USED Tesla Model S, is it really that BAD??? | ReDriven USED car review.

[@martinthe3rd664]

After driving a whole bunch of these from various years I'd recommend looking for a 2018 or up. Pre-2018 models had some issues with the drive axle and more importantly the gen-3 seats found in late 2017 onwards are much comfier and almost don't wear at all. You can spot them easily since they have adjustable headrests and a less "spacey" design in the back seat. The gen-2 seats are decent but absolutely avoid the first gen seats from 2013-2014, those are downright horrible. Also make sure to get dual motor (4WD). RWD versions are still sports car fast, but only 4WD ones are "Tesla fast". And no, the novelty of the dual motor Tesla acceleration never does wear off :)

[@Cruor34]

I'm just curious, what do you do for work to just go through multiple 120k (only just now they are down to 105k) cars? I really want a Tesla S Plaid and I CAN (barely) afford one but it would be a stupid purchase financially, obviously there are "wiser (but less fun) things to do with the money. Right now the I want to go 0-60 in 2.3 seconds part of my brain is fighting the Don't be a fool its too expensive part of my brain.

[@najeff2]

@@Cruor34you can cut that price down immensely by buying used though. Unless you want the latest and greatest

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Thanks for mentioning that. I have a 80K miles 2017 100D. My tan seats stain if I look at them funny. And yes agreed, driving this never gets old. These things are as much a "Car" as an iPhone is a telephone.

[@stefkraus6807]

I would avoid older than 2017 Model S because of looks but also reliability. What people don't realise there is already more than 20+ times more Model 3/Y in Australia. The S will be the trendy young timer very soon and is arguable the best looking practical EV

[@Turbo999be]

If you want free supercharger you have to go for max 06/2016 models. I own 2 of them, with a supercharger 5km from home I've not paid a single charge for 5 years on both cars... thanks to Tesla I've saved up to 5000€ of electriciy every year. One car is 450.000km (2013 S85) the other is 250.000km (2016 facelift S90D). I spent about 1000-1500€/year on repair on average. Best cars I've ever owned.

[@tiloalo]

​​@@Turbo999be but how long do you wait for your car to charge? They are also some of the slowest to charge

[@Cryptochris3]

Youre quoting part prices from tesla but a quick shopping around online, youll find headlights for a tenth of that and replacement drivers seats. These kind of replacements are common with other high end manufacturers so its not just tesla.

[@ReDriven]

100% Chris but for now we've chosen to avoid opening the can of worms that can be non-oem parts. - AK

[@riskinhos]

tesla isn't high end.

[@Dato1K]

I'm more keen on the Orange Datsun in the Background of Jims Workshop. 😍

[@BryceLovesTech]

I bought a used Tesla Model S P85+ with 100k miles 6 months ago for $28k. I came out of a Chevy Volt. Amazing car I went from 0-60 in 9 seconds do a car that does it in 4.3 seconds. Still getting software updates and life time free supercharging (all be it slow 60kw). I am worried as my battery warranty is only good for another 6 months. Cross your fingers.

[@ReDriven]

Great to hear a Tesla success story! Keep us updated on the battery situation

[@chammyy456]

Did you buy from Tesla website ? Certified pre owned ? I’m curious if they still offer free super charging for their used inventory ?

[@ReDriven]

@@chammyy456 Not my car mate and the guy that owns it bought it brand new from Tesla in Sydney.

[@BryceLovesTech]

@@chammyy456 A local dealer and the unlimited streaming and supercharging transfered.

[@strangerdanger8462]

I think you'll be okay. Yes there are some lemons in every batch. But I'm also aware that there are tons of folks on Tesla forums who've driven their Model S cars for over 100k miles with no major issues.

[@ZekeMagnum]

Bro why are you laying down when driving damn that seat is so far back. You are supposed to be able to rest your wrist on top of the wheel with slightly bent arm for maximum safety in a crash. Whiplash will also kill you sitting like that. Not defending the quality but the leather is god damn disgusting... He hasn't cleaned that properly. If leather is shiny that means you see all the sweat and general dirt.

[@MoltenSamurai]

Hoping to pick up a P100D by the end of the year 🙌🏾

[@joepowell7025]

What about range, how much distance and are there many charging points on long distances and time would it take to travel interstate ???

[@AKA001]

On my second Model S now, after I had my first 2015 S70 for 8 years. Now I’m in a 2019 MS Long Range. It’s a timeless shape and still a head turner over a Model Y. After owning the old S I can see significant improvement in many of the components. It’s a pity I can’t order a new one, because I would. Nothing else in the same class compares.

