Nah he should be proud if goku has to even move in general
@realizedpotential664011 ай бұрын
Times 2 to make him feel better right?
@MZOver11 ай бұрын
“Stand Proud. You might beat my newborn son”
@daishaunholmes229811 ай бұрын
Kaioken lmao isn't that overkill he can barely handle the base form better send kid Goku 🤣
@sado831011 ай бұрын
not if he kills him using his ki force in base
@shandaniel299911 ай бұрын
“Throughout the heaven and the earth, I am totally fucked.” -Gojo
@gpavitra8511 ай бұрын
This 😂
@YngNgaHisoka11 ай бұрын
Nga yo name Daniel do not talk bout getting fucked😂😂😂
@amo313911 ай бұрын
😂
@Thesigmaone74711 ай бұрын
Gojo after seeing Goku's eye's/hair turn silver after he uses unlimited void on him
@Donald_the_biggmac_crusader11 ай бұрын
NAH, I'D WIN.
@MZOver11 ай бұрын
Goku: Punches Gojo: Has infinity shattered, meets Geto in the airport Geto: How was Son Goku? Thanks for the likes guys!
@gymshorts110111 ай бұрын
How does he shattee infinity?
@Jsipki26511 ай бұрын
@@gymshorts1101 His ki like many others can affect space time or scale to [people who can affect space time.
@Paul_Frank11 ай бұрын
@doubletapp1335 Since the Buu saga, people have been able to, with just yelling, shatter space time to escape the room of spirit and time by creating a hole in it. Then Buuhan has a move where by powering up, he starts to collapse the entire macrocosm into itself
@ajtheallmighty11 ай бұрын
so did you just have the video on mute or just ignore the whole video tf xD@@gymshorts1101
@realizedpotential664011 ай бұрын
@@Paul_Frankfacts, even Goku against Hit is shattering his pocket dimension with his speed/punches alone. Then there's the whole Beerus clash, shaking the world of void which is comprises of infinite nothingness, etc. Goku's power alone negates Gojo's hax and then Gojo would die in a hit.
@jareton6 ай бұрын
“Stand proud Gojo. You are strong” -Yamcha
@E356-sq4cw5 ай бұрын
Yesnt
@dachidachidonadze19945 ай бұрын
i can prove thats right yamcha will solo his verse watch dragon ball og
@abdullahkurashi21355 ай бұрын
@@dachidachidonadze1994 if gojo dont have limitless and infinity then maybe
@mookiestewart37765 ай бұрын
@@abdullahkurashi2135dragonball characters ki nullifies all hax when strong enough, this has been shown several times in dragonball
@abdullahkurashi21355 ай бұрын
@@mookiestewart3776 but we have to know limitless is part of his physical ability. Although yamcha can use ki blast which can create shockwave and atomic level destruction so limitless wont be able to witstand multuple ki blast. So yamcha win
@UN-TXLD11 ай бұрын
I really don’t even understand how this became a debate😂
@sixfromtokyo11 ай бұрын
JJK fans have a bad habit of putting their characters against people that are simply too strong.
@yspy_180111 ай бұрын
because ppl are obsessed with Goku losing a vs battle so they put any char with some kind of broken ability against him. And then cry and call ppl fanboys because Goku wins
@jibril247311 ай бұрын
@@yspy_1801 facts
@saadsami886011 ай бұрын
@@yspy_1801fr
@Kavewolf198911 ай бұрын
It's kind of an honor being a character that the fandom deems worthy of getting one shot by Goku.
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin478011 ай бұрын
Goku: *Punches* Gojo: "It doesn't work, it's like there's a limitless void between us." Goku: *Punches again* Gojo: *Explodes* Gojo: "What the heck, there was a limitless void between us!" Goku: "You've already shown me that move before. It won't work on me again." Gojo: "That makes literally NO SENSE!" Goku: "Neither does your move..."
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
So Goku went to the airport to have this conversation with Gojo?
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin478011 ай бұрын
@@yeikelamores6085 It's not like he doesn't know a technique which lets him literally do that
@rifarira916011 ай бұрын
tbf, gojo so weak i doubt goku can sense him to it to the airport @@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780
@Shitposting_IHMN9 ай бұрын
no one is debating this, gojo just wins, just like deku
@sinicule9 ай бұрын
@tutaj_zostan whatever your having I don’t want it, gojo and deku does no scratch to goku
@demonmoonx999311 ай бұрын
I mean, Infinity is a OP technique, but it kinda becomes irrelevant against somone who can tank a multiverse to the face.
@GSSAGE711 ай бұрын
Goku's durability is irrelevant. Infinity isn't an offensive ability, it's a defensive one.
@6Angello111 ай бұрын
@GSSAGE7 goku has inf speed and he bypassed timeskip so jts useless
@jayb23511 ай бұрын
we talking about the same dude that got capped in an and also died in an earlier timeline from a disease ?
@Kacper-jw3bv11 ай бұрын
@@jayb235yup i mean like a gazilion Times weaker version of him but when gokus off guard he can get killed by many things even bullets sometimes hurt him and then he also tanks multiverse destroying attacks whiteout any problem in base thats goku for you
@he_who_has_no_name11 ай бұрын
@@jayb235db logic. You can be an infinitely powerful 92nd dimensional being, and die from a bullet if your off gaurd. Also, why would you count viruses against him? Anyone could die from something like that.
@The_newkingofgames6 ай бұрын
"Stand proud satoru, you made me use 1% of my power" -chi chi
@Tave5106 ай бұрын
bahahahaha
@bobnrobplush6 ай бұрын
Chi chi is shown with kaioken, so this checks out
@SkyRider48155 ай бұрын
Chichi is literally the strongest person without using ki tho
@Amartin-mu6oj5 ай бұрын
@@bobnrobplush chi chi is not shown with kaioken, it's just a red aura for gags
@Observe-h1t5 ай бұрын
@@SkyRider4815 thats mr Satan position, the guy actually solid martial artist that can held on his own against any non-ki users
@Errxor_11 ай бұрын
“Stand proud gojo, you managed to make me use one ki blast”
@Gomm-ey10 ай бұрын
Goku: pan go play with him 💯 Gojo:💀⚰️
@901GRIMKILLA9 ай бұрын
@@Gomm-ey this had me rolling, nah imagine he sent arale 💀💀😂😂
@Shitposting_IHMN9 ай бұрын
no one is debating this, gojo just wins, just like deku
@901GRIMKILLA9 ай бұрын
@@Shitposting_IHMN your joking
@Shitposting_IHMN9 ай бұрын
@@901GRIMKILLA you're* coping
@arisingvoiceforuslordofcha801311 ай бұрын
Gojo:"nah I'd win." Goku:"you sure?"
@kylewilson200411 ай бұрын
Goku: “You were truly magnificent, Gojo Satoru. I’ll never forget you until I start eating dinner tonight.”
@batmanga.383411 ай бұрын
@@kylewilson2004 had me dying XDDDDDDDDD
@amo313911 ай бұрын
😂
@kookkook247611 ай бұрын
Goku : Stand proud gojo, you are strong.
@saulicereza11 ай бұрын
"Would you lose" Yes.
@ayushmanchatterjee872111 ай бұрын
Itadori:What happened?? Gojo:Idk .....he just flared up his aura..........
@istaka141611 ай бұрын
Lmao 😭
@theperfectbeing76511 ай бұрын
I don't get it he doesn't even make it to that point
@user-qj4px6ob4y11 ай бұрын
Itadori: What actually happened?? Gojo: He breathed..
@theperfectbeing76511 ай бұрын
@@user-qj4px6ob4y I still don't get it
@ayushmanchatterjee872111 ай бұрын
@@user-qj4px6ob4y biblically accurate crossverse battle (in this case)
@Mouchoo7 ай бұрын
“Stand proud Satoru. You made Krilin fight seriously”
@vincentchamberlain1072 ай бұрын
I mean maybe dbz krillin sure. Dbs krillin blinks him away
@aimerylmat248611 ай бұрын
Anyone that claims to be the “strongest” has to run by the Goku fade
@user-zl3wf3ex6d11 ай бұрын
Goku isn't even the strongest.
