STOP using quick detailers incorrectly!

If you're following the instructions on the back of your quick detailer bottle, you may still be using it wrong! Today we figure out the proper way to use a quick detailer without ruining your paint. Our advice...STOP using your quick detailers incorrectly!
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[@Esotericdetail]

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[@scottlint7016]

I use a 14 bucket wash system.

[@jamest.1095]

Noob. I use a 15-bucket method. Only takes me three days.

[@mokokoco4720]

There’s a legend that if you use 40 bucket method, your car will be invincible to getting dirty

[@Maxfli82]

You guys are doing it wrong unless you use Himalayan Glacier Water™️

[@vwgolf9826]

@@jamest.1095 Ha ha ha!

[@ActiveNorte916]

James T. 😂😂😂😂

[@roughroadrunner88]

Whenever i want to apply the 3 month detailing product, I repaint my car first in an air sealed room and put 5 inches of top coat on top of my regular top coat.

[@debbieraasch5416]

LOL

[@eliteowner121]

“How do I keep my car clean between washes? You don’t.” Thanks Todd for being blunt. Seems obvious to some of us but not the majority.

[@Gotallofthem1]

You want to know how to keep lightly soiled cars clean between wash or when you drive to a show? It's called Rinse less Wash. Perhaps you have heard of it. It comes in a foam version now too (AmmoNYC Sells a product).

[@Jeeper1378]

Rinseless wash.

[@despatcho4239]

Ken-Jeeper ONR?

[@Jeeper1378]

Despatcho Z34 yes or Mckees n-914.

[@joshua0209]

I swear I was about to buy a ton of detailers and waterless wash products before watching this video. Thanks!

[@totoro6214]

100% agree with you, it's really common sense, too... Without rinsing off the dirt/ sand/ etc on the car, we're always going to rub that crap against the car during "quick detailing". I only reserve use of detailers only after car wash and also to clean off bird poop/ bugs (after letting it sit for a few minutes then a gentle one direction wipe on my matte car)

[@tomasdubinskas]

Best detailing channel, short but very informative, straight to the point!

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you...please spread the word!

[@eriklenh]

That’s so spot on, makes absolute sense in every aspect. Super helpful, you deserve more views! Thank you

[@WatchGeek]

Yup! Finally some real info!! NOTHING beats water and soap! I clean my car once a week and been doing so for 13 years. The only marks it has are stone chips and an occasional scratch which are all what I like to call "battle scars" I use QED only after a wash and have it in the back of my car to remove bird poo, but then I saturate it A LOT more than required. Bird poo is much more dangerous than a few swirls! Ask me how I know 😓 😄

[@guy990]

Thought this would be click bait but was presented by a educated and passionate detailer!

[@j_u_ss_y]

Exactly

[@charlieryan1736]

Love your honesty 👍🏻 their is nothing easy or fast about keeping your vehicles in perfect condition

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you.

[@lilzacheus]

Great info. I was damn sure following the instructions on the back of the bottle. Thanks for the tip man. From now on I will use after washing and drying.

[@Ozzcaddy]

Thanks Todd for breaking the myth that you can use Detail Sprays in between washes or to remove light dust from the paint surface. In all the videos that I have seen, you are the only person that has said not to use a detailing spray in between washes. Use it after the car has been washed as a drying aid or after the car has been dried.

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you. We teach people based on our testing, and how we care for our personal cars...not based on how we can sell more products.

[@Adam-cn7it]

As someone new to the detailing game, thank you for making this informative video!

[@Esotericdetail]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@geodemapmap2061]

Totally agreed with your explanation in using quick spray detailer after a car washed👍🏻 , as not in those other video said directly spray, wipe and clean.

[@archiepezek]

Thanks again Todd for another informative video. Using a spray detailer on an unwashed car is the same as using one of those car dusters, where you run the car duster over the dirt and spread the dirt over your paint.

[@Esotericdetail]

That's a popular one at "car shows"!

