Sorry I misspoke a little toward the end… I’m thinking the new 6th Gen 4Runner TRD Pro will be $68-70K… since the new Tacoma TRD Pro will be over $65K. The 4Runner is generally just a little more… crazy.
@LivingRetirement6 ай бұрын
The 4Runner TRD Pro will be starting at 70k, not less.
@RK-nr8qf6 ай бұрын
All of the dealerships in my neck-of-the-woods are loaded with vehicles. It don't matter what manufacturer. The prices and interest rates are out of most people's reach. A far smarter purchase would be with some kind of appreciating real estate.
@UntamedMotors6 ай бұрын
@@LivingRetirementisn’t that just insane? Smh 🤦♂️
@CMS0696 ай бұрын
@@UntamedMotors I had a 23’ Trd pro 4Runner in magnetic gray that I put just barely 8000 miles on it that I owned for 8 months, traded it in for a 24’ Trd pro 4 runner. They gave me 54,000 for my 23’ and paid 56,416 for my 24’. . The dealer has my old 23 on the lot and they are asking $57,406. How does that make any sense?
@BGood4966 ай бұрын
It makes sense because they need wiggle room to sell your trade in.
@brians77276 ай бұрын
Failing reliability? Corporate greed? Lagging sales? Toyota is getting more American by the day.
@jjpark19896 ай бұрын
It's ironic because American brands are becoming more like the old Toyota we all know and love.
@thepositivelyfe81146 ай бұрын
a conspiracy can be that Ford and chevy have forced toyota into this so they can sell more units lol.
@Warg6666 ай бұрын
The resale value of vehicles is high so they are charging more for vehicles to offset the difference, but the higher prices end up sitting on the lots longer!~
@providentpathfinders2196 ай бұрын
@@jjpark1989really??????? reliability is still crap.
@Keefer246 ай бұрын
@@providentpathfinders219everything is crap nowadays.
@chillbro88116 ай бұрын
Toyota is building it cheaper in Mexico and selling it for PREMIUM 😂
@janetairlines13516 ай бұрын
If trump gets back in he will tariff every vehicle coming across the border so much that they will move back to usa
@predpalina6 ай бұрын
Dealership greed backed by Toyota itself!
@2009polostar6 ай бұрын
It should the other way around. A discount for having them built in Mexico.
@fromscla58836 ай бұрын
Going to be honest I prefer my Tacoma to be build in Mexico than USA. Car manufacturer unions are crap and it reflects on quality.
@jaymontange82606 ай бұрын
San Antonio plant has pride. They took the assembly of the Tacomas away.
@barrettwalker52946 ай бұрын
We need to send a message to Toyota. You can KEEP your 2024 Tacoma’s!
@bluecruiser20196 ай бұрын
And 4Runners and Land Cruiser (Lites) AKA Prados.
@burntvirtue6 ай бұрын
Why did you use an apostrophe to pluralize a word?
@foxgood6 ай бұрын
And what answer are you going to give to Honda which sells as expensive as Toyota ?
@providentpathfinders2196 ай бұрын
you send them that message! you tell em good! 😂😂😂
@Keefer246 ай бұрын
@@foxgoodI saw a brand new ridgeline black for sale at a dealer ship in my area of PA for 43k fully loaded, the base price for a trd pro Tacoma is 65k basic trims I see for 50+. Put the pipe down 😂🤡
@garyfernandez85135 ай бұрын
Toyota taking the V-6 out of the Tacoma and the V-8 out of the Tundra was a HUGE mistake.
@Orion2023.5 ай бұрын
Exactly! They have no idea what America wants! I want a 6-cyl diesel pickup and or a diesel land cruiser with a solid front axel. Independent suspension sucks.
@bryancopeland25405 ай бұрын
And no one wants half electric as well!
@fwungy42855 ай бұрын
Toyota doesn't want to use them. It's the Feds forcing emissions rules on them. Toyota sells $10k pickups in the developing world that people would happily buy in the US if they could, but the Feds won't allow it.
@tacotue4eva6775 ай бұрын
As a 2020 Tacoma owner , the 3.5 is a gutless motor and gets subpar gas mileage too. It has to be tuned to have any type of power. Jmho
@rocketpigrecords37195 ай бұрын
@@fwungy4285wrong. Toyota itself said it won't import the Thailand meme truck, because it would decimate Tacoma sales. And, what are we here talking about? Tacos that cost more than an SS or GT.
@herbertsungahid5 ай бұрын
America should get rid of dealers that do price gouging and let the people buy directly from the manufacturer.
@JoeCool8205 ай бұрын
💯
@awdobsession7175 ай бұрын
Tesla does that but a lot of Teslas are sitting on lots and not selling. I guess the EV thing was mostly hype….
@johnlocke34815 ай бұрын
Dealers keep people from buying unless they absolutley have to. The dealer model has lowered sales simply by existing. It's such a nightmare process people avoid it at all cost.
@josedehoyos35345 ай бұрын
exactly ..
@Electricslam775 ай бұрын
This corporate greed all started with COVID… Supply was down, demand was way up. This is not the case anymore… Yet these scum bag dealerships want big dollars for inferior trucks. NO THANKS!
@aarsenalfan6 ай бұрын
$10K is not enough, more like $25-30K I'm glad people are not buying.
@LiquidSm0ke6 ай бұрын
At least 20 grand
@Slammingutz6 ай бұрын
I love seeing people not buying overpriced trucks and cars. It’s about time the general population says “We have had enough price gouging and getting cheaper products for more money.” Go suck an egg @Toyota. I used to love your brand and was loyal but now you are just like any other American brand.
@Slammingutz6 ай бұрын
And and….the 4 cylinder turbo doesn’t get a significant MPG increase. I’m questioning the logic or the amount of greed that caused this horrible decision? It sounds like pure greed and a big middle finger to everyone who praised Toyota the past 4 decades.
@MuahMan6 ай бұрын
@@Slammingutz The crappy engines are because of the EPA. All the companies have to to do it. Still should be $35K loaded.
