Stop Killing Games - Interview with Accursed Farms

[@NathanCassidy721]

To clarify some points: 1. EU law does not apply retroactively, thus if a law would pass it would only affect future titles. Still, if future games were under this, it would have a knock on effect for older titles that get rereleases. 2. The big goal of this initiative is simple: if we buy it, we own it. therefore, you as a company can’t take it away from us or prevent us from implementing our own fixes to play it. 3. We are not asking companies to give up their IP or to maintain servers forever, simply make it so that customers that still want to play the game when official support ends have a way to mod it/fix it into a playable state. Developers that make all sorts of different games have stated that this is an easy thing to implement. I bought it up in the stream that there are mods for “multiplayer only” games that turn them into single-player games and while the companies don’t like them for anti-cheat reasons, it shows that it is possible for certain genres. It’s ultimately gonna vary on a case by case basis. 4. Saying that companies would abandon the EU market over a law being passed from this initiative is nonsense. Corporations will not abandon markets if they feel there is money to be made there. And if game companies are willing to make changes for China, a country notorious for IP theft and making you create a new company under government control, making an end-of-life plan is a cakewalk in comparison.

[@ArchOfficial]

Kind of funny that people honestly insinuate that companies being required to do basically nothing is such a hurdle that they will give up their often largest or 2nd largest market.

[@pik910]

If I may add a point, the initiative has no responsibility to represent or consider the interests of publishers. It is a way for the public to make their interests heard. Publishers have money and a lobby. To ask for cultural goods not to be destroyed and to own digital goods is a more than reasonable ask.

[@benvictim]

@@ArchOfficial fourth largest market (Games are bigger in the US, China, and Japan) but like 100%. Companies bend over backwards for china, changing textures, story points, and more to get their games released there. Yet they will "just give up the EU market" pft. Yeah right.

[@awsomebot1]

Addition to 2. It doesn't matter what the ToS/EULA says. Live-service games are sold as if they're goods. If you go to a store and look at a box of games, there's pretty much no way to tell (even if you isolate multiplayer games) which games will keep working for the foreseeable future, and which ones will die in 1, 2, 5, 10 years.

[@ArchOfficial]

@@benvictim "Games", like every single publisher's every product is exactly the same and sells the same ratios. Mobile games are the main market in China and Japan and make about 10x more than actual games.

[@pinglebox3847]

Things are beginning to makes sense.

[@PlaskiJakDeska]

More on that later.

[@juancasanova8434]

I understood that reference.

[@planescaped]

_Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at a tv_ Perhaps Ross and Thor could become Darkmok and Jalad and Tanagra... _J.K Simmons, his head back in laughter and questioning the seriousness of the situation_

[@RAFMnBgaming]

@@planescaped I don't think there's much point talking about thor with regards to SKG anymore. He's made his stance clear, he's made the fact he doesn't want to engage with them clear. Unless he decides to cause trouble, wasting time on him is just that. A waste of time.

[@spacedetective_]

Thank you, Admiral

[@GamerayVideos]

More Europeans should be made aware of this initiative.

[@niallmurray6089]

Thanks Ross for coming to talk with us! I hope you guys didn't miss Big Boss Lambertus himself too much and I kept you entertained. I had a lot of fun!

[@Rhyas9]

Unlike certain developers who fear-monger and pull the "think of the poor devs!" sympathy card, Ross is ACTUALLY thinking for the industry as a whole. He acknowledges not only consumer protections, but also makes distinction between developer/publisher, although bad actors try very hard to muddy that point. Ross wants the discussion to move forward, as a start. There's going to be vagueness. There's going to be gaps that need to be fleshed out. There's going to be points that need to be laboured. But of course, hundreds of developers messaged Thor so ClEaRlY we can't do anything about the current status quo then amirite?

[@benvictim]

BUT THINK OF THE INDIE DEVS!?!?!1111!!>!!!! majority of Indie devs don't make live service games. It's something like 85% AAA and 15% indie that make live service games.

