Stop Waiting For Tesla Model 3 Buy a Model S TODAY! 5 Reasons Why

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After having a Tesla Model 3 for a month I've concluded I would rather buy a Tesla Model S if I were in the market for car today. Here are my reasons, let me know what you think in the comments or don't, either way this is my reasoning...
// screens / interior
* 2 screens vs 1
* instrument cluster w/ navigation
* clarity of screen and camera
* layout and design
// Storage Space / Hatchback style
* double the storage space 30cu vs 15cu
* huge hatchback with wide opening
* bigger frunk
// Software
* Model 3 Missing Features still
* No camper mode
* Navigation slow
* Missing energy maps / projections
// Performance
* 2.5 - 4.2 vs 4.6 (measured by drag times)
// Free supercharging
* Obvious Benefit, especially on trips
* Saves a ton over time
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// BONUS! Delivery Timeline
* 1-2 weeks vs 12-18mo
* Timelines just pushed back to late 2018 for standard option
Price
* Tons of Model S under 60K
* Might not get the latest and greatest, but still more car for your money in my book
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What is Tesla Model 3? (wikipedia.org)
The Tesla Model 3 is a mid-size all-electric four-door luxury sedan manufactured and sold by Tesla, Inc.[1] According to Tesla officials, the standard Model 3 delivers an EPA-rated all-electric range of 220 miles (350 km) and the long-range model delivers 310 miles (500 km).[7] The Model 3 has a minimalist dashboard with only a center-mounted LCD touchscreen.[11]
Within a week of unveiling the Model 3 in 2016, Tesla said they had taken 325,000 reservations for the car, more than triple the number of Model S sedans sold by the end of 2015. These reservations represent potential sales of over US$14 billion.[12][13] By August 2017, there were 455,000 net reservations, and an average of 1,800 reservations were being added per day.[14][15]
Limited production of the Model 3 began in mid-2017, with the first production vehicle rolling off the assembly line on July 7, 2017,[16][17][18] and the official launch and delivery of the first 30 cars on July 28.[19] Customer deliveries totaled 1,764 units in 2017.[20][21] Tesla's initial target for making 5,000 vehicles per week was March 2018,[22][23] but by early 2018, that was carried over to the end of June.[24]
Tesla stated that the Model 3 carries full self-driving hardware to be optionally enabled at a future date.[25][26][27]
What is Tesla Model S? (wikipedia.org)
The Tesla Model S is a full-sized all-electric five-door, luxury liftback, produced by Tesla, Inc., and introduced on June 22, 2012.[13] It scored a perfect 5.0 NHTSA automobile safety rating.[14] The EPA official range for the 2017 Model S 100D,[15] which is equipped with a 100 kWh (360 MJ) battery pack, is 335 miles (540 km),[16] higher than any other electric car.[17][18] The EPA rated the 2017 90D Model S's energy consumption at 200.9 watt-hours per kilometer (32.33 kWh/100 mi or 20.09 kWh/100 km) for a combined fuel economy of 104 miles per gallon gasoline equivalent (2.26 L/100 km or 125 mpg‑imp).[19] In 2016, Tesla updated the design of the Model S to closely match that of the Model X. As of October 2017, the following versions are available: 75D, 100D and P100D.[20]
In 2013, the Model S became the first electric car to top the monthly new car sales ranking in any country, twice leading in Norway, in September and December 2013[21][22][23][24] and also in Denmark in December 2015.[25] Global Model S sales passed the 200,000 unit milestone early in the fourth quarter of 2017.[26] The U.S. is its leading market, with about 119,000 units delivered through December 2017.[27][28]
The Tesla Model S was the top selling plug-in electric car worldwide in 2015 and 2016,[27][29][30] and by the end of 2017 continued to rank as the second-most sold electric car in history after the Nissan Leaf.[26]
The Tesla Model S was the 2013 World Green Car of the Year, 2013 Motor Trend Car of the Year, Automobile magazine's 2013 Car of the Year, Time Magazine Best 25 Inventions of the Year 2012 award and Consumer Reports top-scoring car in its road testing. In 2015, Car and Driver named the Model S the Car of the Century.[31] After not recommending the Model S in 2015 due to poor reliability, one year later, Consumer Reports added the car to its recommended list.[32][33]

[@Heavyheadinternation]

I don't want to be obvious here but if people could afford the S or X they would probably buy one, the 3 is there for people who can't. That's the whole point of it.

[@worldhello1234]

The bulk of the Model S aren't exactly more affordable than a used Model S and the later is more suitable for driving by yourself. Furthermore you can rebuild a slightly damaged Model S for the price of base Model 3 and there are better options for the price of a base Model 3 available if the horizon is broad enough.

[@entropy22]

O i dissagree. If you want model 3 today you will probably have to spend around 55k and you can find used 3-4 years old model S for even 45k online.

[@mouseanalyse]

Nope. Fully specced 3 P100D is tempting, but I think it will be a new Model S 75D nonetheless. Much more practical, nicer interior and a lot more elegant. Especially the big hatch is something I couldn’t miss, coming from a Mercedes Estate.

[@Snsnsnxbn]

The 3 alone is already expensive so...

[@kenguan2983]

It looks like you didn't watch the entire video.

[@derrickludwig]

First of all Ben, I love your channel, I respect your opinion and commentary. However, it does seems that you are forgetting what it is like not to be a EV owner. Most of your 5 reasons do not mean much to me. For example: Paying .20 cent / Kwh for fuel is so much cheaper than petrol. Lower maintenance cost on an EV versus ICE, sounds great me. I am no EV expert by any means, but I am slowing learning all about it. I will hang in with my reservation for Model 3, and see where I go from there. - Thank again, Rick.

