Brushless R/C Rocket Vertical Landing with Pop Up Fins - RCTESTFLIGHT

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@CuervoRC
@CuervoRC 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're uploading videos of crazy inventions again, like you did before. I started 7 years ago with RC for your videos and now I make a lot of strange flying devices.
@Elimarzordan
@Elimarzordan 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@thebricktop
@thebricktop 5 жыл бұрын
that beautifull part when the rocket approaches the land and the it goes "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH"
@ryanihrig7270
@ryanihrig7270 2 жыл бұрын
I love that
@nathanmeyer7979
@nathanmeyer7979 5 жыл бұрын
“That is a large herd of gooses” -there is so much wrong with that😂
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy 5 жыл бұрын
hold my beer: "they're is an large herd of gooses"
@beijingpete
@beijingpete 4 жыл бұрын
I think a flock of cowses would be more hazardous than a herd of geeses
@justinorwen1739
@justinorwen1739 4 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@monkeyearcheese420
@monkeyearcheese420 4 жыл бұрын
Most wrong is he's so much smarter then most of us
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 2 жыл бұрын
I think he actually meant a 'thundering' herd of gooses.
@Smt_Glaive
@Smt_Glaive 5 жыл бұрын
youre finding a lot of things " in a bin" at freefly! i want that bin!
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor 5 жыл бұрын
What is Free Fly? A bin with free stuff sounds amazing.
@samcomptonbk4583
@samcomptonbk4583 5 жыл бұрын
That’s what I tell my wife all the time. Hope she doesn’t figure it out...
@Smt_Glaive
@Smt_Glaive 5 жыл бұрын
@@PowerScissor freefly is where he works I think. It's a company like dji. Known for their Alta series drones and their 5 axis gimbals.... Great firm!
@sleepingbearffg5008
@sleepingbearffg5008 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@RCDUDEFPV
@RCDUDEFPV 5 жыл бұрын
@@sleepingbearffg5008 lol
@mccc4559
@mccc4559 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel for sharing your mind and experience with us. You make KZbin worth watching. Thank you and best wishes.
@ReviewEdge
@ReviewEdge 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching people work through projects and explain their thoughts. It's my favorite type of content.
@DIYDaveT
@DIYDaveT 5 жыл бұрын
This is America at her best IMO. It's how we got to be great and its the only path to continued greatness going forward. But more people need to participate because all of a sudden, China is no backwater anymore and the people over there are very curious and smart. So if we want to maintain leadership, we need more backyard tinkering like this.
@mfeldheim
@mfeldheim 5 жыл бұрын
its incredible how well this thing balances, well done
@peterjensen6844
@peterjensen6844 5 жыл бұрын
When is your international collab with Tom Stanton?
@dangryder6050
@dangryder6050 4 жыл бұрын
They both so good! I prefer their proejcts to peter sripol and william osman (cant stand osman)
@abhi36292
@abhi36292 4 жыл бұрын
@@dangryder6050 yes
@frankellis3820
@frankellis3820 5 жыл бұрын
Suggestion, place Ripstop material between the fins. That will substantially increase your surface area in free fall.
@Bluuplanet
@Bluuplanet 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think he's looking for a parachute concept. I'd be in favor of longer blades attached to a rotating hub utilizing a gyrocopter concept. Maybe two of them counterrotating. ...and maybe a solenoid deployment mechanism.
@blaircox1589
@blaircox1589 5 жыл бұрын
But cool to try. Even a mesh, just to slow descent. If they are on servos too that auto adjusted. Would be neat if there were a simulator to try this stuff on. Something fairly accessible and not requiring compsci degree.
@liamburgo23
@liamburgo23 5 жыл бұрын
Use 1 servo to pull all the fins out at once.
@jacobellis8135
@jacobellis8135 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@wondamaner
@wondamaner 5 жыл бұрын
The airfoil affects of the steering elements is causing drag in horizontal attitude in the vertical direction. I.e. they are acting like an empennage and keeping the back from dropping. Any form of "flying" drag is going to have a dramatic affect on gravity effects.