[@cake8291]

1 min in and Damn I'm good. I was taught pretty good by a detailer and he taught us this. Man quick and to the point. Thumbs up

[@hartleytaslim3957]

At last, I found a video with the same thought as mine... Quik Detailer still has big risk of scratching the paint.. there's still dirt particles that dragged by the microfiber towel accross the surface although it has detailer lubrication with it. I usually use QD after a wash to touch up the gloss and protection. I always have a bottle of QD stand by in my car to be able to clean something quikly such as bird poo, tree sap for spot cleaning, but not a full car or a panel cleaning though..

[@cjmoore7240]

THANK YOU FOR THIS! Finally! Someone that tells it like it is! I tell people to leave their cars DIRTY! The look they give me is like I am stupid. I use Polish Angel High Gloss as my QD and LOVE IT! It's pricey but worth it! KEEP ON ROCKING!

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you! We test, we learn, and then we tell it like it is.

[@santim441]

Great explanation and info. Subscribed!

[@sanatanainfiniti4239]

Thanks. Great info, exactly what I was looking for. Got one M tech detailer from Canadian Tire today and was almost going to spray it on my dirty car and start wiping, but good thing the very first video I saw on google is a clear instruction video on how to use the Instant Detailer. One question: so wash the car, dry the car completely before applying detailer or is it okay if there is bit of water on the car from the wash.

[@Vini-Pizza]

Good video. I just listen to you on Corvette Today Podcast. Looking forward to viewing more of your videos on KZbin. Thanks!

[@Esotericdetail]

Thanks for watching (and listening!).

[@RPJs-Cuisine]

Those sprays actually work really well if use u use it correctly as u said. And work even better if u use only the amount needed. In some cases I won’t even have to go behind with a clean, dry towel.

[@alangligor]

Good video!! I’m impressed!! Keep it up!!

[@tonywilliams4302]

Well said brother!

[@krasnaludek298]

I use quick detailer spray from Griot’s & Meguiar’s ... same deal here. I don’t use the sprays if my vehicles have been sitting for a while, because you can literally hear the dust, pollen, & grime being scraped across the paint ... big NO NO!

[@bobsmithinson2050]

A good tip is to detail the inner wheel wells first (the dirtier the better) .This primes the microfiber towel with some dirt so that the dust will attract to it when you go to wipe your paint. Number one mistake is people using clean cloths without priming first.

[@gregshanahan1205]

Yeah and wipe all the particle matter from the wheels all over the paint. Great idea...........

[@bobsmithinson2050]

@@gregshanahan1205 😂 you seemed to have missed my immense sarcasm in the comment. Priming a towel with dirt? 😂

[@Gave-rf1hr]

Lmao

[@Niko-xz5lk]

@@bobsmithinson2050 Yeah, but some people really are dumb enough to follow this advice. Never underestimate people's stupidity

[@fireball7671]

Great video Todd. I cringe when I go to car shows and see the towel in the trunk (most of the time dirty) and the quick detailer come out. I leave the layer of dust on mine until the next contact wash. Sometimes I get laughed at for not wiping mine down! Lol

[@Esotericdetail]

Yes, we love seeing that as well. I always say that I'd rather have a dusty car with perfect paint than dust-free that is full of swirls!

[@Gotallofthem1]

You can use compressed air, or a Waterless Wash.

[@thewelsho]

Good advice... common sense, pretty much! Thanks!

[@xpaul9875]

Very informative and straight forward. 👍👍👍

[@Esotericdetail]

That's exactly how we like to do it! :)

[@danmulvaney4580]

But if I don't mess up my clear coat, then I've got no use for my polisher, pads, etc. What kind of fun is that?...

[@Esotericdetail]

In that case, scratch away! :)

[@1188clean]

use it on the glass

[@King88_8]

Yeah I think you got it right.. wet sanding😎

[@jonnygti]

I’m no professional car cleaner or detailer, but I’ve always done exactly this, wash properly first with a decent car shampoo, rinse, dry, and then use a detailer spray👍🏻

[@jokergs3]

Thank you for clarifying this. I constantly see idiots using this shit thinking they aren't scratching their paint 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@mikeprice8307]

THANK YOU THANK YOU!! I knew it I knew it..honesty..you couldn't have preached this better!

[@delphinebez3045]

I only use my quick detailer to clean my door jambs, and I never let them get very dirty.

