You can know someone for a long time and never really truly know them. I once had a friend who I'd known for 15 years who was accused of something bad (not sexual) and I was like "there's no way he's got that in him". Turned out that he did have it in him, sadly, when the evidence came to light.
@K-dawg269 ай бұрын
What did he do, kill somebody?
@JimmyMac-jo3zh9 ай бұрын
Financial crime, it was. Seemed like the last person who'd ever steal money from anyone.
@K-dawg269 ай бұрын
@JimmyMac-jo3zh That's true. Sometimes it's the ones closest to you that do that and you wouldn't think they'd do it.
@Giveme1goodreason9 ай бұрын
True I know a girl who has worked as an escort behind the back of the man she’s marrying since 2013. I’d tell him if he wasn’t such an entitled arrogant spastic who always treated me like garbage. But I get to laugh he’s marrying a woman he’s unknowingly shared with over 1000 blokes. (That’s a light estimate.
@shutup27519 ай бұрын
did he change his ways ?
@jordza2k119 ай бұрын
The best thing Taker can do is say nothing on this
@Truth725009 ай бұрын
Not in lawsuit So I don't see why he needs to address
@jordza2k119 ай бұрын
@F5_cena exactly my point the best thing to do is stay out of it, look what happens when people not involved say anything, doesn't go well (see Kevin nash)
@Truth725009 ай бұрын
@@jordza2k11 agree he should focus on his life right now and let Vince and those deal involved with this
@ignatiusjackson2359 ай бұрын
He's going to start a wrestling podcast and refuse to acknowledge the biggest story in wrestling? That doesn't appear conspicuous at all! 😂 He doesn't have to say much about it. Just tell the people you'd prefer not to discuss it out of respect to all parties involved. "It's none of my business" is better than radio silence.
@unusualaquariumecosystems58059 ай бұрын
@@Truth72500But won't they want to ask all the wrestlers if they knew and what they knew as part of any evidence collection?
@HawklordLI9 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more with Dutch about Bob Costas. He's always been a mealy-mouthed, arrogant, know-it-all who never knows when too shut up.
@PRATERVXEX9 ай бұрын
The only good thing about him is his appearance in Baseketball
@IronDiva9 ай бұрын
He’s a pompous F, and thinks he’s the elder statesman of all sports.
@MikeyP19839 ай бұрын
Can't stand Costas I loved it when Vince went off on him ,he really had it coming
@MikeyP19839 ай бұрын
So all of this is what the Shane McMahon lock box secret was about! Ha
@MikeyP19839 ай бұрын
Mark Calaway will probably go for the christian stance with Vince McMahon
@HepCatJack9 ай бұрын
With the allegations around Pat Patterson and Moolah, it's possible that there were problems in the company even before Vince bought it from his father.
@ShadowAngel6069 ай бұрын
That goes for the entire wrestling business. If you think the other promoters weren't like him and there was a lot of nasty stuff going on backstage, you'd be a fool (and Moolah basically just repeated what she learned from Billy Wolfe)
@UMAMIMAMU9 ай бұрын
Yeah. It's almost like this type of thing can happen anywhere and with anybody? In fact, it almost seems like there's nothing even _new_ about it. The only reason it's such popular news nowadays is that people like to talk about it because it gives them a soapbox of morality to grandstand on. "Virtue signaling" as it's popularly referred to these days.
@BodieB9 ай бұрын
@@UMAMIMAMUjust want to be clear. Are you saying that there's nothing wrong with tunes activities?
@TheFlashman9 ай бұрын
@@UMAMIMAMUbeing against rape is 'virtue signalling'?
@UMAMIMAMU9 ай бұрын
@@TheFlashman When there's no evidence that one even actually occurred and you're just blindly believing the accuser? Absolutely.
@VXGaming9 ай бұрын
Taker seems like the guy that won't talk and act on something unless he's seen it, not heard it.
@kennethtomer55539 ай бұрын
Hopefully he didn't see vince pooping on some girls head
@chrismccoy64819 ай бұрын
😂 he seems like the guy that will STFU when it comes to the guy paying him a shitload of money.
@ShadowAngel6069 ай бұрын
Why am i not surprised that people instantly jump to the defense of Undertakers? IF it was Pat Patterson all of you would be pointing fingers. Hypocrisy at its finest.
@kennethtomer55539 ай бұрын
@@ShadowAngel606 why you mention Pat? Because he is like men.Or he bothered young boys? What exactly did the Undertaker do for you to compare him to Pat or any other name your going to throw out there. Undertaker is accused of nothing an it shouldn't matter if people are going to his defense because he is a straight up stand up guy according to everyone that talks about him. Go find one thing about taker that's out there that does t make him a stand up guy. Just because someone is old doesn't mean they didn't do horrible things to underage boys. I.E. the ring boy scandal.
@VXGaming9 ай бұрын
@@ShadowAngel606 you also have people that condemned him saying he knew without evidence. If this was the case then you have to throw everyone's close the Vince under bus.
@AntiSoberSam9 ай бұрын
I believe Undertaker knew Vince had this girlfriend he had put in the office, I think everyone did. But not about the debauchery and abuse. I've always got the impression (not like I know him of course) that he's got decent principles and is a moral, straight shooting kinda guy.
@JimmyMac-jo3zh9 ай бұрын
I suspect that a lot of people knew that Vince liked chasing younger women, was cheating on his wife, etc. But more than not, I don't know.
@geedee12649 ай бұрын
When they desecrated Rene Duprees flag, he asked Undertaker what he should do to handle it, Undertaker said find the person responsible and handle it, he found out years later Undertaker ordered it, you don't stay on top of professional political players without being a world class deceiver
@JimmyMac-jo3zh9 ай бұрын
I keep getting Dupree's vids recommend, but I just can't get into them. He looks like he's recording them in his car, on a potato.
@tomcruiiseship94619 ай бұрын
@@JimmyMac-jo3zhya that is some terrible production. How hard is it just sit in front of a wall with some better lights
@tysontomko9 ай бұрын
I can see the Undertaker fucking a girl with Vince though lol
@MrLawyer7119 ай бұрын
When someone turns out to be a serial killer do people accuse all his/her friends and family of knowing about it?
