Stryd Subscription Update! - Pricing and New Features

[@strandednomad]

A video of Polar Flow vs the data that Stride gives with the subscription would be interesting. Pro's and Con's of Heart Rate vs Power.

[@TheSlickpt]

Well I was ready to pull the trigger on stryd . Paying for race power predictor is a deal killer for me .

[@alanshrimpton6787]

While I subscribe to KZbin for no ads and free music I was considering a stryd pod but not now especially with conversion rates and fees

[@johanpettersson-evers5367]

Started out looking at Stryds presentation of the new features but after a few minutes I saw your video in the feed, instantly switched and got a much better overall presentation. The workout builder looks really interesting and that alone might tip me towards a membership. Been using Final Surge for that up until now but this seems smoother. Thanks for sharing, your vlogs are always of top quality! 🙏

[@cakej1]

Great review. Used Stryd for 18 months. Love it

[@Ab-qp2yu]

They didn't pay you for this video, i think they should, great presentation.

[@kofuzi]

Thank you for the compliment

[@23mmroadie49]

whether this good value i think depends on how much you value power training and how much you believe in their training plans. I’ve been using it for 6 months and the results have for me have been excellent and the integration with Apple watch is seemless. Subs are a pain but it is unrealistic to expect them to sell a piece of hardware and have no additional revenue from you for a company constantly improving their software and improving the service they offer. For the price of a pair of daily running shoes for annual subs I’ll pay it as the results from power training give me more satisfaction than a spare of shoes will.

[@Mochicologo65]

Great video, as always, Ko! I've been beta-testing the new features and was consulted on the pricing . . . I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised that the subscribtion is lower than I expected . . . but, alas, it is yet another subscription. Love the new features, and - for me - I think that they are worth the $19.99 for the first six month teaser price. I also agree that it's too bad that the race estimate feature is going to disapper behind the pay wall . . . that was one the main reasons that I bought a Stryd last September. Maybe they will reconsider. It's one truly "added value" feature that might then convince people to buy a Stryd, and then convince them that subscribing to the other features might be worth it.

[@Greye_Vernados]

I think that 19.99 should be the standard price per 6 months. Maybe 29.99 for 6 months and 12 months for 49,99.

[@dvdpfstr1971]

I’m sure some people will complain about the subscription plan. Ive had my Stryd since the first of 2021. I like the info that I get from the footpod and have played around with some of the power training plans in the app. I’m a data junkie so it fits with my personality. I’m willing to pay a monthly fee so Stryd developers will be able to continue to improve the app and data collection processes.

[@eriktred]

I’ve had my Stryd going on 2 years, my hunch is they aren’t making enough revenue from recurring sales of the units and the subscription model is much more lucrative.

[@scott_strool]

I'm happy with the details I get from my Vantage V2.

[@Nonixification]

They should focus on making stryd more accurate, or atleast dont claim it that you dont need to calibrate it. Stryd reported power/pace depends on: -shoe type -shoe lace tension -position on the shoe lace -running technique And the list goes on. So charging for power based training plan when the power numbers can be 10-20w off is not ideal. Its like doing hr training with an optical sensor, you can but you shouldnt. Sorry for being negative, I still like to use Stryd because there is no good alternative option.

[@TimGrose]

Yeah I like the Stryd but have experienced a lot of that and the Air Power often seems low or non existent even when it is quite windy.

[@Nonixification]

@@TimGrose The wind power sometime is 0% on the Vaporfly, probably the weird position causing it. Funny thing is that I dont need to calibrate pace on that shoe, "100" calibration works fine. The annoying thing is if there is no wind detected I get around 5-15w lower avg power. And that can be very frustrating as half marathon effort and marathon effort is very close to each other.

[@TimGrose]

@@Nonixification Yeah I typically don't get any more than 1% in the Vaporfly NEXT% and, TBH, rarely more than that full stop even when say doing sub 6 min/mile pace.

[@leejoycechung2162]

Great review of what’s new. Thanks for sharing kofuzi!