[@Rhyas9]

Good thing most indie devs don't make games that would have much to worry about as much as them live service games. Indie devs might worry about the "cost" that might entail from preserving games, but if indie games have been made as before, ya know, stand-alone with an offline-able online component via patch, then there should be no problem. And if there are concerns, ENGAGE. Help move things along instead of pulling a Thor.

[@benvictim]

@@Rhyas9 I mean I was agreeing with you, using sarcasm in the first sentence (which is why I used 1s while doing the !!!!). The second sentence also reaffirms your point you just made: majority of indie devs don't make games that are affected by this. Thor / a lot of detractors are saying indie developers will be hurt most by this... That might be true, but that's such a small amount of indie developers compared to how the majority of them do peer to peer connection, single player, or release server files. And if they have enough money to do a pure server side multiplayer live service game, then they are more AA devs than indie imo.

[@NathanCassidy721]

It's definately something that is going to have to be treated on a case by case basis. There are gonna be big differences with how a shut down would affect a single-player only, multiplayer only and single and multiplayer games. But the big one concerns to address are 1) does it require an internet connection and 2) why does it need an internet connection. Not to mention there is the business model of said game will play into it such as is it 1) pay once, 2) free-ium, 3) subscription, or 4) completely free. There certainly no universal rule for everything which is why it can seem so vague but the point is simple: We want to play the game anytime we want regardless of the level of support.

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

I dislike everyone who is trying to prevent this movement.

[@aywee26]

12:24 possible consequences, like companies not selling games in the EU as a result 15:47 does Ross prefer the EU or the US? 16:50 paid promotion of the initiative (i.e. via Gamescom) 18:20 what platforms are covered by the initiative? just PC, or also consoles and mobile phones? 22:30 should US have similar initiatives to ECIs? 24:14 why should I care about the initiative if I don't play video games? 27:10 are files gonna be available to existing customers only? or free for everyone? 28:22 what if games use AI services? 30:50 grandfathering of present games 33:55 Duelist game as an example of responsibly handling EOL 35:10 Scandinavian countries passing their vote threshold / reaching out to people speaking other languages than English 37:02 online services on consoles 40:00 using AI to translate SKG videos 42:20 what Ross considers a reasonable measure to repair games? 42:53 possibility of 2nd chance if SKG fails 44:55 what if company sells IP? 47:08 how much functionality can be lost? 50:00 will indie devs be affected? 53:10 possibility of malicious compliance 56:00 chances of SKG succeeding / how non-EU people can help? 58:26 preservation of microtransactions 59:37 subscription games like World of Warcraft 1:02:42 possibility of game companies intervening 1:03:40 Ross' favorite games 1:04:38 EU based studios 1:06:00 renaming "Purchase game" to "Subscribe to game" 1:06:53 briefly talking about "UFC Que Choisir vs Valve Corporation" 1:08:27 "Subscribe till EOL" 1:10:50 single-player and multi-player games merging 1:12:00 Ross' participation role in the initiative 1:14:15 consumer agencies handling Ubisoft 1:17:53 criteria for grandfathering existing games 1:18:40 Cities of Heroes example 1:21:17 "Australian Competition & Consumer Commission vs Valve Corporation" 1:23:09 clashing values with PirateSoftware 1:24:45 breaking the game in a supposedly EOL patch

[@kakizakichannel]

Best comment on the video, thank you based god

[@HenryIVth]

Great work, this could easily fit in the description, but maybe as a top comment will do.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Thank you for this, we included your comment in the description as well!

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

This Video is still underrated, keep pushing algorithm pls to Support this Movement.

[@aywee26]

@@EUMadeSimple Big thanks for putting my shortcuts into the description. I have a question - can you please edit penult point into something like "clashing values with PirateSoftware". Or something different of your choice. My description can come off as biased or clickbaity, and I don't want you to receive possible negative attention because of that.

