STOP Buying Armour upgrades

[@ProtoxxGaming]

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[@Kranon]

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[@carltonp420]

pubg mobile is legit

[@BrothersofOG]

Do you try to sound like you have Down syndrome half the time in your videos or are you actually missing some chromosomes lmaooo

[@ProtoxxGaming]

@xxpyroxx75 They do give a huge bonus though :P

[@crippledepre9539]

Don’t buy armor upgrades, buy shadow dyes. Guaranteed 10% dps increase

[@gragrim]

🤣 They gotta know red shoes make you run faster

[@Joyboy0101]

Spoken like a Shadow Dye salesman...

[@crippledepre9539]

@@Joyboy0101 I wish, I’m on the other side. A shadow dye addict. I have like 8 of the things. Imagine what I could have bought instead lol

[@devinmoore1352]

@@crippledepre9539 you could have bought some armor upgrades 😂

[@seanlawlor4849]

Ok protoxx I get it, I won’t upgrade! I’ll solo zamy with bronze armor and a bronze dagger!

[@ProtoxxGaming]

I know you're joking but I hope people that read the title actually watch the video before indeed, coming to that conclusion :P

[@Marks_journey]

Who needs armor? Just run in naked. Zamy won’t know the difference. 😂

[@elgato1199]

@@ProtoxxGaming he did not obviously because only weapon only matter

[@destinedstsurin4853]

Sean, I think you misunderstood… You need to solo Zammy with bronze armor and a t90 dagger.

[@FauzzyGaming]

You upgraded to bronze? I went in with training sword and shield 🫡

[@Fireblats]

Something SUPER IMPORTANT to note, getting your combat skill to 99 is almost more important than an upgrade of gear. Base accuracy(wearing no gear) at level: lvl 70 = 594 (about the accuracy of splitbark/batwing) lvl 80 = 769 (about the accuracy of mystic wand) lvl 90 = 983 (gravite wand) lvl 99 = 1212.2392 (inbetweens treachery and grifolic) ** Notice how level 90 to 99 gives 19% more base accuracy -- that's HUGE!! So getting magic to level 99 gives you the base accuracy of a tier 65 weapon without having any weapons or gear on. Thats HUGE. It simply gets added to the accuracy of whatever weapon you end up wearing. Even more huge is if you use every single boost available to you at max magic, boosting your mage to level 142 from 99 your base accuracy is 2898.6304 without ANY gear on. Thats higher than any weapons accuracy in the game. This means with a Wand of Praesul, supreme overload, and maniacal aura without any armor your accuracy would be 5,475.6304. this gives you 142.77% chance to hit arch glacor in hard mode. With auras, level 99, and supreme overloads you can use as low as a gravite wand and still hit arch glacor 101% of the time without any armor on. Now what if you were level 90 magic with the same setup? You're only going to hit arch glacor 87.20% of the time. The point is, if you're missing you're doing ZERO damage, which is much worse than doing a little less per hit.

[@scott4418]

Very helpful, thank you

[@dwalters98]

incredibly interesting information! I'm a ranged main as I have that at 99 (mage will come soon XD), but the concept should still transfer over to other combat styles.

[@unorevers7160]

I'd love to see an armour test. Like how long does it take for glacor to kill you at different armour tiers.

[@CollectorTaneleerTivan]

Important to point out levels early on are much faster to progress example level 50 to 70, you may not need to get T60 dragon armour and go straight to bandos and it should get you to 99 with ed3 running

[@halofighter111]

U can run ed3 trash at 50 still

[@AMorphicTool]

Ironman mode taught me most of this intuitively. When given a choice between; grind out 3 - 5 drops, or 1 - 2 drops, you generally choose weapons over armour. After that, you perk them, level herblore for ovls, level prayer for ss/curses etc. Only after most of that is done do you then find the longer grinds for t90+ armour worthwhile. In the modern era with animate dead being where it's at, getting a set of t80 power has never been easier, but even still sometimes it can be more hassle than it's worth. When you can't just buy your gear, you quickly learn what is and isn't important. Weapons over armour, knowledge of mechanics over everything else. It's nice to see some maths behind it, it does put everything into perspective. Great video.