[@RCGJR_]

Same here, never used on the exterior.

[@flexnlexus129]

I use it on that shitty piano black ugh I hate it

[@thewheeltroll1833]

This man speaks the truth!

[@totom5095]

Very helpful, I’ve always thought about this but with all the products on the market considered myself to be overly thinking. 👍

[@____stu____]

This man speaks the truth! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@Esotericdetail]

That's how we do it here at ESOTERIC! Thank you.

[@mikeytek]

I carry 8 clean edgeless plush towels in a closed container, 3 waffle weave towels in another container, 1 55oz pump sprayer with DI water, ONR and 3D Bead it up and another container for the dirty towels in the trunk. I always do a waterless wash every Friday after work. While not the same as a quick detailer but ONR used correctly with proper technique can be done when you arrive to the show. When I go mountain biking I bring my dewalt power cleaner and syphon water from a gallon of water to remove the heavy dirt and then finish with ONR wash 👍

[@Esotericdetail]

That's great if it works for you, but the reality is that next to nobody wants to go to that extreme...

[@mikeytek]

@@Esotericdetail thought we were detailers on here? Not really extreme as I mentioned I do this every Friday after work so it's my routine wash

[@Esotericdetail]

@@mikeytek We are educating the masses, and informing them of the realities of detailing and detailing products. Even as a detailer, I want nothing to do with an overly involved process. Give me a pressure washer and a 2-bucket method all day!

[@mikeytek]

@@Esotericdetail what's so overly involved? Once again I am able to do this outside every Friday at my jobs parking lot. Head over to local car meet right after. Pressure washing and 2 bucket method at the car show or after work is not necessarily doable. 🤷

[@Esotericdetail]

@@mikeytek We don't do "rinseless washes". There's simply nothing as safe as a traditional wash. I've seen many versions of how to "safely" use rinseless wash, and they all have strayed well away from the actual instructions and end up being nothing more than a soap once all of the convoluted processes are added. Using tons of towels, pre-mixing solutions, etc. to me just isn't worth the risk. I'd much rather go to a car gathering with a dusty car in perfect condition than a dust-free car with swirls.

[@meejmuas8686]

I spray the quick detailer with wax before I wash in the areas where water spots are prone to collect. This prevents the water from collecting on those areas so Im usually more relaxed during my washes.

[@JohnD15317]

Thanks for the vid. I personally only use quick detailers as drying aides.

[@goddardfamilyadventures]

I really appreciate this video and I’m glad I found your channel. I’ve been doing it wrong. Will sub to the channel.

[@techschmech8557]

Great info. Thanks.

[@daves485]

I’m not trying to win 1st place at a car show with my Daly driver, but it stays outside and every morning it’s soaking wet from the morning dew, I just rinse, drive to work, do a quick wipe down with quick detailer and it looks great! No swirls or scratches, I flip the rag a lot and shake it off constantly. Yes I’m the crazy guy who keeps his truck super clean, that everyone either complements or ridiculed for how clean and shiny it is Lol.

[@MichaelOnRockyTop]

I'm so glad someone finally made this point! Thank you for the video man. Quick question though. Do you think it's necessary to have both a quick detailer and a spray on sealant in my arsenal? Don't they both perform the same roles?

[@Esotericdetail]

Glad you liked it. Yes, I think you should have both. Some are going to be just basic maintenance where you'd use a QD, and some are going to be adding protection with a sealant.

[@clayboy699]

subbed after this well explained video

[@Esotericdetail]

Thanks, and welcome to the channel!

[@STREETFIGHTER50]

Thanks for clearing this up!

[@MyGoToUserName]

My between washes solution for dust typically is a quick rinse followed by using pressurized air to dry the car.

[@rskrks]

Bravo...bravo

[@DesertVan]

I bought a cheap battery operated leaf blower. Use it to blow off dust in between washes (Live in the AZ desert) and to dry after washing.

[@dvinpeace]

Thank you!!! Awesome

[@cheapgrooves5467]

Great info!

[@Englandsbestlover]

I use ONR in a squirty bottle when my car needs a quick dusting. Works great

[@revd6239]

TOTALLY agree, I found out the hard way!

