Stretching and Shaping Baseball Caps

Three possible steps for shaping your New Era 5950. Includes stretching the hat to fit your head shape, especially if you have an "oval" or "long oval" shape.
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[@dreinthe616]

Hey Everyone, I started a new series of "Compact Classics" for Fitted Caps, and the topic of this video is covered in a newer and shorter video here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGTPda17otmsrpI - thanks for your viewership!

[@Kennethdoesstuff]

Does anyone else realize that he has a Dodgers and Astros hat? This man just predicted the WS

[@GM-cm3qc]

Lol

[@ozzie5725]

He’s a time traveler

[@noob.168]

Where's the trash can though?

[@Angel-bg3rf]

*

[@jordanxlongoria]

Astros are the champs. Way better than the Dodgers

[@marcelgowa]

thats the best toturial ever, got myself a hat jack after watching it and it works perfect, i can finally wear my whole collection.

[@dreinthe616]

Very cool... glad it is working well for you, and thanks for the comment!

[@kyleh1919]

I buy the low profile 5950 hats specifically because of the high crown issue with their regular 5950s. Thanks for the stretching tips, I find that New Eras sizing is never the same with two different hats!

[@dreinthe616]

Sure thing - I made a whole video about size variation ICYI - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5a9YaKie7aEr8U - thanks!

[@76shogun1]

that was the best hat shaping tutorial ever..i am shaping and stretching hats that I lost hope of ever wearing.ive bought so many hats only to hate the fit when I get home.I have quite a collection covered in dust. I thank you sir,you are a true Renaissance man.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, glad to hear you are reclaiming your collection!

[@jopimp14]

chris melendez why didn't you try it on in the store? Or at least have your head measurements, and buy a bigger size

[@joaquinfarfan4111]

Okay. First time asking a question. First of all. I love your videos. My question is or my problem is this. I just purchased a cool used cap from eBay, but the seller sent it to me in a dang bag, not a box. The crown is smashed. Not a lot, but some. I love the crown to be high, and obviously, sturdy. What can I do to reshape the crown/buck rum to its original shape. I want the shape back. I want it sturdy and high. Sorry if I missed this on any of your videos brother. Help a cap enthusiast out Doug. Hope to hear from you soon. Anything. Any link Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. And thanks again for your videos. God bless

[@JRSanchez93]

@@jopimp14 I can sympathize with the OP. I'm 7 3/8 but it's a bit tight and 7 1/2 is TOO big. It's best just to stretch it out.

[@chesokabe2535]

JRSanchez93 is it better to stretch a smaller hat or shrink a smaller one? I am in a similar situation stuck between 7 and 7 1/8. The inconsistency in fit for any given size is frustrating....usually takes months for a 7 1/8 to feel right....and after a few months the 7’s feel too tight. I’m hoping these tips will help me salvage my collection as well

[@_saber_six3830]

excellent video! thank you very much for taking the time.

[@dorionwashington7460]

I'm a 7 1/2 aswell but have worn some 3/8 which is the next size up from the 1/2 or 3/8 thanks

[@paul-gn1wq]

Great advice and videos, Thank you! I was wondering, do you think it would be possible to streatch a New Era hat from 7- 7 1/2" or 7 5/8" ?

[@dreinthe616]

Thanks for the question...you can only safely expect to stretch by 1/8 of a size, sometimes 1/4 if you leave the cap on the jack and repeat the process over a couple of days. I don't see any way to go from a 7 all the way to 7-1/2 without wrecking the cap in some way.

[@bradcrisp1101]

After watching this video i went and did the hair dryer method to all my fitted caps for a better fit and look. Worked great! Honestly don't know why I didn't try this before. I did however try the hot water trick to the crown like other videos showed and this method works a lot better. My hats off to you sir!.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, good to hear. I can't claim original credit for the hair dryer technique, but I have found that it fits in well as one of these three steps for shaping caps. Thanks for the comment!

[@american4697]

Dude...you're my damn hero! I never heard of a hat jack so I've been struggling for years to find things to put my hats on to stretch them out!

[@dreinthe616]

Really cool, man... nothing I like hearing more than someone saving their cap collection with this - thanks!

[@YoChrisWTF.]

Hey dude I have a quick question does the retro crown fit hats fit the same as the low profiles? I wear 7 1/4 in regular but 7 3/8 in low profile. I’m about to buy a retro crown and wondering if you have any experience with those. Thanks 🤝

[@vaniguwap29]

where can i get this killer one ? or are all hat jacks the same

[@The_Jazzman]

Thanks for this, Doug! I guess this has already been asked before but I couldn't find the answer: Can you also stretch and a shape a New Era Diamond Era hat the way you show it? Or does it not work due to maybe different material of the Diamond Era hats? Thanks in advance!

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, I've done the same thing with Diamond Era many times, thanks.

[@AJSmith-lt5yc]

Can't thank you enough for your channel man! I've use these methods on all 25 of my 59Fifty Low Profile on-field caps. I am having trouble getting the head shape to stick though. Is that normal? It doesn't return to the way it started by any means. But it does tend to start to bow a little at the ears. Could I be doing something wrong?

