Strike Fighters 2: Bombing Tutorial and Mission Editor

[@frosty5122]

Another great informative video, I would have never figured out how to use those old bombsights correctly by myself. I'm too reliant on the CCIP and using laser-guided or GPS-guided bombs when it comes to bombing runs. Awesome job👍

[@ghostdog688]

I noticed during the dive bombs on the F4 your last 6 bombs go long. I’m sure you’re aware of why, but for the benefit of your readers, it’s because you are pulling back on the stick while still releasing. You can remedy this if you are flying by either shotrtening the bomb release interval, or delaying the pull-up (or a bit of both).

[@devinhorner2358]

Great point, thank you. I like to let the last few bombs go long and walk through the target, in case I dropped them short. But if you're looking for more precision, follow ghostdog's pointers above.

[@Roddy_Zeh]

Great, Devin! Thanks for making that video! I'm slowly getting the hang of bombing with the A-6, but the fighters still prove quite a struggle...from 10 trials, I miss 9.5 of them, lmao! I hope to sharpen my skills after watching your vid. Thanks again! ^^

[@devinhorner2358]

I have faith in you.

[@mccoogy]

Wow impressively comprehensive.

[@googleisshittoss]

Great video...I've just got back into this sim...and that's pointed me in the right direction...thank you

[@JoeCool_1962]

Excellent

[@WORELOF]

Great tips!! I am new to Strike Fighters 2. Great bombing tutorial. Really helped ,especially the level bombing runs . I thank you ....but the VC surely dont LOLOLOLOL

[@McGrump]

Great video as always, sir. One thing that always annoyed me (being the nitpicker I am) about SF2 is you can't adjust the gunsight depression in these older aircraft. I've seen some of the charts from the old weapon employment manuals that you'd use to workout your release profile, aircraft weight and drag, etc., and would all result in a number of mils to depress the pipper (for whichever specific weapon) to put it on target at the point of release. You're right on that bombing precision wasn't what it is today with CCIP/CCRP and so on, but you still had the tools to get pretty close. I can see why it didn't make it into SF2 given the complexity it adds. I believe you can modify depressions in the .ini's, but that doesn't help much unless you fly the same release profile every mission. Still, the walkthrough on using the TLAR tools we have was informative and appreciated.

[@devinhorner2358]

There's another Bob Stevens strip that shows a hotshot pilot using the bombsight as a handhold when he climbs in, then hitting a target 3 miles away from what he was aiming at haha. And you're right, you can adjust the air-to-air gunsight and air-to-ground depressions in the ini's, but can't do it in flight. I guess it would be more immersive to be able to adjust in flight, but wouldn't we need charts for every individual fighter then? I don't think I have the shelf space for all those binders :) I think as far as fun factor/game mechanics, I'm ok with 50 degress/500 kts putting bombs right in the pickle barrel for most of these planes.

[@McGrump]

Totally agree from a gameplay perspective. I'm a sci-fi and guns nerd so nitpicking's kind of in my blood, and I'd make the shelf space somehow, but I can't imagine the developers wanted players to have to go to that hassle. It's like the old Battletech joke: one pilot says he's run out of hardpoints for more weapons on his mech, and the other simply responds that he's not trying hard enough. Now to go practice some pop-up runs...

[@devinhorner2358]

@@McGrump Haha! Oh, man, Battletech. I miss the old Mechwarrior games, great music. I'm also a sci-fi and guns nerd, so I get you. And I DO have a pile of manuals and checklists right by the computer for FSX, and even some Train Simulator ones. Good luck with your runs.

[@brycedahlke9078]

I was just looking online for a good tutorial for bombing without ccip. NICE!

[@deciopenna]

This content is great in so many levels. The ammount of information here is greater than all the material available I've found. Great work! Please keep up with more informative videos like this! Would love to see a video with tactics in evading and destroying SAMs, for example. Also, many addon aircraft use the same standard avionics of other stock planes so everyone whoudl work the same right?

[@devinhorner2358]

I don't know if the SF2 radar mechanics work exactly like they do in real life, but here is a video you may find helpful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3fSq2mEjaeFaNk Sounds like you're still having SAM problems in Desert Storm XD (I know what you mean, I tried a campaign there too and its pretty intense) Yes, many addon aircraft use the same avionics so everything works pretty close to the same.

[@deciopenna]

@@devinhorner2358 yeah, sometimes sams there seem pretty impossible to get through. But I am getting better :) Right now did as you recommended and created some missions to practice a2a missile, radar and rwr operation with hud turned off.

[@devinhorner2358]

@@deciopenna Great to hear, man! Yeah you can lay down some practice SAMs to dodge and hone your skills.