@Just_A_Tim9 ай бұрын
I don't think serial killers are in the habit of pimping out their victims to their serial killer friends/employees and making them sign NDA's.
@chadd9909 ай бұрын
Sort of, yeah. They often wonder how the family, especially the parents couldn’t see the warning signs. I don’t think they accuse them partaking in the crimes, and I don’t think anyone is accusing Undertaker of partaking either. You don’t have to witness the crimes to know that something is off. I don’t think anyone is holding undertaker responsible either. We’re in the dark and we just want clarity.
@chrismccoy64819 ай бұрын
Yes😂 are you fckn kidding? That's literally what they do 🤣🥴🤦♂️
@clarencegutsy73099 ай бұрын
It's easy okay. You just have to be a psychic.
@FredGSanford.9 ай бұрын
Series killers didn’t shit where they eat so to speak. Vince was stinking the joint up and everyone around could smell what was cooking.
@scriptphase9 ай бұрын
Lots of “guilt by association“ assumptions in these comments. Looking at Vince’s texts, it comes across that lots of people behind the scenes knew about Janel Grant being Vince’s lover, but the only ones that will have to answer for not speaking out are people that knew it was coerced and nonconsensual.
@_Help_Me_Jebus9 ай бұрын
Doubt anyone will have thought that, no reason too
@Damn_Smooth9 ай бұрын
Imagine thinking rapists go around telling everyone they know that they're rapists. If a rape even happened. People are ridiculous these days. None of my coworkers know anything about my sex life and I don't even rape anybody.
@suckit50929 ай бұрын
How was is NOT consensual? She could have stopped seeing him at any time, give me a break 🙄
@PenskePC179 ай бұрын
I think the non consensual part is very up for debate. Talking in absolutes like you're doing is what ruined Trevor Bauers career in baseball, even though we now know his accuser was lying.
@UMAMIMAMU9 ай бұрын
@@suckit5092Yeah I don't get it. She did disgusting things to try and get ahead in life and it worked. That's the beginning and the end of the story as far as any rational person is concerned. Disturbingly, there's people out there that seem to think merely being in the presence of a powerful person instantly renders "normal people" incapacitated, incapable of rational thought, and completely bereft of a moral compass. We're talking about a grown woman in her freaking 40's that was in a creepy (bus clearly consensual) BDSM relationship with another adult. Considering the extreme fetishistic angle of the whole thing, even isolated incidences of reputed "force" would have to be pored over with a fine-tooth comb. I could very easily see an extreme relationship like that getting out of control if both partners don't set very solid concrete barriers. Honestly, in this age of sexual freedom and the commercialization of sexual acceptance, it really surprises me that so many people are basically willing to completely damn Vince based largely off his fetishes. I find them highly disturbing as well, but what he gets his rocks off on is up to him.
@lorddeathspit11249 ай бұрын
Taker probably knew about the affair but what’s he’s supposed to do? I highly doubt he knew there was abuse going on. It’s not like abusers tell their buddies “yea I love mistreating her and doing other illegal things.”
@Loe_Jist7 ай бұрын
That's the thing: people keep trying to believe everyone is sinister, despicable, and complicit in McMahon's scandals. They're not thinking practically or realistically. People are watching everything like it's a TV show or a movie where characters know more than they let on and are in on it just because they're close friends with the villain or related to him. Unless there's a huge story that breaks soon, it's fairly safe to say that nobody knew more than "Vince is having another affair." How much do we know about the sex lives of our parents, siblings, kids (assuming 18+), friends, coworkers, neighbors? We may know that X is dating/married to Y. Why would we know much more than that? Why would we know what they like in bed and the raunchy details of their sex lives? It's nuts that people think just because someone is very close with another person means they know all of the details about them in EVERY area of their life. I know that my brother, who I'm very close to and see regularly, is currently in a relationship. She's a lovely person and easygoing. They're quite happy together. That's it. I don't know anything about their sex life. I don't want to know anything about their sex life. Undertaker and McMahon are very close friends. They always have been. McMahon hasn't been faithful to Linda in decades and that's well known. Beyond that and his string of affairs, why should Undertaker or anyone else have known that something nefarious was going on?
@OneCut1Slash9 ай бұрын
Next up, what did Gillberg know?
@dylanstreibig92349 ай бұрын
Followed by the head of catering
@That_Guy-9 ай бұрын
And R truth, was he really injured 😂
@patbrooks98239 ай бұрын
They all knew. But since Vince is lord and savior, they'll never utter a bad word.
@Highground6099 ай бұрын
You never know
@Dr1House9 ай бұрын
@@patbrooks9823 ppl like u are really fkg stupid. Do u just live online? Ppl in reality can be really good at hiding things...just like u...you're really good at hiding any kind of intelligence. Good for you ;)
@johansmallberries98749 ай бұрын
Total mark(no pun intended) opinion, but Taker is one of the few I feel like I could give benefit of the doubt to. Mainly because by all accounts, he was a moral authority backstage(enough to be judge of wrestlers court) and had enough popularity to jump ship and not starve if he saw something like all of this awful shit going down. He just seems like a guy, if your his boss or not, you don’t want disappointed in you.
@dorkandproudofit8 ай бұрын
Not to mention, psychos like Vince are TERRIFYING in their ability to convince otherwise good people to overlook their behavior. Charisma and false charm are powerful things, and a good deal of what makes sociopaths so dangerous.
@dead_kennedy99059 ай бұрын
We will never get undertaker’s opinion on this. He’s always loved McMahon, and he knows no one wants to hear him defend Vince and he probably doesn’t have it in him to tear Vince down. Doesn’t mean he was aware of what Vince was doing but I think it’s understandable to not want to comment about a close friends scandal.
@missplebbharuko9 ай бұрын
you are so right. this whole situation is ridiculous. yes vince and taker were close, but that doesn't mean he knew absolutely everything that was going on! association doesn't mean guilt.
@Jacob-jg6cd9 ай бұрын
I find it difficult to imagine Taker didn’t see or hear anything about Vince in all of the years he was in the company given how Vince supposedly told all of those tech guys about his private sex life.
