Strengths and Weaknesses for EVERY Admech Unit - Adeptus Mechanicus Codex Tactics

Let's talk Admech. Let's talk ALL the Admech!
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0:00 Intro
1:10 Troops
5:36 Transport
6:35 Heavy Support
9:50 Elites
17:17 Fast Attack
24:42 Flyers
28:13 HQs
34:14 Forge World Units

[@auspextactics]

CORRECTION: Kataphrons have a Tracked Mobility special rule that allows movement through breachable terrain. Sorry, forgot about that one!

[@ericwolf9664]

The belleros energy cannon didn't loose ap it lost str....

[@WinterWizard7]

Does this change your rating of the unit? :)

[@ninjalord3]

When talking about the Electro Priests what is the "Fights-last" stratagem you were talking about?

[@zanefrag8269]

Ur025 anything

[@damo7525]

I like this format of rating every unit in a faction. Would love to see also other Factions Rating

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

I know he is considering making those, but it does take a LONG time he said. He works super hard, and I am surprised his channel doesn't have more views.

[@Postpar]

I'm painting up my combat patrol box to start my admech army and this helped me a great deal in deciding what direction I am wanting to go with my unit choices

[@TheNotreally18]

I am shocked, but very pleased, that someone somewhere has finally acknowledged the existence of my beloved but underwhelming secutarii hoplites.

[@mikepapp9084]

Secutarii Peltasts & Hoplites are where it's at!

[@Sycronos]

I'd say for Dragoons I'd bump them up to an 8/10, they didn't need core nearly as much as Ironstriders did to be effective, all they needed was chain taser protocols and they even have access to a +1A strat in a Veteran Cohort since it doesn't need core. A weakness for them though is any kind of damage reduction kinda blunts them but they can still put out a solid amount of damage due to the sheer number of high strength decent AP attacks they can put out. I really think Sulphurhounds are seriously getting slept on. They might be a touch overpriced by 1-2 pts and while they might not have the utility Raiders have they vastly outdamage them and are also an excellent screen due to their speed and dangerous overwatch. They're also lowkey excellent targets for wrath of mars, even better than Sterylizors actually due to having more guns and better flamers and due to rad saturation and all their pistol weapons they're not afraid of being up close either. Personally I rate them about as good as Sterylizors, you trade some utility and fly with them for better damage and durability and I think it's a decent trade off. Also for the technoarchaeologist, he can let ANY core unit shoot while doing actions, not just Kataphrons. I'd probably rate him slightly higher as well.

[@auspextactics]

Yeah, certainly fully agree on the Dragoons. Could have happily put them at an 8, they are solid.

[@0XFallen]

IMO bad target for wrath of mars, all they have is huge damage output within 12". You are gonna melt them anyway, if they survive charge them.

[@ninjahpaco89]

This is extremely helpful since I'm still pretty new to the game as a whole with admech being my army. I love the extra commentary, thank you!

[@Sycronos]

@@0XFallen Sterylizors also only have a range of 12". Both units can move 12" and while Sterylizors can deep strike Sulphurhounds have access to Dunestriders for auto advance 6" and able to fire all their weapons with no penalty to make up for it. They outdamage Sterylizors easily in any case.

[@MegaGlassguy]

Another problem with Secutarii currently is that the Dunerider specifies that it can only carry models and the Secutarii don't have that keyword, meaning the only viable transport method for them at the moment is the Termite Drill.

[@matthewryan7775]

Love this vid! It seems the community soured on the Datasmiths, but they're pretty good. Try comparing one to a Deathwing Apothecary and you'll start to notice how much utility they bring.

[@ratbaby3107]

"BS 4+ is very vulnerable to modifiers" Yeah, it sure would suck if your entire shooting army was suddenly relegated to 4+

[@dyciefisk2535]

If Kill Team is anything to go by then come the codex markerlights may not need to even roll to hit

[@dunkerbunker2501]

How the fuck did you guess that…

[@borisdorofeev5602]

Such unique looking models. The concepts and designs are so well thought out and executed.

[@cuttygrass]

Super useful vid. My AdMech army is still quite small and I usually go with the rule of cool with what I pick, but this is excellent for thinking about where to go next

[@wobblybrian951]

With the Game Balance of November, what would you change within this analysis? Amazing content as always!

