Streamers react to WORLD FIRST clear of FFXIV Dragonsong's Reprise Ultimate Day 7

[@dragonknight1k161]

The reason we won't see a full clear vid right now is basically common rqid courtesy. Normally they wait til at least a few more teams clear to not spoil the whole fight and open the floodgates for the overall strategy. Plus it'd be a kick in the gonads to the other prog teams.

[@lajohnson8588]

yeah. there should be 2nd and 3rd clear before publishing a clear vid

[@Dragoncro0wn]

@@lajohnson8588 people that want to clear it can just not watch it? Or are they afraid of the viewers to spoil it in the comments. That would make sense

[@TNTspaz]

Bro, I fucking love Ozma. I hope he stays the ultimate designer for the foreseeable future

[@bearandthebull2372]

@@kyeda Translation+tldr:Tea and Dsr are a mix of horrific design and Frankenstein mechanics that have nothing to do with ANYTHING involving their original fights unlike ucob and uwu.

[@KyMiyu]

@@bearandthebull2372 almost like it's an alternative timeline for DsR...

[@bearandthebull2372]

@@KyMiyu Every ultimate is an au,but not even TEA was this egregious with its Frankenstein nonsense.Your telling me thordan had the time AND power while weakened to:Go to allagan land,resurrect both kids of middy,throw an allagan control device on hraes but NOT niddy(who would probably fight back more out of spite canonically),grant them both equal power to their original selves,AND absorb that power in what would canonically be fucking hours in the story?Keep in mind the knights would be severely weakend by this point due to a lack of faith and losing twice already. TEA made it apparent everything was happening at once in a what if,Dsr is "what would happen if the writers smoked crack and made it into a fight at 90".Thats not even getting into mechanics none of these fights demonstrated originally(niddy nor hrae had tethers like in their duo fight,and the dragons wouldn't/couldn't dive bomb).

[@TNTspaz]

These replies are pretty wack

[@saladsareninjas]

@@TNTspaz Why is it always the same losers with the "~le horrific design le plastic artificial difficulty" card? Why is it always the same people who think they know what the fuck they're actually talking about because they saw a 1000 subscriber KZbinr rant about difficulty in a "video essay" and now they feel like they're "in the know" with how things should be made in videogames? I swear.

[@roberts7873]

Watching these clips makes me realize how casual I am and how I'm fine with that.

[@ffxivreactions]

Same here, I see myself as a casual (even though I cleared e12s eventually) and prefer to watch prog instead

[@zweimystesitwantedalastnam9162]

I feel it.

[@aarongeorge4885]

Same. I have TEA ultimate unlocked but some of the other Savage raids does really humble me as a casual

[@blaidehwa]

@@ffxivreactions I've cleared Ucob TEA and UwU and this fight still terrifies me

[@ffxivreactions]

Be advised that Neverland (the group that cleared) did not post any video of them clearing, however the video in the description is their audio for the clear

[@twistedlime1975]

oh ok thank you for that info, im just sitting here like ok by I feel cheated now... Hmm lol

[@brennanlable]

why in the world didn't they post a vid? are they waiting for more people to clear first? seems sooo fuckin dumb, literally everyone wants to see the world first clear

[@linkshellvendor]

sus

[@cheesudesu123]

@@linkshellvendor they will post it after the 2nd clear

[@Lordilucas12]

@@linkshellvendor not that weird tbh, some groups don't want to post their strats during the race so they get an advantage

[@rosecheesecake]

Love xenos, "it was harder in april" 🤣

[@twistedlime1975]

What did he Mean by that? Im slow so I know i missed something lol.

[@specialnewb9821]

@@twistedlime1975 i think it's a joking reference on how people say ultimate content was harder when it first came out so later clears are not the same. This came out in April and its now May

[@EnderVAD]

@@twistedlime1975 When Rich cleared one of the ultimates, one person made a twit where they did a long explanation that was harder in , therefore clearing it now is not that big of an achievement. They finished the twit with "But congrats" which became a meme for such situations and especially on Xeno's channel :)

[@decilence6184]

Just a meme about how content is harder when it is released , so "it was harder in April" is a joke because nothing changed from then to now. But congrats tho.