[@mahaok1]

Yeah absolutely as someone who nearly earned a hydrix from reaper assignments on an ironman you can really feel the difference between a mid tier item like sunspear and high level weapons like elder rune. I was using melee agaisnt typically bad melee bosses like QBD just because of how much more pressure you can apply with the more powerful weapons haha

[@gavingraham6139]

I think the only armour upgrade that would be quick is masterwork sense its just made, just due to afk work while doing other stuff

[@kipo8454]

Ironman made me realize Elite Rune had it's uses, being able to stay at Vindicta and Graardor 100x longer without banking than when having Bandos armor on (For the players that were too lazy to grind masterwork right away), sometimes that armor bonus be feeling great if your power armor is tons of tiers below some beefy boi armor. Granted this benefit was useless at any boss that had high accuracy like Araxxor so for sure has a heavy fall off and even a little damage ends up being superior in every way. (Rushing 90 mining/smithing in 2 weeks got me a Dragon Rider Lance within 5 weeks of playing though was a very happy noob)

[@feedmepure1]

After I got my nox set on my iron just before group bossing was opened up I had set a goal to get better armors because I thought it would make pvm easier. As I got better armor I became a proponent of just telling people t90 and gwd1 armor = game completed. The bosses I struggled at with gwd1 armor I still struggled with in t90 power armor. People make goals of xp milestones and then do a long gear grinds to make it faster? Like they literally spend more time getting these tiny stat boosts than getting 200m takes. Now if you like upgrading your gear then by all means grind away.

[@kipo8454]

@@feedmepure1 Yeah true my old clan leader had literally achieved all 99 non-combats and multiple 120 skills like arch before he started combat, unnessary but I mean... He surpassed my 7 year ironman in a single year and is about to be comped after 3 years 😅 Think it matters more if you've truly laid out a solid plan on what to get over just fighting whatever though

[@Bgradney]

Lmao! "Yes all of this probably sounds confusing, welcome to RuneScape."

[@loki_y2k]

tl;dw: Get weapon upgrades first as they are more impactful than buying a higher tier power armor, exceptions being Cryptbloom (w/ anidead, the only tank armor past T75 worth going for) and Vestments of Havoc (T114 style bonuses?!) *where applicable* (i.e. don't buy them unless you can take full advantage of them and have superb weapons already). Main reason being that these armor sets have additional benefits over just being something you drape over your body and call it a day - Vestments is increased adrenaline gain and +6 seconds on Berserk, which is 2-3 more abilities used that makes the difference, while Cryptbloom is hands down the most busted abomination in the game.

[@drlolable]

Vestments are very interesting armor. I feel like theyre underrated

[@joshb8209]

Should I bother with crypt if I don't have animate?

[@lihavalokki5705]

@@drlolable It's because melee is by far the most difficult combat style to properly optimize, because you'd need a full inventory of switches to bring melee on par with fsoa, which even includes a helm switch (havoc hood and jaws of the abyss). This is why melee is only really used when bridding, and most of the average players do not want to bother with that either, even though a 4- or a 5-item switch for zerk is pretty simple and a big boost to dps over just camping a single combat style.

[@loki_y2k]

@@joshb8209 you should be fine even without Animate Dead, since the 2 piece (and 3 piece) Cryptbloom offers percent damage reduction for incoming melee and magic damage (improved further if you use Earth spells with 3p+, including Shadow spells as they use Earth runes, or Emerald Aurora).

[@Piraja27]

Yes, upgrading your weapon should take priority. However, I feel like I need add that each player has their own set of "needs" in combat. If you're new to pvm and you're trying out a boss that you havent killed before. Using tank armor is imo is very understandable since it offers the extra cushion to make mistakes.

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Only animate dead, any other armor will make the boss harder

[@mememastodon69]

You're under the assumption that tank armour makes players appreciably tankier, which it doesn't outside of animate dead.

[@Piraja27]

@@mememastodon69 you'd be surprised how much it affects dmg taken and survivability even without animate dead

[@pergaman6334]

While it's certainly interesting to know that you ( most of the time) should choose weapon upgrade over armour upgrade, I think you should also check the damage reduction that you get by buying higher tier armour, cause I believe that is the biggest purpose of buying better armours in the first place. But ofcourse I might be wrong as a casual Runescape player. :D

[@Jefftiffy]

Armor most of the time does not offer damage reduction. It lowers hit chance unless there is a unique effect like animate dead.

[@yarglof]

@@Jefftiffy getting hit less often is, in essence, damage reduction. Personally it feels significant to me going from t70-t90.

[@biomwalk]

@@Jefftiffy The jump from T80-->T90 armor at the magister is the difference between being able to revo/afk him and not. He hits you substantially less often in sirenic vs pernix

[@Jefftiffy]

@@yarglof Damage reduction and taking less damage isn't the same thing in. Very similar but not the same. One implies being hit for less the other implies being hit less often. It is true you will take significantly less damage with T90 armor, but if your DPS is high enough it wont matter on almost any tasks and most bosses with tier 70/75 or cheap tier 80 armor. You will use slightly more food, but you are inly really saving like 20-30k in supplies per trip unless you are running sailfish or blubbers + brews then its like 50k.