[@DavidKing-ph8or]

Giggity - love it!!

[@teotoniocarvalho]

Excelente vídeo! Obrigado. 👏👏👏

[@thejetfighter]

Still a spot on tutorial 😀

[@ronaldwatson1951]

Good instructions and basics, thanks

[@cscdvmp]

This is still valueable! Thanks

[@stanstanislav1471]

Marvelous video. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@UeberLandUndMeere]

you are the number 1

[@rogerdarkman157]

Great tutorial, need more.

[@MrPyro91]

the best tuts for this game

[@grucker01]

Where can the A6 be flown in SF2? I don't see the aircraft available. I have the original and patched. Is this included in the mission / campaign editor or the new $100 version at Thirdwire? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

[@edrohhhhhhhhh]

This tutorial comes a bit late . I played this gem in 2016.

[@msmsbls5729]

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[@miatownsend_valrise]

Thanks

[@Saguanay]

Nice bit of work.

[@DanSpotYT]

Very nicely done!

[@JoeCool_1962]

my favourite attack mode is low level and high speed bombing run

[@kperez3870]

Thanks for the great tutorials! I've been practicing (also reading some notes/tutorials on CombatAce) but it seems I am doing something wrong as I can't hit anything with GBUs or HARMs :(

[@MikeHalk100]

Another question, Devin: Is there a proper _Mission Editor_ available somewhere, or are we stuck with modifying already-created ones? My OCD is triggered by that black objective circle that can't be deleted (not to mention the waypoints I can't completely delete).

[@kylebrady969]

Trying to use these techniques so I can get better at ground attack. Definitely needs tons of practice, but I could use advice on how bombing runways works in this game. Is it the entire strip or just the portion of the runway that is enclosed by the target reticle?

[@devinhorner2358]

I'm pretty sure I've hit any part of the runway and it counts, but some single mission experimenting might be a good idea just to confirm that

[@kylebrady969]

@@devinhorner2358 So I've been trying. I recently downloaded the custom "The Range" map and have been using it to practice bombing. I've pounded the runways all along the length with both 750 and 500lb bombs and it doesn't register the hits.

[@devinhorner2358]

@@kylebrady969 That's bizarre. I KNOW I've destroyed runways in the past. Need bigger bombs maybe? 1k or 2ks? maybe they're not doing enough damage to get it over the threshold

[@toonsis]

great video, I will just roll over first...who would push such a negative G

[@zort_rik]

Hello, I want to launch air-to-air missiles and launch air-to-ground missiles from the customization settings in Strike Fighters 2.

[@the_eagle_of_masyaf]

Is there any way to download the mission editor for the game?

[@s3viking214]

Man i wish I would of know this all these years ago in WoE

[@tipulamgnasiyod3943]

The problem in default campaign in Strike Fighters 2 Europe, is that I cannot use any targeting pods in my F-16. Its hard to use air to ground weapons if the mission objective is to destroy enemy battle tanks in the ground. I edit my aircraft.cfg file, loadout file, and also use weapon editor. Adjusting availabilities, years to be active, export availability, etc. ☹ Edit: If you know the solution to how to enable to use targeting pods in campaing mode. Please inform here. Targeting pods are not available in default campaign. But I can access addon weapons, even modern ones. (I edit most of them) Thanks and more power! 😉

[@KapiteinKrentebol]

Please tell me how I can "lase" groundtargets that aren't selectable by pressing "E"? In older sims like TFX and Tornado this was a lot of fun.

[@devinhorner2358]

In the key binding settings you can set a button to select the target nearest to the gunsight. I use this to be able to target buildings or scenery items. The precision bombs should guide to them at that point

[@KapiteinKrentebol]

@@devinhorner2358 Thank you very much, I'll try that.

[@austral2534]

Hey there! Great video, any way to edit the fuse time of the bombs?

[@devinhorner2358]

Yes, if you edit the .dat files in the mod folder under objects\weapons, there are some fusing options you can adjust

[@austral2534]

@@devinhorner2358 thx! Tho it's quite uncomfy to do that... i wonder why the devs didnt add such simple thing in their Game

[@mattatenta1444]

I tried to set the bomb ripple and the bomb interval, but the hud never tells me any info on either of these things? I have the hud on btw.

[@devinhorner2358]

I have found that turning the Hud to easy or medium in the options keeps those notifications on

[@mattatenta1444]

@@devinhorner2358 I've tried to set it to easy, but it dosen't it still doesn't show these notifications

[@wardogangsta3992]

Hey Devin did the f9f cougar fought in Vietnam or if it just something made up?

