Wrist rocket: worlds fastest disc launcher

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I've had an idea for a super powerful disc golf gauntlet stuck in my head. I finally made it. It was hard.

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[@southcoastrepofficialsumme8524]

Hi

[@ipaqmaster]

Who wouldn't sponsor these amazing projects

[@minsin56]

gonna postpone my sleep to watch this

[@Romeren]

CARBON FIBER DISCS... waddaya think?

[@jonathanweimane6926]

Hey, can you like do something useful and not use your talents to make useless junk....

[@SimonLizotte8332]

I’m glad it took a machine to beat my record 😄 awesome video!

[@TheErmoore]

We need a collab video!

[@Atul_Thakur97]

nice to see you here🐼🐼🐼

[@GregorShapiro]

Give Shane some pointers for angles and spin...

[@CAsPeR697]

Hi simon

[@DTSills10]

He needs a tilt!! That would fix his flipping problem!

[@MariusHornberger]

8 weeks just for the amazing project? And how long for the video? 28+ min and not a single second of boring content. I'd guess another 100 hours, fantastic!

[@auredio6838]

The video is pure gold!

[@mattiwin85]

Reminds me of your videos Marius :)

[@kjeffersw]

Colin Furze is way better and would have made this frisbee tossing thing way better. This guy ,although pretty good; isn't on the level of Colin Furze. Step your invention game up playboy. ColinFurze is the number one KZbin engineer/scientist.

[@Pon1bcd]

Wait, what!? This is half an hour long video? I was so invested and interested in this video, I didn’t even know it was 30 minutes long.

[@Benisuber1]

@@kjeffersw no need to fanboy this hard, bro.

[@codymoe4986]

17:45 "I couldn't have hit more things if I had tried"... The honesty, backed up by the sound of all those things, bouncing around in the background...bravo, sir.

[@kbrew8991]

I really like how open you are about the problems you run into and the thought process to adjust, adjust, tweak, fix, try again.

[@smartereveryday]

I like how you make a socket to remove the valve from the gas cylinder. A very small part of the video, but I appreciated it.

[@alpham777]

We getting more Coast Guard videos soon?

[@carculturenation2166]

i work with tools daily and love collecting them and seeing and getting new tools. So seeing that was awesome to me as well. its something i wish i could just do is just build and male a custom tool if needed

[@brandonsanders2280]

I thought that was great, didn't have the right tool , "ahh well, suppose I'll just make one"

[@TheBrohomie]

dude has every tool known to man and more

[@lukelafferty6892]

@@TheBrohomie And what he doesn't have on hand, he makes!

[@davicobb2992]

Every time you release a video, I breath a sigh of relief. “Okay, he’s still alive. Now, let’s see what almost killed him!”

[@alumin9361]

ElectroBoom??

[@santiustelive]

@@alumin9361 styropyro

[@alumin9361]

@@santiustelive lmao

[@Mike_H76]

When he decided to put it on his arm, my immediate thought was "I hope he's very close to a hospital".

[@Sion_Revan]

Michael Reeves and the Backyard Scientist, both on watch lists

[@fedirkryvyi]

I love how safety tests are done with the helmet that has a huge whole in it since it was originally designed to stop a ball and not to stop a frisby

[@nickolaskenney1709]

How long till he realizes he just made a way over engineered clay pigeon thrower.. in all reality though amazing video. Love it

[@brianhickory2017]

The learning curve might have been shorter if he'd started with what's known about skeet, sure. "A day in the library is worth a week in the lab." But then we'd have been robbed of some quality video 🤣

[@BenTardif]

Fellow disc golf noob here! Solid execution dude. Thanks for convincing me to not make that disc singshot

[@auredio6838]

Yeah that would be a disaster

[@sarinhighwind]

Yeah, I saw your stuff hiding in the video and commented. :P

[@pablobavosi]

Just watched the trailer of your channel thanks to this comment. What you do is so cool! It may not be much, but you have a new viewer from now on

[@perodactyl490]

not yet...

[@SA-lh7zl]

I would be thrilled to see a SINGshot though... :!

[@ComputerSchool101]

As soon as it launched, I was like "It's not spinning nearly fast enough." Glad you mentioned that! I look forward to a V2!

[@lucianoayb7751]

Yeah me too, I can't wait for him to take a V2 rocket project

[@potato_jesus1018]

@@lucianoayb7751 I was thinking of the exact thing

[@doktarr]

It should also get released on hyzer.

[@hans-reinerjauch5719]

@@lucianoayb7751 with Germanys new 100 billion military Budget, its even more out there.

[@pbgd3]

I think if you copy the idea of a clay pigeon launcher you'd be closer. The clay in a trap starts on the arm near its pivot. As the arm cycles the clay moves outwards along the arm which has a rubber lip. This imparts spin. Additionally as the clay begins its path on the inside of the arm it experiences less initial acceleration which is why the delicate clays don't shatter during the throw. The unit can be tilted for trajectory and flight angle. And the whole arm can be a U shape for containment of the disk.

[@gavensaxon3103]

I’m glad you have ALL the skills to not only make a video, but to brake down the step by step Process of the mechanics behind your Invention! You inspire more than you realize.

[@Koocel]

The throwing angle makes a massive difference in the discs flight. If you make it throw on a hyzer angle i think you'll get a nice distance out of this thing.

[@sailfast2005]

Came here to say this. Gotta release on hyzer 🤣

[@Donderopmetjegebruikersnaam]

So annoying to watch him putting it on anny every time.

[@TheRealNorth21]

@@Donderopmetjegebruikersnaam Hey Matty O makes it work

[@davejoseph5615]

Yeah, and at the beginning of the video he says he has played disc golf "for a few years" so I kept waiting for him to adjust the angle. Also I don't think the mechanism was designed to provide an appropriate amount of spin.