@luism81306 ай бұрын
@@MuahManthat’s just an excuse. These engines don’t save any gas, they are anemic. Tried to tow with this and see how many MPGs you get. You’ll be lucky to see 5
@selvinperdomo35096 ай бұрын
Not interested in buying a tacoma anymore..
@albetherechillin6 ай бұрын
Me too
@selvinperdomo35096 ай бұрын
@albetherechillin almost bought one a week ago. Told them keep it. They keep calling me told them 40 out the door..
@justing65946 ай бұрын
Same! They can keep them.
@crushbaseball42706 ай бұрын
It was funny when checking the comments for different Tacoma review videos with the prices of the Trd pro everyone just said they left to go look at the chevy Colorado after seeing the Tacoma prices
@selvinperdomo35096 ай бұрын
I'm about to get the trail boss..better package .
@pattiellen53396 ай бұрын
A $60,000 truck with a 4 cylinder engine worth about $1,000. Nope.
@rl85715 ай бұрын
Frontier with a naturally aspirated v6 is almost $30k cheaper. Does Toyota think tacoma owners just got a huge pay promotion? I plan on replacing my truck in the next two years so hopefully they would get their act together by then as those prices are out of range of practicality.
@@nofightingnolife7368 They also said Biden didn't dictate gas prices while shutting down drilling and refining.
@JohnConnor6366 ай бұрын
81k for a tundra!?! Holy shit
@Scientist_Salarian5 ай бұрын
Cars and Bids has had some ‘20-‘23 very well-equipped Tundras for 50-60 grand. That’s the way to go.
@mayowankenobi5 ай бұрын
@@Scientist_SalarianStill overpriced.
@blinkguy4ever5 ай бұрын
@@mayowankenobi tell me something thats not overpriced these days? A freaking corolla is about 30k.... inflation man
@pnichols85835 ай бұрын
Fuck them turbo’s
@stevendunnuck5 ай бұрын
Rather have a raptor
@joshuathomas49345 ай бұрын
The Tacoma was a reliable, simple truck for regular people. Now they are packed full of tech and features no one needs and are loaded with emissions crap. No thanks. Keep it.
@tomcurran84705 ай бұрын
Remember when the Japanese got into the US market with cheap mini pickups in the 1970s?
@Ceeewolf5 ай бұрын
Emissions crap? F you.
@rs10232 ай бұрын
Toyota definitely lost their way. The old simple compact trucks were built like tanks, economical, fun to drive and very capable.
@CapsuleCorpDude6 ай бұрын
These are not 50k trucks. I love that people are coming together and saying no with their wallets. Enough is enough from these greedy dealers.
@ladyhawk74085 ай бұрын
They kinda have no choice all the free money has come to a stop. These dealers don't seem to realize the stimi money Era is over.
@sponger045 ай бұрын
Oh so the dealers choose the MSRP that’s set by Toyota? Wow yeah that makes no sense.
@4670765 ай бұрын
TRD pro and trailhunter is 64k and 62k. For a midsize 😂I’m buying me a BMW M2, at least I can burn rubber and it’ll be fun.
@munozyoshi6 ай бұрын
It was my dream truck.... I'm not interested anymore. I bought my house 10 years ago for a little over 100k, no way this is worth almost half of that.
@luigivincenz38436 ай бұрын
A 2024 Corvette is $68K base. I'd rather save for the other 14K and get the Corvette because I know what it's worth. The 2024 Taco is just ridiculous.
@FJCTRD6 ай бұрын
The truck got announced last year, how would that make it your "Dream Truck?" 😂
@KiddAlways6 ай бұрын
@@FJCTRDthey meant overall. it's been around for decades. people can have a nameplate they alwaya wanted. you're for sure sure a few eggs short of a dozen. go back to playing video games
@KennyboyGM6 ай бұрын
You're not from California
@munozyoshi6 ай бұрын
@@KiddAlways exactly...
@mikeyID6 ай бұрын
Toyota isn’t getting my money. Toyota has let us all down Untamed
@johnstrand22476 ай бұрын
Same with GM and Ford.
@993mike6 ай бұрын
I’m a huge Toyota fan, having owned both Toyota and Lexus SUV’s, but when you add together a thrashy unrefined 4 cylinder engine, high prices and fading reliability, I’m likely to shop around to other brands where in the past I would not.
@MrXapheth6 ай бұрын
It's not Toyota...it is the American way to do business...
@bradhaines31426 ай бұрын
@@johnstrand2247 so youd rather get a dodge?!
@bigfootswatching99866 ай бұрын
@@993mike lol.........the other brands are all junks! If anything get a 2023 toyota or older! These new Turbo's are junk along with the Price hike!!
@Desertfox923085 ай бұрын
I bought a used '12 Tundra 4x4 double cab two years ago. It has the 5.7 and was under 90k miles for $25k. I have had ZERO issues.👍
@rs10232 ай бұрын
If you're going to buy a full sized truck....either buy one with a V-8 or an I-6 diesel. Keep the lawn mower engines that are totally unreliable.
@midnightrambler35836 ай бұрын
I bought my Tacoma TRD Off Road new in 2002 for $22K. I’m still driving it today and blue book is about $7K so I spent $15K to drive it 22years. That’s less than a $1000 a year. It has 180,000 miles and still runs like new.
@UntamedMotors6 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. I love hearing that! 💯
@droneworks63405 ай бұрын
Under powered v6 junk. I test drove one. rived to high just to get tq. No way
@JoeCool8205 ай бұрын
@@droneworks6340people buy tacomas for reliability plus they hold their value . Trust me I’ve had fords and Chevys and after 150k they turn into money pits!
@dhfox3225 ай бұрын
$22k in 2002 is worth about $38,343.84 today (May 2024). Still much less than the price tag on these overpriced 2024 models.
@henryanaya84593 ай бұрын
@@droneworks6340yeah I sold mine and got one that didn’t rev as high with more power, just breaks down every couple thousand miles
@Mike-dd8bd6 ай бұрын
Can’t believe Toyota has become such an expensive brand.
@jceess6 ай бұрын
@@10cpaul you can get some of the smaller Nissans for pretty low prices, if you're okay with being labeled a Nissan Driver
@dyates63806 ай бұрын
@@jceess I have a Tacoma and love it. I did have a Nissan Xterra and really liked that as well.