[@yarglof]

@@Jefftiffy using more food is a significant dps loss, much more than the ~1% difference provided by the actual bonuses on the armour. Of course this can be mitigated by using blubbers, brews, or ss flicking etc. but I don't expect that to be what's happening with the majority of the intended audience of these types of videos.

[@stoched]

I will say I mainly used pernix for a long time but finally decided to buy sirenic. At the same time I finally got some more expensive perks biting 4+ X etc. I think this advice is okay in general but if you're at the point where I was wearing pernix you are most definitely better off not putting extremely expensive perks on it because it's significantly more expensive/ hard to get those perks off. With sirenic you can easily disassemble it without it being hte end of the world and can then upgrade to elite sirenic. But if you put your expensive perks on pernix you're either going to need to use an equipment separator which is expensive and annoying since you have to level up the gear to 15 or whatever. OR you dissasemble the pernix which is pretty expensive to do. So I think I was better off upgrading from pernix to sirenic then putting expensive perks on that.

[@bosstweed3303]

Elite sirenic is a scam. I'll only consider it after death cost rework.

[@stoched]

@@bosstweed3303 I mean yeah you'll be fine in regular sirenic I was just making the point when the time comes you want to do that upgrade it's a lot easier to get expensive perks off sirenic and onto elite sirenic than off pernix and onto anything else

[@kollinpoindexter8859]

I don't know if sirenic is really an upgrade from pernix. With bossing mostof the time the extra armor doesn't matter because mechanics are 100% accuracy, or the boss will give you a massive reso that heals all the damage you have taken from his autos anyways. The upkeep costs of the armours are similar too. Sirenic offers a small boost in dmg, but the extra damage is negligible, especially when you get to higher end rotations and half your abilities in ds are max hitting. For the most part I would like an extra 500 health over an extra 4 base range dmg. The perk removability is a valid concern due to the upfront cost of pernix. But that's really only if you choose to change styles, not really if your staying in range. I think for the most part I would even take pernix over sirenic, although the extra armor from the tier 90 and 92 is significant to pass on if your doing bosses without 100% auto hit chance and no reso spots. I do bosses where the damadge is fixed and the sirenic wouldn't save me from mistakes where pernix would.

[@Kindofsavvy]

I'm thinking of coming back. But man O' man. There's so much to learn...

[@merdasmerdas80]

there is not ,t his guy just loves making confusing videos, math numbers numbers numbers spits 3 minutes of numbers and numbers and viewers belive everything he says becuase "numbers". most of what he said is correct but its not right xD

[@iDragy]

i keep forgetting that power armour exists, lowkey dont feel safe without animate death and achto for new content releases, they should just add range and melee tank to animate death aswel ;_; the only power armour i sort of still like is trimmed mw and maybe the zamy armour but haven't been able to try yet

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Animate dead is best fren

[@merdasmerdas80]

@@ProtoxxGaming best for carrying noobs trough high level content :) you are able to hit 16.8k but your max hit is 8k just because you wanna be tank... you are leeching yourself xD

[@Holothewolfx]

I want more of a focus on Hybrid armor. There is no good high tier hybrid armor and allowing players to have something like that is a good way to help people learn weapon/style switching mid fight for stuff.

[@jayjayx5x1]

uhhh.... god wars 2... Sliske armor... is hybrid t80/85 (85 if upgraded) :| And you get the bonus of effects of existing hybrid sets if owned, (divine shield/surge and tuska's might). meaning you get the full 5 piece benefits of either of those 3, with only 3 t80 or t85 hyrbid armour, so you can put w/e boots and gloves on. (there be a reason the t80 variant of the chest is 40m). Just that it isn't really... well needed. Since style switching afaik at least, tends to be used for a single use or two, and not enough to warrant downgrading your dps with one style to buff the other given you mainly use the one style.

[@cheekyjebus5559]

Good video. One minor detail to keep in mind is that the higher rank of power armour you use the more often a boss will splash/entirely miss you when taking a swipe at you (depends on the boss of course). That might not be a big deal to some people but it can make a lot of fights feel less overwhelming.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

It helps a little yeah

[@Zoykzmc]

@@ProtoxxGaming Helps a lot, the difference in damage taken at vorago between virtus and e tect is very noticeable

[@benjiboy1337]

Once you factor in survivability, I sincirely doubt it's correct to let your armor lag more than 20 tiers at any given time (i.e. you don't really want to use a nox scythe with dragon armor - better to move up to Bandos). Unless you're just really good with the combat system and can no-food everything, I guess, but in that case you're probably not the target audience of this guide.