@AscensionOfAuriel9 ай бұрын
That is chronologically 34 years in the making and before that. Taker has been with WWF/WWE since late 1990. I am sure he had at least heard some rumors, or innuendos about Vince. Not that he believed them at first, but as time had progressed, I am sure Taker gave some reasonable doubts once in a while. Just like SSJ2Phenom said, he has been a part timer since 2011 and now retired. My question is if he saw something shady from 1990 until 2011. That is two decades of being with Vince all the time. He even saw how women were treated in early 2000's by Vince privately and on screen. Taker would have recognized red flags a long time ago, I am just saying.
@divockorigi18239 ай бұрын
Roman Defo knew too. All the top guys of the company probably knew
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
Are you a pervert? 🤔
@andreholly20278 ай бұрын
Dutch knew too and said and did nothing so he’s just as guilty as the guys he’s accusing
@ARandomGuy243 ай бұрын
It's fairly common for abusers to straight up lie to his victims. He tells her this trying to get her to feel ashamed of herself and isolate her to prevent her from feeling like she can reach out and talk to people because she's being told they all know about her.
@joshuabowen69199 ай бұрын
We can't just go blindly accusing everyone of knowing about it or having a part in it
@DekesDiveClub9 ай бұрын
the fuck we can't -- these are people who also think that placing human shit in someone's luggage is a prank
@joshuabowen69199 ай бұрын
@@DekesDiveClub I'm talking specifically about The Undertaker. He doesn't strike me as the "shit in luggage" kinda person. Not to mention a few people are assholes so we unquestionably hold all accountable.
@NinjasBeTrippin9 ай бұрын
@@DekesDiveClubtf one have to do with the other? 😂
@joshuabowen69199 ай бұрын
@@ithinkaboutthings9052 people will just jump to the most awful conclusion, without having any meaningful information.
@SSJ2Phenom9 ай бұрын
Undertaker has been a part time/one match a year guy since 2011. He was never an office employee and he worked like 6 weeks out of the year. It is very very plausible that he didn't know a thing, but hey y'all know everything.
@Algo19 ай бұрын
Dutch, as always, is spot on.
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
How do you know? You've never met him 😂
@Algo19 ай бұрын
@@Snyper1405 how do you know I don't? Of course, if any clarification was needed, I meant on this podcast. Wow
@ymca45479 ай бұрын
Tito Santana worked in the WWF for many many years, from the 1970s, and knew Vince well. Should we bring him in for summary execution too just because?
@JSowder218 ай бұрын
Same thing with John Cena. He was the biggest star in WWE. SURELY he knew something!! Right??
@JSowder218 ай бұрын
My comment was sarcastic, jumping ahead of all the smooth brains.
@Tonetare8 ай бұрын
37 years old and been following Undertaker since I was a kid. I am here to tell you I think Dutch called this one spot on about Undertaker and Vince and what's going on in their friendship and how Mark still sees him. I think Dutch is a cantankerous fellow but spot on in everything he says.
@nanofate86629 ай бұрын
I think Undertaker knew Vince had a wild side, but I don't think that knowledge amounted more than "Vince does crazy things with the boys".
@JonathanRamsey879 ай бұрын
I think Taker is doing the right thing and just living his Life and doing his thing and enjoying retirement I can’t see him as someone who woulda known something and stayed quiet He’s a Good guy
@Highground6099 ай бұрын
Thats what they said about Brock and Vince 😂
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
@@Highground609so are you basically saying taker was par-taking in criminal activities with Vince? 🤣🤣🤣
@Highground6099 ай бұрын
@Snyper1405 That's not what I said at all, my point is to never fully defend someone because they've been all sunshine on tv or in real life, we've already seen that from Vince and Brock.
@AFBN9 ай бұрын
@@Highground609in fairness though Vince has always been grimy, the Snuka thing, steroid trial etc he has a sketchy history. He was definitely not all sunshine, Vince has a dark history
@northshorenerds9 ай бұрын
Undertaker will be doing a spoken word tour of most Australian capital cities starting in less than a week. Good chance he will get Vince questions from the audience.
@Kaiser499TV9 ай бұрын
If he even allows questions.
@studioseppuku94549 ай бұрын
I'm actually kinda dreading some smart ass asking him
@newhybrid1018 ай бұрын
"You know Vince,you know back in the day,you know, you know"
@freemind69549 ай бұрын
Guessing Dutch doesn't know this but Vince had actually seen Mark's last match in WCW against Lex Luger and didn't like what he saw. He was then encouraged to meet Mark. He did and liked and hired him.
@adamwatson69169 ай бұрын
Taker has been gone for several years and only wrestled once a year for the last 10 years he was there but now we want to tar and feather him because he was one of Vinces guys . Lots or people saying they are convinced Taker knew and offer no evidence
@williamjones10779 ай бұрын
Spot on!!
@Tumorcoach9 ай бұрын
I say this is people and get mad saying I’m a fanboy and I’m like dude just show me some evidence. Simply saying some knew because they worked with them isn’t evidence
@alexmartin31439 ай бұрын
It’s not a dig on Taker if he knew. Forgive the pun. Vince was just so careless and open about it anyone close to him was bound to know. Doesn’t mean he condones it.
@williamjones10779 ай бұрын
Exactly….I highly doubt Taker was riding shotgun when Vince was parading around cheating on his wife and if Vince really did what this woman is alleging, I don’t think Vince would’ve been blabbing about it at the office.
@Tumorcoach9 ай бұрын
@@alexmartin3143 but the claim he knows requires evidence which nobody seems to have that taker or certain people know outside of those already in court
@O1d1rty9 ай бұрын
Its crazy how much more relevant and knowledgeable this podcast and jim cornettes podcast are then other wrestling podcast
@XTheeKing9 ай бұрын
Mean Mark to The Undertaker is one of the greatest gimmick changes ever hands down
@SLAPTALK9 ай бұрын
Rest. In. Peeeeeace. 🎩🙄🫴⚱️
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽@@SLAPTALK
@colinimhof96578 ай бұрын
@fotwc13that wasn’t his gimmick for mean mark there really wasn’t much behind that gimmick. Although Texas Red when he wrestled under that name, his gimmick was one that had killed two men in a bar fight and then having served his prison time was released and pursued wrestling to fill that void of hurting people.