[@KrossFire330]

ROSS is really awesome for spearheading this movement. He's such a passionate and level-headed dude who (IMO) is putting together a very reasonable ask. And I agree with him - if this initiative doesn't survive, this is basically the last chance to get off the ride before all digital goods permanently shift to an "EVERYTHING-AS-A-SERVICE" model

[@kveller555]

Not even just digital goods. As it's been already mentioned, companies are even trying to pull this bs with physical goods. We're headed into an insanely dystopian future if this kind of practice isn't stopped soon.

[@marcforrester7738]

Which the naysayers think we can fix by voting with our wallets. Gamers have *been* voting with their wallets for fifty years and here we are, we need regulation because people with the worst ideas have a billion wallets to your one.

[@verack1616]

​@@marcforrester7738Voting with our wallets is totally useless if all the companies colludes in doing the same bad practice. And also like Ross says: "I like normal voting instead of voting with our wallets, is more democratic"

[@sutirk]

And here i was thinking he was just a funny guy making half-life videos. Let's hope that the right man in the wrong place really can make all the difference in the world

[@salottin]

Ross is the man! This initiative is happening for years. We tried everything we could before going legal. This is the last stand and, if we do it, the world of commerce will officially change for the better. Let's make History!

[@atmo_dopamine]

Yeah man

[@illpunchyouintheface9094]

Yep. It’s now or never

[@davemegadeth4025]

This man gets my support, his points are very detailed and well put. Nothing absurd behind, just pure fairness against an practice exploited for years

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

100% agree !

[@awsomebot1]

Save us Freeman

[@publiusii4246]

I'm an American the corporations have already beaten the consumers. I'm here for the algorithm as it's all I've got.

[@atmo_dopamine]

Thank you

[@undertonebg]

100% behind Ross and the initiative, go Europeans!

[@WhiskyWeiss]

Ross is the man. Hands down he understands the gaming industry better than most. I'll always support him.

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

So true yeah

[@PaulFromCHGO]

Ross, I admire your efforts to bring this issue to multiple countries because I also believe games are an art form that should be preserved if possible. Please keep up the great work! I was more than happy to sign the EU petition!

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Absolutely, thanks for your support

[@juancasanova8434]

I gotta love that if you look at all the comments against this are ad hominem: - "Ross isn't European". - "Ross isn't a game developer." - "Ross doesn't know about law making." That in itself gives you so much information about how correct this initiative is. If the initiative is bad, criticize IT, not the person who's decided to push it.

[@Sololop]

Exactly. Ad hominem seeks to discredit the arguer instead of addressing the argument. Everyone disagreeing has no points about the argument. It's weird to be against someone campaigning for everyone to keep things that they buy

[@atmo_dopamine]

You nailed it. I want this lobby ppl to get out of this comment section.. disgusting greedy ppl.

[@Imperial_Squid]

The second and third aren't arguments against the proposal itself, but they _are_ good *proxy* arguments that speak to his inexperience with the topic and that there's maybe much more complexity than he and most people first assume.

[@juancasanova8434]

@@Imperial_Squid But that isn't true. In this Q&A, in all of the many videos he's made about the topic; he recognizes the complexity, he discusses different cases, he clarifies that what should be required is only a best effort approach that gives at least a chance to repair the game. This is discussed in this interview, and he has this on all videos he's made about it. He has discussed it with actual game developers, and he and other organizers welcome input by any software developer that care to solve the problem. He says this in the beginning too. The main point is that there is a problem to solve. If game developers say there isn't any problem to solve, then that's not a technical difference, it's a fundamental difference. If there are other technical ins and outs to actually solving the problem, then those people are welcome to discuss those. But the notion that it's not possible and Ross simply doesn't know because he's not technical is disingenuous. This is absolutely possible, especially for future games, as many game developers recognize, as many software developers recognize, as Ross explains in detail. There's no expectation of technical magic here, and anybody who says that isn't listening to the arguments at all.

[@ImproperStandby]

I'm fully behind this movement, but some of y'all need to chill and keep your emotions in check when discussing or arguing. I see many people who agree/disagree just insult others for having differing views.

