Stress Testing the Ultimatum! Helldivers 2

Buy it, and become bomb

[@doom3475]

You can’t convince me this isn’t launched by a spring

[@TheGundamBoi]

*roblox coil sounds*

[@submachinegun5737]

Normally something this size would be a grenade, but it’s not, and that’s because it’s too dense and thus heavy to throw. Why? Because it’s also too small for the explosion it causes, so it’s probably a miniature nuke, full of radiation shielding and nuclear material. So the launcher and explosive charge that gives it more force than a throw is basically required to give it even its small 50m range. That’s my head canon reason for it at least.

[@coffeeflavored8530]

Super PIAT

[@JensEricksen]

Close enough, welcome back Projector, Infantry, Anti-Tank

[@George_M_]

The PIAT could hit at 100 feet. This thing is launched by a rubber band. Also the spring in the piat was for recoil management - the thing was actually a mortar.

[@miguelcorreia6777]

this has gotta be the dumbest fucking weapon they've ever added i love it dearly

[@znail4675]

This is the gun that I have killed myself with the most so far in the game. I think that kind of balances it out rather well.

[@speckkatze]

i still think its balanced, bad ammo economy and bad range but a shit load of damage. But you give up your whole secondary for what is basically a panic button that might kill yourself

[@samuraitadpole5459]

​@@znail4675almost killed myself thinking it was my primary, I'm learning how to not kill myself slowly but surely

[@nicbarrax76]

​@@speckkatzeand the problem is...? 😂😂😂

[@larsenconditioning6742]

@@nicbarrax76 Too much fun

[@MerlinPrismriver-SoTrue]

"Medium Armor Pen" _AP 8_ Perfect stats description, Arrowhead.

[@TheGundamBoi]

RIGHT?

[@yaroslav7458]

they also messed up with the double edge, it's medium pen but the description says light lol

[@Ataximander]

@@yaroslav7458 Its only med pen at an overheated state

[@spartacus6256]

@@Ataximandernope it’s medium at all times

[@aurum0817]

@@Ataximander its always med pen. no need to let it ramp up

[@what-ho1mf]

the speed of the projectile scales with how fast YOU are moving too: -diving sends it far -jetpack sends it screaming into the sun

[@Tainted_Delusion]

I can say from a very bad experience that trying to aim that shit mid air is not a good idea lol

[@kakagakakerger4165]

​@Tainted_Delusion dont aim just predict

[@Harbard369]

Even if you’re in a vehicle and shooting backwards to the direction of travel it gains the momentum and has a stupid flap parabola at that point.

[@generalvictorironraven.1347]

@Tainted_Delusion you have to FEEL it. don't think just shoot it at random objects at different distances whenever there are spare ammo boxes around.

[@Strav24]

Also lookong upwards and firing while you're camera is moving adds speed to it

[@Ponial]

We had our 500kg multitool shrunk, glued to a stick and shoved in a pistol... Best freaking thing ever

[@KrullKama]

It’s a OPS strike in a secondary

[@MatthewHodges]

​@@KrullKamaAnd the OPS is 406mm (same as 380mm Barrage.)

[@tubach1082]

The only reason they'd give us this, is if there is something coming that we need it for

[@whilliamblamet187]

Just came up against a bile titan bug hole, normal grenades were not enough, had to resort to ye Davy Crockett. It's also an absolute joy to shoot at bile titans with this, the couple times you can do it. It's like hitting them with a backhanded slap and watching them flail over.

[@monke3138]

😏😶😶‍🌫

[@guccigang5269]

I really hate when nobody came for me when I did solo mega nest, so I called resupply stratagem on bile hole to close it 🤣

[@geronimo5537]

Perhaps on saturday

[@technologicalwaste7612]

The new battle striders are probably going to have jammers mounted on their backs.

[@user-hp1jw9tg3l]

Loved how data miners were like "thair's no way it's gonna be this good on release" and then it was.😂

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

“Bet” -Arrowhead

[@rektnightmare]

There are people complaining this thing is too powerful...WHERE'S THE DEMOCRACY OFFICER?!?!