[@dreinthe616]

No, I've experienced that also - the shaping effects can fade over time. You can repeat the process with the hat jack, and maybe crank a little past where you think you need to... then leave it on the jack overnight. That will make the changes more durable. And be sure to store your caps in the open position (i.e. don't fold them in like they are at the store).

[@Lekkavoorje]

Nice thanks!

[@21candiman12]

Does your shaping method also work on 59fiftys made from polyester, since those are supposed to be heat resistant? Great video!

[@dreinthe616]

Yes! I have stretched their Polyester "NuWool" caps many times, and talk about it a little bit in my "Material Comparison" video. A lot of it has to do with the fact that the sizing band on the inside is plastic, so the heat allows that to stretch without breaking, while the steam helps with the fabric. The Polyester caps do have a tendency to draw back a little bit over time, but you can repeat the process if you feel them getting tight again. Thanks for watching!

[@HH-vf1ps]

What else could I use as an alternative to a hat jack?

[@9407south]

Great tutorial! I am about to buy a hat stretcher. Any suggestion on the brand and size I need to buy to be able to stretch caps for a 7-7 1/8 fit?

[@dreinthe616]

You're going to want to get the 'small' hat jack. There's enough room in the threads to go past 7-1/8, so you should be fine with that. There's no real difference in brand, as there's a lot of outfits that just stamp their logo on one block. Thanks

[@MrAnzai1990]

i cant find a hat jack in my country :( do you have any recommendation as to what i can use as a substitute ? thanks . great videos btw

[@dreinthe616]

Hey, thanks... and the only thing I could think of would be a workbench vise - if you could add some wood or other blocks to the top of the vise that would move with it as you crank open the vise.

[@Dhammachat199]

Thank a lot

[@dominicfiorino7463]

What should I do if I want the sides of the hat to be a little tighter and not stick as far out? It’s not that much at all but looks a little weird. Could I possibly use a spray bottle to spray water on the side panels and sweatband or another method?

[@dreinthe616]

I’ve had that happen with a couple of caps. Two things I’ve done - one is to get another hat jack and use a sander on the outside corners of the wood to make the blocks “skinnier” - that way the sides are not pushed out as far. Second thing is what you said - get the sides wet then hit them with heat... and they might tighten up a bit. Hope that helps, good luck and thanks for the question.

[@Mucasalecha1]

Great video. Thanks for posting. I have a fitted cap (80% acrylic 20% wool). The cap is 7 1/8 and I am a 7 5/8. The hat is very rare and I found it new for cheap so I took a risk. Any hope for me?

[@dreinthe616]

Thank you - and unfortunately, that might be too much to get from stretching. You can count on stretching at least 1/8 additional size, and probably up to 1/4 additional if you proceed carefully. But if your cap is close to a true 7 1/8, I think you would have a hard time getting it expanded to 7 5/8 without some visible distortion or damage.

[@chadolson5537]

Great video, my hat size is actually between sizes and because of your video I am able to wear my fitted hats that were too small for me. I just got my hat stretcher today, and the steaming idea is great. Thank you for the great video😁

[@dreinthe616]

That's cool, I'm sure you will dial in the right fit. Thanks for the note and good luck!

[@Stanleycupbruins]

Very Good Video, thank you

[@lucasecclestone8338]

Just found your channel. Very informative and helpful. Thank you!

[@NescafexChannel]

Thank you that thing with steam helped me :)

[@dreinthe616]

No sweat, you are welcome. Thanks for commenting.

[@VinnyKnuckles]

Excellent.

[@marvineastman460]

Dre is it possible to stretch out a fitted cap thats slightly tight around the head. Dont need to change shape as much as to just make a little more room. I usually wear a 7 3/8 but for some reason was shipped a cap that is pretty snug. I have never been able to wear a 7 1/2 in any hat without there being way to much room/looking goofy.

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, certainly - the hat jack will also do that. Just go a little bit at a time, and repeat if necessary, it will give you a little more room without distorting the shape. Good luck!

[@kenacycle]

does the steaming method work with caps made from wool?

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, in fact I think the cap in this video is wool. Steam is effective with all sorts of fabrics.

[@xcllnt--6231]

What's the name with the closed caps so you can't do a size I don't know it

[@tylerdeweerd2406]

My cap collection/oversized noggin cannot thank you enough man! Cheers from another 616'er!

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, that’s what I like to hear!

[@nickgonzales4674]

Anybody willing to help me with a couple questions before i purchase a hat jack? i have some old hats that shrunk over time but are still in good shape and i want to wear them again. Being a size 8 makes hat buying difficult since we really cant go up another size, so if this thing works out, i wouldnt have to worry about hats shrinking.

[@dreinthe616]

Hey Nick... I made the video, so obviously I'm a big fan of the Hat Jack, but I would say you can't go wrong for your situation. I've taken plenty of caps in smaller sizes and stretched them into a good comfortable fit - and sometimes I 'refresh' other hats I have when they have drawn in a little bit over a long time. if you only need to restore your cap sizes you should be all set, good luck.

