STOP Wasting Your Time Writing Prompts

[@eMeriPartners]

Talking projects through with Claude, is more productive than teams chatting with most people in my office 😁

[@rossjones2439]

your production and communication make watching your video a delight. Thank you.

[@slackerpope]

Top notch information. Great video. Thank you. It would be really cool to see your final prompt for this project.

[@scullc]

I am a fan of your videos - but did you forget to mention - your method requires payment? You need to buy credits to use the prompt generator...

[@LarryReynoso-c2g]

This tutorial has helped me tremendously!

[@Social-vid]

Thank you for your channel. I am writing a short- medium size story with Claude. I believe my chat is now too long because I now keep getting an error code that says my prompt is too long while I am trying to expand the story. It seems many others have run into the same error message. I am hesitant to start a new chat because I don’t want Claude to forget about the story that I have been writing thus far. Will upgrading to the pro version solve this error, or do you know a way around this?

[@NourEldin_z3r0]

you shared a non-fiction longform article writing prompt before for claude 2.0, can we get an update for that prompt for current sonnet 3.5?

[@Lia_T]

I would have liked to have known the cost up front. You don't mention it and the information is buried in the info on their website. I am not keen on providing billing info to actually find out the cost, particularly when I haven't even had a chance to try it out.

[@facedeer]

"Prompt engineering" is just a fancy way of saying "talking to the AI in a way that adequately conveys what you want and that will convince it to comply," and that's something we've always had to do with humans since we first started working together on stuff. If AI becomes sophisticated enough that it's able to figure out what we want and provide it to us without us having to say anything at all then I think we'll be well into the Singularity by that point. Sounds like what we have here is just moving from prompting AIs directly to prompting an AI that generates prompts for other AIs. Very useful, but still writing prompts.

[@eMeriPartners]

Amen.

[@aibiztoolz]

Prompt is not necessary anymore (even chatGPT says that). It was in the beginning but nowadays chatGPT is so much better that you can just use normal language and ask anything like you would ask to a normal person.

[@facedeer]

@@aibiztoolz That's what a prompt is, though. It's the request you send to the AI. It's usually in natural language, that's the point of training LLMs to understand normal human communication.

[@fkxfkx]

@@facedeerwrong. Now you simply state your desired result or outcome and the ai will figure out what is needed to achieve it. Whatever it uses may not even be recognizable in human language , possibly a string of numbers

[@facedeer]

@@fkxfkx "You simply state your desired result" *is prompting*. That's the prompt. You tell the AI what you want. There's nothing magic about it.

[@MartinWessels-KrakowPoland]

Any idea how to fully use Claude in europe

[@montanadivacreations9267]

So you need to buy credits or can we use it with OpenRouter?

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

You buy credits but it’s the same price as OpenRouter.

[@Zobeid]

Man… I know you are The Nerdy Novelist, but all this seems too nerdy for me. I write my prompts just as if I were talking to a human collaborator. That's the whole point of these models, that they're supposed to accept natural language. Now, admittedly, I'm doing my work in Novelcrafter, so it's doing the meta-prompting and feeding the model its required context from the codex, the summaries, etc. And I've got to say, all this structural analysis of a story is really not my thing. It seems like a lot of effort and complication that's only going to get in the way of the story concept that I've already got in mind that I want to tell.

[@aibiztoolz]

Prompt is not necessary anymore (even chatGPT says that). It was in the beginning but nowadays chatGPT is so much better that you can just use normal language and ask anything like you would ask to a normal person.

[@blessingmfj]

Will you continue tweaking yourself and sharing the results in a follow-up? I’m very curious as to how close it can get to the bare general structure of a fiction text.

[@RobertLindberg-cv3vj]

Thanks for this video. Yes prompting is scary. Feels like I have to be a tech specialist. So I am looking for a way to have an AI only mimic my style of writing, my words and phrases, tone, voice layout etc. I dont want the style of all other authors around the world. If it solely mimics my writing then we could publish with traditional publishers? Is there some kind of blank AI that could do this? We would need to feed it some chapters of course for it to mimic. This would be game changing. I guess its possible to prompt engineer the way you are showing it here to mimic my style as much as possible, but it might still write with all of its trained data. That’s why it would be awesome with some kind of blank AI.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

Traditional publishers are still going to demand that an original work be created by a "human author" as required by the U.S. Copyright Office. The portion produced by generative AI must be disclaimed in the copyright application since this portion is ineligible for copyright. A publishing house isn't going to take the risk of investing money in an author's work only to have it copied and then find that the copyright won't hold up in court. Would you?

[@RobertLindberg-cv3vj]

@@gaiustacitus4242 my idea is to not have any “borrowed” portion produced by the AI. It will only use the chapters written by my hand to generate a scene with my style only. So a blank AI. As if I am writing it but only sped up.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

​@@RobertLindberg-cv3vj That doesn't count for copyright protection. If AI generates the text, then that portion of the output must be disclaimed in the copyright application, leaving only the portion created by the "human author" eligible for copyright. Machine generated content is not eligible for copyright. To quote directly from the U.S. Copyright Office's document 'Copyright Registration Guidance: Works Containing Material Generated by Artificial Intelligence': "In the Office's view, it is well-established that copyright can protect only material that is the product of human creativity." Based on the guidance in this document, it would be necessary to prove to the U.S. Copyright Office that the work has "creative input or intervention from a human author" else the copyright application would be rejected. Even if a copyright application is accepted and a work involving AI generated content is registered, a federal court could later determine the copyright to be invalid. I am looking to use AI for purely editorial functions, such as looking for errors in spelling, grammar, and diction. I am a very prudent and conservative man who does not believe in testing the gods of fate.