[@davidcook680]

Really powerful. Just have to master the range and accuracy. It’s perfect how it is.

[@coffeeflavored8530]

Their IP address is from Cyberstan

[@sanderspijkers2495]

Some people actually like fighting the bots. Not just fire 1 bullet from a pistol and be sone with it all.

[@akkunair9392]

@@sanderspijkers2495 yea democracy officer, right here sir we found the bot sympathizer

[@horizonbs779]

​@@akkunair9392Brainless npc

[@The8thblock]

So much liberty in such a small package. Beautiful.

[@choty7066]

Do you hate that things exist in that general direction? Well you can now put a stop to that :)

[@stormhought]

I just blew up me and my buddies by accadent with it. 10/10 gun design

[@HamaIicious]

If arrow head were to nerf a fly, the entire community would grab their nearest entrenching shovel and charge towards their hq

[@gtfromffrc5382]

Good let em, maybe it'll teach there dumbass to quit ruining the game over goddamn nerfs bruh, it's a pve game NOT PVP!!!!, TAKES THE FUN OUT OF THE GAME, sorry not sorry.

[@arcangel6974]

@@gtfromffrc5382I really feel like you haven’t kept up with the game much at all if your still complaining about nerfs when they haven’t nerfed anything and only buffed things for the past 4-5 updates now..if you paid attention you’d see that nerfing isn’t even a issue anymore

[@karpparino]

@@gtfromffrc5382 someone is still living in summer 2024 I guess

[@figo3554]

I tried it myself and the moment I found out it could blow up jammers and detector towers I knew I'd never leave the destroyer without it on bot missions.

[@jamdonut4444]

Hot take: it needs to be nerfed but only slightly so it doesn't destroy jammers and detected towers because it feels like it makes the portable hell bomb useless, like why take it when you can just shoot the nuclear Nerf missile. apart from that I love how we got an anti tank secondary now.

[@deliqene3191]

Well, counter point, the 500kg and the obs also, make the portable hellbomb useless. You have a small argument on jammers but on detector towers you never used a hellbomb on them anyways, always those 2 stratagems. And even then you can just call in a hellbomb outside the perimeter and kill it anyways. Really the backpack hellbomb should not be used for not buildings like the jammer and detector tower, it should be used for running into the biggest enemy blob possible and blowing it up to kingdom cum

[@roxze772]

portable hellbomb for the drone fabricators

[@LucidDreamexe]

Agreed. Rather i dont think it needs nerfing, but that its glitched and its effectiveness is not intended. No point to the portable hellbomb with it as it is.

[@roseerina]

I disagree, Portable Hellbomb can be used in many other cases not just to destroy structures. Such as if you want to obliterate large horde of enemies to get a spicy amount of kill, the Hellbomb is a great choice for that.

[@autosaxphone0159]

Hot take no

[@AshenJobSnow]

I love this weapon, but I'm going to miss having to storm Jammers. The intensity of having to fight your way into a fortified outpost with no stratagem access and activate the terminal. Don't get me wrong, it is good that we have more Anti-Tank options for loadout variety. I just think removing gameplay isn't fun. I knew the Hellbomb backpack was going to change how we do jammers sometimes, but that's a backpack that also takes a stratagem slot and that's lost on use, the Ultimatum is a sidearm

[@Ryliath]

Nothing stops you from not using it...

[@AshenJobSnow]

@@Ryliath Doesn't matter when any of my 3 teammates will. They'll destroy the jammer before I can even get close to the terminal. And good luck finding any squad without at least one ultimatum.

[@towndrunk23]

@@RyliathNo, but unless you take pains to always host and kick anyone who refuses to switch off of it, someone will almost certainly bring it and trivialize the objective for everyone.

[@WinstonWolfe21]

@@AshenJobSnowthat won’t happen every single game

[@WinstonWolfe21]

@@towndrunk23so then they have to use their secondary slot and it only has two for ammo. I won’t be using this always as my secondary

[@AlinaColler]

Blew myself and 20 other illuminate up when I tried it for the first time. It’s my new best friend I love it so much 🥰

[@znail4675]

I actually think that nerfing the blast radius would be a buff as that would make it easier to use without killing yourself.