[@mickeyseward]

Thanks for this video. Ever try stretching a memory fit hat? Any way to do that?

[@dreinthe616]

Have never tried it, so unfortunately I don't really have an opinion to offer. Steam and blocking (like the hat stretcher does for a portion of the cap) are long-time tools of hat makers, so I don't think you can really go wrong with trying them - even if you go slow to measure the effects. Thanks.

[@nathanbarron5854]

Would I set the hat jack a size lower? Then my usual size when stretching?

[@dreinthe616]

Hmm, not sure if I understand the question - the main idea is to get it hand tight, then steam it, tighten again, steam it, etc... then let it sit on the jack for few hours. Should be stretched after that, but you can repeat the process if you want to go slowly.

[@mattb9351]

Hey Doug any advice on how to clean polyester and wool new era caps?

[@dreinthe616]

Actually, I'm about to post a new video about what I do for "routine maintenance" and basic cleaning of my caps. I will probably have something up this weekend. Thanks for the question!

[@dreinthe616]

Just posted a new vid for lightweight cleaning... kzbin.info/www/bejne/hImnYWmln6eCfM0

[@Heeman5]

Very good tutorial!

[@818Yankee]

I need myself a jack,,, good job man!!!👍🏻

[@AmericanIranian1]

This definitely works, but I used the Hat Jack and stretched my hat too much! Is there a way to undue the damage/shrink this back?

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, I had that happen a couple of times. I have been able to reduce size a bit by getting a spray bottle, putting a good amount of water on the six panels of the cap (but not the visor), then heating with a hair dryer. I've done it a few times in a row to recover the fit. The other thing you can do is spray those six panels and toss it in the dryer for a bit, but you have to be careful with the visor/bill. Both polyester and wool caps should shrink a little bit with heat, and they will hopefully also pull in the plastic sizing (band) that is also in the sweatband. Time and wearing it helps too. Good luck!

[@JRP..]

Hi Doug, do you recommend a to get 1 size up on actual if you're planing to bend the brim or still should I buy 1 size lower than my actual size?

[@dreinthe616]

I talk about that exact subject in my recent video 'Why so much Shrinking?' - give it a watch at kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2GwnJ5-ha9rrLc - thanks

[@carmeloc.8129]

Thanks for this, Doug!!! I come across the high crown issue often because I mail order my New Eras (Online styles are mostly cooler than what's at the local Lids). No way to know what you're buying til you've waited a few days for delivery. Then if you love it, you don't wanna go through the exchange process. My new challenge is shrinking acrylic snapbacks and trucker hats. I can't do ovens and dryer hacks because I'm afraid the plastics will melt. Any help you can provide there would be greatly appreciated.

[@dreinthe616]

Hey, wish I had a little more expertise in that area... but I have not worked a lot with those cap types. You have it right that the softening or melt temperature is the most important thing to consider. I think acrylic and polypropylene are a little higher temps, while nylon is a little lower. Maybe you have one you wouldn't miss if you used it for experimenting? Good luck!

[@xssmontgox]

Best tutorial I could find and made the process so much simpler. Thanks!

[@dreinthe616]

Right on, glad I could help! Thanks for the comment.

[@frasse98]

Really good content as usual. I really like the style of the og 59fifty. I bought a 59fifty 7 7/8 but its a bit to loose. Is it possible to shrink or should i buy a smaller size instead and expand it 😁?

[@dreinthe616]

I almost always believe it's easier to stretch than to shrink. If it's only a small amount too loose, then you can try a technique from one of my shrinking videos. Thanks!

[@frasse98]

@@dreinthe616 Its just a little bit loose. Not that much 😁

[@nathanmachado9412]

Wait, do you buy your hats a size small and stretch them ? Or do you by your normal size ? I normally wear. 7 1/4 but i find that on some of them the sides flare out a bit. Would i want to use the hat jack or would i just want to do the method of spraying it with water and using a hair dryer to slightly shrink the hat

[@dreinthe616]

I usually buy 7-1/2, and that's my normal size - but I use the hat jack to get a more oval shape to match my head shape. If you're getting bowing at the sides, I'd maybe try picking up a "small" size hat jack (for your 7-1/4 normal) and elongating the hat shape a little bit. Or even try a 7-1/8 cap (one size smaller) and stretch it with the hat jack. Lots of size variation in caps, and it's easier to stretch than shrink. You could also do this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3ico5Z7bLqojKs - to take out the extra space. Lots of options, good luck!

[@jaquin11]

Awesome tutorial! Ordered my hat jack today. Hopefully I'll be able to stretch my hats to perfection. Thanks.

[@dreinthe616]

Sure, thanks for the note, and best of luck with the stretching!

[@jimlundquist3600]

Where did you get the hat jack at?