[@ChaosPootato]

People worried about indie games being hit confuse me. How many indie games rely on a central server and are always online only ? Any game relying on P2P is fine, any game that works offline is fine, this will NOT hurt the indie scene at all

[@lipeckih]

Thank you, Ross.

[@waterguyroks]

An important thing to take away is that companies will absolutely try to run this type of scheme for other products if they can get away with it. Video games might seem unimportant but it could certainly become a boiling the frog situation for the practice of remotely de-activating legitimately bought products

[@gijskramer1702]

Navigation systems in cars for example.

[@MK.DANABNORMAL]

In fact this is already happening. Spotify has recently announced they’re disabling their “car thing” devices they sold to consumers for their car dashboards

[@adood101]

It already is. Technology is being integrated in tons of products to act as DRM on goods that previously didn't have it. What do you think the IoT trend was all about? That didn't slow down, we just stopped talking about it.

[@RAFMnBgaming]

@@gijskramer1702 mmm. We've all heard how often Tesla have had to do "virtual recalls" of software on their cars. And most of the stuff in the cars are all run through the computer. I don't see them ever deliberately recalling people's ability to use their cars, at least not en masse like the end of the game service. However, Musk trying to use his control over this stuff to brick someone he's arguing with's car; concerningly plausible.

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Very good point

[@acurefordeath]

Thank you Ross!

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Thanks a lot Ross. I really like and appreciate this campaign.

[@atmo_dopamine]

Thank you to everyone who supports this movement. We stand up !

[@whitehorsept]

Thank you Ross, for starting the global effort and get the ball rolling.

[@aflatchestedyandere5483]

+1 for the algorythm. Thank you. Ross!

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Big thanks Ross 🙏

[@KingLich451]

Ross the Boss

[@jtfernandez5594]

Thanks to everyone involved in the stop killing games initiative, especially Ross!

[@ironraccoon3536]

Ross really is spearheading this. What an honest dude.

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Absolutely great dude , so true

[@KingLich451]

Unfortunately, noone else was interested in taking the charge.

[@Helperbot-2000]

Glad its getting more momentum

[@predabot__6778]

Algorithmic response! :) Please sign this, fellow EU-friends.

[@atmo_dopamine]

Yeah thanks man

[@christiangavingale3349]

Thanks Ross for speaking out on this and EUMS for giving him a platform. It's super important

[@Ft522]

I hope this interview gets spread pretty far.

[@KristinaStarlight]

Thanks Ross! Let's hope that this will be implemented worldwide.

[@ellenjeane]

Really informative discussion, great initiative too!

[@IpolsYoutube]

About what was said at 1:25:30 I would like to add that it's more work/trouble to release a self-sabotage patch than to think of an EOL support for most games

[@EKP41423]

Thank you Ross for your great answers!

[@Acuas]

That was great, I hope some more people that didn't know about the initiative, or didn't understand / were not sure if they wanted to support it, are now on board, we have to keep the train of different YT/streamers talking about this, and as Ross said, the more people we get from different languages to talk about this the better, let's keep this going and not fall off now that we are 1/4 of the way in 2 weeks.

[@Zecuto]

It's nice to see Ross keeping the fight

[@Themans9875]

Great Interview!

[@ybeeqs]

I'm grateful for all of these videos that continuously elaborates more on this initiative. People really need to understand that this isn't some kind of corrupt, snake oil grift that screws us over. Keep fighting the good fight! ♥

[@TheAgamemnon911]

Just over 25% in the first two weeks. This is going really well! Primary objective: Seek broader audiences and get them to sign as well - not just for games but for legislative preemptive striking against digital obsolescence practises before they reach sectors where that kind of anti-consumer policy would become really problematic.

