I see a few people commenting on this video, pointing out that Kain was never really angry or jealous at Raziel for evolving before him. Yes, I agree completely and I'm fully aware of this! As a matter of fact, I've mentioned it before a few times in previous LOK videos. This is also why I used the word "supposedly" at 17:10. I just didn't think I'd have to spell it out again here, but I see now that perhaps I should have clarified that point 😂. Anyway, with this video, I wanted to convey the story as if it was from Raziel's perspective and explain why he thought Kain sentenced him to abyss. At the time, Raziel is under the impression that by entering the state of change prior to Kain, he has committed an act of transgression and blasphemy against him, when in fact Kain didn't care and knew that he had to execute Raziel in order to create a being of free will, exempt from the wheel of fate.
@bloo_dergn5 ай бұрын
Literally a "please hold onto any comments till after the presentation" moment. 🤦♂️. At least they enjoy the game and aren't picking fights.
@twall914 ай бұрын
I thought that point was made pretty damn clear in this video lol 🤷♂️… but let it be known hereto and henceforth! NEVER underestimate your fellow man’s capacity for indelible stupidity
@fabioth2833 ай бұрын
I know Legacy of Kain and i know a bit Nosgoth.can you tell how is other games on this video?thanks
@charg1nmalaz0r51Ай бұрын
Can i ask, you contradicted the origin of Raziel and his brothers. In one sentence you said kain dipped into the underworld and snared 6 souls to raise his lieutenants and then you say he couldnt get to the underworld so he used portions of his own sould to raise them. Which is it?
@badmoonris1ng47619 күн бұрын
He had to use portions of his own soul mixed with their souls. He didn't contradict himself you just misheard him. @@charg1nmalaz0r51
@DavidStowers-o7k Жыл бұрын
Raziel's monologue at the beginning of Soul Reaver (along with the most kick-ass music ever.) is THE GREATEST video game opening of all time.
@papabird44256 ай бұрын
Information Society
@christiangottsacker69325 ай бұрын
The info society track goes so hard. Industrial crusade music. Always hypes me up. Man and the writing and voice acting are like cake and frosting
@altaccount87493 ай бұрын
Second only to hostile waters.
@Durdon233 ай бұрын
I have often thought the song by Breaking Benjamin, "I will not bow" would be great along side a video of soul reaver. Not to mention, the song it self, at times, sounds similar to the game music. I would be curious to hear yours and anyone else's thoughts on this after listening to the song
@papabird44253 ай бұрын
@@Durdon23 buttrock really has no place in Soul Reaver. Raziel wouldn't need to state his unbreakable nature. It is displayed in his being. The only thing that can kill Raziel is Raziel.
@arx35162 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that the reason why Kain wasn't able to turn living humans into vampires, the way Janos and Vorador did, was because Kain himself was turned using necromancy by Mortanius.
@tuckernutter2 жыл бұрын
But then how did Kain's lieutenants turn their clans? Can't all have been necromancy, right?
@alexinfinite71422 жыл бұрын
That would make a lot of sense
@pious832 жыл бұрын
@@tuckernutter It is possible. Remember the original narrative featured a Priestess and a cult that worshipped Kain. Willingly offering sacrifices to him would increase their ranks very quickly.
@OfnionGidnir2 жыл бұрын
@@tuckernutter If Kain wasn't able to do it, then it's very likely Raziel and the others couldn't either. Given that Kain's vampires saw themselves as rulers, then I assume they didn't go around raising each human they killed. A lot of thought had to go into carefully choosing who was deserving of the gift. Perhaps each clan would round up the corpses of those they deemed worthy, and then Kain would host a massive ceremony to raise all of them. At least that's how I imagine it would work using necromancy.
@MB-ko3mr2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I often wondered if that was the case too, I wonder was it also simply that vorador never showed him how to do it the more traditional way.
@GunnCloud112 жыл бұрын
It wasn't that Kain was angered by Raziel's evolution but rather because that was the sign he was waiting for to begin his real gambit against fate. He knew what Raziel would become and what he had been. It was his only foil to the wheel, to introduce Raziel as an entity free of it.
@Farron62 жыл бұрын
Exactly that, Kain knew the moment Raziel had his wings was when he was ready to become the Wraith from the visions he saw in Mobius' Time Chamber
@wareforcoin57802 жыл бұрын
But you don't know that until much later in the series.
@ceruleansunrise82612 жыл бұрын
This is what was intended by Amy later. However in the original cut ending you kill all the vampires with a sun device. It's funny if you watch a cutscenes compilation kain gets gradually less Darth Palpatine as the games go on 😁
@36AjT92 жыл бұрын
Uh actually kain killed raziel because of a "prophecy"- which was a manipulation via the giant tentacle monster only seen in the spirit world- trying to edge on raziel to kill kain- but raziel saw through the bullshit and became the soul reaver- was epic on all fronts.
