STOP!! DO NOT Put ANY Cold Air Intakes on Your Crown Victoria P71

[@ValiantThor999]

I put a K & N on my 2007 P71 (without knowing all this) and it wrenched out. I quickly put it back to stock and all is well now. Sure didn't work on mine. I called the tech at K & N and he told me it will not work on Crown Vics with Police Package due to the "tuning" being different.

[@MrRandomReviews]

pretty much everything i said on this video⭐

[@fallenangelbv]

Would it work on a civilian model?

[@Beardshire]

what if it's just the filter with the stock system?

[@chrisiztheman1618]

@@MrRandomReviews Isn't the K&N CAI for the Marauder the correct kit for the p71? The p71 has the bigger diameter MAF tube from the Marauder like you described in this video so it would only make sense to get the K&N kit that was made for the Mercury Marauder, if you wanted a cold air intake system. Just a thought.

[@elbertmarshjr460]

Hey I'm lookin for the "wrench light reason and fixes" video

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Cable throttle = *"physical cable"* Drive by wire = *"electronic sensor"* I own a 2011 P71 and I never touch a thing to boost performance. It has all the stock cop kit to do it itself.

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

2011 CVPI I have upgraded the plenum & TB after getting a AFE CAI. No tune no issues been over a year. Just got headers will require a tune to run properly

[@MrRandomReviews]

CORRECTION...Cable drive stopped in 2004...2005 and up models were all electric throttle controlled

[@NGGPeter]

Lol that wasn't drive by wire bro, that is drive by cable. Drive by wire is electronic throttle, meaning through electrical wires.

[@tiko5876]

Mr Random Reviews seems like you know little about cars lmao.

[@AvidR1]

My 03 P71 is fly by wire

[@anterpants]

@@AvidR1 03 is absolutely not a drive by wire. It's cable driven.

[@AvidR1]

@@anterpants nope, you're absolutely right, I went outside and looked at it right after I said that. Didn't really care to repost, no one seemed to care lol

[@DirtyDanMunicipalMan]

You’ll need a custom tune to accommodate the new intake. Also of note is that the stock intake on the 2004+ P71s flows more then enough air to accommodate even a moderately modified 4.6L.

[@fourthhorseman4531]

This is the correct answer.

[@Riptide886]

@@fourthhorseman4531 yep, cant just throw in a cold air intake and go. You have to reset your system. Unplug your battery overnight. Then you plug it back in and leave it at idle for about 10 minutes. Drive it around town normally. Dont just punch it. The system needs to relearn how to run and accommodate the new air coming in.

[@ag214]

So a police cold intake is good enough?

[@strumminandwrenchin9162]

But will the police intake not kick on a check engine light on a 1998 Crown Vic LX HPP?

[@eriv4735]

strumminandwrenchin9162 Not at all

[@georgelin8498]

Drive by wire is the system with an electronic TB you got your systems mixed up.

[@eriv4735]

People always get these mixed up

[@03mm24]

Exactly...drive by cable is what he needed to say

[@B3burner]

Yeah... I was confused because I remember watching a documentary on the Airbus A380, and the pilots called it a fly by wire system, with electrical impulses to the flight control surfaces... not cables running through the skin of the fuselage to the ailerons, flaps, spoilers, rudder, elevators, throttle, etc. So I’m glad you cleared that up.

[@crazylarryjr]

I always called it cable drive when there is a throttle cable, wire when it's controlled by a motor

[@roadrnr315]

Also its 2005 and up for electronic throttle

[@bbytonybaldwin7653]

I have 2008 interceptor with an aftermarket intake and have had no problems. I bought one for a 96 grand marquis(same 4.6 sohc and throttle body) and adapted the censor after the filter. Runs great and sounds sweet! Smooth idle. The flowmaster super 44s are also a good upgrade...

[@chasechildress2720]

I have a 96 grand mar quis will it go into limp mode and show the wrench light

[@eriv4735]

chasechildress2720 Absolutely not..go for it!!!

[@joyride2013]

"Permanently" tuck in limp mode because of a MAF? You need to find a decent mechanic.

[@eriv4735]

Looks like nextgen is in desperate need of a decent mechanic himself..hey nextgen just because you have the same problems doesn’t mean either of you are right, it just means that neither of you know what you are doing and you need a professional to do it for you 👍

[@ibeprofin]

He didn't relearn the throttle body. This guy is clueless. Cold Air intakes do not harm vehicles. Dumbasses who try to DIY their own cars harm vehicles. Remember this is the same guy who promotes throttle body spacers...

[@alexyoungberg5232]

*The old vic is actually "drive by cable". Wires are for electronics buddy.*

[@MrRandomReviews]

iTs NoT A mOtOr ItS aN EnGiNe.... I see you're one of those people

[@MrRandomReviews]

its not potatoe...its potato

[@MrRandomReviews]

its not tomatoe...its tomato

[@MrRandomReviews]

its not a wire...its a cable

[@alexyoungberg5232]

@@MrRandomReviews lol just trying to help you out bud. But hey.. tomato potato hakuna matata.