[@twistedlime1975]

@@EnderVAD ahh ok ty ty

[@plasmahandoku1073]

Feels like people would give up TEA more than Dragonsong tbh. Though this fight is long as hell being a 2 min door boss+ 19 min of the rest of the fight.

[@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302]

Remember when everyone said this wasn't a legitimate ultimate cause there was a checkpoint?

[@twistedlime1975]

@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 Right!?

[@specialnewb9821]

@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 Okay tbf only stupid people said that.

[@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302]

@@specialnewb9821 Without a doubt, the idiots who will never clear one will always have stupid opinions about it. I just enjoy pointing it out lol.

[@nephjd88]

@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 I remember seeing some people say that it wasn't going to be long because of the progress bar. Some people really are special.

[@Caribbean-Man]

i wanna see thordans final form! idc who wins!

[@sladeslasher4036]

Underrated comment

[@deathpresent101]

theres a screen shot of it

[@Egalia_1]

This is absolute insanity, hats off to these absolute legends

[@trimack]

8 minutes of people progging to hear two streamers congratulate Neverland on the clear. K

[@GalaxiaKnightX]

Wait someone already cleared the ultimate. Well..kinda figured by the 7th day..someone beaten this raid. Which thankfully they never posted a video on them clearing. Meaning we get to see these other teams fight the raid without any help other then just them strategizing. I think. Either way congrats to Neverland!

[@darkhand412]

"I'm not even mad, cuz we get to hear this song more" Excellent design achieved.

[@jeffbatista]

Would be nice if Neverland streamed their clear, they didn't need to interact with chat but I'm still curios how is the last phase since a lot of other streamers still progging nidhog/Hraesvelgr

[@nekuronee]

Strats would be stolen, making it tougher to world first. Theres a reason why those top rivaling team arent streaming their world race

[@AzureCrux]

It's an FF14 tradition to withold the VOD of the world first till the world 2nd or 3rd happens. They have it recorded, and we'll get to see it soon.It prevents the haters from using it as a way to cheapen the effort that other guilds put in to try to be first

[@jeffbatista]

@@AzureCrux makes sense

[@Mseeing]

@@nekuronee well I think neverland do the same thing stoles other steam mechanics that why they don't steam same thing with tps but congrats neverland for cleaning the ultimate dragonsong but remember when tps clear ultimate alexander would first they were steam did other steam stole their mechanics no because very mechanics do the samething but tps go check what the mechanics is when they keep die with the sword mechanics

[@nekuronee]

@@Mseeing okay please enlighten me on whether is this a copy pasta or an actual statement. Because I've seen enough dumb shit in every community to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if this is a serious comment LMAO

[@shirox11]

Honestly i hope they keep the difficulty. Nothing wrong with having dragonsong be the ultimate ultimate.

[@4567samsung]

man its a good thing rich was helping or we would have never seen a clear this for 2 weeks

[@ArchieGamez]

Congrats, uh Neverland! You never see it coming, huh?! That's because Rich is in there! Just so you know, one of you is actually Rich, he has been gearing up this past last 3 months with his alt. So congrats, you got blessed by the Triple Legend in secret. So, Uh, GG!

[@specialnewb9821]

Whooo, 7 days!

[@Mystica84]

Congrats neverlamd for the first world clear 👏

[@HyouVizer]

"It least im not playing MCH" 0:56 **MCH 3.x Knockback skill** 😈

[@AleXannon92]

Wait so who cleared and why is there no footage of said clear?

[@valkyrieKNIGH7]

A group called Neverland beat it this morning. They are waiting for more groups to clear before releasing the clear vod

[@miorioff]

Neverland guys, looks like they didn't stream which is pretty lame. Sadge

[@Kalanin399]

Neverland cleared the group and they're an EU raid group that doesn't stream their attempts like TPS (Thoughts Per Second). A lot of it has to due with the fact that they dont want their stategies used by the other teams. There is likely a video, but the team is going to be holding off on releasing it for several more days.

[@Kalanin399]

@@blaizemarquez2967 Was not aware, I was mostly just aware that Neverland was EU based. In either case it's nice to see that a group cleared.

[@Bluelyre]

It's a general courtesy for world firsts to not release clear vids for a couple of days so a few more teams can get the full experience and craft their own strats.