[@smugesque]

i used to run stun lance so sometimes i'd shoot it at 1 raider right in front of me

[@AlinaColler]

@@znail4675hear me out: make it fire farther instead of

[@CorpseHuggerKos]

Calling the charger a Twink is peak humor, algorithm bless this man

[@omnicrete7470]

Seeing the helldiver subreddit go into a hissy fit over this thing is hilarious

[@RemmyYu]

Everytime i heard this explosion, the only thing i hear is starwars' Seismic bomb explosion shit so beautiful

[@samueljo7910]

bawwwwwaaahhh

[@OctavianAfton]

I wouldn't mind them removing the ability to one shot bot buildings like signal jammers and detector towers, as I think thats for the role of portable hellbomb.(especially the signal jammers)

[@Garret-cain]

I get that but at same time its soo annoying on h10 when 2 jammers spawn next to eachother this thing is amazing

[@arkisenn9895]

If AH nerfs this gun, they'll nerf it HARD because they know our first response will be to point it at them and see what happens.

[@gtfromffrc5382]

If they do all there doing is taking the fun out of there own game, very reason I quit playing entirely cause of all the constant nerfs, not even gonna waste my time grinding for a warbond there just gonna nerf into the ground, super earth can burn for all I care.

[@Nycoorias]

If you need a free win button to enjoy the game, why do you play in the first place?

[@arkisenn9895]

@ Not to be that guy, but why are you still following the game if you left? You’re not the first person I’ve met that quit, but I will say those I coaxed back into playing are back and having fun. Maybe give it another go and see if it has its fun again. Otherwise you’ll just have $40+ in your game library collecting dust.

[@KnightInAChest]

⁠@@gtfromffrc5382don’t think OP’s response went to you as a reply since it just has an @ symbol so I’ll ask you for ‘em: If this is the sentiment you carry about the game, why do you still follow it??

[@Polaris5664]

The fact you get two with siege ready is insane, once we get medium armor with siege ready its all joever. Honestly make jammers immune to it and I think this would be a fine weapon considering you only get one on a resupply and support weapon anti tank has the advantage of range still. That said If I were to nerf it I would make it so it cannot get ammo from green ammoboxes, with enough around you basically get to spam this thing to high hell. Increasing the reload time might also be a decent balance. That way it gives us an anti tank secondary without trivializing the whole game. I hope they keep the damage tho thats the part that I like.

[@znail4675]

I think that nerf suggestion is a sign of being too used to good things nor being allowed.

[@Grumpy1174]

​@@znail4675 I mean, I love the thing, but it absolutely trivializes the game right now. I don't want it to be nerfed, though. I want AH to give us a reason to need weaponry this good.

[@znail4675]

@@Grumpy1174 It's only great against jammers, it doesn't trivialize anything else.

[@Grumpy1174]

@@znail4675 it 2 shots bile titans, one shots chargers and impalers, 2 shots factory striders and harvesters, and can one shot anything smaller. It can entirely replace support weapons in every way except AP.

[@johannhawk8471]

@@znail4675 it's using OPS/380mm stats. not 500kg stats. So it does more damage and armor piercing than the 500kg with a smaller explosion. So it can destroy warpships, jammers, command bunkers, and detector towers. But not gunship fabricators.

[@Harbard369]

It’s all about Ultimatum-Siege Ready-Supply Box-Maxxing now. Nothing else matters. That said because it’s ammo hungry pair it with the 1st plasma rifle, Commando Launcher, Drone grenades and Turrets. One of the sickest loadouts I’ve ever used.

[@playbabethebookshelf6249]

but in contrast, you either spend stratgem slot or having to use hellbomb to destroy some objective. this thing is just a side arm so i would say it’s definitely a power creep

[@NakedAvanger]

It should be nerfed. Its a step in the wrong durection but people, much like addicts, dont want it taken away for them, even if it would be a good thing in the long run

[@baconlover09423]

Yeah it's way too op on bots

[@GamingPIPI]

@@NakedAvangerit should not

[@sanderspijkers2495]

This is not a power creep. This is a power leap.

