strongest diesel-hydraulic locomotive with one engine - Voith Maxima 40 CC

This is the strongest diesel-hydraulic locomotive with one engine in the world. The locomotive was build in Kiel/Germany from the company Voith turbo and now she is transport goods trucks in Bremerhaven/Germany.

[@rechelieu]

@moparsbymosher Come one. I live in America and love American locos, but you can't deny beauty of this loco. It is awesome looking. I wish we had some variety of design in America. Always the same look no matter how pretty. In Europe they care more about aesthetics.

[@eisenbahnnord]

Super Video

[@UFOterror]

yes, its true, but EMDs and GEs are diesel-electric locomotives and the voith maxima is a diesel-hydraulic.

[@rechelieu]

Beautiful German gal!!! Love from the first sight!!!

[@TrainsInRomania]

Awesome presentation!

[@kdlehel]

and is still is the world strongest diesel hidraulic locomotive. voith maxima 40cc.

[@irelandbloke]

Very nice

[@kdlehel]

One thing to clear down here. Voith it is a nem and they was the first who build the strongest DIESEL HIDRAULIC locomotive. If anyone is who not knows what is diesel hidraulic locomotive I suggest to search after it. This locomotives are not build by estetics, it is build for traction. when usa will get on that levels of railroading what has already europe? this loco has all wat is important on fright service. only WC not has what is in usa locomotives.

[@easyamp123]

@Fincut81 Some very popular european locomotives like the class 66 is just an emd sd70 with a different car body on it. There are many; euro 4000, class 59, many gtXX series, jtxx series. Emd and GE have locomotives all over the world cause they are the best.

[@vladimir2366fa]

Thanks you, Videos very nice,

[@UFOterror]

song name: clubbed to death by Rob Dougan

[@kdlehel]

for movie unstoppable one of this kind of locomotive could stopped all that train. Coupled on rear but the coupler not fitting.

[@easyamp123]

@kdlehel the Emd sd70 and above meet the tier 2 emissions set by the EPA. They are very efficient and are very powerful. Every fourth stroke out of a GE produces power, every second stroke out of an EMD produces power. Do the math

[@kdlehel]

@easyamp123 you can name it the strongest diesel hidraulic locomotive in the world. I understand you anyway. The hidrotech technology here in europe is advanced ant Voith Turbo is the best one. We belive on it we use it and we are satisfied. Voith has a factory in kiel Germany near vosloh and caterpillar factories. Germany has a name for his precision. Check voith gravita locomotives in locomotive program tey build it the strongest sunter locomotive what has 3000hp c,c same DHL locomotive.

[@easyamp123]

@Fincut81 You probably should do a little research before say something. Sd80 has vary advanced electronic traction control. Aggressive wheel slip/creep control, AC traction motors, self steering htc trucks which help keep all the wheel equally on the track. This is how it achieves such a high cohesion factor of up to 45%.

[@derlukass]

Sehr schönes Video!

[@kdlehel]

@easyamp123 ok man i understand you. take it easy. All the bests.

[@kdlehel]

Anyone can say everything. This locomotive is a myth. He recived the Red Dot award on his design. And is true to The Voith Maxima 40CC it is the STRONGEST Diesel Hidraulic locomotive in the world! This works well and can not be compared with anything.

[@easyamp123]

@haisano you got your numbers wrong again. the ES58ACI is a 5800hp variant from GE not matching the ac6000

[@easyamp123]

@kdlehel How so? The US tried out hydraulic diesel locomotives in the beginning of diesel exploration and found them to be inferior to diesel electric. Not only that an EMD sd90Mac would pull this thing like crying baby leaving the toy store.

[@Kilingme]

@coalminer666 I know a country that still have diesel-hydraulic trains, since 70's and they are working until now without major problems.

[@easyamp123]

@kdlehel i understand you, but you are wrong about your numbers. 2 stroke diesels produce almost twice the hp per cubic inch versus a 4 stroke. Also two strokes are so much simpler reducing cost, wear, maintenance, and time between overhaul. Also where do you think the electricity to run those locos come from, magic no I don't think so. It's hydro/wind (best) nuclear (ok) coal ( same as the us) or diesel (same as the us) just some info.