[@danecaldwell9470]

I bought a 2020 S 100D and it is in prestige condition. Zero rattling, very little battery degradation. It’s an awesomely fun car to drive. Mine came with FSD and I’m impressed at how well it works.

[@pureniku]

I plan on trading in my car for a Tesla model s to save a bit of money. Since they’re overall cheaper which version of the model s and year you recommend? That’ll last a long time affordable and is quite fast?

[@Adhgnis]

@@purenikubuy anything 2017 and up

[@sendeth]

Wow I can pick up one of these for $30k in the states

[@ReDriven]

Hi sendeth! Yeah it's crazy the price disparity between the US and Australia. Also, thanks so much for watching and commenting, really appreciate it.

[@Elaba_]

Don't forget the Australian dollar is an another currency.

[@warikplaya]

Australian dollars are different from US dollars

[@P.k.c781]

Well you guys get some sweet subsidies and it's actually produced there. Factor in transportation costs, dealer network including availability for both new and used.

[@hi9580]

@@ReDriven makes sense since australia is an island far away from the rest of the western countries and also drives on the wrong side (just check out the f150 right hand drive conversion/import prices)

[@PtBm2975]

Update: on eBay headlights can be had for around $150; seat track rails for around $250; repair kit for extending doorhandles, around 30 bucks each. And 60,000 miles to a Tesla battery is nothing, just means it’s about broke in. :)

[@tiloalo]

Just like any car... And for the battery, they mostly fail due to corrosion, not degradation, so you can never know when it's gonna fail

[@marajesty311]

There are cupholders underneath the air vents in the back.

[@Siloghost]

The free supercharging goes with the s if its older

[@matklm]

2:40 that's the price of my car. The problem with a second hand expensive car is that the repairs are still expensive.

[@ReDriven]

Exactly mate

[@Turbo999be]

Not more expensive than a premium one half the price... just saying...

[@thirsty3333]

Ima keep it 100% my Tesla repairs shit I should start my own Channel 2015 P85D purchased in November 2020 55k miles on it currently 136,000k Repairs in 2021 gps antenna $2000 they had to replace back glass to get to it. $300 door handle . $300 whatever that thingy is called under front of car it’s all plastic . Internet upgrade 3g-LTE I think that was $394 replace the little battery in front $400 may have been less 2022 repairs( mileage at time 125k miles) $6,000 rear suspension replacement, some coolant switch , head light hid bulbs , tpms & 4 tires . I’m sure I’m missing a part but I do drive a lot . I get free supercharging so 50/50 between super charging and charging at home . I definitely don’t like the repairs I had to do but I do enjoy the car. Like what else am I gonna drive at this point 🤨. This car stuck with me now . I don’t really have a big concern about battery but I’ve definitely experienced some degradation. I see some company out there retrofitted a Tesla model s with a battery that does 700 miles on one charge . Hey if battery goes I’d love to put that in my car to keep it until that battery dies . (Quick vent) I’m tired of buying cars this will probably be my last buy , maybe get a second hand car like a pick up truck so I can haul shit to my rentals when I’m fixing stuff but other than that I’m done car industry I’m good with my car. Hey tesla I don’t care about ur new upgrades it’s not enough to make me buy an updated model that doesn’t have free supercharging . Now make the tesla fly above traffic then you’ll catch my attention but for now meh 😒

[@odinsplaygrounds]

You can get the S 75D 2018 in Norway for about 36k AUD now. Considering it.

[@PhiveWalls]

One question I always have with EV is, does the car need to go back to the authorized dealer for because of proprietary design and built?

[@ReDriven]

Yep. - AK

[@aron1179]

and they'll jack up the price as they have a monopoly on maintenance

[@pfunnell]

There are specialists but they're still rare, we're luck enough to have one locally, he can completely strip and rebuild Teslas and every other EV

[@user-lo3dl1ew7o]

8:23 looks like the headlight failed again..

[@rk885stg]

What type of watch are you rocking?

[@DraeDiamond]

The owner didn’t take much care of the interior if we’re being real

[@seanreeves3503]

I wouldn’t call the screen breaking a little hic up

[@ReDriven]

I was trying to be kind and I'm mildly terrified of the Tesla fanboy network!

[@P.k.c781]

@@ReDriven this fan boys are worse than Apple or BTS fan boys. Be careful.

[@haramaschabrasir8662]

The screen doesn't break, it's the computer unit, the MCU. Tesla offers a cost free lifetime replacement to swap the first gen MCUs with the second gen. It's a hiccup because it has been solved. ReDriven doesn't mention that.

[@kristoffer3000]

"fun" fact, Tesla considers the lifetime of a screen to be 5 years for the Model S.