@TheKain202 Жыл бұрын
@@ceruleansunrise8261 Still not jealousy. In the original script, the entire thing is Kain's grandiose and bombastic way of committing suicide. As he explains in the Chronoplast - free will is an illusion, and death apparently is not in the cards for him, so he's screwed unless he has a third, immune to destiny party to dupe into to do it for him. Few have the stamina for eternity and you could probably make a case for him low key conceding to Ariel that he fucked up, if the line about his guilty conscience at the pillars is anything to go by. Hell, dialogue pre-recorded for the original script made before the cuts, literally has Kain, Raziel and Ariel in the same room, both of them for once agreeing a egging Raziel to kill Kain, lmao.
@ampeater777 Жыл бұрын
I just can't get over how hard the intro of soul reaver is. The opening strains of ozar midrashim on top of the ten ton phrase "Kain is deified"
@ThrillHouse6662 жыл бұрын
After finally understanding the complex web that makes up the story. I felt a little bad for Kain. having knowledge of what will happen and being in this constant loop until his metaphorical coin finally lands on its edge. To see Raziel with his wings and almost instantly knowing what has to happen..at least in the end Raziel was still his right hand.
@strictlyfantasy2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, especially when you see the shock on Kain's face in the opening cutscene when Raziel first reveals his wings. That shocked face quickly turns grim as Kain understands the time has come to make his gambit.
@ThrillHouse6662 жыл бұрын
@@strictlyfantasy it's insane how so many small details early on in the game really come to light after you've fully understood the story. The meeting at the pillars is still my favorite scene! So much information is laid out before the player...we just didn't know haha anyway, absolutely love the videos! A pleasant surprise anytime they drop 🦇
@sethsword9680 Жыл бұрын
Also how Raziel wasn't a hypocrite. How in the end he chose integrity over self preservation and going into the sword knowing that this was his role to save Nosgoth.
@irishdc9523 Жыл бұрын
@@sethsword9680And this time, it was a rational informed choice as opposed to his earlier impulsive decisions
@SSGoatanks Жыл бұрын
They really need to revive this series with new comic books, tv series, or movies - LOK is so underrated 🖤🫀🖤
@monkeybone10802 жыл бұрын
After Defiance, I've always looked at the intro to Soul Reaver differently. His response to Raziel's evolution wasn't one of jealousy but the actions of a man who knew the time to challenge fate had arrived, and you can see in Kain's face before he tells the vampires to "cast him in" that it's not an easy thing for Kain. Was it intentional? Unlikely, I doubt they had planned the series that far (especially looking at the development of Soul Reaver) but it fits so well now that I think they must have looked back at this intro while crafting the rest of the series.
@strictlyfantasy2 жыл бұрын
You're right. It probably wasn't intentional given all the extra content they had to cut before Soul Reaver 1 was released. However, I love how they depicted Kain's facial expressions in the opening cutscene to the point where you can look at it retroactively and see that maybe this is not the face of a vampire who is filled with jealousy and rage but one with self doubt at the prospect of executing his favourite "son". It's like he's questioning himself whether or not he's doing the right thing but hardens his heart and goes through with it anyway because in the end what choice did he really have.
@gg-oe7tn Жыл бұрын
Kain couldn't bear to watch while the 2 brothers who threw raziel in obviously wanted to see him burn.
@EruditeMMA Жыл бұрын
Maybe but at the same time Raziel asks Kain later in the game “was it hard for you to cast me into the abyss” & Kain replies saying “no” lol
@TragoudistrosMPH Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was intentional. Main knew what was coming because of the time streaming devices. All the nuance was surely not planned out, but pretending jealousy to motivate Raziel's outrage and vengeance sounds easily plausible. Why else have the Famously sadistic Kain grimace when executing a traitor? Also remember Kain's reaction when the Reaver broke? That whole conversation was from someone with a few steps planned ahead. :)
@chrisreay7033 Жыл бұрын
I see his face as doubt, self loathing, and he looks away, not in distaste, but he can't look his son in the eye with guilt
@seanmanaloto3222 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful use of Elden Ring as a placeholder for a fleshed-out backstory of lieutenant-era Raziel, and I love how you went ahead and lent your voice to an unvoiced character (all the while managing to sound like an official character from the games). Your best video yet. Keep the fire of this series burning for us, until the legacy is revived!
@RevanBartus2 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame we never get more lore in Nosgoth, it had a massive potential.
@animechic4202 жыл бұрын
That’s why we need a prequel game about the six lieutenants during their vampire years.
@slinkyslink5161 Жыл бұрын
@@animechic420 so much potential
@jbeattie1244 Жыл бұрын
I agree we should get a prequel for this game series was epic an like a mature whisky all of them sit in my gaming library and play them regular and enjoy them just like the day of release
@gregrodgers107 Жыл бұрын
Surely they can’t leave this series on the shelf, story and voice cast destroy all of todays games to bits
@tengr0057 Жыл бұрын
@@animechic420 That would work. As long as they don't try to touch the main narrative.
@gregorymifsud5389 Жыл бұрын
The music as raziel is going out to meet Kain is etched in my brain. So good.