[@devinhorner2358]

Apparently it did! The Navy had retired it from front line service in 1959, but the Marines used the 2 seat trainer version as Forward Air Controllers in 66-68. They were based at Da Nang and Chu Lai.

[@wardogangsta3992]

@@devinhorner2358 thanks for dropping these bomb facts for me

[@devinhorner2358]

@@wardogangsta3992 woot woot

[@MikeHalk100]

Devin, what do each of the map's grid squares measure?

[@devinhorner2358]

They're 5x5 nautical miles

[@MikeHalk100]

@@devinhorner2358 Thanks!

[@ricardoennis502]

How do I use gbu in the modern one

[@tavolo2969]

How and where a can I play it?

[@devinhorner2358]

Thirdwire.com sells the game. Its under the Windows 7 programs, but it still works on new systems

[@tavolo2969]

@@devinhorner2358 👌🏻

[@Pierre051286]

Where did you get the A-6 Intruder?

[@devinhorner2358]

It comes in the Vietnam Expansion pack mod, linked in the description.

[@brayanfelipeserrano6486]

@@devinhorner2358 Any interest over when thunder rolled project at combatace?

[@Tutoriaistv123]

How do you get a first person boot on your mobile phone version for free?

[@seanyuda6204]

Where can I get the mission editor?

[@devinhorner2358]

It can be found here at the Thirdwire store. Its in the SF2 Expansion #2. store.thirdwire.com/store_w7_all.htm#ShowMore It can also be found in the free download in the description link.

[@bernardhouehou3346]

Pc or mobile

[@muhammedahmed4063]

How to get this game ?

[@devinhorner2358]

At Thirdwire.com, under the Windows 7 products

[@ruggerorandisi7785]

Is that normal that I cannot reach the maximum real life speed with aircrafts? For example: the maximum speed of a F14 Tomcat is Mach 2.4 in real life Why the max speed I can reach with the Tomcat in game is only 1.4? Same for Eagle and other planes I tried, they never reach the real life speed in game Is it a game limitation for some aircrafts or simply the game does not portray realistic planes speed?

[@devinhorner2358]

The max speeds are for clean planes at specific altitude, usually around 35000 feet where the air is thin but not too thin. Most references list what that altitude is (like M2.5 @38,000). Also remember that it can take a while to reach that speed. My experiments woth the Vietnam jets has shown that they reach the real world max speeds, but youd probably never see it in combar

[@ruggerorandisi7785]

@@devinhorner2358 so in combat, planes usually fly at Mach 1.4 or similar speeds lower than maximum one And if I’d go at 35k feets or more I technically should reach Mach 2.4 with the Tomcat in game too But planes speeds are true to their real life counterparts in SF2 Is that what you’re saying?

[@devinhorner2358]

@@ruggerorandisi7785 Yes that's correct, at least for the planes I have experimented with. Keep in mind that many of the addon planes are mods so their quality can vary, but planes do seem to have correct speeds

[@devinhorner2358]

@@ruggerorandisi7785 so yeah, at 35,000 ft I just got the F-14A+ to max out at 2.36. That's with nothing else on board and used up most of my fuel, but that also how they get the numbers in real life

[@ruggerorandisi7785]

@@devinhorner2358 I usually fly planes from vanilla SF2 games and those from ODS mod They should all have realistic speeds right? (I haven’t downloaded any other addon plane)

[@solidkreate5007]

Where do I get this!!!?

[@devinhorner2358]

Thirdwire.com is re-releasing the game soon for Windows 10. The links to the mods I use are in the video description.

[@solidkreate5007]

@@devinhorner2358 Yeah I saw that, but $50? For an 8yr old game?

[@devinhorner2358]

I know, I dont agree with the pricing either. But, DCS charges 90 bucks for a single airplane, which I think is outrageous. It's just a matter of personal preference what we're willing to spend on. For me, I factor in that the sf2 mod community has more content than one person can ever get too, and it's all free. I dont need cutting edge graphics, but I do really want dynamic campaigns. So lots of little factors. I say if you think you'll have fun playing a game, its worth the price, and if not, theres nothing wrong with not throwing money away 👍

[@solidkreate5007]

@@devinhorner2358 $90 for which module? The most expensive is the Tomcat. I own quite a few. DCS is also far more advanced than this. Dont get me wrong I thinks its great to have a Vietnam centric Air combat Sim. This one is for casual players though. If this was $29.99 I could see it. All they are doing is charging $50 for a patch because they have the only F4 to fly over Nam? Have they seen IL-2's MOD collection? I wish them luck but I can't justify opening my wallet for a patch.

[@devinhorner2358]

@@solidkreate5007 I understand completely.