[@msmeyersmd8]

Just a recommendation on terminology. Not dogging on you. This was a great video. Drive by “WIRE” means an Electronic Wire. No mechanical connection between the throttle body butterfly opening and the gas pedal. I don’t like it but it’s the “modern way in 90+% of new cars and trucks. The mechanical throttle body connection, with a return spring, that I prefer....even though it’s connected to the gas pedal with an actual wire, is NOT drive by wire. It how most cars worked through the 1980s that had carburetors or TBI. For safety, 2 springs should be used. Especially in modified high HP cars. God forbid the spring breaks. I’ve had it happen several times. Be quick on the ignition off switch or watch the engine grenade in your face. Virtually all modern cars, post mid 1990s, have true “drive by electronic wire” throttles. The pedal in the car has a gear connected to an electronic potentiometer (like the volume control on a stereo amp) that “interprets” what you want the engine to do. This goes through computer software and adjusts to your driving habits and conditions over time. If you drive your grandma’s car you will have to mash it to the floor to get a decent engine response. If you get on it for awhile it will launch you quickly. That is drive by “Electronic” wire. I hope this helps. No disrespect intended at all. Cheers. MM

[@mrjim1973]

Nothing but a bunch of misinformation in this video. Really sad.

[@brianhay2372]

I have been driving with a cold air intake on my 06. I used a hypertech programer and it works great been driving it for 13 months no issues. Just a heads up.

[@joshuastittshall8688]

I'm not worrying about any of that...I'm keeping my 95 Base Vic stock...love it just the way it is.

[@bigggmustang73]

Drive by wire is an electronically controlled throttle.. The older style is called a cable throttle.

[@65bug519]

Just remove the rubber boot that leads to the front of the air box.It gives plenty of cool air from the headlight area.What you have there is a hot air intake.

[@keithbassett4988]

I own a '98 MGM w/the standard 4.6l V8 and the 4R70W overdrive 4 speed electronic automatic transmission. I have had a K&N racing filter in my car since around 2010 (approx 100,000 miles). I chose to just get the replacement filter to keep the underhood aesthetics as stock and simple as possible. Did not like paying the $55 for an air filter at the time but did so anyways. It was most definitely worth it. I check filter every month or so and clean/charge w/new oil about every nine months depending on how many miles I have driven. The difference in performance and mileage were impressive and it seemed like it had more power. I must admit...I also had true dual exhaust installed around the same time. Last summer, I wanted to see if engine would breath even better by increasing air intake. AGAIN, wanting to keep it looking original as possible...I removed bottom half of airbox below air filter. I took a sawsall and trimmed all unnecessary plastic from the housing except edges and bolt holes...leaving underneath exposed for greater air circulation. The factory air intake was just a little air horn up behind driver's headlamp. This made an even bigger increase in hp and idlespeed....haven't noticed a lot of difference in gas mileage....but car runs great and is comming up on 200,000 miles in next month. Love these cars...Simple, but durable and easy to work on and modify.

[@ninline2000]

I looked at installing a cold air intake and after a lot of research I came to the conclusion that unless I had installed massive upgrades on my car, the cold air was a waste of money. The stock system is fine for anything except a race engine.

[@eriv4735]

Not sure where you did your “research” but this is simply untrue 🤷‍♂️

[@MCMinerHQ]

This is true for almost every newer car. Universal intake kits are always going to be trash, you gotta spend the big doll hairs on an intake specifically tailored to your car.

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

AFE makes a CAI tailored to the 98-2011 Crown Victoria didn’t require a tune for me to drive it for a year 😂

[@vipersyl]

NOOOOOO!!! 💪💪💪 I cant believe that man! 😞 what irritates me is that how can a company make such a performance part that would actually choke and harm your vehicle? I would point it out to them! Damn it that sucks!

[@hotrodray6802]

Get a grip. You can buy illegally dark tinted windows too. etc

[@spacepope87]

@@hotrodray6802 Those don't hurt your car...

[@Alwayshasbeengreat]

Haha it won’t harm your car. Mr. random has no idea what he’s taking about. He doesn’t know he needs to tune the car with an intake? And he has a car channel? Haha

[@ocrapo9327]

@@Alwayshasbeengreat He gave good advice.

[@SinisterCity]

I told you back when you were installing the K&N leave it alone. Stock air filter is the best.

[@popeyeandstraussmx4165]

Christian Palado it wouldn't hurt to put a k&n cone filter on its just the cold air intake tube threat messes with it

[@itsjusta2v198]

Popeye and Strauss MX You can buy the same stuff that you get your cast wrapped and when you break your arm and actually wrap it around the tubing of the stock intake and make a cold air intake that’s the correct tubing size that way it won’t screw up the tune i’m going to try and let everyone know

[@BlueOvals24]

@@popeyeandstraussmx4165 No not a cone, just a normal flat filter.

[@popeyeandstraussmx4165]

FordPoweredEveryday the cone air filter is less retstrictive and he can get it to fit in the stock intake tube. The paper filter is restrictive

[@BlueOvals24]

@@popeyeandstraussmx4165 I didn't say get a paper filter, get a K&N one and you'll have the same results. The cone is only a good idea if you can fit it in the stock airbox with the lid on, otherwise it'll just suck in hot air from the engine bay.

[@maxiethefoxxie]

I have that same drop in Air Filter you showed. Hasn't given me any problems.