@Keefer246 ай бұрын
@@jceessThe frontier is better than this new Tacoma by a long shot. My buddy got a pro 4x a couple years back, it’s been solid for him. I can’t remember what he paid for it but I know it was way less than these Tacomas. Also still a naturally aspirated v6 getting the same gas mileage these are 😂
@darylhill94006 ай бұрын
The Porsche of pick ups! They hold their value unbelievably and they will be reliable, or Toyota will standby them
@robertwojtkiewicz33666 ай бұрын
When you honestly think about it , it’s not greedy Toyota’s corporation fault , it’s the dumb and uneducated customers fault who’s willing to pay this ridiculous prices , stop purchasing vehicles for 18 months all together and you’ll see how quickly they learn the lesson … the car market is about to crash by end of the year anyway … I strongly advise anyone NOT to purchase anything right now !
@Mike-Olds-16 ай бұрын
It’s really unfortunate that Toyota has put greed before quality and affordability.
@M85Iroc6 ай бұрын
I think that's the issue with all automakers today.
@pinoyrunningpenguin6 ай бұрын
It's not really Toyota that is pricing it this way. They have to pay carbon credits for this vehicle and its big when its a big vehicle like this.
@mayowankenobi5 ай бұрын
@@pinoyrunningpenguinWe need to stop these DUMB governments. Paying a carbon tax doesn't help the environment. Allowing innovation to happen with bureaucracy has ALWAYS led to the best advancements.
@UntamedMotors5 ай бұрын
That’s the unfortunate truth. =\ Toyota sold out to government subsidies and carbon credits… =\ it’s a shame.
@DannyFyffe6 ай бұрын
Glad to see you no longer sugar coating things. Your last several videos have been hard hitting. I agree with you 100%. The fan boys hate me, but I have been a Toyota owner for over 40 years. Longer than you've been alive. I haven't bought any since I bought my 21 Taco in April 21. So until this economy breaks and Toyota comes back to earth and acts decent again, they won't pull a dime from me. Keep up the good work on the videos.
@donaltemus35656 ай бұрын
I can’t even agree more with you. I cry out this and hope Toyota listens.
@DannyFyffe6 ай бұрын
@@donaltemus3565 They will not listen until the economy knocks everyone down. Then they will drop a majority of their vehicles 13K to 18K down. Right now, they have 15-20K profit built into things like Tundra's Tacoma's, Sequoia's, etc. When things get hard, they will try to get to their normal profit of around 2K. When it gets really hard, they will go for break even so the full 15-20K off and maybe slightly more just to survive. I have said this for a year now and I have been laughed at many times, but it will happen.
@BearPen5 ай бұрын
Agreed. My 2021 Taco, 4-cyl, 2 wd, access cab, 27 mpg for $26k is good enough. But probably the last Toyota I will buy. The dealers have ruined the brand.
@CatherineTisenchek5 ай бұрын
A $2,500 discount is nothing on a $50K truck. Insulting.
@BezmenovDisciple4 ай бұрын
Yep. That’s about $40 a month savings on a 60 month loan. What good is that gonna do you? Wouldn’t even fill your tank with that savings.
@SHODUUP6 ай бұрын
I was gonna get a Tacoma TRD PRO. But. Ranger Raptor here we come. V6. Cast iron block. Twin turbo. Killer exhaust setup. Nice interior.
@rhbowhunter6 ай бұрын
sorry to curse but toyota really fucked up these prices are just insane
@smokeylake67326 ай бұрын
The loss of the V6 for a 4 cyl is dumb.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN6 ай бұрын
@@smokeylake6732loss of the V6 plus the crazy prices are why I won't get another Tacoma...I have a 23 offroad right now.
@Bruce220276 ай бұрын
@@smokeylake6732reason: federal carbon credits
@Rhaspun6 ай бұрын
Companies are taking advantage of the price increases we had from the pandemic and the chip shortage. They've seen how much they can get away with and have kept the pedal to the medal when it comes to prices.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN6 ай бұрын
@@Rhaspun facts
@chrisyongchu6 ай бұрын
Why would I want a new car when I have a functioning car that is already paid off?
@OVERDINNER6 ай бұрын
Keep it. I just put a new engine in my full size pickup for $5K. Now I can drive it another 150,000 miles.
@Barneyrubble2416 ай бұрын
More and more people are saying the same thing. It's the GOLDEN AGE for auto mechanics.
@Barneyrubble2416 ай бұрын
@@OVERDINNER I will do the same if I need to. My old Silverado has 370k, but it's doing just fine.
@droneworks63405 ай бұрын
My cars are paid off when new too. This makes no sense. LOL
@juliomaldonado40285 ай бұрын
@@droneworks6340How new? Now many people can afford to just pay off brand new cars in full. That's impressive
@NeighbaNeighba6 ай бұрын
Tacoma sales will struggle for the following 3 reasons: 1. 4-Cylinder Engine 2. 4-Cylinder Engine 3. 4-Cylinder Engine
@robertwojtkiewicz33666 ай бұрын
I’m not paying $50k for basic looking 4 cylinder Mexican made Tacoma ! Just an idea of 4 cylinder truck it’s an absolute deal killer for me !
@ronvaughan80416 ай бұрын
@@robertwojtkiewicz3366 The 4 cylinder engines are what made them legendary with the reliability. The turnoff on these new ones is the turbo, as well as the price tag. People know that's a lot of headaches. I bought a '22 SR with the 2.7 when it was announced the end was coming.
@rl85715 ай бұрын
They bowed down to the climate change gods.
@robertwojtkiewicz33665 ай бұрын
@@rl8571I have 5 close friends who were very excited for new Tacoma , but after seeing in person and price increase they said they out , and they were die hard Tacoma fans ! Plus the that 4 cylinder sounds absolutely hideous !
@boyantrifonov5 ай бұрын
Porsche had bad sales with their Boxster with a 4 cylinder engine for a $70-80K car. So they added a 6 cylinder at the facelift. (even if the cost was close to $100K) Mercedes C63 AMG has almost no sales of their brand new $100K+ car with a 4 cylinder engine. But this one of the things about capitalism. Vote with your dollar. Lost sales will make them think. Plus Toyota is using a 6 cylinder engine in the new Lexus equivalent to the new Lan Cruiser. They have the technology.