[@JaxF-q5e]

maybe not copy word for word but I guess you can use ideas and rewrite it?

[@RobertLindberg-cv3vj]

@@gaiustacitus4242 so even if absolutely everything is generated from my words, phrases, layouts, structure, voice, tone etc and absolutely no data training has been generated, I will still be disqualified for publishing just because I had a AI write it out for me? That’s weird. If the AI is somehow blank and no data training has been done and its only me then there is no issue. Its only writing in my style, based on the chapters i have written by hand before. Then they need to update the laws. Which they would if this blank AI existed.

[@wonderingknight6279]

I'm confused. This entire video is you doing prompt engineering.

[@Dfarm2262]

I don’t fully understand this program. Can someone dumb it down for me?

[@drpat22]

Try having Claude do it for you. You can get it free and it's great. I use Claude ALL the time for everything from writing story outlines to getting simple explanations of complex ideas.

[@Dfarm2262]

@@drpat22 but which is better? Chat or Claude? I’m doing some works building and I want the best version I can get my hands in.

[@Dex000x]

Wait... first video of yours I've seen. Are you showing people how to get AI to tell them stories? Like audio books, but with a story AI makes up?

[@gordonmcginnis7274]

Love what you put out here. Please don't think I am slamming you. This is just some feedback for you to consider when recording your vids. And remember this is just one person's opinion. In this vid your are way to close to the camera. Made it hard to watch. Made me uncomfortable. Suggest you back away from the camera a bit. 😉

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

Hm. I’ll consider this. The way it’s set up it would be a bit difficult.

[@kenross4453]

I have a paid professional plan for Claude. When I go to the console website, I had to create a whole new separate account, even with the same email as my professional plan's email. And then it wants me to buy credits to do anything on the console website. I'd have thought a professional plan member of claude should have crossover there... annoying.

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

It’s their API. It’s a separate thing. Pay as you go. Just like OpenAI’s playground.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

Prompt engineering will be with us as long as AI is being used. The more specific the prompt, the better the output will come to matching the desired output.

[@fkxfkx]

Wrong. You’ll soon be giving an agent your desired outcome or result and it will develop the prompt on its own needed to achieve it

[@gaiustacitus4242]

@@fkxfkx How's the opium that is fueling your pipe dream? Ask AI whether or not prompt engineering will still be required. You won't like the fact that AI agrees with me.

[@Garydoug]

You still have to prompt the agent ​@@fkxfkx

[@avinashjagdeo]

Prompt engineering is not a real thing. Studying the rules for monopoly won't work if you decide to play clue. And that's what different models are like. There are no standardized training protocols.

[@jtjames79]

​@@avinashjagdeo There's a strong correlation between people on the tism spectrum and getting better results with AI. Classic situation of watching two different movies on the same screen.

[@pdworld3421]

Geeze. I have to tell you- it takes me 5 minutes to write a plot without ai and 2 hours with.

[@charlesmendeley9823]

Never write your prompts anymore. Also: first write your "rough prompt". You may call that a prompt refinement, but you still started with a prompt.

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

It’s a brain dump.

[@StarlasAiko]

Ai won't cause mass unemployment, it instead creates a new high paying job type: Prompt Engineer. two hours later Don't write your own prompts. Let AI write the prompts for you.

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

lol. Yeah, ironic huh.

[@avinashjagdeo]

Prompt engineering is not a real thing. The way concepts are defined within large language models will vary greatly depending on who trained it. There could be common terms between models but all that you've become familiar with regarding talking to a particular model can be useless the next day when that model is replaced or thrown out

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

Yeah. I tweak prompts for each LLM usually.

[@thefreesoulchannel]

I don't like it when the creator leaves out it cost MONEY to use. Be more transparent!

[@JacanaProductions]

So this is a paid feature right ? Need credits it tells me.

[@drpat22]

Yes, but you can use Claude with limitations. Check it out.

[@CorkyChester]

Not sure how, it was asking me for credit card details before I could even have a look to see what my options were ​@@drpat22

[@Francisluther-p3x]

Prompt engineering is frustrating

[@unfluster]

I really loved you in the beginning, but every 3 months you're like.... "OH FORGET THAT!! Technology has changed. Use this!!!" (SIGH!!!) I know it's not your fault, nonetheless, it's very frustrating.

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

That’s AI’s fault. It’s constantly evolving and I try to recommend what I genuinely believe to be the best ways to write with it.

[@elephantintheroom5678]

Prove to me that AI can write interesting character specific dialogue, and use it to gradually develop a plot, with lifelike detail, and interesting pacing. AI is great for visual art, but it has a long way to go at writing fiction.

[@aibiztoolz]

you're wrong my friend, not only can chatGPT create a complete interesting dialogue between characters, but it can also create a plot WAY better than the plots we see on movies nowadays, which by the way is not hard. In order to accomplish this you need the paid premium plan in order to get the amount of tokens necessary and memory to build a complete story.

[@danielm5386]

@@aibiztoolzcan you suggest some prompts or a way to produce good plots

[@elephantintheroom5678]

@@aibiztoolz I'm not talking about a movie, I'm talking about a fully integrated novel. It can't do it.

[@TheNerdyNovelist]

Oh my friend. I know many MANY authors who could prove this to you.

[@elephantintheroom5678]

@@TheNerdyNovelist Well, maybe so. But can just ONE of you guys on KZbin do a demonstration of using AI to do so? Just one of you guys? Prove it? Then I'd be happy to eat my words.