@colinimhof96578 ай бұрын
@fotwc13 I mean if there is a video cool. Curious. It couldn’t have been too big of a part of his gimmick because I couldn’t find too much about it. But I regardless the bar fight thing and prison backstory is for sure all legit.
@BigDaveT.V9 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter what the undertaker knew. If Taker wasn't apart of it leave him alone. Minding your own business isn't illegal
@GokuMcDuck9 ай бұрын
It depends.
@TheInvertedFollicle5079 ай бұрын
Maybe not but potentially being an enabler of the messed up shit Vince was clearly involved in most likely is. If Taker in any way stood aside and allowed that to happen then that potentially opens the door to litigation. Given how long Taker knew Vince behind the scenes and in front of the camera it's not unreasonable to suspect he probably knew something.
@VoiceOvReason9 ай бұрын
The amount of people judging Taker as guilty without any shred of evidence is damning of this generations society, now it's Guilty until innocent no matter what
@williamjones10779 ай бұрын
All the sudden everybody who knows McMahon is implicated?? Christ, this has just gotten absurd. Dutch Mantell knows the Undertaker very well and he’s never said a bad word about him, ever.
@chriswhite829 ай бұрын
Perhaps you're blowing this out of proportion. All kinds of people have speculated about who knew what. Vince and Taker are very close and while I'm a big fan of Taker and think enough of his integrity that I doubt he would even speak on the subject much less have knowledge of Vince's vile deeds, it isn't out of order to suggest the notion.
@paulmallon92929 ай бұрын
@@chriswhite82I would say it's fairly out of order to suggest someone is complicit to charges of sexual assault by association with no evidence. That people don't equate that notion to their own life and the implication that has on everyone in these cases is astounding to me.
@EpicPour999 ай бұрын
dude, Taker and Vince were beyond tight. If the internet is going to destroy Lesner's career for knowing what was going on then you can't give Taker a pass.
@paulmallon92929 ай бұрын
@@EpicPour99 Lesnar was all but named in the civil case as 'former UFC heavyweight champion'. it's in the case. Taker isn't even alluded to in any of what has been released through media or in the civil case. It's completely different. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Taker was involved or knew. If a member of my family turned out to be doing something like this for example, how the hell would I know if it was behind closed doors? At this moment in time, that's an objective fact that he isn't involved in the current case. If he is eventually named and guilty of anything then to hell with him but he hasn't been. People are openly accusing someone of being involved with sexual assault and trafficking here with no evidence. If you want to live in a world where that's okay then that's your prerogative.
@GMoney710749 ай бұрын
@@EpicPour99Lesnar didn’t just know, he is named and involved. Whether Taker knew is one thing, he isn’t named. I am sure everyone knew of affairs but didn’t know he liked to defecate on women and name sex toys
@KILL3RKARAKO38 ай бұрын
They all know case closed
@SSJ2Phenom9 ай бұрын
Undertaker has been a part time/one match a year guy since 2011. He was never an office employee and he worked like 6 weeks out of the year. It is very very plausible that he didn't know a thing, but hey y'all know everything.
@dharris1084able9 ай бұрын
You mentioned 2011... but he knew him since the 80's... you think he don't know somethings that went on in the 90's or are we just going to act like Vince just recently became this evil??
@Just_A_Tim9 ай бұрын
@@dharris1084ableif you listen to Jim Cornette talk about him, it certainly doesn't sound like the man he knew in the 90's. He spent a whole heck of a lot longer than anybody in this comment section around Vince, so I'm going to take his word for it that this is a more recent development, as a combination of old age, unchecked power, steroids, and who knows what else.
@MoodSwing9169 ай бұрын
@@dharris1084able Oh please. Maybe he stays out of relationships that aren't his. It is none of the employees responsibility to keep tabs on McMahons personal life.
@SSJ2Phenom9 ай бұрын
@@dharris1084able So everyone that has known Vince over the past 40 years is implicated? That's basically what your comment implies. So I guess on the next video, Dutch will be talking about if he knew?
@patbrooks98239 ай бұрын
@@Just_A_Tim Cornette's track record is $ht for speaking up for people. He defends Jim Barnett, New Jack, Bruiser Bedlam among others. You're only a horrible person in his eyes if you pissed him off (Russo, Kevin Dunn, Trump).
@crissy43469 ай бұрын
As a lifelong fan of Undertaker, I would be very disappointed if it comes out that he was involved in or knew anything about this, but I don't think he was. Taker seems like a decent guy. For now I'm giving Taker my faith in his integrity
@BigDaveT.V9 ай бұрын
It doesnt matter if he knew as long as he wasnt involved
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
@@BigDaveT.Valof of guys besides the undertaker probably knew but weren't involved. It's only speculation of course
@acidmack10418 ай бұрын
@BidoBuckets if you knew but didn't say or do anything about it doesn't that make you involved?
@adamsisseck46668 ай бұрын
Smartest thing to say is no comment on an active investigation
@gavrielchaya27969 ай бұрын
Thats why hes the Undertaker He still has to finish their burial alive match of 2003
@Mikeh20779 ай бұрын
It’s possible. Given Taker’s loyalty to Vince all these years. He might have known.
@ymca45479 ай бұрын
So what do you do? Bring him in for torture or what?
@bradleywilson56419 ай бұрын
Heard of it but not seen anything himself
@BF1-P8 ай бұрын
What loyalty have to do with things the other person did it in his private time? Doesn’t make sense.
@dorkandproudofit8 ай бұрын
One thing people should remember is that guys like Vince are EXTREMELY charismatic, even charming. They can lie to your face, you KNOW they're lying to you, but by the end of the conversation they'll have you laughing it off. You might think "I wouldn't be manipulated like that," but that is PRECISELY the mindset scumbags like Vince use to get away with their crimes for so long. Taker has, in the past, confronted Vince about his sleazy actions--the aftermath of the Montreal Screwjob comes to mind--which IMHO shows his own good character. But the fact that he kept coming back to Vince is not necessarily a sign of weakness, nor of moral failure; MOST people would fall for that, especially those who work with and for him, and owe their success to him. It's scary.