[@AW66888]

I'll say this. Bought a used 2015 S85 for $30k. First 4 months, 5 trips to Tesla repair shop. $10k in repairs cost. Air suspension, pump, suspension links, steering rack, failed 12v, failed trunk latch, amongst the problems requiring repair to keep the car safe and road worthy. Never buy these used. I have another $5k put on the side expecting the next failure

[@ReDriven]

Oh man this is terrible. - AK

[@AW66888]

@Freedom 2020 Wish I knew, but it's still only a 1yr, 20,000km limited warranty. Better than nothing, but still I do question the long term reliability especially for the mechanical parts. Just not designed to last it feels, maybe the car is too heavy?

[@eastmanresearch3143]

thank you for this. You helped me stay away from a 56k mile tesla 2014 model w/ the rear 2 jump seats. Will steer clear and buy or lease new.

[@seveng86sg]

1989 mazda do you have?

[@SeeMoreLevingthon]

I see the trend of saying "Ks" for kilometers, when kilometers is indicated with "km" is an old one.

[@rosewood1]

Is the Tesla Model S something I would consider? hmm no Why Well compared to our Prius Gen 3 ITech fit finish and reliability is terrible. The 2009 Prius has travelled 280000k. The only things we have replaced since new was 1 inverter cost 5k and a 12v start battery. The main battery and everything else apart from service items is original. And it is regularly driven on rough dirt roads. It has even been driven in the desert on sand! Range of the S for me is terrible. I will regularly drive long distance eg Melb to Sydney Canberra Snowies Gippsland. My friend in his S. Overnight stay in Albury ... expensive fuel It is neither a sports car or a comfortable saloon. A real driver's car is fun and rewarding to drive. eg an XR6 Turbo or a mini or an Alpha. A good saloon is comfortable for older people to climb in and get out. Teslas are fail. If you measure a vehicle's effectiveness by the level of happiness in its owner groups and the verdict is very very clear. It is an SUV . SUV owners have the biggest grins on the planet. and happiness in my book matters. So whether you drive a Ute a Patrol a Cruiser or Colorado... enjoy the drive And yes the Prius is infuriatingly well made and my wife loves it. And I begrudgingly admire it. But give me a Mustang any day if you love driving.

[@oldrrocr]

thanks for the pointers! I will likely give my Model 3 (which has been fantastic) to my son and buy a low mile ludicrous model S from Tesla...but will check the things you mentioned. Having owned dozens of ICE cars, Tesla build quality does NOT concern me at all.

[@erickayson588]

....especially knowing your in one of the safest cars ever built.

[@honesty_-no9he]

There is a lot of differences to the interior depending on year and choice of interior.

[@ev.c6]

This cars design isn’t the best out there, specially compared to a BMW or Audi, but the maintenance costs are just so low that I’d get one of these every single day over the mentioned brands. Maintaining an old BMW is just a huge rip off.

[@kristoffer3000]

The cost of owning a Model S is actually quite high, the quality is utterly dreadful so expect expensive shit to break a whole lot. Stuff like motors and battery packs have been changed in most of the older (2018-ish and older) Model S' sold here in Norway for example, it's quite funny reading the for sale ads for them as it's so incredibly common

[@aussietaipan8700]

Love the vids mate and I do want to purchase a model S, mainly due to they have a real speedo in the normal place in front of the driver where the model 3 you have to take your eyes off the road in front, at least that is my experience in leasing a model 3 for a few months.

[@UTArch1]

Sad to hear that used Model S's cost SO much more in Australia than here in the USA.

[@daweigo6851]

Everything expensive in Australia 😮

[@matejovich]

​@@daweigo6851 especially GUNS!😂

[@Andersljungberg]

Is not model S quieter in the cabin than Tesla 3

[@askmaxim]

Jim must have been kidding saying" there is no engine, so not much can fail".

[@stephenbates3848]

Your lost me at quality issues and the $3k headlight. Love your reviews!

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so much mate! - AK

[@Larry]

Surely there's some third party lights that are cheaper?

[@ReDriven]

@@Larry There very well maybe mate but we're choosing to avoid recommending any third party or eBay parts on a car this expensive. We'd hate to recommend something only for it to go very wrong, which from experience, can happen with cheaper eBay parts. - AK

[@UTArch1]

I had a projector bulb go out on my passenger side in my 2013 Model S and it cost me all of $12.00 to buy a new bulb which I installed myself (Tesla service center wanted $168 to do it including parts and taxes).

[@Andersljungberg]

@@UTArch1 Someone has to pay their salary. so those who work there and then it is probably also an employer tax. if it is like in Sweden. then they want to make a profit too

[@markheath9172]

Good review - but I think the battery life issue was glossed over - other info I have seen advises the batteries will last about 10 years and cost over $20,000 to replace

[@ReDriven]

Cheers for the feedback Mark!

