Woke Medicine

America has a shortage of doctors. It’s one reason why health care costs so much. Yet the AMA, the biggest doctor’s association, is focused on telling doctors to use Marxist language.
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The AMA now tells doctors to use woke language.
Instead of saying equality, say “equity.”
Don’t say minority, say “historically marginalized.”
“Can you imagine anyone actually doing this?” says journalist Matthew Yglesias. “What would happen if you were in a clinical setting and somebody starts giving you this lecture about landowners?”
Silly language is one thing.
But the AMA also makes it harder for people to become doctors, and lobbies for rules that reduce the number of doctors.
“They restrict what kinds of people can provide medical services,” Yglesias tells me.
It’s a reason America has fewer doctors than any European country.
I’ll show you how the AMA acts like a doctor cartel.

[@PunksloveTrumpys]

"Individualism is problematic." That is the most frightening statement I've ever seen in any form of official/government documentation.

[@TugHillGuy]

Straight out of communist and/or fascist philosophy.

[@senseofmindshow]

"Oh, no, but that's not REALLY what they're saying. What they're saying is, uh, hmm... Well... hmm. I don't know. Marginalized populations, and such?" So goes the non-explanation designed to obscure what, in reality, they say and believe unequivocally.

[@jamesfitzgerald1684]

You hear it at institutions of higher education all the time.

[@btsnake]

Absolutely, I mean where do you even start with someone who's happy saying something like that? That is the hallmark of a totally backward moral compass

[@Thunderfang777]

I didn't think they would be so honest about their intentions. Usually, they try to hide such blatantly controversial messages behind a word salad.

[@johnc3094]

I retired 12 months ago, 60 years after finishing medical school. I don’t need the AMA to tell me that all human beings share the same pain and grief, regardless of race. The bureaucrats at the AMA have never sat up all night in the ICU trying to keep a patient alive or battled uncontrollable bleeding in the OR. They have never had to go the waiting room and tell a family their loved one has incurable cancer. The grief is the same among all races, I can assure you. The AMA should concentrate on assuring quality medical practice and leave the woke nonsense to the politicians. And, John, scrap the beard...

[@CBMMmercinary]

You have the gravitas of experience. Use it to pull the AMAs head out of their ass. A short lecture at a conference or meeting of your former colleagues has great potential to right the ship.

[@paulwalkersseatbelt2539]

But… I like the beard!

[@rhandley1000]

you are right....the beard is not working

[@motorcitymanman7711]

Go into politics John C save the country!

[@Y.M...]

The beard is FANTASTIC.

[@isher__]

AMA: "Poor people can't get medical care." Us: "Then let more people practice medicine at lower rates." AMA: "No."

[@cortneyrens]

Lol, true, it’s is so fake, they just choose the most politically correct thing to say in the moment it seems. And at the clinic I work at (Family Practice and Addiction clinic in one of the most low income areas in my city) the poor, non working people (by choice, it’s a way of life to have a kid at age 13 on up, and get welfare, WIC, Quest cards, and Medicaid of course) have the Best medical care, all appointments, specialists, brand name medication including otc ones like Tylenol, are all FREE, and those with private insurance from their employer (including myself and other nurses) struggle to pay the co-pays, our deductible starts at $2,000, specialists are sometimes not in network, with no md in that field in network! So we barely even go to the MD , because it costs so much! Being poor and choosing not to work is the best thing you can do to get good, free medical care, sadly

[@BehavingBradly]

The AMA's solution is to stop calling them "poor people"

[@Cindy75K]

Change the food guidelines and those "poor people" won't need medical care as much. Why is no one talking about how (junk) food corporations have their hand in healthcare? Doctors (whose hands are tied by the hospital district they're associated with) promoting killer diets and prescription meds are hurting everyone and making the food industry and pharmaceutical companies money. High carbs, seed oils and sugar, plant base franken foods are the culprits behind obesity, diabetes, cancer and poor health outcomes.

[@GunMeat]

This is how communism works!

[@brianlacroix822]

you clearly have zero clue what the AMA is and what they do.

[@KAZVorpal]

Each doctor spends TWO THIRDS OF HIS TIME on paperwork that ultimately is mandated by the state. That means that, in a free market, we'd have effectively three times as many doctors, even while having the same number.

[@johngrey1074]

I mean, documentation is important, though.

[@KAZVorpal]

@@johngrey1074 That's sarcasm, right?

[@Zebra_3]

lots of paperwork for the blood sucking private insurers.

[@johngrey1074]

@@KAZVorpal No. You think doctors shouldn't have to record what they're doing? They should just have free reign and not have to answer to anybody as far as liability?

[@KAZVorpal]

@@johngrey1074 Our tort laws are a joke. Doctors absolutely should NOT have to be afraid that every little thing they do could mean they are liable. As with anyone else, sincere effort is sufficient. Whatever their other contributions to society, lawyers could be an important source of protein.

[@johnwarring2337]

I remember being like a 13 yr old, and watching Stossel on 20/20. He was the only reason I watched. I loved his segments. I'm super happy he's still doing stories. And how has he not aged in 20yrs???

[@MisterCrookedNose]

Same here. Been watching him since I was a kid. He’s a treasure

[@ivanrandallorndorffjr.412]

Same here.

[@hearttoheart4me]

He is a good journalist but lets try to focus on what he is bringing to light. That is and what makes him a good journalist.

[@MisterCrookedNose]

@hearttoheart4me I can do both at once. Thanks

[@danbob1650]

More like 35+ yrs

[@jonathanwhite3507]

"Individualism is problematic..." sums up why we should fight against this kind of group think.

[@nutbastard]

My gun is loaded. Just tell me who to shoot.

[@juniorvonclaire3576]

There’s a simple fact which has become more prevalent today: SOME PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO COMPETE. They defend each other and attack current and potential competition. Watch for it! 👀

[@bludeuce3855]

if they call my beliefs of individualism and rights "Wrongthink" ill kill them

[@septembersurprise5178]

"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries of life disappear and life stands explained." Mark Twain.

[@artzreal]

and they're right (without knowing how), because they are, as you do, confusing individualism with individuality, and the first is what's making people go apart from each other, like "each one for themselves". not good

[@jenniferboush4631]

This is the #1 reason I am currently applying to veterinary school. I have worked in human medicine for 20 years and am married to an M.D., but I was absolutely disgusted when I toured and looked at med schools. NOT ONE could tell me about their curriculum, but spent endless energy to advertise how inclusive and full of virtue signaling their school was. No thank you. Sad.

[@gregoryhall3156]

Exactly-if you look at the websites of Medical Schools in US I think you will find nearly all if not all (certainly all state operated schools) of them have “diversity and equity” officers often with an appointed “Associate Dean for Equity and Inclusion” or some similar title-and odds are the head of the entire University campus at these academic Medical centers will be a physician with dual credentials in both Medicine and an MBA to boot with title of Chancellor or President. And at least for last 10-15 years, most of them got there positions based on their political skills and administrative savvy as well as their ability to genuflex to leftist wokeism thought. There are politics in every hospital both private and public-but at academic medical centers you have the added layer of left leaning academic political goals and woke activism to complicate things further and change priorities and focus, often at the cost of tolerating operational inefficiencies for academic and political correctness and the usual wasteful govt spending that goes along with and is inherent in any big government operation. This is true in all of the 50 states-both red and blue. Conservative state legislatures need to pay more heed to how academic leaders are appointed not only at state universities but also state funded academic medical centers and weed out the lefties currently leading most of these higher learning centers and reestablish some common sense management and protection of free speech and equal opportunity features and eliminate the marxist “equity” initiatives-otherwise, the dumbing down of American education will not only continue at US Colleges and Universities, but also at our Medical and Allied Health schools.

[@sporksoffury]

I have, for 30 years, told my vet that I wish she could see me along with my dogs. Even with the pandemic shortages, struggles and their massive backlog, they still provide far better care for my dogs than most of my physicians.

[@caleymckibbin2304]

In Canada you would have trouble even getting into medical school for being white.