[@BurnsidesAP]

Only on the first unit, and I think you've made a mistake. Kataphrons have the "Tracked Mobility" rule which lets them move through Breachable terrain.

[@auspextactics]

Thanks, have posted a correction comment above. Apologies for the error, can't say I've used them a ton since the new dex dropped...

[@BurnsidesAP]

No worries! Thought I'd call that out for you so you can correct it while you're still in the comments :)

[@dan-phone4665]

@@auspextactics auspec the corpuscarii also have a mistake in their weakness list

[@Josh24861]

For the algorithm! For the channel!

[@jsizzlesaurusrex]

The admech need more options! There is no way they produce everything for the imperium and have so few options themselves.

[@renderscott]

agreed, the range could be expanded

[@Anttown123]

They need more big mechs cause its kinda in their name. Cause i like everything else tbh

[@candidlearner3191]

@@Anttown123 well, you can take a knight with your army without punishment, though they could lean into this a little more maybe even giving the knight some good synergies

[@tech-priestmr7824]

I just built some sulphurhounds, i should have seen this before, but at least they look so cool with the flamethrower in their face

[@Sycronos]

Sulphurhounds are low-key solid, while Raiders are more popular and have more utility sulphurhounds do a very respectable amount of damage and are excellent targets for wrath of Mars which helps them punch up against bigger targets.

[@Internetbutthurt]

Hey Auspex I like the way you do analysis videos and id like to see you do an analysis video of comparative faction strengths; essentially rating the handicap of each faction. (I'd personally like to see such a system devised and factored into competitive rankings)

[@hilow-rf7kk]

Awesome video man, would love to see an ork version!!

[@Ramza012]

Was just thinking about my admech list thanks!

[@TaRatTinCan]

I have my first GT in a week. A great timing for the refresh!

[@markobranisel4094]

Best admech source on youtube! You are manufactured with the omnissiahs blessings, becouse mere flesh cannot produce such amount of content!

[@AllTheStarsWereRed]

Very helpful! Thank you

[@SlurpeeBoy9999]

I'm building an AdMech army right now and needed a guide. The Omnissiah has answered my prayers!

[@TheMajorpickle01]

If you are starting with small battles ie 500 1000 pts, the robots are an 11/10. completely dominant and insane fun to use with teleports via lucius forgeworld

[@georgestauber2636]

Ok a guide: Get army. Blow enemy off table. Done. ADMech are just plain broken.

[@TheMajorpickle01]

@@georgestauber2636 Meh, they are only broken if you play meta lists to be fair. They are certaintly strong, but if you aren't at a tournament against a sweat they can be outplayed

[@georgestauber2636]

@@TheMajorpickle01 Rofl.

[@913buz]

Very helpful thanks

[@mrigank3855]

Its not that they dont have weaknesses its that theyre insanely costed for their buff stacking and strengths. Like if theyre bringing 2 models for each one of yours it doesnt even matter if they lose a few, theyll just kill you with the remaining ones given how efficient this army is.

[@felipearias5622]

They are indeed ridiculously costed, skitarii have absolutely no business costing 8 pts with what they can do. The fucking Onager tank is cheaper than a Predator without sponsons.

[@Cannonhead]

28:13 Wait, you can take Cawl in a non-Mars detachment? I thought that if an Hq had a specific chapter/craftworld/whatever, that you had to include it in a detachment of that kind. Is that not the case?

[@larrychin5238]

They changed this in the release of the 9th codex He just has a specific buff for Mars units

[@Cannonhead]

@@larrychin5238 Good to know, thanks!

[@spoonsrattling]

Kommandos with a breaching ram seem like a good way to beat up some ironstriders

[@1KosovoJeSrbija1]

Custom forgeworld and manipulus vanguard are my favorite thing, they get like range 24 inch assault 3 str 4 ap-2, its insane

[@alinare4958]

love ur vides u help me find units new to det hoby

[@vault4459]

Personally I felt the Secutarii (both variations) were rated a bit high, finding them to be more in the 5/6 range. Not having the CORE or keywords are big blows for a unit in an army that operates as AdMech does. Especially after the release of the Skitarii Veteran Cohort, they just lose hands down to their Skitarii brethren, as it gives the Skitarii nearly everything special about the Secutarii (with exception to the 3+ WS).

[@AnarexicSumo]

By the same logic, only infantry should be highly rated because nothing else can be taken in a veteran cohort. Obviously you have to look at them outside of that one very specific build.