[@brocluno01]

Yeah, owning a Tesla out of warranty - I don't think so ...

[@ReDriven]

It's a big risk Broc and thanks so much for watching and commenting mate. Appreciate it

[@brocluno01]

@@ReDriven Yeah, we are still in early days for the used EV market. With more inventory on the used market, prices will come down to reflect the risk. Then DIY folks can start to make the repairs with good used parts, and someone will publish a How To book on Tesla's. But we are not there yet ...

[@ReDriven]

@@brocluno01 Exactly man. We're thinking the whole "fit an electric powertrain to a classic older car" thing will blow up in popularity once the inventory increases too. There's a bunch of cool and beautiful classics that had inherently rubbish engines that would be amazing with full EV running gear.

[@brocluno01]

@@ReDriven I am a stalwart and constant harpy about EV conversions. WAY to many old cool cars and trucks (and Utes) to let them all die. Here in the USA legacy auto makers are facing a cliff. Once EV adoption really takes off, they are saddled with a dealer network that is unhappy and dying because they make all their $$ on service and financing. I have been saying for sometime now that dealers need to be able to get factory designed EV Kits to install in good existing chassis. It's a market that Tesla will never enter, it helps the gear heads, and the planet (recycling on the fly). Just like crate motors today, we need those EV kits. 90% of the public would either pay to have the conversion done, or buy a new EV. Either way, good for the dealers. And it keeps all the auto techs employed. We don't need to trash the industry, we just need to convert our power mode ...

[@ReDriven]

@@brocluno01 Mate, 100% to everything you said!

[@1969cmp]

....it's lazy design enginnering when the flat screen does 'everything'. Air-conditioning controls should have physical knobs and dial.

[@harriettanthony7352]

Not lazy, VERY tec advanced--think on it, all the work that has to go into making the screen the 'be all and end all' of a car. And ONE stalk costs the maker circa $15.00USD

[@1969cmp]

@@harriettanthony7352 ....a person should not been on their mobile screen so it stands to reason to be less dependent on fixed screens in a vehicle.

[@Showmetheevidence-]

Wow… I’d heard of the Tesla manufacturing standards (panel gaps, bad paint, etc) - & this video is the first time I’ve seen a visual representation & it’s shocking. The seat squeak and bad leather would annoy me too. For all the good stuff Tesla offers, there ain’t no way I’d be keen on that kind of poor build quality.

[@Aizman87]

Have the model 3 long range and i think the suspension is a bit stiff so im looking to change to the model s for a bit more "softness".

[@ReDriven]

That would be a great comparison video. Thanks so much for watching and commenting too.

[@flupek25]

just buy model s 75d 2018 with 100k on clock not issue , life time warranty on battery and engyne most imported

[@ReDriven]

Pretty much our thoughts mate! Thanks for watching and commenting too man.

[@hsojspillihp]

so all teslas after 2018 have a life time warranty on the battery?

[@davidshipp623]

What the hell has happened to that interior. I have a 2016 Model S with 125,000 KM on it and the interior looks fine. I think the previous owner of the one in this video has been putting some weird oily treatments on that. The lights problem is just unjustifiable though, nearly all of them fail (not the main light but the decorative daylight running “eyebrow”). Tesla should really give and extended warranty on this and change the design.

[@ReDriven]

The owner of this one still owns it and uses it daily. His daughter is incredibly well behaved and we doubt would abuse the interior and from what I understand, he doesn't put any treatments on the leather. Actually Tesla gave it a full detail a couple of weeks before we shot this. I think that's one of the issues, there are some huge inconsistencies when it comes to build quality.

[@davidshipp623]

@@ReDriven it wasn’t so much abused as just to shiny! I think I blame the Tesla detailers 😂.

[@joebass5163]

My 2013 headlights have no issues at 157k miles and interior leather is holding up fine too. I would have bought a used headlight instead of new. Now the actual xenon light has been replaced at a cost of 80 U.S. dollars in one of the headlights.

[@mariajones8304]

Seems like a normal wear to me for the car that old and well used

[@kristoffer3000]

My 11 year old BMW 1 series still looks and feels like new with 200k km's on it. The Tesla was a 4 year old car at the time, it's SHOCKING just how awful the quality is, I've seen Mercs with 1 million km's on them that look a little worn on touch points but otherwise mostly like new, this Tesla looks like it's done twice that at 100k, laughable.

[@bosscat4276]

May be useful to add that Tesla supposedly has fixed the headlight issues starting with the F series revision. All the prior ones will eventually fail.