[@lincolno7175]

Nice vid, good information👍

[@SwankySwag_]

Sorry if this has been answered before but is there any way getting a 7 1/8 to a 7 3/8 I would really appreciate the help and wanted to see if its possible I got my cousin a hat and im not sure if it will fit him

[@dreinthe616]

No, that's too far to go... you should look through the videos tab on my channel, and also check out my recent FAQ video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqe6lZumf5yFnZI - 1/8 of a size is about the best you can expect.

[@georgewashington7425]

Great video! You stated getting a hat stretcher that is a little bit lower than my hat size. Is that to avoid over stretching the hat? I know you stated you wear a 71/2 hat so your stretcher is a 7 1/8 to a 7 1/2 but getting a stretcher that goes to your hat size will it provide room to open the hat up more? Sorry if my question is crazy but I want to make sure I get the right size and not damage my hat by over stretching it. Thanks for your help

[@dreinthe616]

Actually I recommend that because I have a long oval head shape, and I believe the blocks get wider as you get a larger hat jack. I have a narrow head, and I've got another video where I shaved off a bit of the sides of the wood blocks to customize it a bit more. Overstretching is something you'll have to watch for on your own, because the turnbuckle still has thread to keep going, but you'll know when you're starting to go too far. You can repeat the process 2-3 times if you'd rather "sneak up" on the right amount of stretch, thanks.

[@jkidesto714]

How much more did you stretch the hat? Atleast a size bigger? I just bought a hat stretcher on amazon. I have a small head, just about 22" circumference. I wear a size 7 and a size up would be too big for me. I sometimes get lucky with a perfect size 7, but some of my hats need that stretch.

[@dreinthe616]

If you only need to add a little bit, just go slow on the steaming and stretching with the jack. You can always repeat the process if you need a little more room. You can definitely get 1/8 additional size (one size) with the stretcher, and 1/4 (two sizes up) if you are careful and the hat is well made. Also, when buying new hats, the sizes vary a lot, so I would suggest trying many hats including sizes 1/8 above or below your normal size (see my video kzbin.info/www/bejne/moWrYZqCfLJ4rM0). Thanks for the question, hope that helps!

[@panyax16]

anybody knows how to make the visor rigid again when it gets softened due to the cartoon used inside in the modern new era caps visors?

[@dreinthe616]

Unfortunately it is mostly impossible to make a visor rigid again… once it has been bent and curved it really becomes fatigued from lots of small cracks, and it is much more flexible.

[@cohung3165]

Doug what kind of quick grip do u use? Is it a 6 inch grip?

[@dreinthe616]

Actually I don't know the official size, but the diameter of the mug here is close to 4", so you need a decent clamp width... I also have a video on three ways to curve your visor - and only one method requires the Quik-Grip. I mostly steam and then hand-shape my visors these days, thanks.

[@carljohnson5046]

very good video! I have a 24 inch head been buying 7 5/8 hat.... they are so inconsistent with sizing! Hopefully this helps.

[@dreinthe616]

Hey, thanks man... you are correct about the inconsistency, I made a recent video about that topic too - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5a9YaKie7aEr8U - if you are interested.

[@kiddfresh626]

How much of a difference was it after stretching it, I also wear a 7 1/2 and just got a hat in that fits a tad bit to tight, I’m afraid if I stretch it, it would be to much..

[@dreinthe616]

That can happen, but it really depends on how much you steam and crank the Hat Jack open. If you just put the cap on the jack and turn until it is "hand-tight", then steam it once, you are really just shaping it. But if you steam, then crank, steam, then crank, etc., you are stretching it. I'd just go very light on how much you crank the hat jack, if you decide to stretch a little. Good luck, thanks for watching.

[@thewhitewolf7886]

I got into collecting new era Jaguars hats, and I've been looking for advice just like this. Your voice is also very calming, if that makes sense. Thank you!

[@dreinthe616]

Hey thanks man, appreciate that - I do try to keep it steady while narrating, and this was one of my first posted videos... tons more like this at my channel, so if you're collecting I think you'll find some good stuff!

[@SeBa33102]

Very helpful videos on your channel. Thumbs up!! Got a cap in my size 7 1/8. I Did your shaping technique with the hat jack and with a Philips steam n go. It works out. Unfortunately, the cap is a lil bit too loose now at the sides at the sizing now. I think I just stretched and shaped it a little bit too much. I also feel, that the four backpanels got a little bit tighter and there is less room than it was before cause I steamed the wrinkles out the cap, too. Doug, what kind of techniques I could use to make the sizing smaller and avoid to shrink the panels more? Thank you

[@dreinthe616]

I did a newer video with these basic techniques - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGTPda17otmsrpI - you should check that out and consider buying a bump cap insert to hold shape with the back four panels when shaping/stretching. I'd say don't worry about a little overstretching, time and wear usually corrects that - but you could always steam it with no hat jack or inserts, and it should contract a little bit, thanks.

[@antonygough-martin857]

Hey, just done this last night, it worked. My low profile hat doesn't pinch anymore. However, how long does the stretch last before you have to do it again?