[@hughdbrown]

Came here to say this. Instead of throwing flat with a righthand backhand-like throw, the disc needs to sink down a little bit on the left side. Then it would make more of an S-turn and stay in the air for maximum time.

[@Aphthous]

Suggestion: Your disc needs more spin to make it more stable and less likely to invert. You may want to look into clay pigeon throwers and how they launch them with spin and enough force to go a good distance without breaking the fragile pigeon.

[@thenobalnacho]

Those things also kick like a mule

[@maxpoppe]

those fragile pigeons have totally different properties than plastic discs, the pigeons can't bend and are sturdier, while the disc is very flexible (ductile)

[@laurikorhonencubes]

It would be cool to see if that machine could flip a tilt :DD

[@EddieBlundell]

He mentions this at 23:40 :)

[@Anonymous4045]

@@maxpoppe yes, but the same concepts on how to get them spinning apply, which is what this comment was refereeing to

[@LilWatercup]

20:38 I think that might be the most important plywood shield you've ever set up

[@derekbrandell8520]

I swear to god he would have died if not for that...

[@superhoov]

If you make a version 2.0 you should angle it down a good 30 degrees, if not more. The torque you’re putting out is going to turn any disc over, so counteract that by putting it on hyzer so it flips up to flat, not flip over into a barrel roll. Look up hyzer flip. I would also suggest using a new disc- the fresh plastic makes it more stable and less resistant to turning over. Smashing it into the walls, boards, melons, etc break in the plastic and make it much softer or “weaker.” Actually, just get Simon on the next video. He knows everything there is to know about dg, and it’ll probably triple your views too.

[@bbergan2169]

Watching these videos while I study for finals, studying mechanical engineering has really made me appreciate the hard work engineers put into making systems safe.

[@teopalafox]

whoa, same bro.

[@NickRuedig]

I think you might be watching the wrong engineer for safety tips! 😂

[@TimeBucks]

Thank you for this fun video

[@arielmora7554]

Awesome video

[@jaysinghpatel6944]

Thanks

[@morellatovar4151]

Bien

[@adamgarlow5347]

I feel like you'll eventually end up building fallout style power armor to permanently get around problems like "this will break my arm" or "I won't have a head if this goes wrong"

[@Wertsir]

And then the power armor goes wrong.

[@1dk_man]

@@Wertsir exploding fusion cores

[@KreeTheBasilisk]

You mean armour that will make him into some sort of… iron man? 🤔

[@AkashWShah]

I love how the solution to the disc holder problem was basically just to make a hand analog that holds it in almost the same way a human would.

[@jaysondavis9693]

Yesss

[@MicBassLights]

Speaking on your final comment in the video on learning and taking the initiative, I just started finishing my high school education at 25 after a long illness, I am very excited to see where life takes me!

[@1hunnybadger]

That's a really complicated and impressive clay pigeon launcher you've got there.

[@granthuffmanreal]

Wait couldn't just have used a skeet launcher

[@codec862]

@@granthuffmanreal Ceramics act completely differently than plastic. Most of the launch system would be incompatible. Plus, this is a DIY channel, a pre-made solution would be boring

[@Olebull93]

That was the first thing I thought cant he just buy a clay pigeon launcher at Walmart lol

[@theRhinsRanger]

PULL!

[@reebott8691]

*trench gun noises*

[@jerm448]

Would love to see a part 2! Release angle is essential in controlling how much a disc wants to flip during flight. You are releasing a disc on an anhyzer and it just continues to flip all the way over. You can compensate for this by changing the angle to start on a hyzer, and it will flip up to a more stable flight. Called a “hyzer flip.” Spin also helps, but you covered how this could improve it :)

[@meb212]

I was going to say this exactly. Tbh the fact that they're going the distance that they are on such a steep anhyzer angle is kinda wild. Edit; I'd be interested to see him throw the DiscMania Tilt, the Discraft Captain's Raptor, or the Innova Max with this on anyhyzer, hyzer, and flat releases.

[@sqmsh]

I'm not sure he can fix this with his current design. The beauty of a human arm is 3 joints before the hand. If you throw a disc with all fixed joints except for the shoulder, you won't be able to stabilise it. I imagine he's thing about that already when he's talking about more spin (adding a wrist), but he still needs an elbow to adjust the release angle.

[@name7892]

@@sqmsh No he can just set it up on a different angle

[@meb212]

@@sqmsh your elbow isn't exactly what determines release angle though. I'm sure he can set the machine to release on a different angle, without too much of an issue.

[@sqmsh]

@@name7892 that doesn't work. Gyroscope and all that jazz. Think about your arm without a wrist or an elbow trying to achieve the same thing. You'll be better off, certainly. But you want a horizontal release plane, with a IO release angle to maximise your distance. You can't do that with only one joint.

[@reesethomas7220]

I love you dude! I started losing passion for engineering in college, but you gave me the passion back. You inspire people bro! Never stop entertaining us 🤙

[@ScatPack-ol6dq]

I admire your persistence, great stuff keep up the hard work!

[@sethentriken6749]

Super cool project! I wonder what would have happened if you set the machine to throw it on a hyzer angle instead of flat. When pros are throwing at fast speeds they will angle the disc sometimes up to 40 degrees to counteract the flipping and keep it flying flat for longer during the flight. Can't wait to see what you do with the next project!

[@jshcrlss]

This right here! you got to angle the disk so that the far end of the disk is below the grip at the release point!

[@bwright7503]

I was wondering if he was going to figure out the floating disc curve. I used to play a lot of disc golf and our term for it was "S Curve". It's the only way to get long distances. I'm certain he would have gone much farther with the right disc throwing tilt/angle.. Humans also flick the disk at the last stage of a throw which I think might give more stabilization..