[@Esotericdetail]

As have most of us!

[@owensteele1274]

@@Esotericdetail I unsubscribed to the many KZbin channels who swear by The Garry Dean Method. I used to follow The Garry Dean Method to the letter. It's a filthy process that turned my fingernails black. Every week I would fill the washbin with 30 damp, gritty, filthy microfibres and the Mrs goes ballistic! Was I doing something incorrectly? Anyway, since subscribing to Esoteric, I've been using the 2 bucket wash method. I've just seen the latest Esoteric video with the wrapped satin blue MB AMG. Great step-by-step reference showing how to have fun washing the car in complete safety.

[@Esotericdetail]

@@owensteele1274 Thank you for the great reply! We don't believe in creating overly convoluted and complicated processes just to make ourselves look "knowledgeable". Keep it simple, do it based off of thousands of hours of research and practice, and enjoy your car! If you don't mind, please be sure to share that same comment on our wash-at-home video featuring the AMG.

[@space_114v2]

Soooo correct ....GREAT ADVICE ..THX ..

[@dapoppa2256]

I agree!! I use this as the last step when I wash.

[@faber62mb36]

Todd no doubt, you’re number one channel for car detailing fans....

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you kindly, and please spread the word! :)

[@kaasman78]

Wished I saw this an hour ago. Used a QD after a correct wash...and used too much. So fatty streaks galore. Lesson learned 🤣.

[@keithooi5950]

Hi. Great video as always. What about waterless wash products? This is particularly relev to drought areas and places with water restrictions. Thanks.

[@Esotericdetail]

We feel the same way about them. People in those areas just have to accept the fact that they can't maintain near-perfect paint.

[@Gotallofthem1]

I would recommend you test it yourself. Paint correct 2 panels. Then use Waterless or rinse-less wash on one and use standard wash on the other. Once dry inspect it yourself with a nice bright light to see if there really is a difference.

[@XTR02]

I used a quick detailer two times last year. It left my car looking nice but once the shine was minimized over time, the bran new light swirls began to look obvious. That was it for me, never doing that “in between washes” again. Even if my car looks pretty clean but has some light dust after use for a few days, used two dozen clean micro fiber towels…it still left swirl marks

[@Esotericdetail]

Thanks for sharing your experience with everyone! Unfortunately most people don't see the swirls...they only see clean or dirty. I go to car shows all of the time and see people grinding away on the paint with quick detailers, and they don't even realize that they have swirls.

[@T.Mitcbree]

Late to your page but here we go now 👍🏼 So a bit of light airborne dirt and bee poop is best hosed down and dried with Detailer as drying aid, if you haven't got time for a 2 bucket wash?

[@Esotericdetail]

If doing that, you still need some kind of "washing" involved in it. If you spray it, and then wipe it down with QD, you're still grinding abrasives into the surface.

[@johnketuroskey6293]

morning todd...great vid thank you. what do u think of brians(apex detail) wash method vs the two bucket. I am sure u are familiar with it where he uses wash mitts that once used go to awaiting bucket to be washed - eliminating any chance of a "rinsed" wash mitt having any dirt/particle/grit residue possibly being reintroduced into wash process. one more ques....whats your opinion on the detail gardz grit guard vs the "standard"...thanks and be well and be safe

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you. I've heard of people doing that, but I don't really see it as a necessity. If somebody wants to buy a lot of wash mitts, we'd definitely be happy to sell them, but it's not something we'd promote. The other half of the equation is the act of wiping your wash mitt onto the surface. If not done right, either the brand new / fresh mitt or the rinsed one can mar it just as easily. As for the other product, I've never heard of them so can't comment. Thanks.

[@andersontibbetts950]

You are totally the best.

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you! :)

[@realdopewater]

Thanks. Does the quick detailer work as well/last as long when used on a wet car vs a dry (clean) car?

[@musicguitar]

Hi Todd, great informative video as always!! Any word on when the Big Boi dryers will be back in stock?

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you. They are clearing customs now, so we should have them within the next week or so. You can subscribe by entering your email into the "notify me" box on the product page. You'll then receive an automated email the moment they come back in stock.