@HellGod672 ай бұрын
Ozar Midrashim is an iconic soundtrack
@waldirnacarath2 жыл бұрын
i dont want this series to end
@strictlyfantasy2 жыл бұрын
Fingers cross they remake it and if those games are successful, then maybe we can finally get a proper conclusion to the series.
@meesteranonymous81772 жыл бұрын
@@strictlyfantasy can't imagine lok without tony jay's voice
@strictlyfantasy2 жыл бұрын
@@meesteranonymous8177 Neither can I. That's why they should use the exisiting voice files for the Elder God when they remake it.
@Toto-95 Жыл бұрын
@@strictlyfantasy wanna hear something scary ? *"wE'Ve dEcIDEd to REmaKe tHe gAme TaIlOrEd tO A mODerNe aUdiEnCe !"*
@berserkercookie2645 Жыл бұрын
@@strictlyfantasy If Amy Hennig ain't on board who basically wrote this entire thing you can rest assured it will be epic garbage. She is the best of the best for a reason. Mark my words. If Amy Hennig is not on board RUNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@DarkEinherjar2 жыл бұрын
In Melchiah's video, we saw how he and his children behaved more like zombies than vampires... looking at this vampirism through necromancy, it feels like all vampires in Kain's empire are like zombies, or like the Phyrexians in the Magic: the Gathering series, where every person they slay ends up added to their ranks.
@glenngriffon80322 жыл бұрын
If you look at it from the humans perspective it's pretty nightmarish. One single vampire left in the world managed to raise an army of them and everyone they sent to kill the vampires, became one of them. It really is like a zombie apocalypse but if the zombies were not mondless, animalistic hoardes but thinking, intelligent creatures who could think and strategize and build structures and fight like a human.
@mackenziepenny1335 Жыл бұрын
How does necromancy give you that view over the original method of turning one into a vampire? Necromancy is much more complicated than merely biting someone.
@Alex-cq1zr8 ай бұрын
@@mackenziepenny1335 Ig cause it's harder to go for a bite in bite or smth, bit easier to just gather up enemy bodies and ritual them
@mackenziepenny13358 ай бұрын
@Alex-cq1zr I'd love to comment back, but that was 11 months ago idk what my point was lol.
@candletv65912 жыл бұрын
I've often wondered what Raziel and his brethren were up to during the dawn of Kain's Empire.. great video!!
@Deidriim Жыл бұрын
And thusly, by a stroke of a button, my heart was set in a ablaze of white-hot fire by the lore of Raziel. Rekindled memories of ages past, succumbed to the ires of time. Thought forgotten but lies in wait. But yet they lived. I salute you, lore master.
@tengr0057 Жыл бұрын
Torille.
@damienkrawczuk14352 жыл бұрын
A human Raziel game would be sweet as, gosh the legacy of Kain games blew my 19 year old mind in 1999 when soul reaver came out, and I absolutely love and proudly own the original Blood omen, this series inspired my long art career doing Fantasy Art, I sincerely hope by the Elder gods we get a new Legacy of Kain game before another Decade passes us by, absolutely fantastic video! Love your deep dives into anything legacy of Kain, take care till the next one 😎
@StoryNowStoryHorse Жыл бұрын
I got Blood Omen recently too, such good gameplay IMO!
@DavidStowers-o7k6 ай бұрын
Let's not forget, as driven as they were by their self-righteous beliefs, the original sarafain were only able to gain an advantage over the most powerful vampires due to moebius' anti-vampire staff. True, they were formidable warriors who, no doubt could easily handle newly turned fledglings by themselves, needed the staff of moebius to deal with the likes of Janos Audron. They were nothing short of cowardly bullies, made worse by the fact they used religious fervour as a cloak of legitimacy.
@aaronbryant8136 Жыл бұрын
A remake of legacy of kain would be huge. Instant success. I've had so many ideas of how a new installment can go forward. And your idea is awesome it goes with what I have in mind. Great minds think alike
@corpsethorn88211 ай бұрын
BRING LoK BACK!!! THE WORLD NEEDS THESE BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE!! SUCH INCREDIBLE GAMES!!
@JamieStagg17 күн бұрын
LoK soul Reaver 1 and 2 remastered are lit now...if they sell well enough then we will be getting a remaster of defiance and LOK 1and 2 as well...
@tengr0057 Жыл бұрын
Legacy of Kain -lore is to me most interesting there is. I love how much there is to the story and twists to each character. I love this series. Also Medievil was one of my first games that I loved and I have still my ps1 -copy. Anyway, there is something special about already dead characters that come beyond grave to fuck shit up, that is so awesome! Raziel, Sir Daniel Fortesque, Alucard (Castlevania - SotN) and the chosen undead in Dark Souls. All great games! Sori paska englanti. Finnish guy here. Love your channel, KEEP IT UP!
@dankestmemes24652 жыл бұрын
I love your content I click so fast when I see a strictly fantasy LOK video. You go so in depth and draw together amazing concepts.