[@ngregoirenc]

@@bwright7503 that’s the gyroscopic stabilization he mentioned for future improvements. More spin would definitely help

[@jtse0316]

this is definitely important.. really wish he tried it with this angle

[@jamescollier3]

@@ngregoirenc yes. more spin fewer g's

[@WaterjetChannel]

“That’s the basic design” *shows a very complex design

[@Retard_Detector]

Yeah, he should have just soaked some food in epoxy & called it content...

[@AzuraTheRock]

@@Retard_Detector yikes

[@madladdan]

@@Retard_Detector Criisis that's a low blow 😭😆 Love you guys tho Dan and Mitchel keep them epoxy burgers coming

[@Sentient_Soup]

“Humans are crazy, and we’re not going to be making a hand”…. Proceeds to make a hand

[@tobiaseriksson1335]

I just love the way you include all the mistakes in your videos and your wifes opinions are so great! I love your videos and have watched them all over and over again

[@iamgreyhorse]

I took college algebra, I just could not get until I had a use for it ! I needed a practical application, that I could visualize, in my mind ! That's when I realized, educators in this field, were teaching us wrong, to get someone to understand, they would make their own jobs easier if they, would give an example of it's uses ! Being able to visualize this was a game changer for me ! Cool video, I think your mech arm needs to be hand held to be a total success ! I know a lot of your time was spent figuring out how to do this ! Just subscribed, looking forward to interesting content !

[@alienlobsteroo4882]

What I learned at work: Our cranes have 4x the safety. So if it is rated for 4 tonnes it actually can lift 16 tonnes but due to safety regulations it will switch itself off if there's more than 4 tonnes on there. AND THIS GUY RUNS THE AIR PISTON AT 6X OUTSIDE ITS SAFETY REGULATION. Subscribe to this madman!

[@spruce1509]

Yes, but he also has the know how to assess the material to make sure it's good

[@ssholum]

@@spruce1509 Safety factor isn't about knowledge, it's about preventing failure in unexpected conditions. In the example of the crane OP mentions, maybe it can lift 16 tonnes under perfect conditions, but say the rigging is off or it's windy, and that weight starts to move.... Well, now you have a collapsed crane. As for assessing materials... you can't account for everything. The reason he's okay with overloading the piston is that he isn't putting anyone's life the way of the machine. That's why he only used it manually at really low power, and goes behind cover when he ramps it up.

[@spruce1509]

@@ssholum oh absolutely! What I meant was that at least he's done some form of assessment and hasn't just decided it'll do at random

[@NightmareTales]

A rotational railgun mechanism for this might also be worth a try. May launch at the speed of sound, may tear itself to pieces. Either way, it would be fun to watch.

[@syth-1]

@@DonLicuala it's not about inventing something now - it's about applying what's learnt and making it a reality Would love to see you try and solve the issues that were faced,

[@professionalsleeper6281]

"My lord, is that... legal?"

[@Drekel]

@@DonLicuala it's similar butch more complicated

[@babypandajr172]

@@syth-1 the, “I would love to see you try” argument isn’t an argument these days man. You can criticize a space launch without being able to build rockets yourself. Don’t get so defensive

[@GFG2gifted]

Hmm, my thinking, a railgun mechanism coupled with what the criss super v .45 weapon technology with it's recoil technology would be an ideal start.

[@explorerofmind]

It’s amazing that you made a backboard that will move anywhere to catch a basketball in a 3D space, and you seemed to have less struggle figuring that out than creating a machine that throws a frisbee. I envy your skills, resources, time, and knowledge to do both.

[@nikkiofthevalley]

The problem you need to solve are different. For the 3D moving hoop, the problems are mostly in software, the hardware is easy enough. For this, all the problems are in hardware. Hardware is usually more difficult to deal with than software. (Re: Integration Hell)

[@HMoonHunter]

"I'm really tempted to create a solid metal disk, but it's very deadly" DAWG AS IF THIS WHOLE PROJECT ISNT DEADLY ENOUGH--

[@Nightstick24]

Then you just paint it like Captain America’s shield and you’re a superhero! Or villain…

[@rollin340]

When it hit that table he was hiding behind, I was so thankful that he took at least some precautions there. But I was terrified every time he wore it; it looks terrifying.

[@littlechickeyhudak]

bro built the Arm Shredder 3000 but is scared of a metal disk

[@jeremyeanes1626]

I’ve been playing disc golf for about 7 years now. The motion of the thrower looks good in my opinion but the angle at which your final set up is position is the problem with your distance. Let me explain. Throwing a disc right handed back hand (rhbh) naturally makes the disc want to turn left in its flight because physics. When throwing rhbh super hard it wants to turn over, as you explained, in a clockwise rotation when looking at the flight path of the disc. To compensate for this players will throw the disc from a hyzer release. You can look up hyzer vs anhyzer to have a visual aid but essentially a hyzer is the angle that the disc naturally wants to end at in its flight path and anhyzer is the opposite. Long story short, throwing the disc on a hyzer will help compensate for the clockwise rotation of the disc when it wants to turn over. Therefore you want to have the machine start the disc path at the same angle as this -> / so when it turns over it flips up to flat -> - instead of starting from flat and turning over to -> \. Does that make sense. I would love to chat with you more about this if you’d like because I think your machine has the potential to break the record without making your own disc or doing major modifications. Just need a little disc golf technique in the swing! Other things that will help to counter turning over is a heavy disc (175g at least and buying a high stability disc. Aka, you want the 3rd number on the disc flight path numbers to be high, at least a 3. I hope all of this helps, I’d love to see a follow up video. Good luck!

[@41-Haiku]

+

[@0m3gA_o3]

damn that's long

[@kylebrainpresents]

Knowledge dropped

[@Tiglath-Pileser3]

Yep, was going to post something similar.

[@poakssa]

The cancelling forces mechanism was sort of like attaching another gun with the barrel facing the shooter to cancel out the recoil.