@RongDMemer9 ай бұрын
Strongest shoenen mc@@user-zl3wf3ex6d
@901GRIMKILLA9 ай бұрын
@@user-zl3wf3ex6d he is
@jax38459 ай бұрын
@@user-zl3wf3ex6dyeah goku in power scaling is kind of like the wall that separates the fodder from the strong
@user-zl3wf3ex6d9 ай бұрын
@jax3845 🤨 No, he's not. Goku is brought up by Gokufans every time there's a strong character. Goku gets beaten by a lot of people.
@tunekas0111 ай бұрын
I can't even believe this is a topic, after what Sukuna did to infinity, do people even think Goku can't one punch him into the airport? 🤣
@NMbones9811 ай бұрын
Airport??? Try sending his @$$ packing to the dead zone.
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
@@NMbones98I imagine the scene, Goku and Gojo start fighting, Goku throws a punch and the next thing he knows, Enma is sending him to heaven.
@Runner-Boy11 ай бұрын
@@yeikelamores6085Gokus arura would beat him before his fist lands
@whosurjustin11 ай бұрын
Yeah, usually six cooks but this aint it. It's not even a debate, let alone an 18 min discussion
@minismallists11 ай бұрын
@@NMbones98😐
@kazeguy886911 ай бұрын
"Coughing Baby Vs Hydrogen Bomb" ahh debate
@koocoocroc123511 ай бұрын
lol
@qua_xor334810 ай бұрын
Hydrogen baby vs coughing bomb type debate. Due to how gojo works
@jinxed-truly8 ай бұрын
@@qua_xor3348 my brain exploded reading this sentence and now i'm thinking about how a hydrogen baby would look, and how a coughing bomb would work does a hydrogen baby just combust on touch?? does a coughing bomb make explosions everytime it coughs???
@Shitposting_IHMN8 ай бұрын
He went to hell too late, created the middest if not one of the worst things, that somehow got popular (even you know it plague). Calling him father of shonen is insult to shonen even considering that its a sheet magazine. DB never deserved what it got. And Akira was never good at anything related to story telling,/writing (Where went his mind reading power went, tails got retconned because he forgot about them, zenkai boots dont exist, and why not just keep nearly perish just to be healed to solve any problem, I dont think gohan or trunk have an ego problem to resolve problems this way + way more), and comedy (haha girl under 18 wearing playboy outfit). Db was mid, DBZ somehow got worse, DBS tried to repair the mess this "franchise" is and failed, only making 1 good character (zamasu). And the manga is just "look he wished to be the strongest, but he still isnt", which shows how many problems could be solved by saying "shenron, make _ stop existing". Btw name any femalre characters that you cant describe "wife/girl of _" Except for those 2 sayains that got their backs tingly. And maybe if they were relevant to the actual story, that would be nice :p. Do you remember the that Akira said that goku isnt a bad person, but isnt a good guy? Do you remeber how it had potential about goku not being evil but going rogue to pursue his evil intentions? Or how about berus growing stronger, with no explanation.
@kazeguy88698 ай бұрын
@@Shitposting_IHMN So we just being pieces of shit for no reason huh? Tails didn't get retconned, Toriyama removed them to make it easier to draw his characters Zenkai Boosts still exist they were very prominent in the Goku Black Arc. Zenkai Boosts are not always a game winner, we literally see Vegeta get beat up after getting a Zenkai Boost in the Namek Arc, that was the WHOLE point. Just because you don't think Gohan has an ego problem doesn't mean he actually doesn't. It just means you never paid attention to the story and was just watching for the big flashing lights and big strong men punching eachother. Trunks doesn't have an ego problem Shenron can only kill people weaker than it's creator that's established in the fucking Saiyan Saga. So no problems cannot be solved by telling Shenron "make _ stop existing". The wishes to be stronger came with a price, the point was to show off the power of actually training for your strength Vados, Marcarita, Launch... It's really not that hard to mention female characters in DB who are not in relationships. You have a problem with female characters getting married or having relationships? If you trying say female characters are irrelevant in DB you are sadly mistaken. Bulma is quite literally THE most important character in DB No I don't remember because it never fucking existed. Goku never had evil intentions otherwise he would have been damaged by the devilmight beam which can draw out any evil in your heart and use it to damage. If Goku had evil intentions he wouldn't be able to ride the Nimbus cloud. Father of Shounen is not disrespectful considering a bunch of mangakas with popular animes and mangas have come out publicly to say Toriyama was an inspiration (Kishimoto - Naruto, Tite Kubo - Bleach, Oda - One Piece and so many more) hell Bleach wouldn't of even existed if Toriyama never told Kubo to try again and put in a good word for him Can you not see a trend here? All of your "points/arguments" are just you not paying attention to the story or being a piece of shit. So before you decide to slander get your fucking facts straight otherwise you will look like an idiot shouting nonsense.
@justsomerandomspaghetti8 ай бұрын
"stand proud gojo, you're worth 1.2 saibamen"
@yeikelamores60858 ай бұрын
Goku doesn't know the Saibaman, it would be 1.2 Raditz
@jestyo0o6 ай бұрын
@silurus1962I mean yamcha can beat more than 2 saibamen, the saibamen only won because of a sneak attack
@hecker32596 ай бұрын
@@yeikelamores6085 nah not even 1.2 raditz, way too powerful for gojo
@NightbaconsRulerofthenig-yx8mm6 ай бұрын
Bro 1.2 sqibermen is 1.2 radix soo gojo has the power lv of 1400 lool
@I_H_M_N6 ай бұрын
I just proved gojo beats goku
@loganhanna192511 ай бұрын
Something worth pointing out, regular humans are capable of surviving Infinite Void so long as they aren't exposed to it for more than .2 seconds. With how fast goku is that is actually an INCREDIBLY long amount of time. Frankly goku is so fast that i honestly wonder if he would be inside the domain long enough to actually be effected by it
@justarandompepe896111 ай бұрын
good point. also, goku isn't a human and even if he was, he sure as shit isn't a regular one. no way in hell is infinite void killing him in .2 seconds with how strong his body is.
@LumiKattlin11 ай бұрын
@@justarandompepe8961 He would technically be considered a regular one since he doesn't have cursed energy, infinite void hits harder on those who don't have it.
@deividymario240811 ай бұрын
@@LumiKattlinBut then you must consider how the energies of each universe apply against each other, if they even do. If Ki can somehow act as a barrier against Cursed Energy and their related attacks/powers, then it's not even close to a fight. Goku would only take attacks if he is 100% caught off guard, or relaxed, we have examples of this in the series. But if he knows he is gonna fight, sure he won't use like... 10k power level worth of ki, expecially if Cursed Energy can be sensed like Ki is, he will at least use the same amount as Gojo has.
@froggie61011 ай бұрын
This is rather consistent with what the guy explained Infinite Void to be. As the first instance of thought comes at about those speeds, faster or slower given the cognitive power of the individual in mind.
@l-playz694511 ай бұрын
If you remember afterwards, the humans were still absolutely baked, needing months to even function normally again. And it was only inside Gojo's mind that he made the split-second thought of 0.2s being the limit a human can withstand
@jarom114411 ай бұрын
It's laughable people even thought Gojo had any feasible chance, especially after losing to sukuna.