[@ModelingSteelinHO]

Krauss Maffei built an earlier Diesel Hydraulic Locomotive for Southern Pacific & Rio Grande here in the US in the 60's. It wouldn't handle the Mountain grades of the western US coupled with the fact the Krauss-Maffei locomotive was the US railways mechanics nightmare. Present day, I'd like to see how the Voith Maxima would handle the same grades. I bet they wouldn't break a sweat. I like all countries Railroads no matter the specifications of their Locomotives.

[@ArrowBast]

Europeans should test theirs in the Alps & pyrenees before selling it for the Rockies then . Alps are higher than the Rockies in lower 48.

[@ModelingSteelinHO]

@@ArrowBast Agreed. Although testing would have required different track gauge in the Alps for American locomotives. Not cost effective. It surely would have separated the locomotives traction effort.

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

@@ArrowBast the Alps were much shorter runs then the Rockies, and the tunnels were increbily long in the Rockies. Even then, the issue was more with the Maybac engines then the transmission. If an American company had tried to use Diesel Hydraulic in that situation with a more reliable engine, it might have turned out different.

[@peer2696]

Nächster halt bremerhaven wulsdorf xd haste gut gemacht :D

[@easyamp123]

@kdlehel you know it is a beautiful locomotive and I appreciate it's hydraulic drive system, I only had a problem with ufoterror's title for this vid. While the Voith locomotive is a great leap in hydro technology it cannot be said that it is the most powerful locomotive. That's all I've been saying

[@dirkmunk8352]

Yes it is. Power is measured in kW, not in tractive effort.

[@easyamp123]

@kdlehel please do your homework, diesel hydraulics are old technology. They are not bad technology obviously, but were tried and declined by many manufactures. Limitations and losses in fluid transmission from the primary pump to the hydraulic motors were fixed by electrical transmission. And I like how you speak of traction, look up an old american EMD sd38 built almost 40 years ago. They only have a 2000hp engine yet deliver 400kn+ of tractive effort. The most powerful locomotive 500kn+ hmmm

[@drift13b]

song should be, im gonna close my head in a car door, im tired of hearing this song on every youtube video.

[@nkproad777]

Nope you are wrong: EMD SD80MAC: 5,000 HP 3.7 MW Continuous tractive effort 653.89 kn GE AC6000CW: 6,250 HP 4,660 KW Continuous tractive effort 740 kn Both these US made engines use 1 prime mover, and are much, much more powerful. Hey if you don't believe me, look at what the Australian's use on there long ore drags. This German thing may be powerful, but not close to the most powerful, shoot, a SD70ACe is about more powerful.

[@easyamp123]

@UFOterror wtf r u talking about, all the loco's I mentioned have only one engine. I didn't even mention the GE AC6000 it's got a drawbar pull 200,000+ foot pounds. The voith 40cc is however the most powerful diesel hydraulic locomotive in the world but that's because it's the only one. Do your homework

[@stevieextreme]

chuck norris would drive that

[@peer2696]

die alte rosa evb :D

[@easyamp123]

@kdlehel my initial complaint was the title being inaccurate. All I've tried to do is point out other locomotives that are stronger, my comment on doing your home work still stands. I'm not saying anything about your country or your locomotives being better or worse. I'm only pointing out the facts if those facts make your locomotives look weak and a little behind it's not me it's just the facts.

[@bradstrains]

@easyamp123 The SD80 isn't even the strongest! The SD90 and AC6000 (both American) have 1 engine and are rated at 6250 HP and 205,000lbs starting TE!

[@Sharptooth100]

Perhaps later in life, diesel locomotives might produce 20,000hp if they double the locomotive length.

[@kdlehel]

@easyamp123 look man. I learned and we use these technologies. I know every part of diesel engine, the hidrodinamic technologies i know even your emd engines and we see if is god or not. Here i a type of locomotive called the gm class65 has emd engine.has 2100hp diesel electric and his engine consume one day more than on other 4 stroke engine. 4 stroke here is much better and more powerful. If you have something against send me a p.m. and i will provide you link toward the tech what we use.