[@Toxxyc]

Actually, that's what a compensator or muzzle brake does. It sends the energy escaping the muzzle, after the bullet left the muzzle in a different direction, mitigating the recoil. A muzzle brake literally takes all the energy contained in the barrel after the bullet has left the muzzle, and sends it back toward the shooter, albeit at a slight angle. So, while the bullet pushes the gun toward the shooter, the escaping energy pulls the gun forward, canceling the recoil quite a bit. It also makes one hell of a noise, and it's the reason for those massive dust clouds seen when someone shoots from the ground with a muzzle brake installed on a big rifle.

[@davejoseph5615]

The problem is that he put so much distance between the swing arm and the counteracting swinging weight. They needed to be very close to each other. To make it much safer the weight might have been a disc.

[@christopherkarr1872]

I love that you effectively made a pneumatic transistor-transistor amplifier setup (little valve drives big valve)!~

[@sadidrahimi]

I swear to god you have the best videos on KZbin how can one be comical as all hell yet so smart and genius

[@shiftonephoto]

This actually does have commercial viability as well if you were interested. Companies literally just go throw the discs they make and make up all those numbers on the disc. It's pretty hard for a human to consistently throw the same speed and same angle over and over again. Disc manufacturers would definitely be interested in something that can throw consistently like this.

[@marcz2903]

Wouldn't a clay pigeon launcher work just as well?

[@brag0001]

@@marcz2903 isn't it the other way around? If refined, it could make for an amazing clay pigeon launcher?

[@marcz2903]

@@brag0001 clay pigeon launchers already exist and they work. There's no need to reinvent them.

[@brag0001]

@@marcz2903 I know, I'm a regular viewer of a channel that's even presenting historical ones. This one would allow for a completely different kind of design of the disc, different angles and distances. Most stuff already exists, but there is always room for improvement ...

[@marcz2903]

@@brag0001 oh I see what you mean. Yeah there may be a market for that.

[@Brick_Science]

This was really fascinating to see all the variations and problems and engineer has to overcome! Great work!!

[@vulcanvlogs7523]

Bro love the vids

[@DCDLaserCNC]

I like that you show the failures and how you overcome them and move on.

[@jameswisegarver3120]

Just finding your channel. I really like how you do stuff. This project might be something that you could market so flight numbers can be standardized. It could be worth the effort

[@awyoung706]

Hey Shane, passionate disc golf flight enthusiast here! There are a few reasons why your disc is behaving that way: 1. You're correct in that more spin = more better. Spin not only makes the disk fly A LOT further because of increased glide, it also mitigates any off-axis torque introduced by the machine, which will cause a disc to want to turn to the right. 2. As others have said, if your disc has this lack of spin and increased off-axis torque, you will want to give it the max opportunity to combat this tendancy to turn right by mirroring your release angle. But if it's doing barrel rolls to the right, this won't be enough, which is why, 4. You need the appropriate disc that has an absurd tendency to the left to counteract this. This disc would have a high speed rating (13-15) and maximum overstability (turn rating of 0 or greater). Examples are Innova Max / Ape, Discraft Nuke OS, or Latitude 64 Stilleto) If you want, hit me up and I can send you a few of these. Great vid man!

[@Stanzig666]

Agreed. The speed of disc I believe he needs is around a 17. A super Overstable disc thrown on a good hyzer with this machine might "flip to flat."

[@scottdalton1205]

Also should be noted that it flings it in a circle instead of pulling the disc in a straight line. Discs are supposed to turn over, not flip all the way around. A disc golf swing is a straight line, this machine is throwing thumbers

[@Aphletic]

@@scottdalton1205 we don’t really throw in a straight line. I understand that is what is taught as good practice to give people to minimize rounding, but If you can find slo motion footage of someone throwing from over their head you can see it is actually an arc path as the elbow extends.

[@MaxLBogue]

@@scottdalton1205 I think the issue with rounding for humans is that it isn't the most efficient way for our body to accelerate the disc, but our bodies are free-standing, impact-absorbent, and versatile and reactive enough to adjust between throws or even in the middle of one. I think trying to design a mechanical arm that accelerates the disc in a straight line would introduce an astronomical amount of design challenge, and the fact that he's turning and burning Nukes at 550' with the current design means he's most likely onto something anyways. He needs to use a more stable disc, which has a limit within the PDGA regulations; you can only make something that flies with a certain amount of overstability while keeping within the max weight and rim parameters. A disc that pushes those limits just isn't practical for humans to use, but I think the machine he has designed is absolutely capable of getting maximum distance with a parametrically maxed-out regulation golf disc.

[@awyoung706]

@@Aphletic Agreed we throw in an arc. But I'm having a hard time coming up with an idea to put more RPMs on it. Maybe the key is finding a way to decelerate the inside of the disc as it's coming out. It might be as easy as putting a lot of high-friction material in the holder to separate angular velocity from linear velocity. 🤔

[@digdawg2833]

“I don’t have the right tool…” *cue the montage where you simply just make the right tool.* So badass 😂

[@keithlightminder3005]

Hunting frisbee! Great way to teach us about physics, engineering and design! Thanks for all your time and explanation!

[@rachkershaw9707]

New subscriber here! So glad I found your channel, i watched the forgery robot which was fantastic, now I get to binge watch all your videos! Keep up the amazing content 😊

[@zackp6794]

You need to have it fire on an extreme hyzer angle. You’re shooting it on an anhyzer angle, which is no good when it’s firing them so fast. Also, try a “Tilt” disc. It’s the most overstable (wants to flip right the least) disc out there.

[@JoelKreider]

YES!! If the disc is rolling… it needs to be launched in a position to counteract that roll. So about 80-90° CCW. I hoped there might be a try at Side Arm… which for me, requires significantly less energy:distance ratio. However, speed was the original goal, so not necessarily the best form for speed.

[@11olive11]

I was literally going to post this same thing with the Tilt as a disc selection. Good suggestion!