@napoleoncomplex27122 жыл бұрын
I think Raziel's story is so powerful because it highlights not only the freedom but also the pain and the pitfalls that come with genuine choice. Raziel has free will but that means he has to be an island. He can never fully trust or put his faith in any one faction and he has to own his many many mistakes on his way to discovering the truth. It also highlights the limitations of free will as at the end of the series Raziel learns enough to know that through a combination of fate and his own actions up to that point his choices really do come down to one horrific fate. It's still a fate of his own choosing in the end but given his other option at that point it wasn't much of a choice at all in the end. I remember reading Ursula le Guin's Earthsea series. The main character Ged outlines that when you are young there are so many roads and branching paths one can take that it seems confusing and overwhelming. However over time your choices interact with the world around you to the point where your options narrow until there is only one path and one thing you MUST do. In life that might be the career you dedicate yourself to or for the less fortunate among us it might be the cause or the people you end up sacrificing your life or your future to protect. At the end of the day you get one shot at life and that is both the beauty and the harshness of it.
@Lerinome2 жыл бұрын
Hey SF. I'll take this chance that you just uploaded the video to tell you that I love your content and specially the LoK stuff. Keep up the good work, buddy!
@gamingrebel8768 Жыл бұрын
I just binge watched your whole Legacy of Kain series. These were incredible. Your deep love and passion for this series is evident in the care and time you put into your videos. It’s such a challenge to find those who still remember, let alone played these fantastic games. With the re-release of classics like chrono cross, dark alliance 1 and 2, and bloodrayne 1 and 2 I have a small amount of hope for this series as well as legend of lagoon and legend of legaia 1 and 2. I hope you’ll continue posting, because I’ll be there to witness your impressive content.
@legionofmetal9968 Жыл бұрын
4:20 i just gotta say this, that art piece of Kane, Raziel and the other clan leaders doing their own "last supper" scenario with the soul reaver on the table is hilarious and poetic irony given vampiric nature and the nature of the soul reaver. Genius!
@2236gaming2 жыл бұрын
This series of videos are pure treasure, I love to hear about the profile of every Kain's lieutenants.
@SAAMSANITY2 жыл бұрын
Im always so excited when another LOK video gets uploaded! I love this lore so much, so thanks for making these.
@JustanAI00 Жыл бұрын
It has been almost 20 years, still searching and learning clues about this fantastic story.
@ayoubmorjane77222 жыл бұрын
You're back, legacy of Kain series will live on!!
@daniell14832 жыл бұрын
Great video. Of all the eras of Nosgoth, the one I want to explore the most is after Kain condemned the Pillars and raised up the clans. The empire-building, the court intrigues, the war with humanity, and even their final victory and how the vampires enjoyed the spoils of domination. I think it is a great shame that we don't see more of this period, from Kain refusing the sacrifice to Raziel's execution. I'm not sure how this period of time would be best explored, either as a game, a book or something else, but this period is by far my most favorite to speculate about.
@upperdecker9992 Жыл бұрын
I'd love a remake. Best voice work ever. This is what made me get into reading and enhancing my vocabulary.
@caleblee85302 жыл бұрын
Finally. No news on legacy of kain officially but I still get these videos on the lore. Yay.
@righteousone8454 Жыл бұрын
You have the best KZbin channel on Legacy of Kain I absolutely love these series and you nailed so much info
@georgehouliaras72392 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a prequel during the Empire's days and see Raziel, his brothers and all the clans in their glory days but alas this will never happen now. This and a Vorador game would make excellent spin offs.
@Zentz292 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Why do you say it will never happen? They're bringing the series back, aren't they? Or did they scrap it?
@Trofim-f5y2 жыл бұрын
Don't be so sure.
@georgehouliaras72392 жыл бұрын
@@Zentz29 What's the point of bringing it back when none of the original people who worked on the games? Without the original writers, voices actors etc etc. I'm afraid it will flop badly should it ever return.
@Zentz292 жыл бұрын
@@georgehouliaras7239 Yeah, when I first saw and signed the petition to bring it back I was instantly worried about stuff like that. I don't know anything about the staff and whatnot that they are going to use though
@georgehouliaras72392 жыл бұрын
@@Zentz29 Exactly. I would love the Legacy of Kain to return and conclude the story but I don't think modern day developers can pull this anymore.
@THE_KIRYU2 жыл бұрын
Dude I was just watching your other videos on LOK this morning, impeccable timing
@Shadyme00 Жыл бұрын
I like that you dug up this priceless gem. Its always feels good to have nostalgic feelings and memories.
@Grorl2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always. Huzzah!
@theealkemistАй бұрын
fkn love that you made this and explained it this well!! looooove this story!! 😭
@ZornyPooh2 жыл бұрын
You never fail to deliver amazing videos!!! I admire your ability to put out videos filled with in-depth information about a game that is old and has hard to access information.