[@thanatophoric]

I have a 2015 Model S & 2018 Model 3--I LOVE both. Model 3 software is still a bit incomplete. S is a much larger car but has 3" less head room. You can't go wrong with either car. Let cost, size, style, & patience guide your choice.

[@choppichoochoo]

Huge factor for those with good posture !

[@choppichoochoo]

3 inches less headroom, that is a decider for me. If I can't maintain good upright posture and still see tees and clouds, I'll go with a honda or a toyota with no electric chair. Motorized driver's seats take away a couple inches of headroom and view. Moonroofs another couple inches. Tall people will eventually become hunchbacks as a result of these strange designs.

[@lilricky2515]

Translation: "Please stop ordering Model 3's, you're pushing back my delivery date for my free Tesla Roadster" ;)

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

you got me!

[@fentol8936]

lilricky2515 lmaoo

[@Schmidtstone]

I still want the Model 3. For me it's even better to wait longer because I'm in the middle of moving and college and so on. So if I must wait longer I can get more money to pay my Model 3 =D So yeah, I'm sticking with that.

[@konczk]

I'm starting to think the Nissan Leaf is the way to go. The model 3 is currently a 60.000 dollar car, whereas the Nissan is half that and you don't have to pay 5000 bucks just to activate something that is already built into the car. Nissan's propilot is pretty good, the car looks great and has decent range. If you want the longer range model, it will probably still arrive earlier than any model 3 you might order today.

[@romanticdonkey468]

The Nissan Leaf does not have active thermal management for the batteries, which greatly reduces their life and performance. I would never suggest buying an EV that doesn’t control battery temperature. Leaf vs a fully loaded Model 3 is a silly comparison.

[@Electroshock]

Greetings Ben, from another electric mobility channel specialized in Volkswagen in Spain. I suscribe!!

[@michaelpickel9534]

Ben, all good comments and considerations, but the current Model S is sort of getting "long in the tooth," as they say. If Telsa wants to attract more buyers to the Model S, a major "refresh" is in order. Where as the Model 3 has more advanced technology, better headroom, cleaner instrument panel, not as large (for many of us, that's a plus!). While there is a wait, with each month of wait, there's a chance of improved software and other changes to the Model 3 options (there's a rumor that additional colors are coming out in summer). I can wait and I'm nearly 70 years old!

[@AlanMaignan]

I'll stick with the model 3 for the price. After waiting for 2 years, it is not a few more months that makes the difference. Maybe 2 years ago, that would have been a reason to buy a model S CPO but not now.

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

Those are CPO prices now, in a year or so when your M3 is delivered that same cpo MS will be 2/3 the current price. With free supercharging itll undoubtedly be cheaper to own over the life of the vehicle.

[@Marcin25981]

You can get Model S for 30K unlimited supercharging, you can put 300K miles on the electric motor and it will not even feel it. Trust me you will be wishing you had it.

[@soundanswer]

Buying a Model 3 for autopilot and eventual FSD, more room than my current Kia Optima hybrid, access to supercharger network (which is way cheaper in IL than CA) and the over cost savings of home charging vs. gas and also the tax rebate for savings. The lack of instrument cluster is a complete non-issue for me. The other points you bring up will all be fixed in software anyhow. Also I like the smaller external size living in the city. To get the features I really want I would have to spend 30k more on a Model S. CPO isn’t an option, because the older models don’t have the features I want. At that rate I would prefer to buy a Model X to get the full use of the interior space, 3 rows etc.

[@yogman10]

That's honestly a huge component for me as well: I want second generation autopilot for the possibility of full self driving. I just couldn't bring myself to pay the same or more than a Model 3 to get a Model S with first generation autopilot, which will never get the updates gen 2 will.

[@MrArtist7777]

Thanks for the vid, Ben, however, most people, like myself, want a smaller car than the S, like the M3 and want a new car for the $35k price tag, not a used car that is simply too big.

[@DrFairlie]

Hey Ben, greetings from Spain!! I really enjoy your videos, I thinks exactly like you, and I was 2 days ago in the tesla store in BCN, and the next day, did the drive test; I loved it! So, I'm waiting for the financial risk evaluation, and then, buy the model S! Be sure that I'll use your code for free SC; for me that point, the superchargers is the most important to get the model S and no wait any longer for the model 3.

[@bluehawksecurity]

I did the same thing. Did not like the size, performance, and wait for the model 3. I basically did everything in my power to buy a new MS 75D. And so glad I did that. What a badass car!

[@ronaldb479]

Problem is that in Canada the used Model S is still $90K and up, so the option is the Model 3 (for price). Would love a Model S though.

[@emmettlockman1275]

The reason model 3 isn’t a hatchback-Elon wanted to increase the rear headroom. There is no bar across your head like there is in model S. As for why I chose the model 3: lower replacement part costs ( self presenting door handles are $800/ea, for example. I believe insurance is lower because of the steel components. It’s smaller size makes it easier to park in LA. And of course, there’s a full new car warranty.

[@dansanger5340]

They could have lifted the roof profile to deal with the headroom issue on a hatchback.

[@helmuth.p]

Watching the video sitting in my Model X while free supercharging... 🤷‍♂️ Have my reservation for the Model 3 though. But going to wait for the dual motor and (if available) with standard range battery as our second car...