[@aguynamednick]

The mother of all hyzer flips

[@Japperis]

@@11olive11 yes throw the TILT

[@benschikker833]

This was both of my suggestions

[@tayzonday]

I’m still waiting for you to program an oncology (tumor zapping) microwave to perfectly reheat a slice of apple pie evenly - instead of making it very hot at the tip and cold at the crust.

[@michaelhowell8280]

Super secret trick-- instead of putting the apple pie slice in the middle, put the slice on the edge of the microwave. Then it should (hopefully) cook evenly. If not, then only God can help us all.

[@kodinamsinh1267]

Not to be that guy, but I did not expect you here

[@sharxbyte]

This sounds a lot more like something up Michael Reeves Alley.

[@Artcore103]

I think he should devise a system that is able to produce a chocolate flavored rain, now that would be something!

[@brianbethea3069]

Pro-tip: use your microwave's defrost function and microwave it for 2-3x as long as you usually would. Or, if it has a power level setting, set it to 40% and multiply the time you'd put it in at 100% by 2.5. The power level setting typically will do whatever % you choose on 100% and then the remaining % at 0%. So for 50%, it'd do 15 seconds on, 15 seconds off, 15 seconds on, etc. That lets the heat dissipate throughout the food during the 15 seconds off multiple times over the course of a single warming, which makes it more evenly warm after it's finished.

[@majortom4543]

15:23 i like how you tethered the metal part through the carbon fiber just like F1 does with their tires so if the suspension breaks they dont fly off and bounce into the public or the marshalls, or other driving cars.

[@THarSul]

youve basically made a precision--engineered pneumatically-actuated frisbee atlatl; fascinating that some of the oldest forms of force multiplication can still be applied to the modern era, in their own way.

[@EngineeringMindset]

21:52 my god that looks dangerous, Shane. The best way to avoid personal injury is to let someone else do it . We need more videos, don't get injured!

[@auredio6838]

You are right we want more videos so dont get injured.

[@jeremyholman]

Or at least a gorget.

[@AiSard]

Sadly the Wife said no though so..

[@E-Engineering_Life]

safety first

[@faustinpippin9208]

And his neck isnt even protected, if he got hit in his throat he could die

[@MaxLBogue]

This is the crossover I have literally obsessed over for years. You need something like a Flick, Tilt, or Latitude 64 Stiletto to stand up to speeds like those. Some people have even modified discs by reshaping with heat to make even more stable molds than any that are currently sold. Flattening the flight plate and outer rim into a single plane can cause some incredibly stable discs. Perhaps keeping the flipping edge angled down in a hyzer release would help get a better flight path as well. If you need any tips on disc design I can give some insight to how each design element can affect flight, but I find it's mostly intuitive if you're overly familiar with free bodies and basic classical mechanics.

[@narheruhenadar9838]

Having it be thrown on hyper would probably have the greatest impact on the machine. Also it would be very interesting to see if the Tilt could be useful in this situation.

[@erickogen5010]

Needs to try the hyser flip

[@joshuafedorchuk1257]

God bless you mister. What a delight your videos are.

[@bensonboys6609]

It’s crazy, the engineering you do is on another level! You actually solve really difficult (although whimsical) problems! Keep up the good work!

[@DyslexicMitochondria]

He's a genius lol

[@tomhappening]

@@DyslexicMitochondria ur username made me click on ur profile. Ur channeI is a hidden gem bro

[@siliconnitride7029]

Does he have a masters degree?

[@SoulDelSol]

@@siliconnitride7029 at least I'm sure, he worked professionally as engineer before doing this channel and going out on his own

[@kellymoses8566]

He should be working for Lockheed Martin

[@wadeperkins714]

From what I could tell, the discs launched in the field were being released on an anhyzer angle, like clock arms pointing at 10 and 4. This would cause highly stable distance drivers to flip over almost immediately. Releasing from the opposite angle (hyzer) should allow the disc to flip up, fly flat, and then return to it’s original angle when falling. This would be like clock arms pointing at 2 and 8. This is the case for the machine, which launches the discs like a right-handed backhand, but would be different for other throws. Hope this helps!

[@wadball]

Exactly what I was thinking (but in less cool words). Would love to see it thrown at a release angle around 7 or 8 o'clock! Bet it would go for miles

[@brethaley]

Spot on analysis. Google hyzer flip.

[@bullyboy131]

I knew someone already beat me to it. Thanks.

[@yoyomajerk]

I was going to mention the anhyzer release angle too, would definitely prefer to see it released on a low hyzer angle

[@danski9904]

Love throwing hyzer flips.

[@kiwiinbrazil]

my joy is seeing your joy....great fun watching your content

[@nighthawk9264]

It’s amusing to see you having the problem with the valve. Some years back, I built a parachute mortar for the drogue chute of a sounding rocket. We used 12g CO2 cartridges as you find them in airsoft pistols. We basically punctured them when mounting them and a solenoid would let the CO2 flow to the mortar. During ground testing we used a pretty chunky valve that drew a lot of current and it worked like a charm. Our chief engineer then wanted to me to use a different valve, using less power (power budget and all). New valve came, we tested it and suddenly the parachute didn’t reach the correct ejection speed. Took me a while to figure out: the previously used valve had an orrifice of 1.5 mm diameter, the new one only measured 1 mm. By the looks of it, it actually was the same valve that you got there.

[@ivannoneyah7888]

17:43 the sound of sheer chaos and you getting up all calm like “huh that’s weird” got me

[@outofdarts]

“It will either break your arm, or kill you.”

[@ZeldaplusSmallville]

I mean, it could kill you as it breaks your arm

[@tyguy8592]

It will break your arm, and kill you! 😎

[@braylon3233]

thanks a lot Isaac newton!

[@prestonrutherford3997]

*Immediately after* “But I won’t go over 15%”

[@WormholeJim]

And/or wreck your workshop and/or your entire house. A lot of crashing noises from all around whenever it flings.