[@anthonyblacksher5516]

If we can't afford to feed our children, how is a vet any better. I'm 3 grand deep in my dogs end of time in 2 weeks. I paid it. But most can't. Think twice on your career decisions

[@jenniferboush4631]

@@anthonyblacksher5516 I have spent YEARS over this career decision, and I value the ability to still have a private practice in which I control my prices and schedules. I want to practice on large animals which is in very high demand and is often a key role in people's livelihoods. I do not care to have insurance companies telling me what I can or cannot do nor do I care to sell my soul to a corporation. I have far more insight and experience in both paths of medicine, and I have chosen the one that will help me and my neighbors the best. Thank you.

[@schmerz6604]

The "education creep" of many medical professions is concerning. From med-techs to physicians, the timeline to earn your certification has continued to increase. There has to be a more efficient way to train professionals in these fields.

[@danielbush6882]

Yeah, stop requiring BS courses as part of getting degrees.

[@jrunner5k]

I think the associate degree is the right amount for many medical jobs. there is a push for paramedics to go from certificate to associate in science. Dental hygienists, radiology techs, RNs, vet tech (?), physical therapy assistant, and many others are these focused 2 year degrees

[@StreetcarHammock]

Physician training has been consistent in its strength and rigor for a long time now.

[@walterdennisclark]

"Getting really obsessed with language politics is a good way to position themselves as the good guys without addressing their own role in creating these problems" --Matthew Yglesias

[@TheRishijoesanu]

Yglesias is actually a center-left progressive

[@cco53587]

@@TheRishijoesanu They probably know as good as anyone that when there's woke pandering going on, it's cover for something. Those AMA documents reeked to high heaven of that nonsense. People like Yglesias and Stossel getting together on pieces like this are what they're afraid of.

[@KeithStrang]

Really damn good point.

[@wrongthinker843]

@@TheRishijoesanu The "purity spiral" goes on to infinity.

[@jt708083]

It's called Marxism. Why can't Stossel say the M word?

[@information_handle]

Says "Economically illiterate" and immediately puts a picture of Bernie sanders 😂😂😂😂 Loved it!

[@miniDrew4]

I used to work for the AMA, and they are indeed as woke as you could imagine, thus why most doctors have left the organization.

[@Starks2510]

“Getting really obsessed with language politics is a good way to position themselves as the good guys without addressing their own roll in creating these problems.” Nailed it...

[@jlprest]

There is a reason only about 15% of US physicians belong to the AMA. They have not represented the needs of a majority of physicians for years.

[@techguy651]

Too bad they own the copyright on the CPT Codes used in insurance billing and fight relentlessly to collect licensing fees on all providers that use those codes (which is all of them that take insurance). Until we replace the CPT system for reimbursement, the AMA will continue to make money and survive.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

@@techguy651 The AMA published the codes, but there is nothing stopping anybody else from publishing their own set of codes. They just can't copy the AMA's codes.

[@roosatlgany7622]

Just like the American Bar Association. Same woke BS.

[@radonato]

Amen. Starting to make the ABA look like the GOP. GtFO of practice you godless beast.

[@Crusader1984]

Oh so not all of them have to be associated with that organization? Well that’s good news thanks for pointing that out I did not know that

[@RobinP556]

Just recently I was told by an optometrist that I should be in favor of gun control and banning guns. The only reason that guns came up was because my now aging eyes were having a harder time focusing on the front sight. She got quite argumentative about it and even said that I obviously went to a white high school. I was raised in Blacksburg, Virginia, we only had 1 high school.

[@StarTrekGeek47]

That's absolutely idiotic. Leftist politics are kicking in every door and infecting every field now. I had doctor's in Minneapolis constantly ask if I owned guns during my physicals. Why the hell do they need to know? What the heck does that have to do with my bodily health?

[@johngalt97]

Deprive that person of your money. Professionals will not preach their opinions, unless solicited.

[@nicolenadia1]

Wow. I would have walked out of that office. Stop giving these leftist loonies your money.

[@robertsanders339]

There is a reason old guys have shotguns

[@31michelle64]

@@johngalt97 ❤

[@db6655]

This was eye-opening. In my area, I would say there's not so much a shortage of doctors but a shortage of doctors aren't drug pushers. In either case, I have realized the best way to take care of myself is to stay away from them as much as possible. Healthy eating, exercise, and praying I don't break anything. lol

[@pollypurree1834]

Exactly. I was warned about doctors by people born in the 18th century when I was a kid. I was born in 1957 so alot of those people were still around. They always said that doctors will kill you. Doctors were always seen as an absolute last resort by those people. If all else failed, then you have nothing to lose by trying a doctor. Those people even gave birth at home rather than in a hospital. Being born in a hospital was very rare, even in the 1930s and 40s. Doctors suddenly became "gods" to younger generations when penicillin was discovered in 1947. Most people prior to 1947 died from infections. Penicillin instantly increased the life expectancy from 42 to 78 in one evening. People stupidly attribute it to doctors rather than to penicillin.

[@marleymae6746]

Agree

[@StreetcarHammock]

@@pollypurree1834 I’d like some source for the silly claim that penicillin pushed life expectancy to 78 overnight. That’s as outlandish as it is false.

[@enigmavariations3809]

I'm a physician assistant. What you are saying makes perfect sense but the reality is that the great majority of patients simply will not exercise or eat healthy. Many patients cannot motivate themselves to even take a pill or apply a cream every day. Many patient expect a prescription.

[@jonathandewberry289]

20 years ago I can still vividly recall many grads we knew, many desperately trying to get into medical school. They had insane grades but were getting cut down by ever-increasing standards. Well now there is contrived scarcity. A-holes. I've said for a long time that the medical establishment has gone evil inside.

[@safewordiswhiskey]

As someone who has applied to medical school multiple times and has done everything to better my chances, thank you John Stossel for reporting this. Americans need to understand such questions like, "Why am I so far booked out for an appointment as a new patient?" or "Why are my medical bills so high?". The AMA is the biggest hurdle to students who want to become physicians as well as patients who are limited to accessing physicians. It is Supply and Demand, and the AMA knows this. If you could limit the amount of people trying to get into your specific line of work, what happens to your salary (hint: it goes way up). If you are a business owner and choose to limit future generations to compete against you, you become wealthy AND protected. The AMA limits the amount of new medical schools being built even if a state or private university has the funding for it. The AMA limits the amount of new medical students to protect the profession's extremely lucrative salaries. Fewer future doctors equals higher return for the small amount of physicians and surgeons. In short, the AMA is a racket and has lobbyists and consultants to make sure a large percentage of the American public has fewer choices. And to the pre-med students watching this, getting a few bad grades and marks on your science classes does not determine your worth. I know you are trying. A lot of the required coursework has very little to do with learning and applying medicine but the AMA wants to weed you out. You are doing the right thing if you want to help and improve people's lives. It is the AMA that wants you to get score in the 90th percentile for an admission's test that does not reflect your potential in medicine. And to the few accepted or current medical students that think this comment is just bitter because I didn't get accepted into medical school, you are correct. You may have passed the first hurdle of acceptance into medical school but residency is just as terrible, why? Because of the AMA. The AMA purposefully limits residency positions, limits your pay even though you're pulling a solid 80-100 hours (or more) in the hospital (still making around the 50-60k range all while being yelled at by your attending), and adds superfluous requirements and certifications that you pay for out of pocket, just to go to where? You guessed it, the AMA. They don't care about you either.

[@Yahuah777]

3rd year student here. Definitely agree. Great post. Opening new medical schools and not starting new residency programs is criminal.

[@Scottporco]

It's like that with a lot of fields. All the bullshit math courses you are forced to take and you never use 95% of it i.e. Engineering... It makes you think of all the kids being labelled ADHD/ADD just to discourage them from a young age to achieve their potential.

[@StarTrekGeek47]

So many of these labor unions need to be reviewed and destroyed. It seems to be the case that fewer of them are protecting employees of their industry and fighting the employers, and instead are just protecting the senior employees of the industry and fighting the junior employees.