[@davidpenailillo3727]

What’s the f series? And what year looking to buy a used Tesla model s so want to avoid the headlight problem

[@gbymb]

@@davidpenailillo3727 did you get a reply? what's F series?

[@AlecWyld]

Meh, I want a P100D for the acceleration and speed, not really for the car and tech itself. Definitely worth getting over a Model 3. If you don't care about speed and are more practical, then sure, go with a Model 3.

[@jerryguo4929]

keep up the good work team! im sure this channel will grow heaps. Most other review channels out there pump out copy and paste reviews of new cars talking bs bout its comestic feature that i can see with my own eyes. Way more ppl buy used than new so this shit is golden right here. Good luck and im liking every one of ur videos for the youtube algorithm.

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so so much Jerry. - AK

[@adamhayden5152]

Hahaha Jerry, you are a total Jerry. Is your Beth named Beth and you have a kid with a old Jewish name morty. You Jerry!

[@elguero7185]

Maybe the build quality is not as good for other countries? Who knows im s buying a used model s 100d plus 60k miles but none of these issues hope i wont run into any problems!🤞

[@aussietaipan8700]

Today, I picked up my 2015 model s 85, it cost me 60k and has only 36k on the clock. Free super charging for life, full luxury and tech upgrades, I just love it. Its deep metallic blue and the cars name is Ancient Mariner.

[@chrissanchez660]

Why so much

[@kristoffer3000]

@@chrissanchez660 Because Tesla people are mentally inept

[@WokeSteve]

I got a shock when I saw you sitting in the frunk.I thought it had an inbuilt toilet,which would be handy on a trip.

[@ReDriven]

Hahahahaha, great idea, I'll call Elon. - AK

[@paulkerr782]

Is there an approved modification yet , for mounting a portable Honda generator in the boot so it can travel long distances , or save you waiting for a charging station ??

[@EVRacingChannel]

500km is decent enough

[@paulkerr782]

@@EVRacingChannelWishful thinking - Only good for 400km after a few years of use.

[@jeremispetre1988]

In Europe they sell at about 22000 euros at this specifications.

[@sahildamani5581]

Spending 50 k on a used model which may have some squeaking sound or exterior corners which doesn't line up properly throws the idea of buying a used model s

[@ReDriven]

It's a tough one isn't it Sahil. Before we shot this, a used Model S seemed like a great idea but afterwards, I'm not so sure. Also, thanks so much for watching and commenting.

[@ronlaverdiere]

Just think, those are the same issues that someone else paid 100k+ when it was new.

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

Just had the privilege of driving a near new model 3 Performance (Aug 2022), things of note. 1) very quick to accelerate. 2) very quick for the novelty to wear off. Certainly wasn't expecting the quickness of either, like who knew? Is it worth over $100,000 Australian dollars? For some yes, for me? Like I said, the speed at which the novelty wore off was unexpected. But try one for yourself, having your head smacked against the headrest when pressing the pedal is unlike anything that is propelled by expanding gas. Your passengers will quickly learn to despise it.

[@georgesitgraves8474]

Not much of a street racer are you? In my circle, we were discussing the Hellcat. It costs about the same as a Model S.

[@slvrsrfr]

That's crazy 3000 for a headlight..1900 for seat...makes you think...

[@georgesitgraves8474]

Never pay full price, never.

[@nk53nxg]

Tesla tech looks great. But those panel gaps and other build quality faults and issues seem unforgivable in this day and age. $3500 AU dollars for a headlight 🤣🤣😂, I feel a lot of empathy for the owner, what the fuck are they made of unobtanium?? The Tesla batteries are meant to be the best and most reliable due to fact they are cooled extending the battery life way beyond that of a Nissan Leaf or other electric cars that do not have battery cooling systems.

[@froggy0162]

Shiny leather is dirty leather… It goes shiny from absorbing oils from your skin and general grime. Just clean it…

[@30769s]

I would buy one, to Barra swap it. Its a nice looking car just needs a proper engine

[@tronicit]

The person at Tesla with the easiest job must surely be the lead designer. “Yeah make them all sort of look like a Porsche but more boring and put an iPad in the middle of the dash” Job done!

[@georgesitgraves8474]

My only question, will it pass inspection?

[@visualtouchpos-global3214]

Tesla Model S headlights ... Ebay, $200... you're welcome.

[@Etency]

My father's KIA Cerato from 2002, has better interior than this Tesla.