@blackmennewstyle
@blackmennewstyle 5 жыл бұрын
"Heads up"... Such a nice touch ;) Always ton of fun on this channel!
@DoktorSativa
@DoktorSativa 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new content. I've been a subscriber for quite a long time. Nice to see the boy growing into an adult and see how your passion for flight matures with you.
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS 5 жыл бұрын
Herd of gooses
@mrlazli
@mrlazli 5 жыл бұрын
Curious Airlines geese
@Battlefresh
@Battlefresh 5 жыл бұрын
3rd comment down. Not bad!
@davincimachen5517
@davincimachen5517 5 жыл бұрын
Geese... "Gooses" roflmfao
@volador2828
@volador2828 5 жыл бұрын
Them things don't even stop for a bathroom break! They just shit all over you as they go by!
@scottmichael3745
@scottmichael3745 5 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, it's called a gaggle of geese. Just a fyi.
@isprithul
@isprithul 5 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this project. Please continue with your best effort.
@MichaelKHobbs
@MichaelKHobbs 5 жыл бұрын
I am impressed. I have been a amateur rocket scientist for about 28 years.When I saw Elon musk and all his troubles he fought with Neil Armstrong his hero. And I saw that video are you actually almost gave up his whole company. You put a lot of faith back in the humanities saying that we can do anything we want once we achieve it in our heads. Congratulations I think that's a really big step I was always looking for something other than conventional rocket motors brushless motors and what you have to stabilize it bringing again without parachutes don't need any altimeters are accelerometers maybe a nice camera on it. Thanks again Michael. PS I'm always out in Nevada Black Rock Desert September third weekend in September. Experimental rocketry balls XXX I think is coming up.you should bring this out there where you get a lot of recognition. Tripoli sanctioned rocketry event.
@Hexalyse
@Hexalyse 5 жыл бұрын
This rocket series is really cool! I'm really eager to see if you manage to get a stable model and get really far up, then I'd be really tempted to try it myself (unfortunately I don't have a 3D printer...) !
@Hexalyse
@Hexalyse 5 жыл бұрын
@eimb1999 yeah sure go build something as precise as he did without a 3D printer and with plastic sheets and wood and barely any tool. Also for metal you'd need something to weld, which I don't own. And the tools would cost even more than a 3D printer. So please keep your sarcasm to yourself, thx bye.
@Hexalyse
@Hexalyse 5 жыл бұрын
@eimb1999 Well, I guess if every builder is as condescending as you, it's not a surprise I've never learned about it, indeed. Cheers mate, have a good day. I hope you'll learn to be a little more positive in your approach to people.
@BlastsMods
@BlastsMods 5 жыл бұрын
im really loving the new channel logic, you're really good with this stuff! also love the music
@shawnd649
@shawnd649 5 жыл бұрын
Blasts Mods i was looking for this comment
@mrfourtysevenman
@mrfourtysevenman 5 жыл бұрын
You have acheived quite a lot in this build. I'm very impressed. You should stay on this project and keep improving on it
@DSB1234567890
@DSB1234567890 2 жыл бұрын
I think the servo fins are reinforcing the spinning on the way down. They're adjusting themselves in a way that would stop the rotation if air were going downwards through them, but air is going upwards instead so their effect is reversed. Like you said, it would be interesting to have their control loops reverse on freefall but that would be tricky. Maybe have it reverse when throttle is near-zero and a certain rate of descent is measured (GPS or altimeter)?
@theecstatic9686
@theecstatic9686 5 жыл бұрын
Craziest backyard genius I have come across on this KZbin thing....
@fxm5715
@fxm5715 5 жыл бұрын
"That's a lot of chooch," yes, but could use a bit more skookum. :)
@blaircox1589
@blaircox1589 5 жыл бұрын
Totally thought of AvE when you said that.