[@Ian_Comics]

I know that on the bot front, unless I have a specific plan in mind, I'm keeping my senator.

[@sparrowhawke8244]

“Remember: switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading” This muscle memory will get me killed

[@BigBoyz33]

i've been using it all day on the Illumiinate front, very situational so far but i found i need to take a supplypack along with it and using Commando for Harvesters. So far i really like it. Can't wait to test it on the bot front

[@carlosvicenty-9856]

I wouldn’t recommend it for the squids. It truly shines on the automatons because stratagem jammers like all of the biggest threats you can just destroy

[@thepheeesh]

One of my favorite weapons in the game ever, goofy yet practical. I hope it doesn't change!

[@MixelMan0106]

Bro said, "I can gush about this nuke on a nerf gun" it hasnt even been one day. Also day 5, I think... of asking for guard dog video. Much love. Edit: I will not stop until you make it. No rush, just free engagement.

[@troypowers750]

Now, we need a booster that lets us dual-wield with half as much stamina.

[@Sulferlines]

The only flaw I've seen with it is the explosion damage radius being smaller than the actual explosion animation. Which is the same problem 500kg had

[@znail4675]

Hmm, I don't think increasing the radius would be healthy for us.

[@Sulferlines]

@@znail4675 It wouldn't, but decreasing the animation is probably the better option

[@Nycoorias]

It's an OPS.

[@WafflezShiptoast]

Sing us a song, you're the GundamBoi

[@TheGundamBoi]

Time to start the warm ups XD

[@AlinaColler]

@@TheGundamBoiYES ANOTHER BANGER SOON LETS GOOOOOO

[@lsr444]

With this gun, Im actually looking forward to encountering a strategem jammer lol!

[@soundwave8475]

*walking by Research Station on Illuminate Mission* "Ah the hellbomb is bugged for some reason and I can't call it down... guess I can't destroy this..." *glances at Ultimatum* "Unless..."

[@dalas-da-bos9649]

From my testing, I can agree that it doesn’t need to be nerfed. It also one hits from underneath bile titans and factory striders I should mention. Might cost a Helldiver though

[@MerlinPrismriver-SoTrue]

Honestly, there is a genuinely argument not to nerf it offensively. Maybe its Demo Force should be nerfed, but the damage is honesty somewhat reasonable for being a once per resupply weapon.

[@kw30-z3j]

@@MerlinPrismriver-SoTrueI havent used it and Im by no means for it being nerfed, but using it with the siege ready armour passive will give you 3 mininukes, use that with a supply pack and you'll never run out. In game does it get limited by anything or is it really just as great as it seems? I can see why they may nerf it

[@MerlinPrismriver-SoTrue]

@kw30-z3j False, Siege Ready does NOT increase the number of shots you get per resupply, only the maximum number of shots you can carry at the same time. I know this for a fact because I am currently running it with Siege Ready and I still only get one per resupply.

[@isaacdayton4962]

It’s fine and it has a lot of trade offs that you have to play around if you want it in your kit. It has bad range and low velocity a long reload and low ammo count. Is it very very good yes but I don’t think it is op. it opens up new options for builds and makes not running an anti tank support weapon a lot better. Every support weapon that isn’t anti tank got a lot better because bringing one no longer removes your ability to kill the tanks

[@znail4675]

The Helldiver lives it takes is quite a balancing factor.

[@OP10thNakama]

Personally I don't think seige ready should affect this gun

[@skrubknight884]

While i don't likely see myself bringing this often to the Bug or Bot fronts, this has been a godsend to me for the squid front since i can just save this guy for the harvesters when they appear and bring my preferred support weapon of the grenade launcher or maybe the stalwart for the voteless now rather than the flamethrower or heavy machine gun.

[@preduttt]

This weapon is so good it got you my subscription in one shot too.

[@OS_Nines]

The whole Warbond is fantastic. The DES is amazing with Vitality Booster and the flame resistant armor, and it's a medium pen laser weapon with infinite* ammo. Obviously the sidearm is great. It oneshots literally everything. Pocket precision strike. Armor passive is peak comedy. Excited to get the portable Hellbomb and test it out.