[@mckenziebrowne3874]

I will say I don't know that the other luxury brands are better on the headlights. I just sold my 2013 M5 a couple of months ago. The left front headlight fixture was getting condensation in it and started to fail (throwing codes...etcetera). Looking around, had I had the replacement done by BMW with parts and labor I was looking at around $3000 US dollars maybe more. This was the xenon with active and auto leveling. I have a friend that is into Audi and he seemed to indicate things might be similar with them. I don't know if the headlight thing is common for the Model S but I've heard from at least one person it is common with the same one across that generation 5 series that my M5 was. I will have to do my research on the Model S and that issue.

[@MrKlumZ]

I have the LS460 and the headlights did the same. Condensation after car wash/rain. Lights auto leveling failed and xenon bulbs require constant replacements

[@BocaAtractivo82]

Unfortunately where I live doesn't have a much of a supercharger network - not yet... until there is an infrastructure up and running, better battery technology, aren't dealer/manufacture dependent for service and repairs and EV that doesn't feel like an appliance, I will then consider to jump on the EV bandwagon. For now.... I will stick to my fun vehicle ICE vehicles

[@samforde4665]

How many ks can they do on the same battery 🔋? 10 years ?

[@ReDriven]

Oh mate, we'd be guessing and it will vary on quite a few parameters. - AK

[@adamalmqvist1789]

We getting a Tesla Model S 2019 100D AWD...used obviously. I feel like it will be amazing.

[@Adhgnis]

How’s it holding up ?

[@adamalmqvist1789]

@Adhgnis great for now, haven't had anything weird happening or braking. but Teslas from this time isn't the most well built.

[@BlakeCheck]

Love your presentation style.

[@ReDriven]

Oh thanks so much! That means so much to me.

[@ReDriven]

@Anony Mouse Mate, thanks? I think??

[@ReDriven]

@Anony Mouse Thanks heaps mate!

[@NissanR33Ztune]

Wow the market price of cars in Australia are just stupidly crazy.... guess it’s really turning into 3rd world country where unless you and your partner make 100k plus a year your kind of suffering through life.

[@pan6593]

Heck, it took me 7 minutes to understand why the rates were so high, right hand drive and dollars. What is that guy talking about in Britian ? Regards to down under!-)

[@cyclemoto8744]

Get a new model S on a Novated lease for the best value. If you really want one. I'll pass because most of my KMs are rural. Thanks for the content.

[@davidhancock91]

$150k for a used model S? They are worth nothing when the HV shits itself out of warranty.

[@hellcat1988]

I have yet to see anything on that car that a regular joe with a set of spanners couldn't fix with some parts from a breakers in a few weekends, probably for less than a few regular service stops for any of those other cars he mentioned. Just stuff that makes the car easier to haggle for, really.

[@brainsmatterpodcast]

Loving your channel! I’ve heard some horror stories about build quality and repair costs!

[@ReDriven]

Many of those stories are true unfortunately. - AK

[@alfie3836]

Are you secretly reading my mind ?!? Great video and great timing!

[@ReDriven]

Not secretly mate, I celebrate my ability to read your mind. It has become my party trick! - AK

[@sickhcivc]

so I just ordered a model 3, but now im not sure I want it :(

[@dr.vaheed6558]

Thanks mate - Great , realistic review

[@Etency]

Maybe.... One day... I might consider a Tesla. Right now though, quality issues, their idea of "revolutionizing" the steering wheel into a yolk among other things really are a turn off.

[@falchoon]

$65k 2nd hand? the last review I watched was the VW Passat Wagon 206 for $65k. Why would I spend that money here?

[@ReDriven]

Great point mate. - AK

[@dennisalexanderreilly8624]

Just discovered your channel and I am impressed with your style. Great review, mate.

[@ReDriven]

Thanks Dennis! Welcome

[@carterrutherford1555]

This content is great I wish you had more subscribers

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so much, Carter! The nice comments mean a lot. Fingers crossed the subs only go up 🤞🏻

[@borg_wow]

This is the video I needed. I was on the fence regarding a used Model S and a newer Model 3. I think I'll be going with the Model 3. I just rented one for a few days and it was an absolute blast.

[@rt_superstar]

Did it just like you. Now im going to change on a Model S 75D - its a really amazing car, and personally i need the space.

[@drali19741]

I have driven model 3 and agree it's amazingly fast ,easy to maneouvre ..however even used Tesla s still look so elegant .still pondering about new model 3 vs used s model

[@austinpowers1999]

New is best

[@fsclips]

Until now I have only had BMWs and Jaguars, but I am ready to go electric. Tesla seems to be the go-to brand right now and I am really torn. I have never bought a used car before, but it seems with electric cars it makes more sense as there are hardly any moving parts. For the same price of a basic Model 3 you can get a fully spec'd used Model-S. Hmm...not sure.