[@docholliday4546]

What kills me is all the complaining about the Canadian System and the wait times... I've seen ppl wait longer here in the U.S. then in Canada for the same procedure!

[@northernlightsrenovations1710]

Supply and demand economics 101..... and they are definitely controlling the supply! My nephew, a Canadian, studied in the Caribbean and ended up working as a physician in Washington state. There is a pathway, but it's challenging from what I understand. My daughter is just crossing her final hurdles as an oncologist after 13 years. Tough slog for sure, and tremendously expensive! I don't begrudge them their salaries but I know of one Pathologist who is working 4-5 hours a day and collecting $400K, PLUS I understand that she is a prof. at the local university getting ANOTHER $400K. To me that's just obscene.

[@ajparker914]

"getting really obsessed with language politics is a good way to position themselves as the good guys without addressing their own role in creating these problems" this really sums up life in the present day

[@brianlacroix822]

getting obsessed over people obsessing over language politics is the 2022 version of republicans shtting bricks in the 80s at larry flint and other pornographers minding their business.

[@anthonywilliams7052]

But now the left wants free speech gone! So no more Civil Rights, Women's Rights, Workers' Rights, LGBTQ Rights, and all the others that wouldn't exist without free speech.

[@MultiEviscerator]

Indeed

[@fountbrooks2997]

🎯

[@ralphpeiris5996]

Pay physicians instead of letting corporate America get richer please!!

[@carriewitte5937]

I am a retired pediatric RN and was able to educate new moms regarding breastfeeding and feeding questions. I also gave encouragement in relation to their new role as a mom. Nursing is a wonderful profession, we spend more time with the patient and parent in my case, and answer questions about the advice given by the doctor so they understand because they think if they question the doctor they will look ignorant. BTW, I was educated in real science and are deeply disappointed on how the medical profession are avoiding the truth regarding natural immunity, herd immunity and the jabs adverse reactions. Let's go Brandon 😜

[@BMIutah]

as a physician this is sooo true, its part of the reason i am not a member of the AMA

[@jt708083]

The dialectic they are using is called Marxism. Why can't anyone including Stossel say the M word? I strongly suspect demonic repression of the intellect in nearly everybody.

[@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916]

@Space Police 0:50 He literally fucking does. Are you cognitively deficient or do you just not listen as a general rule?

[@LDuke-pc7kq]

AMA is a joke... they don't honor their own human rights/ Hippocratic Oath anymore. I watched them do Nothing as Millions of our country's most disabled, chronically ill and disabled veterans were abandoned by physicians, forced tapered off of medication , stigmatized and committing suicide after the CDC allowed literal Suboxone and big rehab proffers write non science, non medically based policy with the MME 'guidelines'. Instead of addressing it or listening to they're published seasoned positions in those fields, they punish them it allowed many to have their lives destroyed for honoring the human rights palliative care patients and practicing standard of Care Medicine! Let's also not talk about the suicide of our physicians that are now at record numbers...no no, why would the AMA ever do there Real job. I'm so grateful I didn't become a doctor at this point, but there is no pleasure in watching it's founding ethics be destroyed, many times for the sake of money

[@Liberty4Ever]

@@LDuke-pc7kq - What you described sounds horrible but is a drop in the bucket compared to physicians mindlessly and gutlessly caving in to guidelines from authoritarians that prevented them from treating COVID patients, which led to the needless deaths of HALF A MILLION AMERICANS in the last two years. It was a violation of their Hippocratic oath, but it was also a crime against humanity.

[@docequis9796]

Physicians receive the same reimbursement since 2005 (at best and some receive less). What industry has workers that haven't had a raise since 2005? Add to that the fact that physicians are now a) transcribers (required to have typed notes), b) coders (required to assign ICD-10 codes and EM codes), c) pharmacists (required to prescribe by NDC, d) drug abuse detection agents (required to screen patients for diversion), and now e) cultural and socioeconomic woke political pawns.... but allowing unqualified individuals into the industry is a bad idea.... healthcare in Mexico, South America, Asia, Africa and eastern Europe is substandard at best. Allowing pharmacists or RNs to practice is not ideal. NP's have additional training and are reasonable for certain things. I spend hours a week telling pharmacists and nurses who are about to do something wrong... no! There would be no shortage if the current physicians were able to see more patients with less red tape and less ancillary work (only some listed above).

[@valorensaxon6782]

John Stossel: “Even Economic illiterate people notice” Kue: Bernie Sanders talking about shortage of doctors 😂😂😂 I see what you did there, love it.

[@sdlausen1]

I was about to post this comment. Brilliant editing!

[@joshusavage5100]

Well you have to admit that when Bernie Sanders calls for Medicare for all but the bill not covering anything about increasing the number of doctors or other medical professionals that can treat patients. For the M4A to work they will need to increase the number of physicians by 4 times of what we have now.

[@Rational863]

3:33

[@KalonOrdona2]

cue* :)

[@gabrielbarrantes6946]

Nice

[@phil20_20]

My doctor just prescribed me a bronchial inhaler for nasal congestion. It's also used for treating a runny nose, but in a different delivery system. Imagine the congestion that would have caused! AMA is nothing more than a guild that's there to protect doctors.

[@alsaunders7805]

I read somewhere years ago that the AMA wanted Drs to put a line on the questionnaire you fill out in their office asking if there was a gun in the home of the patient. They considered gun ownership to be a public health issue to be addressed by Dr's. I personally have never seen it but I also live in a very conservative state. 🤓🍻

[@gondalfthewizard]

"Even the economically illeterate notice" Cuts to Bernie Stossel bringing the burns like it's California in the summer

[@jonathantrego]

Where does somebody even get a doctor that has time to talk about neighborhoods, history, and communities? I am lucky if I see the doctor for 20 seconds while he signs off on the annual paperwork and blurts out the standard "keep up with diet and exercise, we'll mail you the lab results".... Are there really Doctors that start having random conversations with patients about historic issues and property rights? I would be impressed because he would have to be in the room for than a few seconds lol....

[@VariantAEC]

God I hope that doctors would talk about something more prescient, like in my case... why my discs are degenerating at such a young age!

[@davidcox3076]

@@VariantAEC Well, you have to understand. Fighting systemic racism is far more important than any minor back problems a patient may be experiencing. Doctors must have their priorities straight.

[@s0nnyburnett]

Exactly, drive by doctors on their way out the door headed to the fairway.

[@1bluensx]

I’m a doctor, answering your question. You don’t, only in the public health, university based world. Some moron doc who is clueless about real medicine and charting, a doctor who has some cushy government (federal or state) protected research job and is not seeing 40+ patients a day. We don’t even really get the education to speak of these things, and why should we? We practice medicine, we’re not social workers, and social workers can’t do surgery. So it should stay that way. When you want a good doctor, you want one that is competent in his/her field and what they are treating you for. I was recently snubbed by a transgender heroin addicted patient that snubbed me for not knowing the gender pronouns for the transgenders. I was treating that patient for addiction. What is most important here?

[@jonathantrego]

Thank you for the response, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of Doctor are you? I am only curious because treating transgender people for addiction seems like it would be a very niche field (unless it is broadly addiction and this patient just happened to be trans). Some type of Psychiatrist? Because to be slightly fair, I can understand Psychiatrists who actually do their own therapy (I know even that is rare now) as needing to be a bit more tuned into social and cultural issues purely by the interpersonal nature of their work requiring connections. But, overall I agree with your point.

[@JacksonHighlander]

I just want Texit. I just want government to go away for 95+% of the things it does. I am hateful, resentful, and despise them.

[@davidkulmaczewski4911]

I haven't seen a true "doctor" in years.... every office visit I've been to since before COVID was strictly with a physician's assistant. I've never even *seen* the doctor in my primary care office, and I've been going there for over five years.

