Stuart White recording and mixing vocals for Beyoncé | Sneak Peek

[@jordanmattievisuals]

Love how laid back this dude is.

[@fickbasterd]

what should he else be ?

[@mrdenson3101]

It always amazes me how many amateurs and hobbyists on KZbin trash Waves plugins. Yet most real professionals keep on using Waves on hit records

[@robbeservaes3625]

This song is from 2013, waves was still king back then. edit: the main problem with waves is the way they run their company, milking customers with updates, subscriptions etc. Plugins are good, probably some better alternatives out there nowadays tho

[@mrdenson3101]

@@robbeservaes3625 fair point

[@lewbaldwin]

They are reliable. That’s the difference. You pay for that. Big deal - it’s part of the maintenance of running a studio. Amateurs don’t run studios and mix for Beyoncé. Fabfilter, also expensive, is equally as reliable.

[@janetbailey6727]

The mixing deity known as Serban Ghenea uses the Blue face CLA-76 on his vocal chain, its confirmed.

[@Byron101_]

​​@@robbeservaes3625has nothing to do with the " year of release"! In the last 30-40 years there were so much very good vocal processings and mixes.... You dont need much "modern" stuff to mix and the good old CPU friendly Waves Ren Bundle is gold in these days too! Only performance of the singer, microphone/room, and the skills of the mixer (!) are important....

[@TLove1108]

Michael x Bruce Swedien = Beyonce’ x Stuart White 🤯🤩🤩🤩🤩♥️♥️♥️♥️🙏🏾

[@6stringbeats397]

It's good to see this just to know that you don't need all the new fancy plugins for a professional sound. Sometimes keeping things simple and straight to the point is all you need. The music is all that matters.

[@zachs_music]

while I agree with the sentiment bro just went through a $20k vocal chain lmao

[@6stringbeats397]

@@zachs_music Well in this case nevermind LOL

[@burakakan8341]

sometimes you need fancy plugins if you dont have a avalon pre or hardware compressor

[@lyrixFH]

​@@6stringbeats397Nah your point is still valid. The recording was of high quality (due to the expensive gear) so that he was able to not do so much in the box

[@kobbyampofo]

I don’t think this is entirely fair because and the one thing we’re over looking is the treated room it was recorded in. so many people.l Don’t realize that even good gear in a poorly treated space sounds poor. I’ve gotten great recordings on affordable gear because of good treatment. Don’t get mixed up in the gear. Spend a few hundred bucks on building some real acoustic treatment (not foam!) spend a few hundred on a decent Mic and I promise you’ll be shocked with the results. Also there a very solid software emulations so u can track with some preamp saturation and compression in the box to achieve similar results. I may be no one but I can say from experience this will make makes a word of a difference don’t get caught up on the what their using but what and why they’re doing what they do. The philosophy behind it is critical. I’m currently working on a session and the mic we’re using for tracking is the AT2020, but the vocalists are great, the song is great and the chain uses some free plugins, stock protools and some waves. Sorry for the rant but don’t let the gear keep u from making great music!

[@Dvfacu]

5 minutes of gold. Thank you so much

[@ParadNorthProd]

I like the low-mids on Beyonce.

[@holdena5917]

It's great to see PEGGY here!

[@AH20XX]

Did he mix the track as well? Them drums are Clean and crispy!!

[@MoveTrueRecords_]

Ultra sauce Thank you guyss!!!!

[@ThrillaPark]

Dude is amazing.

[@efsedita]

Them: "Gear doesn't matter!" Also them:

[@jakewallace3976]

Gear matters when you are Beyoncé lmao, not for any of us in the comments (not yet🤞)

[@MelloCello7]

I mean, he is also using stock plugins in protools and demonstrating why it works. Its the why behind the gear and how uses it more than the gear itself I think

[@JordiCristau]

30K for the Chain?

[@efsedita]

@@JordiCristau because it's Beyonce, probably more. I'd guess they not only have top of the line equipment, but also what's known as golden units--every iteration of the same piece is different, and they have the S tier ones.

[@MKD371]

@@MelloCello7, Yeah however that can be a red herring. Everybody always uses the pro tools stock eq, because it does sound amazing and is basically what the Sonnox eq copied, even down to the GUI in parts. So Putting aside the 30k vocal chain with the rest of it, I think most people can filter out a vocal and add a bit of midrange and top end, after they are going through a mic which eq's well through an Avalon. It's kind of a contradiction in terms. I've worked in many studios with Neve desks and U47s etc, it does make a huge difference. Can a good mix - with live instruments and vocals, and or electronic stuff, be achieved purely in the box? Absolutely, especially with the plugins we have these days. However, I think the one thing that is not taught enough, is that gear does matter. It allows the mixer to do a lot less correcting, because the signal is good to start with. Not necessarily expensive gear, per se, but good gear that is simply good quality. Just to labour this point. I did a live broadcast for a radio show with an acoustic band, we had 5 minutes to set up, Cello, Acoustic guitar, Vocals and Drums, they came into one small deadened room, we used one U87 pointing at the whole band, and broadcast live. Apart from the room acoustic being super rich and controlled, allowing the mic to do its work, I'm not sure we could have done it with a 30 dollar toy mic from Matel or Walmart, the U87 saved the day. Everyone sounded spaced, balanced and mixed, with good musicians, a good room and a good mic. The room cost loads to build, obvs, and the mic was damn pricey, going into an SSL board. That's not to say this cannot be emulated in pro tools, it just made the sound good and easier to get, within 5 mins live broadcast setup.