[@jons2447]

Hello, "Mr Random": First, I want to "Thank You" for all you do, I like to watch some of your videos & wish you the best. OK, pal, according to the FORD Owner's Manual, pg 81, [under "Powertrain malfunction"] the "wrench" light comes on when the car has a DRIVE TRAIN/TRANSMISSION problem. Here's the quote; "POWERTRAIN MALFUNCTION. Displayed when the powertrain is not operating properly. If the warning stays on or continues to come on, contact your authorized dealer as soon as possible." Now I just had my trans rebuilt [2008 P71] earlier this year & the "wrench" light was on before the trans rebuild--since the rebuild, the light has been OFF since. That said, I don't know much about the "ETC" or "Electronic Throttle Control". BUT! I was a mechanic for 'bout 20 years before & after "Electronic Engine Management" systems became common. "*IF*" you alter the air flow into the engine significantly the computer can NOT compensate for the change, & that could cause the problem. And the "powertrain" includes the engine which makes the "power". MAIN POINT The engine must have a way to measure the airflow. Usually, that's a "Mass Airflow Sensor". [On Ford P71s.] Anything that disrupts or disturbs that measure more than a "little" is going to cause a problem for the Electronic Engine Management system. Unless the engine is ruined you can probably restore or replace the electronic components to fix it. You should find an independent mechanic w/ a serious mid- to high-level scan tool to check out the EEM system; that'll tell you a lot more about the car's condition. It may only need just a mass airflow sensor. Again, wish you the best, & maybe you're the 'lucky' type & you can fix it--just don't give up until it's really dead. Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!

[@matthewcollins7660]

I had my wrench light go off because i totslly forgot to connect the mass air flow sensor

[@ShaqTheBoss]

From how you explained it, the tubing size seems to be the issue. So if I keep the stock tubing and just replace this awful square filter with a cone filter, will I throw any codes? Not really looking for performance, I'm just tired of these vic filter boxes warping.

[@ActualNonsense]

i’m wondering the same thing that’s exactly what i did to my 2008 crown vic p71 4 months ago so far so good no wrench so far

[@mr.carguy3161]

There is a cone shaped opening for the stock air filter housing that gets air from the corner of the headlight next to the grille. It's already a "cold-air" box because of that. If you want a K&N filter, just get a drop-in filter, like he said.

[@eriv4735]

That opening is like 1/12 inches and is restrictive as all hell 🤷‍♂️

[@kolinmartz]

The one you were calling “drive by wire” is a throttle cable.

[@ramaldoross7726]

Kolin Martz thank you

[@oldschoolrican]

I got a aero-style 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis LS & I'm thinking about adding a cold air intake. I already installed a throttle body spacer. Wish me luck yall. 🙏🏽

[@theapplianceguru]

The same thing happened to mine when I install my K&N cold air intake you have to also poke a hole about 5 inches up from the filter and you have to install the "mass air flow sensor" and the wrench will go away i have 10k miled on it no issues mpgs are better and it feels more powerful

[@codybrady6637]

I don't know much about the crown vics but my truck is ford mass airflow and when I did a cold air intake it would throw codes, found out that the MAF doesn't like to be on it's side. It will work fine right side up or upside down but at an angle it has issues. That could be this dude's problem

[@stuartracing1]

Thats the "Intake Air Temp sensor"..The mass Air Flow sensor is inside the MAF,it looks like a screen,very sensitive to "AIR FLOW".....

[@TheDutchTexan]

Drive by Wire means ETC. I know, it’s confusing... This video had my head spinning, but the point still hits home. Got a DBW car? No CAI!

[@MrRandomReviews]

100% man...i had a long ass day when i recorded this but im glad the main point was atleast made some what clear👍

[@MikeL-FL]

Bull. I’ve put intakes on well over a dozen DBW cars. I have one on my X3 right now. Just because Ford screwed up with the CV doesn’t mean all DBW is the same. I’ve even used CAI on other 4.6’s.

[@03mm24]

Ford didn't screw up, computer just needs a simple re-tune. Mr.Random here just didn't know all the facts before he spewed info on KZbin

[@christianwallace7422]

That actually common on many Ford from the era. The Ford five hundred has horrible throttle bodys. Ford knew they were junk. Intake wouldn't matter much the setup was bad

[@Unchained_Bankai]

I was under the impression that drive by wire IS electronic and drive by CABLE is direct cable to throttle body

[@bpowersman5000]

You're right, hes wrong.

[@B3burner]

bpowersman5000 >>> Agreed! I wish he would clarify that in his description.

[@keithbassett4988]

Haha...U r correct, sir!! ....was just a poor choice of words on Mr. R's part. 'Drive by wire' IS for the electronically controlled throttle body w/small motors metering the air intake. And if you have cables and a massive throttle return spring next to throttle body, you my friend, indeed possess the 'drive by cable' system.

[@mr3DhimselfLIVE]

Good lookin out I was definitely thinkin about getting a cold air intake on my 08

[@mikejones6782]

I was actually thinking the same on my 08

[@RichHoopsNba]

i have it on my 08 tune into my channel !