[@chilidogcowboy]

I earned a few stitches last year and the minute-clinic doc tried to lecture me on why I should take the d-tap shot when I asked for the “old school tetanus shot”. They just stood there (the doc and the shot girl) trying to convince me about d-tap. I laid there in the bed and wondered if I was going to have to get up and stitch and jab myself while they yammered on...in the end they supposedly gave me the old school shot per my request but charged my medishare (not insurance) company double the street price of the cash quote as well as charging for the d-tap. Nasty dirty and corrupt.

[@pavelow235]

lol you got the tdap shot, you'd didn't know the diffence, they played you.

[@Johnrider1234]

To bad you didn’t know that. Oxygen. Does not allow for tetanus. If it bleeds good. Your fine. They will never tell you that either. And some countries have said. The shot is good for 20 years.

[@chilidogcowboy]

@@Johnrider1234 oh man I ‘bled good’ ... the medic had to follow my little trial of blood through the warehouse to find me... anyhow, it seems to me that the minute clinic was making an extra buck in the side by charging for dtap when it only administered the old school tetanus shot. My medishare group got stuck with a $700 bill whereas the cash-on-the-sport stitch fee was not to exceed $300. They treat the medishare group like it’s an insurance company and that charge then got passed back to me (I paid 50% of the $700 and medishare spread the other 50% across the members). Also: the nurse pre-opened the dtap and stood over me with the needle as I re-iterated “I don’t know anything about this dtap and I don’t want it put into me”. Then she says: “so you want me to discard this opened shot and waste it?” “Yes” I says. I almost felt guilty save that I smelled something funky afoot.

[@waltermh111]

@@chilidogcowboy Yeah, these last 2 years exposed to more than ever how corrupt the medical industry is and how evil so many doctors are. How ideological too. We have a cultural problem in the USA more than anything. You can see part of the cultural infestation in this video by what the AMA is pushing. This is taught in universities almost everywhere now :(

[@markbaranyk9161]

What is d-tap?

[@cindylouwho620]

If my doctor starts talking that crap to my family and I, I will be done with that doctor.

[@PDBreske]

While I'd applaud you for it, the video points out that you would have a hard time finding a replacement for your doctor due to the AMA's influence and the organization's limits on who can practice where and how many of them can be in a certain field. You may be done with THAT doctor, but finding another will (probably) be difficult. My aging parents hate their doctor, but they are stuck with him as none of the other doctors in this town are accepting new patients.

[@TreDogOfficial]

Thank you John Stossel! I've had this on my mind for many years. People cannot talk trash about private health care until they grapple with the regulatory hurdles.

[@jachmd]

The practice of medicine in the US is making me sick. That's why I'm applying to practice abroad.

[@DirtyWopBastard]

I got a medical bill for $41,000. I asked for an itemized bill. They sent me the itemized bill... it's $13,000

[@Blue-hf7xt]

I did a temp job in medical billing… it’s insane

[@maria1125]

But the inflated medical bills cover the undocumented refugees and immigrants without insurance. The hospital has to make ends meet so they charge the self respecting hard working legit citizens to cover the costs. It's what the American people wanted by voting blue...voting Biden, Obama, blue in local elections etc.

[@zg-it]

I'm an IT consultant, one of my biggest fears is that the government or some trade group gets involved in my business.

[@codeman99-dev]

Uncle Bob gave such a warning long ago. Good chance he's correct.

[@Walt2323]

Too late bro

[@zg-it]

@@Walt2323 I don't have to get a government license in order to work on my clients computers.

[@blackstar_1069]

Wasnt master slave an Issue Recently? Dats how it begins

[@glynnetolar4423]

Yet, Texas, for examplw, wanted those who work on computers and recover files. You have to have a detectives license. A what? Oh, and that will cost you and be hard to get. That's a trade group looking for new income!

[@BenjiPOTF]

I have known about the limit in doctors per year imposed in the USA since 2010 when I was trying to educate myself about my injuries and was trying to get to the bottom of why doctors in the USA dont even bother trying to help the patient.

[@davidlelyukh3690]

Bro he said “Economically illiterate” so nonchalantly 😂😂😂😂 I love Stossel

[@jasonanderson_PA]

"...economically illiterate people (cuts to a Bernie clip)..." I love it.

[@Rational863]

3:33

[@juniorvonclaire3576]

There’s a simple fact which has become more prevalent today: SOME PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO COMPETE. They defend each other and attack current and potential competition. Watch for it! 👀

[@gabemondry]

Med student here. Less than 1/4 of doctors join the AMA. We all know it’s a joke, and the folks who go to these conventions aren’t the ones practicing.

[@maria1125]

Good.

[@jphilh123]

Exactly. They don’t speak for the majority of physicians in this country. Most of them are as sick of the nonsense as anyone else.

[@pavelow235]

interesting, I'd like to be your first paying patient.

[@Steel-Pinnings]

That is a breath of fresh air for sure. However the AMA is fundamental in creating rules and regulations that affect all Dr.s so join or not they still have that impact.

[@gabemondry]

@@pavelow235 hit me up in July of 2023! In all seriousness, I pray you won’t be needing my services because I’m applying for anesthesiology.

[@pmscalisi]

Imagine going in to a doctor’s office for something like cancer and getting a lecture about your racism because you own a house.

[@thomasrobinson182]

You'll probably have to sell your house to pay for your treatment.

[@TrueEnergizerBunnies]

I'm pregnant with a history of epilepsy. They weren't all that helpful with my pregnancy or my epilepsy but they did give me a massive lecture about getting the COVID Vax. . .and only my next 3 visits that's all they talked about. . .

[@rickwrites2612]

that was literally the best most immediate thing they could do to protect you and your baby you stupid cow

[@williambilyeu9801]

Ask them if they know an intelligent doctor that they could refer you to that doesn't talk about stupid things. I do not have this "politically correct" problem.

[@pmscalisi]

Houses and lawns are racist 🙄 Especially if you’re “white”

[@Noah_E]

A couple years ago I had a doctor ask if there were fire arms in my household when I went in for a few stitches for a wound that was clearly not caused by a gun. How is that relevant to healthcare in ANY way unless I am there with a bullet wound? At that point I stopped answering there questions. A needed stitches again a few months ago and applied butterfly stitches myself instead of dealing with that nonsense. FYI - I'm not accident prone. I own a tree farm and co-own a saw mill. I still have 19.5/20 digits after thirty years working around sharp edged blades, saws and other equipment on a regular basis. Cuts are just a part of life in the industry.

[@Zachary-Daiquiri]

Doctors" "How is this going to help us practice medicine?" AMA: "Medicine?"

[@rowdyrx6109]

Most physicians did not practice medicine during the pandemic. It was see the symptoms,go home until you have trouble breathing then die in the hospital. They could have saved thousands of lives with cheap,generic effective drugs such as hydroxychloroquine,azithromycin,zinc combo at the first sign of symptoms!

[@sc100ott]

The AMA was becoming ridiculously woke before “woke” was a thing. I canceled my membership in 2005. It is absolutely horrid now. Also certifying new medical schools now is too little, too late. Covid tested healthcare capacity severely, but now that it’s fading, everyone forgets that the Baby Boomers are getting older and sicker every day, and there are not enough doctors to care for them all. The health care system is increasingly under stress even without a pandemic. Thanks, AMA. 😪

[@jt708083]

It's called Marxism. Why can't Stossel say the M word.

[@surmanator89]

Pharmacists will pick up some of the slack, still can't diagnose (they're ok with that!) So they'll likely keep partnering with DOs and NPs.

[@aidenaune7008]

@@jt708083 because its not just an apple, it is a fruit salad. authoritarian governments can mix, giving you a jumble of stuff that is hard to name.

[@dawnclabaugh3598]

I'm going to stay as healthy as I can and no thanks, I DON'T want most medical interventions. I've met a few good doctors; they're the ones who don't (pretend to) know everything but remain curious and active in questioning/learning. The way it's being done these days - medical industry - they (the corporates) are turning physicians into factory workers, more or less.