[@dreinthe616]

It varies depending on how often you wear and/or sweat in it, and the amount of stretch you put in to start with. Personally I only need to refresh every 6-9 months or so, but I rotate wearing a lot of hats so it's sometimes tough to tell. Sometimes you can leave it on the jack overnight, then steam and stretch a little bit more, that will definitely make it longer-lasting if you like. Thanks!

[@meganwood580]

How is the best way to stiffin up my ball cap? (It took a swin in the lake. Then the sink to clean it.) I've tried a spray starch and it didnt help alot any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[@dreinthe616]

That is a tough one - I've actually never tried to recover the stiffness of a cap, although I've had a couple of "lawnmowing" caps that got pretty soft. Sorry, but I don't actually have any suggestions if you already tried starch. There are plastic fibers in the buckram - but if they get fatigued there might be no way to get them back. Thanks for the question.

[@cohung3165]

Hey Doug thanks a lot for your advice, My hats look great now, I like my cap like you like yours so it makes it easy. Thanks

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, Brian, glad it's working for you.

[@stevemarion9591]

How do we stretch a Velcro strap baseball hat? I can’t find any information on how to stretch a Velcro hat. Thanks

[@joemessman1]

Thanks for all your information and tips. I just watched this video and stretched my Pirate hat for a perfect fit. As you have said in the past, the sizes vary quite a bit. I wear a 7 1/4 and when I order one it's like buying a box of chocolates. I've been a baseball cap fanatic since the 50s when I was a kid. In those days you couldn't buy a cap that the players actually wore on the field. All I could ever find were stupid cheap caps with no crown and cardboard visors.

[@dreinthe616]

You are welcome, thank you for the comments, glad it has worked out for you!

[@Tlducken]

How many sizes do you think a wool fitted can stretch?

[@dreinthe616]

I usually say not to try for more than 1/8" of a size. Otherwise lots of visual defects start to happen, and you might not get it to where you want it.

[@fmrtns92]

Hello dre! I recently bought a 7 1/2 cap thinking that it would fit better than a 7 5/8 (I am in Brazil and it is barely impossible to try caps before buying, so we rely on internet shopping). It is really tight! I watched some videos where people just stretch until that plastic sizing line is 'ripped', but I am pretty sure I will end up damaging my cap. Down here I couldn't find any hat jack, and that's my question here. Is there anything or any process I can do without the hat jack to stretch it?

[@dreinthe616]

Hey Felipe, yes that is tough to do without being able to get a hat jack. Unfortunately I don't have any good suggestions for an alternate process, but the hat jack is basically two wood blocks with a turnbuckle in-between them. Some people make their own and sell them on 'craft' websites like Etsy.

[@YaniLocsta]

Hi, do you know the diameter of the mug that you use? Also great vid. I had 1 out 4 of hat that I perfectly shaped using my hands, but now I think it will improve more from watching this vid. ty

[@dreinthe616]

It's just a little less than 4", or close to 95mm. I sometimes use an empty quart paint can from the hardware store, and that's a little bigger diameter. It will be very curved if you use these, but it can be opened up with a little flexing, and it relaxes over time. Thanks!

[@YaniLocsta]

dre in the 616 Thank you👍🏼

[@AmericanIranian1]

I've got a new New Era snapback (made from 100% polyester) I really like, but oddly enough (because I've never had an issue with snapbacks) it won't fit right as is. The size I normally wear is a bit too big -so the hat drops down & presses against my ears. The next size down is so tight it left a mark and my forehead and was quite uncomfortable. My question is... can you tweak snapbacks like you do fitted caps, and if so to what extent? I want to be somewhat careful to not loosen the plastic snap in the back. Would it be more sensible to go from the bigger size down or in your opinion try to enlarge a size up? Also, I have found your video very helpful and easy to follow. Thank you for doing such a great job and for responding to our questions.

[@dreinthe616]

Thanks for the question, and I have to be honest that I don't have much experience working with snapbacks. I think the best thing you might be able to do is start at the smaller size with the snap adjust, then get it on the hat jack and steam and slightly expand it as shown in this video. That might get it to a bit longer, more narrow shape that can prevent the forehead pressure. On fitteds there is a plastic "sizing" band inside the sweatband that can stretch with heat, but I'm not sure if that is used in snapbacks. I'd say just try it and go a little bit at a time, good luck.

[@AmericanIranian1]

One additional idea I came across today was replacing the plastic strap in the back with a leather one that's more adjustable to my size. I'll try your method, and if that doesn't work simply switch out with the plastic for leather. Also, I've been told it's probably a good idea to remove all stickers before applying any kind off heat or moisture. Thank you again for the prompt and useful advice.

[@clsm2195]

Hi,is it possible to make a size M cap a size L/XL using this method?I want to stretch my gucci baseball cap.

[@dreinthe616]

If it's a stretch or flex fit cap, probably not. If it is a "non-stretch" cap, etc. - then maybe, but it sounds like you've got a ways to go from M to L or XL.