[@RichHoopsNba]

it’s a spectre intake though

[@pantherplatform]

I totally agree. The stock intake already sucks in cold air. I use a tablet to monitor all the parameters, including intake air temp, and the air at the sensor is no warmer than ambient temperature.

[@davinciwes968]

Most of the time with engine mods your expected to get a tune it can work as long as u tune ur car to what u have in it and that's why alot of people cars mess up the mod for power n don't tune

[@MrMoneygreen27]

Great video.to the point.direct and informative.tired of the fluffed up KZbin vides w a whole lot of extra bs . Stayed on topic .thank you

[@hotrodmercury3941]

*puts in on position* WRENCH LGHT OMG WRENCH LIGHT. dude. Your channel has influenced me to get a Grand Marquis. The best car I have ever own. I learned through the manual that it's normal for all lights to turn on to ensure no lights are bad.

[@MrRandomReviews]

i did that to show those who never seen a wrench light what it actually looks like...it had come on earlier in the day

[@hotrodmercury3941]

@@MrRandomReviews ah K makes sense

[@hotrodmercury3941]

@@MrRandomReviews If I put a cold air intake in my '00 Grand Marquis, would it be safe?

[@trumalaki6225]

This is true…BUT!! There is a Ram air intake kit for about $60 bucks on eBay that only replaces your stock intake box and attaches to your OEM intake tube. Makes a BIG difference in power without throwing the wrench light, just have to use your original MAF which is best. I tried plugging in a new one on mines and it threw the wrench light immediately. Original MAF is correctly tuned with your car. However I’d recommend buying a heat shield and reflective tape to reduce the heat from the engine with this set up. K&N kits are junk, overrated, and expensive. There’s the Afe Magnum which fits these cars, but spending $350-400 on a whole intake system vs $90-100 tops for what you need is a no-brainer.

[@jimbetche7864]

Great information. I saw the video when you made the conversion, looks like it didn't take long to figure out it was a bad idea. Glad your showing this video cause I was just about to make the same mistake to my 06 p71

[@bmacster1985]

So if I change my grand marquis’ stock air intake to a p71/marauder intake do I need to unplug the battery so it can relearn

[@JohnSmith0956]

Actually the ETC came on the new 2005-2011 models. the late 2004's came with them, but the earlier 2004 still came with cable wire. so anything from 1998-2003 (early 2004), you can modify the air box if you so choose. Back then they had the "air temp sensor" where in 2005 they did away with that and had the ETC and the MAF talk to each other.

[@DK99824]

Back when I had my 2010 P7B, I cut up the lid of the airbox from a junked CVPI, and found a cone filter to sit on the factory intake tube. That shit ran just fine for miles on end, and sounded fucking amazing. Lined up with the air box too, so probably could've built a heatshield to maximize performance.

[@Wayneman48]

Save $300 and keep your stock air box. Change the stock filter regularly and keep the MAF clean. Great running 1999 Lincoln T.C. good gas mileage with no lights or problems. Happy Motoring Panther Platform Nation.🏁💰🔧

[@Majorbee42]

94 t.C any tips

[@Wayneman48]

Keep it maintained, when somethings breaks repair it. If you are restoring your Town Car do ONE thing every week no matter how small it may be. Then one day you will be finished your restoration. Change the oil and use synthetic oil only. I use Walmart Super Tech which meets all standards. Use the correct automatic transmission fluid at the proper intervals. Happy Motoring Bryan. 🏁🏁

[@Majorbee42]

Thanks Wayne i just changed my oil filter and cleaned the engine bay

[@Wayneman48]

@@Majorbee42 Next week do another small project. Check out Scotty Kilmer videos for some general advice on autos.Chris fix also has some interesting videos. Keep that T.C. pointed. 🏁🏁

[@03mm24]

@@Wayneman48 +1 on Chris Fix, and also Eric The Car Guy

[@rickhernandez3696]

Ive had an afe cold air intake on my 2010 cvpi for about 2 years with no problem. when i bought mine i got it from summit racing and i wanted a k&n but i called and the customer service guy specifically told me that the k&n would not work on my car but the afe would. no tune needed.

[@greenbareet]

I just bought mine today. The afe brand. I haven’t heard any bad reviews on them so I’m hoping all will be well for it. Mine is an 09 p71

[@Dylanl92]

Usually these big filters require a tune up to work correctly. I bet if you got the PCM tuned with the intake it would work a lot better.

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Didn’t need one for my AFE on my 2011 🤷‍♂️ definitely will wake it up when I do

[@aslackjr4466]

Thanks for the heads up! I was already having a problem with that wrist light and needed to be the clean out or replace my EGR valve but in doing that I also was going to upgrade the k&n cold air as well as the throttle body spacer. Glad you warned me on that

[@eriv4735]

Don’t listen to this guy, he doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about..he calls hacking up a car into a pile of junk “building a car”..you can run ANY intake in your car if it’s a 96-04 and if it’s later ALL you NEED is a simply tune..it amazes me that anyone take this guy seriously

[@jamanmartin6795]

Would it be possible to keep the cold air intake if the car's computer has a custom tune to accommodate the intake.