[@marlopez8792]

I’m definitely won’t buy a used Model S or X. While sure those may seem more “luxurious”. They don’t have AP2. That’s right there is one reason I won’t get one. Another reason is the size of the S and X. They’re just too large! The Model 3 fits on more of the streets that I drive on. Also while sure it would nice to have free charging when I have to use a supercharger. 20 cents/kWh in comparison to buying petrol is still an impressive price difference!

[@troy7774]

This video is misleading. People who want the Model 3 are not shopping for a new Model S 100D. They might consider a used Model S 85 but guess what, the Model 3 LR has better performance and a lot of more range than a Model S 85. The Model 3 LR has 4.7s 0-60 and the Model S 85 has 5.4s. Also, the Model 3 LR has 260 mi range at 75 mph and the Model S 85 has 199 mi. The biggest mistake people make when comparing S to 3 is to compare the wrong cars. People are incorrectly comparing the 75, 85 or 90 kWh Model S versions to the Model 3 LR. Those are not comparable. Only the Model S 100D is comparable to the Model 3 LR. Both of these cars scored 455 mi range at 48 mph in EPA dyno tests. The Model S 85 is comparable to the $35K Model 3 SR. Both have the same real-world range but the Model 3 SR has better performance and newer technology. If you buy a used S85, you would pay more than $35K for the same range, worse performance, and older technology.

[@tyranelewis7763]

Model S for everything you said. My wife has a i3 Rex that we love and i am considering a used model S for all the reasons you explained. just trying to figure out what to do with my 2018 Countryman S ...lol. Thank you for your video and keep them coming

[@taipeiracer]

Very well stated and I totally agree. The same thoughts went through my head before I bought my Model S last year.

[@EternalTL2k3]

Real reason why Ben wants you to buy a Model S - He can't get referral awards if you are buying a Model 3

[@shahaan400]

Most People Will Go For The 40K model 3. To Get a Base S with premier package it's almost 83k without tax. 90k with tax. The Reason why people will get the 3 is cuz of the price. The model S is too expensive with not alot of difference. More than double

[@sc3140]

Love your honesty...thx 4 sharing!

[@fruitloopette69]

Nice arguments and perspective, thanx.

[@joetripp123]

The biggest issue for me is size. My wife doesn’t like to drive big cars or trucks. Plus we both work at the same place that has a small parking garage with small parking spaces. That said I have been watching the used 85’s for a good deal.

[@dannyrusso8279]

I had my finger ready to press "enter" to complete the reservation for the Model 3 the first day orders were taken, when the wife talked me out of it. Turns out it was a very good decision. I would not have considered it, had I known it was not a true hatchback. Hopefully, by the time I'm ready to sell my MS (ordered, with delivery next month) they will have released something like the Model 3, only with a hatchback. Other than that, for my taste, I think the Model S is an all around better looking car, exterior-wise.

[@Michael-ur6ye]

Great video! Keep up the good content! :)

[@charmitoredrico6949]

The only reason why most people wants the model 3 is because it's affordable! You can have a million more reason and still you cannot convince most people to buy the model S since we cannot afford it!

[@entropy22]

Charmito Redrico m3 might be affordable once promised low range for 35k is available. Right now m3 is around 55k without autopilot. So if i were to buy Tesla NOW i would search for used mS without doubt.

[@miche6568]

I agreed. My reservation was delayed twice. For standard battery, I have to wait until mid 2019. Three weeks ago decided to put 1k down on a CPO S and finally getting my delivery next week.

[@mayankgupta6161]

Hi Ben! Can you do a video on how Tesla burning cash going to affect the company and its consequences. Always like your videos. Looking forward for your reply!

[@Kimmer]

Interesting video. I've been considering a Model 3 reservation for the future and hadn't considered a Model S. But for now, I went with the affordable Bolt EV 5 months ago and absolutely love it! There should be good options for EVs in the next few years. I'm waiting to see how the Model 3 production goes.

[@TheMikecho]

Thanks for your information. I own s and i got invitation for long waiting model 3 . Now I prefer used model s for second car.

[@darmou]

I've already put my model 3 reservation in late June 2016, I was recently disappointed by being bumped back a delivery window but there is one big disadvantage with the S. It's a big car, and as such is not great for city parking.

[@darmou]

Hey Arthur, was not trying to be mean, just saying that a model s is not the best car for everyone. I think if you live in the suburbs like Freemont for example or a rural area, the model s is definitely a better deal.

[@thomhidd]

I have watched the majority of your videos over the last year or so and used to share your excitement and anticipation awaiting delivery of your Model 3 order. Now that you have yours, it made the anticipation of the delivery of my 3 closer. To hear you tell everyone not to bother with the 3 and go for an S instead was truly disappointing. My delivery estimation has been moved from "Late 2018" to "Mid-2018" and also gives me battery and drive options that weren't available previously. I am sticking to the Model 3 rather than spend much more money on a used vehicle equipped with all the options I can afford on a Model 3.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

It's still a great car, my perspective is biased. If it were really 35K I think it's a good buy, at 60K I think it makes sense to get an S instead

[@ankitmahajan5397]

Great informational video, I looked into it too and realized that it's much better to buy a used Model S than a new Model 3

[@dancchang]

All great points, Ben! The only thing I would add is exterior styling. The Model S is simply gorgeous from any angle. The Model 3 is a good looking car, but it looks positively frumpy in comparison. Keep up the good work!

[@Owsryudie]

I will go for model 3, but I will have to wait. That's a no brainer for me atm.