@mandog2142
@mandog2142 5 жыл бұрын
Watch out for the schmoo!
@sierrawhiskey5144
@sierrawhiskey5144 5 жыл бұрын
Needs more NE555n
@emoneydev8684
@emoneydev8684 2 жыл бұрын
Would be a cool idea for local transport of goods from a big drone hub
@robertselectronichobbies9507
@robertselectronichobbies9507 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing rocket! Hard to believe you can control it so well. Great video!
@lycantrophe2
@lycantrophe2 5 жыл бұрын
When you said it looks like a helicopter i thought "actually.. why not make the fins from helicopter blades so the rocket can descend with autorotation like a helicopter. the rotation will also gyroscopicly stabilize it.
@jamesg7371
@jamesg7371 5 жыл бұрын
Put the hinged flaps on a ball bearing or what not to get the rotation.
@pauljs75
@pauljs75 5 жыл бұрын
Rotor rocket descent isn't exactly a new concept, but I agree it's worth visiting. If you're intentionally having it helicopter on the way down, then the rotor section needs to be able to spin freely so the rest of the rocket doesn't spin with it. Mainly because it'd make regaining control a bit easier. Might even be more stable because a bit of the gyro effect and the spinning would make the fins deploy more consistently.
@blaircox1589
@blaircox1589 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesg7371 yes, that!
@TheScreamingFrog916
@TheScreamingFrog916 5 жыл бұрын
Make the flaps slightly angled, like fan blades, and spinning centrifugal force will get them all to stick out on the way down. or use a servo to push a ring up under them, a little like an umbrella. When only one flap sticks out, it makes it less likely that the others will deploy because of aerodynamics.
@djedUVprojector
@djedUVprojector 5 жыл бұрын
I also thought this was going to use autorotation principle, how about mesh petal shaped curved fins...
@websitesthatneedanem
@websitesthatneedanem 5 жыл бұрын
Love the 'harsh' editing!... cutting out all the gaps! Makes for a very watchable video! 👍👍👍
@evenharbitz2825
@evenharbitz2825 5 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how much control you have. The thing looks really cool😜
@toreshammerecelt861
@toreshammerecelt861 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see smart young people with wholesome hobbies. 👌🏻 God bless.
@testbenchdude
@testbenchdude 5 жыл бұрын
You probably already know this, but the motor scream is due to the prop's proximity to your vectoring surfaces. I mean, it's not a big deal aerodynamically, but that's the reason that flying wings (in pusher format) and prop-in-slot motor placements are so noisy. I'm not sure there's much you can do about it in this config, but there you go. Neat project, and thanks for the update!
@SeabornNomad
@SeabornNomad 4 жыл бұрын
Very smart design, used minimal parts and succeeded! Great engineering.
@Fpvfreaky
@Fpvfreaky 5 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Good job man. Those fins work a treat. Glad you got your mobius back aswel👌😎
@mackdlite5900
@mackdlite5900 5 жыл бұрын
Great work! SpaceX and Blue Origin are probably competing to get you! Can't wait to see the next one!
@JeanDeBailliencourt
@JeanDeBailliencourt 5 жыл бұрын
Gooses!?
@xnoreq
@xnoreq 5 жыл бұрын
Plural: geese.
@yanosaur
@yanosaur 5 жыл бұрын
Herd of gooses? 🤭
@BrosephWilliams
@BrosephWilliams 5 жыл бұрын
Lol a herd of them!
@geeH2oS
@geeH2oS 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@Billy_Darley
@Billy_Darley 5 жыл бұрын
*FLOCK OF GEESE*
@mtbevins
@mtbevins 5 жыл бұрын
Great series. Thanks for taking us along on the journey .
@danbeckstead2020
@danbeckstead2020 5 жыл бұрын
Glad these style videos are back! Great stuff
@mobius-1965
@mobius-1965 5 жыл бұрын
Man I love that rig its pure genius,do your thing and don't pay to much attention to what people say.