[@eriv4735]

Make Cool Stuff You couldn’t be more wrong about the performance properties of a cai

[@eriv4735]

Make Cool Stuff first off the tube is the same 3 inches on all the panthers be it civi cv cvpi (and are the same exact part number either way 🤦🏽‍♂️) so your whole “smaller intake tube bore” comment just shows you’ve never even worked on a crown Vic, in fact It seems you have no clue how engines work so you clearly don’t understand how REAL DYNO TUNES work..peak numbers aren’t everything..not only does this work it works well and is more than worth the money to get it done right..lastly you insinuating one running a cam through the stock intake set up is hilarious 😆

[@03mm24]

@@makecoolstuff9170 Tunes alone wake these cars up and especially when paired with an CAI and or 3:73-4:10 gears....you definitely haven't worked on a crown vic performance mod wise

[@eriv4735]

Make Cool Stuff if it’s “rude” to point out YOUR stupidity then I’ll be rude and you’ll still be stupid..Judging by your extreme lack of sound logic in thinking that you’ll lose power with an tune I doubt you can tell me anything about anything in general..maybe it is you that needs to do some googling or even ask yourself why people do an mzt on interceptors 🤣..the zip tube is the same diameter and thus the same exact cfm..the only improvement in the mzt (you’ve proven you have no clue what the mzt even is 👍🤣😂) itself is the air box volume (only about 20% 🤣) which supports the need for a 80mm maf..so anyone with any sense would know a 70mm maf (which is what a police interceptor is 🤦🏽‍♂️)tune will only improve the performance of the vehicle..you clearly know nothing about crown Vic’s or even cars in general and it is showing..you have a lot to learn kiddo..you have a very good imagination tho and the fact that you think your “setting me straight” and you have some knowledge that I don’t have (even though you yourself have proven the exact opposite)is extremely laughable due to how delusional you clearly are..have fun “tuning” your “cammed” and “supercharged” “crown Vic” 🤣😂👍

[@Smeaded]

So I can put a K&N cold air intake on my crown Vic? It's a mechanical throttle cable. 2003 crown Vic p71

[@zukezukowski5944]

Same here, I have a 2000 p71 and I was planning on putting a cold air intake. Would it be ok or would I come across limp mode?

[@Smeaded]

@@zukezukowski5944 im not sure that's what I'm trying to find out as well

[@zukezukowski5944]

@@Smeaded I know I was just curious about my vehicle as well because different years have different components

[@Smeaded]

@@zukezukowski5944 well our crown vics are the same up to 2005 I believe changed to the electronic throttle body

[@clauswolter3946]

Thank you for this video! (just got a 2010 cvpi and was thinking of adding the cold air intake - NOT NOW)

[@eriv4735]

Get a proper tune afterwards and you’ll be fine..this guy just throws parts at his cars and does absolutely no tuning, r&d, or supporting modifications..he’s had his experiences because of his lack of experience

[@enrique88005]

I've had a spectre cold air intake on my 09 vic for the past 2 years. No issues

[@fernandov2838]

CIVILIAN OR P71? THINKING OF DOING A COLD AIR INTAKE ON A 06 GRAND MA.

[@adamdetre9384]

Hey great video. But how would I get rid on engine clatter upon cold starts?

[@dillonbmx16]

rebuild

[@adamdetre9384]

It's a really short lived clatter. And it doesn't happen all the time. The car doesn't burn or have a loss in compression. The car runs good. Is it a timing chain? Or is it the timing chain guides?

[@roundsm18]

Adam Detre generally speaking “clatter” isn’t a diagnostic term. So is it your timing chain? Idk, what’s the service interval on the chain and how many miles have you got? How many hours has it run? I do mine every 120,000... and with it I tend to replace the oil pump (cause you’re already there). Motorcraft parts? Why? I reference all the idiots blowing up their engines using aftermarket “upgraded” parts. Ask the fleet guy who has to make the thing hit 500,000 miles what works best, not some idiot whose only platform is eBay with no long term results. Is it compression leaking around your spark plugs? Could be... that’s a common Ford modular engine family problem. Nobody fixes it until the plug blows out and hits the hood. Then once again, blame the Ford engineer. Did you spin a bearing? Idk you’re just chasing “clatter”. Make a video, a lot of us fleet nuts hang out on here. And for the love of god please change your lube oil pump if you do a timing set it’s way too easy to just do than to regret when you have a complete rotating assembly lubrication failure.

[@SlikLizrd]

Your "cold start clatter" is most likely caused by a failed "Anti-Drainback Valve" in the oil filter. I cured the problem by changing to a BOSCH # 3410 Premium Oil Filter, 5-W-30 Full Synthetic Oil, and a 5,000-mile oil change interval. Yours may take the lighter 5-W-20 Oil -- check the oil filler cap for proper oil viscosity.

[@KINGARTORIUS.]

Cold intake two years notice nothing

[@KINGARTORIUS.]

@Lockdown spinning 2007 But I don’t drive it in the winter

[@haydengames2655]

Thank you so much !!! I also got one just a few mins ago then I saw ur video lol

[@TheMontagGarage]

And no that is not drive by wire, you have it completely mixed up. Drive by wire is no throttle body or cables or flaps, it's all electric.

