Great catch! Yeah just checked it and Chun's 2mk x drive rush 2lk is a true block string. If you're going to try to DP after her 2mk then make sure you are not pressing forward during it! Her 4/6MP into 2LK after Drive Rush isn't a true block string though and you can always DP if she does 4/6MP into drive rush.
@Rupix156 ай бұрын
also Zangief's ^^
@jrg3056 ай бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffyI'm only plat 5 but I don't think cancel Dr is good meter use on chun li over OD moves. Od kicks is safe on block. Od kikoken is a reset and very+. Od sbk is a launcher. Od air legs is buffed now too. Od kikoken goes thru fireballs and is fast. Od tensho is used a lot for invul reversal. She uses a lot of meter blocking too. Raw/parry drive rush is worth it for her overhead or medium kick or cross up. There's not a lot left unless you're one of those master players who just memorize one combo and then make that work for any poke you land on your new char. The one I see is the standing Med punch, back heavy punch, stance light kick, m. sbk. It doesn't even do a ton of damage over other combos with the modifier for cancel Dr. Not worth 3 bars and burnout again.
@ppluis46436 ай бұрын
@@jrg305 I play her, got to master long ago but it means nothing. I agree on something with you: spending 3 bars on dr cancel is normally not good use of meter. If you have full meter and you are good catching them standing, maybe. I'd rather do cr.mk buffered into OD legs plus oki or I'd play fireball/poke/antiair game. If they actually play neutral Chun li has astonishing normals, to poke them from afar and also to punish them extremely hard for throwing low moves. Bad thing is these DR people trying to force their way in with no intention to play anything clean.
@PraiseChika6 ай бұрын
Ed's 2LP is also an actual low and also 4f.
@LGSVODs6 ай бұрын
Didn't know so many drive rush strings were fake. Thanks for the tip
@LuigiG1456 ай бұрын
I fought an Akuma in ranked today who was doing this to me, I'm pretty sure he saw your video lmao. I gotta hand it to him, he really made me go "Damn who the fuck does that"
@ChillOut_Gaming6 ай бұрын
Dude some of these concepts and interactions you go over in your vids are thigns that I know I will forget to do or freeze up when it comes up, but its just super interesting learning about the nuance of these games. Keep up the vids man
@El-Burrito6 ай бұрын
This is all great info. I had no idea that holding down keeps you blocking during a block string, even if you're not holding back
@bhglghb6 ай бұрын
You don't need to hold down to keep blocking if it is a true block string. If you block the first hit and then let go of the controller you will still block the whole thing. The exception is that you still need to be holding down to block low attacks.
@khanhhuynh54516 ай бұрын
Blanka has a character specific DP bait and that's cr.mk/mp -> DRC -> 6KKK. Blanka will drive rush cancel and instant hop through any DP or flash kick. I like to do it if I know my opponent auto pilots DP/Flask kick's any drive rush cancel.
@MikeyDLuffy6 ай бұрын
That makes perfect sense and is some pretty cool character specific tech.
@Pusher_1176 ай бұрын
doing the lords work as always. Thank you for the info!
@Section8dc6 ай бұрын
Do more of these please! You are helping a lot with these videos!
@MikeyDLuffy6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! Definitely plan on doing more.
@fafadfadfdaf46116 ай бұрын
There's character specific ways to to bait out this OS. Ed can kk command back dash or use his own DP, Kim can teleport to dodge DP depending on character (she has to OD teleport to dodge kens and even then the timing is to tight for resources lost), Aki can now low snake step, install supers theoretically can beat it if timed right, and I'm sure theres others I'm not thinking of. BUT if you time the OS right, DP should still not come out during these fake drive rush cancel scenarios, another BUT you would have to buffer the motion and manually stop when you see the fake drive rush. So another layer.
@jpVari6 ай бұрын
Always weird to me when people try to say these games are simple.