@ZRTMWA
@ZRTMWA 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I could tell on that drop from the on board camera how close that came to the ground before you even said anything. That was excellent timing. Edit: Bro that last one too! Holy shit!
@BrianPhillipsRC
@BrianPhillipsRC 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I love the technical content you share! Thanks
@Stanton_High
@Stanton_High 5 жыл бұрын
You need better props BAD! The vectoring is flattening out that 5x3x2 to make almost no thrust. Get something like a 5051, dal cyclone 5050x3, or emax avan and this will be a whole new beast!
@friendlyfire01
@friendlyfire01 5 жыл бұрын
My 2C is to disable control surfaces and center them when the motor is shutdown, all as one. That way the top fins should provide the most drag and corrective forces. This will also keep your motor pointing down and lessen the altitude it takes to arrest your descent.
@friendlyfire01
@friendlyfire01 5 жыл бұрын
OH! also the top fins should fold slightly more than 90 degrees to the body because when the craft angles hard over the opposing fin must be able to match that or else lose efficiency. when the craft is vertical, the fins all facing slightly toward the sky will increase descent speed slightly, but the benefit is massively increased centering on descent. KSP FTW!!!
@NatEva
@NatEva 5 жыл бұрын
Have you considered integrating a way to move the battery up and down the shaft to dynamically adjust the CG? It may help you solve the CG/CP relationship in the different flight modes.
@AirCommandRockets
@AirCommandRockets 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how quickly it pulls out of a spin on the way down.
@carlocastelli7511
@carlocastelli7511 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo and congratulations for the application! Excellent head.
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 2 жыл бұрын
As a model rocket shooter-upper I really like this electric rocket idea. I think it might mean you can ignore the 400 foot RC plane and drone limits. And the possible altitudes capable with a good battery, and perhaps a multi-stage motor and battery system... Wow!
@Semparo
@Semparo 5 жыл бұрын
If it's not already been suggested you could color the drag fins to help increase visibility to help with orientation.
@TheScreamingFrog916
@TheScreamingFrog916 5 жыл бұрын
florescent orange on the bottom, with reflective tips
@josiahR125
@josiahR125 5 жыл бұрын
may i suggest colouring the fins 4 different bright colours to help get its orientation
@jamesmontgomery6304
@jamesmontgomery6304 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent project! Once initial thrust is cut off, and free fall is initiated, I was watching the lower fins move, and initially thought it was surface "control flutter." It seems (like you mentioned) that the gyro was trying to compensate (albeit backwards) to return to equilibrium. It was interesting to watch the rocket pitch as both sets of fins fought for more drag. After the CG was lowered, the rocket simply spun on a stable axis. You could orientate the upper fins to take advantage of this, perhaps a controlled helicopter - like auto gyro descent, like is mentioned in a few responses. Trying to program the lower fins to compensate in a reversed manner solely during free fall would be really to cool to play with and observe. Also, battery in a higher position during launch and lowered for free fall? Once again, great job stretching our access to the frontier of this kind of stuff!
@BillGriggs
@BillGriggs 4 жыл бұрын
Cool project. I wonder if larger fins set at a higher angle of attack could induce a more controlled spin?
@FPVREVIEWS
@FPVREVIEWS 5 жыл бұрын
Need to eject a battery after ascent, then use another for landing, to change the CG/CP balance? better to orient the fins in the vertical plane, rather than horizontal, so that they can stabilize better, such as grid fins(which are oriented vertically in an aerodynamic sense, but horizontal appearance) , or arrow feathers. looking forward to seeing future developments.
@problemwithauthority
@problemwithauthority 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool. First mod I thought of was to have the upper stabilizer use longer blades like a helicopter, and have the blade hub free spin on the shaft....giving a an "auto rotation" effect where it will slow the decent and offer stability...Stubby blades may work as well.