[@shakeweller]

"get footage get footage" shows that just trialing and error to learn mechanics is not enough. You need to practice a phase separately but you are not fully focused 14mins in. So footage plus dry practice it is and that feels awkward.

[@Toxickiitten]

8:28 people have different ways of coping with life and this is one of them loool

[@pily8438]

is there anywhere count of pulls they did? I read about ultimate alexander had insane ammount of pulls :D

[@ArchieGamez]

According to one of the members twitter, its 700 pulls and i think u can check FFLogs too

[@gdzen4302]

I dont have enough brain capacity to understand whats going on. Jesus christ, im so causal…

[@Soooooooooooonicable]

"I like that jump"

[@yoomene]

Cerberus powaaaaaaa

[@V_izu]

Harder in April but congrats madge clap

[@James-kv3ll]

That was fast

[@troper7317]

I remember before the first Endwalker raid tier Xeno saying that SE will make this game way easier to babysit the playerbase, but now he's really salty about the ultimate dificult, I think its way hard too, but its funny to see him salty

[@Hi_howrudoin]

The thing is ult probably has nothing to do with most players. Making content easier as in alliance and other raids. Rotation is becoming easier right? And apparently except P3s P124S are a joke Now he is ranting about new ult being too hard is because this sht is way too hard. Idk if u personally prog this thing but it makes you wanna smash computer. I am going insane now :3

[@chevoyingram9589]

@@kyeda I bet you were a person who cried because it had a checkpoint.

[@zombiesxaliens]

@@chevoyingram9589 I guarantee it looool

[@yehudahajaj9454]

Excuse me sir,hoe is that counts as salty?

[@boringfactor8792]

@@kyeda you are one hell of a clown

[@reactiveruby14]

Am i missing something? When Xenosys says it was easier in april what does he mean? Iove only been watching clips of multiple progs and i dont understand what he means by it as all the clips and stuff ive seen point to the ultimate being the same difficulty. Im probably just being pepega and he's making a joke since he's practically on copium about not being the first to clear (Edit i was being completely pepega)

[@monojuice]

It’s just a joke, April was last week when it first came out

[@ammmmmmmmmmmmmmy]

he was memeing, referring to the popular copypasta from ages ago congratulating on a clear but being passive aggressive like "IT WAS HARDER IN BACK IN [month] THOUGH BUT CONGRATS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS HARDER IN [month]"

[@Ranziel1]

There are so many raiders who want to do Ultimate but can’t because of anxiety or lack of social networking. They see Legend as something greater. You all spit on those people’s plight. Clear for 1 Ultimate prog never happens. This hurts and doesn’t help. But congrats

[@Froggsroxx]

A very misleading video title...

[@NeFlux]

Much click bait title lolz

[@Nejy]

I found the title pretty clickbaity

[@infragrayscale]

"Congrats, but..." Is total copium lol

[@justchill7823]

Pretty sure he's being sarcastic

[@Kelenae]

he was being 100% sarcastic lol /woosh

[@Hkhai47]

He was mocking the people who got mad at Rich Campbell for breezing thru triple legend.

[@Venosyne]

But congrats Madge Clap

[@didac3859]

It is widely accepted that the ability to use and detect sarcasm is closely related with intelligence. Draw whatever conclussions you want from this info.

[@jesperjohansson9857]

I hate how FF14 designs all fights like a huge memory game, there is so little reactionary play you all just have to remember a bunch of patterns over and over again. :/

[@yoyomama99]

I bet you havent cleared an ultimate saying that

[@aeyasera1]

this is how to tell people you don't raid without telling people you don't raid

[@clumsyturtle8544]

I'd rather use my brain to remember mechanics than use addons that tell me what to do then react.

[@Ktjnn]

14 is just a glorified rhythm game. The fights are like tracks and your rotation and mechanic movement are the stepcharts. Just a memory/muscle memory game.

[@yoyomama99]

@@Ktjnn I share this view that 14 is like a rhythm game too for a long time. I just dont like that it being formulaic/precise in nature is used as a degrading point for the game. Many people still cant raid properly even with this being "only a memory/rhythm game", and while the general timeline of a fight is mostly formulaic, many of the individual mechanics themselves in that fight are not, and require spatial awareness and also a good reaction time.