[@tomthurber3981]

Thanks for all this great information. With your help I was able to restore a dirty, crumpled, thirty-year-old cap to almost new condition.

[@dreinthe616]

That's the stuff I like to hear... glad it all worked out for you, thanks.

[@juana7885]

Can't wait to try this! Awesome thank you!

[@dreinthe616]

Sure thing, stretching is essential on most of my caps bc of my head shape, hope you find it valuable too, thanks.

[@dennisteran3031]

How do we get the wrinkles to go away after brim is shaped( wrinkles under the brim)

[@dreinthe616]

The more you curve the visor, the more prominent the wrinkles will be. They do tend to go away over time, and as the curve relaxes a little bit, but wherever the fabric is not stitched in place, they will still happen.

[@7magicful]

You are a hat GOD! I have same head and got some probs with same issues. Thank you for this tutorial, greetings form Europe Latvia! ;)

[@dreinthe616]

Awesome, greetings to you as well! Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad I could help out with your cap fit.

[@TyrantGalvatron]

Another fantastic video. You are doing an invaluable service for your fellow hat enthusiasts. I very sincere thank you.

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, man - thanks for the comment

[@matthewb1]

Thank you! I used this video to form a hat that my mom got me for Christmas and I couldn’t be happier with the results

[@dreinthe616]

Really cool to hear, glad I could help out!

[@pubdell3804]

hey a question how long does the clamp have to be

[@ShotokunWulf]

@@pubdell3804 you could just do without the clamp and stick it INSIDE the mug, just my opinion

[@DTHEGOAT28]

Best tutorial yet!! For the hat jack should I get a medium size 7 1/8 - 7 1/2 if I am a 7 1/2 in the 5950 caps? Keep up the great & helpful tutorials, hope to see you review the new "PROLIGHT" version would be very cool. Thanks alot

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, I am a 7-1/2 and that's the size that I bought. There is enough expansion room in the threads to go well beyond 7-1/2, and that size also supports the "Long Oval" head shape that I mention. Just remember that you can repeat the procedure if you don't get enough shaping or stretch the first time. Thanks for the comment, and I do plan to post a review of the Prolight caps within the next week or so, as Spring Training gets rolling!

[@dreinthe616]

... and when referring to "threads" below I meant the mechanical screw threads in the hat jack - they will keep going past 7-1/2 if you buy that size of Hat Jack.

[@DTHEGOAT28]

Appreciate the info will be looking forward to seeing the review. thanks

[@dreinthe616]

I did just post my review for the 2018 Prolight caps... you can find it at kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHetl4mvr5JsrJo Thanks!

[@bmalin]

Thanks.

[@saint0rleansofthe9th76]

Any idea where I can bigger size hats ? Size 8 and up ?

[@dreinthe616]

Sorry, no good suggestions - most of the usual spots I use seem to stop at 8, and often they do not have a ton of inventory at that size either.

[@prettyTipsy]

Would it be possible to stretch a size 7 hat to a 7 3/8? I have a hat jack that goes from 7 - 7 1/2, wondering if i’d be able to make that work? Thanks

[@dreinthe616]

Unfortunately that seems way too far to achieve without damaging some aspects of the cap. Usually you can count on 1/8 size, and with repeated application you can pretty safely add a 1/4 size - but going to 3/8 seems like a tough challenge. Not sure you'd make it, or if you'd still like the cap after finishing.

[@johnpauljuntong6644]

sir can i ask, if what kind of material used in the front of the new era cap, that make it hard and bold?

[@dreinthe616]

Sure, thanks for the question. The mesh lining that gives the crown structure is called "buckram" and I believe it is woven from cotton fibers and treated with other additives to make it stiff.

[@josephbrandstetter6878]

It used to be a straight linen. If you out it to light, you will see that the newer ones have nylon strands going vertical that are woven between the strands of the linen.

[@krush59]

maybe I missed it- do you by your hats one size smaller when you going to stretch them?

[@dreinthe616]

No, I am a normal 7-1/2 and most of the time I go with that - really you are just changing the shape of the cap. Sometimes I'll stretch a 7-3/8, because that one might have been the best one that I tried on in the store. It's easier to stretch than shrink, for sure!

[@unaimartinez7611]

Is it possible to easily stretching the cap without the hat jack? I have just received my first 5950 and I would like to shape it a little bit. Thanks!

[@dreinthe616]

I'd recommend checking out this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHeyimCDerhprsk - where I shape my cap and break it in without using a hat jack. If you need to stretch it at all, there really isn't a good substitute for a hat jack... thanks for the question.

[@ticktock1479]

I have a hat from Fanatics that doesn't seem to want to stay stretched even after doing the hat jack twice. Any advice?

[@dreinthe616]

I've not tried one of the Fanatics branded caps - but I would suggest leaving the hat jack in the cap for longer periods of time. You can also leave it overnight, then steam it and crank it again - they will generally keep stretching. That said, I do have to refresh a stretch every now and then - but usually it's more like a few months. Thanks

[@Tlducken]

Ever try shaping an Ebbets Field cap? I steam and put my bill in a coffee mug for an entire day and it only held its curve for an hour.