[@kdlehel]

@easyamp123 the voith turbo is the only one who manufactures advanced hidraulical technology. Dont tell me do my homework. How dare you? Voith is only one who build these technologies using from busess to locomotives. The maxima gravita all uses these technologies, they have buyers from vossloh locomotives and many other locomotive manufacutrers. Even americans manufacturerer sho build the budd RDC. Check voith turbo locomotive program site from more informations.

[@easyamp123]

hey who ever posted this could you please back up your claim this is the strongest diesel. because your wrong!!

[@easyamp123]

@peer2696 You are in germany, somebody made a good job and now I should go home because I don't understand?? ok

[@kdlehel]

@easyamp123 and now you started i will continue. Emd has build locomotives, Why they bulid 2 stroke engines only. why they dont put thet H engine on they models, that engine is 4 stroke. The americans has alot of money fuel and all that use one day an emd engien a gevo locomotive can use for a week. gevos has only 4 stroke engines they are wise and ge build famous locomoties what goes here in europe like the blue tiger and the buldog and the russian DD. So anything pro contra? Wise guy ....

[@kdlehel]

@easyamp123 Well 4 stroke engines proven in europe. I dont understand you how not understand this thing. Note form a device manual: The 4 stroke engines use less fuel than 2 strokes and has 25% more power. See wikipedia ge engines. The truth is to usa has money for fuel but europe uses much part electric traction. Some part diesel electrics and diesel hidraulic. Europe is based on economy and fuel efficient solutions. if you dont uderstand how realy things works send me a Pm. i will show.

[@ModelingSteelinHO]

Yes, I quite interested in Voith Maxima working on US Railroads. There is only small problem of changing peoples minds regarding new technology and the finances to acquire a fleet. Then again we have our own America Made Locomotives from makers like EMD & GE . Now only if they would make a Diesel Hydraulic Locomotive instead of lagging behind in Technology . GE seems to be top in our market.

[@jackfender9274]

Diesel Hydraulic technology is old tech. British rail class 52's were Diesel Hydraulic, so were the older Warship class. And all them suffered from maintenance issues. Diesel Electric loco's are more powerful and do not have the maintenance issues.

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

@@jackfender9274 the British Diesel Hydraulics in Britain were more done in by Politics (the same politics that also Ironically caused their creation), the class 52s and the Warship (class 42s) may not have been as reliable as much more modern engines like the class 59. But compared to the absolute garbage that BR was using at the time the Diesel Hydraulics were godsends.

[@kdlehel]

@moparsbymosher for you this loco looks stupid? This locomotive is not the same what builds the gm emd. This loco is a diesel hidraulic locomotive what is not on usa at all. Has a !4 stroke! turbo abc engine and hase more than 5000Hp. see voith turbo website for more infos. Do not compare usa trains on eu trains. it is much different.

[@harrisrunner5177]

song???

[@kdlehel]

@coalminer666 how i see you are on other american who failed with Dh technology. Probably we somehow managed to use. In my country has 1300 Dh locomotive worked very well. All using Voith Turbo tehnology. Your locomotives are some fuel killer Like emd what has 2 stroke engines. Ge was engineus using 4 stroke engines and even ship in Eu locomotives. What is the big word in europe? ECONOMIC MOBILITY. America how many electric locomotive is? here in my country is 4000. Here Dh tech is succes.

[@easyamp123]

@lde2100 thats an interesting statement. I'm curious what do you mean by fucked up?? Why is it that we take people from all over the world who want to raise their families in us? It cant be because it's fucked up as you so eloquently put it. Please point out some comparison between countries for examination. I love america but it's all I know.

[@moparsbymosher]

American locomotives are so much better looking that anything else just looks stupid.

[@donberg01]

More power full than the American EMDs?