[@alsaunders7805]

@@dawnclabaugh3598 I go with my mother to her chemo appt every other week. It's set up like an assembly line in a factory. Her Dr's are great but our contact with them is maybe 5 minutes of the approximately 3 hours we are there. 😢🍻

[@tysonwallace576]

"Hi Doc, there is something wrong with my tonsils..." Doc replies " Decisions by land owners and large corporations, limit prospects for good health...' 'Thanks Doc, I'm all better now!'

[@arnoldpaine6143]

Something like this happened back in the 80s when pediatricians started talking to parents during checkups about gun ownership. My son's doctor got in an argument with me about the firearms I owned and that I shouldn't because I had 2 children. I found another pediatrician.

[@donm5354]

$200,000/year might sound like alot but a large chunk is eating up by student loans and malpractice insurance.

[@dreddiaz]

Thanks, John, for your segment. I’m a practicing physician with 25 years of experience. You are absolutely correct in your comments/thoughts/concerns. However, you should know that the AMA represents only a small segment of practicing physicians, most of which are in primary care practices. Their numbers are inflated because large systems “suggest” their member physicians remain members much like employees are “suggested” to remain unions. Finally, they focus on activism rather than representing physicians or patients.

[@brianlacroix822]

well primary care physicians are the backbone of us healthcare. also foreign physicians in mexico and canada are members of ama because their education is significantly better than the research in their home countries. ama isn't trying to inflate anything, they are a professional association and education is a big part of prof associations ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. back in the 80s republicans freaking out over obscenity and porn, now they freaking out over education.

[@johnpglackin345]

They need to cancel their membership.

[@Erin-dw9vx]

You are perfectly capable of doing something meaningful for yourself. Do you like to put your own interests in front of you, or the public's?

[@fountbrooks2997]

Your always ahead of the MSM..ALWAYS ! Watching you for more than 20 years now, Tucker is the only one even in the ballpark with you and even he has alot to learn when it comes to questioning. God bless you sir 🇺🇸

[@jeremytheimer7443]

That last statement is the perfect summary of being woke. To make yourself sound good without being good.

[@Phantom8589]

My Dad is an MD I was looking to going to Med school and my dad straight out told me do not go! He said that they were intentionally hiring based mostly off racial prefer and that the med board was very corrupt. They threat medical licenses when they don't like your political views. My dad retired and said do not go into the medical field.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

I am an MD and your dad was right to tell you not to go into medicine. There is no joy in it. I tried to stop my daughter, but she went anyway. Yesterday she complained to me, "Why do I have to do everything perfectly, all the time, and these other people [support personnel] just don't care?"

[@christianlibertarian5488]

@@hjkl4153 Definitely affirmative action, but not enough so that top students don't get admitted. It is the students on the margin of admission who are affected.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

@@hjkl4153 I don't know the answer to your question.

[@Phantom8589]

@@hjkl4153 Yes they have a points based system based on your heritage. You get no points for being Asian or White, You get some points for Hispanic, you get a the most points for being Native, pacific Islander, or Black. But yes they discriminate against Asian because they Asians are over represented in the Medical field. Search med school Racial prefer chart. They don't bother hiding it they are proud of it! The AMA is intentionally keeping qualified people out of medical careers to keep their paycheck higher and they act like that diversity is more important than patients lives.

[@The_Kirk_Lazarus]

Then just join a DO school and the AOA instead. I've got plenty of colleagues of all ethnicities and not one of them has found any issues with going into practice.

[@tugginalong]

It’s still amazes me that personal responsibility is never the issue for bad personal outcomes. Private practice doctors have a lot of overhead which includes malpractice insurance.

[@denisegaylord382]

Yes, the cost of opening and maintaining an independent practice is high, too high in my humble opinion. We as a society need to understand that life is a risk. Not everything can be 100% risk free. This is why I believe that we need to have some sort of caps on these malpractice judgements. To decrease the costs of insuring doctors and other care professionals. Suing should not be the knee jerk reaction. Personally responsibility has a role in how good or bad our health outcomes are. Not everything works out exactly as planned. Additionally many people refuse to seek out a second opinion. Some because of time, some because of money, some because of travel, some because they are lazy, some because they implicitly obey or trust their provider. But this notion that the patient is blameless 💯% of the time, and the doctor/health care provider is wrong 💯% of the time in every lawsuit is a fallacy. It's high time we learned to be more tolerant, compassionate, and forgiving of each other. And start looking at each other as what we all are: imperfect human beings.

[@lindipearson9633]

@@denisegaylord382 We definitely need caps on malpractice insurance and what people can Sue for. You shouldn't have to already be a millionaire to open a practice.

[@mrdean2539]

As a society, we have basically gotten rid of the idea of personal responsibility. We taught our children that everyone was special, we told teachers to not use words like fail or substandard because it would hurt feelings, we started demanding more and more 'help' from the government. We stopped making critical thinking a priority. Recently, I talked to a number of people in a poor neighborhood that were complaining about the lack of good food near or in their neighborhood. I let them ramble and give all sorts of excuses and then asked a simple question, "When it is available, do you buy the healthy stuff or the unhealthy?" Businesses go where the demand is and if the majority of the area eats garbage then that's what is going to be sold. Food deserts do not develop by themselves. People make them.

[@LordOfNihil]

insurance companies have way too much power over the health care industry. they are the ones who wrote obama care. crony capitalism meets government bureaucracy.

[@juniorvonclaire3576]

There’s a simple fact which has become more prevalent today: SOME PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO COMPETE. They defend each other and attack current and potential competition. Watch for it! 👀

[@jenniferjackson2767]

I am a registered nurse. Raised in a family of medical doctors and RNs. If I want to become a physician then I have to get accepted into medical school AND graduate and go from there. I'm a nurse and NOT A PHYSICIAN. I do not diagnose or treat. This AMA thing was a complete eye opener. I honestly didn't know about it.

[@troyh3628]

It's become clear that there really isn't anything that isn't some form of cartel anymore. Teachers, retail, insurance, telecommunications, electricity production, manufacturing, automotive, banking, doctors and this list goes on. You can likely trace the ownership and control of all of these things back to the same handful of people too.

[@waltermh111]

I believe AMA was also one of the people that convinced the government that there were too many doctors decades ago. Now it wasnt done directly, but they made it so expensive to become a doctor that the government started subsidizing part of it, and when the gov was convinced there were too many doctors it capped the subsidies which effectively capped residencies, capping future doctor amounts.

[@barbarahouk1983]

Let's start with 1847 and the winny azzed medical degreed doctors (paid to go to college for their degree) who complained to Congress the apprenticeship doctors "didn't have enough book learning". Yes, there were two classes of doctors and there are today. Physicians are those college/university Medical Doctorate (MD) and Doctors of Osteopatathy (DO) only. The Doctors of Osteopatathy SUED the government bureau America Medical Association (AMA), yeah not a doctors association but a government bureau with legal power. Americans do not know this fact. This bureau need to be closed as well as all the other regulatory agencies that are unconstitutional. I am MD educated by this bureau who does its job POORLY. I had to get better education. I had an international residency and met highly educated doctors who helped me out. AMA has one goal in 1847- ensure medical education is updated and available for training future doctors. You can see what it does.

[@docequis9796]

There is no shortage of physicians... there is too much regulation on our practices... we waste so much time on paperwork and coding, writing and transcribing our notes instead of helping people. And many of us quit or became administrators to deal with it. The shortage was a plan to make healthcare in the US scarce and less quality so that politicians could "save us" with more regulation.... cut over regulation and allow the qualified physicians to help.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

@@barbarahouk1983 The AMA is not a government bureau. It is an association of physicians, and not the majority of them. It does not do medial education. It is a lobbying group, no more, no less.

[@jt708083]

It's called Marxism. Why can't Stossel say the M word?

[@csmlouis]

The AMA and their cohort, the American Hospital Association, are the biggest reason why general practitional/family medicine declines so rapidly after the millennium. One side creates a shortage problem and another side crafts a solution. It is getting more costly to be certified MD and the only way is to specialize and work in a hospital/center owned by healthcare conglomerate where one climbs the residence to board certified pathway.