[@cheekyjebus5559]

200% rax is a good threshold for t70 armour vs t90, you get hit so much more often in t70 armour and spooder splashes on you more with higher tier. That was the place I first noticed that difference

[@JamesBlakeAV]

Yeah it’s like he acted as if survivability simply wasn’t a factor when making this video though lol

[@hazyviper4612]

I refuse to buy elite sirenic as I'm holding out for a ranged 'set bonus' armour like tmw, havoc, crypt, etc... *huffs copium*

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Same! :(

[@Alic_R1]

Next thing you'll recommend tier 1 offhands

[@ProtoxxGaming]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGWvnZinpb2Lqrs ;) close enough

[@DreamArctica66]

Laughs in cryptbloom :)

[@laser8550]

Accuracy and not splashing are severely understated Masterwork can be made if you are willing to spend time, otherwise if only gp matters and you think selling the bars is more profitable, just do combat instead (and maybe herblore)

[@mahaok1]

Yeah absolutely you learn this lesson the hard way in old school when u get a single hit every 2-3 seconds haha

[@mahaok1]

Finally coming back to rs3 from osrs, the damage calculation is so much more interesting in rs3 whereas in old school it can feel frustratingly luck based at times because its so simple. Getting any power armour set is great advice because from what i understand power armour offers more damage whereas tank armour does offer a tiny bit of damage reduction but mostly a higher "dodge chance" so ironically the best defense in runescape has always been just kill the enemy faster so it has less hit chances against you lol

[@Hirokey123]

So it doesn't just offer damage reduction, and it's actually pretty notable damage reduction, it also offers a boost to your HP. That being said most tank armor has special properties to it that make it stand out from simple matter of accessibility to actual special effects. The problem with tank armor in the past is that raw DPS with Soul split and stuff could let you out heal to the point defense basically wasn't a thing. Magic armor got the spell buff animate dead which drastically increases the tankiness though so magic tank armor under that spell ultimately provides such high defensive capability that it's a lot more accessible for people who aren't good at DPS rotations for healing.

[@piegumplays9059]

me how made master armor my self: u can BUY THEM?

[@LazyBandicoot]

Since Sirenic is so cheap right now - do you think that would be an exception if I'm going from T80 to T90?

[@bosstweed3303]

Sirenic is probably the best value armor in game rn

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Yes since it is cheap u might as well. Assuming you already have ur overloads and t90s n all that?

[@MickTheRus]

I bought anima core of seren when it was about same price as subjugation, now got seismic wand and orb and still rocking that thing

[@quilusy7503]

Title is about armour but barely any comment on survivability and all about damage and kill times? you won't kill anything if you die...

[@EhBitTV]

I just bought the vestments of havoc and made the dark shard of leng (with the dark ice sliver). My arch Glacor HM kill times have gone up so much compared to my masterwork with Scythe.. although I haven’t perked my new gear yet, it SHOULD be faster though, right? 😂

[@ProtoxxGaming]

I've yet to get my hands on that armour set but i've seen and heard good things from it in Group PvM. The extra zerk time is huge. What are you doing not perking your gear?! D:

[@EhBitTV]

@@ProtoxxGaming can’t decide if I want to take my perks off my old gear, or make new ones. Especially since that gear will still be useful

[@jaihalai7674]

@@EhBitTV Save up for fresh perks on the new glass canon set as trimmed masterwork is much more useful at Elite Dungeon due to the bleed effect and the high damaging trash mobs

[@EVILalwaysDIES]

My friend has been getting slower kill times with the new armor but i pointed out maybe its his armor level, and it clicked for him that his masterwork trimmed was level 20 and proccing more often so now he is trying to get his havoc to level 20 to have a proper experiment.

[@EhBitTV]

@@EVILalwaysDIES yea I’m currently working on leveling it up, same my MW is 20

[@catosama7097]

armour vid but you dont say anything about armour, thats miss leading. why not say that better armour gives you better defence so you eat less allowing you to do more dps. what gear do you use? the best im guessing but why you dont use bandos

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Armour bonus simply doesnt benefit u much at all. I shouldve mentioned why More dps = the best defence. Faster kills is less damage taken

[@kazkas000]

but protox, i have the money to switch from trimmed mw to vestments including perks, also zuks' blade doesn't satisfy me and i want to try lengs. Can't you make an exception for me?