[@toddmarrs8916]

I’m sorry to tell you but there are actually people out there that don’t live in California or Florida and can’t always afford a $50,000 car. In a lot of places with lower incomes $35,000 is pushing it. Only with the low maintenance and high efficiency does it make sense to buy a $35,000 car. Plus if your going for practicality rather than luxury in your decision the model 3 is much cheaper on the low end and is even more efficient.

[@BryceLovesTech]

I was just browsing Autotrader it's frustrating me teslas will not go below about 38K for a model S. The funny thing is a Chevrolet bolt prices are dropping, there's a ton of them now at 25K

[@bturk6542]

Would you recommend buying a used model S vs New model S. And would you like to buy one with autopolit?

[@kurtp2003]

Can't really argue with your points, and I'd love to have an S. But I can't afford one, and don't see myself being able to in the near future. A Model 3 would be hard to afford for me, but it might be achievable. I can give up some of the niceties of the S if I can get a long rang electric car for almost half the price. As for used, the ones on offer to date in the same price range as Model 3 have less range, which matters to me. Also, I prefer the new facia and it seems like quality is better on newer vehicles.

[@jeffletourneau4793]

Man ty u make great videos

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

+Jeff Letourneau 🤘

[@jeffletourneau4793]

Teslanomics by Ben Sullins I stumbled across your videos by random chance I barely knew what a Tesla was but because of what I've been watching and what I've learned over the past month or so I'm all about it I just got into cryptocurrencies November of last year I already see the potential and the greatness and it's going to be one day and now thanks you when I'm financially able to I will be buying a Tesla of some kind I am all about it and I love the technology and how all the vehicles are designed they have great warranties may seem like a really good company and I'll never have to buy gas ever again thank you again for everything keep up the good work

[@TheGizmodude]

$96K Canadian for a base Model S 75D .. the US to Canadian exchange rate is a killer.. we do have however in the province of Ontario a $14K tax credit which is very helpful .. Been looking at CPO and still just out of reach at the moment.. hopefully will be able to pull the trigger on a CPO Model S soon..No Model X CPO available other than new demo inventory.. and those prices are still dear...if your not too concerned about the latest features , Tesla has a great reputation for customer satisfaction on CPO inventory.. and a great deal can be found to get out of gas/oil/maintenance and anything that can go wrong from the tail pipe to the radiator cap.. can't wait to break free.. Cheers great Channel .. Cheers from Waterloo , Ontario Canada !

[@ColiP2408]

A used model s in Australia starts around 100k mark. If I could afford the s I would definitely get it. But it's all about living within your means.

[@siclusiferx]

Nice video and good argument, but the deciding factors are of course the model and year of the Tesla S. From your experience what do you think that we should pay attention to when buying a second hand around 2015 p80-85+ model? I mean with normal fuel cars the milage and the year of manufacturing/first Registration are the most important factors, so would you consider them as important in the tesla S too? Thanks

[@jacksonbangs6603]

Great video. I am currently driving a used Nissan Leaf that I purchased about 1.5 years ago. The leaf was price at $7,000 with all 12 bars of battery capacity. For me this car is great for hauling bicycles and yard equipment. Yes the leaf has a way shorter range than a Tesla Model S, but it offers quit a bit at for under $8,000 dollars. Yes, I even use my leaf to do yard work and deliver firewood. In the end I think the used Nissan Leaf pays for itself.

[@StrombockNino]

Totally agreed! That are the reasons, why I switched from Model 3 reservation to a Model S

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

good call

[@markwatanabe83]

I did the same.

[@charleslu7044]

Me three...

[@davidpena9380]

Those are the reason*

[@McSaggler]

Same! MS 75D :)

[@RenManinJapan]

It’s a no brainer.. I live in Japan and test drove a model S 2 weeks ago.. I get 0.5% financing.. and can do a 10 year loan on a 110,000$ car... the model 3 will not arrive in Japan until late 2019.. I can’t even make a reservation for it! I wish I got incentives like in US.. I get no tax on the car.. and not having to pay inspection costs for 3 years.. but still costs me full price.

[@AmperageY]

Damn if only I had these options could probably even get a Model X P110D all fully upgraded

[@chrisnemat]

How the hell do you get a 10 year loan

[@opinionator3884]

And why would you want one? Buy an Accord, the money you save will buy a tanker full of gas. Heck, buy an Accord Hybrid and invest the difference.

[@campelodemagalhaes]

Living in a European city (Porto, Portugal), a enormous car like the Model S in off the table. How could I squeeze it in a small street downtown, even with radar support? Impossible. I would buy Model 3 even if they costed the same!

[@campelodemagalhaes]

I know Najee. I wrote "I would buy Model 3 even if they costed the same!". And I know it will not, so my choice is obvious ;)

[@mlevesque33]

I'll still wait for the Model 3. I won't buy a used 2015 85D for over 70k CAD.

[@elsamuraiguapo]

Am I the only one though that doesn't like the idea of "used" items? If it's the same price I'd rather have a brand new model 3 than a used S. Moreover, as many have mentioned price is a factor. I'm getting the base with the upgraded interior. So $40k. I may not get full tax credits but I'll probably get something. Plus the CA $2,500 rebate. So we're back to around $35k. What model S is gonna beat that price. Also, if I have a little extra cash I can get the base 3 with AWD which should be around a 5k upgrade. So for $45k I can get a a NEW Tesla with similar performance to the S.