[@HaIsKuL]

Minority being changed to "historically marginalized" is all you need to know about their permanent victim status. Even in cities where "whites" are the minority, they can't be in any form oppressed, or at least is always less oppressed than all other groups.

[@shorton6707]

I have lived in Latin America for over 40 years and found the doctors to be very professional and competent. I have had several surgeries and various minor procedures. I currently live in Mexico and have high-quality health and dental care for a just price with professionals who attend to me on time and work, like all Mexicans, Monday through Saturday.

[@kens6293]

Unlike a trade uniion, this association is not mandatory. For a multitude of reasons including such BS as this language guide, I never joined the AMA and am happy to have my decision reaffirmed by this video. Thanks John.

[@pamelakrumvieda3153]

This scenario translates into vet services as well. Rising costs, shortage of vets, control that bans qualified folks in the community from providing routine services.

[@dorseykindler9544]

My dad was a country vet. His office was a little dated, but it seemed like over 90 percent of his patients’ needs could be attended to cheaply and effectively with that setup. Send the more complicated cases to Ohio State. Now days vet hospitals are outfitted like human hospitals. All that fancy stuff has to be paid for somehow. While people are effectively priced out of responsible pet ownership.

[@TGuard00014]

@@dorseykindler9544 I work in an office similar to the one you describe your dad having and it’s frustrating to hear the prices some clinics charge when you know things could be accomplished for much cheaper. But it’s also a very complicated situation. For one thing people love their pets more than they used to. Anyone calling a cat their “fur baby” in the 1960s or 70s would probably be carted off for an asylum. Now the vast majority of people describe their animals as their babies or kids. (This phenomena isn’t limited to cats and dogs either.). This means the stakes are higher. “Well we’ve done what we can do he’s going to recover in a kennel and I’m going to check on him a couple times through the night” used to be considered above and beyond. Now people expect 24/7 monitoring of their pets and that someone should be in the office, not just available on call, but actually in the office 24/7 for emergencies. Well if you have to pay a doctor to be in the clinic for 12 hours you have to pay them more than if they run in for 2 hours. People love their pets more and want to do more to save/help them and unfortunately that costs more money. I also think more people are acquiring multiple animals rather than just one at a time which makes everything harder to afford. One lady I know is on a fixed income, our average “sick pet” appointment costs between $75-100 for something like vomiting or diarrhea when no diagnostics are performed or something like a ear infection or urinary infection occurs and low level diagnostics are performed. So if you have one pet, even if you are poor $100 for your sick pet is pretty doable for most people. But this lady she has 6 dogs and 2 cats which means if two of her pets get sick she’s now looking at $200 a year and the more pets you have the more likely you are to have a pet with a health problem at any given minute. Our annual vaccines with exam are $40 so just to keep her animals “current” costs her $320. But she loves her pets and can’t stand to have one die without “trying everything”. She is going to die owing us money we will never get paid. The cost of a veterinary degree has skyrocketed, I drive a 15 year old car and rent and I will never pay off my student loans at my current job. Our vet nurses and receptionist who make incredible sacrifices and put up with incredible stress currently make about half what a new hire at McDonald’s makes. This makes it impossible to keep good staff who love their jobs very long because people have to feed their families and it’s just not worth it. The average new veterinary graduate makes $80,000 a year, I’ve been out for a decade and make $60,000. My take home after taxes is about $45,000. I don’t get employer provided health insurance, my benefits consist of a discount on products from the clinic and a quarter of a slaughtered 4H steer a year. I love my job, I love my community, but our business model is unsustainable. Our building was built in 1977 with no major upgrades and its literally falling apart. I don’t know how long I can afford to stay here, it’s pretty hard to justify being on call for 1/3 of a year and my current salary when if me moved to the next big city where the cost of living is cheaper I could easily make $90,000 with better benefits and no on call duties. I have no idea how you keep prices low enough for people to afford the care they want while also paying your staff enough to live decently and maintaining a halfway decent building.

[@mommalion7028]

@@TGuard00014 this is part of the reason I only go to dentists in bad neighborhoods. Once I made the mistake of going to a dentist in a new building. The mandatory initial exam involved all sorts of star trek gadgets and they refused to use my x-rays from my.last provider. The bill was like $600 for the exam where they didn't fix anything. The dentist in the black neighborhood next to the liquor shop charged me $60 for the same exam and did the exam and cleaning.

[@TheHarrie93]

Thank god the AMA is telling doctors should say, imagine a doctor who got education for years not knowing that to say. Compared to a doctor shortage, this is a huuuuge problem!

[@GranmaSam]

After Covid brought to light how crazy The AMA can be, I have started looking for only doctors that are NOT a part of their cult!

[@TheCrzyman0]

Thanks John for all your reporting! You’re fighting for us, a real consumer advocate! Cutting through all the BS!

[@neomacchio4692]

Having Crohn’s disease I can vouch for the misery that is navigating our medical industry. Supply and demand is way off. I almost always wait 45 minutes after the appointment time for the Dr to see me and have to schedule 3 mos out for an appointment. Love the Bernie poke! 🤣

[@christianlibertarian5488]

Waiting for appointments is almost always due to an emergency. If you want people to ignore you when you have an emergency because somebody who isn't sick is waiting, we can accommodate that.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

@Ya boi The doctor is the one responding to the emergency, wherever located.

[@BunE22]

A family member of mine is a doctor, she closed her practice after Obamacare passed and the red tape became more time consuming than seeing patients. She went into teaching medicine instead because she couldn’t treat patients the way she wanted.

[@jrunner5k]

My uncle and his fellow doctors were forced to sell their private family practice to the big hospital because of insurance costs. When he retired he had the greatest desire to continue being a doctor with christian based medical mission groups like red cross, remote area medical, baptists on a mission etc to provide free healthcare, but the government regs and the way our court system is forced him to give up his license because he couldn't afford insurance

[@Blomstrom]

Physician here. I stopped my AMA membership years ago bc they don’t fight for us.

[@faithf5846]

If a doctor wants to go into private practice they pay exuberant high cost for malpractice insurance That’s why many physicians join a hospital staffs We are losing private practice physicians in the US. This hurts all of us.

[@jaycab1986]

We have reached a new era of American history Stossel with a beard

[@MausOfTheHouse]

I don't like it.

[@pkendlers]

Whatever John wants is fine with me. Jordan Peterson is bearded too. I think it's a trend. ;) He looks like a cross between Jordan and Dennis Miller. :D

[@MausOfTheHouse]

@@pkendlers JP looks good with the beard

[@f1fan6735]

Once again, Stossel brings the facts and common sense!

[@puravida5683]

As an expat and resident in Central America, I enjoy universal healthcare for $40.00 a month. As a U.S. citizen abroad, I still signed up for Medicare at $170.00 a month, so I can maintain my military Tricare health benefit.

[@MOstix13]

This crap is out of control. It’s not about health. It’s about control. Let doctors be doctors.

[@iloveSUVs]

I am a doctor, and I approve this message.

[@jal305]

I am a surgeon, the AMA does not represent me. Please keep in mind a couple of key points that becoming a physician has a huge opportunity cost during your youth, and ultimately the medical system in the United States is not a free market in any way. The rules that govern Walmart and Target’s behavior don’t apply in a straightforward way. The corporatization of medicine is a result of the way government and insurance companies have structured healthcare delivery. Private practice physicians are disappearing from existence and have a shrinking opportunity to serve the needs of many thru the free market these days.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

Absolutely. The government has deliberately raised the cost of practice to force physicians into groups, or become employees.

[@TGuard00014]

Also the cost of undergraduate degrees and medical school are extremely high, doctors have to make enough money to pay those loans off. People like to think that only people with fluff degrees like gender studies are effected by the price of education but the effects are felt by everyone who pursues a degree and those costs will ultimately be paid by the consumer.

[@mxrmd5931]

When I was a medical student the school paid for my AMA membership. When I was a resident the program paid for my AAP membership. I refused to renew either as they were basically political organizations I did not agree with. I hoped that I could simply ignore them and do my job. Now the ABP and ABFP sent an email saying doctors could lose our license for providing COVID misinformation. Now the ABP has modules for educational credit on equity/inclusion which you can take in place of medical modules. While the article focuses on how political medical organizations are not neutral health advocates, the scarier issue is that the certifying agencies are now openly political as well.