[@bitrick7872]

Strength: Gun Weakness: None Anybody who says that destroyers are inefficient has never held the middle of the board all game with them. Grav+Flamers makes a hell of an overwatch, and the 3+ save was such an underrated buff

[@charles96541]

I recently finished 1500 points of admech and am working towards 2000; Haven't played many games with them yet so I'm glad to see some of my more jank cult mechanicus unit choices are still reasonable haha. I paint too slowly to chase the meta so I just want to perform respectably against my local meta.

[@felipearias5622]

You're playing admech, you'll do fine.

[@SarajevoKyoto]

With AdMech, the codex itself is the meta. They don't have a "bad" unit in the whole army, just "less overpowered".

[@charles96541]

Part of my concern was that I'm also running a knight lol. Love the flavor too much not to

[@Anoydamis]

In defense of the Kastellans: While I miss the double shoot, I feel running one Kastellan Phosphor Blaster and one Fist makes it a pretty balanced unit with deceptively good melee. I warn my opponents every time at the start of the game, but generally I put my Robots on an objective by teleporting with a Datasmith with Solar Flare (Lucius relic), use the Datasmith to start changing their protocols to shooting mode, and silently dare them to interrupt that action. Worst case scenario, I get a 3+ BS objective holder. Best case scenario, my opponent charges them, in which case I use Binaric Override to change them to fight mode, which is what I want. In general 4 attacks at 2+ WS, 10S, -3, 3 damage per model does a pretty good job at deleting whatever tries to charge them (and/or any tanks I feel might be a threat). The Datasmith (especially with his gun) isn’t much of a slouch either

[@anguscameron8152]

No invulnerable save in close combat really hurts them as being a durable combat threat

[@dan-phone4665]

Corpuscarii: High Toughness and well armored units Auspex: Weakness it is

[@sylvander4972]

Maby doing a new mechanicus teir list would be awesone

[@fernandocortez3113]

Quick question. Sorry if this is off-topic, I just started playing 40k and started with Admech. Does ADmech have any units with objective secured? I came across an old post that mentioned if your army is battleforged gains obsec. Is this still correct? Where can I find this info?

[@fernandocortez3113]

Just found the info Detachment abilities pg 49 of the Codex.

[@Rewand1134]

Is there one for Chaos Space Marines?

[@ChesyreFrog]

Can Kataphron still obsec? I had another player tell me that was changed recently.

[@derekh6962]

Yes. They're not infantry, but they're still troops, so they benefit from the Admech obsec.

[@Josh24861]

Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne!

[@philliphampton5380]

My biggest complaint for the Robots is their main Phosphor guns only being -1 for some reason when every other larger Phosphor weapon is -2. Just GW over nerfing again. Still, I have had good performances with them still.

[@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145]

Kataphrons learning that they have the "bike" keyword: "wtf! Those are my legs, asshole!" But I guess that's probably why they're servitors with no real capacity to think for themselves...

[@dylanwilson5010]

Can you do one for craftworlds?

[@darthender7783]

Thousand Sons next?

[@mattjohnston7879]

Please do Sororitas!

[@georgestauber2636]

What weaknesses? The main weakness is finding an opponent willing to play against you.

[@imagecollections6665]

Please rate the genestealer cult units. Thanks.

[@nemdenemam9753]

Which unit is supposed to be good against heavy armor? Castellan robots or ironstrider? Their lore feels like they should be awesome at dealing with heavy armor from range but their units don't seem like that. How is there no martian knight-like unit if they are the ones that are making every heavy walker in the imperium?

[@candidlearner3191]

There are knights that are from mechanicum aligned houses, and a rule where you can take one knight and not lose battleforged

[@dan-phone4665]

#AdmechFortification

[@Diamon_Boots]

Sadly I feel like you overvalued the secutarii a bit, mostly because they not only do they not have core and can't benefit from Forge World dogmas, but they also lack the Forge World keyword alltogether, meaning that very few thing in the codex can even interact with them in any way, including but not limited to not being able to use transports and not being targetable by the marshall's "negate doctrina penalty" effect. That said, hoplites are still a weird cheap kinda durable melee unit, and I think they do have a nieche (also giving them a temporcopia is not terrible), but I feel like peltasts don't do enough to set themselves apart from other units to compensate for all the drawbacks.