[@3Wheels1Block]

He is mixed up about which car is drive-by-wire ( I think he mis-spoke, as he id clean it up later in the video). You are mixed up as to what drive-by-wire is as well. Older model throttle bodies were mostly cable driven, like the 2nd vic he introduced in the video the cable moves the butterfly (flap) just like the old carburetors. Drive by wire works the same, except a stepper motor (TPS) which receives an electronic signal from the accelerator moves the butterfly (flap) in the throttle body. The Drive by wire is no cable, but there is a throttle body and there is a flap. (there are several videos explaining the difference between the two)

[@rustedduster]

May just be lucky. I'm running an ADTR intake tube, 3" or 3.5" (can't remember which size) AFE MAF tube, and an AFE cone filter along with an SCT tuner running an out of box tune with no issues on my 2011 P7B. I do know DBW Ford's can be finicky in regards to MAF sensor placement.

[@the69ford]

I have a 2008 Interceptor. I have an afe cold air intake on mine, and it has no problems without a tune. It made the car sound a little nicer, but didn't add to the performance at all either.

[@KnuckleHeadGarage27]

No don't even put a K&N air filter in your vehicle either of it has a massive air sensor . Because those air filter have oils in them and will pass into the mass air flow sensor and cause a check engine light or have problems or cause the massive air flow sensor to go out so if your vehicle has one I definitely recommend do not ever put one of those filters in there .

[@j.griffin]

I have been told that it’s the K&N oil interfering with and ruining the MAF sensor. If you use a dry filter you’re fine. So I was told. I just use the best drop in OEM-style filter with heat tape wrapped around the inlet pipe. I don’t need more than just “a little bit better than stock”- I’m more into rugged simplicity,reliability and endurance. That’s where Vic’s really shine. What other car does a full tour of duty as a cop car and then “retires” to taxicab duty to run until there’s nothing left but parts being recycled into other taxicabs? Seen any Charger taxicabs lately?

[@kennyvaleck8112]

You're right about the chargers

[@oldschoolrican]

Did u noticed more horsepower after installing the heat shield intake wrap?

[@الحربي-س3ح]

i have 2006 mercury grand marquis can i install maruder air box? with out problem

[@The07gt]

mercury Mercury I with you on this. I believe it’s the same air box as the police air box.

[@الحربي-س3ح]

@@The07gt no

[@johnnychronicles3221]

I have a 2000 crown victoria police interceptor with k&n with flow masters and other stuff and it sound amazing and this video i thought i was gnna have to change it.😎

[@jayyjones2285]

My p71 went into limp mode just recently bt the wrench light came on when I got another transmission put in I just bought another transmission it’s getting put in today hopefully my problem goes away bt I didn’t mess with the cold air intake

[@pantherplatform]

2003 is the best year ever. No drive by wire and no over engineered b.s.

[@eriv4735]

1998-2004 has the throttle cable 2005-2011 has the electric throttle body The wrench light can be avoided with a simple tune..I had a cai on my 2008 for 35k miles and never had any issues what so ever thanks to the tune

[@Terminxman]

it doesn't sound like a CAI in itself is an issue, the issue just based on what you've described here about it seems to be the differing diameters between where the maf and throttle is

[@bbytonybaldwin7653]

SCT Tuner/Programmer. Awesome!!! FYI I've been using a ram air intake for awhile with no issues. Not the K&N.

[@D1mj28]

Stop with all the jump cuts in your video!

[@highrzr]

Sounds like the K&N is based off of the 70mm MAF\zip tube of the civilian models. The CVPI as most know, uses a 80mm MAF\zip tube. You're getting the wrench because your MAF table in the PCM is set for the 80mm not the 70mm. The ETC doesn't talk to the MAF. The MAF talks to the PCM which talks to the ETC. If you want to flow more air in the CVPI air box, get the specific air filter element for a 2003-2004 Mercury Marauder. Is is different and It does flow slightly more air than the CVPI air filters. Note the CVPI and non-CVPI air filters are the same. BTW, both the CVPI and the civilian air boxes are CAI. The aftermarket CAIs are really just HAI that cost a lot of money.

[@DtownFeen]

Wouldnt it work if u wouldve re learned the system??

[@rustbeltrobclassic2512]

Actually helpful, was trying to figure out what years were cable controlled throttle bodies, want to swap back in my 08 turbo marquis project. Have been thinking about retrofitting an 08 drive by wire into an 04 cable controlled bbk. But this will make life easier.. thank you.. Just curious, do you know if the ecu from an 04 vic will work on an 08 merc, is the only difference the electronic throttle control module?

[@TheTerminator310]

The problem with the stock airbox on these Crown Victoria's I've seen though is they are very prone to warpage and thus allowing the filter to fall down into the lower half of the air cleaner box. I'm trying to find a solution for mine, but of course without making it run like shite and also sucking in a ton of hot air from the engine bay.

[@zdhyde9008]

It's not a problem with the cold air set up it is the filters themselves. Do not get oiled filters. That oil makes it's way up the intake and soaks iat, maf, map and so on. Vehicles that dont throw a code because of oiled filters are more than likely suffering some performance losses due to contaminated sensors.