@94Zero5 ай бұрын
Totally agree, I am not paying $60K for a 4 cylinder that IS NOT AS GOOD LOOING AS THE PREVIOUS GENERATION. You have a truck with good sales, good looking, and the leadership decides to gamble with that?
@barrya.62124 ай бұрын
The previous gen was garbage too....going up steep hills the engine will ping/ blow out blue smoke out of exhaust (burnt oil) and DIE! google and youtube it.... the rear differential whines....and even after software update the trans would still shift poorly. Ranger time!
@Katy-Did6 ай бұрын
I am hanging on to my 1992 Toyota SR5 4x4 extended cab (manual) pickup. Bought it new in 1991. Looks like new, works great (220,000 miles), and feels solid. Roll up windows. No computer screens. Simple truck. Toyota has to get back to basics! My next Toyota will be an old used one (if I can find one). No turbo.
@riseabove30825 ай бұрын
bet it has no power steering as well. Nice trucks btw but I do prefer some basics these days like power windows and locks and power steering.
@msgmak13796 ай бұрын
I can't imagine paying $50k for a tiny 4cyl pickup truck.....
@jdc36366 ай бұрын
47k for a 4Runner SR5 premium? That’s insane. I will keep my 2016 for 10 more years.
@BGood4966 ай бұрын
Totally 👍2017 4Runner TRD PRO. Not a single issue with it and I’m gonna drive it till the wheels fall off😀
@rickyaz86406 ай бұрын
They hold their value. No turbos, no fancy hybrid to breakdown, lousy gas mileage, it’ll run until the apocalypse
@tedbell44166 ай бұрын
Same here 2016 trail
@2009polostar6 ай бұрын
Remember, vehicles are depreciating assets. Keep and maintain your vehicle as long as you can. It's your car, not the bank's.
@dyates63806 ай бұрын
Same here. I have a 2018 Sport with only 36,350 on it, and it'll last me forever. Seriously, as I drive very little at this point. So glad I'm not in the market now.
@ChristopherWalkenPUA6 ай бұрын
Remember when the politicians said NAFTA would keep prices low? 🤣
@davidlorang76976 ай бұрын
They did keep wages lower!
@christopherfetterman59475 ай бұрын
The sales price hasn't happened yet
@JohnS-il1dr5 ай бұрын
When NAFTA happened jobs got outsourced like mad. We helped Mexico much much more than what we got in return.
@RequiemJr6 ай бұрын
I recently bought a '24 Tacoma TRD Off Road for 45k total with taxes. I haggled it down. Here in San Antonio the TRD Off Roads are selling fast and the Tacoma TRD Sport is selling slowly. The Tacoma SR5'S are selling way slower. I'm happy with my truck. It handles great. It looks great. I get a lot of compliments.
@saamilarson6 ай бұрын
To be fair to Toyota, a 1995 4runner SR5 had an msrp for $23000 roughly. In 2024 dollars, that’s $47,136. That 2024 4runner is within spitting distance.
@MitchPickelsimer6 ай бұрын
And that’s why I’m keeping my 1998 4Runner. It’s paid for and still runs great. I’d rather pay to maintain it than buy a computer on wheels.
@etfbit5 ай бұрын
does your '95 have a 4 banger too wiseguy - shrinkflation
@saamilarson5 ай бұрын
@@etfbit it certainly could have, although mine has the v6 option, and it still has about half the horsepower of the 2024. A 2017 ford f350 with a 6.7L cost more than a 2003 with a 7.3L. There’s a lot more to this than engine size.
@AutoEnthusiastJC6 ай бұрын
Roman from TFL said SR5s aren’t selling, because all of the customers are waiting for the higher trims. He is so out of touch.
@reecec84906 ай бұрын
He has too much to gain blowing Toyota
@marimashburn77966 ай бұрын
That’s why he gets the invite to all the events. He says what Toyota wants to hear!
@Richard573536 ай бұрын
Most of the people at TFL are out touch. Stopped watching they’re stuff years ago😂
@Yoyomanmanholla6 ай бұрын
Who tf is Roman
@MrRailroader036 ай бұрын
He’s a Toyota suck ass
@wagyu_killer6 ай бұрын
cheapest tacoma were used by the laborers in the past. but now it is not for the ordinary people.
@Jomonji6 ай бұрын
Cancelled my refundable deposit on a 24 Tacoma
@benjaminreed47815 ай бұрын
Bought a 2015 right before they switched to the “improved” 3.5L. Mine is a 4x4 SR5, extended cab, with the 4.0L and six speed manual. I got almost everything the TRD package offered except for the decals, which I’ve never been a fan of. I paid $32,500 and thought that was a bit steep. Ain’t no way I’d pay almost double that for a turbo four with a battery pack.
@gen-X-trader6 ай бұрын
Too much greed, when you look at the auto prices compared to 2019, these hikes are well beyond inflation
@DIOSpeedDemon6 ай бұрын
I want a Toyota truck Made in JAPAN- V-6 no batteries, and a great stereo. OR- A toyota HILUX CHAMP, sold out of INdia for the grand total of $13,000 US DOllars. We need the Champ in our American Toyota dealerships, it is the bomb of utilitarian Truck at a reasonable price.
@vis15126 ай бұрын
Sold out of India ??
@terryosowski81436 ай бұрын
I have one a ‘19 TRD Pro with all new aftermarket Fox suspension Kayskin leather interior 52K miles 3.5L V6 normally aspirated. And is PAID FOR!!!
@speedsterspeedy21466 ай бұрын
Basically Toyota is including the mark up into the msrp!!
@mindfullymellow23236 ай бұрын
Was looking at a Corolla Cross, sticker $30,900. OTD with stupid markup and “upholstery protection” = $39,500. Ran to Mazda and got a great deal on a CX-5.
@SiXiam6 ай бұрын
The real question is why are they even in the 50's? Should just raise them to 80k or higher. Not like lowering the price to 40k is going to make a lot of lower range salary people come out to buy. They made the decision that only higher income people can afford their trucks. Dealers don't even order many base models.