[@simonpauwels31]

I absolutely love your videos. You and mark rober have actually thought me a lot

[@guncoservicesllc6921]

Launch your frisbee from a Clay Pigeon thrower and call it a day.

[@reidh]

Wow, this seems so challenging! On your final attempt, the disc came out of the slinger on “anhyzer” angle (disc golf term) which may be making the discs flip over faster. I’m curious what would happen if you released them on “hyzer” (angled down opposite the direction they flip over to)? That may help give you more distance! The pros certainly take advantage of that- wind can also cause discs to flip faster. So a tail wind may help again make the disc flip less and go further? Combine those two thoughts and MAYBE everything will break again somehow

[@scottdotjazzman]

This. I was practically screaming at the video "Change the angle to hyzer!!"

[@cadenschindlerdiscgolf5417]

@@scottdotjazzman I was definitely doing the same thing. On hyzer it has a really good chance of crushing the distance record

[@PatZaglich]

Seriously. He definitely should have consulted someone who knows even a little bit about disc golf.

[@dolphi5]

Distance records are all thrown on anhyzer though so maybe that's what he was going for. He just needs to thrown a Tilt with that angle

[@TobiasRX]

Yes, releasing it on a hyzer angle is key.

[@TheBotchJob]

You don't know how much something like this is needed in disc golf, with technologies like this we can actually test discs and put them on a more uniform standard regarding flight numbers etc.

[@-darrell]

Need to get over to NASAs wind tunnel :)

[@truckinNloving]

Why not redesign the machine used to test golf clubs? Something of that stature is about the only thing that can mimic human behavior.

[@Hagge95]

It's really cool. Like he mentioned near the end, when discussing world records., I imagine he'd have to change it up to get a similar amount of rotation and gyroscopic stability, though, which probably means another, more human-like release mechanism. The amount that it's turning over in the video is interesting. Would have been interesting to see it throw something like Tilt. But maybe a 9-speed would've died anyways. Not an expert.

[@mycosys]

Seems to me the simplest thing may be to redesign the pitching machine, make it horizontal. the speed difference between the 2 wheels would govern the spin. would be consistent and repeatable.

[@cupbowlspoonforkknif]

As a disc golf player there's a few things you're missing. 1. Speed rating on the disc. You need 14 which is the max. The picture you showed was speed 9. Maybe you did but just didn't show it. 2. Discs tend to flip over to the left with a negative TURN rating and to the right with a positive rating. Once you know that the disc wants to turn, you then compensate by tilting it slightly the opposite way. I can see it's launching slighty slanted which is causing them to turn prematurely. Look up the term hyser flip to see what I'm talking about. You'll go so much further with just 2 minor adjustments. Oh and with 8.7 million views I'm sure you could have got some sort of compensation from a disc company sponsor. Anyway, love the effort and humor!

[@SpydersByte]

17:41 the sound of that thing hitting every object in your garage is hilarious :D

[@stephendawg1]

Your comment about “spin” at 23:30 is something I had been wondering about from the very beginning. None of your early designs seem to provide that type of energy as the disc launches. You are basically ( but not entirely) throwing a knuckle ball. 🙂 Your ideas and execution are fascinating and I applaud your efforts. Thanks for sharing. Oh, I entirely love your wife’s deadpan sense of humor. She’s hilarious! You two are a great team!

[@NarutoMagicCyclops]

I wonder if simply using a roller system on the latch release would allow the disc to spin out rather than launching out. Would be a simple first test to see if it would work.

[@kylesmith4572]

"I think it would help if I held it." "Do you want to hold it?" "No."

[@ViralKorruption]

wife is why i watch

[@antongolovko1149]

He back baby, editing until past night to give us a video

[@erikhaug2942]

Look up "hyzer flip". Your machine is starting it on an anhyzer angle. Tilt the machine forward so that at the release point the disc is angled in a strong hyzer angle. In flight you will see it start at hyzer angle and flip to flat and then turn to the right, then finally go back to hyzer at the end. I bet you get killer distance if you try that.

[@micahnightwolf]

The absolute chaos that happened at 17:40 sounds like a pinball player racking up a high score, and I'm pretty sure that that's exactly what the frisbee was doing. I just wish I could've seen how many objects you managed to hit with it.

[@pyglik2296]

0:41 "This ended up being my most labor-intensive project, ever." Watching your videos, it looks like you could say this about all of your projects :) 7:47 It looks exactly like transistors in Darlington configuration. I love when electronics and pneumatics are so similar! You don't realize how much trial and error went into designing and engineering the technology we have, until you try to build something yourself. What seems obvious afterwards, like the wind shield for the disc, can be easily overlooked because of all the other potential problems. I really like that you don't just show the finished product, but instead as you said it "the journey is the destination".

[@FitzyyLives]

The next project will always be the most difficult project if you are constantly trying to improve your skills

[@michman2]

Wow. You are having too much fun. I'm glad that you eventually got to the gyroscopic effect.

[@thebronzelocker]

Probably won't see this comment, but awesome video! I spend a lot of time around discs and have thought a lot about creating a machine that can "throw" discs with consistency. My thoughts regarding an arm powered device for faster and farther throws would be to attach a mechanical arm to the arm and forearm, hinged, of course, where the elbow is, and geared to have a faster output than the input. The mechanical arm would extend completely across the body, while your arm only goes back about halfway. When throwing, the gearing will make the mechanical arm move faster and "catch up" to your arm at full extension in the throw.

[@DEADB33F]

This video was 30 mins of watching someone who has never seen a clay pigeon launcher try to re-invent the clay pigeon launcher but in the most complicated overly engineered way possible. Glad you got it working.

[@mydogbrian4814]

- And I loved every minute of it. Cause, Hell or High Water, he had persevered and made it work!