[@tonybowen455]

Just a heads up for current stryders, they're doing 6 mo for $20 for the next month. It's in the powercenter settings>add membership at the top. There's also options for 4 mo and 12 mo that are a bit cheaper than 10/mo. I like the 99/year, especially since they keep adding to the platform.

[@sylvainbauge]

So it's not free for current Stryders?

[@xcg1234]

@@sylvainbauge No

[@Greye_Vernados]

I love Stryde, but seeing the current subscription models everywhere i think this one is priced to high.

[@errgo2713]

Same. I'm enjoying my Stryd training plan, and am willing to sub. But the price is steep. I'm up to my eyeballs in subscriptions.

[@juanrivas7462]

Same, I was going to buy one, but SHIT $120 per year to use this crap... I dont think so

[@gustavopaulette3496]

@@juanrivas7462 must suck to be poor

[@alanorcharton8855]

I would pay a little but $10 a month seems quite steep.

[@xcg1234]

@@gustavopaulette3496 ??? You came out of no where and started attacking ppl by calling them 'poor' ?

[@hagakuru]

I think the Stryd business model is whacked. Usually subscription models have products at a very low cost - the money is made from the reoccurring subscription and not the product. Actually, in many cases the product in itself is often used as a "loss leader" and written off for the customer acquisition/subscription. Ironically, the Stryd hardware is WAY OVERPRICED and then they are tacking on a subscription on top of it? No thanks. That pod shouldn't be a dollar over $50 at most. Not a fan of the gouging.

[@gustavopaulette3496]

Rot in hell sir

[@TimGrose]

Guess it is tough as until now selling the pods has been their only obvious revenue stream. However I have had the “newer” Summit one that does Air Power several years now and that is a long time to sell the same product in this sort of space. So I can totally see why they are heading this way.

[@Lupsipupsi]

I unterstand very well the introduction of this subscription model. I own Stryd for more than 3 years now. It is a pretty perfect device from the beginning on with little room for further improvement. They introduced air power some time ago as inovation which was never a reason for me to upgrade to the new device. To put therefore the emphasis on analytics of all the data provided by Stryd behind a pay wall is a good and reasonable approach for this company. I wish other companies would follow this path. E.g., I prefer my Garmin 245 much over the Fenix6 Pro for running, but I wish I simply could add features by some kind of subscription - technically the devices are more or less all the same and I don‘t like this artifical limitation of features based on the price paid for the devices.

[@tonybowen455]

I'm not sure how I feel about it yet as a current stryd user. I do like the new classic workouts. $10/mo feels pricey to me, but maybe that's the going rate with other services. I do think it's too expensive upfront for new users. I'd like to see something more aggressive like $60 + 6 mo sub. Or maybe different two different sub plan tiers.

[@LucasH567]

Great idea! I like it when company’s offer discounts for committing to 3, 6, and/or 12 month plans

[@garysailors]

I’m highly disappointed with the type of feedback available on the Apple Watch from a Stryd workout. The most that happens is a haptic vibration if I’m out of the target power range at each interval of the workout. They would have to make massive improvements to justify me starting to pay for power-based workouts. I’ll stick with WorkOutDoors and the coming Stryd power integration Ian, the developer is currently working on.

[@terryfurlong518]

Stryd have already revised this down to £8.99 and a £19.99 for six months for existing Stryders. So that's a bit better.

[@alanorcharton8855]

I would definitely try it at $20 for 6 months. I was too shocked by the $10/month

[@eriktred]

I have enjoyed the StrydTrainingPeaks integration, but Stryd trying to replace functionality I have got from TP for years. It’s going to be interesting as more and more of the run trackers add features to try to relegate the competitors redundant. Stryd is unique in that it has hardware tied directly to its telemetry specifically targeting runners.

[@martinsmolka2703]

I‘m in the same boat. I tried to primarily use the Stryd but really it’s not close yet to TP and I can’t really not use TP w all the (not only running) data I fed it with over the years.