@riocolpaert11 ай бұрын
I'll say this, the only reason why sukuna won was cause he had megumis ten shadows technique, and sukuna only won cause he copied mahoragas adaption
@Colors8211 ай бұрын
@@riocolpaert heian sukuna could've used domain amplification inside their domains so that gojo can't defeat him in 3 minutes, then kill gojo after gojo nosebleeds since he'd never be hit by IV. Gojo himself said sukuna took the hard way and we see multiple times its because sukuna doesn't just want to beat gojo but also beat limitless and improve as a sorcerer. I can't believe people are still saying this especially with the new information from these past few chapters
@Zee_Raho11 ай бұрын
Fr
@Zee_Raho11 ай бұрын
@@riocolpaertnah gojo copers
@riocolpaert11 ай бұрын
@Colors82 it's been shown that he has access to his own abilities while within a host, if he had thought it would have worked he would have done so
@PapasDaNerd5 ай бұрын
“Stand proud gojo, you’re strong” -Bulma
@Jinglethealmighty5 ай бұрын
LOL
@LoLmp44 ай бұрын
Fun fact: domain expansion only works on anime characters in jjk, why? No other verse has cursed energy, example, toji has no cursed energy, so he cant get effected by domain expansion, so any character that is outside of jjk is immune to domain expansion.
@VladRadu-tq1pg4 ай бұрын
@@LoLmp4 thats cap and not a fact at all lol
@soup66104 ай бұрын
@LoLmp4 you got a point
@kiattim21004 ай бұрын
@@LoLmp4Except Sukuna's domain. Which can target anything even without CE.
@joshuafrazier390411 ай бұрын
Are people still arguing this? I figured were far enough into JJK that people have stopped overhyping Gojo by now.
@sixfromtokyo11 ай бұрын
Nope
@bignoob272611 ай бұрын
I'm just surprised that jjk fans r not throwing slurs in the comments Dude's can't explain jjk mechanics but will burn u at the stake if you say Gojo won't "no diff" any fictional character that gets compared to him
@fbafoundationalbuck-broken601111 ай бұрын
@@sixfromtokyo Goku beating infinity: 1)Goku can seal gojo with mafuba.... Goku wins... 2) Goku can hakai past infinity, ex Zeno can hakai things based on bio signature without harming the surroundings..... 3)Goku can summon Zeno... nuff said 4)Goku can teleport Kamehameha past infinity as it locks onto bio signatures and teleports him there... 5) Goku has telekinesis and can stop multiversal beings like Moro and block attacks and levitate opponents with just his mind like with Granolah.... 6) Goku can encase infinity with god bind allowing him to lock Gojo in place for all eternity AND then cut off his air supply by teleporting him under the ocean or he can cut off his air supply by encasing him in ki like in the hands of Goku's avatar until he suffocates LIKE Gara encasing someone in sand.... Goku beats limitless: 1) Goku can teleport out of limitless as he can teleport past different dimensions, like the afterlife 2) Goku can move outside the range of a domain expansion faster than gojo can encapsulate him into a domain expansion.. 3) Hakai destroys domain expansions
@ahmadkazan547311 ай бұрын
They're arguing sakuna beats goku now
@rifarira916011 ай бұрын
oh wow. sukuna barely get pass purple in his strongest state yet, while goku able to tank hakai (albeit a weak version) in his base form while off guard. @@ahmadkazan5473
@xBrandon88811 ай бұрын
If Gojo is having nosebleeds just from casting domains, that kinda erases the whole "Gojo has infinite stamina" argument. If he uses too much CE he clearly suffer pain or die outright. The amount of force that Goku would put on Gojo's infinity would probably just cause Gojo to either drop infinity or for his brain to explode.
@alexandergonstas666011 ай бұрын
he was nosebleeding because of domain spamming not ce output
@darthgames311 ай бұрын
@@alexandergonstas6660Yeah but the reason why domain expansion spamming made him nosebleed is because of the high CE output.
@alexandergonstas666011 ай бұрын
@@darthgames3 nah it's because after a domain your ct is on cooldown but gojo used reverse cursed technique to heal his cooldown but that destroys your brain reread the chapter you'll see
@ahmadkazan547311 ай бұрын
His nosebled was because he focused too much on renewing his technique instead of healing his body,not stamina issues,it it was then that's one more thing gege is compromising because he wrote himself into a corner.And force has nothing to do with infinity?Infinity shows down attacks infinitely the user doesn't even counter the force of an attack the force goku output is irrelevant unless it has like immeasurable speed and he has other easier ways to counter infinity.
@xBrandon88811 ай бұрын
@@ahmadkazan5473 he has finite cursed energy output and stamina; which is why he has to focus on renewing his CT in opposition to doing other things. Jamari who has infinite CE in jackpot, heals automatically. Gojo has clear limits and limited CE. Force/power and speed are directly related to velocity. That’s middle school science fam.
@SavageRush01211 ай бұрын
You know Goku is a bad mamajama when every other shonen protagonist is immediately compared to him to see if they'd stand a chance.
@nerdtom451311 ай бұрын
Ikr its not even DBZ fans fault, it's the fault of that particular anime fanbase that starts comparing their fav anime character of the show to Goku lol
@shirosatsuma494611 ай бұрын
Are you Smug ? lmao
@SavageRush01211 ай бұрын
@@shirosatsuma4946 Am I smug?
@shirosatsuma494611 ай бұрын
@@SavageRush012 Smug, the guy that says bad mamajama
@SavageRush01211 ай бұрын
@@shirosatsuma4946 That makes zero sense but okay.
@MediocreGameplay.4 ай бұрын
“Stand proud gojo you made me move” -yamcha
@KurNorock11 ай бұрын
Also, goku's instant transmission works by him passing his body through a parallel dimension.
@maravreloaded11 ай бұрын
Idk where you got that. That's from Naruto.
@scanbbb11 ай бұрын
what?? no... goku's instant transmission is simply teleporting to locations he's been before by using ki. it's teleportation, and simply teleportation, which is instant. as far as i remember, there are no dimensions in dragon ball and the most would be timelines and universes.
@KurNorock11 ай бұрын
@@scanbbb the hyperbolic time chamber is an extra dimension. And yes, instant transmission is goku traveling through a parallel dimension. It's been explained.
@KurNorock11 ай бұрын
@@maravreloaded goku explained how instant transmission works in the broly movie. And since that is the only explanation for the technique, it's the default explanation until something else comes along.
@l-playz694511 ай бұрын
@@scanbbb I distinctly remember a time of goku saying that his particles have to dismiss into light, or something like that back when he first got the technique
@Salman.khan78611 ай бұрын
When a new OP character comes out and gets the “can he beat Goku” treatment, it says a lot about Goku. If I was an OP character no way in Hell am I gonna fight the guy that’s set the damn Bar for Strength 😂
@rifarira916011 ай бұрын
make me wonder why they never did it to superman, like, isnt that guy is far stronger than Goku?
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
@@rifarira9160yes but it's because Goku has a annoying fan base and they always compare Goku to everyone superman fans are not like that
@geokashi35711 ай бұрын
@@doriankamanzi6874 nah goku haters are the most annoying superman is gay that's why no one compares him
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
@@geokashi357 I feel like your a Gokutard with that responses because dragon ball has been agreed to have the worst fan base so no Goku meat riders compare him to everything superman is not compared since he has feats to prove why he can do things
@oniwolfin958911 ай бұрын
@@rifarira9160 Probably due to Goku being somewhat interesting, while superman has about as much flavor as stale bread.
@piccoloatburgerking11 ай бұрын
One thing people keep forgetting is the insane speed difference between them. Regardless of what ability gojo has his brain still operates slightly above a human scale of speed. Dragon Ball characters have been fighting faster than light speed since before Z. By now they're so fast there's not even a point in trying to quantify it anymore (Goku flying through hell in finite time even tho it's an infinite dimension) so Goku can reach gojo even before gojo knows Goku exists. And even if he could react to Goku's speed his ability will still get shattered by Goku's natural aura since we know he can generate power well beyond the universal scale. This whole debate makes 0 sense given the massive stats difference.
@rifarira916011 ай бұрын
at this point the only popular chara that deserve to be compared to goku is Superman.
@greed86411 ай бұрын
@@rifarira9160superman stomps goku, milkman man is above concepts, this isnt even mentioning the "idea of superman". Even if you were to disregard these conceptual feats, superman still scales to multiversal feats, boomtube superman's size alone is above the entire multiverse of dragonball.