[@FlyingNinjaish]

Kastlens and Disentegrators aren't worth 7 and 8 respectively. Kastlens are underwhelming in shooting, being inferior to a much tougher and more autonomous Dunecrawler in a bad configuration for 5 points more, and melee bots need Solar Flare to get into range - they aren't tough or fast enough to walk up the board. And Dragoons are better if you're willing to work around that. Disentegrators don't kill anything, and are a tank lacking am invul. They're like a 5/10, getting maybe +1 for being the only source of indirect.

[@0XFallen]

True, although we can work around the indirect with planes, better than that sole belleros

[@FlyingNinjaish]

@@0XFallen that just makes the Disentegrator worse, though. Overall the video is just way too positive on the bad units.

[@zanefrag8269]

What about ur025 any info on him

[@SgtDax]

Geez, how many armies stole the 3d6 drop lowest charge from blood angels?

[@philipjohnson9215]

I am a new member of the tabletop fan-base. What does CORE unit mean?

[@MajinCanon]

Its a special status units have you will have to check each one to see if they are core world and what coreworld they are from to aply your buffs correctly

[@Commisar-General_Maugh]

Ya, im feeling point increases incoming.

[@styxer963]

Woop

[@bitrick7872]

I wish the other codexes were as fun to build/play as admech. My buddy plays necrons and he was feeling the codex creep even before the new admech codex came out. The layers of buffs and upgrades are a lot of fun and add a lot of intricacy, it just becomes overpowered when you compare it to the other factions lack of similar capabilities. Sterylizors are my favorite unit to upgrade, fall back + shoot/charge with a -1 to hit in melee will keep your opponent floundering and distracted while you do your other stuff

[@jarrettmaurice3070]

The Cybernetica Datasmith gives my Kastellans CORE He holy order LOGI commands them ignoring AP-2 and AP-2 Lucius warlord blessing makes them only wounded on 4+ The datasmith then uses the solar flare to deliver all their Massive Fists and Flamers wherever I want. I’ve lost only 3 big daddies in total in 5 games. Who else is ruining friendships with this mechanical bomb in game?

[@SWIFTO_SCYTHE]

How

[@codyd7841]

awesome video keep on keeping on if i ever had the money to support a patereon it would be yours :)

[@Josh24861]

Should I collect space marines?

[@filwilliamson9149]

Space marines will likely always be a good starter army since they’re the poster boys. You can make your army be good at almost any playstyle while still being decent at other stuff, and you’ll always be getting new models from GW. Also with their chapter/successor chapter system you have plenty of variety in both rules and paint jobs.

[@lars4349]

I knew it! Ruststalkers are strictly better melee priests!

[@Sycronos]

They're the best melee option ad mech has with a ton of ways to make them even more dangerous, they're more than capable of punching above their weight. As good as infiltrators imo, just in a different way.

[@lars4349]

@@Sycronos please enlighten me! How are melee priests the best option ^^ I have mine sitting right here. I would love to know how they are better then Ruststalkers.

[@Sycronos]

@@lars4349 sorry, I think I wasn't clear, I meant to say that Ruststalkers are our best melee option. Fulgurites are okay but they suffer against damage reduction and don't have as much support and synergies that Rusties have access to, Fulgurites really want to be Ryza for that +1 to wound and charge bonus as well. Sorry for the confusion.

[@lars4349]

@@Sycronos thats the problem im talking about. Ruststalkers are better melee priests in every way.

[@sylvander4972]

Hi! Can you please uptade this video :)

[@SarajevoKyoto]

They have weaknesses?

[@pepi560]

Idk man... Doesnt look like admech has any units at all that can deal with the new Gamebreakors...

[@user-rz7ih2vh1c]

Only flesh is weak.

[@lorenzo501stvisarch9]

what I think is that the troop units should cost much more than now... the Faction is too much powerful and efficient not because of rules/model...but for the too many cheap but strong units

[@Josh24861]

Algorithm comment

[@lukeit7949]

Strength: 1000000 Weakness: none

[@Chris-jl6vp]

Eeeeeh I still think a lot of points costs for these guys are too low. Ork boyz still cost more than both their main troops, and that just bites so freaking much.

[@Tzeeensh]

Ah yes, the "auto surrender" army.

[@m3ntal_c0re]

From a Lore perspective this faction seems so overpowered... And somewhat boring. Its like they dont really have a twist...like most of the other factions.