[@dreinthe616]

No, but maybe in the fall I will review one. Could also be a different substrate in the visor on those caps.

[@kevicortes221]

Disculpe de pura casualidad será que aquí en Colombia también puedo conseguir esas mismas gorras que usted tiene y muestra hay mismo en los videos ?

[@dreinthe616]

¿Te refieres a los equipos y logos? La mayoría de mis gorras son gorras de campo de los equipos de la MLB o provienen de colecciones de diferentes diseños. No estoy seguro si las mismas colecciones se venden en otras regiones.

[@giovanniramos2732]

So using this process of stretching am I able yo get a 1/8 to a 1/4? Theres many times i love a hat but cant get it because its not my size and I was wondering if i can get the 1/8 of the hat that I want to fit my 1/4 size? Thanks in advance!

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, you can get 1/8 of a size up with a hat jack, I'd recommend getting one - and you should go to my channel for more guidance if you like. That question happens to be in my "Frequently Asked" category, which I did a video for in late 2021, thank you.

[@Tlducken]

Would you still use the steam if you were curving the bill of a wool cap?

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, in fact the Astros cap in this video is 100% wool. No worries with doing it, the steam conditions the fabric to be more compliant with the shaping. Thanks

[@Tlducken]

@@dreinthe616 That's great, thanks! I was just worried about the steam coming in contact with the sweatband area and shrinking the hat.

[@dominguezsanchezenrique3619]

Hi Great video and thats the perfect shape we always want I m about to get a cap that i really wanted from time along but its 7 (im size 7 1/8 ) you really think i can stretch bigger? And the most important i m thinking about the fact that the hat could seem very small in my head And nobody wants that Hope you can answer

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, for sure... +1/8 of a size is usually ok. It might look a little narrow, but I've only had trouble with that once or twice. Thanks.

[@luekrative2713]

I normally buy 7 1/8 size but I’ve noticed lately they have been running a bit bigger.. do you suggest I get a size 7 and stretch it a little? measured my head and it’s 56cm. What would you recommend thanks

[@dreinthe616]

Not sure if you've seen my most recent vid from last week - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5a9YaKie7aEr8U - but it is all about how sizes vary and what you can do. I usually stick with my 'standard' size when ordering online, then either stretch or shrink if it does not come as expected, thanks.

[@matthewvillarreal7497]

I don't buy alot of fitted 5950 caps, but I usually try on a cap at the store, bend it a little, and if it feels good, I'll buy it. I perfer my cap with a slight curve, but over time curve the bill a little more. By then, my hat feels a bigger than the initial purchase, when trying on. Would you recommend buying a size down? Like a little snug and using a hat jack to get an "in between" size?

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, curving the visor changes the perimeter shape of the cap, and the fit usually changes as a result. I always grab a stack of caps and find one that is a little snug because I know that the hat jack can shape and stretch. I suspect that a lot of people end up with the wrong size, because that flat visor distorts the shape, and my shrinking videos are very popular!

[@matthewvillarreal7497]

@@dreinthe616 thanks for the response! I think I will try buying a snug hat for my next purchase and invest in a hat jack. I'll have to experiment with the jack, to get get the best fit, I don't wanna feel like I'm throwing away money on fitteds.

[@S3driver]

How does bending the brim have an effect on the size of the cap? I’m between two sizes on the 59fifty and would like the bend the brim but can’t decide for a size. On my 9forty I notice when I hold the edges of the brim upwards the cap fit gets firmer. Thanks in advance. Sam

[@dreinthe616]

Great question, and I talk a lot about that topic in my video "Why So Much Shrinking?" - check it out at my channel or click kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2GwnJ5-ha9rrLc thanks.

[@S3driver]

@@dreinthe616 thanks for your prompt reply. The other video really has some detailed and helpful information to my question. I will go with the smaller size.

[@Westwestwestthirteen]

Any tips for keeping the brim from getting too soft ? From the steam

[@dreinthe616]

When the visor gets soft and 'fatigued' it's usually from bending it a lot, especially bending it cold. Older cardboard visors would also have trouble with excessive moisture, which is why I never soak them in water when cleaning. For the steam, you really shouldn't have too much trouble if you only hold it in the steam for a few seconds. Heating it then bending it - and letting it cool down in the intended shape is the key part of the process, thanks.

[@Westwestwestthirteen]

@@dreinthe616 thank you for clearing that up for me 🙏 I usually just spray starch on the brim if it ever gets too soft

[@badger9291]

Do you buy a size down in order to stretch it?

[@dreinthe616]

No, I buy a consistent size, and stretch when the cap needs it... since I have the long-oval head shape, I use it quite a bit to shape my caps. And as you probably know, New Era's sizing varies a lot from cap to cap, so it's best to stick with your normal size anyway, thanks.

[@kellyokamoto1604]

How do you fix a hat with a slightly collapsed crown panel??? I have a favorite hat and one of the panels is dimpled a bit at the top and it looks stupid. Solutions? Thanks!