@iiiiii76805 ай бұрын
Frontier is sounding so much better. 3.8 Naturally Aspirated V6 with hydraulic steering. Those 2 alone make me want the frontier over the tacoma
@UntamedMotors5 ай бұрын
Yeah if I was in the market for a midsize pickup, I’d for sure snag a Frontier over the Tacoma.
@richardpena72755 ай бұрын
My 2018 Tacoma’s A/C evaporator started leaking, and then noticed an oil stain around the front timing cover seal. I only had 125k miles on it. After seeing that the new Tacoma only has a turbocharged 4 cylinder sealed the deal for me not to get one. I bought a 2023 Frontier instead.
@marcusvaldes4 ай бұрын
If you think you are going to get better reliability with Nissan, that's super hopeful in my opinion.
@Jay-bw3fl6 ай бұрын
Record profits since 2020 tells me it isn’t inflation it’s G R E E D.
@FullsendOffroad6 ай бұрын
Maybe. I've seen every manufacturer do this, besides, everything has gone up in price, not just cars, so it is inflation.
@raymondhumphrey27496 ай бұрын
Absolutely Right...
@Jay-bw3fl6 ай бұрын
@@FullsendOffroad don’t be naïve
@minipandora226 ай бұрын
💢 J O E B I D E N 💢
@Sam-dq7ws6 ай бұрын
Since plandemic scam
@donthesheek6 ай бұрын
Low balling for high demand quality trade in value models while they increase prices for new models. If you've got a nice rig keep it, let them eat cake.
@ttown9186 ай бұрын
Bought a 2020 SR5 4Runnner Premium in summer of 2020 for about $38K. Now it's $47K+. Nuts.
@sprint26486 ай бұрын
Bidenomics!
@irked49756 ай бұрын
I'm sitting in my brand new 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4x, fully loaded. V6 and made in America. I love it. These are the reasons I went to Nissan.
@teddyruxspin84805 ай бұрын
nissan is junk
@irked49755 ай бұрын
@teddyruxspin8480 cool story bro.
@thenaturalmidsouth95365 ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy ANY Nissan passenger car or Infiniti, however, I'd seriously look at that Frontier if I wanted a new small truck. Toyota is really screwing up their brand. Good thing is, there are a lot of lower mileage Toyotas out there.
@barrya.62124 ай бұрын
The transmission has problems on that.... I guess the engine is great / still great.......
@gregslingerland72924 ай бұрын
A lot of you guys don't understand that the frontier doesn't have the same transmission they put in cars.
@krich75816 ай бұрын
This is why I will be holding onto my 2017 Tacoma forever
@nickcheema9076 ай бұрын
Wait for the "Chimichanga Edition" for $70,000
@yourmanzach23076 ай бұрын
is that real? soundslike a joke but I wouldn't doubt it
@JA-zh5xi6 ай бұрын
Looks like you need to go feed Tina!
@outbackeddie6 ай бұрын
I am holding out for the enchilada addition at $100,000
@rjs29746 ай бұрын
Guacamole green (formerly luna rock) color option adds 6,500.
@battleborn45905 ай бұрын
😂 LMAO
@bobbyb.17436 ай бұрын
Nissan Frontier, 300 HP, naturally aspirated V6, made in the USA, $47K. They look pretty good too! Ref. Scotty Kilmer’s recent endorsement.
@lamadden75125 ай бұрын
I’m gonna go look at it
@jonthemortician5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't pick up a new Nissan if you gave it to me for free. I've had two, and they were HORRIBLE. Major repairs and recalls within the first year on both.
@bobbyb.17435 ай бұрын
@@jonthemortician thanks for that Johnathon, great to know. Ive never owned one, but on paper it looked to be a viable alternative. However, your real-world experience of ownership tells me otherwise. Will steer clear of the Nissan. 👍🏻
@woodardkingsbury16485 ай бұрын
Lmao only 47k what a savings 😂
@daywalker40295 ай бұрын
@@bobbyb.1743 know plenty of people with 3rd gen frontiers and they haven't had any issues with them. my coworker has 45k miles on his 2022 and hasn't had any issues.
@RobertHeineman-vs2uv5 ай бұрын
Funny how people are slamming on a 4 cylinder. The best engine Toyota has ever built was the 22R
@stagalgiz10975 ай бұрын
I got a 2024 Chevy Silverado 1500 with the inline 6, 3.0 Duramax turbo diesel for $54,120.00 at White's Mountain in Casper. Just a standard LT, 4x4 with heated front seats, heated steering wheel, 13.4" infotainment system. Sticker price was $61,026.00. Hasn't used any oil, despite what I heard online, used about 2 gallons of DEF in 1800 miles (I got it with 61 miles on the ODO). Toyota was my second choice because a Ram 1500 was not an option and the F-150 XLT's at Greiner in Casper start at $70,000 and climb, for an XLT half ton! Glad I stuck to my Chevy
@yl0037606 ай бұрын
Ppl don’t like turbo and overpriced cars.
@Andrew-862276 ай бұрын
People like turbos…just NOT in a 4cylinder Tacoma.
@Skip84596 ай бұрын
They’re overworked engines in whatever they’re in. They don’t last as long as a NA engine.
@bondobilly93696 ай бұрын
@@Skip8459 moat don't tow or haul, a turbo 4 is a good choice. If you're going to actually use it as a mini pickup, get a ranger or bare bones 150/0 for the same price
@locker13256 ай бұрын
I don't want a turbo 4 banger in my premium prices truck either.
@droneworks63405 ай бұрын
I love turbo cars and trucks speak for yourself. LOL
@Lowbrass646 ай бұрын
I have read comments from some people defending this pricing as being commensurate with inflation. Perhaps, however unless income rises similarly, it’s a moot point because people can’t afford these.
@josealeguinea6 ай бұрын
Of course. Raptor for $57k and the frontier pro4x for way less… the reliability excuse can only go so far. Cheers untamed!
@Wxman91236 ай бұрын
Raptor might be $57k but you won't find one for that price much less it being available.