@derekhogan96852 жыл бұрын
Human Raziel: irredeemable asshole Undead Raziel: vampiric asshole Ghoul Raziel: noble soul He literally had to become undead twice to become a good person lol
@usern4metak3ns2 жыл бұрын
And then gets turned into a sword asshole and eats the souls of creatures it slashes and stabs
@TheKain202 Жыл бұрын
To be perfectly honest, he was still the same "vampiric asshole" until his final moments. Only his final sacrifice was truly noble. His existence as a wraith was first a force of pure vengeance, then cluelessly bouncing around being manipulated by everyone and their pets. He was entirely self-serving and taking refuge in a shroud of righteousness, but in the end he was in it for himself, no noble goals, first it was kill Kian, then figure out what the hell is going on, then get the hell out of dodge out of the Reaver's way. Only in his final moments did he commit to a truly selfless and noble act.
@lukejones7164 Жыл бұрын
Raziel was always a self-righteous asshole, no matter what species he becomes lol.
@usern4metak3ns Жыл бұрын
@@lukejones7164 well so was kain to many extents heh. But yeah
@lukejones7164 Жыл бұрын
@@usern4metak3ns At least Kain admitted it 😆, Raziel was an irrational hypocrite until he saw his human self kill Janos.
@ShinKyuubi Жыл бұрын
OH wow...I remember reading that comic since I was such a huge fan of the Legacy of Kain series...sadly it got lost over the years and I wish I still had it.
@AngerOfTheLand2 жыл бұрын
Kain was not MAD that Raziel evolved before him. Soul reaver was being narrarated by raziel, during a time when he knew nothing and only wanted to kill kain. Kain could already fly since Blood omen 1. Rahab was the only one that evolved before him. Kain wasn't mad at all, in his mind he was saying "FINALLY, took him long enough". Kain was waiting for the wings to appear then knew what he had to do from there. He'd been looking at thousands and thousands of timelines all leading to no life on nosgoth and him dying of thirst. (Elder god wasn't reincarnating souls, he was a parasite who was unleashed the moment the pillars fell. It grows over time because its just eating all the souls (life) on nosgoth. Eventually all life would end) Then Kain realized it was having 2 soul reavers in the same time period that allowed him to make COMPLETELY NEW paths, then he made his real plan.
@CatBxtchNami13 күн бұрын
Congratulations for explaining what he already explains in the video. Maybe you should watch the video to the end next time.
@reallyeasy1002 жыл бұрын
I've often wondered about the dynamics between the brothers and the clans during the 'Golden Age' of their kind. This video really helped put together what those relationships and dynamics might have been like. I really enjoyed how you highlighted the smaller domestic and petty dealings between clans and brothers, and also the more important high stakes political maneuvering that must have been present at all times. I completely agree that it would be a FASCINATING addition to the franchise to check out how Kain's empire rose to glory, through a Golden Era, and then to a time of decadence, decay, in-fighting and power struggles.
@LythonV662 жыл бұрын
I'm always excited to see a new video from you about Nosgoth. Thank you!
@remylebeau3089 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos bro. One of most well written video games ever created and your videos due it justice ✊🏾
@elmoisred6163 ай бұрын
Man im in love with this channel. I was absolutely spellbound by SR1 when I first put it in the PlayStation in 1999 as a child. Absolutely entranced by its prose, voice acting, and Shakespearean dialogue. The story was just so intriguing and engrossing. To this day I have not had an experience a the video game that resonated with me as much as Soul Reaver 1. I remember searching for that comic for years and finally finding it on eBay in my twenties. Completely stoked that they dropped the sequel graphic novel on Kickstarter recently which exploded past itys goal. Although the series has been dormant since the cancellation of Dead Sun and the underwhelming Nosgoth multiplayer game, It seems it still holds a place in the fan's hearts and cultural zeitgeist. Channels like these are such a treat to immerse myself in the lore again. Much obliged
@Hyperion-57442 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to play as a vampire raziel in a prequel to soul reaver. Good video strictly fantasy.
@PouresMaggie2 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your videos and I especially loved this one, since Raziel's vampiric days was also something I was curious about. I know it's too much to ask, but I hope you'll always have something to say about the LoK/SL series, because your videos are always a highlight to my day!
@truthmatters22902 жыл бұрын
thanks for awesome content and lore man awaiting your next video keep it up 💚🙏
@ChocolatierRob2 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to know the difference between Kain's necromantic vampires and the earlier vampires as sired from the Ancients. Was death a part of the process before Kain's time? It would seem not, if human Pillar Guardians had to be killed to turn them into vampires they they would get replaced as Guardians in becoming vampires (Kain was exempt from this technicality because the system was already broken by Nupraptor before Kain died). Perhaps in the earlier days vampirism was spread more like a blood infection as in other vampire media and the ignorant humans mentioned in SR1's manual _used_ to be correct until the rise of 'necromantic' vampires.
@strictlyfantasy2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Siring vampires in the eras of Janos and Vorador was very different to the method Kain used to create his armies in the pre-Soul Reaver time. The original turning of living humans into vampires was likely similar to how it is depicted in traditional vampire media. It seems using Necromancy to raise vampires only took place after Kain was raised by Mortanius. Once Kain discovered he couldn't create vampires in the traditional way, Kain likely took a page out of Mortanius' book and came up with this new method by leaning more into snaring souls from the underworld.