[@dreinthe616]

I'd say stuff a towel or other form underneath it, heat it til warm with a hairdryer, then hold firm until it cools... good luck

[@surveillance1]

wow, why couldn't I figured out it earlier? o_O this is what I nedded for many years!! love the low crown cap that wore (rappers especially) int the 90's. thanks to you good man. greetings from Ukraine!

[@dreinthe616]

Cool, man - that's what I like to hear! Greetings to you as well, thanks for watching!

[@surveillance1]

dre in the 616 yesterday I watched one riveting video kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4DMg6p-jN1qqsk none knows where to buy this equipment. guess, it would be interesting to you as well.

[@Kaetoh]

Whenever i stretch my hat it doesnt hold. I have left it for over 48 hours. Do you think steaming it so that i can really stretch it and then leaving it for a few days will make a difference? 5/8 is way too big and almost every 1/2 i have is too snug, super frustrating.

[@dreinthe616]

I'd say that when you're steaming it and cranking open the hat jack, just go a little farther than you think you might be able to. Keep heating the lower outside sweatband area in between cranking... you'll find that the heat allows you to stretch it just a little more. You can also steam and stretch it, leave it on the hat jack, then come back the next day and repeat process without ever removing it from the hat jack.

[@Quicklion76]

@dreinthe616 I’m trying to stretch a wool Ebbets field Flannel hat from Golf Le Fleur. It’s just a standard old school ebetts field baseball cap with the smaller brim. A size 7 new era is to small, 71/8 is too big, if I get the new hat Jack , should I get a size 7-71/2 ? I want to increase the side a little to reduce the forehead pressure. If you respond you’ll save me ❤

[@dreinthe616]

I would get the smaller hat jack if you are closer to a natural 7. The problem you would have with the Medium (7-7-1/2 size) is that the blocks will be pretty wide for your size cap... you'll be better off with the small. It will have enough travel to extend your caps.

[@davidk2607]

I had bought a few 59Fifty’s when my hair was much shorter & had no problem fitting them. But now my hair is longer & thicker, it’s a nightmare to put on & I don’t wanna get rid of the ones I already have. Can this technique also be used?

[@dreinthe616]

Yes, I've had the same trouble sometimes - and I'd just say put them on the hat jack to open them up for a better fit, and you should be all set. Thanks for the question.

[@davidk2607]

dre in the 616 thank you for the help & the response.

[@MVPlayer123]

I am 7 5/8 and but i still get small red marks on my forehead! I curve my brims. I know its my size because the back feels loose and the side as well! But the front is the issue.. If i move up a size! Its way to big. The hat will literally covers my eyes lol.

[@jennifermai5629]

is it possible to use a 6 1/2 hat jack for a 6 3/8 hat that i want to stretch to a 6 1/2?

[@dreinthe616]

I think you mean 7-3/8 to 7-1/2? Yes, should be no problem to go up 1/8 size with that jack.

[@jennifermai5629]

@@dreinthe616 i have tiny head, i meant 6-3/8. no worries! hat jack makes a small one too

[@JustAnotherDiamond1TrashKKR]

So hes basically the Hat Whisperer?!

[@notthatdigusted7468]

LOL

[@nait08]

Hi! Is that hat made out of wool or polyester?

[@dreinthe616]

The Astros cap in the vid is 100% Wool, thanks

[@extendomigs]

So what size hat jack should I get since 7 1/2 fit a little too tight?

[@dreinthe616]

I'd stick with the Medium... I am about the same size (on the upper edge of 7-1/2) and that's the one I use.

[@extendomigs]

@@dreinthe616 i just ordered the medium long oval off of hat club. Is that a good choice?

[@Tlducken]

I see you have a 7 1/2 size hat. What size Hat Jack did you get? I wear a size 7, wondering if I should get the small size or a bit larger to get a good stretch.

[@dreinthe616]

At a size 7, definitely get the small Hat Jack. You've still got plenty of room to crank that open for a good stretch. When the Hat Jacks get bigger, the wooden blocks get wider too - which I think you would not want to deal with. Good luck, thanks for the question.

[@Tlducken]

dre in the 616 Thank you, sir! Great video btw.

[@eljeffe1717]

Does this work for mesh snapback trucker style caps?

[@dreinthe616]

Well, stretching is not really needed for a snapback of course - but for shaping the crown and curving the visor it will depend on the construction. Most of the trucker style are A-frame with a single front panel that's been folded in the top center... and they probably don't have the buckram underneath that makes it stiff (check my video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmSZaJl9aNR2fbs for shaping the crown too). The visor should be formable (check my video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGbMZI2idq6AfZo for the latest) but the material may be different than in a New Era cap.

[@eljeffe1717]

Thanks for the reply. I have an unusually large head and I was given a mesh trucker snapback and I'm trying to stretch it out a little bit. The only way it fits is if I only use the very last snap (I hope that's what it's called) but it looks incredibly goofy that way