@geokashi35711 ай бұрын
@@greed864 nah superman loses cause he's gay
@CarlosVasquez-fn1sy11 ай бұрын
@@geokashi357gay Superman slaps any day
@soulbreaker62511 ай бұрын
@@greed864this is insanely stupid as there's multiple supes and multiple gokus now. And a good amount of supes lose to Gokus. There's only a few who can do shit and even there they're basically fearless, ie superman prime or 1 million whatever the hell his name is.
@Thorfin093 ай бұрын
"stand proud gojo. you made me move 1 centimeter" - baby bulma
@isaiahcontreras176111 ай бұрын
i love your videos, you not only fully explain what would theoretically happen, but more importantly why and how it would go down. so many people just be saying stuff without thinking about it or are so emotionally charged that they don't think logically.
@sixfromtokyo11 ай бұрын
Thanks lol
@PalomaCoco9 ай бұрын
perforza
@guilha150611 ай бұрын
Kusekabe explains domain amplification better in chapter 225, he states that the user covers himself in a domain without a technique, which allows the enemy’s technique to flow into this empty space. So Domain Amplification power null is more like putting the enemy’s technique somewhere else than nullifying it with sheer power. Gojo increasing the output of Infinity likely made infinity to big to fit in the “empty space” of the disaster curses.
@claudebataille771911 ай бұрын
Exactly. No one just hits him with a really strong attack with output that bypasses Gojo’s low output limitless. Domains displace the technique so he’s vulnerable. Goku bodies Gojo, but he’d need to get creative with Ki to do it.
@sixfromtokyo11 ай бұрын
Well tbf I don't think this debunks the argument I think it's just also included because the power null can be overpowered by strengthening a cursed technique. The empty space is likely the water like domain that covers the body.
@elpopman205511 ай бұрын
@@sixfromtokyoChi Chi would Wreck Gojo
@yspy_180111 ай бұрын
@@elpopman2055 No she wouldn't.... your exagerating noe
@nerdtom451311 ай бұрын
@@yspy_1801 I think he meant meme Chi Chi because meme Chi Chi is stronger than Goku himself being his wife.
@glutton7sin67211 ай бұрын
JJK fans got to realize that in the db universe, you have to be stronger than your opponent in order for your hacks to work.
@Xahnel9 ай бұрын
Well, no, that's Ki and natural alien abilities, like bioelectricity and psychic powers. Techniques that are magic (or effectively magic) still work regardless of the power difference. It's more a matter of "does this character have the imagination and depth of power to no sell this technique". For example, Goku vs Hit, Goku is spending his power to force himself forward in the time skip. But on Namek, Guldo's time stop worked on everyone, including his own teammates, even though they were stronger than him. As another example, Majin Buu possesses the magical power to transmute things into other things. But Vegito was so powerful that even when transformed into a candy ball, he was fully aware, capable of using his Ki, and continued kicking Buu's bouncy ass. Babidi's Majin mark was magical, and was effectively a slave brand, forcing anyone with evil in their heart to serve him, yet Vegeta was able to take the power up without becoming a mind slave. Magic _does work_ , there is just a certain threshold beyond which pure physical power can overcome magic.
@valentinvas64549 ай бұрын
Even if Gojo's hacks were working most DB characers, even those far weaker than current Goku, could just destroy the whole planet under Gojo then it's GG. And then there is Jiren who was so fast and strong that he was literally beyond time. You know when Hit supposedly freezed time around him but he still managed to move.
@gogetablue9428 ай бұрын
Guldo fans stay winning
@mibromibro27798 ай бұрын
@@gogetablue942 Guldo is just him fr fr
@aerosolic8 ай бұрын
@@Xahnelso stronger *in terms of Ki*
@infinitypowergaming29955 ай бұрын
"Stand proud gojo, you've made me use my tounge" mercenary tao
@baonemogomotsi713811 ай бұрын
Gojo and Sukuna were literally going at it blow for blow, ain't no way he's hanging with Goku
@jackaboynaylor927311 ай бұрын
'Think of infinity as a finite barrier with the ability to divide infinitely.' My man gets it!
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
Ye way to many act like it's automatically infinit it only has the potential to be infinit
@pree7611 ай бұрын
I was rewatching the buu saga and Buuhan just screaming/powering up had to be stopped because Goku said he would tear apart the reality of their entire universe. Power scalers never talk about this feat but its absolutely fucking nuts that happened considering how weak buuhan is in current dragon ball.
@deathitself698511 ай бұрын
I also remember SSj3 Gotenks flying around the earth like multiple times in a flash. SSj3 gotenks ripped a whole into another dimension when they got trapped in the time chamber. Vegito trolling Buu even after being turned into candy.
@Kacper-jw3bv11 ай бұрын
@@deathitself6985 well that speed feat is weak since at this point they should have been like infiniteley faster thanigh and this was about lightspeed feat so idk
@dattos14011 ай бұрын
to be fair... it IS filler.
@pree7611 ай бұрын
@dattos140 It appears in OG and kai and has an official name I'm taking it 🤷♂️ plus with kid buu being universal- multiversal it makes sense buuhan can do something insane like that being significantly stronger than kid buu
@dattos14011 ай бұрын
@@pree76 Yeah, but most people prefer to use the manga canon over the anime canon, you can use whatever you want tho.
@MexicanMeijin8 ай бұрын
This man saved us a death battle video
@AK-zi2rg8 ай бұрын
Given how those people hate DB I would say this was a blessing.
@anthonyhenry379611 ай бұрын
I've always imagined that if Goku punched Gojo hard enough, he would just liquify inside his own infinite for a fraction of a second before the barrier collapses. If he can shake the entire universe with a punch, infinite might as well not be there.
@l-playz694511 ай бұрын
The entire universe is a finite space, just extremely large. Gojo's infinity isn't a finite amount of space
@thelonesurvivor395511 ай бұрын
@@l-playz6945 Jiren shook the infinite world of void by walking,Goku is currently beyond that feat.
@diqo836111 ай бұрын
@@l-playz6945dragon ball universe is an infinite machrocosm, not finite like jjk verse. Buuhan was threatening to collapse the entire INFINITE dragon ball universe, and current Goku scales billions of times higher. This isn't a debate, Goku negs
@DECIMATOR6910 ай бұрын
@@l-playz6945it isnt bruh -.-
@welkingd288210 ай бұрын
@l-playz6945 idk if you knew this but the universe is actually infinite 😱😱😱😱
@retrox64games11 ай бұрын
Goku farts and Gojo is vaporized like cell was when gohan obliterated him. lmao
@itsdiamond51286 ай бұрын
lol i know this is a joke but if he is kaioken he can probably do that
@CJExtreme9811 ай бұрын
An uncomplicated explanation of how this fight would go and why. Awesome
@generalowen43448 ай бұрын
Nothing is funnier to me than comparing an OP character to Goku, when Goku himself is not even the strongest in his damn show.
@yeikelamores60858 ай бұрын
And they always use a fairly weak version of Goku, as there are at least 15 stronger versions of Goku
@daddy_Ryoto4 ай бұрын
yeah hes not the strongest but more weaker characters can shove gojos glasses down his throat. (piccolo, trunks, yamcha, kid trunks, goten and ect.) so goku is basically not needed
@gunnerfiner83614 ай бұрын
@@daddy_Ryoto Dont forget Chi Chi! She was very close to the same power level as someone who blew up the moon last we saw, so she could prob just nuke the floor with a punch and kill him that way. Which reminds me of Goku's easiest way to win. Just blow up the earth, or the solar system, or the galaxy, or the Universe. Gojo cant survive in space
@daddy_Ryoto4 ай бұрын
@gunnerfiner8361 he can but wouldnt. plus i dont think goku can survive in space either but even without blowing the planet up he would still fuck gojo up in 10 seconds.
