were flanking , with no tracers following them until they returned fire. This was also conformed by the AC-130 overhead, as they could see the enemy movements. So in a sense, Chapman was their target, as he was giving his position away. So Chapman who had very limited exp in active missions knew better then people who had multiple "big" missions under their belt?

[@KyrosT_]

Rip Chapman. You are the man we all aspire to be ☦️🇺🇸

[@MrGsxr10001]

I was US ARMY 11/B way back in the 70s I would never want to risk the lives of my brothers to retrieve my dead bones. I"ve talked to my wife about it and she said she would never want more men to die to bring back my dead body. My ole man fought in WW2, Korea and Vietnam in the US NAVY. All the men that were killed onboard the ships were slid over the side. No one died trying to bring their bones back. it just makes no since to die for a dead man. John Chapman was the best of the best.

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Did the Navy deny MOH for those sailors too like they did to Chapman?

[@marcusbelmonte7527]

My stance on “no leaving soldiers behind “ I am with the slogan 100 percent. I don’t think the modern military lives up to it . Soldiers are left behind hind all the time , not just on battlefield.

[@GhostRanger5060]

Black Hawk Down was about that ethos from an Army perspective. They should make SEALS watch it over and over again and then kiss the feet of an Airborne Ranger given how many times Rangers died on a QRF pulling the nuts of a SEAL Team out of a fire.

[@renegadearms]

Agreed sometimes stuff happens, I was never in a horrible situation like John Chapman, but twice my squad and I got left in Iraq because of radio failure and the fog of everything going on but we just rolled in our vehicle until we caught up with the group cussed them out for not making sure we were with group before rolling and moved on. So the story definitely seems fishy.

[@RealMoukeycat]

16:33 I wonder if the AC-130 pilot has been interviewed.

[@seanmcpart832]

I don’t doubt for a minute Slabinski’s heroism at the objective, as he had a lot to deal with and probably did his best given the horrible circumstances. Admittedly, a lot of which occurred on the objective were out of his control. However, I will point out something which I find distasteful, which he can now control. Any interviews I have seen with Slabinski, since he received the Medal, I have noticed he has never really mentioned Chappies heroism, and actually glosses right over it. His actions were so minimized you’d never know Chappy was also a MOH recipient in that same battle. Nothing at all about his heroics…nada. I‘m at a loss as to why he would do that. Google it and watch some of his interviews. As an aside, as the team leader, Slabinski helped write Chappies original Air Force Cross citation, which stated that Chappy “unequivocally saved the lives of the entire team”. Powerful words which were omitted from the MOH citation. Why would that be?

[@treeless62]

Most likely the USAF saw right through him and NSW

[@seanheaney8303]

He flat out didn't deserve the MOH, he made multiple seriously poor or unleadership like decisions and left a man behind to die. The entire purpose of the MOH is heroism far above and beyond standards AT THE RISK of one's own life to save the lives of others. Was he heroic made but not to the extent which a MOH recipient is, slab MAYBE earned a silver star if your hyper generous a navy cross..... no way he gets the MOH. It's sad.

[@jaycieyork8217]

@@seanheaney8303 good lord yes. I was incredibly confused why he received a MOH. I could possibly see another award, but MOH? Doesn’t really line up with other recipients of that award. Also strategic, considering he was awarded it in May of 2018.

[@seanheaney8303]

@@jaycieyork8217 it was a strategic coverup of a operation that lead to disaster.... giving MOHs makes it look less like it went to shit.

[@screamingeagle11b]

They're making a movie on Mr. chapman, jake gellenhal is supposed to play the role and no im not talking about his recent war movie, but you can google the info, hopefully it comes out and tells his story well.

[@Det31722]

That movie has been dropped

[@mattkosakowski7582]

@@Det31722 I'm sure the many former Seals in Hollywood are fighting tooth and nail to prevent that movie from being made.

[@lloyd_and_harrys_worm_farms]

This is one of the most jacked up stories I’ve ever heard about this battle. The SEALs responsible for this cover up are despicable. How shocking, yet ANOTHER story involving Tim Szymanski. This is my shocked face :|

[@kevindavison71]

These guys been leaving the air force out to hang out since nineteen seventy three

[@11bravo1789]

As an Infantryman of 8 years (2001-2009) and Iraq War Veteran (2005) with Alpha Troop 1/11ACR. I Served at Camp Gunslinger, Fort Apache, Camp Taji, Camp Liberty, and the Abu Ghraib Prison (we moved around a-lot). Man, this entire story just pisses me off so bad. How the Fuck do you leave this man behind. You at a Minimum have to 100% confirm he is KIA. Ridiculous man.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

i will say this which im not leaving till i got a head count i promise 11b as well 01-06 1-504 82nd . not making a excuse him but those mountains if ya aint been up one they are soul takers and the air is thin mind ya they are in deep snow it is still dark out . getting orientated taking casualties and heavy machine im sure everyone was deaf.i look back and think slab was just confused and when he went over roberts body he thought it was chapman. my prob is someone's ass shoulda had to answer and explain why the planning was so poor