[@bartofii]

loving the hellbomb pack. run in tirgger and drop or drop and trigger... maybe trigger and run in looking for the best spot and fail to drop it. It even has the function to be activated by your team mates.

[@guccigang5269]

@@bartofiiyou can’t trigger PHB when it’s dropped. You can only trigger THEN drop it

[@jefffoxworthyspen680]

All the screeching idiots on Reddit will get it nerfed and it will be worst in class by next patch unfortunately

[@Kitz419]

Best invention since Democracy or Freedom!

[@nosidenoside2458]

six shots with supply backpack. :)))))

[@Muekle]

Coming out with the Space Colony Ark music. Respect!

[@TheNavigator4552]

This abomination has a demolition force of 50! That's the highest in the game! It's stronger than the damn recoilless

[@lovepeace9727]

This thing can become a call-in stratagem and then it's alright-ish. It's making so many things too fast and easy already, no need to assault jammer towers anymore, just sling one in and it's over, no need to call in hellbombs and etc.

[@852paddy]

I love this thing giving me a lot more flexibility in building my loadout.

[@KincaidCalder-vn6bo]

Honestly, the balancing in this is actually good- it is STUPIDLY POWERFUL, but it’s got ridiculously short range and such tiny ammo reserves that it actually balances it.

[@playbabethebookshelf6249]

but in contrast, you either spend big stratgem or having to use hellbomb/backpack hellbomb to destroy some objective. this thing is jist a side arm so i would say it’s definitely a powercreep

[@bartofii]

agreed. I was thinking it'd be OP AF. Drop in, delete an objective like the strat jammer or an anti-air point... but damn TWO shots and only getting ONE ammo from *any* source (supply drop, supply pack, basic ammo pick ups, etc)

[@jaredbowman7764]

I think it is an attempt to provide a reliable, if limited, anti armor option for Helldivers who want more wiggle room in their loadouts for more fun stratagems or support weapons. Needless to say that it does, in fact, power creep the hell out of the sandbox.

[@KincaidCalder-vn6bo]

@@jaredbowman7764 yeah, that is true, the power creep is a bit of an issue, but on the other hand… Davy Crockett go boom

[@Nycoorias]

Pretty much, I don't like that it can destroy jammers (in all honesty, I don't think jammers should be easy to take out in general), but other then that it is extremely well balanced.

[@TheLampMan-JaE]

The new hellgun wannabe goes pretty hard when used with fire resist armor, but the Pocket Glockett is next level. It's easily one of the most hilarious things introduced to the game.

[@steadyjumper3547]

Torn between wanting to melee and this monster

[@George_M_]

Medium *anti building* pen (light is AT, heavy is hellbomb). Seems like it needs Democracy Protects with that hazardous blast radius.

[@matapros69]

i find it extremly usefull against bots, but not necessary as useful in the bug or illuminati front, nonetheless i love it (and the hellbomb backpack, funniest warbound until date)

[@simenvh2353]

my only issue with it is that it kinda makes the hellbomb pack obsolete

[@samuraitadpole5459]

You say that until the enemies bring out something new

[@dgg1684]

Hey dudes, I think this is a secondary

[@AmpHaros2756]

I don’t even have the warbond but I totally agree with you Now can you give me the W.A.S.P guide?

[@TheGundamBoi]

funny you say that i have it all prepared and ready tooo go, now only if i could stop playing the game ;_:

[@AmpHaros2756]

@As much as I want that video I 100% undertand why you can’t stop playing :P

[@TheGundamBoi]

@@AmpHaros2756 I got some editing to do lololol

[@acezero8132]

Counterpoint: Low ammo capacity. Just 2 nukes at a time at best, and you can only resupply 1 at a time.

[@baconlover09423]

There's ammo everywhere if you know where to look for it

[@Wickity3551]

Thinking about playing a melee loadout with the new shield and hatchet... Maybe you could make another vid becoming a knightdiver? Either that or a new shield vid 🪲🤖🦑🪓🫡🛡

[@echothegecko2875]

Second this! Also, Arrowhead should give us a big ass sword as a primary. We need an all melee loadout option. ...oh, and let us stab with the throwing knife.