@ymca45478 ай бұрын
@@dorkandproudofitYou would have fitted in nicely in Salem in the 17th century.
@TheMightyThor839 ай бұрын
This happened in 2020, the same year Undertaker retired. He wasn’t even physically there.
@bradleywilson56419 ай бұрын
Vince been doing it for decades
@TheMightyThor839 ай бұрын
@@bradleywilson5641 he’s been cheating on Linda and Linda on him, but this is the first time we’ve ever heard of him doing this.
@jamiesucie26859 ай бұрын
@@TheMightyThor83he’s paid out on multiple occasions and there are many others who are starting to speak up about their time in WWE. The only reason this came to light is because Vince negged on his own NDA promising not to out her and pay her the money he promised. Sexual assault in WWE has been covered up for years.
@TheMightyThor839 ай бұрын
@@jamiesucie2685 Pretty much anyone who worked there, and we fans, all knew Vince was a cheating creep. Did we know that he raped and took dumps on women, and did he broadcast that? No
@TheMightyThor839 ай бұрын
@@jamiesucie2685 we know he’s paid out before and cheated on Linda, but that was known by all the wrestlers, office workers, and us fans. His defecation on a woman and everything else he did, I don’t believe most people knew. It isn’t like he’s going to go around advertising it.
@brianhopson20729 ай бұрын
People probably knew Vince had girlfriends, but they didn't know what went on behind the bedroom door. That's not their business.
@benie5759 ай бұрын
Did you read the lawsuit?
@sergiolangston55409 ай бұрын
Undertaker has barely been in wwe for the last 13 years, how the hell would he have discovered anything about what was going on. And of all the people Vince wouldn't tell about all this evil shit, Taker is at top of the list. Didn't Taker nearly beat Vince's ass for the Montreal screwjob, this situation is way worse
@GregoryB-p7r9 ай бұрын
he’s appeared widely on wwe in the past 13 years
@patm959 ай бұрын
Vince has likely been this way for decades.
@Sam1c97979 ай бұрын
He is basically best friends with Vince.
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
@@Sam1c9797so what? Doesn't mean shit. Why is everyone so quick to say Mark Calaway is involved? I'm confused and it's very weird to be honest
@Sam1c97979 ай бұрын
@@Snyper1405 he must know something as did the majority. Never said he was involved kid
@mattphoenix47029 ай бұрын
With a situation this bad, people really should be more careful about saying that “Person X” was involved or knew or helped cover it up. Even if it’s possible to prove 3 months down the road that someone knows nothing about what Vince was doing, this is the kind of thing that leaves a stain and ruins reputations and legacies. You can be proven to be 100% innocent but that damage is done. Period. The overwhelming majority of the complaints took place in private homes and Titan Towers/corporate location. Vince wasn’t flying these women around the county with him, he wasn’t crapping on them in the middle of the men’s locker room. He wasn’t flaunting it. Vince and Linda haven’t even lived together in like what, 15 years? Vince has had a number of affairs and flings and side women for decades. How the hell should someone that WORKS for Vince be able to look at one particular woman and say “Oh this one is different. Vince is abusing her!” We all know, and have since at least the early 90’s, that Vince is human garbage. The rumors swirling around that man are horrifying and seemingly endless. I’m not saying it’s IMPOSSIBLE that someone like The Undertaker knew what was going on. I’m saying this is a very complicated situation involving a man who has revelled in controversy and in distorting the truth for over half a century. If the accusations are true-and I have no reason to doubt their validity-then Vince and everyone involved in this need to burn. It’s disgusting. It’s revolting. It’s hard to believe people are capable of such cruelty. But… let’s not paint ANYONE with this particular brush unless and until there is some actual PROOF. (Not aimed at Dutch. He’s a national treasure. Aimed at a number of people in the comment section)
@cameron35789 ай бұрын
What bad situation?
@JimmyMac-jo3zh9 ай бұрын
Agreed. We must also be careful of cranks with an axe to grind throwing out accusations against other people in the industry in the aftermath of this, knowing that people are angry and low on factual information at the home and willing to jump on anything. Remember the "shitty media men" list that ended up with lawsuits?
@JaceyMitchell9 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself.
@SSJ2Phenom9 ай бұрын
Undertaker has been a part time/one match a year guy since 2011. He was never an office employee and he worked like 6 weeks out of the year. It is very very plausible that he didn't know a thing, but hey everyone who ever said hi to Vince knew, am I right?
@Giantsfanlewis9 ай бұрын
@SSJ2Phenom he was also full time from 91 to 2011
@ziahamm16039 ай бұрын
Until it comes out Taker knew Vince was doing and failed to do anything about it lets just sheate the pitchforks hey? Its not been confirmed and there is no clear evidence in support either...yet.
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! Why is everyone all of a sudden jumping on the band wagon of condemning taker?
@Wolversquall8 ай бұрын
Nobody can convince me that Shawn Michaels and Vince ain’t done some stuff together .
@jamesgroover46439 ай бұрын
Undertaker, to me, is as great a gimmick as I've ever seen in our sport. I can't speak highly enough about how he kept straight faced for many years doing his character. You never hear anything but positives about the way Taker lead the lovker room. He seems like a good dude ⚰️⚱️🪦
@timthegem9 ай бұрын
As far as "being in Hollywood" making any difference...Bill Cosby's antics were said to be common knowledge among studio execs and actors dating back to the 1970s.
@ArminVanLiberty9 ай бұрын
Regardless of what Taker may or may not know, he's a man of character and morality. He actually went after Vince and demanded he apologize to Bret Hart during the Montreal Screwjob. If anyone knows the most it's HHH.
@PenskePC179 ай бұрын
Thw world is a very different place. The idea of the undertaker whistle-blowing if he knew something 10 20 years ago is hilarious, not only because nothing would have happened, but his career would be over, too. Almost no one in his position would have said anything.
@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE9 ай бұрын
People are talking about the Undertaker but it's weird because Rock was a Vince guy and he's right there. I get Taker had a different relationship but then the rock went to the top of Hollywood.. so he HAS to have seen horrible things
@mrsteinbergenson73487 ай бұрын
The Rock is now a member of the creative board too.