[@jerryharper7539]

This was a great idea! I would love to see you beat the distance record with it. I am a disc golfer and here are some things I noticed. So, you pointed out that you are using over stable disc this is good to reduce roll over like you are getting. The launcher is releasing the disc at an anhyzer angle which in turn will have the disk roll over. The max speed of current disc's is 14-15 I suggest using one of those that is over stable last two number 0,4 and releasing at more of a hyzer angle. The power behind the arm will force the disc flat and you will get more distance. Hope this helps would really love to see this succeed!

[@joshgreenwald1]

Exactly what I came here to say! So cool

[@IronGoober]

I agree with this comment. If you tilted the disc in the opposite direction (left side down, right side up, relative to the travel direction) then you would get a much better flight and would have easily beat the women's record, and "Wife" could have a brand new trophy on the wall. I also agree with your assessment for putting more spin on the disc would help. I have an idea for a mechanism to do this ( I have been thinking about building a machine to throw discs too!) that mimics the human wrist. Essentially, it is loosely attached on the arm and pivots freely, as the disc is accelerated, it will pull outward by centrifugal force, but when the disc gets enough velocity and inertia, it will start to pull the pivot point forward (I think) and this will enable a mechanical trigger that pulls a pin holding onto the rim of the disc downward, releasing the disc (very similar to v2 of your mechanism). It may be a total failure, but will be fun to try!

[@Ninjalectual]

Holy hell I would *LOVE* to see this machine launching a hyzer flip for distance....

[@qftsjustin]

Man I just found your channel and I’m HOOOOOOOKED you follow the same format as one of my favourite blacksmiths Alec Steele and boy this fish stuck on the line 😅

[@elijahlewis5915]

Love all the engineering. I've used a clay bird thrower for shooting practice and that's where I would have started. The long throwing arm gives the disc a surface to roll and get better rotation before launch. Probably would be a heavy design.

[@OutdoorsJustin]

I immediately thought of a hand thrower for clay pigeons. Scaling up and improving that design would have been a quicker solution.

[@Makujah_]

I like how this thing went through a quasi-natural evolution process - it shed unnecessary parts, but there are some vestigial reminders that point to those parts existing in previous generations

[@yoshi6421]

Excellent analogy!

[@meyjor]

Watching things like this confirm evolution as a theory but also make me question it and I am by no means religious. Titanium, carbon fiber, intelligent designer, many generations of precise testing vs muscles and bones made mostly of water, proteins, and calcium after many generations of random genetic mutations? Yet in my opinion, the human arm still wins by a landslide. It is clearly more elegant in appearance and far more precise, even if it is not able get the speed achieved by the machine. Not to mention the arm can do several hundred different tasks while most machines designed to beat humans in a task can only do the specific task it is designed for. I’m not shitting on evolution, but it makes me wonder if there was in fact an architect of the human body and the architect was someone or something which was far more advanced than we are now. Or if it is evolution, that someone or something has stacked the odds in our favor. Sorry for rambling, but your analogy to evolution really made me think about how lucky we got as a species to exist while earth is still so young. Great point though.

[@Makujah_]

@@meyjor I wouldn't go as far as to say this confirms evolution theory XD. I said "quasi" for a reason, it's not actual evolution process, it just coincidentally looks similar :)

[@dylanb2990]

@@meyjor if we had an intelligent designer they would have taken the appendix out ahead of time I’d think.

[@meyjor]

@Dylan B I don't disagree. I guess since humans are only 10,000 or so years old, we don't know if in a million years the random genetic mutation of people born without an appendix will be able wipe out those with an appendix, or the random genetic mutation giving the appendix the purpose of special enzyme secretion that allows us to become telepathic will happen. Stay tuned to find out.

[@aaronbudd5509]

Not sure if you knew this, but most of the throws you are simulating with the machine are being thrown on what disc golfers call an anhyzer angle, where at release, the angle created from the horizontal plan to release point then to edge of disc is positive. Hyzer is where at release the outside edge is negative. at high speeds the discs will flip up, from hyzer angles to anhyzer. if you were to come back to this project, it could be something to test around with.

[@Blade_Azero]

16:59 "give an engineer a toy and a box of tools and he'll make you a deadly weapon" - Azero

[@GodLovesUsSoMuch]

Stuff Made Here: How can I protect my head when launching this disk? Helmet with a disk sized gap near eyes: Pick me! Pick me! In all honesty though, it is inspiring to see the thought process and hard work you put into your projects. God bless!

[@tokindre]

You truly are the try and try again! Never give up till it's right!

[@sriramsridhara1763]

Bro you overlooked the disc shaped eye cutout in your helmet! But the build was seriously awesome.

[@mitchboynunn]

I've been playing Disc golf since I was in high school and I love how you demonstrated how its not about power that gets the distance. My teachers always told me that its about your form and how much spin you give the disc. They always said you can put as much power as you want but if you don't follow through with your whole body it won't go as far.

[@timothymccormick5208]

Funnily enough, the same theory can apply to live. "No matter how much brain 'power' you put into something, if you don't follow through with your body, you won't go far."----BUT, enough with philosophy... I was out with a buddy just a couple days ago, playing at a local course. Was about 150' from the basket and decided to throw a Rok mid-range disk. Wasn't expecting to get far with it, but, apparently the wind caught it just right (because it was a solid and clean through, with plenty of "oomph" behind it) that, not only did it catch a little too much height from the initial release, but it also rode the wind with a HECK of a hook and soared nearly 200+ feet away from both, myself, and the direction of the basket. A distance I didn't expect to get from a mid-range disk. (one that I'm lucky to get from a "distance driver" with a back-hand, but I can clear with my Cruth with a side-arm... go figure.)

[@marsgizmo]

This project is outstanding! Well done! 👏😌 Love your saying “the journey is the destination”.

[@mysticondeflamme]

Hi! Nice to see you here

[@auredio6838]

Yeah he that launcher is amazing and i also love that saying.

[@wabudo]

This saying should be a shirt at the shop.