[@pik910]

Games need to be recognized as cultural goods. To destroy them is an affront to historians, consumers and the devs and artists who pour years of their life into producing them. Cultural goods can have an emotional or intellectual value to people. When you get older it is common to seek out the games you played when you were younger and use them to remember the past, maybe understand yourself better in the process. People have relationships with games like they have with songs, e.g. it is common that a game people played with a passed away relative forms part of the remembrance of said person. We have the luxury to go back to the games of our childhood, future generations should not be deprived of this gift. For devs and historians it is important to be able to look back at the history of games. A game is always also a time capsule. What ideas have been tried, how did they work out, what paths were taken, which lost and might be worth exploring? What was the essence of what worked before? What was acceptable, how was the world perceived and portrayed, how was the future envisioned? You can track the portrayal of women in games from 90s babes to the me-too movement, look how trans characters were portrayed, you can compare how deusex played with conspiracy theories versus the realities of today. Those are puzzle pieces which help understand our history and decide the future. I have transcribed the diary of a girl in WW2 Germany, she mentioned watching a specific movie in the cinema. I could go to the internet archive and watch this comedy about 'how dating has changed' in the 1940s vs the 1900s, which provided historical context, in a medium with different strengths than text. Preservation needs to preserve as much as it can. What is interesting is for the future to decide. "The Crew contains over 1 000 real world landmarks and several major American cities." How interesting could that have been in 100 years?

[@HenryIVth]

I maybe wouldn't lean into The Crew being a real world depiction of the US, partially because of some creative decisions, like having all dirt roads be big enough for multiple cars to drive side by side on

[@Zecuto]

@@HenryIVthTBH most works of art are not completely true-to life, that would be the difference between a painting and a photo

[@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches]

It's harrowing to think that children are currently making childhood memories that may never be accessible in their futures.

[@tm5123]

@@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches Would hope people would have better memories to cherish than some fucking game they wasted their life on.

[@somephoenix4326]

Starts at about 2:45

[@Sololop]

Good luck Ross!

[@Isendure]

This initiative is the best anti-enshitification tactic I can imagine at this point.

[@minercreepmc]

Thank you Ross

[@michaelmaage]

1½ hour of goodness.. Perfect!

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Yeah man, absolutely

[@timvb2999]

I remember Diablo 3 had online only on PC and people defended it because it "worked" the best with online integration. But obviously they did it on purpose for their online auction house they had at the time and push people to use that. Blizzard claimed the game could not work offline. But then they made the PS3 and 360 versions and those ran offline perfectly. It's crazy how Diablo 3 can legally only be played offline far in the future on consoles but not on PC. If they take down the servers its completely broken. People will bring up that private servers exist but you gotta rememeber they can still DMCA those and prevent people from using those tools if they want. This really needs to change and I hope this initiative can stop companies from making more timebombed singleplayer releases with mandatory server side online.

[@shroomer3867]

Leaving a comment for the algorithm!

[@shoutoutstopaperclips6386]

Another comment for the algorithm. Thanks for keeping the train going! Hope we can get there

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

The Train is rolling, go Ross!!

[@Vrindlevine]

Interesting stuff, thanks for doing this.

[@attractivegd9531]

I signed!

[@LochNessHamster]

When people ask if an end of life plan would only be available to people who had previously bought the game, or to everyone, my immediate thought is that if the game legally has to be in a playable state after shut down, then why wouldn't the publisher just keep selling the game? They wouldn't have to spend any more money maintaining the service, and could continue to profit off the game's sales for no extra cost on their end, since the work of maintaining it would now be on the client end. That sounds like a win-win for publishers to me.

[@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches]

Good point. Yeah, with digital distribution as prevalent as it is that's an absolute win-win.

[@juancasanova8434]

@@LochNessHamster in many cases they would need to spend extra money though. If the game inherently requires a central server to run, keeping that server up does cost money that may very well not be worth it for the company. The initiative recognises that and that's why it only asks that either the game is patched out to not require that if that's a possibility, or the publisher provides something that will give people a chance to run the server themselves or replace it with something else. This is a one time action that is in fact very easy if planned ahead, rather than an ongoing cost like keeping a server up is.