[@guccigang5269]

I tried this. It’s good on bot front, kinda viable on bugs? That is if you swap ballistic shield with shield generator pack to protect you from bile spewer blasts. Not sure about illuminates tho, there are too many of them

[@unloyal4847]

I love it, I can finally replace Thermite with a regular impact or the heavy nade, this will fit nicely on my balance set.

[@davidcook680]

Might I suggest bringing the gas grenades instead.

[@kubarunetwork7513]

The Bile titan can also 1 shot if you hit the undersack . damn i love this gun fighting the bots , eye of sauron / jammers 1 shot and BOOOM no more

[@Strav24]

Its litterally a 380mm shell in your pocket. The siege ready armor let's you walk around with 3 of them on hand

[@D_Vice88]

hey cool i thought i was the only gamer on the planet that uploads in 21:9 your content fits my monitor perfectly my guy :) (try larger hud for helldivers, i like seeing the map bigger with our extra peripheral screen space and a more precise compass if you set it to wide range)

[@thaliuswarborn1148]

something something DRG something Fat Boy something something teamkilling galore God it's good to be alive

[@nordicdreki2068]

you didn't mention this in the video but I'd also like to point out that you can effectively double your range by firing this baby while diving forward

[@SkyGraywastaken]

I know this is a stress test vid so no update day for my arc thrower. But adding to this video’s engagement to bump your awesome vids i to recommended

[@deadly9486]

Imagine if it shot birdshot

[@eypick6987]

Wait… so this game has shotguns… Arrowhead added a shovel… AND a rocket launcher? SCREAMIN’ EAGLES!

[@guccigang5269]

Are you referring to TF2?

[@eypick6987]

@ yes

[@mrmemes170]

I wish we could take 2 secondrys so that i can take the senator with this

[@Livegamer005]

It has one downside: 3 shots. The upside: ammo is plentiful and supply packs are great.

[@mylesm2025]

SES Founding Fathers Of Family Values reporting in

[@Kattbirb]

It’s neat to be able to trade a secondary for an extra powerful 500kg that can't be jammed, but the most aggravating part of the thing is that it has worse range and velocity than a thrown stratagem ball. If that ever gets buffed I doubt I use anything else ever again. 9/10. The Super PIAT lives.

[@hellboundchaoscommand7567]

It destroys stratagem jammars... FUCK I JUST SPENT MY SUPERCREDITS!

[@jalontf2]

Arrowhead is teasing us with this but no Medium Siege Armor for an extra round...

[@aslightlystablefootsoldier9838]

They literally looked at the Nerf Missile launcher and turned it into a Mini Nuke.

[@acdcguy18]

I've seen other testings of the weapon and it can one-shot a titan if shot at the underside of the tail as well and it's not always a one-shot on a charger. Guy shot at it's leg and the thing survived.

[@gsausse8_019]

Introducing... the PIAT, but THICCCCC

[@Mr_CookedVenison]

Bro ya gotta do one on the seeker now!!

[@zombie_ghandi215]

the addition of this gun implies something: we will get some crazy strong enemies soon, i can feel it, those hivelord corpse we see on mission, they wont be corpse too long (would be cool to have those mission from lower level about hunting bile titans but here its a hivelord)

[@terrencemy1563]

i had been freaking blown away by this shit so many time since yesterday, damnit

[@RocketInAMaidSuit]

Thats a really cool video bud but it appears that this is not a video on the senator or the dagger so uh, yeah.

[@rfwm]

More like the "Ulti-Meatum"

[@fitzclaircharron3502]

Im glad the devs have gotten over the urge to balance everything into this neutral state, instead balancing by whats funniest

[@aidanmcmurtrie1424]

I'm subbing based only on the choice of sonic soundtrack

[@taurus478]

Would all "Bloodlusted teammates" raise your hands? ✋️😔

[@GravelordNito16]

I gotta get these weapons and quick, because February 8th is 100% when more Illuminate arrive

[@nathanwilliams3877]

We need more covers. Please release the Can't Take My Eyes Off You cover in full.