[@managerofkisses6103]

Who else is here AFTER they used the quick detailer INCORRECTLY LOL

[@kieranthompson5687]

I’m here before I make the mistake.

[@KevinPerez-fd9xq]

🙋🏽

[@1881Gordon]

This Video is short, to the point, and most importantly... Correct. Thanks for uploading!

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you...

[@jasonsfraser]

Todd, sorry for resurrecting an old video commentary, and I’m sure you’ve forgotten more about detailing than I’ll ever know but, my experience of rinse-less systems (ONR) is absolutely at odds with your advice that between wash touch-ups introduces swirls etc. I use ONR on a carbon black (midnight blue) BMW and an Orca black Audi and I’ve looked at the paint under a sunmatch 3 lamp and a flex dwl2500 light pre / post using ONR and it didn’t introduce swirls…..I also checked with optimum whether there were any fillers in ONR (there aren’t)…..maybe you could do a panel test video sometime so that you could validate whether swirls are/aren’t introduced. Obviously, I’m talking about a dusty rather than dirty car and Optimum claim that encapsulation is a primary reason why the paint doesn’t swirl…..would be great to see the results in a controlled environment. 👍

[@Esotericdetail]

Light marring that builds up over time cannot be captured on camera or video, so it's really pointless to try to do a video just for that. You also have to look at the educational aspect from the fact that we are talking to the general public, and the masses. Imagine somebody who is not a detailing enthusiast (the majority of society) grabbing a bottle, reading that it won't scratch the finish, then going to town on their car only to scratch it up. If you personally can do a technique that works well, then good for you, and keep doing it. But we don't use it here in the shop or on our personal cars because we simply don't want to risk it. If the car needs to be cleaned, we wash them...

[@jasonsfraser]

@@Esotericdetail Thanks for the reply. I Hadn’t taken on board the general public aspect…..recently watched a detailing video of a guy who had dropped off his Aston DB11 for a new car detail….it had rained so he thought he’d wipe it down with an old dry chamois prior to dropping the car off…..the detail became a multi-stage paint correction booking 😂😂. Thanks for the channel and videos Todd….they’re great…..and I know you’re one of the best facilities in the US (I’m UK based). I often see very positive comments about the quality of your work on the Porsche Rennlist site 👍

[@Esotericdetail]

@@jasonsfraser Thank you kindly!

[@Esotericdetail]

@@alexs8312 We don't use them on our personal cars, either...we wait until the next time to wash. It's our responsibility as educators to let them know the truth behind products and processes, regardless of their level of enthusiasm for it. The biggest culprits of this are those who actually are enthusiasts...just go to the car shows and see. You don't have to make the paint on a daily driver an obsession, and that's where many people have the wrong mindset about detailing and protection. You CAN have a highly detailed vehicle that is a daily driver. All is requires is the know-how of a proper wash system, and not making mistakes like stated in this video. Then you get the pride of ownership throughout the entire process without having to go crazy with the car, and you can still hold the higher value.

[@HydraDnB]

I use Gyeon QD and it is super glossy and easy to use…also was pretty cheap like 15-17€ / 1 liter

[@joeMW284]

I use quick detailer on my motorcycle because I don't like hosing it down on the regular. Water gets places where it should't be and I end up with corrosion in hard to reach places. I polish the tank and the fenders with some compound every couple years and it very easily removes the light scratches. Overall I think this method keeps the bike looking fresher than if I washed it all the time.

[@jgboys1]

I use my quick detailer right after it rains. I spray it right on the wet paint and clean it with a clean microfiber towel and then dry it with a clean microfiber towel. It always comes out great. A lot of gloss and slickness.

[@Esotericdetail]

You need to be careful and mindful when doing it this way, because you can still have dust / dirt / debris on the paint that can cause light marring on the surface.

[@Dejan_23Unlimited]

Completely make sense Todd. Just one q, is it the same for the cars with PPF ?

[@Esotericdetail]

Despite the fact that PPF has self-healing capabilities, we still prefer to avoid it.