[@jpod]

Race power calculator is 100% the reason why I use the stryd pod. I don't exclusively train my power. I really hope that feature is not being put behind the paywall since I've had the stryd for a while now

[@mlegrand]

That would be the Garmin Connect IQ compatible watches. That's kind of garmin's third party apps. Think of it like an app store (but not as powerful). Great review as always Ko!

[@mlegrand]

I love the classic running work outs. So great for old school running nerds. There's a few I'd love to see added but they aren't for mortals. I hate the fact that they moved features behind the paywall. At least they keep it for existing users so you don't lose features after buying something.

[@kofuzi]

I think it’s a good move to keep status quo for people. But I also suspect (with no evidence to back it up - just pure speculation) that putting the race calculator in the subscription was a point of great debate internally

[@mlegrand]

@@kofuzi - I bet it was. But at least they did it the right way with previous purchases. Take care!

[@alanorcharton8855]

I did use the free training plan for my first marathon I think it really helped with the workout sessions because I can never remember even simple speed work plans. Also with the track being closed due to COVID it’s nice to use power as a guide on any terrain. I am going to try the $19.99 special for my next training block.

[@hodgepodgejourneys]

I just got my pod and I don't have enough runs yet for it to calculate anything. I think I need at least 5. I start my marathon training Monday and I'm going to use the Styrd marathon plan. We will see how it works for my Sept marathon.

[@paulcain1285]

Thanks Kofuzi not sure if I will subscribe if $10 is equivalent to £10 that’s an odd conversion rate. I’ve been using my Fenix 6pro and Garmin HRM which provides similar stats. My issue has been since all UK races are now 90d old my critical power is low, making the plans too easy. Garmin has been increasing my V02 Max and feels more accurate given my mileage and fitness is greater, just not got that extra % from actual races. Bit disappointing, I think £5 PM no question just do it £120 per year, for data that I know isn’t reliable, feels steep.

[@TimGrose]

Yeah my CP hasn’t moved in 4 months largely as I haven’t “raced” a 5K or 10K even as a time trial but feel my training is progressing. As such it has been predicting a 5K time that I like to think would not be too hard to achieve. Garmin metrics far more receptive as they don’t rely on you having to go all out to see progression.

[@paulcain1285]

@@TimGrose agree I’ve been doing 50 miles per week for the last few months and building in some decent tempo efforts at 10KM and 10Mile which Garmin has seen as positive improvement “peaking” whereas my last half marathon race (Dec) fell off my Stryd curve and saw a 5% drop in CP. having said that I’ve paid £20 for next 6 months subscription and see if I do use it more. Seemed a fair offer

[@traderhines76]

All of my training as of late has been the Stryd workouts. I’m a big fan of Stryd and even did the beta testing for the new features. However, the world is on subscription overload and not sure if this makes sense. It would be cool to provide some workouts for free and charge for the more premium training. In addition, slash the price in half.

[@anthonygilbert8042]

I agree with you: the race power calculator is a major reason to use Stryd. I started a pace-based training plan before I bought Stryd, and had no problem with that, even on the hilly roads around here. However, once the power curve had been calculated from my training runs, I followed Stryd's recommendation for the race, and beat my target with a very consistent run. Without that feature, I would feel I was collecting data in PowerCenter for no reason. I have signed up for the discounted six-month starter subscription, but I am not sure I will continue at full price. Hopefully, the calculator will remain available to me as an existing user. If not, I shall probably try building my own calculator using data points from the power curve, but updating a spreadsheet every time the curve moved would be a real pain compared with the built-in tool.

[@keeferification]

I bit on the 6 month introductory pricing, but yea, there are subscriptions for everything. Strava, Training Peaks, Stryd, MyFitnessPal, etc... It is getting a bit much. The other thing is, the Workout application is only available on Garmin and Apple. In addition, they are very biased with application updates hitting Apple before Android (for the mobile application). I would really like to see the workout application make it to the likes of Polar and Coros as well. Lastly, like why can we not see power data on Strava? Like, c'mon man. Maybe that's more of a Strava thing but... first world problems I guess...