[@easycomeeasygo8901]

I'm sure you will cover this in your next video. But this is the reason why many companies like to combine a cold air with a tune. I have no idea how tunable the p71 computer is. I just know that when I bought a cold air for my truck from Five Star Tuning they sold it with a tune. If the Interceptor computer is not tunable how about swapping it over to a Mustang computer?

[@kosycat1]

thank seams plausible

[@damionlabounty7116]

FYI the electronic throttle body is what is known as drive by wire, the one you show is a standard mechanical cable throttle body drive by wire means it’s drive. by the electrical wires

[@joebuddensvoicecoach3060]

i can hear Scotty K laughing right now... he might make a video about it lol.. sorry about your car Mr.R i hope it can recover...

[@Onelovej]

That guy is do annoying

[@JDMHaze]

lol

[@JDMHaze]

Dank knowledge💫🙏🔥💨 why is he annoying? is he too loud?? lol

[@thehornblasterjohnny]

He annoying. As an ASE certified mechanic, his videos are extremely biased and in some cases entirely false. Maybe he had a few 1% cases and then blows them out of proportion because it supports his bias but in over half of Scotty Ks videos I have watched, they simply are far from the truth or extremely biased. His demeanor doesn't help his case either. I used to watch his videos to laugh and point out where he was dead wrong but now I find him annoying because I am now bored with his "hey I am a mechanic on crack and only these two cars ever have been roadworthy". Its sad really because the guy does have valid points on some things but then completely discredits hisself by saying stupid things like boxer engines (or H type) are inferior engines and compared them to wankle engines. Hahaha! One minute a valid point... next minute... pure nonsense. That is why Scotty K is annoying to me personally. Add the caffeine factor and it amplifies it. Just my opinion though.

[@joebuddensvoicecoach3060]

@@thehornblasterjohnny you make a detailed and valid point...

[@MASTERCHIEFG0KU]

Mr random! Remember when you made the video of modding the stock airbox to fit a cone filter? ( but still using the stock tubing ) I had done that to my 07 p71 and it worked fine? Is it still bad to do that? I plan on having another vic in the near future but if it’s not worth putting the effort into carving up the airbox I guess I won’t ;( ( still chopping the hell out of the exhaust tho ) lol

[@P71ScrewHead]

sean sechi, bro don't be discouraged, its doable, plus P71s are lower priced n most anyone can work on them.. I want to put the BBK TB on it, stock air box or not..lol Buy another P71 bro, they are historic n will become rare, one day..lol

[@Yophillips3272]

Right... but my crown vic intake hose has these stupid plastic pieces on them. Probably for noise. Can I put the P71 intake hose on my Vic or cut and block those holes up?

[@nuyabiss]

Also sorry for your loss.

[@overipecolt246]

From what I'm reading the K&N CAI were only tested on the civi crown vics, not compatible with PI ones. A guy on the forums had the same issue on his 08 he returned too Stock and everything worked.

[@MrRandomReviews]

💯💯

[@LiifeWithShaq]

Yikes. Saved me a few hundred thanks bro

[@spleenperkins2217]

I’ve had my 06’ p71 since February 2016, has an AFE intake that was on it when I bought it with 100k on it, no tune for it. Over 6 years and 67k miles later it isn’t a problem. Also, as others have stated that cable controlled throttle body is NOT dbw lol…

[@SlickitySloth59]

Had to put one on my 02 after I changed the pcm to a p71 pcm!(originally base model) but she would bog out after hard gas so i slapped a cold air intake on there and haven’t had the problem since

[@mikegonzales1832]

Just a thought.. But... You said that the stalk pipe is bigger in diameter then the after market intake diameter..right?...ok so if that is the indication of the problem then why not get a after market intake diameter that measures at the same diameter as stalk or alittle bigger.. 🤔?

[@shreeve1985]

K&N filters are good for airflow. Bad for letting larger particles of dirt through. Project Farm did a video on this. Say you're at the drag strip. K&N filter would be great because you're only running for short periods of time. For every day driving I would stick to a WIX filter.

[@luckyPiston]

DRIVE BY WIRE ... actually means that the gas pedal has a rheostat and the throttle body has a stepper motor so the throttle is opened by a little motor and gears and the connection between the two is wiring with the ECM being in between .......

[@mettetal]

Had a cold air on my 2003 crown and it was a great mod. It didn’t have that drive by wire bullshit. Also had an ‘06 and ‘08 and they had terrible throttle response compared to my 2003.

[@Nightcrawler__01]

Idk i have a p71 with a cold air intake 😅 had it for 12 years nothing went wrong..... When i bought it i replaced the throttle body of course because you can't put a performance intake on it without performance parts backing it up. Aren't you a mechanic???? Just asking...

[@briankaminsky2832]

I've had an afe cai for months and haven't had any problems

[@b566t3]

I want one I saw one on Ebay for $250 do you need to tune your car also

[@briankaminsky2832]

@@b566t3 nah I threw it on in about 15 minutes and all has been well

[@butterflair00]

I have the afe as well. Car starting running to rich. Got a diablo predator tuner and had it custom tuned. 7 years and it runs great.

[@rickhernandez3696]

Ive had an afe cold air intake on my 2010 vic for about 2 years with no problem. when i bought mine i got it from summit racing and i wanted a k&n but i called and the customer service guy specifically told me that the k&n would not work on my car but the afe would.