[@LochNessHamster]

@@juancasanova8434 Yes, and the whole point of my statement is that if they have either patched the game so that it is no longer dependent on a central server, or given the tools and responsibility of maintaining a private server to the customers, then it will no longer cost them any money. They can just wipe their hands if the game, but continue to sell it since it is still playable. It has to be legally. They might delist it for other reasons, like expired licenses on copyrighted material that they don't own that they don't care enough to patch out. But if they have to make the game playable offline anyway, they might as well continue to profit from it as a good.

[@juancasanova8434]

@@LochNessHamster Ah right, sell a version with no central server support. Yeah that does make some sense. Depending on the case, of course. Not a bad point.

[@TheMRJGREATJ]

Support

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Support 👍🏻

[@Voyajer.]

Good discussion

[@LePajup]

Keep up the good work !

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

I've long supported this campaign when it was first focused on a global scale. I can't sign the ECI but I will support it nonetheless.

[@wolfgod6443]

Thanks for getting the word out there.

[@lend9754]

We must engage brothers and sisters. ENGAGE

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

totally, keep pushing algo

[@SofaMuncher]

Thanks for covering this!

[@enumaelish7237]

Good stuff!

[@ballinbalgruuf8198]

Thank you for this interview

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

KEEP PUSHING THE ALGORITHM 👍🏻

[@atmo_dopamine]

Keep up the push ! +1 for the Algorithm. Share this to all pls. This is still underrated !

[@ardex9677]

Nice.

[@DigitalMoonlight]

The funniest part about people bringing up MOBAs is that all MOBAs dating back to the original Aeon of Strife for StarCraft: Brood War (Map released somewhere between December 2001 and Jan 2002) have LAN play. In newer titles the LAN play is in specific tournament builds for eSports events. In other genres, often in the case of competitive games there's often a LAN build for tournaments if LAN isn't already available in the game.

[@Marvin_R]

so compliance would just mean updating the standard client to the tournament version.

[@DigitalMoonlight]

@@Marvin_R Pretty much, the tournament versions also normally unlock everything locked behind in game currency or microtransactions.

[@cristalinamay3218]

Thank you Ross and all the supporters!

[@kveller555]

Engagement for the engagement god.

[@WardenHenc]

Go get em, Ross.

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

Let’s go Ross!

[@emenesu]

'What if Steam,etc.. renames purchase to subscribe?" Then they'll lose half their customers?

[@nemamiah7832]

Go Go Gadget Algorithm

[@playground2137]

Thanks Ross

[@terrenceswiff]

Nice, nice

[@leinadreign3510]

I want to add, that the MMO Neocron (yes, it is the old german one) is still playable. Even online. The servers are run by fans, who get the permission of the righsholder as far as I know. And no, they dont demand money from the players. It is free. They release patches, run events and interact with the little community which still enjoys the game. And Im really glad about it.

[@thomkok12]

The fun thing is. Even though Wow or any other MMO with a subscription based model is protected from this by being a real service. If the game dies out, this might still save dead MMO's by allowing privates servers. You would lose your character, because you "rent" the game, but the game is still playable after it dies.

[@monoDRUNK]

keep up the good work fellas!!

[@Zageron]

Comment for the algorithm! Great interview!

[@joelbusk1727]

Hope this works

[@hellblazerjj]

Stop killing games!

[@atmo_dopamine]

Yeah 👍🏻

[@bluewho4071]

I had to miss this for work

[@samking9742]

Leaving a comment for the algorithm!

[@atmo_dopamine]

Thanks !

[@Drejzer]

1:05:30 After all GOG actually sells games. So this passing might actually be beneficial for them...

[@ScottE-2]

Timestamps to help navigate: 0:00 Starting Soon 2:11 Hello Chat [Audio check] 5:09 Interview Begins 5:49 "What is the Stop Killing Game Initiative?" 7:11 "Tell us a little about yourself" 8:07 "What sparked the idea? 9:30 "Why specifically did you target the EU?" [Warning Visual Lag] I'd normally do more but I got some stuff to take care of. Hope it helps those get into the beginning of the stream proper at least. Feel free to copy and continue from there.