[@ReDriven]

It's such a tough decision isn't it. I should mention (at risk of making your already difficult decision even more challenging), since we shot this, the owner has had further issues with his S. Tesla have finally come to the party and helped him with costs of repair but it has been stressful. How about trying a transition vehicle first like a Hybrid of some sort? Personally, I'd recommend a Lexus Hybrid of any variant. That way you're dipping your toe in the electric pool (sounds a bit dangerous when I put it that way) without making the full EV commitment, you'll get an excellent vehicle being a Lexus and you'll avoid any catastrophic depreciation being a Lexus too. Just an idea but thank you for watching and commenting. Hope this and the video help.

[@fsclips]

@@ReDriven Thank you for your honest reply. I have done some more thinking and I think a new Model 3 makes more sense. The running cost of a Model -S (Insurance, spare parts, tyre costs,..) is quite a bit higher, plus with a new car you get the latest technology and a warranty. Personally, I am not convinced by hybrids. My dad has one (BMW) and to me it seems like the worst of both worlds. You still have all the maintenance costs and wear and tear of a petrol engine plus the maintenance of an electric car. When driving on the electric motor you carry a petrol engine around with you and when driving on the petrol engine you carry a battery pack around. I am not convinced by that and would rather go all electric. I did a testdrive with the Jaguar i-Pace and that was an amazing car, but way to expensive for me. I live in Mallorca and being on a small island is perfect for an electric car as you can never go much further than 80km before you end up in the sea. Everything is close and there is sun all year round which would be perfect for solar panels. We will have to wait and see., but thanks for your reply :-)

[@ReDriven]

@@fsclips Thanks for the reply to the reply mate. The Model 3 sounds perfect for you and living on such a beautiful (and fun sized island) the range won't be a drama at all. Unfortunately, range anxiety is a very real concern here in Australia as the distances are huge and the space between charging points can often mean having to drive in the opposite direction to get charge before heading back the way you need to travel. Totally agree on the i-Pace, what a great car but they want crazy money for it. Again, thanks for watching and commenting, have a wonderful weekend.

[@sko1beer]

@@ReDriven you guys in Australia have the Toyota prime range?

[@uptownscenery9175]

Porsch taycan🎉

[@pastorofmuppets8834]

Doesn't even have headlights with active shadowing. I would say it's down on Tech

[@JebSmith]

Good insight. Thanks for the review.

[@HeBeHu]

Lovely Seiko!

[@martineashey6366]

Nice, Would you please do a review for Mitsubishi Outlander Phev

[@ReDriven]

100% Martin. - AK

[@hellomeatrobots]

What's the priority on getting the Model S out the door? Should we do some more work on the door handles? No, we need to get the cabin fart sounds down.

[@thtupid]

That interior sheen looks absolutely horrendous!

[@chriswalford9228]

Can you get the fart sound changed to that of a Busso

[@foaley77]

Great channel, think I'll keep driving my Camry 2009 car.

[@danpanther]

I would agree with most of this video, as a 2nd hand model s owner. I compare the model s to owning a racehorse…. But I’ve owned other marques in my time and the build quality of eg a 4 year old Audi or VW is just as disappointing. They are just better at hiding it! Overall I wouldn’t swap my model s for any other car. Including a 3!

[@Diesel.Trucker67]

What year did you buy?

[@Mr.Atlanta850]

​@dennisoconnor1015 the 2015 and 2016 are excellent used electric cars in Tesla with free supercharging for life.

[@khaliphanikhumalo7193]

When will you review the Model X?

[@ReDriven]

As soon as we can get one!

[@Steven-p4j]

I once had one of these pull up when I called for a taxi, but even so, it seemed to be American mass-produced rubbish, with large panel gaps, and a few creaks, which for a fresh car seemed extreme. There are better and far cheaper cars in this segment which would be more fun, and so much cheaper. That is even without thinking about depreciation. It remains essentially an expensive toaster.

[@fretho8410]

The "leather" doesn't feel like leather, because it's in fact vinyl, or in everyday terms, plastic.

[@34OLD]

How do i always see this videos i dont live in the uk and i dont watch them because the steering wheel is on the right

[@ReDriven]

Just point the screen towards a mirror and watch it that way, then the wheel will be on the left. - AK

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Don’t like their ceo; YET the Model S is quite the looker. Doesn’t have the model 3’s Hannibal lecter style latex muzzle grille. Unfortunate that these expensive cars can have dodgy build quality and reliability. 2:51 You got a 1989 mazda at home? Which one? 😂

[@ReDriven]

MX5 mate!