[@AseraVoid]

It can also destroy Detector towers also as well as squid ships through shielding

[@tacopanda3630]

I deem this weapon within my group: “The Slight Inconvenience remover” *A Hulk being a slight inconvenience?* *Ultimatum* *Twin Jammer Towers being a slight inconvenience?* *THE ULTIMATUM!*

[@zacfor4454]

This is very OP. I dont think they need to nerf because the ammo but i think we need some new enemies or new difficulty or something. Stuff was already getting very trivial at difficulty 10 in random pubs now we just got a huge power boost

[@Obsidian-Aurora]

The true boom stick

[@WarsmithHuggy]

Patterson, Fire a warning shot

[@orhandalegend]

Oh yeah this is definetly going to be my second warbond

[@Darkwater1886]

You can K.O. a Bile if you hit the but. Pretty good if they're chasing a teammate and you can close in fast enough. Easier to hit than head to.

[@thechroniclesofcriss942]

3:54 GIMME THE MEDALS BRO I CANT AFFORD IT I NEED MEDALS GIMME MEDALS

[@fivestarr49]

the casual face reveal is insane lol

[@johannhawk8471]

if it was actually a "pocket 500kg" then it wouldn't have a safe blast distance :V. It's actually a "pocket OPS/380mm" since its explosion is using the same stats as those. So less explosion radius than the 500kg but **more** damage than 500kg with 1 extra AP. since it's at a OPS/380mm strength it's enough to destroy warpships, jammers and detector towers but it's not enough to destroy gunship fabricators. You'll still need a hellbomb or mini-nuke for those.

[@TakeMyLunch]

If this weapon launched with their old balance philosophy it would be a stratagem you could call *once* per mission, sink instantly, and tickle the enemies. Glad that it seems like they've embraced they game they made instead of the game they wanted to make. While I feel for them wanting more of a satire "Die in Vietnam" simulator... That's not fun and people were gonna leave fast lmao.

[@samuraitadpole5459]

It could be fun if the rewards felt worth it

[@guccigang5269]

Talking about that. They should remove exo-suit limitation but mayble slightly reduce its armor and increase CD time. Like FRV, unlimited call and long CD

[@sivel7493]

I did fear that it might be a dumb "will-nilly-killy" weapon that can basically one-shot BTs and Factory Striders anywhere, but I found that it's pretty nicely balanced and that there's a lot of nuance to this thing. The trajectory is pretty extreme, so you really gotta get really close to the target or aim really high to reach a decent distance. And it doesn't just one-shot heavies willy-nilly, you actually have to hit direct hits to do anything meaningful, and sometimes even direct hits won't do too much either xD. Running an AP4 support weapon helps a lot, you can basically finish off BTs and Chargers and such with them, when a direct Ultimatum hit doesn't kill. The only thing that I might see nerfed is the demolition force, because I do think being able to one-shot Jammers and Detectors is kinda silly xD, but it's not the worst thing ever.

[@pendragon5744]

Don't seem them nerfing it. It is extremely dangerous to deploy and is very limited in ammo even when you got the supply pack.

[@tfewolf9410]

To those who wanna complain and scream nerf, why...? To arrowhead thinking about making any changes, if you do anything please make it a primary and give it one more round. But please don't change any of the characteristics of the gun

[@loofy530]

So essentially, an orbital strike in a pistol.

[@bartofii]

look.... the ultimatum is already a nerf gun. Have you seen the way it lobs the bomb? edit: on a serious note. The gun is set to have 1 chambered and 1 spare WITH the ammo booster (that we all run all the time), it will only ever get one singular ammo back from *any* source you can find. It's powerful and the power of a precision strike (literally the same dmg profile as OPS) but you will only ever have 2 shots on hand maximum at any given time (one loaded and one spare). What this means is that you are almost assuredly losing out on your secondary weapon to get a couple delete shots at times... no "faster to swap weapon than to reload" moments cause with this thing you will be sending in a new diver the moment you panic swap on a berserker (or stalker or whatever). Between the ammo pool and that arc it's a bit of a let down even despite the lovely moment of dropping onto a strat jammer and not needing to run out or clear it first.

[@Venalii1]

This with siege ready and supply pack equals maximum destruction