[@E79eternal]

Needed this! Thanks protoxx, making the best of my funds now😆🙌

[@agentcaesar6892]

Great video! I think it would also be really interesting to see an armour/gear maintenance cost video, including augmented variants. I think something like this could also help people make decisions about gear purchases/is it worth having multiple armour sets

[@ProtoxxGaming]

I have one like that actually! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGa4XmCFgairZs0

[@DarthChosen]

i always tell people "weapons over armor all day" the more dps/faster you kill the less likely you are to need armor and food. however this isnt always the best thing to do. if youre using t85-90 weapons but still have bandos and cant get a kill, its not unreasonable to upgrade to base masterwork. however people do need to understand that if you are well versed in abilities and the mechanics of a boss you can do most bosses in gwd1 armors and nex armors. (just a quick note, if you turn on only flurry at glacor you can sit in the middle and never have to move)

[@typerightseesight]

I quit back when ports came out basically because I couldn't afford anything and just recently came back and tested out a bunch because you can basically make 100m an hour at nex if you wanted to.. Anyway. I tested sirenic verse death lotus. And imo. The damage reduction bonus is so much nicer than the damage bonus I have decided to go with death lotus. also, tested it in duelling with a friend and won 9/10. nobodies used tank armor while ranging. and everyone will tell you its garbage. but, its literally turned my gwd2 trips from 1 kill to 5+

[@typerightseesight]

And so. I completely disagree with this video. Good day. lol.

[@typerightseesight]

Especially, for when you need to literally run through an enemy to get to the other side for flanking and the double snipe ability.

[@typerightseesight]

If you can't tell the difference. Go get some tempest gear and listen up. To the walls around you if you must. lol.

[@DanVWeller]

I like the way you say ‘content’

[@bosstweed3303]

Good points, but it's worth mentioning that better armor is not about faster kills at bosses you have mastered. It is helpful when learning a boss you're struggling to finish without dying.

[@janitorizamped]

Generally speaking, you'll have an easier time surviving if you upgrade your weapon first. The best way to reduce damage is to do more damage. Faster kill times not only means fewer attacks, it usually also means fewer mechanics

[@bucknerbob5]

so it is better to run around with tier 80 armour with tier 90 weapon? just making sure i got that right

[@damzeni1]

Hello, back into RS3 after not playing for several years. What is the highest tier non degradable armor for melee, range, and magic? Thanks!

[@tylerfountain5884]

I love these videos. The breakdown is superb.

[@Sandwich0artist]

I will forge masterwork from scratch like a chad

[@NHZC]

Whats a solid set for some that has 99s in combat but doesnt take the game too seriously? No PK or super high end pvm

[@simaopacheco4529]

Gotta admit that pubg promo is on the spot, similar to runescape elements, good work

[@foqsi_]

How do you do your calculations? I've been learning C++ in school, and think it'd be a fun project to write programs for your calculations.

[@denlimwolf]

Excellent video! Thanks for the insight, my guy.

[@Legolas_IsRs]

You compared 50 to 60 60 to 70 etc Whats the straight number difference between 50 jump straight to 90? That would show the total increase while it only shows the little numbers between each tier

[@Legolas_IsRs]

For example Hold on to 50 gear until 70.. Or 80 etc Optimal upgrade times rather than just each tier

[@SoIThinkImAGamer]

Just sold all my tier 90 power gear to buy my first tier 95 weapon. I hope it pays off!

[@Basillic]

First thought when reading this title: *Once I get my Drygore MH I'm getting my trimmed, custom-fitted masterwork armour!* I only do bossing (Reaper), ED and slayer with it anyways so no degration and maxed smithing, I intend to craft it myself completely the only downside would be masterwork to custom fit trimmed masterwork if i prioritise skilling offhands and brooch before it which i likely will since im mostly a skiller

[@biomwalk]

might as well skip tmw and get vestments

[@Basillic]

@@biomwalk No Vestments is a lot pricier, i'm going for budget and is more glasscannon which is bad for me since im still learning some bosses

[@1992Kingofyoutubable]

Wish you told me this last year before I bought elite t92 armors..

[@WaltCronkite]

You purchased yourself some expensive cosmetics, friend.

[@dvgolf9915]

Why to buy dps armor over tank armor when u just said that armor has literally no dmg increase?

[@True_Camo]

What is the increase from T90 weapons to T92 weapons?

[@ekeloyekelo1734]

2% dps/accuracy

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Naked increase from T90 wep to T92 (with both weapons perked with precise 6/Equilibrium 4) = 35.5 more damage with cleave (+1.67%) Geared increase from T90 wep to T92 (with both weapons perked with precise 6/Equilibrium 4, trimmed masterwork, t95 curses on, overload on) = 32 more damage with cleave (+1.08%) This is just the damage increase. Accuracy is also increased by ~2% (resulting in more hits on bosses)

[@StyIoire]

If you're in PVME, there's also a command !weapon that shows all the differences (100% accuracy will be assumed, so it's pure damage difference)

[@MrYega-zq7rz]

I have a superior zuriel staff (T88). I was thinking if I should buy Nox staff or buy cryptbloom gloves/boots to use for survivability with animate the dead. I'm not rich on RS so just trying to maximize what I got. I would use gloves with T90 tectonic that I aleready have.