[@Icarus_and_Me]

Loving the clips and delivery, soft on the eye too 😉

[@ReDriven]

Oh you! - AK

[@luisforeal8676]

I think Tesla should come out with an "analog mode" with physical hidden buttons as a standard feature just in case the "automated or digital tech" fails...

[@gregwho]

Can't believe this report failed to bring up the biggest potential issue. The older Tesla S models in the US are suffering battery pack failures now with repair bills $15K to $25K USD. Now 2015-2016 models as discussed here have a way to go, but paying $100K AUD for a Telstra S now, and potentially having these battery issues in five years, no thank you! The car would be worth next to nothing at resale, or you would need to fork out loads of cash for a replacement / refurbished battery pack. This report should of really covered this as it is the largest potential issue. Makes the comments of headlights pale.

[@ReDriven]

Hi Greg. You're 100% right. We shot this video well over a year ago before these issues became common knowledge and if/when we revisit the Model S in future formats, we'll be sure to bring this up. We had read a couple of rumours regarding this but nothing that could be substantiated at that time. Actually, what are your thoughts on us doing a "The truth about EV's" style video? Bringing up information surrounding how much impact the actual manufacturing of EV's has on the environment through to what happens to these battery packs once their lifecycle is over? Love your thoughts. Also, thanks so much for watching and taking the time out to comment, really appreciate it. - AK

[@gregwho]

@@ReDriven Appreciate your reply. In relation to your "The truth about EV's" style video, an excellent idea. I think there is a audience for this out there. So much pro videos on all electric, but not a lot pointing to the issues, like battery packs, producing, recycling, and disposing of them in a few years. Also Hydrogen fuel cell cars get little coverage in AUS, and the technology is really coming to the surface. QLD Government just put 3 or 4 on the road this week. Europe has a history in them dating back. 5min refuel and zero omissions. As I said above, I really believe there is a audience for honest balanced content on this electric car topic. Again thanks for the reply.

[@ReDriven]

@@gregwho Greg you're so so right. Ok, we'll start tinkering away at a plan on how to make this happen. It might be a little while but we'll get to it. Also, our pleasure in regards to the reply. You've taken the time out to watch and comment so the least we can do is reply mate. - AK

[@commonsense-grs]

I'm not really a electric car fan as most Aussies aren't. But, if I lived in the city and had to commute to work, this is the go. I'm sure, well lets hope so the newer models have better build quality and you would think more after market parts will come available over time. I have a large solar system on my roof, so wouldn't cost a lot to recharge and with very little servicing to do and the big one NONE OF THIS EXPENSIVE FUEL TO BUY, would save a fortune. This is the future of motoring if we like it or not, towing my caravan around Australia could be a problem though.

[@Michael-jo9jb]

The reality is most people are at work during the day so they can't charge their electric cars. I'm glad you have a large solar set up.

[@commonsense-grs]

@@Michael-jo9jb agree with that, but many workplaces now allow people to plug in their cars, but the average EV now can travel 300 to 400k's on a single charge, so this would cover most weekly travel to work and recharge on the weekends. I used to laugh at the idea of an EV, but with these rip off fuel companies, an EV for general run around car for work and general suburban driving, looking good now I think.

[@williamegler8771]

If you claimed that a Tesla is anything less than PERFECT in the United States the "FAN BOYS" would put a contract on your life...

[@ReDriven]

Hence why we hide here in Australia!

[@rmcfadde1]

I have owned many vehicles ...bmw, Porsche, audi, jaguar, range Rover but i love my used model s the most!

[@ReDriven]

Any dramas with it Rod??

[@rmcfadde1]

@@ReDriven no issues whatsoever, the car was in excellent shape when I bought it (80k miles). I did have to buy new tires (but that doesnt count lol) and also, surprisingly, I replaced all the rotors and brake pads. For whatever reason, the front brakes were creating alot of brake dust and the back rotors had slight rust so I just went ahead and replaced them (but even Tesla told me I did not need to do that). Great cars for sure though.

[@jesperkennolsen3109]

Same here... Used to prefer Italian sportscars (not going to bore you w. details ;- ) but to my surprise my Model S Performance has become my favorite. It never gets old when the Porsches etc. sees it and think: "oh, another slow electric floater..." - 3.2sec later and they'r left at 0-100'. It does come in to the matter that here in Denmark we have approx. 180% car-tax; no joke. Not on electric cars, though; even the top-end like Tesla Model S/performance goes at around 25% car-tax, so that changes things a bit when comparing w. other sportscars in the top-range. Its not w.o. its faults: On warranty its got changed its entire battery-pack; entire engines; as well as MCU/memory-system. That's the 3 central parts of the car. Still, as long as Tesla pays for the replacements and I get a new Tesla to have fun with during the work... I'm not complaining :- ]