@rendymonyab2 жыл бұрын
I always had interpreted that line from the manual as more like a correction of human misinformation. Instead of saying that the souls of the dead are reanimated into corpses, more like vampires are corruptions of the soul not of blood. But more official clarification is always welcomed
@e.featherfire19992 жыл бұрын
The Ancients sired humans into vampires by sharing with them the Curse of the Hylden, as the Ancients are not vampires, the curse itself is vampirism: the bloodthyrst, the inmortality and sterility. Kain's vampirism resided in the cursed heart of darkness, maybe that's why every lieutenant raised was weaker than the last, as the power of the heart (lol) was supposed to instill un-life to just one corpse: his. That would explain why the vampire armies degenerated in the monster of SR1, as they are mere zombies with the Curse of the Hylden in them. Unable to die and mutated by the dark magic. Maybe even the Hylden didn't know what would happen after centuries of the curse, as I take it they likely thought the Ancients would commit suicide as a whole rather than be separated of their god. Edit: Now that I think about, they could very well pass the curse by having humans drink their cursed blood or eat their cursed flesh, so.... yeah.
@MB-ko3mr2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it was likely done through biting but i would speculate that it was more likely that the vampire had to bite the human and drain it almost completely of its human blood and then replacing the humans blood with vampire blood otherwise kain wouldn't have needed vorador to create vampires if it was done through a simple bite. And maybe only an an ancient vampire could perform this process.
@brokefangmagepunk3685 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that original vamps could breed regularly like humans but they lost that at the same time they received the blood curse. I might have missed it but is their ever explicit detail about voradors creation? Could he have a "heart of darkness" or other vamp body part implant that transferred the abilities and blood curse?
@Stalker950-l3x Жыл бұрын
Dude you´re amazing. Although there are no sequels / remakes / remasters to this series since years you somehow managed to revive this in it´s core with you lore videos, at least for me. Keep this up please.
@WickedJawa Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I had so much love for this series! Remakes would be loved 🥰
@jp1116 Жыл бұрын
I legit can't stop watching these videos for inspiration for writing and campaigns
@Kaidron62 жыл бұрын
One thing I've always been curious about. It's said rahab constantly submerged himself in water bracing the pain in an effort to guide his transformation to give himself the gift that he felt would give him the most attention. He proved this method worked as he indeed gained the ability to swim. Do you think the others guided their gifts too? And if not which gifts do you think they would of guided themselves to have.
@b_msq7217 Жыл бұрын
Always love watching these videos, keep up the awesome work!
@sw3ettouch Жыл бұрын
Thank you, for yet again blessing us with another gem of a video, regarding the best game of all time in my humble opinion.
@stealth5580 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I always thought Kain easily turned humans into Vampires because he had Janos Audron's (Elder Vamp) heart, which had the ability to restore Vampiric un-life and he was somehow able to project its powers.
@Morg8685 Жыл бұрын
i like your vids seriously, there is something charming and endearing in the presentation, everything in your vids are just beautiful
@guilherme50942 жыл бұрын
The opening remains so awesome, oh man, thanks for the video👍👍!
@justinstone4633 Жыл бұрын
I always thought Kain "killed" Raziel because he knew using the time streaming chambers the Wraith Raziel would become, would be after he had wings and saw Raziel's wings growing as the trigger for Kain's plan to subvert the Hyldan to begin.
@PoliteTia Жыл бұрын
Your graphics were wonderful. Thank you
@theterribleyoutuber73762 жыл бұрын
To see raziel and brothers as vampires would be a great game! You got some great ideas!
@SifuSonic9 ай бұрын
Loved every minute of this
@chaddavid1037 Жыл бұрын
I made a vampire Raziel as well in elden ring!!! Awesome bro! Yours is better. I love the way you incorporated your videos into this video.
@Whykickamoocow Жыл бұрын
What a phenomenal series LoK is. I wish we had more, or i could forget and play them all new again
@DougBull-p4q Жыл бұрын
Can we appreciate just how cool his wings were i never seen such a cooler and original looking wing design
@reallyeasy1002 жыл бұрын
This video also provided a rather gut-wrenching 'fridge horror' realization. When Rahab came out as semi-acquatic, then there must have been nothing but pride for him exhibited by Kain. I'm imagining not only special territories and favours but also much feasting and celebrations to congratulate Rahab and his clan. The rest of the brothers (and the clans) must have been burning with jealousy, lol. Raziel must have expected exactly the same reception. Special territories, favours, missions, congratulations and feasts. Which makes it all the more gut-wrenching to watch that happy, proud moment turn into blood and agony.