[@kollinpoindexter8859]

See if you can afford the t85 wand and orc from helwyr and the concentrated blast ability codex. Then buy a full set of ganodermic for animate dead, and you will be able to clear most solo bosses

[@Jaru-kun]

Wait, people only buy Armour for dps upgrades‽ not for, you know, defence purposes?

[@NavyNube]

Could you do a comparison on ring/neck slots as well? your vids are always super helpful and save me time/money keep it up!

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Great suggestion! Not sure when i'll make it but i'll list it down

[@g00gly0eyes]

I feel kinda nooby wearing virtus and pernix still, but running the numbers, upgrading to elite tectonic and sirenic just isn't worth the cost. It should be seen as an upgrade path sort of deal, value per money, and upgrading armor is usually very late on that path.

[@harb37]

I think the economy properly reflects that people put less importance on armor than they do weaponry.

[@araxximatthewp293]

Welcome back am having diet coke instead of a cupnof tea if that's okay 😄😂

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Its the diet version so yes :)

[@courageousmelon5654]

Laughs in ironman: you guys are buying armour?

[@TheEsparoba3]

getting TMW is far out a much bigger upgrade and help than going from T85 to T90+ weapons IMO, less banking trips negate the loss in kill time from not upgrading weapons, and the amount of food saved long term and the fact it doesn't degrade in slayer/reaper tasks and in ED's makes it one of the most valuable upgrades one can do for melee and IMO should be bought asap. this single armour upgrade has carried me so much more than any weapon upgrade has ever done and it has helped me improve in pvm so so much

[@janitorizamped]

How does tmw reduce banking?

[@TheEsparoba3]

@@janitorizamped due to the bleed effect it's far easier to keep your health up thanks to soul split, meaning that you'll consume far less food, less food consumed means that you'll have to restock far less

[@texcrash9953]

I am a main account, but I like to Ironman some upgrades. I’m happy to run around in virtus and pernix while I grind ed1/2 for elite sets. But as for melee, is trimmed mw worth it over regular? I feel like the bleed effect might be just to keep my noob ass alive as I try to learn rotations.

[@Geo-Media]

I'm using subjugation armor, is it worth it to upgrade to anima core seren ?

[@ProtoxxGaming]

U can but its a minimal upgrade. Weapon upgrades first are more important

[@Geo-Media]

@ProtoxxGaming I did weapon upgrades to cywir wand and virtus book. So was just curious if to go the seren route. Thanks

[@abolfazlashrafizadeh]

Most players buy armor over weapons because their problem is dying and they just aren't that good at dps. Most players buy better armor for the damage reduction not the damage bonus

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Its a noobtrap though, the damage decrease is minimal and will just cause more issues

[@carlost856]

You get better times in t50 than I do in t90 at glacor. I need to review my rotation.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

D: I was AFKing too. Check my dps for beginners vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/anukhKOkmd5-l5I&ab_channel=Protoxx

[@Themusicbiz]

Everyone saying this isn’t good or helpful must be under 12. Thanks for the video!

[@jaihalai7674]

Just got a leng piece and sold some upgraded gauntlets so will definitely NOT be upgrading my armour and instead put it towards weapon upgrades and perks

[@maddragon00]

Yes we all know weapons are more important to upgrade first and tank armor excluding mage is not very good. However it seams like he is trying to crash armor prices what he didn't say was how much less damage you will be taking in higher gear

[@janitorizamped]

Lmao

[@javierhuizar4207]

Instructions unclear, using FSoA and Elite Tectonic to kill giant mole.

[@returnedrs]

I thought dps was more important, isn't that why most people stick with amour that doesn't degrade?

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Degrade costs are so minimal you should not worry about them. Besides you'll be augmenting your gear and using divine charge but the benefits you gain are so high compared to the "running costs". Edit: All high tier gear degrades

[@returnedrs]

@@ProtoxxGaming thanks for the tip.

[@Bribickhed6]

I’ve never used any RuneScape armour in pvm or bossing. The armour of Christ has always protected me.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

LOL :P

[@TheeNoobPolice]

Buy crypt, changed my rs life, changed how I can do end game bosses with ease, and changed my perspective that you dont need to follow the rs meta of players yelping at you to wear dps armour when you will get the kill regardless, aka, how zammy is approached with crypt...hint hint...a tank armour.