@BGood4966 ай бұрын
@@Wxman9123Agreed
@postalchaos6 ай бұрын
@@Wxman9123You’re right about dealer markups for the Raptor, however there’s going to be markups on the TRD Pro as well.
@LiquidSm0ke6 ай бұрын
I think the frontier will be pretty reliable
@davidwethington93206 ай бұрын
@@Wxman9123 If you order it, no mark up.
@Kro_man_tx6 ай бұрын
Ford couldn't make the Maverick fast enough between 20 and 30 grand, but even those have gotten out of hand, now in the upper 20's to mid 40's in essentially 2 model years.
@gustavojuarez28625 ай бұрын
Mexico has 42 car makers in the country with around 500 different models being produced there. Its one of the best industries for automotive manufacturing. Whats wrong with that? I understand the sentiment due to less jobs in the USA but offshoring has been ongoing for decades. Newsflash, Toyota is not the only car manufacturer moving their assembly lines to Mexico. Companies like BMW, Ford, Teslas have all done this. Offshoring to Mexico was primarily triggered by the tariffs on China.
@williamc73675 ай бұрын
Mexico is the "New" China.
@PerschMotorsports5 ай бұрын
Triggered by unions not china. No cars have ever been made in china!
@iramirez950205 ай бұрын
Big corporations save on tariffs and labor in Mexico but still doesn't reflect on the sale price.
@adamculjak36275 ай бұрын
Ya they save money in Mexico on labor and then raise the price on us by 15k from last year. You don't see the problem with that? It's a mid size truck that's priced between 50-70k after dealer markups.
@deantrainr6 ай бұрын
Hey Untamed, I just test drove a 2024 Tacoma trd off road today and other than the new 8 speed gearbox, I wasn’t impressed. The initial throttle response (low range) was impressive but when I floored the throttle to get on the freeway, I wasn’t impressed compared to the 3rd gen V6 powerband. Noticed the cheapness of the interior with more cheap plastic than the previous gen Tacoma. The hood I could see vibrate on the rear of the hood closest to the windshield on the drivers side and again, the truck literally felt like a four cylinder that was out of juice when I got on it at freeway speeds. I know advocates like TRDJon, robmotive, and the TFE crew (among others) rant and rave about how infinitely superior it is to the “old gen” 3rd gen Tacoma but I’m not feeling or agreeing with their enthusiasm about this new platform. I guess I’m not drinking the same Toyota Kool-aid as they are, nor am I politically obligated to the Toyota higher ups as well. Love my 2022 3rd gen TRD PRO Tacoma and maybe I’d change my tune if they dropped the price(s) to a realistic MSRP but I know I’d be drinking the Toyota “Kool-aid” ad well. 😳
@Slammingutz6 ай бұрын
I agree with you. The seats and interior are cheap. The engine is gutless when you attempt to merge onto the freeway. It’s an all around overpriced cheap (Mexico built) bait and switch from the old Toyota trucks.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN6 ай бұрын
Those big guys like TrdJon won't say anything negative...they care about making money...they could care less about getting the truth out.
@deantrainr6 ай бұрын
@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN Very true indeed. I know they aren’t gonna sabotage the bed there sleeping in per se but users like TrdJon opinions seem artificial and “fake” to me; which is an annoyance in reality.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN6 ай бұрын
@@deantrainr they seem fake because they are fake. As far as TrdJon goes, he's an idiot, he traded in his 22 Pro for a 24 Offroad...how stupid can someone be..
@JA-zh5xi6 ай бұрын
They need to come down about 30%.
@robertwojtkiewicz33665 ай бұрын
They will as soon as people stop buying their overpriced Mexican cheaply build Tacomas
@dethtour5 ай бұрын
@@robertwojtkiewicz3366they're probably made better in mexico. Americans are lazy and have bad work ethic. My issue just comes down to p4oce with what you're paying for an sr5 tacome with the trd off road you're better off buying a tundra sr with 4x4 like the base model it ends up being cheaper
@cpk2GIRL6 ай бұрын
4 banger over-priced Mexican truck w/ a Toyota label? NO MORE!!!
@cletusvandamme62626 ай бұрын
G-R-E-E-D.
@alxdava20046 ай бұрын
Factories work the same way.
@shanes4816 ай бұрын
@@alxdava2004 I prefer to support my fellow American's. My ridgeline was built in the USA.
@jamesgullo82406 ай бұрын
I love that KZbin ran a Nissan Frontier ad at the beginning of the video!
@TFBITRCY4 ай бұрын
Bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma and was very much surprised by how under powered the vehicle is. Had planned to use it to tow a trailer but will only be able to use it with a very small/light trailer. Have to step on the gas on even a moderate hill incline. Disappointed.
@tedbell44166 ай бұрын
I'm old enough to remember the 1988 Toyota truck. It had a EFI engine good ac with R12 in it you would freeze with it. You could buy them for $7500 brand new made in Japan. Now look at Toyotas 50k for a Mexican Tacoma.
@zachsamay20266 ай бұрын
Yup was trying to get one of those around 2008-2009 for my first vehicle. Obama took a dump on us with cash for clunkers. You could get a nice one for around $3500 at that time. Couldnt afford one at the time so I bought a sedan, figured Id wait till the prices came down. Looks like I'll never own my dream vehicle. Or maybe any of its decendents either. If Toyota keeps this crap up the 2015-2023 model is gonna be selling for $35k for the next 30 years on the used market. I mean i can theoretically afford it now but just on principle I dont want to pay that much for a vehicle with 200k miles on it
@TC-iz5hr6 ай бұрын
I bought a 1988 4X4 back then for a little over $10K. I had to trade it in for a sedan a couple years later for personal reasons, which is my most regretted vehicle transaction ever. It was my favorite vehicle of all time.
@rf47906 ай бұрын
I've had 4 Tacoma's since 2005. I am on my last one. They lost me as a customer over pricing, and these changes to the engine. Yes yes, more power etc. But not for me.
@tedbell44166 ай бұрын
Me either it's just gotten so ridiculous I'm not buying a house it's a damn mid size pickup truck
@fwungy42855 ай бұрын
Feds are forcing this with emissions and efficiency rules. Toyota sells $10k pickups in the developing world that Americans would love to buy, but we aren't allowed. Feds.