@PenskePC179 ай бұрын
Dutch is old school, he does everything of memory. You can give him sht when he gets things wron, but its still refreshing
@danielkelley27849 ай бұрын
Man people are starting to stretch with this first it was Shawn Michaels now we're going on to the undertaker. I'm over all this speculation how about we wait until it's all said and done and then we will know.
@brandonnotsowise26409 ай бұрын
Seriously, not even just this case, everyone’s always acting like judge and jury with half the story nowadays.
@romans52345-cy3tq9 ай бұрын
Shawn and Vince had a Gay relationship in the 90's
@almightyironhead259 ай бұрын
Thank you dutch. Wise as always. The undertaker DOES NOT have to address anything about the great Vince McMahon. Like dutch said. He don't owe anybody... anything!!
@stevebragg42569 ай бұрын
Some of us want to hear all sides of the story and see all the evidence available before we figure out our true feelings on anything until then it's best to be quiet. This person said this, that person said that. I want to see it hashed out in court and such. Not speculation and assumptions.
@Al-oh9yr9 ай бұрын
Well Vince gas the power to close this entire saga with his hush money
@younghits42849 ай бұрын
Taker along with all the other superstars knew much more than what they are letting on.
@chriskoenig73479 ай бұрын
Taker likely didn't know the details. Vince would have lost him at "threesome with me, pal" before even getting to anything else.
@MissterX9 ай бұрын
Jesus H. Christ this is just getting silly now. Yes, everyone is convinced that every person who ever knew Vince knows he (allegedly) shit on Janel Grants head. People do have personal lives, don't they?
@DairokutenMaoUwU8 ай бұрын
Taker is Vince's right-hand man, OF COURSE he knows something!
@VennyTheCrow5 ай бұрын
He isn't and never was.
@DairokutenMaoUwU5 ай бұрын
@@VennyTheCrow Oh my sweet summer child
@thewrestlingshow9 ай бұрын
Taker don’t owe Vince squat
@cathallynch19 ай бұрын
Taker is probably angry right now like a lot of people. Even if innocent, anyone linked to Vince looks guilty by association.
@IronDiva9 ай бұрын
I think it’d be pretty difficult for a lot of these guys to reconcile what’s gone on. Vince gave them all fabulous careers.
@Jackholiday10259 ай бұрын
I’m sure people knew Vince was a man whore but what if the relationship with Janel grant was entirely consensual ? That’s the question here.
@aswinastro9 ай бұрын
When you take the glory, you gotta take the shit as well. Sorry Man, that;s life! Hard luck to Taker!
@Uuusssaaas9 ай бұрын
Lol. The Undertaker knew what was going on, but those $10 Million per year paydays for one night of work are hard to turn down.
@TimiO478 ай бұрын
you dont know what he made smh@@Uuusssaaas
@Rick-si1re9 ай бұрын
Agreed with Dutch here, Taker is doing the right thing by not speaking on it at all, if he did, as Dutch said, folks with probably too much free time on their hands will just pick apart and dissect everything he said, and probably in effect misconstrue Taker's words. On a side note, I've said for about a decade now (Yes it's been a decade folks, well close enough to a decade since it's not quite Mania yet in 2024) that one of the worse things WWE ever did was break Taker's streak, that shouldn't have been touched, Taker deserved to go down in history as the man who never lost at Wrestlemania, and that streak in all likelihood will never ever be duplicated, so in essence, that's now gone, it was taken away from us. Furthermore, Mania just isn't the same without "The Streak" being on the line, it was like Taker's on personal WWE title.
@brownmut55189 ай бұрын
WOW! Vince sells and steps down and a huge amount of top guys from the past and the present are going to be scrutinized and probably publicly hung in the court of public opinion. Talk about "wrestlers court "
@ericgilbert569 ай бұрын
I remember that old Bob Costas interview with Vince talking about the XFL and Costas showing clips of the Trish Stratus angle... I bet he wishes could get Vince for another sit down.
@isaacgraham57279 ай бұрын
He actually did another live sit-down interview with him. You see, because the morning after the XFL interview aired Vince called up Costas and begged him for a “best two out of three.” He knew it was a fiasco.
@Mike-o7o4c9 ай бұрын
I'm convinced the undertaker knew something .
@tonyslicer73999 ай бұрын
🤡
@Teddy42O9 ай бұрын
I do too, He should be removed from WWE hall of fame & removed from WWE 2K24
@OceanOfDevotion9 ай бұрын
Same. they were very close and there is an interview floating around somewhere on YT where Taker is talking about blah blah the business the business, Vince taught me everything about the business and that's what's best for business and business is business and that was my business etc. He painted himself as Vince's protege of sorts and everyone knows they were very close. It would be shocking if Taker really did not know any of this was going on.
@bigdaddytrips61979 ай бұрын
Guarantee it , it's just a matter of time
@wateo17829 ай бұрын
All top guys knew. Hell, I'd even go so far as that even the jobbers knew what was happening behind the stage.
@henrikschmidt39649 ай бұрын
Since they decided to end the streak, I really think they should have booked it as Lance Storm suggested. They should have Undertaker declare that he would not retire until someone beat him at Wrestlemania. That would have preconditioned fans to expect it to happen at some point.
@matthewthomas91949 ай бұрын
Here's a thought for you weather taker knew or not he doesn't owe anyone shit!!!!
@RedfishCarolina9 ай бұрын
I grew up not far from Dutch's home town. I knew immediately he was baiting him with that stroke comment lol.
@tubster1059 ай бұрын
It was most likely an open secret there
@JimmyMac-jo3zh9 ай бұрын
I'm not sure myself. I wouldn't be surprised if people knew that Vince was cheating on his wife, or there were "hurr hurr, I bet she blew the boss to get that job" rumours going round - but everyone in the office knowing about straight up sexual abuse and saying nothing? I hope I'm not proven wrong.
@Magneticlaw9 ай бұрын
Cause you were there, or you have a feeling.....
@AndreGNSEntertainment9 ай бұрын
Why are people been trying to throw Undertaker into the mix on this case ?