[@ahuehuehue4147]

"Welcome to Runescape." :D

[@slaydsoul2966]

Protoxx merching bronze armours

[@abir1125]

Offense is key, but what about defense? The only perk that comes to mind that helps with defense is enhanced devoted. Also, I watched your one defense pure video and leveling up defense was shown to be important.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Offence is the best defence man

[@B1gbleu]

How do I become a channel member

[@ProtoxxGaming]

By clicking the join button :) (if you want to support the channel)

[@mikeboy337]

hmm, sirenic may definitely be better than Pernix, but in the case of cost effectiveness with sirenic turning to dust and Pernix not, I'd just stick with Pernix for easier bosses / Slayer.. unless I'm missing something.

[@bosstweed3303]

Augment sirenic and then you dont lose the perks when it degrades.

[@mikeboy337]

@@bosstweed3303 yeah but you still lose the armour in of itself, making it useless. I'll just take the one that doesn't degrade and not lose anything over the one that does and lose like 50m, or however much it cost

[@Hozagen]

Vestments of Havoc is the exception, it really boosts your damage

[@eatmorvegetal3444]

Nothing is a waste of money if you really want it.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

I mean technically true but its better to make good choices

[@yoitsJoe2]

i saw a guy with cywir duel weilds and full cryptbloom armour lol

[@bosstweed3303]

Thats not even a bad set up. Probably do hm zuk flawless in that

[@SCH292]

Lol. This was me YEARS AGO.... Me. Superior Port armor should be given new and better effect. Not some crappy "has a chance to loot port resources". I suggest superior port armor should allow us to use defensive abilities without the need of a shield or defenders. Port armor are suppose to be TANK ARMOR and one way to increase their roleplay is to give them better effect. It's not gonna be OP since a lot of defensive abilities are already nerfed because of Legacy players crying 24/7 that EOC is too OP and even if you attach invention perks to these current nerfed abilities it's not gonna be OP either. Expert 1. I never played player owned port and I'm sure as hell not going to waste 6 months doing it. The only combat I do is slayer. I'm gonna dislike and don't support. Expert 2. No support! This will cause the market price like Malevolent, Vengeful and Merciless shield prices to crash! It will also crash T90 power armor! Expert 3. Tank armor are meant to be tank armor. They are not suppose to have OP effects! Game breaking. (Fast forward to this time) Cryptbloom armor. Hold my beer! Let me show you what's OP. Expert 1, 2 and 3. Omg! This armor is the best! I love it! I'm gonna orgasm! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Me in this time. What? So what I said YEARS AGO was too OP and game breaking? Cryptbloom seems to be even more OP and now you guys are orgasm 24/7.

[@NorthernStrider]

but how can I deal more damage if I'm dead, sometimes players choose to upgrade armor for the defensive stats

[@paulvictor7489]

Pretty sure people use armour.... for defence.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Offence is the best defence

[@aaronw-arrior9974]

Pretty good video. I usually stop getting gear past t80 until I get bored enough or sirenic when on the main. However. Youre missing a key point which you mentioned in your explination of cryptbloom. Upgrading your armor wont help your damage however it will cause monsters to splash more which can be good or bad. For example kerapac or raksha I might want to opt for higher tier armor incase i mess up and can get that extra splash chance. Where as at seiryu i might opt for lower defence to make use of his breath to keep juicing the relic easy as possible. Also anyone learning and having trouble would easily benefit from the def bonus.. Ie: learning rax, sure you can easily learn in lets say lunar. But upgrading to ahrims alone will help out a lot more even without animate to the normal person specially with minions. Another good case is PvP as tank armour has great damage reduction for PvP. But yeah mixing the 2 is always a good option too get best of both worlds kinds

[@ripwildy2022]

what PvP?

[@aaronw-arrior9974]

@@ripwildy2022 quite a bit of people enjoy PvP its just not as mainstream cause you dont profit but it is for sure a lot of fun. Actually working on potentially getting some tournaments up soon as I get done having fun with my iron. Might use fresh start to either make a new PvP account or if I can in time would love to use it somehow but oh well. But yeah the people who enjoy it are super into it and its more than youde otherwise think

[@ripwildy2022]

@@aaronw-arrior9974 my dude, close to 90% of the pkers in the warbands and wyrms community have stopped coming into the wildy since the update. some of them even quit the game entirely. unless you’re talking about the w18/legacy pking community, Jagex has sadly killed pvp in rs3.

[@janitorizamped]

He didn't miss that point tho, he clearly explained that in the video.