[@tim2oo6]

You can see the power data on Strava actually. If you have a Garmin or AW, just makes sure Stryd does the pushing to Strava and not Apple, Garmin Connect or any third party app. But Strava only shows power data in the mobile version, but that’s a Strava problem, not Stryd‘s.

[@PhilippBorn]

@@tim2oo6 That's a great tip, thank you! Even though it would be nice, if Garmin would simply include the power data, when syncing to Strava.

[@tim2oo6]

@@PhilippBorn yes, indeed. This problem is I think, that Garmin does not support running power from Stryd natively and that Stryd power for Garmin is just a random connect IQ value, so it doesn’t push the value to Strava. I think Coros and Polar are better on that end. But on the other hand, Strava does not provide much detail on running power anyways. You can see the graph in the mobile app and it can calculate a power curve and CP similar to Stryd, but there is no support for zones or looking at the data in the web version.

[@marcsalzman8589]

do you have better strides while using stryde???

[@Moneyalmenial]

As an existing user, I'm not sure that I see the value. I'll definitely go and see what's moving behind the paywall. Massive disclaimer, I don't train by power alone and my watch only displays power, it can't handle structured workouts. As an Android user, the app has been lagging behind the iOS functionality so it's not accurate to say we've had a chance to assess it for months. The timing's been poor also as it's been race season here, so I'm not keen on just doing a bunch of random workouts or changing methodologies. Perhaps if I'd bought in to power training as my primary method, I could justify it but having bought a proprietary footpod (or a running power metre perhaps) Why did I buy it if not to train by power? Good question. I'm a data fetishist I guess? I'm not sure it's a great strategic move by stryd, there's already a serious barrier to entry (footpod price) in what's already a niche offering/small ecosystem (training by power). I understand the need for reoccurring revenue within that finite group of early adopters, but I don't think it increases the size of the overall pie or increases adoption

[@stevebailey1682]

Hi Kofuzi. Do you still use your Stryd pod? I just bought one used and for distance/pace, I find it is no better than my Garmin 55. What do you find? Thanks, Steve

[@youcantseeme63]

Enjoy the videos, great as always. Looking at getting Stryd, which do you prefer Stryd on Apple Watch or Garmin?

[@andreaskanellopoulos9793]

Hi.Great presentation.I love the stryd philoshophy.I would like to know how precise is stryd as far as trail running. And also asking as i'm currently using a suunto 9 baro if the stryd structured workouts would be visual to me during my run on my watch like garmin or apple watch devices. Thanks in advance for the answers!

[@Movtail]

My stryd power meter stopped working and would never upload data so I have given up on it. Running by feel I'm actually running faster now

[@frj73]

Contact Stryd support, they will help you sort it out. You should always run on feel in addition to other measurements, so nothing wrong with that.

[@davidosolo]

Does anybody know if Kofuzi is going to do a review of the new Stryd footpod? Or whether he abandoned the project all together?

[@terryfurlong518]

$10 is £7.25 but the subscription is still £10 or $13.82. I have no idea if there is some kind of tax on digital memberships in the UK but 40% seems a bit steep in any case. Will I subscribe? Yes definitely - the pod is simply that good and way better than HR for managing and targeting effort. Am I worth the price of the pod and subscription? No but I can dream...

[@koohiiocha5780]

Great video like always. I would like to know your thoughts. I currently using apple SE and looking getting more serious in my running. Looking into getting either COROS pace 2 or getting a Stryd pod to go with my Apple Watch. Curious to know your thoughts

[@LucasH567]

I have the coros pace 2 and Stryd. It’s a great combo, and syncs flawlessly. The only downside is when I build a workout in the Stryd app, I have to manually recreate it in the coros app. I execute the workout on the watch, then after my run, In the Stryd app I will “pair” the Stryd workout with the run data that coros sent to the Stryd app. And all the work phases and splits will sync up perfectly. If you already own an Apple Watch SE, and buy the Stryd pod, then I think you should try the Stryd Apple Watch app first. The Stryd Apple Watch app is great (I hear). It will sync everything automatically. Well, if I had already owned an Apple Watch, that’s what I would have done. Hope this helps!