@proonguice8386
@proonguice8386 5 жыл бұрын
Herd of gooses? How bout Gaggle of geese. Sweet rocket and great idea though 👍🏻
@RediscoveryChannel2021
@RediscoveryChannel2021 5 жыл бұрын
Your gaggle made me giggle
@Cybo-Man
@Cybo-Man 5 жыл бұрын
Actually since the Geese are in flight it would be a Flock of Geese.
@hunterward2261
@hunterward2261 4 жыл бұрын
@@missionslos8856 ikr
@tonystanton9223
@tonystanton9223 5 жыл бұрын
Just came across this and was instantly amazed at what you have built, first one ive seen, love the idea, i see everyones comments on the flaps at the top and i thought id add my 2 cents, if you angle them slightly as in a a set of multi rotor blades , one set clockwise the other counter clockwise , it mite stabilize your free fall, also just some food for thought, when you spoke about how sensitive your cg was, i had an idea, since your main centre structure, why not wind a coil of copper wire around it and slip a magnatised steel tube or a magnet with a hole in the centre over the coil, so it can slip up and down the shaft, with some way of varying an electrical current through the coil , you should be able to move the magnet up and down the shaft, i understand this is more complicated than it sounds but its a starting point for the idea, with some software involved it could be auto set to move itself depending on acending or decending , or you could manually move it with a trim knob on your transmitter. Sorry about the long read, love the idea man, cant wait to see where this leads 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@jackdaniels7913
@jackdaniels7913 5 жыл бұрын
Oh shut the old dx8 man I rocked mine for ever 😂 you need an frsky x10/x10s there incredible I have the x10s and it's a dream with opentx black and white night and day just incredible... almost as incredible as your work here this is an incredible idea that I've never seen in the RC community grate job! And cheers 🍻
@jaymassengill3340
@jaymassengill3340 5 жыл бұрын
If you make the thrust vector control fins symmetrical from top to bottom around their axis of rotation, that should reduce the deflection caused by the upward airflow across the fins when the vehicle is falling. It looks like that upward airflow when in freefall is overpowering the servos.
@acadman4322
@acadman4322 5 жыл бұрын
AS far as I can see, you are sitting on a gold mine. That thing is awesome! Make 'em- A million kids want this! Men, too! I am guessing the Chinese are already tooling up to make 'em by the hundred thousands. Also, calling it a "rocket"- you will have all sorts of attention from the FAA trolls- Call it a "Sky Probe" or "Sky Arrow"- Sounds safer and unregulated. No kidding- Awesome toy. The government is going to go nuts over them- something else to regulate. Great vid and congratulations - Wonderful innovation. You are about to become very rich.
@Bear049
@Bear049 5 жыл бұрын
Some radio transmitters have a servo reversing switch
@torkdork69
@torkdork69 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome build. Not too bad flying.
@GingerBuddz
@GingerBuddz 5 жыл бұрын
you should find middle balance point, add servo on switch or timer and add small parachute. large project but it would be fun to see it land on its side slow and controlled. im interested in how you would strap/deloy such things from the side. easier from a top mount cap.
@zalmez7207
@zalmez7207 5 жыл бұрын
You could try to add some kind of parachute between the fins?
@blatantpotato1367
@blatantpotato1367 5 жыл бұрын
I would suggest something like setting a switch on the radio to reverse the servos for when you start coming down, the wobble goes away.
@LA6UOA
@LA6UOA 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! I have the eksact same Subaru Impreza!! How cool :-) Nice flying! Thanks for sharing!
@johnarizona3820
@johnarizona3820 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, cool channel. Don't blaspheme. Everything we do, say and think comes back to us, I.E.: we reap what we sow. Bless you friend. Polarity reversing switch like the ones used in model trains for instantaneously reversing fin function as it descends.