@gunnerfiner83614 ай бұрын
@@daddy_Ryoto Wdym he wouldnt. We are looking at character stats and powers vs a different character stats and powers. And Goku 100% can survive in space. He fought Berus in space, and has fought other people in space. He can at least hold his breath for 1 second, which is more then enough time to teleport away.
@jackooooooooo11 ай бұрын
do gojo vs gojo next
@GothamThotSlayer11 ай бұрын
Nah he'd win
@Weaver1-s4k11 ай бұрын
@@GothamThotSlayerwell, I think actually Gojo wins, not Gojo
@Elite_editz70211 ай бұрын
Yeah I think gojo beats gojo because gojo has more abilities than gojo and gojo is gojo without the fact that gojo Vs gojo gojo would win
@TonioQuo711 ай бұрын
Go vs Jo
@oyintandomagazi628911 ай бұрын
@@TonioQuo7the ultimate battle for his lower half
@Atercor-kx8hs11 ай бұрын
> Infinite Void could fry Goku's brain Bold of you to assume he has one...
@dettahart561411 ай бұрын
😅😅😂
@Finalslashes11 ай бұрын
+ ui he doesn’t need a brain to fight
@nerdtom451311 ай бұрын
Battle IQ goes brrrrr
@sanadye186111 ай бұрын
He can instinctively fight without thinking lmao, infinite void doesn’t even matter.
@puffersfish429611 ай бұрын
@@sanadye1861 Isn't ultra instinct moving to dodge without thinking. Not attacking because the technique is used by angels who don't attack.
@entropyOTD10 ай бұрын
I think the most interesting thing about these two meeting is just imagining Gojo's reaction to someone like Goku. A non-curse energy "human" who is overwhelmingly stronger than he is, I think Gojo would actually be ecstatic to meet someone like Goku to an absolutely wholesome extent.... Who isn't like Toji.
@xCorvus7x4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Toji's murderous attitude spoils it.
@SchwarzieKun7 ай бұрын
There is literally 0 fucking way Gojo can remotely challenge goku
@TheTotallyNormalPotatoGuy3 ай бұрын
Get gojo past emperor pilaf 💀
@Velanestar11 ай бұрын
The idea that Gojo would even be able to perceive/react to gokus fighting speed is....and interesting take and i would LOVE whatever whomever thinks that is smoking.
@shirosatsuma494611 ай бұрын
How many punches can goku land before Gojo's heart beats even once? I'd love to see someone calculate a number
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
It all depends on Goku's character and how hard he is trying.
@RandomSkull42011 ай бұрын
Depends, how many punches can Goku throw in 0.8 seconds?
@shirosatsuma494611 ай бұрын
@@RandomSkull420 probably infinite
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
@@RandomSkull420 I could throw one or a trillion, it all depends on how Goku feels at that moment.
@paulocaputo903811 ай бұрын
if he could bypass infinity kkkkkkk
@spoon779711 ай бұрын
I was looking for a video to edge to, much appreciated 🙏
@sixfromtokyo11 ай бұрын
Aye man let's work to be better!
@Marx80s9 ай бұрын
We must be better men. 😔
@zacharybosley19355 ай бұрын
The idea of the perception-blitz is a topic that has meat to me, but ultimately a lot of these debates boil down to fanboys throwing their faves at each other without really engaging with the mechanics of any abilities
@mxcn15211 ай бұрын
At 9:40, the reason gojo's purple hit himself could just be that the infinity didn't recognize it as an attack or harmful since it's made of his own CE.
@instrumentalist129411 ай бұрын
Purple would break through infinity anyway because it's an imaginary number.
@JAGER_435 ай бұрын
@@instrumentalist1294its virtual not imaginary
@Ryuji_Editz11 ай бұрын
Another reason Limitless simply doesn't work is because Goku crossed the dragon ball hell (which is said to be infinite in size) in a finite amount of time so he would straight up just punch Gojo.
@DomiEE11 ай бұрын
Given how things played out with gojo and sukuna goku shouldn’t have any trouble
@pathogermic366211 ай бұрын
sukuna had hax that could bypass infinity. If gojo just straight tries to punch that wont have the same effect as sukuna. It takes hax to bypass another hax
@KurosakiNexus11 ай бұрын
not in db@@pathogermic3662
@anoaboadosaro11 ай бұрын
@@pathogermic3662and in dragon ball, extremely high raw power is a hax on it's own.
@pathogermic366211 ай бұрын
@@anoaboadosaro its not that is just high raw power. Nothing to do with hax. Unless that raw speed of goku reaches anywhere near infinite speed he won't bypass infinity as is. Sukuna could cut the space/world around his infinity and had nothing to do with raw stats. That's why he was able to bypass it.
@anoaboadosaro11 ай бұрын
@@pathogermic3662 dude, they can literally destroy infinite space in dragon ball, even in dragon ball z, Buu could destroy the macrocosm, which is also inifinite. It doesn't matter, Gojo is dead. If Sukuna can cut space, than characters at the end of z Buu saga, can break it just by screaming, Buu did it. Just getting high enough ki is enough to break space itself.
@discorabbit3 ай бұрын
Real talk, the energy blasts of dragonball should be splitting atoms and releasing nuclear explosions
@Deku_23111 ай бұрын
Great explanation! I think another point for Goku is instant transmission. Even if the space between them was infinite since Goku moves through another dimension and exits instantaneously at his destination he could still get close enough to Gojo to deal damage.
@l-playz694511 ай бұрын
His hands won't instantaneously touch Gojo though, he'll only be able to move to him and any attack registered as a threat from then on will not be able to land unless he pulls a bs feat as usual
@Deku_23111 ай бұрын
@@l-playz6945 Why shouldn't he be able to instantly touch him? He moves through a different universe and just emerges right with his fingers around his neck for example. If the distance is 0 Gojos power doesn't work. Even if Goku couldn't assert any force with his fingers Goku could just scorch him from there by releasing ki and creating massive heat. Maybe he could even put part of his body right inside of Gojo killing him instantly (tough Goku never used that, maybe that would hurt him too).
@notme8232Ай бұрын
@@Deku_231 Or he teleports Gojo into space
@meowsquared11 ай бұрын
The big problem with most of the arguments in Gojo's favor is that raw strength in Dragon ball just tends to straight up neg hax. Goku literally showed in the fights with hit that he can straight up bypass extra-dimensional concepts like time and pretty much just force himself into the future or destroy Hit's time barriers just by powering up enough. Even if Gojo's infinity barrier didn't just get nuked by Goku punching himself with incalculable force and in zero time via dragon ball bullshit, Goku could reasonably just power up so much that Gojo's infinity just stops affecting him entirely. We've seen it happen so often in dragon ball that it's more likely to happen that way than not. Good example being Buu, who showed that he could consistently just regen from attacks and didn't even feel pain or discomfort from physical blows, but the moment he got put up against someone significantly stronger than him, his regen got slowed down significantly and physical blows were able to deal visible damage to his body. That's just one of many examples In all reality, a fight between Goku and Gojo would involve Goku instantly blitzing him and breaking through his infinity, then somehow negging Gojo's unlimited void by powering up enough to just smash through the barrier on the spot. Even the sure-hit unlimited information would probably just get negged in a similar fashion, with Goku somehow having some kind of passive barrier that slows down the information transfer enough that it can't overwhelm him. For some people (namely jjk fans) that might seem like I'm just pulling it out of my ass, but in dragon ball, raw strength consistently beats hax with like, zero explanation other than just "he's stronger teehee".