@joshford2566 ай бұрын
To be fair, it's taken a year of development for this video saying, "invincible option beats offense" lol
@shmixedNshmooved6 ай бұрын
A lot of it is just moment to moment rage. I don't even acknowledge it anymore
@badnewstk6 ай бұрын
@@joshford256 it's more that people have figured out you can option select drive rush pressure, you input DP and if they do something like grab or a slower strike it comes out and if they do a blockstring you don't DP even though you've input it
@LucianRudeboy6 ай бұрын
The game isn't simple. The problem is that some of the most effective strategies in this game are ridiculously simple to execute (drive rush, throw loops, full screen corner carry, etc). It reduces barriers to entry, sure, but it in turn makes otherwise low skilled players stronger. Tricky balancing act for sure
@SHOCKWAVE-cp5ri6 ай бұрын
playing M controls is !!!🤣
@ZachHenke6 ай бұрын
4:40 If you want to be a complete nut job you can do 2MK DRC into DI if you KNOW they are doing this OS. It's not necessarily a sound/safe strategy, but it does work.
@Adrian-ub3yz6 ай бұрын
still losses to some OD DPs like Ken's and Akuma's since they have enough hits to break through the armor
@ZachHenke6 ай бұрын
@@Adrian-ub3yz Only Akuma and Rashid.
@polkunus6 ай бұрын
Cool but what if i dont have a dp
@user-ng7ty2mc8l6 ай бұрын
The attacker can hit confirm their crouching medium kick if they drive rush cancel it. So they jab if it's blocked, and they do a bigger button if it hits. Then it's completely safe, and you get still get the larger reward if it hits.
@MikeyDLuffy6 ай бұрын
Yup! And I imagine that will become the norm down the line, but right now, even at 1600-1700 MR, I've noticed people do fake drive rush strings on block all the time. That being said, as the defender you still pose no risk for inputting the DP in the situation that they are confirming the crmk was blocked.
@user-ng7ty2mc8l6 ай бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy That's true. And it would protect you from things like cr medium kick into drive rush overhead 😵💫
@laffy72046 ай бұрын
Well, heavy buttons have better true block strings anyway and steal more meter, so drive rushing those are more useful anyway. You mostly buffer mediums into driverush light as a low risk callout. And if it doesn't hit, you try to shimmy to enforce a strike throw
@krasmazov0096 ай бұрын
What to do if you don't have a dp??
@Mr-Slip-126 ай бұрын
Drive reversal, lvl1
@Ryan-jl1el6 ай бұрын
love the game but i feel this game just caters more toward the low forward > DRC/DP characters imo
@lucathegreat99694 ай бұрын
"Dp always wins" cries as kimberly with no dp
@PrecludeLP6 ай бұрын
Great video! I figured this out myself the other day, and it really did catch some opponents off guard.
@robertstryjak19736 ай бұрын
What about characters without a dp, like JP (unless he has a move that works like a dp that I'm forgetting)?
@joedelafro46296 ай бұрын
When you consider all these secret option selects, this game's defense is kind of hard to crack at times for me.
@ShinOwen26 ай бұрын
What if my character doesn’t have a magic upper cut?
@jesse76th966 ай бұрын
Rip
@caspertrog10466 ай бұрын
Drive Reversal. Doesn't deal as much damage and doesn't give oki, but with the latest patch it's also significantly less risky than an EX DP because it's not that minus on block, whereas if someone were to read your EX DP, you're going to get blown up.
@PauloQueirozJSАй бұрын
this is so good, thank you!!! 🙇♂🙇♂
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Appreciate it, glad it helped!
@co813856 ай бұрын
Wow! Great tips!
@giangatang6 ай бұрын
My character doesn’t have a dp 😢
@gentlekef86536 ай бұрын
Hmm Mikey be cooking! Great vid
@YAZIDLEMRABET6 ай бұрын
thanks for the vid, can u do a video about how to defend when bbeing in the corner ? i feel like im always getting counter hits no matter what i press
@metallovaboo6 ай бұрын
ive been thinking about this concept but i havent seen anyone explain it all so clearly. hidden gem fgc youtuber.
@lenneth11886 ай бұрын
how the hell do you check the fullscreen dj mix up "am I gonna drive rush jab or jump knee" tho
@kewpuh33386 ай бұрын
manon :(
@crym772 ай бұрын
Which fighting game where buffering isn't at thing?
@Garyluis28.6 ай бұрын
Hi broh why I can't dp constantly I practice a lot but when I play ranked mash I can't dp against random people I can't play neutral and I salty too much
@MikeyDLuffy6 ай бұрын
Yea I feel that. Doing the shortcut I've shown in the video helps a bit, but it mostly comes down to practice and time haha
@Garyluis28.6 ай бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy thanks
@dougdimmadome73206 ай бұрын
Question, where did you get the art in the thumbnail?