@newhybrid1018 ай бұрын
Are you dumb? Because he is Vinces guy,thats why we are trying
@johnbarton419 ай бұрын
If you're going to talk to any wrestler. Talk to Shawn Michaels he knows all the secrets.
@funkyweapon19819 ай бұрын
HBGay knows something.
@johnbarton419 ай бұрын
@@funkyweapon1981 Why else would he have entrance music called Boy Toy. He was Vince and Patt Paterson's personal play thing thin
@jasons20239 ай бұрын
@@funkyweapon1981wouldn't be surprised if the ball got dropped again
@romans52345-cy3tq9 ай бұрын
@@johnbarton41Yes it has been rumored for years that Vince swings both ways
@nathanhosea4899 ай бұрын
@@johnbarton41 I wouldn't be surprised if it was like that.
@thenightowl77126 ай бұрын
Dutch genuinely has one of the most grounded views I think I’ve heard from any wrestler/podcaster. He’s right, Mark see’s Vince as a father figure. He can be disappointed in the behaviour and disagree 100% with anything Vince has allegedly done. Still, this is a grown ass man in his mid fifties. I think their relationship has stood the test of time, Taker stood by him with all other allegations over the years. There’s been so many things said about Vince, but the friendship they shared has always stood firm. I don’t see that changing at this stage in either of their lives. Personally I feel Cena is another who shares a very similar relationship with Vince, you could even potentially say The Rock too. Although, Rock seems more selective. Especially when it comes to his public image, he loves to project the good guy deep down, he doesn’t like himself to be cast in any negative light if he can help it 😅
@JMFSpike9 ай бұрын
I recall Undertaker doing an interview many years ago where he was asked if he'd ever do an autobiography. His answer was that he wouldn't because he had a few skeletons in the closest that he'd rather have stay there. I wonder if any of those skeletons had to do with things he might have done with Vince. He's always seemed like a good dude, and I'm sure he is, but good people can still do bad things from time to time.
@noahsarch37029 ай бұрын
So you're saying that Vince and Taker do the exact same things ??
@romans52345-cy3tq9 ай бұрын
@@noahsarch3702I don't know but Vince and Shawn definitely had a Gay relationship in the 90's
@curthennig94489 ай бұрын
@@romans52345-cy3tq Don't forget about Warrior.
@cloudxz929 ай бұрын
@@romans52345-cy3tq 😂 WTF?
@Snyper14059 ай бұрын
Still doesn't mean he was doing terrible shit like Mr McMahon though!!!
@Tibs_Budapest8 ай бұрын
The dissonance comes from that the Most Respected Man in wrestling is closely associated with the Most Disrespected one. As much as I am a mark for Taker since his debut at SS’90, this doesn’t have anything to do with his accomplishements or retirement. If he could do anything to help to bring justice to the victims, he must speak and act. If he fails to do it, that’s a problem.
@MrDrokkul9 ай бұрын
If Brock is being erased...did the streak ever really end?
@romans52345-cy3tq9 ай бұрын
Yes, When Roman Reigns beat him at 33
@GokuMcDuck9 ай бұрын
This.
@SuperKamiGuruu8 ай бұрын
@romans52345-cy3tq both non canon lmao
@romans52345-cy3tq8 ай бұрын
@@SuperKamiGuruu Did Undertaker not exist either? You may as well wipe out all of WWF/E'S history from 1982 - 2024
@SuperKamiGuruu8 ай бұрын
@@romans52345-cy3tq both non canon lmao
@3n1gm9018 ай бұрын
While I don't think Undertaker would ever do something to hurt anyone on purpose unless he was provoked or something, I truly believe he knows more than we could think of when it comes to vince mcmahon. Over 40 years of knowing each other, traveling together, their families know each other. Undertaker was literally the right hand of vince mcmahon. What silvio dante was to tony soprano, that's what undertaker is to vince.
@johans31648 ай бұрын
many people and wrestlers used to joke about how Vince was a "freak" and now, here we are. then when they described the Undertaker, its that he is "Don Corleone". i think he knows a LOT but i believe he is a person who doesnt want to involved himself in such an activity and choose to be "blissfully ignorant" about the whole situation
@watersandblue60019 ай бұрын
Taker is no saint either but i doubt he really knew. Just because their pretty close, doesn't mean he knew.
@heihvyegs9 ай бұрын
Yeahhh Vince would never have shown Undertaker all of the pictures/videos or Undertaker walking in/out whilst Vince spoke about abusing the girl.. Vince was showing everyone around the office and you think he wouldn’t show one of his closest boys? 😂
@mikeg24919 ай бұрын
@@heihvyegsIf Vince was showing everyone it seems a waste of money to pay for NDAs
@Tumorcoach9 ай бұрын
@@heihvyegshe didn’t speak about abusing here he was showing sexual content of her (nudies) I doubt anyone sees a abuse and goes she’s being abused
@rocketpigrecords37199 ай бұрын
That stroke joke got me. Perfect dry delivery and timing. For just a second you though he was going tsk tsk 😂
@romans52345-cy3tq9 ай бұрын
I'm sure Taker probably knew about Vince's EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIRS but he probably stayed out of it because like he said in his Last Ride Documentary "I would literally take a bullet for the man" that's a true friend right there
@heyoheyoh9 ай бұрын
Weird coincidence, I just watched the WCW Saturday Night where Teddy Long introduces Mean Mark. 1/6/1990 episode of the show. Teddy is great.
@Magneticlaw9 ай бұрын
As DDP said of the Vince matter: "I wasn't there, I don't know anything, so I have nothing of value to say." Taker should do the same. People are getting crazy with this witch hunt/canceling stuff. One person even declared that Bret Hart somehow knows something about Vince's activities, going back all those years ago.....get a clue, people.
@kabedonovan55559 ай бұрын
Loving the Clemson shirt on Dutch
@robsmith82869 ай бұрын
Undertaker didnt know. Vince respected him too much to ever let him see that side of himself. This was a corporate tower thing, not on the road with the boys.
@TheSvartdemon9 ай бұрын
this was a golden question and much needed video, The taker is the biggest WWE superstar and closest to Vince. I bet he knows alot.