[@simonkukac3010]

wow, 5 minute video gave me more than 2 years watching youtube tutorials

[@mendiapodaca]

This guy could sing "Wand'rin' Star" without a sweat.

[@Hoo_huu]

Damn the bass in his voice almost makes me go dizzy 😂😂😂😂 wearing headphones lol

[@damienlewis7882]

Goat talk

[@mixedbykush]

need more like this brooooooooooooooooo

[@Byron101_]

erm... Phil Harding (Kylie Minogue etc.) has said that the standard Pro Tools EQ doesn't sound good, too much harshness in the high frequencies. I can confirm that.

[@liemisenkeittiossa]

Wasn’t it co-designed by Massenburg? Anyhow, if you can’t do it with this eq it’s not the eq’s fault.

[@scout6505]

Greatest!

[@allenleclerc7878]

Way too short. Could've listened to this guy for hours

[@AaronLaZox]

Stuart White in the JPEGMAFIA shirt hell yeah thats awesome

[@cookiekixx]

Jedi level status

[@thaexception3406]

Makes sense

[@NickLAnderson]

🙏🏼

[@Raibakay69]

Any advice for home studios

[@thisiswhereiwatch]

The advice was pretty clear, if you have a top performer going through a high-end vocal chain recorded in a proper acoustic setting you'll be able to mix using few, and basic plugins. =)

[@Raibakay69]

@@thisiswhereiwatch Ap

[@yashicajpeg]

too real

[@zacari99]

@@thisiswhereiwatchclearly it’s the pro tools stock EQ giving the vocals their signature sound

[@sideast]

bet its a nightmare EQing Her Vocals !

[@cainogang2353]

“You don’t need all the fancy new shit” meanwhile the vocal is running through a 50 thousand dollar + vocal chain lol.

[@drumhack7722]

There is so much processing on that track before he’s barely touched it. it’s been brickwalled to the shithouse.

[@Bashanvibe]

Moral of the story is know your plugins

[@tlc33365]

What song did he do for Beyoncé?

[@Immeallday]

All of them since 2013

[@bboymac84]

💪🏽💪🏽🔥🔥

[@milonthemovekamilkamilion2911]

Interesting Story

[@kresimirsokre6536]

Plugins are the spoon, but you have to have puding that's made right.

[@jahhe2611]

Which neve model is he talking about?

[@thisiswhereiwatch]

1073

[@danymalsound]

@@thisiswhereiwatch "the" Neve, right? haha

[@jahhe2611]

@@danymalsound i guess i shouldve known right? LOL

[@lepoisson]

Oh we're eating good today

[@WheelieMix]

Surprising how he is riding the mic pre gain to compensate for something Be could have done herself in the first place : Handling dynamic and placement with the microphone. I'd have expected her to do it, regarding her great vocal skills and experience (I am not talking about riding the fader of the vocal when tracking, which is happening on the output going into the DAW, which is a different thing). Like other great singers of a similar caliber did (Sinatra and MJ comes to mind for this, MJ being more relevant here).

[@somedood6621]

to be fair he’s talking about micro dynamics within the performance to make any compression more consistent. It’s a professional sound and as an engineer you just do whatever the session needs.

[@MelloCello7]

I dont think thats a fair point. She has powerful dynamic range, and I think the gear should adapt to capturing that magic, not grounding the magic for the gear's sake. I think he's doing it right

[@ian.seynave]

Oh she probably does it, but it's simply not enough, great recording engineers have always backed the singer with mic gain.

[@WheelieMix]

It seems I wasn't clear : I didn't meant that he did wrong. I was just surprised that he had to do it. I've encountered a few singers like this. But I am just surprised that he had to do it on Beyoncé. Especially regarding her choir background (in choirs you have no mics, so you need a great vocal dynamic control, which I am sure she has).

[@WheelieMix]

@@somedood6621 Yes I know what it is, I had to do it myself too. I was just surprised that it was necessary for Beyoncé. As I have also encountered a lot of great singers that do it by theirselves. I just wasn't expecting that here :).

[@Tannmmay]

why is his voice robotic?

[@timothy3777]

hes just a low energy talker lmao

[@jahhe2611]

He is AI and not a real human

[@Nullllus]

Who cares?

[@BigFatCock0]

@@eponawarrior7492 Never diagnose a stranger on the internet again, cheers.

[@eponawarrior7492]

Bruh I didn't diagnose anyone, I just said it could be that, as in, a potential reason.​@@BigFatCock0

[@Louis1996_1]

Good stuff