[@AceMC-f8d]

My respect to Sir John Chapman & the family. Death of a love one is an actual experience of death for the berieved family. Knowing that it was from betrayal, this tragic departure of John was a hundred times devasting for the family. I remember i was only 6yo when one movie scene made me cry quietly in front of the tv. My english was poor back then but good enough to understand how Elias was betrayed and left to die from one of Oliver Stone's masterpieces the PLATOON. The movie was a testament that PRIDE is not only detrimental in fighting the enemy but also was deadly from among brothers or friends. Our secular expermentation is yet again proven hopeless. 26:13

[@gordonallen9095]

This is revealing. SEAL team members murder an Army SF operator to cover up a crime, and now a SEAL team leave an Air Force CC to die, and cover it up. As an operator in Army SF, or an Air Force CC or PJ, how do they have any collective professional trust working with the SEALS? And what does JSOC think about this? The Navy should be ashamed of the conduct of some of their operators. RIP Msgt. Chapman. FIRST THERE

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

My dad was a PJ for 30 years, he said he never trusted them or even SF. But always spoke highly of the Marines.

[@Udtghost840]

John is a national treasure. War isn't black, and white things happen. when you're being shot at from all sides, things can go real bad real fast .you go I go. He was a great operator who did his job rest in peace bad ass

[@cmnieman1]

Wasn't Chapman making radio calls the whole time?

[@michaelbaccetti1583]

Thanks for calling these guys out. These are your brothers, would you leave your brother to die? Thanks for the video my friend

[@marcopowell9462]

Im a former Marine and what pisses me off is how some of these missions are such ego and not enought thinking. Why try to land a bird in the same spot that one all ready was shot down. Im not taking nothin away from Chatman RIP he did his thing but the brass at the top to me are stupid. They could of sent in a couple of Apache helicopters in to blow that bunker up then send in land troops to clean it up. Less risk to personnel. I dont know why they dont use attack chops as much. Or is it because of budget. Let me know if im wrong on this. But so many sof guys and grunts are put in some of the stupids situations

[@americanminer1965]

John Chapman is an American hero 🇺🇸 and what happened to him is a disgrace 😔 May he rest in peace with other warriors, he gave his life for thoes men 🙏

[@stevenhenry8374]

I hope that truth gets a proper hearing. John Chapman's family deserve at least that....he was undoubtedly whether intentionally or out of necessity the tip of that spear on that mountain that day. This all doesn't look good for the integrity of the navy. RIP and respect to a true warrior John Chapman.... He deserved better.

[@ericmack001]

What a sad story!

[@Rocky-MAGA]

This guy all he says is "I was told" or so the story goes " if you weren't there you shouldn't act like you know something.

[@jeremiaht7063]

Could you cover Bowe Bergdahl? Not to necessarily crap on him, but the real story after all the evidence came out. I don’t think he is fantastic, but I also don’t dislike him as much as I once did. His desertion conviction was overturned. With 12 years as a Combat Medic I certainly don’t support him walking outside the wire and leaving his sensitive items, but there is reason to believe he actually thought he was going to another base to report what he thought was wrongdoing by his chain of command.

[@mr.hemlock1900]

SEALS Monday: Do mission. Tuesday: Debrief mission. Wednesday: Write Book. Thursday: Media tour. Friday: Produce a movie. Saturday: Run for Congress. Sunday: Screw over American people.

[@jordansamson6071]

Some seals.* There are lots of good ones that truly believe in being professionals

[@damonstewart70]

Instead of navy seals. They should call em,"Baby Eels"

[@Sindy-x4v]

​@@damonstewart70 More like pirate seals .

[@scottmcley5111]

At the bare minimum, mistakes were made. But, in all honesty, war is chaotic AF. I hate throwing stones. All i can say is this is why we need to sort our problems out peacefully. We need our Chapmans at home with their families, not some snow covered mountaintop, where this cant happen.

[@casbornstudios00]

Unreal...

[@MarkNevels-m8k]

What john chapman did cant be trained into a man. It was what he was, what he meant, what everything meant to him. He dug deep that day. & never thought twice. I dont know him but till the day i die he will get u choked up because of his incredible futile sacrifice

[@WinstonCorneilius]

Matt is doing the lord’s work. He is also not suicidal

[@Yes-Gi-Man]

The Audio is very poor from Matt, as always....needs an upgrade badly, very hard to understand him

[@ramiromartinez5335]

Wow idk who would want to be a seal after this bull. What a pos organization.

[@Biscuit3364]

A complementary book to Alone at Dawn is Pete Blabers book “the Men, The Mission and Me”

[@josephsmith6777]

Everyone should read code over conduct to hear what seals and ppl around them had to say about to a reporter writing about this specific mission