[@farmerfry785]

Yeah, it'd be a different story if the "used" option was a used model that had been around for 10 years and been completely debugged by the time my used model was built. But personally I'm not super excited about hopping into a 2012,13 or 14 model as an "early adopter" car as a used car buyer in order to hit 60k. While the previous owner MAY have gotten all the bugs fixed by the Service Center? They were most likely still figuring out material preferences and it may not be the S in it's best form. Also to compare a potentially degraded battery that originally had at max 260ish miles of range to a new battery that has at max 310 miles of range because they're both around 60k (despite the size of the car). Not really a comparable performance characteristic between an used, early S and a new long range 3. There are definitely a lot of variables in comparing these two potential paths, and I suppose my perspective as a previous non-Tesla owner who doesn't live in California and wasn't able to pick up his model 3 months ahead of the rest of the country is slightly different than Ben's.

[@elsamuraiguapo]

Andy Fry yeah I agree about the battery. It's kind of like if you buy a used ICE auto you're getting a bunch of parts that already have wear and tear on them and will likely need repair/service a lot sooner than a new car would. This depends on how old and how used of course, but one the nice things about a brand new car Tesla or otherwise is that when you drive off it if anything goes wrong with it it will likely be covered under a warranty. So you can have peace of mind for at least a couple of years. Getting a used car in feel from the very beginning like it's a ticking time bomb before something goes wrong and I'm SOL.

[@oscarsilva80]

Your points are valid, but you also have to look at the advantages of the M3. A CPO for the same price most likely won’t have autopilot or the next generation seats (the old seats are very uncomfortable for longer trips). If you have the money and want to get in a Tesla now.

[@brucepmiller]

A surprising number of Model S owners say they prefer the Model 3 even with its "quirks." The reason they mostly cite is the size difference. The common refrain is Model S is a "land yacht" whereas the the Model 3 is a better fit since most of the time people drive in an envoriment where a smaller car is easier to maneuver. Also, we are impatient by nature. Who remembers that Elon moved up the expected delivery date early on based on the overwhelming number of reservations?

[@mberrow]

Bruce Miller But is it really easier to maneuver? The specs I found say that the turning circle is actually a bit *larger*

[@JayPase]

1st reason = interior (you really boiled this down to just having a second monitor) but what about the Model 3's superior driving position ? Sitting in a Model S is like sitting in a coffin with those massive A pillars and low windshield it's very dark and foreboding. Model 3 has coat hooks and better arm rest positions. I've heard from many Model S/X owners the Model 3 interior is an upgrade over their own cars which is why Tesla fans & owners alike believe the interiors will be refreshed in S/X before this time next year to make it superior to Model 3. 2nd reason = hatchback opening is great when you're buying a TV . . . that is the ONLY time I've ever needed/wanted a hatchback 3rd reason = software eh (O.T.A. update much ?) Shocked Bunjamin would bring this up as a negative as he knows (better than most) that software changes on Tesla's like Beyonce changes hairstyles. 4th reason = performance (AWD Performance Model 3 at O-60 in 3 seconds will compete w/ P90 D S&X) 5th reason = supercharging ain't super if you have to wait in line to do it. Charge at home like everyone else. When I drive to DisneyWorld I'll hit a couple superchargers and pay the $30-40 in electricity no problem. 6th reason = patience is a virtue. Be glad you don't live in Europe and want a standard battery config because I think they're telling them it will be 2025 or later before they get them. Yes I'm being facetious. * The Model S is much MUCH heavier than Model 3, harder to maneuver and has worse handling and goes through tires quicker too.

[@JayPase]

Arthur Salazar +1 ❤️

[@rrbasch]

On the contrary of your believe that price is not an issue, I think you belong to people which have a higher income as the median in this country , which is fine if you can afford it. But for me buying a car that cost more than 20K$ is waisting money , for something that you probably use 10% of the time. I love the EV car concept and it’s implications,that why I follow the community, but as everything the early adopters are paying for the technology and the pain of adoption, I think I’ll wait until model 3s are in the used market and are sold in the mid 20K$ . Ben, Great show and continue with the work.

[@andrewpender7505]

Totally agree with your price reasoning. Good point well made. Love to buy a Tesla but here in Scotland a used £5,000 to £10,000 car fits the bill. No Tesla superchargers in the whole West / Central Scotland. So free charging doesn't even come into the sums.

[@KevinD21]

Personally, I love what Tesla is doing, and I want to support them directly. That is one of the main reasons why I have a reservation for a Model 3. If I bought a used Model S, it wouldn't really support Tesla. I'm willing to wait.

[@ruudr.3667]

Nice video, only missing model s advantages are possibiliy of hepa filter which is great until all ice vehicles are gone...Also air suspension is missing.

[@skblut]

I bought a used Model S 85 waiting to get it from Texas and looking forward to it.

[@joselitosylva613]

Every time I see your videos I lean more and more towards getting a Model S. One question I have is, should driven kilometers(mileage) be something to consider on a electric car? ICE it has a huge factor, I'm looking at one right now 2013 S P85, 141,000 KM( 87k miles), priced at $58K CAD (46K USD).

[@Marcin25981]

100% Agree with your Video I have a 2013 Model S purchased about a year ago. Love the car everything is absolutely perfect (minus a door handle and tpms sensors) Finally I was able to sit behind the wheel of the model 3. Personally, I could not switch over, having the screen with energy consumption is a must for me. In addition, I did quite a lot of supercharging that cost me nothing. Coming from an SUV prior I could not live with a regular trunk on any car anymore, either hatch or combi. As of today, you can pick up used model S out of warranty for 30K and less to me that is a no-brainer. Great video. (Last comment pushing the time frame for 35K model 3 was pretty Sh.... thing to do Tesla not to mention it will hurt them)

[@jamesbaxter2812]

I like what you said. When I first was the Model S. I wanted one. As, You said. I still want one. I was looking at the Lucland. Misspell ot, But I don't like if, Thanks

[@gbb0131]

If I could afford to look at an S or X even CPO I wouldn't be looking at the 3....