@MikeyDLuffy6 ай бұрын
Its an artwork by Persona 5 graphic designer LAM. Link in description!
@ShrimpChipsTV6 ай бұрын
I play on standard ps5 control, how can i do dp input without pressing forward? Can you elaborate a little if there is a trick to it?
@Fargren6 ай бұрын
Db df d df. You have to press forward but not let go of down
@darkfu116 ай бұрын
for the kimberly mains: 5mk>DRC> 2mk is a real block string
@workoutfanatic78736 ай бұрын
Ken is one of the only (few?) characters that can feint low forward with low short. Doing low forward into DRC is a huge meter waste if you don’t have the confirm, I’d only do it if I was desperate to get in. The OD DP can be baited too, and then you’re dead.
@Saskaruto166 ай бұрын
Since down forward isn't blocking either the same issue as pressing forward should apply to that as well.
@yoshitsune56916 ай бұрын
What about drive reversal?, because not everyone has a ex dp
@MikeyDLuffy6 ай бұрын
Drive Reversal is a decent option as well depending on what they cancelled into drive rush, but it loses to more things. In some examples of someone doing Drive Reversal into a jab, they can usually recover in time to block the Drive Reversal in time and then punish you.
@charlesalexanderable6 ай бұрын
They'd have to be committing to a single jab since you can't confirm off one jab
@spectri19906 ай бұрын
Well this was learned year one not to mention they lose a lot meter so it's not always the best option at high level. But that holding df and still blocking is kinda gross
@kevinwong93536 ай бұрын
how do you do the green dash? Im tapping dash button but its not coming out
@friend47206 ай бұрын
Hold parry and then tap forward, or better yet, double tap forward but on the second tap hit parry at the same time
@TekkLuthor6 ай бұрын
@@friend4720 I stunt know why dr feels so unnatural to me
@randomdude48616 ай бұрын
You can do the green dash (drive rush) after using a special cancellable normal and then pressing parry after/during the normal.
@kevinwong93536 ай бұрын
@@friend4720 Thanks! I was able to implement this and hit silver for the first time :D
@friend47206 ай бұрын
@@kevinwong9353 Congrats! 🎉
@moanasandford40296 ай бұрын
Ed has a 4f cr lp that hits low.
@ekwensu87976 ай бұрын
is drive reversal not useful?
@skychaos876 ай бұрын
No, if you are going to spend 2 drive meter you might as well do OD DP to do actual damage. Drive reversal is a noob friendly option with lower rewards.
@caspertrog10466 ай бұрын
It is good, especially since the latest patch. It's obviously less damage than an EX DP, but it's also significantly less risky because you're not as minus on block. And obviously it goes without saying that some characters simply don't have an EX DP, so outside of spending super, Drive Reversal is the only way.
@darkphoenix89216 ай бұрын
Ahhh maybe thats why eds cr lp(low) was negative 5
@megazardxl78444 ай бұрын
I don’t have a dp :(
@isaiahfaux56746 ай бұрын
THANK YOU i hate this mechanic with a firey passion i hope street fighter 7 get rid of this terrible mechanic like I'm all for fast pace aggressive but this mechanic literally makes certain characters broken and unfun to play against even when i win by a clutch i don't feel satisfied or joy its just annoying at that point
@samialsalloom26336 ай бұрын
Drive rush cancel cr MK into cr LP, then block. You are plus and bait out mash dp
@supermonkey9653 ай бұрын
This. You should not mash DP on incoming DRC, but only input it once to check if the opponent is lying or not.
@zabouba59906 ай бұрын
801 did a video like 4 month ago about this don't know why people talk about this now
@jesse76th966 ай бұрын
Not everyone in the world watches videos from just one person or even sees it.
@Jagurda16 ай бұрын
Now give all characters reversals and problem is solved.
@caspertrog10466 ай бұрын
All characters do have a reversal. It's called Drive Reversal, and it got buffed a lot this patch.
@Jagurda16 ай бұрын
@@caspertrog1046 Useless against Jap, Parry OS.
@Ghostdoge6 ай бұрын
Thxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
@ultragalacticlightkick8624 ай бұрын
turn off this annoying music! Its a tutorial video