[@joemessman1]

I have Lumar PPF on my car and use quick detailer and no scratching at all. Looks just as good as the day the PPF was applied. I use Beadmaker as my quick detailer by the way.

[@intothedetails1972]

Thank you for being a voice of reason in the quick detailer debate. Great products but they have to be used when appropriate and not as a substitute for a 2 bucket wash.

[@Gotallofthem1]

Oh boy, you think that a 2 bucket wash is the utmost best way of doing things?

[@intothedetails1972]

Gotallofthem1 non contact first of course but it won’t take care of everything.

[@4000mack]

Thanks!

[@zeketv23]

I knew about this before already because of my old car. I clean it before washing just to make it clean all week. I realized that the swirls probably coming from the dirt when wiping it off with a towel. Now I leave my car all dirty without wiping it off until the next car wash. It looks clean looking without a swirls. Also for a quick wash, Go to a touchless carwash.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

I use quick detailers as drying aid

[@tupapi818247]

This man speaks the truth but I really don’t care . I’m an avid detail waterless quick fix car enthusiast and constantly get compliments on my 20 yr old Tahoe’s paint ,shine and overall appearance ! Coworkers and strangers alike are always asking how I manage to keep my old truck looking better and newer than the most current year models ! I mean sure there’s superficial swirls and a few imperfections but hardly noticeable to the average 85/90 % of the people I come in contact with and I’m ok with that!

[@BionicRusty]

Absolutely 👍

[@markrnd]

Thank you!! Finally, someone points out the truth about quick detailer!!!

[@marekbrzezinski9551]

ok my cars is wax coated 2 times a year with soft99 fusso, i wash my car 2 bucket, 1 time in a month, and in between I wash it on high pressure washers every week. should I use QD after high pressure wash?

[@masterpolir6145]

Hello, I use BSD after car wash every wash. When drying. Do I then have to dilute it with water in a 1:1 ratio?

[@TeslaWorld]

Do you recommend a product to use after a repaint that will allow for fresh paint to off gas and leave a small amount of protection behind before you can do a wax/sealant/ceramic coating to the car OR is it better to let the paint be fresh get slight swirls and do a one step before laying down protection? Thank you for your time!

[@Esotericdetail]

I'd let it settle, then polish, then coat/wax/seal when the time is right.

[@bobclapper2672]

This is Advice Every car owner should hear !

[@Esotericdetail]

Thank you Bob...please share it with everybody you know to help spread the word! :)

[@c6z061]

Great video, I've ALWAYS thought the same! I've thought the same about rinseless washing, not a fan. 2 bucket or nothing.

[@autodbacz9131]

I using quick detailer after every wash 😍

[@tonymanero5544]

Then why not apply a ceramic spray that beads water for 3 months. Almost dame effort as a detailer spray.

[@arloowens4886]

I just use the Lucas spray detailed cause you can use it wet just for lubricant while I am drying the vehicle works amazing even on glass. Is just mist the micro fiber towel. But like he said I never use it to wipe down a dusty car. Only as I am drying it. I don’t rely on it to protect it. I just use it to aid in not scratching the vehicle while drying

[@bluerineimb1148]

Lol loved reading the comments & replys sacassiem is so funny but realy makes you see how over the top things are

[@AK-ui1zl]

I’ve been preaching this forever. You should’ve seen all Renny’s detail mafia guys using bead maker as a waterless wash at The Quail 2019. All the cars there looked like crap. I prepped 4 lambos and a new ford GT for the show using feynlab pure rinseless. Needless to say all my cars looked the best. Two of the lambos even made the thank you email and the ticket sales email for this year.

[@tyquanwashington.8510]

I polish my car twice a year so I'm not too worried about ultra fine scratches that occur from using a quick detailer. This dude is 100% correct though.. This will leave scratches.

[@TheBucketOfTruth]

Two questions: What about cars with paint protection film? And if you have a ceramic coating on top of it? Would this be okay to use the quick detailer the "wrong" way as you describe here? 2nd question: Where do you buy nice microfiber towels like that? All I seem to find are glorified polyester napkins.