@melloowrush
@melloowrush 5 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting! I would love to build something like this. I think the reason its spinning, which starts right after you reduce the throttle, is because like u said the servos are programmed to control air coming from the other direction, so when air hits it from the bottom the servos move to exaggerate any rotation, like the rotational torque from the motor spinning down
@nathanchalecki4842
@nathanchalecki4842 5 жыл бұрын
The backward acting control surfaces definitely mess things up while it's falling. Would love to see that fixed. Cool project!!!
5 жыл бұрын
That sudden decelleration was aided by ground effect of the thrust pushing against the ground as it approached.
@PokerShark101
@PokerShark101 4 жыл бұрын
Great project... Reminds me of something was working on a few years back but didn't get to finish. It also reminded me of an interesting effect I noticed when I was a kid. I had one of those balsa wood cheapie flyers with the red prop and rubber band. Just for kicks, I removed the rubber band and gave it a toss. Much to my surprise, the air resistance caused to prop to spin fast enough so that it was having an interesting reaction to the flight characteristics of the plane. When I'm watching your rocket fall, I'm wondering what kind of an effect would be created if your fins were shaped like props, and they had the ability to spin with wind resistance during free fall. My guess is that the gyroscopic effect would add some position stability, while at the same time increasing the rockets hang time as it falls.
@brianevans4
@brianevans4 4 жыл бұрын
The Insta360Go would be the absolute perfect camera for that flying machine! Imagine putting that on top and setting it up as "invisible selfie stick". How cool would that video look! It would literally be a floating camera that looks like a spear. please try it Daniel!
@WForrestFrantz
@WForrestFrantz 5 жыл бұрын
Really great try-storming. The more naturally stable the ship (as you found by moving the battery down), the more thrust that can go to missile lift acceleration/speed. - Put the motor at the top (out of the way of the battery). - Put the battery at the bottom ... looks like you know how to print a centering bracket/landing legs to hold the battery under the end of the carbon rod/fuselage ... for natural stable vertical flight, the Cg of the battery must be dead under the rod/fuselage or the ship will have a natural lean - That will put the Cg as low as possible so the missile is as stable as possible so thrust goes toward vertical lift - With the props at the top, you no longer need the flip-out fins because ... a slow rotating prop will create a drag disk during descent (more drag than lift) ... the battery mass will keep the ship vertical (think pendulum) ... the rudders (located under the prop near the top) will no longer create an upsetting force - Consider making the battery holder/landing gear into fins or holder/gear/fins Super cool how you can catch the missile and that your missile has that much lateral control. So yes, continue using your clever rudders (just under the prop) so that you can continue to vector the missile laterally upon descent. Explanation of other comments. - Cp, the center of pressure & Cg or the Center of mass or Center of Gravity ... Think of a parachute. A parachute (Cp) needs to be behind (down wind of) the person (mass or Cg) it is trying to safely lower to the ground. ... Think of a rocket. The tail fins (Cp) need to be behind the mass of the rocket (Cg). ... Your Cp will be the battery-holder-drag/landing-gear-drag/(and if needed, tail fins) and the Cg will be about 1/4 of the distance up the missile. You've created a lot of interest. Well done! P.S. By putting the motors at the top and rudders right behind the propwash, you've created a canard used on advanced fighter jets, so be prepared for some interesting tuning of the actuators to attain smooth vertical flight at high speed :-) P.P.S. There would be a long set of wires running from the battery to the motor. You can use 16 to 20 AWG wire for the amps you are pulling. Wire, unlike on ground installations, have not only heat loss but also lose energy by the fact that the motor now has to lift its weight.
@ericanderson3985
@ericanderson3985 5 жыл бұрын
I think your stabilizer fins are inducing an oscillation because they are angles downward. Much like a circular parachute canopy air builds up inside and causes it to rock back and forth dumping out excess air that's why they have a vent hole at the top angle the fins. upward or putting some holes and them to dump off the excess air.