[@Ash_18037]

This is a good initiative and let's hope it actually becomes a law. But I think a much more realistic approach for future games would be to aim for a law that forces them to publish the minimum expected lifespan of the game up-front, prior to purchase, on the store page. Up to this date you are guaranteed to be able to play the game, unless the company goes out of business (possibly longer if the game is profitable of course). Seeing, for example, an $80 price tag next to a date 2 years in the future will certainly cause many people not to purchase, and that is EXACTLY how it should be.

[@RetroTinkerer]

Nahh that is not what this is all about, it's also not about games being preserved inside the closed doors in a museum so some academic can do research (Like in Japan), just like I I'm sure I can read today any of the books and comics I purchased 20 years ago and Im certain I would be able to do 20 years in the future I want the same for my software, but hey we are in a democracy so that is why I signed this petition and I will actively "fight" for it. What you are saying is the bare minimum they must do ASAP so the purchase stop being a scam, I can't imagine almost any other good being sold under these terms, a car with a computer software that will render it unusable when the servers goes down, that wouldn't fly right?

[@Jan12700]

But with this you can't play the games you bought. That's the point of this initiative to still can play them after the support ended.

[@gustavosantos106]

Thanks Ross!

[@Schniebel89]

But how will companies squeeze money out of you if they can't just sell you the same game with an increased number when you can just continue playing the old one on private servers? like the FIFA games 😅😉

[@salim444]

I would have liked to have most of software under AGPL/GPL license or something of that spirit but this is at least closer to the ideal than the current situation

[@stealthzi7465]

starts at 5:18

[@Sil3ntLynx]

Keep the momentum, let's go

[@paleflame]

Comment for the algorithm from me.

[@mustno3]

This is why now I only play traditional rogue likes. They are far deeper and more satisfying games than any AAA game that has been released in the last 15 years. AND, most of the big ones are FREE, literally.

[@dangdudedan8756]

you can play games that werent made in the last 15 years too

[@mustno3]

@@dangdudedan8756 I do play those from time to time and they're still leagues better than the jokes released in the last 15 years

[@voxel5806]

thank you ross

[@valentinecure329]

Yo chat, is this guy for real? Is he really going to save the single player gamers?

[@Sololop]

He's trying his best. Watch his update videos

[@UNTHESUNTHESUNTHES]

It's worth trying, unless we want something worse than the microtransaction cuckery to happen

[@RetroTinkerer]

Well he is spearheading the initiative but we all need to sign this petition and we better share this with our family members and friends.

[@EVPointMaster]

4:32 to skip introduction

[@ASilverNMeep886]

Starts at 2:13

[@fnky]

comment for the algo oh and excellent question around 42:15 🤭

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Keep pushing mate

[@gostchiken]

For the alogorithim.

[@nurburgring-nordschleife-4ever]

Thank you

[@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches]

We must please the machine spirit.

[@zydian_]

Its good to know dafran's brother is doing well.

[@ferinzz]

Another example of a company doing the right thing. PS3 would have died a few years ago if Sony had not taken the time to remove some server validation. The console needed to sync its time with the server time so that it could determine if a game inserted into its reader had released yet or not. It's not just EOL of games, but so.many.other.products. It's partly why I specifically look for products that do not require an app to function when I'm shopping. Especially if I plan to use that product for many years.

[@rafaszmuda669]

It's kind of sad that he can't get citizenship in Poland because he don't know polish despite Poland don't demand knowing neither polish or local language knowledge from it's ambasador abroad... btw that was surprise to hear that you are living in Poland xD

[@zZnighthunterZz]

i was here

[@essmene]

After 1 month we have 250k signatures - if every person that signed gets 2 relatives and 2 friends to sign as well - we are past 1M signatures. Convince your peers to sign as well if you think this is a good idea.

[@Jan12700]

You mean 2 and a half weeks, not 1 month

[@essmene]

@@Jan12700 2 1/2 weeks in months is 0 month, 1 month, 2 months?

[@atmo_dopamine]

WHY DOES THIS VIDEO still have so few views? It worries me..

[@Jan12700]

Because it isn't a Video it's a Vod of a Stream.