[@dfry1912]

I remember reading your book, I think it was called break out the shovel. Same thing here, I use a nurse practitioner, been with her for 22 years. Wonderful lady. But I live in houston texas. We need more doctor's, especially in East Texas. Keep up the good work sir!

[@wreckedbmwguy9925]

I’m an NP and for my primary care, I see a PA! I think all of the above have potential to be great-and I think it’s great to let the consumer determine what works for them!

[@fidelperez4837]

Unions are a major part of the downfall of America. My doctor friends will even talk about how the AMA limits who can practice in each field. So even after getting your medical degree and residency, you still can't just go into the field you want. You have to be approved by the union.

[@goldengriffon]

Yet another reason I left the profession.

[@wesleymalutama3651]

The market need to be open.

[@Xamufam]

unions are not the problem, union+governments is, its corporatism another name for it is fascism

[@windrider65]

Don't forget about the role insurance company's play, making people and Dr's both to jump through hoops for treatment.

[@Mark-ex5yx]

Totally false statement.

[@robertcarver4295]

I worked for DEC, the second largest computer company in the 1980s. I had all the LCG accounts, large computer group, including Yale, SNET and others. Yale had a project that they started around 1981 that took all the knowledge of doctors in most of the medical fields. They programmed that into a mainframe, took them years. Once they had all that information in there, they tested doctors against the computer. It was called AI, artificial Intelligence, the first that I knew about. So the test had shocking results. The patient told the computer what was wrong, what they felt. The nurse added what she saw, like Arm missing, or hole in head. The doctor went ahead to diagnose the patient, usually ordering a slew of tests, cover your ass tests, they called them, costing a fortune. The computer did the same thing, but not as many, on average half as many. The computer arrived at the accurate diagnosis and the patient was treated sooner, so recovered better. But one thing was different, some patients were taking meds that hid the symptoms, some patients had multiple illnesses, and some had multiple illnesses and multiple meds they were already taking. The doctors got that right about 30% of the time, the computer found all that 100% of the time with the fewest tests. All that was needed was a competent nurse, and they suggested a doctor to review the results. Of course, the AMA had to review the research, they forced Yale to erase the years of programming, pretend it never happened. To this day, there is no AI program to diagnose patients accurately. Imagine rural computers, or phones to do that now. Imagine the cost of health care dropping down to 10% of what it is now. The AMA is killing people with that scandal, same as GM when they bribed all the cities to get rid of trollies and use stinky buses.

[@stevenscott2136]

I remember reading about that project -- always wondered why nothing had ever come of it.

[@smellybogger]

Supply and demand, price and supply curves. Imagine the laws of economics apply to doctors. Truly shocking. Keep supply low and drive prices high. Duh duh duh.

[@betawithbrett7068]

What would we do without John Stossel?

[@Post-MoMitch]

There are billboards all up and down the Wasatch Front in Utah saying, “My doctor is a physician. Is yours?” I’m pretty sure the ad is from the AMA. I’ve enjoyed PA’s, CNP and my wife had Nurse Widwives for her delivery. They’re usually way more personable and available than most MDs and DOs

[@jaklumen]

Yeah, I agree.. PAs and nurses get to be more hands on. However, I really have to give props to "foreign doctors"- my little family and I have had (and are still having) great experiences with Filipino and Persian family physicians, pediatricians, and psychiatrists.

[@eugenetseytlin3445]

The reason that your wife had a Nurse Midwives is that OBGYN doctor (if independent practitioner) should pay at least $200K/year liability insurance, just saying....

[@Jackoo]

One of the biggest problem is there isn’t enough residency program, that is literally the bottleneck of getting doctors. Doesn’t matter how many med schools you open, or how qualified physicians from abroad wants to practice in the states, if they don’t have enough residency program spots then all pointless. That, to me at least, seems to be the easiest place to tackle if we actually want more doctors.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

That is a function of the federal government, not the AMA. The govt. pays more to hospitals with residencies, per patient. So the govt. does not want more. Talk to your Congressman, but don't waste your time with the AMA.

[@jimda4910]

Sometime ago doctors started documenting personal comments about problem patience. That is what police do, get your ID so you can go in a database and the next time you talk to a cop he'll know you're a problem. I had a doctor do it to me 8 years ago and it follows me in my file. I'm already the bad guy before I even open my mouth.

[@ramonaking1029]

Excellent reporting John!

[@Nuggets_Of_Dino]

AMA restricts doctors for 2 decades. In 2022 they say its okay to have more doctors, so now we should celebrate them as the solution and not the problem

[@christianlibertarian5488]

AMA cannot, and has not, restricted doctors.

[@The10cmorgan]

We need John to go on Joe Rogan podcast. That would be amazing I could listen to John for hours

[@whozed]

John was on Steve Crowder, it was great!

[@The10cmorgan]

@@whozed nice I'll have to look for it on KZbin.

[@Vamavid]

Shortage of doctors? Increase the number of residency positions. Foreign doctors want to come. They pass the US licensing exams, but fail to get residency.

[@domwings4329]

Stossels team has the best researchers in the world. Best segments online. I often wish they were longer

[@AaronSmith-sx4ez]

Great video! Occupational licensing is the real reason the US medical system is so messed up. The education requirements are too broad, take too long and are too expensive. Why do you need a 4 year bachelors to get into med school? Why do you need to learn expensive/complicated surgery if you will be a psychiatrist? We need more specialized and efficient medical training. Divide surgeons (the most complicated skill) from non-surgeons. Let the public choose WHOEVER they want to get medical treatment. The government arrests people who provide medical treatment that aren't certified. They also threaten and do take away doctors licenses that don't followed centralized dogma (like prescribing IVM). Occupational licensing is so evil and causes so much damage, but few talk about it.

[@acctsys]

Because it concerns life, bodily function, and death, I'm OK with them reserving the term doctor to licensed professionals. But let others help others by selling medical care if they don't claim to be doctors, and it's a willing arrangement. No doubt, the licensing rules don't make sense, and that can be improved, but we can't count on them to do what's right. That's unless they face competition from unlicensed medical care providers.

[@juniorvonclaire3576]

There’s a simple fact which has become more prevalent today: SOME PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO COMPETE. They defend each other and attack current and potential competition. Watch for it! 👀

[@purfire572]

I'm just responding to clarify some things, not to argue your point of view. You don't learn Surgery in Med school, it's learned in residency. Medical school is broad because it has to be. Med students need at least some exposure to all the specialties because when they practice, they be working with patients who have undergone procedure/treatments by the other specialists. Your doctor (ranging from psychiatrists, PCP, dermatologist etc) still needs to know and understand, at some baseline level, what those said treatments are. Med students don't really choose their specialty until the 4th year of med school when they start to apply to the more specialized RESIDENCY programs; IE surgery, Neurology, Psychiatry, Family medicine, Orthopedics etc etc. Most Med students don't even know what specialty they'll go in at the beginning and many change what specialty they want to do in the middle of med school. Keep in Mind, medical school is still considered Undergraduate education. Residency is Considered graduate education.

[@techguy651]

Occupational licensing is creeping into all services in America and driving up our cost of living. And if it puts poor people in jail, that’s just a bonus for the established wealthy.

[@christianlibertarian5488]

I'm OK with that, except there would be no doctors. Nobody will pay $100 for quality services when somebody else will say they will do it for $50. It doesn't matter that the $50 guy can't really do something. You won't know. How will you know if a guy has taken out your gallbladder?

[@exchequerguy4037]

I spent a week in a hospital for complications from cancer treatment (I'm cancer-free, BTW) and was very impressed by the nurses' depth of medical knowledge.

[@grayrabbit2211]

In a hospital, it's the nurses who shine... And will keep you alive when the doctors make absolutely bonheaded decisions.