@kevinalli55636 ай бұрын
This crazy pricing is going to end up benefitting Nissan for sure. For $43k you can get a Frontier Pro4x with a V6.
@patzguitarz4 ай бұрын
I've had 2 Tacomas - a 2006 and currently have a 2012. I'll never buy one with the garbage 4 cyl. turbo. I'd rather pay a premium for a used Tacoma with the natural aspirated 6 cyl. than buy a new 4 cyl. one.
@ocean126 ай бұрын
I built a 2021 tacoma at the end of 2020. TRD 4 x 4. 6' bed. V6. 6 speed manual. Tono cover. Running boards. Mud flaps. Total cost including fees $38 K Glad i got it when i did. If you are fine w 4 cylinders, you want a car, not a truck. Its useless.
@clintperry7996 ай бұрын
The 4 banger turbo motor looks like spaghetti nightmare ! I'll pass .
@jdrules236 ай бұрын
Too expensive. Gen 6 4runners likely to top over 70k. Those will sit, too. All old gen tundra, tacoma, gen 5 4runners values will go up due to new gens having massive price increases.
@UntamedMotors6 ай бұрын
Man that’s just crazy to even think about… a $70K 4Runner. Doesn’t even feel right saying it out loud haha 😂
@5thLegion6 ай бұрын
Nissan Frontier is the best midsize on the market right now
@justing65946 ай бұрын
I would buy one tomorrow if they made then in a manual shift.
@ewxlt6 ай бұрын
$44k for a new frontier crew cab. No thanks!
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN6 ай бұрын
@@ewxlt35k for them in my area...and Pro4x's for 39/40k
@Eric721.6 ай бұрын
It was actually voted in the 10 worst by consumer reports
@5thLegion6 ай бұрын
@@Eric721. bout as reliable as CNN. Ford, Dodge and Chevy have the top 10 worst on lockdown
@nate021672 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 Tundra Platinum. Its been bulletproof. Only ever gone to the dealership for the once a year oil change. This thing is mint.
@jdwalker8654 ай бұрын
Has Toyota come up with a fix yet for the metal shavings found in the 2024 4-cylinder tacoma engines?
@alvaritoesquivel8756 ай бұрын
I bought a Ford Ranger built in Tennessee and 10k cheaper with side boards, big digital screen and 7K lbs of towing capacity
@droneworks63405 ай бұрын
I have the Ranger also love the turbo I have the Tremor lariat. I test drove an older taco with that V6 what a POS it was. Too slow and no power unless it got to 8k rpm.
@JoeCool8205 ай бұрын
I’ve owned fords and they all sucked! I rather have an older Tacoma then be found on road dead😂
@richardlee26425 ай бұрын
My '24 Ranger Lariat was about $2500 cheaper than a comparable Tacoma TRD Sport. I was a tough decision: I wanted the 6-speed manual transmission and power moonroof, neither of which is available in a Ranger.
@barrya.62124 ай бұрын
@@JoeCool820 With the exception of the 2017-2020 F150's ecoboosts........ALL other Ford 2.7, 3.5 ecoboosts and 5.0 V8 coyotes are solid long lasting engines and blow away in every way the new Tundra with it's 3.5 twin turbo.....COMPLETE WITH FAILING CRANK BEARINGS UNDER 10k miles !
@JasonExplainsThings6 ай бұрын
I'm glad I got my 4Runner in 2021 ($41K) and Tacoma in 2022 ($43K). Holding on to both indefinitely.
@UntamedMotors6 ай бұрын
Nice! Good move 👌 💯
@hermanpeters5495 ай бұрын
My 2021 4 runner was $30k
@TheAverageFisherman996 ай бұрын
Auto makers have jacked up the prices on trucks by 35-40% in the last 4-5 years. The trd off-road force max is over $65,000. Absolutely INSANE for a Mexican-built truck. Nissan will be my next new truck, and even THOSE are too expensive. Toyota has lost a loyal customer with their price gouging.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN6 ай бұрын
I'm done with Toyota too. My 23 Tacoma Offroad will be my last. If I trade it in, it will be for a Frontier.
@ronaldwaller47325 ай бұрын
I bought a brand new ford f150 5 years ago and had to replace the wheel bearings, water pump, thermostat all before I owned it for 3 years🙁. Just bought a new tundra Iforcemax 6 months ago with ZERO problems! The quality is soooooo much better!
@UntamedMotors5 ай бұрын
Dang, I’m sorry to hear you had a tough time with your F150. Glad you’re having a much better ownership experience with the Tundra! Congrats.
@mekalis696 ай бұрын
I have a 2000 4runner limited with 200,000 miles on it that I still love to drive. I would rather put $400 to $600 a year in maintenance and repairs than pay out the $ss for a new Tacoma.
@Aaron504126 ай бұрын
You are witnessing the end of the automotive industry. Find your local bicycle shop.
@justsayin36006 ай бұрын
In 2023 I bought a Specialized Stumpjumper Evo Pro. It was on sale for 6.3k. After a few pre-purchase add ons, out the door 7.1k. Bikes ain't cheap these days either.
@heavycream66826 ай бұрын
*online bicycle shop. Honestly I'm think many low-income folks will be commuting on electric bikes im already starting to see it. Some get 90 miles a charge.
@WayneWatson16 ай бұрын
It's why the used market is so crazy
@JoeCool8205 ай бұрын
Or motorcycle
@randallsmith78855 ай бұрын
The bicycle industry is doing the same thing as the auto industry. Prices shot up during covid. Then the manufacturers over produced bikes and put prices up. Now they are all swimming in inventory. Bike companies are starting to feel the pain.
@TWINTURBOTOYOTA6 ай бұрын
I paid 55k for my fully optioned out 22 trd off road Tundra. These Tacoma’s should be 30k.
@SLHJR03906 ай бұрын
I’m looking at the same right now. 56k off road premium tundra crewmax , 6.5 ft bed … 56k. I don’t know why one would even consider a Tacoma considering
@BabakPA6 ай бұрын
These trucks are meant for the rich KZbinrs who have no intentions of keeping them for a long time and are just buying them to get the footage for their videos! Thanks for the video
@marklihsu6 ай бұрын
Yeah just boycott the KZbinrs with tacos and they will be forced to sell it because they are counting on KZbin to pay for the taco.