[@LucasH567]

Also I should have stated that I went with the Stryd because I too wanted to take my running serious, and training by power has proved to be fun and is also making me faster. I use Stryd to analyze the data (coros app is lacking with the analysis). I like having all the power data in the Stryd platform, cause If I want to change watches later, I can do that easily sync the new watch with Stryd.

[@koohiiocha5780]

Thank you Lucas for your insights. Too bad Stryd changed their pricing model would have loved to purchase it before the changes :(

[@scottallison3489]

Is it too late to buy a Stryd footpod and get grandfathered in under the old plan? 🤔

[@MylesKoertje]

Wondering this as I got mine on 4/2

[@kevinscott4938]

This worries me alittle, the Stryd pod was £199. Now its £139 + 6 months at £9.99(So same price oner 6 months). I can see the likes of Polar/Garmin et al following this model of selling you the device, but then offering some of their platform as a "subscription" service.

[@kimwarner6050]

I would leave garmin if they did. I have a fenix 6s sapphire and paid a kings ransom for it.

[@XavierMontet]

Hi, I wonder if these Stryd workouts can be used directly with a Coros Watch?

[@blank10123]

Kofuzi have you used Runalyze before? As a runner who doesn't have a stryd, Runalyze (which is free) syncs my runs from garmin connect and calculates power estimates based off of my runs. ( useful for analysing my training progress over time when running the same route etc) I'd be very interested to see how your Stryd power numbers compare to their estimates ( especially as Garmin don't natively calculate it for you. Cheers!

[@RumbleBack-iz3tl]

Too expensive. If any competitor is making a pod. They are done.

[@Moneyalmenial]

I have both. Runalyze reads way high even with the same weight listed. I've run the same route at a roughly similar average pace and average heart rate. With stryd it was about 250watts, without it was around 290watts. From memory.

[@michaeldwilson1471]

Wearing your bright whites today.

[@xcg1234]

We need other companies to make similar product. Yes the first trial $19.99 for 6 month is OK, but that's just a trial. After paid $149 for the device and still needs to pay $10 a month is just absurd.

[@wemorgan]

Coros and Polar have native run power built in to their watches

[@xcg1234]

Price too high, I'll keep the free tier. For experienced runner and long term Stryd users I think they don't need those paid features to train.

[@TalkativeMime1]

Wait so is stuff like training peaks integration still free or is that now behind the pay wall?

[@Stryd]

3rd Party Workout sync remains for all users!

[@eriktred]

Wow @Stryd replies. It’s alive!

[@koohiiocha5780]

With their new subscription model, would you still recommend the Stryd for new users who do not want to be to pay for the subscription?

[@kofuzi]

I think if you normally run in an area where GPS is a challenge, it is worth it. also definitely worth considering if you live in a hilly area. the next deciding factor may be if you are doing a lot of interval workouts and are interested in training by power instead of pace/HR

[@winterlove89]

Which device is easier to use which stryd, apple watch (which series) or a garmin watch. I want to pick up best option that is fully support & can use all the feature from stryd. Thank you

[@kofuzi]

there are no functionality differences between Apple Watch series, as far as I know

[@Ptrmndza]

Are there any other foot pods I can buy? I currently use Garmin but I just use it for distance in case I lose gps signal

[@wemorgan]

Coros have run power native in their watches, if that's what you mean

[@billywheeler4168]

With Garmin and other manufacturers you pay for the hardware and get FREE access to their eco system, such as Garmin Connect. It’s the same for IOS. Why should we pay a subscription to Stryd in order to access new and existing features? Garmin doesn’t, neither does Apple. Both develop new features without requiring a subscription. Subscription models are the future, but this model is based on a low initial purchase price. Stryd should be moving in this direction with the next gen footpod, not now. Stryd are being greedy imho

[@wemorgan]

Apple One, fitness, music, TV ... ...

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