[@couteau86]

Voith Maxima 40 CC has a single engine (!) with a continuous power output from 3600kW (4896PS) ... locs of the EMD ... hm ... the strongest one (who still is in service) is the SD70ACS (who also has a single engine) with 3200kW (4351PS) ... there also was two locs who was stronger, but both are taken out of service. The SD80MAC with 3700kW (5031PS) and the SD90MAC with 4500kW (6118PS)

[@easyamp123]

wrong, with only 408kn of tractive effort, Just one sd90mac could almost pull TWO, (that's right I said two) of these locomotives down the track with them pulling their hardest in the opposite direction. Stronger than American Emd's wrong wrong wrong. you could have a 10000kw locomotive, but if you can't put it down on the rails, who cares. It's a poor design obviously.

[@easyamp123]

@lde2100 what fu&*$ about the us were doing great. I get up every morning go to my great job, come home to my beautiful wife, things are great in the us.

[@honestycounts9352]

At 1:53 when the locomotive starts pulling full power; it is so QUIET !!! Almost silent. Compare that to the loud blast of American locomotives doing the same amount of pulling and you get an idea that this locomotive is something special. The only thing missing that I see American railways need is 'REGENERATIVE BRAKING'. The electric motors on a diesel electric can use resistors to act as brakes and this drastically reduces the amount of brake maintenance required on trains. The diesel-hydraulic doesn't have that feature.

[@easyamp123]

+Honesty Counts There is no regenerative braking on diesel electrics, I think you mean dynamic braking. These are similar but not the same. Regenerative means kinetic energy recycling and then used to recharge batteries or convert into another medium such as hydrogen. Dynamic is what diesel electrics do, convert kinetic energy into heat energy and blow it out the top. lol. wasteful. But many all electrics put there kinetics back into the grid, thumbs up!!

[@ooecherr]

+Honesty Counts Diesel hydraulics have hydrodynamic brakes. Practically that's pretty much the same effect. It turns kinetic energy into heat. Of course it is mechanically more complex, but worked fine in Europe for decades. So: on Diesel-hydraulic trains you also don't have to worry about wear and tear of brakes more than on Diesel-electics.

[@boxcarwillies1603]

Ever heard of dynamic brakes? Same principle.

[@easyamp123]

voith locomotive 3600kw with only 408kn tractive effort (continuous). EMD sd90mac with only 3210kw engine makes 653kn tractive effort (continuous). Obviously something wrong with the voith design. Not very efficient, bad for the environment. They should scrap them all before they waste anymore fossil fuels. We have a locomotive here in the states called an sd45-2 that has 409kn of TE with a 2780kw engine, but that was almost 50 years ago. Oh and I forgot they are still being used. Shit locomotives? I don't think so

[@nielskut2256]

You do know the different between power and torque. Because if you do then you would know that the torque of the EMD goes way earlier down because it reaches earlier the maximum power. Even at low speeds like 20 mph the voith will still have more torque because it doesn't plummet as fast.

[@dirkmunk8352]

American locomotives are build to deliver maximum power (and tractive effort) at very low speeds. When the SD90MAC delivers its maximum power with that tractive effort of 653 kN, it will drive at a speed of 17.7 km/h or 11 mph. The Voith Maxima will drive at a speed of almost 32 km/h or 20 mph. European freight trains are usually driving at high speeds, 65 mph where possible.

[@easyamp123]

@@nielskut2256 horsepower pulls trains at speed not torque. You can gear down a cbr600rr 100 to 1 and get 5200ft lbs of torque @100rpms you think that's going to pull a train at speed. Nope. What were you saying about power and torque? Torque is just HPx5252/RPM

[@easyamp123]

@@dirkmunk8352 true but those numbers are just the published numbers and somewhat arbitrary for both. The sd90mac will still have a higher continuous tractive effort than the voith at 20mph. The Sd90 does have a big brother sd90 that has an even higher tractive effort of 734kn tractive effort continuous and a starting of 823kn. I still stand behind my comment one sd90 could pull two of these voith locomotives in tug of war.

[@nielskut2256]

@@easyamp123 m8 the voith literally has a stronger engine. When both aren't traction but power limited the voith will have more traction

[@easyamp123]

oh by the way, the General Electric's (GE) AC6000 Has 900+kn of tractive effort versus the Voiths 519kn. A single american ac6000 locomotive (with one engine) could almost by itself pull two of these down the track while they were pulling there hardest in the other direction. Everyone shut up and check the facts.