[@vell0cet517]

2 big disadvantages with the Model S: it’s HUGE and the visibility in the front isn’t as good. The 3 is more agile and probably more fun to drive in some respects. You make great points though and I agree the S may be a better choice for many people. One advantage you didn’t mention is the S should be safer than the 3 in a crash. Keep up the great videos.

[@SemperFi748]

Actually Ben you are right. I agree with you. I am a Model 3 reservation holder and since I live in Dubai, my delivery estimator shows early 2019 now and from your video I doubt that Tesla will be able to deliver the Model 3 with standard battery to me in early 2019! One thing I noticed you had written in the video description, and that is regarding the clarity of the screen in the Model 3 vs the Model S. I have seen several reviews on KZbin from Model 3 owners and all of them are saying that the clarity and sharpness of the screen in the Model 3 are way better than the model S. They also said that the screen in the Model 3 has faster responds time to the touch than the screen in the Model S. What do you think since you have both cars? Thanks :)

[@TimNeumark]

Even at the same price, I'd get a Model 3 over a Model S. The S is an _enormous_ car. The 3 is a more direct replacement for a car the size of a Camry.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Agreed!

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

Wrong, the Camry is closer to model S size. The m3 is much shorter

[@TimNeumark]

Camry: 189x72x58 M3: 185x73x57 If you consider four inches to be "much shorter", then I guess you are right. The model S is 7 inches longer and 5 inches wider: Model S: 196x77x57

[@vigneshnallasivam]

Great video! I am thinking about buying a Used 2016 or 2015 with less than 35K miles on it. What are the features I am missing compared to Model 3?

[@JosueSierra]

Any recommended sites to buy a used model S? What do you recommend?

[@zxnuc]

Ben need some advice should I buy a used model s compared to the incoming model y . You know like warranties and supercharging and different advantage and disadvantaged . Pls advice

[@garyinny5076]

Yeah, but I want a Model 3... Seriously, I been watching the used MS & MX market in my area for some time now. Because I want dual motors and autopilot, I'm looking at about the same price used as what I expect to pay for a similarly equipped M3. The wait is a factor. I'm a year away according to the estimate. I'd be driving a leased 2017 Leaf now if the dealer hadn't run out before they reached me on the list. So, it's an option I haven't ruled out.

[@jtwstheman]

Thank you. I agree and am looking at used Model S’s.

[@SoshiMECH]

I know I'm being petty but for me the Model S looks to big. I've always been draw to smaller sportier looking cars cars that have more room around them than inside them. I don't currently have a car and I'm not planning on getting one in the foreseeable future. I ride an electric bike to work. I'm guessing eventually you will be able to pickup a used Model 3 for a really cheap price. So that would be the option I would eventually go with. I'm also interested to see what a second generation Model 3 would be like and if they address the issues that some people have with the car.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Not a bad approach

[@ycheng0812]

I fell the same way, especially my garage under the town house is small and model 3 is perfect for it.

[@kambeard]

I think it will be better to just buy a used model 3 in a year. Wait a year & it’s been deprecated a bit. I don’t want to wait 2 years for a car to be made when others can buy it cheaper.

[@joeschey8836]

SCE Tier 2 pricing is 25c/kwh which is more expensive than supercharging in CA. Most people charging at home will be in at least Tier 2, so supercharging is cheaper than home charging.

[@iplace0618]

If S and 3 are same price, yes...

[@mattaut88]

Kiyoshi Inoue repair costs will never be on the same level.

[@danger450]

Realistically, they are. an ever so slightly pre-owned S, or wait 2 years for an over priced garbage 3? The choice is yours ....

[@mattaut88]

danger450 didn't know 20inch wheels are equal to exchange to 18s.

[@greennewdeal5539]

They may be the same price but the S would have less range, no autopilot, that ugly black nose cone and might not even be quicker. The only used S available near me(through Tesla) is $90k, only has 253mi of range and has the ugly black nose cone. The 3s sold now have 310mi range

[@emilianoramirez5398]

It will cost the same but only if you get a 2012 model S.

[@Chrisb8s]

Well.... I bought myself a used. Model S p85 yesterday. It has every option. After I did. I took my safe and son over to the Tesla store that has an S and a 3. If you sit in both... you will come to the same conclusion. The S is and will be a better car! I can’t wait for my car to get here. For the Sam price as the 3 I got a great warranty, a like new car, with alcantara, sunroof, ap1, performance, turbine wheels etc etc...and it is spacious with a fringe that is huge.

[@DarylIverson]

I'm thinking of buying a Tesla next year. Leaning toward the Model S. I'm curious about the benefit of buying a new one versus buying an used one. Since you purchased a used one, what's your take on it? I'd like to see a video on this.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Coming soon

[@edsmith7729]

Hi Ben I live in Canada and I do have the reservation done about a year ago I checked last night and it says mid 2018 when I can get mine so I got really excited for that and that includes the dual motor with either low or the high range which I'm going for the high range. I thought of getting a Model S problem is and Canada it's very expensive you're talkin over a hundred thousand to get a Model S and use our girl for about 80,000 4 an S90D S 70D . So I really hope my June I can get my model 3 ordered got to keep my fingers crossed.