@Tc-ce3lk9 ай бұрын
Taker is a company yes man for Vince
@philm22179 ай бұрын
100%
@paulwinstanley9049 ай бұрын
Company man, yes. Yes man, absolutely not
@winnieblue96269 ай бұрын
you misspelt Cena
@ymca45479 ай бұрын
Arrest him? What do you want?
@Superpig5009 ай бұрын
@@ymca4547 I would want that and all his matches erased
@kiezersosay499 ай бұрын
Man i thought about this shortly after I found out about it. Taker and vince were very, very close. If you know how close they were then you just can't help, but get to thinking...
@Mykamania9 ай бұрын
Undertaker burys the evidence.
@lokilorenzini9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@farendor47809 ай бұрын
"you know he had a stroke" you gotta love Dutch
@jwil4259 ай бұрын
He 100% knew or turned a blind eye. He was the boss backstage and in the locker room for decades!
@OzzyOscy9 ай бұрын
He was a veteran in a locker room, so he knew the executive was raping women in his Connecticut office?
@felixfunhouse14148 ай бұрын
The stroke comment was epic!!!! Very good!
@darknightbegins858 ай бұрын
Tough to believe the senior leadership, staff and talent, didn’t know Vince was fucking the help from time to time
@HilltopZombieShop9 ай бұрын
Taker found Jesus, and Jesus says to forgive others.
@mox193808 ай бұрын
i think people have to keep in mind that Vince has literally made the careers of people like Taker, HHH, the Rock, Austin, Kevin Nash, etc, etc. So we shouldn't expect and/or be surprised if they try their best to gently defend or simply not address the allegations
@tonyslicer73999 ай бұрын
Here we go starting things that nobody knows let put everyone under the bus now right who worked with Vince so everyone is guilty
@ezstreete9 ай бұрын
And his fans!!!
@Uuusssaaas9 ай бұрын
Why did the Undertaker's wife retire immediately when they got involved with each other? He removed her immediately from Vince's control. I called it years ago. There was no other reason for her to retire when she did.
@ymca45479 ай бұрын
@@Uuusssaaas perhaps she wanted to retire to have kids? She wasn't exactly 25 years old either. You wouldn't know this stuff or consider it because you've never been with a woman.
@Uuusssaaas9 ай бұрын
@@ymca4547 I was probably married before you were born, incel. In the new century, women don't give up careers where they are breaking a glass ceiling after merely getting engaged. She was on the precipice of being the top woman in the company, and she suddenly retired to be unemployed, unmarried, not pregnant, under 30, with a man whose private life caused her to live in obscurity without actually being married. That doesn't happen unless there is a reason. Anyone who wasn't blind realized that the Undertaker removed her from the control of Vince. Women don't do what she did unless there is a reason. You would know that if you ever talked to a woman in the past 30 years.
@CheapHeatProductionsPodcast9 ай бұрын
He knows everything
@ericgilbert569 ай бұрын
How well do you know your best friends sex life? Would you know the sorted details?
@dixondaqua9 ай бұрын
Why do people act like taker didn’t know dude he did that’s his boy
@randolphdefreese78749 ай бұрын
What did the janitor know?this is about Vince and John.stop making these vids for clicks.
@KingKayfabe9 ай бұрын
Too late you clicked, you watched and you enjoyed it. Stay mad 😂
@randolphdefreese78749 ай бұрын
no i didnt.you can comment without watching the video.@@KingKayfabe
@KingKayfabe9 ай бұрын
@@randolphdefreese7874 Another watch dude...it's slowly becoming an obsession. Keep lying to the internet though you fit in LOL
@barbaraerlinger2175 ай бұрын
I have had the feeling for literally 15 years! Every single time I think of Mark Calaway (Undertaker), I think he knows of EVERY SINGLE THING Vince McMahon has ever done! He is the keeper of Vince's darkest secrets! He is the Right Hand Man of VKM.
@thesupervisor32709 ай бұрын
Stop trying to bring other ppl into this BS. Ppl act they are so holy and haven’t done fucked up shit in their life. Do u know everything your friends and family does?
@victoryrush95849 ай бұрын
I agree. People are trying to drag others into this just to create drama and ruin their lives. Vince McMahon and John Laurinitis are the ones who are mentioned in the lawsuit and they are the ones that should be held accountable. Being a friend of Vince McMahons or knowing Vince in general is not a crime.
@colonel-h2b9 ай бұрын
I hope The Undertaker doesn’t say a damn thing about Vince. He’s not involved, he doesn’t have to say shit.
@venomnbk33269 ай бұрын
At this point I would not be surprised if the marks accused Bigfoot, Santa Claus, and The Loch Ness monster of being involved.
@ymca45479 ай бұрын
And lets not forget 'The Man Upstairs' God once worked for Vince, faced off in a tag match. He must know something too.
@EliasRoy8 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t be surprised
@NathanTG9 ай бұрын
Sigh.. so the question has been asked. This was the first thing I thought off when I saw the Vince accusations. Undertaker and Vince were/are extremely close. That recent meme of Vince getting choked up in an interview is him literally talking about how close he is to Undertaker. There's sadly no doubt in my mind that Mark knew something... unfortunately. Maybe if not the Grant situation, but certainly other situations backstage. Brock and Undertaker were pretty tight too, so... yeah man, I'm not saying yes or no, but that uncertainty in my opinion is kinda because I'm afraid to know the truth... which is pretty telling of what I actually think.
@IronDiva9 ай бұрын
Everyone calling for Bruce’s head can apply the same logic to Taker….or are they too much of a fanboy?
@adamwatson69169 ай бұрын
I love how we are condemning eveyone in WWE with zero evidence . Everyone wants to crucify Bruce becuase Cauliflower ears Rhonda Lousey made a tweet
@thesupervisor32709 ай бұрын
HHH and HBK too but y’all not ready for that conversation
@SupDave8 ай бұрын
he had a stroke... Damn Dutch lol
@mellowpepper47849 ай бұрын
The Undertaker will take this to the grave. Haha see what i did there?
@dennyringas49279 ай бұрын
It's possible undertaker knew something but what about Bruce Prichard Vince's right hand man?