@YanM13462 жыл бұрын
Lol been binge watching your vids about LOK all day and here u are, releasing another great vid and about Raziel no less!! Keep up the great work, got yourself another newly pledged vampire in the subs ;)
@tommyg03 Жыл бұрын
Everytime you post LOK I look forward to see what new different stuff you introduce, only one ik who does LOK fw the channel 💯
@patriksvensson2360 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, thank you for this video. It's been quite some time since I've been down the rabbit hole of the Legacy of Kain series. Secondly, I would absolutely love the chance to revisit these games, their world, characters and lore in a more modern take - the mere thought about playing Soul Reaver as the developers first intended it gives me chills of excitement! - and given how mind-boggingly detailed and well-crafted the story was back then I have every reason to believe it would be quite the something. Bioshock often gets mentioned for it's play on free will (and rightfully so), but it's got nothing on a series of games that transcends time, fate, death and rebirth in order to challenge the notion of free will, choice and breaking away from the dichotomous outcome of any given moment. It was, and is, a masterclass of storytelling and philosophical engagement that I've yet to see any other game come close to achieving. As all vampires after the first Blood Omen game stem from Kain, infused with his soul (either directly, as his lieutenants, or indirectly through them), it's no wonder they share a knack for the conspiratorial drama described to fend off the boredom of the vampiric courts - imagine being Kain, knowing all along what must transpire and for how long he has to pretend and wear a mask just to be given an opportunity to land that coin on its edge, still not knowing if it will grant him the desired outcome. The patience and resolve of that man is the stuff of legends.
@vanyadolly Жыл бұрын
I'm always amaxed at how well they fleshed out Raziel's previous personality and that of the lieutenants purely through dialogue after the fact, even when the Raziel we're introduced to after his fall is quite different.
@LegacyofKainisBack6 ай бұрын
I'm always rewatching your analysis vid and let's say with the prequel graphic novel coming soon, this vid is perfect ❤
@arsonne Жыл бұрын
17:09 It's been a while since I've played the series buuuut.. I'm pretty sure that Kain had already somehow glimpsed the prophecies of what was to come, and in the opening scene of Soul Reaver he already knew what Raziel was/was to become based off seeing his wings.
@SolarinDay2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos man
@jonathanduchesne8437 Жыл бұрын
i always enjoy your attention to detail
@pious832 жыл бұрын
I'd love to read a book (or multiple) from Amy Hennig, charting the ascension of the Clans. Also covering their fall from grace. How each Lieutenant (aside from Raziel) ended up where they did.
@alexinfinite71422 жыл бұрын
I would throw SO MUCH money at that
@icecrown73242 жыл бұрын
Man I almost opened the chronoplast for you glad u posted
@jaimemazusferreira46329 ай бұрын
Kain fear not the Raziel's wings itself, but the fact that wings was Hylden wings. As was presented on SR2 ending (history changing and Blood Omen as a result) after SR2 events Kain become awere of Hylden. Those wings proofs it
@SolarinDay Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, so apologies if it's not. But I'd love to see a video where you talk about Fate vs. Free Will in the Legacy of Kain Seires. And how Raziel having it was so crucial. Also, that in his final act in Defiance, Raziel also gave that free will to Kain. My theory is, Raziel only gained Free Will after the wraith blade was bound to him, as his soul was now in two places at the same time. Making him a walking paradox. This paradox was compounded dramatically in the events of Soul Reaver 2 when his soul was in THREE places at once, allowing history to be redirected. Now, in Defiance, Raziel went into the Reaver, and he gave the Wraith Blade to Kain. Meaning so long as Kain has the Soul Reaver, Raziel's soul is still in two places at once, meaning Kain might now have free will so long as he has the blade.
@lucasborba6112 жыл бұрын
marvelous video dude, congrats
@lilsean5864 Жыл бұрын
I love this bro keep up the Great work.
@animaldrew2279 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid as usual. Would love to see one on the stuff that ended up on the cutting room floor. Like the High Priestess and whether or not she ended up being Uma from BO2.
@gerardmurphy8278 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would remake the full series , loved the games
@roberttousley8403 ай бұрын
guess what
@lunaflower45072 жыл бұрын
Another great video, it would be so nice to see Kains mental state over the years that lead him to know he had to restore the land
@SatiricalAcuteMeta42 жыл бұрын
I always thought of it as, kain was never angry with Raziel about evolving earlier, it was simply that he had already interacted with the time streaming device and knew what Raziel was ' destined' to become. The wings were an affirmation of this and naturally angered one who was so bent on breaking free from the wheel. But without his favourite son going into the abyss, his plan for subverting destiny could not be played out. Essentially, Raziels revelation of his wings was like a kick to kains balls saying " This is where it starts". I was 10 years old when I played soul reaver, I'm now 31 so I could be misremembering things but so far as i can remember; Kains words were " when I first stole into this chamber, centuries ago" Centuries ago is a broad term and doesn't really tell us when Kain first encountered the chamber. That makes it hard to imagine what kind of foreknowledge he had during raziels lifetime.
@Sela1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping the legacy of Legacy of Kain alive!
@darriushall396 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I loved this video. Great story telling
@blakeonidas8005 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid my man
@jacquelinegiordano432 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making these videos. I love the LOK franchise so much, maybe too much, lol! As a suggestion, perhaps you could do one on the "religions" of Nosgoth. There are some interesting murals in SoulReaver in the Silenced Cathedral and Stone Glyph that always made me wonder what they represented. They could be interpreted as Elder worship or perhaps something else.