@rifarira916011 ай бұрын
assuming Ki enchance your physical prowess, both inside and outside, then i dont see how goku cannot tank infinite information long enough to stop gojo from doing it. i mean, isnt that the reason why goku condition getting worsen when fighting android 20? transforming to ssj make his heart beat more faster thus making the virus spread much faster. implying that the stronger your form the better your physical prowess become. Oh yeah, we even have much recent example for that. First is when gohan fighting one of the trio wolf where he got hit with poison, if i remember correctly goku said its dangerous for gohan to stay in ssj cuz its help spread the poison faster. another much much more recent example is during super hero movie where piccolo(or gohan i forgor) said that gohan eye sight is scale to his power. the stronger he became the better his eye sight become. so, assuming the physical capability of them have the same scalling as their power level in general than Goku brain would be infinitely much more durable than a normal human.
@meowsquared11 ай бұрын
@@rifarira9160 A fair point. Plus in namek Saga Goku straight up reads Krillin's mind of all of the events since they last saw each other within the span of like a second and is completely fine. So it stands to reason that Goku should be able to process massive amounts of information far quicker and with far less risk of overload. If he's held there indefinitely, he'll EVENTUALLY start to suffer for it, but I think an in character Goku is gonna be smart enough to realize the danger and break through Gojo's domain the instant the sure hit begins.
@thatoneguy60359 ай бұрын
Ppt
@-S4T9 ай бұрын
So basically you're saying that goku is strong because he is strong ah yes 😂
@rifarira91608 ай бұрын
@@-S4T*Goku win because he's stronger*
@tuber4205 ай бұрын
Can't even say Gojo is stronger than Goku by any metric because Kid Goku was already moon+ to small-planetary by the time King Piccolo rolled around, he would lose to Jackie Chun in the 1st tournament too ..
@timaeustanis3592 ай бұрын
"You're really strong, you made me use all of my power" - Yamcha
@garbarkdarak542711 ай бұрын
I'd argue that if Goku is in a "powered up state" the barrier for the Infinity Void would not be able to close since the amount of ki goku releases is just too much, the barriers for the domains have greater durability from the inside but that doesn't mean it's indestructible and I don't think it'd be able to confine the sheer amount of ki released during something like SS3.
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
But Goku won't be able to power up or move his brain will be to busy drying while Goku can only think about powering up but never doing it
@garbarkdarak542711 ай бұрын
@@doriankamanzi6874 In my scenario he is already in a powered up state, my point would be if he gets to a powered up state before before the domain comes into play, Gojo might end up out of options since his domain, unlike Sukuna's, uses a barrier to form. Who knows, maybe ki can pass through the barrier without an issue, I'm just pointing out some possibilities.
@crimson506711 ай бұрын
@@doriankamanzi6874 How would it fry gokus brain though? I don't think you realize that goku has been ftl since the start of Z. What that means, is, his brain has to be advanced enough to keep up with his body. .2 seconds of gojos domain being half a years worth of information means nothing to goku.
@eddydominguez890810 ай бұрын
That actually makes it worse as infinite void loops all info you've processed in your life. Without resistance, Goku cooked here, the debate isn't on if infinite void beats if it lands@@crimson5067
@theosouris70638 ай бұрын
INSTANT TRANSMISSION INSTANT TRANSMISSION HE COULD JUST USE INSTANT TRANSMISSION
@zelz301111 ай бұрын
Wow you still made this video unique and interesting somehow
@PooPooDoggoАй бұрын
"Please, Base Cabba I NEED THIS!" -Gojo
@tiltedxfn363511 ай бұрын
Good video, also remember that goku has access to god ki in his god forms, and we know only gods can sense beings with god ki, or beings with god ki can only sense others with god ki, gojo and the unlimited void would not be able to sense goku, therefore the affects would not register to goku. Because unlimited void cannot sense beings without cursed energy, like maki or toji, also doesn't affect inanimate objects either. So the domain would not register goku's energy and basically treat him as inanimate, so it's useless. Another point, goku can I.T on to other people, his incomplete hakai does not travel either, and turns you to dust. This isn't a fight.
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
Ye but gojo has shown he can sense beings that should not be able to be sense aka toji no cursed energy and yet gojo as a child sensed him and Toji was surprised on how so gojo would still be able to sense him
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
And for the unlimited void thing that's very debatable but remember domains don't go of the users sense it's cursed energy it's self so the domain would still sense Goku it dosent aplie by the same rules as normal beings do it's the power system it's self not to mention Goku would have to go into blue or god for that which I don't think he would do it's either ultra instinct or super sayian really
@tiltedxfn363511 ай бұрын
@@doriankamanzi6874 No, domains cant sense cursed energy it cant detect, and since goku doesn't have normal ki, he would go undetectable, ad gojo noticing tojis presence doesnt mean he sensed his cursed energy.
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
@@tiltedxfn3635 why would you say they can't sense cursed energy they can't detect as we have seen ever domain but sukunas acts on its own and if it attacks it will attack on its own regardless of what the user wants not once have we seen a domain not effect anyone they could not sense besides maki domain expasion act on there own accord and sense on there own accord they don't use the user or nowbito could do something or at least force it to attack maki
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
@@tiltedxfn3635 don't know how you can say they can't sense cursed energy the user can't when that has never been shown once
@yipotaku143411 ай бұрын
17:06 that part was hilarious 😂
@obsessedwiththegreatness9 ай бұрын
Bro, if someone's whole basis for an argument is one technique/skill, chances are, they should not be arguing.
@-S4T9 ай бұрын
I still dont understand how goku bypasses infinity like with which technique cuz all the bros in the comment said was that goku is strong and shit but not an actual technique or at least an attack that nullifies any defensive power, like the soul splitting sword that cut through infinity or the plot armor technique which sukuna haven't used since the heian era
@rifarira91608 ай бұрын
@@-S4TUniverse is infinite (atleast in DBVerse), and one of DB villain, Super Buu, able to tear it apart just by screaming. Goku right now is infinitely more stronger than Super Buu, which mean he can easily over power infinity barrier and destroy it with simple raw punch to the face no need for fancy technique. Even if he cant destroy infinte barrier, Goku can just punch the dimension space around Gojo and break it, which will affect Gojo just like how Sukuna dimension slash affect gojo. another example of Goku interacting with infinite concept is Goku shaking the infinite void with just powering up. If goku powering up shake the infinte void, which shouldnt be able to be shaken to begin with, then infinite barrier is an easy piece.
@obsessedwiththegreatness8 ай бұрын
@@-S4T I'm gonna say this as simply as possible. No disrespect, but Gojo isn't special. Spatial manipulation is something common in DBZ, like the other commenter said. Goku's weakest punch can easily tear through space and reality, and even if people wanted to give Gojo that benefit and say he couldn't Goku would just learn how, he has way higher battle I.Q, learning capabilities and overall abilities than Sukuna, would not take Goku long.
@Iceflowfaygo7 ай бұрын
@@-S4T Also goku has recently advanced his ultra instinct to the point that he can use it with his other forms. So he doesn’t even need to be in mui to attack gojo within infinite void. Even his base form will be a serious threat.
@-S4T7 ай бұрын
@natereacts312 gojo has infinity on all the time but ik goku slams, you still did not answer my question 😐
@agenti47343 ай бұрын
My personal thought about getting around Infinity is to use more concentrated attacks. Domain amplification produces a dense Cursed Energy shield around the user so it's enough to affect limitless. Think about it this way, if I throw like 50 pieces of wood at an iron bar, the iron is not likely to break. But if I throw a tungsten cube of the same weight, the iron would dent. So its about the potency and density of Cursed Energy crushing Infinity.
@Dezcv11 ай бұрын
DB characters are just ridiculously strong 😂
@breexy719011 ай бұрын
yep
@gogetablue790510 ай бұрын
Of course, Dragon Ball Verse is one of the strongest in Anime verse. Not the absolute strongest but one of the. I'm proud of it xD
@dildomaniaca8 ай бұрын
@@gogetablue7905and one of the few which actually have good writing
@bananawithpajamas63796 ай бұрын
@@gogetablue7905yes
@Emanuele-hn4ky4 ай бұрын
It can be the strongest or one of the strongest. If we talk about fighting, it can be one of the strongest, but angels like grand peiest can solo every other anime universe. If we talk about destruction...we have Zeno that can destroy entire universes by raising his hand@gogetablue7905
@ryanwilliams120711 ай бұрын
Also goku has recently advanced his ultra instinct to the point that he can use it with his other forms. So he doesn’t even need to be in mui to attack gojo within infinite void. Even his base form will be a serious threat. Goku will still have serious brain damage after the attack but gojo will be at the airport explaining to geto how crazy goku was.