[@aaronw-arrior9974]

@@ripwildy2022 nope, don't mean legacy or edge nubs. I mean people who actually enjoy pvp. But yeah rs3 pvp requires too much knowledge about how to use cb well. Why most people don't partake, but either way it's a good time. Just stuck on mobile atm or ide offer some fun duels to ya all, got a few fun pvp builds 😆, sum tank, 1 defer,, void pure, and destroyer tank currently

[@kipo8454]

Man I've had this argument before with my friends before and they still never believed me... like why the fuck would I spend an outrageous amount of money just to upgrade some boots or gloves when it makes literally no difference unless you're trying maybe a boss with some super high enrage mechanic? I've heard a part of the argument though which I'm not sure if I can argue is that if you are able to do +1% more damage, that's theoretically +1 kill per 100 kills added, since runescape is #forever that would hit you hard after 10,000 kills+ and such especially on non-boss monsters like Ascension creatures where people are getting 200k+ kills.

[@salmonjason4470]

if anything you should link this video to another video that has revo raksha. which game changes like 20-40% of mainstream mid-tier L138pvmers. I love you so much for that and then some other stuff man. lol.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

In that revo raksha vid I mention bandos kinda working :P (instead of Masterwork) I assume you mean I should link this video in the description of that video?

[@terminusest9179]

My theory to the jump from tier 50 to tier 60 being huge is probably because dragon used to be pretty much obtained from bossing and was the main gear that those bosses probably were balanced around. You used to need it to probably do gwd1 way back. I guess try to compare the older bosses stats vs dragon or something and see if the theory is a bit right lol. Gear below tier 60 is generally more centred around tank IMO over power.

[@boxingodric]

It's kinda just common sense. Armor upgrades are for taking less damage, weapons are for dealing damage. Just buy what matches how you want to play. Still not certain why this topic needs to constantly be brought up.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

It's not common sense for everyone as you might see in the comments. You take less damage by dealing more damage

[@ramonestefano]

I understand, but I'll continue to do it cuz I find it fun.

[@dippinoutfool]

yea except when you bring seasingers to vorago....

[@sadmiqoxiv]

just get 99 smithing, right. best armor in the game.

[@ryangentry2003]

I watched a video on RS’s channel, so t remember which one, and they mentioned how Masterwork armor was supposed to be a merch item, but most people seem to make it themselves. I’m a member of that club. Why a hundred million gold on something I can do myself across a few days

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Don't you mean tradable instead of merch item?

[@ryangentry2003]

@@ProtoxxGaming I’m bad at remembering, I think it was the economy talk video where it was briefly mentioned, and I can’t remember exactly what was said, but that was my impression.

[@caliconfirmed3984]

I used Superior boy I'm able to afford tier 92 melee armor

[@callumeaston9732]

advert is 1:20 secs long... 1/6th of your content for this video is an advert.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Gotta pay the bills

[@Foster3000]

Going up to to92 gear is last on my list.

[@tomfr9073]

key takeaways 5. stop buying armour upgrades

[@decro3177]

I don't understand these videos.. People say any upgrade is an upgrade... others say upgrades are bad? upgrades are so minimual in this game other than a massive staff or bow upgrade from the new ones.. other than that.. it's all min.

[@death2hope]

I'm a ironman I'm gonna use what I get.

[@Rom3TV]

Hey, since I'm a bit early, any chance you could include ironmen a bit more in the content you post, mainly guides and any content reviews you do. Your videos are probably the highest quality ones out of rs3 youtube so it's a shame big portion is left out

[@ProtoxxGaming]

as I don't play ironman mode I'd feel a little out of place covering certain things other than occasionally mentioning the odd ironman thing in a video. In this videos case (as le ironman) you'd probably want to calculate how long it takes you to get X item (or make it) and see how much damage increase it provides, before making your decision. It's similar but instead of thinking in GP you think in hours I guess.

[@ShinobiVIPER]

Ironman accounts can still smash content and unlocks. Bummed into a guy yesterday that’s Ironman and set to comp before my main 😳

[@Dhw997]

Its the exact same as a normal account besides selling and trading

[@ronlivingstone1634]

This is why I don't want to buy tectonic nor sirenic

[@Nerdextrous]

I can kill Arch Glacor with T50?? Lol

[@death2hope]

Perked armor is way good also tho.

[@torn999]

Lmaoooo u said don’t wear tank armor!?!? That’s all you wear is crypt.

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Did you even watch the video?

[@ShinobiVIPER]

If we’re talking cheap, I got my masterwork (not trimmed) armour for free, made it from scratch 💪

[@g.waits4gainz205]

cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers~ ive 10000% aleways know that the tier of my gear doesnt matter except that the tier of my play skill is such dogshit that nothing cna save me hahaha but thanksssssssssssss t90s are my life blood 10000% nothing special nothing switches just gonna work on perks if i play again im happy af. but mannnnnn anything better def helps fix my bad skill like the hilarity of afking vindy these days LOL