@1Tekkaman2 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating video. I find it of particular interest that the only brother who really had it in for Raziel was Zephon. Indeed, Raziel despite his bitterness seems to speak of Dumah in particular in tones of respect. I certainly agree with your comments at the end, about how the rise of Kain's empire would be a fascinating period to explore. Preferably with more than just Raziel playable; it would be interesting to go through as one of the other lieutenants. I look forward to your more speculative video.
@ap0kalyps32 жыл бұрын
I love the theory, that the Kain who throws Raziel into the Abyss is either the future Kain who already knows about wraith Raziel, or he is the Kain from this period of time who was advised by a timetraveling future Kain, to do this since Kain is no stranger to timetravel, he would understand why a future version of him comes and asks to throw his first born son into the abyss, he also probably already has aspirations to cure Nosgoth, seeing how the planet is at the end of its life
@sypherthe297th2 Жыл бұрын
Its an interesting thought but the only entity shown to be a be to be in its own presence from different time periods is the Reaver (with Raziel's soul eventually being imprisoned in the blade) and could be the reason it can induce paradoxes. I believe that Kain got his foreknowledge by viewing the future from the Oracle Caves and, later on, directly traveling to different ages to piece together the conspiracy. Its not entirely clear if there is a hard rule preventing two Kains from being in the same place or not but it never occurred as far as I recall. The exception to everything I just said though is Raziel meeting his human self. But even though they share the same soul (having been recalled from the underworld) they are fundamentally two different people who do not share memories. Idk. Soul Reaver is an incredible series but there are minor gaps in its narrative as to how events u folded and why that one has to overlook to truly enjoy the series. Amy Hennig is a brilliant worldbuilder but its obvious that the story was built up as she went along. All in all, it came together extremely well. If LoK and SR are ever remade those gaps can be fixed properly.
@alexinfinite71422 жыл бұрын
I was not aware that the process that Kain used to sire new vampires was different from Vorador or Jano's. What were the differences? I've always found it somewhat obscure how vampires reproduced in the franchise
@Kite403 Жыл бұрын
As far as I understand, Kain used part of his life force to draw back the souls of his sons to their mostly-intact corpses and empowered them to rise again (much like raising a zombie with necromancy.) Raziel and his brothers would then do the same process to raise their own clans. In that way, every vampire by the time of Soul Reaver 1 was (distantly) connected to Kain, who was indeed their Creator and Progenitor
@Xizax41325 Жыл бұрын
I love how when you come back to the opening scene after the later games it gives that little pause kain does before ordering raziel cast in more context. I imagine kain sitting there for a moment realising he is about to damn his favourite son to this but it's all for the greater good.
@Xizax41325 Жыл бұрын
I view kains betrayal as him knowing everything from hopping through time and whatnot. When he saw that Raziel evolved wings he knew what had to be done. That casting Raziel into the abyss would set into motion the events that would eventually allow Kain to succeed his plans. The lieutenants took kain's actions as a way to be rid of raziel's clan. So they went on a murder spree. That being said, I am not heavily familiar with the lore, never having played soul reaver 2. Just blood omen, soul reaver 1, and defiance.
@darklordmalthric36332 жыл бұрын
You should cover the Sarafan history
@SleepingOni2 жыл бұрын
Man I really hope that Legacy of Kain survey that was circulating is a sign that this will be remade or remastered.
@Nightbanekaizer2 күн бұрын
I am a year late to watching this video. However this is probably the most important video you've produced since the Soul Reaver Remaster just released.
@HazzardousEco2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great LoK breakdown Strictly! Also, I loved how you worked in Elden Ring scenes as well =)
@dutch75642 жыл бұрын
I have little time however I make sure I have small pockets to sit and drink strong coffee while I listen to these amazing videos. The outside world nor the people i have to endure know of my obsession. Very greatful 🙏
@skeletikgames Жыл бұрын
Great work. I like that you cover the dormancy tradition because it was important regardless of the SR2 reveal that there was more to Raziel's condemnation. There is a fan game covering Raziel's vampire days, search Soul Reaver Prequel here on KZbin if you want to see. Look for my skull icon. Awesome job with this video.
@mothius238 Жыл бұрын
A TV series about the this era of the vampire Raziel would be great too.
@DavidStowers-o7k6 ай бұрын
An animated TV show similar to Netflix's Castlevania, would be nothing short of FUCKING AWESOME!
@justinstone4633 Жыл бұрын
Wraith Raziel saw that souls are hunted and consumed in the spectral plane by the lifeforms there, if not the Elder God. Human Raziel died the same day Vorador attacked the circle, which led to the pillars selecting new Guardians at birth, including Ariel, who died as an adult which led to Kain's birth and selection as a pillar guardian and he died when he was 30yo, so Raziel and the other Sarafan were dead for at least 50 years. It's highly unlikely Raziel's original human soul survived in the spectral realm for 50 years.