[@IncognitoBeing]

I always like myth busters. One more related query:- I just finished coating my vehicle with Collinite 845. Now in between those shampoo washes, I was thinking of using a quick detailer like sonax BSD after water rinsing the vehicle to get rid of light dust. Will that also be an invitation to swirls?

[@Esotericdetail]

If it's "garage dust", then that would be OK. If it's "driving dust", then not so much. Chances are good that stuff you pick up from driving isn't going to just fall off with a quick rinse, therefore leaving you with a high risk of swirl potential over time.

[@alanholmes2366]

Collinite 845 provides an awesome gloss and is very hydrophobic for a wax. It’s simply awesome stuff and fairly economical! Great choice!

[@timbrown9731]

Todd, is this different vs say a waterless wash , I use ONR currently in my area of CA we are going through another drought.

[@Esotericdetail]

We're not fans of waterless washes...

[@juanmele6398]

What if you dust the car and then use quick deatailer

[@xFlowRS]

Can you use Gyeon QuickDetailer without gloves? What do you use to wash hands in general, after using car care products such as silicon oxide infused shampoo?

[@Esotericdetail]

Yes you can. We do not use SiO2 shampoos here at the shop...

[@xFlowRS]

@@Esotericdetail Neither do I, but I saw friend use Gyeon Bathe+, and I was seriously considering it, after I saw the hydrophobic properties. I guess I'll stick to my 2€ Sonax :)

[@cmathis1]

Finally, the answer to why quick detailer after every short drive is a bad idea. The black paint on my car thanks you.

[@Esotericdetail]

Thanks for watching!

[@card1575]

I fucked mine up

[@fcg243]

I agree, however, you may be able to clean a car using a waterless wash like Adams waterless wash and detailer or AMMO NYC. Just spray and remove the dust with ONLY one wipe using the JUST the clean side of a waffle weave microfiber towel and not reusing it until the whole car is done. I use a total of 3 to 4 rags and wash them in the washing machine every time after use. I only do this when I drive the car for less than 100 miles and is just a bit dusty. With black paint, is inevitable creating small scratches to it but swirl marks will never be created if doing it correctly. For scratch free surface, is always good to do a full paint correction and ceramic coat or sealant even if the car is brand new.

[@thatguy1119]

No matter how clean your towel is or how thick the suds are, if you drag contaminants like dust and little sand particles you ARE going to scratch your paint. It might be minor but it will scratch.

[@liikemiess]

Nice video

[@Niko-xz5lk]

Excellent video. Personally I've always used QD on a wet car as part of the drying process. A lot of these waterless wash & wax sprays look too good to be true as well. By the way, what's your opinion on contactless car washing? If a car isn't particularly dirty, can you high pressure rinse, snow foam and high pressure rinse again as some suggest? Also, if I do this, is it really safe to dry the car after with a microfibre or chamois? Your thoughts would be greatly welcomed.

[@Esotericdetail]

If I'm not truly washing the car, there's no way that I am rubbing a towel on it! You could do what we call a Rinse/Foam/Rinse, then blow dry it, but just no towels.

[@Niko-xz5lk]

@@Esotericdetail Thank you! Appreciate that. I'll probably get a leaf blower for the job 👍🏻

[@swansong007]

Good sound advice. I can now see that detailers are not a good thing and not needed really.

[@tonymanero5544]

In my view, wash your car. Once a year, iron spray, tar spray, and clay, or do that every every 2 years. Then light wash car again. Apply a good sealant or do a paint polish + sealant. Then apply a newgen ceramic spray coating. Then apply a 2nd ceramic spray coating next day. It’s 1/2 day’s work, but paint is fully protected. The afterwards, wash car as you like. Every 3 months, do a really thorough wash, and every 6 months do sealant + spray coat. Quick detailing isn’t necessary.

[@johnboy5632]

Todd.....what's your opinion on using ONR in between washes.......then finish with a detailer spray???

[@Esotericdetail]

Not a fan...

[@javonlowen5736]

So I use Meguiars Waterless Wash to go over any spots I missed in my drying process after a wash. Should I stop using it and use a quick detailer instead like you said?

[@Esotericdetail]

For that application, either would work fine.

[@REEVES636]

AMEN!