@SebastienChedalBornu
@SebastienChedalBornu 4 жыл бұрын
using a vario to start automatiocally below a certain altitude, and as you said invert the fin directions when falling
@xnoreq
@xnoreq 5 жыл бұрын
You should make the top folding propeller bigger and add a mechanism to have each blade unfold properly on descent. Maybe not have it fold completely or something as simple as rubber bands pulling up each blade (just a bit) would help?
@oisiaa
@oisiaa 5 жыл бұрын
What's the max theoretical altitude based on the energy capacity of the battery and the mass of the vehicle? I'd guess somewhere over 20,000 feet.
@towers3372
@towers3372 5 жыл бұрын
At full throttle on 6S this could probably go for four minutes. It would have to ascend at 80mph to reach 20,000 feet in that amount of time which I don't think it gets anywhere close to
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 5 жыл бұрын
@@towers3372 right, and that tiny prop could not push enough of the thin air to get the lift it needs to get anywhere near 80mph either. Even at 6000 feet the air is already only 80% as dense as at sea level. Then you have the problem that something will overheat. I'd say you'd be very lucky to get past about 4000 feet.
@kevinattard5514
@kevinattard5514 5 жыл бұрын
If you’re sticking with the air braking fins in the next design, you should try hooking them up to a servo so you can simultaneously control their opening and force them to stay in the open position
@johnnycakez2750
@johnnycakez2750 5 жыл бұрын
This has great potential. Nice one. Looking forward to the other rocket vids. Also, please upload more if you get the time, your videos are the best!
@icyartillery9027
@icyartillery9027 5 жыл бұрын
I know I’m hella late to this but you could hook up a barometric altitude sensor, run a loop testing for the height, and once it starts dropping (say 10 feet below peak), you roll over your code so the servo positions are inverted (say from limit 45°-135° to 135°-45°)
@mobzi2644
@mobzi2644 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not rocket engineer but i've seen a lot of video (just to give one example from Scott Manley) and the stabilisation is about center of drag(CD) vs center of gravity (CG). As I understand it the CD must be under CG while ascending, and over it while descending. The Space X Fin increase the drag on the top of the vehicle while descending, and so take that CD up... Hope i helped !
@rogerwolf1700
@rogerwolf1700 5 жыл бұрын
I like the drag fins,that's an awesome idea! Maybe 6 fins at the top alil longer and thinner may help and keep the top weight down .
@BMcGhee-t5v
@BMcGhee-t5v 5 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time. I wish he did a build video with shared code. This is like the brushless RC version of Elons rocket. Nice work @rctestflight
@nerfvinc12121212
@nerfvinc12121212 5 жыл бұрын
That propeller-fin design is pretty darn clever.
@gwheyduke
@gwheyduke 4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever see these old test flights? Rotary Rocket Roton? It was supposed to be an SSTO prototype. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXzTZ2ZjltNlqtU
@Dennio83
@Dennio83 4 жыл бұрын
it has to be super awesome to hear your voice in your head
@sporkeh90
@sporkeh90 5 жыл бұрын
The drag difference (or the total area presented) seems to be neglible between it being vertical or horizontal.
@waitemc
@waitemc 5 жыл бұрын
Auto rotation on its way down can recharge batts for the smooth landing. Regenerating on the way down.
@Nanotick1
@Nanotick1 5 жыл бұрын
If the 4 blades are for air-brakes then drill some holes in them and open 90 deg. or a little more. If the 4 blades are for gyro rotation then make all four of them longer and all four rotate together but independent from the main rocket body while still being able to control the rocket with the lower fins.
@GorgeousCorvus
@GorgeousCorvus 5 жыл бұрын
Love your style and approach!
@Mobimanie
@Mobimanie 5 жыл бұрын
You should try to disconnect the upper wings from the chassis, so they can spin independently from the body. Also enabling them to spread a bit higher than in horizontal position when extracted could help to stabilize. I think anyhow your gyro with the control surfaces is messing with it on its way down.