@Slappy-wf8wz5 ай бұрын
Toyota Motor Corporation gouging the customer. I've been a Toyota guy for 40 years but no more.....I'm done.
@UntamedMotors5 ай бұрын
You’re definitely not alone in feeling that way man. =]
@Eurofilth5 ай бұрын
I got my 2020 TRD Off-road for like 42k with every feature except the fancy climate control. They want 55k for the same thing on the new model. That's WILD.
@passthetunaporfavor6 ай бұрын
My son was in the market for a new truck. He originally wanted a Tacoma. He saw the prices and pretty much said nope. He ain't poor working as an engineer for a Fortune 500 company.
@edhcb93596 ай бұрын
He should get into sales. He could afford one of these Tacomas if he did!
@pinoyrunningpenguin6 ай бұрын
That's why you need to stop buying a truck if you only go to work in a nice air-conditioned office. sitting in a nice chair. A truck is meant for farmers, miners, tradesmen, mechanics, plumbers, etc. It is for people who need it not for people who just want a truck just because they got money
@edhcb93596 ай бұрын
@@pinoyrunningpenguin I love driving my $80k truck to my office wearing my freshly ironed Carhartt clothes and Redwing boots. I don’t do blue collar work. It doesn’t pay enough.
@bettysmith45276 ай бұрын
@@pinoyrunningpenguin Um, I use mine on the regular for home chores, and do not use it for "work". If you own a SFH having a truck is priceless!
@frankleespeaking95196 ай бұрын
$50,000 for a truck and they put a prop rod under the hood.
@UntamedMotors6 ай бұрын
Haha right!? Sums it up well.
@pzadach6 ай бұрын
The thing that floored me is that on a loaded TRDOR you get a little plastic skidplate in the front and a temporary spare tire.
@bodyguard58796 ай бұрын
The reason for lack of sales is because Tacos are first year models and prices are out of control.
@indycharlie6 ай бұрын
And Turbo's !
@Slammingutz6 ай бұрын
And and turbo 4 Cylinder and the cheap seats….the seats are noticeably cheaper and less supportive. Don’t take my word for it, go sit in a new taco….the interior is cheaper.
@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN6 ай бұрын
@@Slammingutzthose new interiors look like shit
@auggieoutdoors33256 ай бұрын
I still have the original window sticker for my 2003 V8 4runner limited 4x4 ($40,400). That's the equivalent of nearly $69k today. So prices aren't totally out of whack. Rather, the build quality and materials have declined
@sarge21325 ай бұрын
We went out to try and trade for a Tacoma TRD Offroad and none of the dealers were willing to move on price. After seeing a 53k one in person, it's crazy how expensive they are for so few options. You have to go for the 56-58k mark to get the features you'd expect around 50k
@kenjohnson9616 ай бұрын
Nissan Frontier V6 gas is the new king.
@bluecruiser20196 ай бұрын
Thanks for calling Toyota out. They have totally gone the wrong direction☹️🤷♂️
@speedsterspeedy21466 ай бұрын
Yup that tfL Tacoma broken axle spoke volumes. Overprice and unreliable- I’ll pass and stick with my 4R lunar rock TRD pro 21 with the untamed starter kit- WD k02 285’s. It’s the best
@rayskillings75066 ай бұрын
It is all about the motor for me. I want a V6 not a turbo 4 cylinder. Made in Mexico is not a selling point. The frame rusting issue from Toyota is still fresh in my mind. Toyota needs to rethink who the customer is.
@marcusvaldes4 ай бұрын
I've bought nothing but Toyotas the last 35 years. I think my next vehicle will be something else. I'm not into smaller displacement turbos.
@Texas_G_Longhorns6 ай бұрын
Toyota really took a big shit on its customers. With the Ram RHO coming in at $69,995 why would you get a mid size TRD Pro when you can get a full size with much more capability
@JA-zh5xi6 ай бұрын
Not saying the Tacoma price is reasonable but let’s face it - anyone who values quality would take the Tacoma - it will run circles around the for 20 years. Rams have by far the worst quality on the market.
@Texas_G_Longhorns6 ай бұрын
@@JA-zh5xi I agree with you to a certain point about the reliability part. How often are people actually keeping these vehicles though.
@Gary654376 ай бұрын
I'm doing my part. I'll never buy one of these super expensive, low quality Toyota products put together with plastic and felt.
@Warbeaver6 ай бұрын
Yah, I used to be a Toyota guy. Not anymore. Tired of seeing them selling 2018 4Runners for the same price they sold as if they were new. Incredible.
@danreed885 ай бұрын
Great video, you hit nail on the head!Thanks!
@UntamedMotors5 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton man!
@iflylo15285 ай бұрын
The tumbleweed under the bumper of the silver Tundra says it all.... Maybe add a sign swaying in the distance and a door slamming open and shut in the wind..... hahahaha
@lgbnz6 ай бұрын
Tacoma has already proven to be unreliable as well. See TFL blow their diff
@tedbell44166 ай бұрын
Yeah boy that was a huge red flag
@brontoab16 ай бұрын
I don't know how most states calculate excise tax but in Maine, the excise tax is based on MSRP. So MSRPs need to come down for people in Maine. Incentives only help at point of sale. We are stuck with a higher excise tax for life because of the MSRP. So screw incentives, drop MSRPs.
@richardwillis80836 ай бұрын
Toyota executives need to monitor these sites and listen to what the people are saying.
@SLHJR03906 ай бұрын
They do and are
@JohnS-il1dr5 ай бұрын
@@SLHJR0390they do and don't care.
@N.California6 ай бұрын
I have a 16 Outback I bought new, it's paid off, low milage 60k over 8 years @ 7500 mi/yr and I have no intentions on buying a new rig for $45k-$55k for $600-$675 payments per month. The prices are crazy and until people make a stand this will not change.
@brianfritts43054 ай бұрын
I have a paid off 2014 TRD with the 4.0 V6 and Tow package....not getting new one anytime soon.