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
I don't even think UV affects Goku at all, Goku's combat speed is simply very great
@jasontchoudjen974011 ай бұрын
Serious brain damage? Gojo's attacks are doing nothing to Goku at all.
@bullettime111611 ай бұрын
@@jasontchoudjen9740 nah his domain would definitely give him brain dmg, but nothing more
@rifarira916011 ай бұрын
unless goku can strenghten/protect his brain from direct injury using his Ki then it for sure will deal damage if goku not in UI. then again, tui seems like a technique that active whenever goku in a fight. @@jasontchoudjen9740
@uiaris777011 ай бұрын
@@bullettime1116 goku is faster than light dude. after his sentence repeated 3 times hed know he has to activate ui to get out of it. i dont think hell get any brain damage from it. plus gojo wouldnt be able to even activate it on time cuz goku would speed blitz him in less than a second lol
@TheTotallyNormalPotatoGuy3 ай бұрын
“Stand proud gojo, you are strong.” - Farmer with a shotgun
@A.S.T.R.AC.O.D5 ай бұрын
The fact you just broke down shit my collage professor can’t explain clearly is insane
@Psyxho_yru3 ай бұрын
"Stand proud gojo, you've died twice"
@lorddinkdink89379 ай бұрын
The funny thing is once goku hears theres a space between us he would probably just use instant transmission, goku can sense life energy and gojo is right in front of him giving off a lot of energy and instant transmission is well instant so he would just go straight through it then punch him, wouldnt even need to power up
@Fuegoaries11 ай бұрын
Can’t believe bro had to make a vid on it but W💯
@justinelledge3269 ай бұрын
As much as I hate all the "Goku vs _____" debates, I appreciate that you actually proved your statements here, rather than just spouting hypotheticals.
@FOF27511 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to have a video listing characters that can get past limitless or just no diff Gojo regardless since he keeps getting high balled all the time
@ghoullyman11 ай бұрын
I wish that they would stop putting him against other anime characters and actually put him againist the originals like marvel ,dc etc if such a “OP” character . If goku can go against super man put gojo against someone like the flash to really scale if we talking about characters who are basically untouchable.
@buttermanaws469311 ай бұрын
My take before watching this is that Gojo is definitely weaker in everything and for Goku it more comes down to if he could hit him and the unlimited void and if we assume Goku can hit Gojo then it comes down to does Goku just blits him in base or does Gojo get an unlimited void off. Forms for Goku don't matter as the base is already so strong that it's not worth mentioning Honestly it's a dumb fun argument that lost the fun factor due to people being overly zealous about it Edit: ok I finished watching a d yeah I agree with the stuff said, there is very little more to say as Six went into the finer details of my thoughts, though leading that UI may get around the one win condition I have Gojo is funny to me.
@dianne865411 ай бұрын
Domain expansions doesnt work on people with no cursed energy (disregarding sukuna)
@Kavewolf198911 ай бұрын
Any character that can destroy earth and survive afterwords wins against gojo.
@zyofroma571811 ай бұрын
@@dianne8654 stop spreading misinformation, gojo's domain works against people with 0 cursed energy. it just doesnt apply the sure hit effect to people with HEAVENLY RESTRICTION. And goku doesnt have that.
@somethingsomewhere6611 ай бұрын
@zyofroma5718 Can you prove the first part? People with heavenly restrictions have no cursed energy, which is precisely why domains don't work on them.
@pree7611 ай бұрын
@@zyofroma5718 You're actually entirely wrong. If you dont equalize the verses, goku has 0 cursed energy. The heavenly restriction users are unaffected because of the exact same thing 0 cursed energy. It's why domains dont work on inanimate objects. This is explained when Sukuna's domain is activated and it describes his as special because it doesn't create a barrier it just manifests in the normal world meaning it hits inanimate objects too
@soulmustdie363111 ай бұрын
“Unless you’re being extremely generous to a point I’d consider bias for Gojo, Goku would win” Flashback to Clothespins’ ‘inaccessible speed, five dimensional’ Gojo scaling 😭
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
The crazy thing is that even with that crazy scale he's not beating DBS Goku
@soulmustdie363111 ай бұрын
@@yeikelamores6085 💯
@Kacper-jw3bv11 ай бұрын
@@yeikelamores6085 if you lowball goku then he could but any other way? Nah not even close
@donkeykong982211 ай бұрын
That was a long time ago tho lmao
@soulmustdie363111 ай бұрын
@@donkeykong9822 tbh I don’t even think he believed that nonsense, him and his community are just anti Goku from what I noticed, had to dip out from his discord server a couple years ago because it was just so toxic 😭
@nickbutler98319 ай бұрын
I like this. It properly shows both sides and not just going "Buh Goku punch god!" Even I agree, the overwhelming power displayed in DBZ currently breaks gojo. Also, I thought infinity void made the target be forced to take in all forms of information
@indexclone813011 ай бұрын
Remember in dbz if you are powerful enough you can literally do anything. Like Vegito becoming a living fighting chocolate ball, super buu breaking out from the room of spirit and time dimesion, ss3 Goteks having sentient ki blasts shaped as ghosts with their form, zamasu taking over the universe, goku mind reading krillin on namek, frieza using the force to air choke krillin and blow him up like a balloon and others, goku able to keep up with a time wizard assasin by using kaioken. Strength just overwhelms everything.
@Korastly11 ай бұрын
vegito go turned into a chocolate cuz of boo magic, but yeah.
@YungTimeWeaver11 ай бұрын
I never take “but can he beat Goku” types seriously
@RongDMemer9 ай бұрын
Its funny
@recycledwaste87375 ай бұрын
What's funny is it's usually not Goku fans who do that. DB haters are just absolutely desperate to have a character that beats Goku for some reason, so they make absurd claims that DB fans then respond to. The "but can he beat Goku" types don't actually exist outside of memes.
@juccifizz11 ай бұрын
this is the equivalent to who would win, a atom bomb or a baby with blue eyes
@isaiahgz92528 ай бұрын
You made a great video by saying goku wins glad you made this good video man i think ill subcribe now
@overweightgerbil674711 ай бұрын
"Stand proud Satarou Gojo, you were in the conversation".
@hotlaseryt11 ай бұрын
Normal people: A A A A A A A A Goku: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
@TrunksTheGoat9 ай бұрын
INTO THE DISTANCE! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT NO WAY WE'LL GIVE IN!
@Iceflowfaygo7 ай бұрын
Also goku has recently advanced his ultra instinct to the point that he can use it with his other forms. So he doesn’t even need to be in mui if u didn't know infinite void dont got shi on goku lo
@UnwantedGhost1-anz2511 ай бұрын
This made my day. Thanks. 🤣
@lebulldog67578 ай бұрын
Honestly. Infinity isn't a barrier in itself it's like a time slower, you never can reach the inside but Goku being Goku, he'll just speed through. As for the Domain Expansion. It doesn't matter wether Goku can survive in, cause Gojo dies before activating it
@Raiden_S1211 ай бұрын
If verse equalization isnt a thing than any non jjk character has their own power along with immunity to domains
@fg009letyrds811 ай бұрын
The 2 energy systems works too differently to be truly equalized, as we know that even with someone like Sukuna who has like 5x more Raw CE compared to Gojo (Yuta has like 3x more CE reserves than Gojo and Sukuna has 2x of Yuta but let's LOWBALL it) and even then, Sukuna is incapable of bypassing Gojo's hax with far higher RAW CE, which wouldn't happen to Ki users as it's been a law in DB that if your Ki is high enough you can ignore the haxes of people who have far lower Ki than you, even moreso with God Ki.