@leotard2536
@leotard2536 5 жыл бұрын
On that last flight, you can see that the vectoring fins are shifting around during the fall, which made it lose stability. If you had a way to change the mode of those fins during fall, like with a button, then it would work better. Also, the pop-up fins would help the rocket come out of a horizontal fall because the fins on the skyward facing side would create more drag than the groundward ones.
@ryanm.191
@ryanm.191 5 жыл бұрын
Add servos in the rotational axis so that you can control the rocket on decent (just like the grid fins on a falcon)
@ryanm.191
@ryanm.191 5 жыл бұрын
S A that can be easily countered. Plus grid fins wouldn’t cause as much drag, which in this case isn’t good
@karlo9944
@karlo9944 5 жыл бұрын
If it has some rotorblades, you can land easily and slow by the gyro-effect. I had this as a toy, as a child. Only the launch was different. It was launched by a rubberband- catapult
@wayne-oo
@wayne-oo 5 жыл бұрын
A great project , you need to come up with a kit to build one of these ! I'd buy it !
@randallee3544
@randallee3544 4 жыл бұрын
How much weight would a connection or a extra servo cause issues in flight? Through software you should be able to make a smaller ratio for the fins on top so the rocket is stable coming back down to the ground. Just a idea😄
@bdseidler
@bdseidler 5 жыл бұрын
Fun watching your experiments.
@Legocard08
@Legocard08 4 ай бұрын
I can't find the next video of this great project. Was this the last one you did according the rocket?
@manselreed4191
@manselreed4191 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to drop horizontally you could just have some sort of drag device parallel with the centerline.it might look like a + or o from the end. I also think i saw a flight where only 2 flaps deployed, it seemed to fall flatter but may have reduced your control like when you crashed.
@greyhunter147
@greyhunter147 5 жыл бұрын
very nice project! 2 suggestion: 1 Allow the fins go up of more 30/40°, this give more stability (little less drag) and dont let then to close when it inclines 2 put 4 more servo on the fins to push it a little down (increasing drag), you can control the descend with it like aileron and elevator.
@thoongchinglee4905
@thoongchinglee4905 5 жыл бұрын
Add some soft thin plastic sheets in between the flaps, when expanded you will have a better drag when the rocket is descending.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 5 жыл бұрын
If the blades acts as auto rotating helicopter blades, they will have bigger drag than a plastic chute and it will also stabilize the decent
@SINIS0RSA
@SINIS0RSA 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tore_Lund My thoughts exactly.
@thoongchinglee4905
@thoongchinglee4905 5 жыл бұрын
Getting a swash plate or a bushing or a bearing to stay on the rod is a consideration to be made not to complicate the sub system.
@raymondsimpson7433
@raymondsimpson7433 5 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of putting the propeller at the top to pull the vehicle instead of on the bottom to push. That would be cool to get into outer space without jet propulsion, keep thinking outside the box
@GDLutz
@GDLutz 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! what software are you running on the flight controller?
@dwarkabaron8773
@dwarkabaron8773 5 жыл бұрын
Place light tension springs on the nose flaps to remove the involuntary movement. Adding sight radius to the flaps will add control and more drag for the descent, less drag for the ascent, and a more true parachute effect. You could even place a through rod inside the main tube connected to the speed control which will tell the servo to open the flaps under a need speed/fall condition.
@MichaelGarrison93
@MichaelGarrison93 5 жыл бұрын
What if you designed your own type of grid fin like SpaceX uses? They could either be 3D printed or made out of aluminum. Instead of just adding drag and acting like a knuckleball, it would direct the airflow and stabilize the rocket. You could also use servos to control said grid fins to help counter the thrust vectoring fins
@zxggwrt
@zxggwrt 5 жыл бұрын
A big EDF would be cool but still what you've done here is very nice!
@ethanspaziani1070
@ethanspaziani1070 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing work keep up the progress I'm looking forward to you using solid-state rockets that will be very interesting I wonder where this project will eventually go I am excited
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