[@jbrownjetmech-4783]

Most any real nurse knows just as much as any doctor after a few years.

[@wlonsdale1]

Congrats!

[@ThatTenorGuy6]

Trust me, we don’t. We know quite a bit, but not nearly as much as MD’s.

[@jonfilibuster8499]

Lol it's easy to BS your knowledge when your audience knows nothing. Physicians know way more. Look up Dunning-Kruger. Nurses get use to standing orders and seeing how patients usually react to treatments. Great experience and can help the medical team lots. But when it comes to diagnosing, treating, monitoring for complications, and adjusting treatments, that's what the physician is there for.

[@paulwoida8249]

John, look into pharmacists and pharmacy schools. One per state leads to pharmacist shortages. 25 years ago, I was dating a pharmacist. When she changed companies, she got a raise, signing bonus and the new company helped her move.

[@e.t.calledme]

Down here in the Lower Rio Grande Valley of South Texas, it seems to be a doctor's paradise.Yet, when a doctor schedules me for some sort of a procedure, I am scheduled for return visit to discuss the procedures no less than 2 weeks to a month later. The only reason I can guess for this is they have too many patients for me to come back any sooner.

[@amillionlittledingdongs6768]

That doctor that said “I went to school for a really long time and I deserve to do this more than a nurse, they shouldn’t have their own practice,” and others like her, as far as I can tell they’re a huge issue with our medical system. This pandemic has really revealed the character of a lot of doctors. I have much least respect for medical professionals and much les trust for my government due to their choices since the beginning of the pandemic.

[@MrTommy001]

I totally agree Patrick. I now look askance at everything my family doc says or suggests. Don't even get me started on the CDC or the FDA!

[@eugenetseytlin3445]

Well, after giving up 11-17 years of your life and $300K in student loans that doctor has something to say.....In terms of YOUR respect - of course, if these doctors gave you their services for "free", you would have more respect :-). Just wonder if you ask plumber, car mechanic or grocery store to give you something for nothing?

[@gabrielbarrantes6946]

Lots of years in school don't entitle anybody to anything, I learned that the hard way, some times the skills you learn in years of school someone else can do them with a few minutes of a KZbin video or a 60 hours course or something. Also is kinda stupid the amount of years that are required, that's not rocket science.

[@docholliday4546]

@@eugenetseytlin3445 No one said anything about giving anything for free... She has the mind set that because I did this, then I deserve that, just because I did it... No, she is not as good as she thinks and needs to get over her God complex before she kills someone...

[@eugenetseytlin3445]

@@gabrielbarrantes6946 Well, your point is taken - doctors are humans too. There are good ones and bad ones...However, when you need a knee replacement which one would you choose: doc that learn procedure over the KZbin video or the doc who had a proper education? Just wonder. Or if somebody close to you diagnosed with cancer and their life is on the line, who would you choose and how much are you willing to pay for that patient to survive?

[@Eye_of_a_Texan]

I can't remember ever experiencing health care. I've never received care in a doctor's office. I've coughed up blood and sent home with the instructions to take OTC Tylenol. Gee, Thanks. That was $300+ well spent. I saw 3 different dermatologists. I practically begged them to biopsy or otherwise test my scalp. None of them did. I can tell you that it isn't dermatitis, and probably isn't psoriasis, but those are my conclusions, not a doctor. I haven't received an actual diagnosis in decades for anything.

[@johnames6430]

You need to leave town and find a new city to go visit doctors. Try a different facility brother or get better insurance.

[@Eye_of_a_Texan]

@@johnames6430 Houston pal. I would if I could. Family is a blessing and a curse I tells ya. I'm definitely going to move once the folks are gone. There won't be much here for me after that.

[@Sol36900]

You'd think their greed would be more than willing to have you take all kinds of tests in order to get more money. Could it be the insurance interfering since it would be costly to them? I'm self-pay and the only issue I have is not being taken seriously or being misdiagnosed.

[@Eye_of_a_Texan]

@@Sol36900 It's all CYA. The primary concern is to avoid liability, which essentially means that you don't get a written and confirmed diagnosis. For instance, I almost died from pneumonia years ago, and the GP at the time verbally told me that I had pulled intercostal muscles and prescribed Soma for it. That zonked me out and I slept on it for about a week until the pain was getting past the lethargy. If that GP had given me a written diagnosis, I or my family could have sued the hell out of him, but the only thing I had was a prescription, which is easier to explain away.

[@DC-ml6cv]

Go to the biggest city near you and call a specialist. It took me 10 years to get a back surgery I needed after I herniated my disc.. i got passed around from reg doc to neruo surgeons to neurologist. I called a specialist in Raleigh NC, got an amazing surgeon and he fixed me right up. 10 years.... Best advice I would give to anyone is go to the highest rated specialist in the best city near you. They make the big bucks for a reason.

[@tvojslauf]

People confuse “the best healthcare technology” with “the best healthcare system” America has some of the best healthcare technology and one of the worst systems.

[@redman1964]

My old Drs office had a 3 PAGE form only asking me things like "how you want to be described(he,him, her, it) that's NOT medicine!!! That's wokeness.

[@dank_memes_101]

I'm a US medical student studying abroad who's going to apply to practice in the US and some fields of medicine are so unattainable to me even with being a US citizen. I literally need higher test scores to match into a program. Same people who lecture you about racism

[@tonyag69]

I went to a dermatologist last year and when I had to fill out the paperwork they asked all kinds of questions about my sexuality etc. I polity took my papers backup to the front desk unfilled out and said I would find a new doctor. You've got to start pushing back they're many good doctors out there that aren't woke and actually care about your right to decide.

[@ArloPignotti]

It appears the AMA functions similar to "The Valet Association". They lobbied in my city to only allow Valet Association members to operate. So if I continue to valet for the club I had valeted for 10 years, I either had to work under the ONE AND ONLY valet company that was a member, and I could only start my own valet service if I had a MINIMUM OF 100 EMPLOYEES! Nobody can start that big. You'd have to valet for several dozen clubs and restaurants from the start! Maddening. Almost none of the valets in town operate legally because of it. And they're prohibited from getting any insurance at all. So it sure doesn't protect the consumer. Unintended consequences.

[@Channel-gz9hm]

"unintended"

[@frankolsen9568]

Can't believe a word anyone says anymore. Thank you worldwide media.

[@pablowentscobar]

My neighbor and close friend is dying of cancer, he's got maybe 8 months. A little over a year ago he went through a bad bout of depression. He talked to his PC doc and scheduled an appointment with a psychiatrist. He went and in the first 10 min she(psyche) started going off about how evil Trump was and how stupid the people voted for him were, how racist and dangerous republicans are etc. After 20 min of listening to that rhetoric he just stood up and walked out. I was fuming when he told me and asked if he reported her. He just said, "What's the point? They're all like that, the complaint will be ignored." I get physically sick thinking about it.

[@donder172]

Personally, I wouldn't even bother to stay for a quarter of that time. If I go to a psychiatrist, it's not to discuss politics.

[@pablowentscobar]

@@donder172 Me neither, but he is a very patient man.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

I came from a time when you were supposed to encourage people to empower themselves so they could help themselves... not discourage them and make them feel worthless because of some boogey man out there keeping them down

[@DonnieDarko727]

That's how they rule the useless eaters. Free range tax cattle

[@jaklumen]

@@DonnieDarko727 yep, also known as debt slaves.

[@OtherDalfite]

In the 70s "the man" was government keeping the people down. Now, government has shifted that blame solely to bad whites

[@Redmanticore]

"when you were supposed to encourage people to empower themselves so they could help themselves" so you are for schools paid from taxes? kindergardens paid from taxes? so all people are empowered to go to schools. thats what they did with G.I Bill. they paid their schools.

[@jameswhittom22]

Thank you for addressing this. I now know what words to listen for to know when to walk out and ignore their advice.

[@poop-qd4iw]

In America, my physician would say how my issues are because of something else or say it is natural and am in the marginal "80 percentile". Meanwhile the physician I had in china directly told me that I was fat. The difference is pretty wide.