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
That's why we always put it on because Goku won't be able to see any if his attacks or anything
@Ultima113411 ай бұрын
PE is always screwy. Bleach is a good example because obviously they are ghosts and can't even fight regular people. So, ofc you need to at least alter the circumstances to allow the fight to happen in the first place.
@AngryBurds..5 ай бұрын
goku gonna think infinite void is space and will hold his breath😭🙏
@TocattaTotentanzMacabre11 ай бұрын
This video needed to be 4 seconds long. All you had to say was "Goku Solos".
@-S4T9 ай бұрын
Ah yes, what a well constructed argument "goku solos" i think i can not comeback from this instructive two-worded argument totally not bs and absolutely structured
@TocattaTotentanzMacabre9 ай бұрын
@@-S4T Indeed.
@elsensei6667 ай бұрын
@@-S4T its not bullshit, its true lol. If you read both mangas you dont need an explanation. Goku solos.
@-S4T7 ай бұрын
@@elsensei666 never said it was bullshit, infact i totally agree with @Guns66's statement. Therefore i find your reply quite useless as i was not trying to be ironic assuming you thought i wanted and was sarcastic in my first comment
@Krepinio8 ай бұрын
This shouldn't even be a debate topic ✌
@russianbot530211 ай бұрын
Not sure about the infinite void explanation tbh because we know from the 0.2 second domain that only a finite amount of information flows into people's brains per unit time which I assumed is partially why the disaster curses and Sukuna were significantly better off than the regular humans, as they can process more information at a time. By that logic, Goku who is significantly faster and has far higher processing power than even Sukuna should have no issues inside infinite void.
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
I think exactly the same, the faster someone is in combat, the better they should withstand the unlimited vacuum.
@troller98389 ай бұрын
"Infinite Void could fry Goku's brain" He never had much of one to begin with and even if it did fry his brain that'd probably inadvertently activate mastered ultra instinct, maybe even a stronger version of it since he has even less braincells to work with. I think the fastest/easiest way for Goku to beat Gojo would be for Goku to use instant transmission onto Gojo and punch him in the head. GG, Gojo defeated in less then 0.1s. But yeah overall this debate is pretty silly.
@justsomeguywithamustache290111 ай бұрын
Gojo vs aizen in terms of everything Complexity- aizen Well written- gojo Insanely well written-aizen Consistency- aizen Goal- aizen Osts- aizen Popular-both Eyes-gojo Stronger-aizen Save me daddy-gojo Step on me daddy-aizen Carried the franchise-both Aizen is clearly the better character, but I respect and love gojo alot😍
@burp32676 ай бұрын
its a good example of its not just power thats a factor in a fight, but the skills the fighters have
@gunnerfiner83614 ай бұрын
I dont think it matters when Goku can 1 tap the earth, and Gojo cant survive in space at all
@silverslickness9011 ай бұрын
the fact that a character that is like 5 years old can even have a chance against someone who has been getting new powers and strength levels for 40+ years is still insane
@starboy207911 ай бұрын
He doesn’t have a chance
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
And to think that Dbs Goku is among the weakest versions of Goku
@berserker555111 ай бұрын
he doesn't have a chance
@B3an0111 ай бұрын
To be fair they start at very different points gojos introduction he was already the strongest while goku was only bulletproof
@yeikelamores608511 ай бұрын
@@B3an01 That's true, but if we take Z as the beginning and consider DB as Goku's prequel (something like Gojo's past as a student),Goku was already the strongest in the world at that time, at least technically
@LavaCreeperPeople11 ай бұрын
What kind of Gojo fanboy would've requested this fight...
@CaptainLettuce9 ай бұрын
Perfecto and also whilst goku does always size up his opponents....Gojo is still human, so even in base if goku just threw one serious punch and contacted with gojo its over
@vivid54675 ай бұрын
correct me if im wrong of course, but is it not stated that if you’re strong enough, you can break out of a domain expansion?
@yeikelamores60855 ай бұрын
Yes
@totallyanonymous301011 ай бұрын
It’s also hinted by megumi that it’s possible to over power infinity with a strong enough attack (he says this when fighting the old cursed sorcerer dude with yuji when they trying to take down the barrier). I thinks it’s safe to say that goku can do that!
@Fact_Check1211 ай бұрын
Anime fans are just tired of Goku getting W's against other anime characters for over 20 years so they just power scale anyone who can destroy a mountain to goku. They are so desperate that they begin searching light novel and web novels just to find someone that can beat Goku. These characters obviously never stand the test of time in the debate against Goku. I remember many years ago when it was sailor moon, Naruto, etc. Now it is saitama, anos, gojo. Give them time, they will come to their senses like before.
@QWERTY-gp8fd11 ай бұрын
goku was never a strongest character in first place. just most popular one. its not even that hard to find character that can stomp goku. Najimi Ajimu rolfstomps goku as she has 12 quadrillion abilities. essentially god.
@Fact_Check1211 ай бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd Goku has never been the strongest anime character. There are way too many animes for that. He is just stronger than most of the popular anime characters placed against him. People just want their favorite characters to be stronger than him
@QWERTY-gp8fd11 ай бұрын
i dont care about powerscaling. i can write character stupidly op. i cant write "Good" character. he is badly written i dont like it. gojo is better written.@@Fact_Check12
@Fact_Check1211 ай бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd your last comment was about a character that can beat Goku which guess what, is power scaling and you say that you don't care about power scaling. Also, might I ask how gojo is a better written character than Goku. A stupidly OP character who has done nothing of importance in the anime and had zero character development is better written than Goku who has undergone character development over the years, saved the universe multiple times, converted villains to heroes and sacrificed himself for the greater good. We get it, gojo is your favourite character and when he lost the strength battle you went to the writing battle which he will also lose. If you like gojo fine, but don't say Goku is a badly written character.
@QWERTY-gp8fd11 ай бұрын
i said that as a example that its easy to find character that defeats goku. bro did not watch the show. gojo has gone through development from arrogant bastard to little less arrogant non bastard. goku character development is throwing stronger punch after changing his hair color for the 1000th time. gojo actually got "high" from fighting. very realistic if i had magic i would use it to become high. he spouts some enlightment bullsh,it while high i liked and find it very relatable. everytime i do lsd i spout enlightment bullsh,it whenever i throw hands against my shadow. bad trip or good trip that one particular sh,it never changes. goku shows literally nothing aside from the narrative explanation that he loves fight. dude has lower iq than my dog. he bet his universe with just to fight strong dudes. like thats his whole motivation to tournament of power arc. like bruh beerus, whis is there why the hell u need to seek out strong dude for. he becomes stupid as the time goes on. rant over. @@Fact_Check12
@Zytherious587pjcm2 ай бұрын
Even if Gojo’s ability worked on Goku, let’s just admit this, Goku can survive any attack Gojo throws at him! So anyone who believes Gojo can even hurt Goku, they would have to be insane to believe a mere human can even consider killing Goku. But the main factor here is truly UI! Truly a magnificent explanation video my man. Besides, everything you just said is true.
@theghostoftheuchiha199911 ай бұрын
Isnt Ki composed of Emotions as well? Like courage, determination, etc? And doesnt Goku use the Spirit Bomb which is mostly made of Positive Emotions? Finally isnt Cursed Energy just negative emotions? If all of the above is true then cant Goku's technique's already interact with Cursed Energy and Gojo's limitless without crossverse equalization?
@doriankamanzi687411 ай бұрын
You know what ye you are right about that
@randomonlineuser640111 ай бұрын
While Ki can be empowered or drawn from such emotion, ki itself is still it's own life force that each individual character in db has.
@randomonlineuser640111 ай бұрын
Ki can be utilised without emotion but emotion can affect it's power and use. So unless it's a technique/special attack that utilises positive emotion like the spirit bomb you would need to use Verse equalisation.