[@edsmith7729]

Add to my first comment if I wanted to go with the low range rear wheel drive I have to wait till 2019 for Canadian deliveries but to get the dual motor low or high range its mid 2018

[@duanloves]

A model S in Singapore cost an upwards of $350-800k in Singapore. It also has a high maintenance cost and lack of service centers. A model 3 however would cost $135k and up which puts it in the same price bracket any entry level car like a Prius. Still high compared to other countries but it positions itself as a viable option for EV enthusiast.

[@WhatsInside]

This is an excellent video. Both cars are great but I certainly would choose a used Model S over a Model 3.

[@emilianoramirez5398]

What's Inside? I love your videos however I think that you should keep on going with your regular videos of what's inside because that's what people enjoy a whole lot more and that's the channel that has 5 million subscribers.

[@Cohangxom08]

I agree with you Dan and Lincoln oh and Hi Dan and Lincoln I’m your fan I’m a part of the notification squad.

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420]

I absolutely concur with the lack of a hatch being a problem. So much of a problem for me that it's not my radar at all.

[@srick77373]

A model s is also double the price of the model 3.

[@PkmmteXeleon]

You forgot to mention: 1. Model S interior feels massively outdated compared to the new Model 3. 2. Model 3 has more headroom in the rear seats. 3. Model 3 has smoother display, compared to the sluggish Model S display. 4. Model 3 reportedly has much better handling and feels sportier. 5. Model 3 has some software features that the Model S does not yet have (adaptive audio based on speed), and the UI is much cleaner. 6. Model 3 has much more refined features such as door pockets, improved center console, coat hooks, storage under armrest, easier entry, etc. 7. The Model S is gigantic. Parking is a nightmare. 8. The Model 3 has better efficiency. Supercharging aside, you'd pay less in electricity for a Model 3 than a Model S for the same distance travelled. 9. Tax credits. A used car is not eligible for the Federal Tax rebate whereas a new Model 3 would be. That's a $7,500 difference without even counting possible state rebates on top of that. Even if you were to put in a reservation right now and the incentives began to phase out tomorrow, you'd still get at least partial credit by the time of delivery. 10. Warranty is likely to be much better on a brand new Model 3 than a used Model S. 11. Insurance rates are lower for the 3 because it has more steel than aluminum. Repair rates for aluminum cars like the Model S are crazy expensive. 12. Oh yeah, Model 3 is half the price. Range bump is $9k on the 3, $21k on the S. You could buy a used Model S for a little more than a brand new fully loaded Model 3, but you'd then be missing a ton of things such as autopilot, glass roof, premium package, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if most, if not all (except cost), of these points are addressed in the upcoming Model S refresh. Which makes another case against buying a Model S, given that it'd take a huge depreciation hit if you were to buy one right now. Similar to those that bought one right before AutoPilot was released, or the front facia refresh. As things are right now, I'd buy a new Model 3 over a new Model S even if they were the same price. Of course, things would be different if a Model S interior refresh came out.

[@evdombrowski1]

PkmmteXeleon hmm working overtime to self justify that model 3. I've got $20 I'll sell you for $50. PM me

[@davidmcneely8854]

PkmmteXeleon I

[@jacquessmolders4262]

Need more space: choose a model X! Got it 4 months and very happy with it!

[@kimbahpnam]

A lot of conjecture here...

[@PkmmteXeleon]

kimbahpnam Exactly! He seriously needs to look at his data more closely instead of being so biased with incorrect information.

[@mouseanalyse]

Ok. You convinced me. The tailgate is indeed a big difference. I do miss the agility of the early 2wd Model S in the new 75D though. On a roundabout it appears too lazy in the front axle. That is something I heard the Model 3 does better, more engaging to drive. Would like to see a video comparison of that.

[@thcheung903]

Just got my pre-owned model s P85+

[@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit]

th cheung my p85 is brilliant..right balance of range and power..enjoy!

[@TohPhimmasenh]

same! just got my p100d last night, Took it out for a drive then i tried out that ludicrous mode it was insane theres more cause after that i woke up, damn it

[@dwoo0418]

How much was it?

[@babyyoda8195]

Just got my 2013 P85, it's like a rocket. Model 3 looks don't compare and my range is quite good

[@BreauxSegreto]

Appreciate your video. I’m currently a BMW/Audi driver and have been watching Tesla for years. The longer I watch/read about Tesla the more I’m inclined to to buy a used Model S . Have you noticed a difference in your auto insurance since the Model S? Thanks for your opinions... I feel I would have the same opinions about the Model 3 - Peace

[@wideboy38]

Price for used S is still £15k ($20k) more than 3 in the UK with 70k miles on the clock. For £10k happy to wait (although will be 3 years since putting in reservation as now not due until spring 2019)

[@Papapodcasts]

Hmmm, here in Canada, $55,500 Cdn (excluding tax incentive) for a brand new M3, with Long Range only vs $76,000 Cdn for a used (with 115,000 km) MS with no tax incentive?! Not exactly comparing apples to apples here. Not quite sure what kind of trees grow out there in California, ours are Maple and not Money. What's funny is that shortly after he posted this video he Tweeted that he's on the waiting list for another Model 3. Hmmm, sounds hypocritical to me. PS - I always look forward to your insight and videos. Unfortunately I was very disappointed with this one. Do you understand your audience and those who really want the M3. The people REALLY wanting the entry level M3 cannot afford the MS or MX. Opening the M3 to Tesla customers is only giving the rich another way to maximize the tax incentive leaving the middle class out of the dark

[@rasheedchapka7584]

Papapodcasts acts shocked that their luxury model gets a better review than their economy model.