[@mustanggt35r44]

I have a 06 MGM with a K&N and it doesn’t seem to be having any issues, is there a difference between the civilian mercs and Vics?

[@derekmanners1486]

I've had a cold air intake on my 92 Crown Vic for over a year and a half without any of these issues so I don't know what's going on with yours but might want to look into seeing if you did something wrong. Just saying

[@msmeyersmd8]

To my Son, I’m not gloating or saying I told you so. I’m not trying to make you feel bad. You’ve got great mechanical instincts. Don’t ignore them. There’s a very good reason why I do NOT like Turbos in cars. I studied thermodynamics in college. They are heat rejection nightmares. I’ve seen retrofitted twin turbo Corvettes with hoods melted onto the engine. I’ve watched giant car companies release turbos on small engines to make up for power lost to large V-6 or V-8 engines. Way back in the post-1979 gas “crisis”. They are NEVER reliable. It never fucking works. That’s why almost ZERO car companies use them for any length of time. I have some practical and logical basis for my opinion. Turbos are a heat rejection nightmare failure waiting to happen. Believe it or not. Car companies usually do an incredible amount of engineering on intakes, exhausts, xmissions, rear ends on their large volume vehicles. Especially fleet vehicles like the Crown Vic/ Lincoln Town Car. This guy spent a lot of money on a fancy cool looking intake for what? A few HP. If that? Ford did it right at the factory so it’s best not to fuck with that unless you are doing a huge high HP engine build. Just one Dad’s opinion told to his Son.

[@r3alitygam3r33]

I have a bbk cable cable throttle body so im fine plan on putting on a afe cold air intake

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Still running an AFE CAI on my 2011 Vic police package for over a year no issues

[@mavadoroaster]

That's a lie.. those wrench lights come on even without an intake

[@eriv4735]

He never said that’s the ONLY reason the light comes on..

[@ParissaKhoury]

What can I put on my 2003 Lincoln Town Car to make it sound better?

[@adamweiss548]

Hey Mr. Random Reviews, I own a 2011 p71 and have been thinking about supercharging/ new cam/ exhaust etc, should I be worried about that wrench light with those mods or am a semi safe as long as I only modify after the MAS? I understand superchargers suck a lot more air would that trip the sensor as well or would I just be stupid to not pair a $3,000 supercharger with a $300 cold air intake- love my crown Vic just wondering if you think I should save a headache and $5k and wait for my next car.

[@dannyzuehlsdorf3697]

you're gonna ask this clown? come on, bruh

[@robertobuenrostro2781]

Goño Mr Random, go get a tuner and fix the Vick. 📲 🚗💨

[@shartingfish5761]

Mr Random, do you have a video on bypassing the premium sound amp to install an aftermarket stereo?

[@jasonnebel649]

I have a 2011 crown Victoria Lx and I just put a short ram intake in my car is that going to make my car messed up and the wrench light come on and then eventually turn into limp mode ?

[@Tomcatntbird]

What about switching the P71 stock intake manifold for a Ford racing intake manifold? I have a 2006 P71. Also wanting to know about upgrading the throttle body to a 85mm or even a 80mm or something like that. I did that with my 96 Ernie Irvan special edition SVT Thunderbird, but since the P71 sounds technically different, would there be any negative aspects like what you are talking about in the video?

[@03SilverMustangGT]

08 Grand Marquis with an Afe intake and tune. Runs great )yes, I have an ETB)

[@ekimok8462]

Hey mr. Random I love your videos but this one has really got me concerned about my cai, cant it be a coincidence that the wrench light came on for a different reason A couple days after your install? And has this happened to any of your other vics with a cai?

[@MrRandomReviews]

alot of people told me the CAI doesnt work good with P71's...sure enough 3 days after installing it i got the wrench light and an Electronic Throttle error...also the car was not as responsive....as soon as i went back to stock its been 100% fine no more issues

[@tyrellfort7215]

Hey can you make a video about fixing the wrench light because it happened to mine when I cleaned my throttle body now the wrench light won't go away and I'm losing so much power then before I touched it

[@roundsm18]

Tyrell Fort so if you cleaned the throttle body and destroyed a sensor by spraying it with the cleaner that will generally cause the light to come on. So will spraying starting fluid in your intake and getting it onto the MAF Sensor. There’s a lot of variables. What caused the fault code that set the CEL? This is the only way to actually help you, otherwise we can all give you ideas that may be completely incorrect. Proper diagnostics and repair saves money.

[@David121026]

Mine goes into limp mode a lot I believe. Still runs and drives. And I still have the stock air intake. Cleaned my maf. And my throttle body. And still does it. Idk why. Would you know what I need to do?

[@brianskinner4328]

Actually it seems like the stock filter would be a cold air intake. It takes cold air into the intake to the engine. The supposed cold air intake is technically bringing in hot air into the intake. Even though the plastic shroud is Supposedly blocking the hot air, its still being sucked from the engine bay. The factory intake sucks the air from the outside. Also the oil from the intake can destroy maf and throttle sensors because of the oil used to keep the filter lubed. Not dissing companies, but from what I heard from other videos, it makes sense.