[@boss_bonard7573]

in Germany we also use the saying. it's "der Weg ist das Ziel" in our language. i think it's a great quote to live by

[@aaronhall1286]

Have you seen the Mythbusters episode about the deadly throwing card? Jamie had the ingenious idea of using a very high RPM wheel to shoot the card. Also created alot of spin on the card.

[@wetoddedd1]

As I was watching the video, I had the uncanny feeling like I'd seen this problem before on Mythbusters. Your comment sparked my memory. Adam tried to make throwing design (much like Shane's disc thrower here), and Jamie essentially made a very high speed pitching machine. I believe that you are right to suggest Jamie's design, as not only was it fast, it imparted some lateral speed to the playing cards as you say. If Shane wanted to make a pitching machine for his discs, one potential solution that he could implement would be to make a larger version of the foam disc shooter toys, which rely on the same principles.

[@derekjmarr]

I had to pause the video and wait for my laughing to subside when he said "I couldn't have hit more things if I tried", with the perfect little crash tinkle at the end.

[@Itcouldbefunnier]

Amazing work. Your problem with turn can possibly be fixed by putting the arm on a "hyzer" angle - having the left side of the disc angeled downward. The speed will naturally make the disc "stand up" and go to the right. In disc golf we call this hyzer flipping.

[@nicholastoth472]

I came to the comments to say exactly that.

[@Reddragon-lf3uq]

and use the Tilt

[@mattwis86]

Yep. At 23:00 the quick cut of "all of the discs in all of the configurations" appears to only either launch the discs flat or angle the arm the wrong way. That quick montage immediately jumped out to me as throwing it wrong

[@smokin411]

Exactly, you need to allow a pre tilt so it doesn't turn completely over.

[@bensalemi7783]

I was literally yelling “Throw on hyzer!” at the video. 🤣 This is actually a really interesting project, because I think a uniform throwing robot is one of the things that would take the disc design and manufacture process to the next level. You could actually see the flight numbers unified between brands, and the various plastics/runs of molds quantified in how they differed from the original run.

[@PopsGG]

14:13 "I think you know the drill at this point"...shows a drill. I love it.

[@colin10974]

Scott Pilgrim vs the Disc

[@JustPlainRob]

Your acting is pretty convincing, but the real MVP is the lady who plays your wife on this show. She's definitely the best character.

[@luketowner]

13:20 Imagine that death message, “killed by insane disc contraption”

[@jessicacon]

LMFAO

[@pixelkatten]

This was unexpectedly hilarious! I've always loved how you show your design iteration process, but together with the dry humor and the sheer slapstick of the robot exploding and throwing frisbees into your workshop the video becomes a mix of technology and comedy! I laughed a lot!

[@puzzLEGO]

suggestion: generally throwing with the outside edge lower will be much less likely for it to flop to the right similarly to what happened there, instead it will stabilise and go much further.

[@dustrider9306]

I 2nd that!

[@joshstroud1424]

Exactly what I was thinking, Give it some anhyzer

[@jabscka]

@@joshstroud1424 Hyzer is what you mean, sir.

[@chrissutton6235]

Yep! He's throwing into the roll. If he lowers the edge, the roll will result in flattening, which will give lift, then roll back over. Basically looking for an S curve.... he has an amazing roller angle tho!

[@ArsenicDrone]

Yeah, this looks like it would have to throw what's known as a 'hyzer flip' to succeed

[@A1eafFa11s_Turtles]

Baseball pitching machine mechanism. Much simpler to build, and would put a ton of spin on the disc if the driving wheels are off-center. Also, I’d look into which discs have a reputation for torque resistance. The RocX3 has a great rep for forearm throws because of its torque resistance, and there may be even better discs than that. In any case, cool video.

[@shikamaru281281]

Hate to break this to you but, the fastest throw was by Louis Sebastian in 2009. The frisbee circled the world at ~1,067,190 MPH. You can find the video here on KZbin.

[@ShapeKeyes]

"This disk IS regulation" "This part is too big to fail" "... which is a perfect use for this valve that I thought was useless" Gold! Pure gold!

[@diamondflaw]

I just realized that this problem is basically the same one that clay pigeon traps (throwers) are made for. C&rsenal has a fun series of videos called "It's a Trap!" where they go into a bunch of vintage clay pigeon traps with different mechanisms. I wonder if some of those could be cool inspiration for another version of this?

[@zicnov4794]

My exact thought

[@jagx234]

First thing I thought of. Reinventing the wheel a bit, I thought.

[@cobblerama]

Hope he sees this comment!

[@Furby_assassin]

Thought the same thing. Should have looked through the comments before I commented.

[@Brentbrussell]

Came looking for this same comment. A scaled up version of a hand thrower seems like an obvious route to explore further. A hand thrower on an old golf shaft will launch a pigeon!

[@SpydersByte]

10:10 Im just a little bit proud of myself for thinking of that torque force the second you separated those counter rotating arms like that back around minute 3 :D (then again maybe it was because I had already seen the wood snap in the intro, who knows)

[@knight-knight]

It is crazy how big Dynamic Discs is. I used to buy discs from Jeremy Rusco when he first started selling them. That was like 25 years ago. He sold them out of his bedroom. His company has done a lot for the sport and my home town.

[@daveys]

As soon as you did the “hey wife” part, I knew that a skinny rod was coming. Still made me chuckle though.

[@roccobierman4985]

She never misses an opportunity to emasculate him.

@@roccobierman4985 I think you should study this thing called "humor".

[@bmxscape]

@@roccobierman4985 lol who hurt u rocco

[@CaptainNinjaKid]

Having this guy's sleep schedule has made me see it on release

[@fahqkitty]

I know this video is older now, but if you release the disc with the outer edge lower on release, it will flatten out in flight before coming back the way it’s supposed to. It’s called turnover, the less stable the disc, the more likely it is to turn and flip like you saw.