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

Not to mention that, in Canada, you can't get one for $55K, it's going to be more than $64K since you can only order the premium long range model or dual motor model.

[@rueben44]

Yes I would choose an S class instead of an E class....except the price especially with options. Does this apply to Tesla also? Can I get a Model S optioned like your Model 3 for the same 54K? :( SMH trying to hard to create video content.

[@28delayslater97]

You working on second roadster or something?

[@cristianfederico2411]

Same thing I think

[@jlandino1002]

Great video

[@yobuddy2920]

*sigh I'm trying to convince myself to get my Model 3 when it becomes available mid 2018. This isn't helping. Not sure if I should just forget it and wait for Model Y.

[@g35ie]

Hi, I placed my Model 3 reservation on 02/13/18. I got my “Your Model 3 is Ready to Order” email on 02/15/18. I have a 2015 P85D. I’m not sure to keep my Model S or get the Model 3 with the tax incentives. What do you think?

[@goukwapanzy]

Ben, this video sounds like a 9 minute advertisement for Tesla Model S. Also, there are a lot (even a majority) of people that want to help with the transition to sustainable energy and help restore the health of the planet. However, they cannot afford to do it at nearly $60,000 per vehicle. That is their reality.

[@qncsc]

come om, every video posted on this channel is an advert for Tesla.

[@JamesAlburyTheSkyAboveUs]

Yup, a monthly payment on a $60,000 car puts me mortgage payment territory. The wife isn't excited about that.

[@sergeyyevtukh388]

Marcus Aurelius Not nearly as this one, especially if you think how much profit on MS and how much faster the S model could be at ones door step...

[@jordandixon125]

You can see Ben only liked the comments that were for Model S. Total advertisement 😂

[@Papapodcasts]

What's funny is that shortly after he posted this video he Tweeted that he's on the waiting list for another Model 3. Hmmm, sounds hypocritical to me.

[@RedwoodGeorge]

I'm in line for a Model 3, originally December 2018 delivery which would be great since that's when the lease on my i3 runs out. Now that delivery seems to be slipping into *sometime* in 2019 I'm starting to look at my other options. Frankly, I'm considering a Model X - it's not much more expensive than an S and I would prefer the higher ride height and better visibility. Who knows? I may end up with the refreshed Kia Soul (depending on range) or even an I-Pace. I can tell you one thing: it won't be an ICE or Hybrid car - there's no going back!

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

the Model X is amazing, and I hear great things about the i-Pace

[@Dwayne8172]

RedwoodGeorge what about the future Tesla rideshare network ... is it available on a used Model S ?!?

[@DLAmy]

Passenger Seat Profile's would great. Especially when my better half and I swap drivers on a long distance drive. Please mention with your connections. I never get the passenger seat back in the right position. We had a CPO Model S 60 traded in for new Model X 90, More Range, and towing when needed, my thoughts Model S CPO better buy than new 3, have seen 4 model 3's here in Florida three at the evannex get together and one at the West Melbourne supercharger grand opening courtesy of a Falcon 9 employee, they are great looking. Solar panels have saved me $250.00 a month, power wall is next. Great data...Thanks..

[@xdram]

Ben, with your typical driving style how many miles do you get on your model 3 with the 27 wKh which you paid $5.40?

[@joeschey8836]

xdram 27 Kwh should get most people around 100+ miles.

[@mariokajin]

The binacle is overrated the model 3 needs just a good hud. Software wise you are correct. As for being sedan vs hatch both are less useful than a sw/estate/vagon cos of design choices. Agree on camper mode as you put it. Price wise both are above my budget. On supercharging you are 100% correct. Thanks for the review.

[@Princeaa1i]

There's no tax break on a used Model S. If your a day 1 Model 3 reservation holder, and your timing is like mine, May - July 2018, you can possibly still get the credit. If I don't qualify for the tax credit I might switch to a Model S instead.

[@loganrossignol]

When it comes down to it, the autopilot potential alone is worth waiting for over getting an S now. You're not going to find an AP S for less than $50k and that's AP1, which is going to be left behind. A $50k S with AP will be a pretty slow car with low range compared to a loaded 3 as well. If you're not interested in AP or range, then sure, the used S 60 is fine.

[@keeperMLT]

This is the point that Ben keeps missing when he talks about buying a used model 3. The CHEAPEST model S with Enhanced Autopilot on Tesla's Used Vehicle inventory is $105k.

[@keeperMLT]

I meant used Model S. My mistake.

[@edwardboylan4187]

100% on board would buy a model s over the 3, I've had my reservation for about 6 months. The only thing holding me to it over the S is the price at the range. A ~60k fully outfitted brand new model 3 compared to a used 75-100 model S I'm hoping will still be better for the money in terms of range. Long range battery ~310 miles according to Tesla on the 3 FULLY out fitted 60k while a 75D is what...259 miles for also just over 60k with no upgrades new? The upgrade to a 100D for the 335 miles already brings the newer models close to 80k without any other features (which I want). I am very worried about when it comes time to customize my model 3 over the 1 screen and the annoyances that I have read and seen come with it.

[@errolwirasinghe]

OPERATING WINDOWS from SMARTPHONE- I locked my car, and was leaving, when I realized the rear window was down. I had to go back and manually shut the window. Would be nice if I could have done it from my smartphone