Stump Removal! Kioti Backhoe and Grapple! “I won’t do this again!”

[@danielhenry52]

From a random guy who just cleared and stumped 3 acres this year to make field space(mind you I bought a small excavator for the job, but also have a backhoe) 1. Leaving the stump a bit taller can give you added leverage to finish off the last remaining roots under a stump you can’t get to. 2. Don’t be afraid to make the hole bigger than you’d like- the grass grows back, and the roots are easier for the machine to break farther from the stump. Added Benefit is you get more wood out of the ground and less settling over time. 3. The loader and backhoe curl is much stronger than the loader lift or dipper stick - and can break roots easier. Rather than try to “lift” stump with loader, try to get bucket under and use the curl. All lessons I learned diggin a couple hundred stumps this year. Overall you did a great job and didn’t break machine. That’s a win all day. Looked like a tough stump regardless.

[@tractorrookie]

😊 Hi buddy! Wow! 3 acres?! That’s crazy. Some great advice! Very much appreciated. Happy New Year!!!🇺🇸🚜🍺

[@JDPrimeFit]

Shows the practical use of a compact tractor. Thank you.

[@tractorrookie]

Hi JDPrimeFit! Yes! Thank you! I appreciate you checking out the channel!🚜🇺🇸😅

[@Mustang-mike302]

Hi Mike! I found with my mini excavator the easiest way to remove stump is to not cut the tree first. I loosing up roots then push tree over. Most of the roots come up out of ground then. Love your videos, keep on trucking!

[@tractorrookie]

😊👍 Hi Mike, That’s a good point! I had not given that much thought, but that makes sense. Thanks for checking out the video! See you on the next one!🍺🚜🇺🇸

[@donaldstrishock3923]

Funny my "dinosaurs " show up when digging also. It just takes a lot of "nibbling". Brute force never works; it just breaks tractors. Good to see all your "lawnmowers" out ( the "kids"), keeping the place tuned-up.Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.

[@tractorrookie]

😊 Hi Donald, Yes! Slow and steady! Don’t really want to break anything. Chickens are a bittersweet! As I am sure you have experienced! Thanks for checking out the video. Take care!🚜🇺🇸🍺

[@m9ovich785]

HOLLY COW that is a monster Root ball, You ain't kidding that Tree has been there a long time . hope you had some fill dirt to put back in there. I cringed when you went in there with a Chainsaw, Thanks Mike. Mike M.

[@tractorrookie]

👊💪 Hi Mike! Did not bring in dirt yet, letting it settle and sink some. Now I am battling the mole that moved in. Yes! I have got some backlash about the chainsaw, it’s just a little dirt! No rocks. Everything cleaned up just fine. Definitely contrary to the way you want to use a saw, but those roots were not letting go on the end of an axe that I would be holding 😂😜 I can always get more chainsaw chains😎 Thanks for checking it out! Take care!🇺🇸🍺🚜

[@lonewolfFirearms]

Hi Mike, I dig out one hickory stump like that and I swear there was a much tree under ground as was above ground. After my wife saw what a huge hole I dug up in the yard she went on line and ordered a stump grinder for my kioti tractor from woodland mills. She said no more destroying so much of the yard. I can't complain since I have a new toy coming to play with.

[@tractorrookie]

😂😊👊👍Hi Bill! That’s awesome! What a good woman! A new tool for the property is definitely a bonus! Very cool! Thanks for sharing!🚜🇺🇸🍺

[@mikewatson4644]

Nobody realizes how much a tree is underground until they start trying to dig out a stump. Good job. Clean all the dirt off the roots before taking the chainsaw to it. Saves the sharpness of the chain. Enjoying your channel. Subscribed.

[@tractorrookie]

👍😊 Hi Mike! Right?! Yes! You are definitely correct about not knowing what is underground. A good learning experience. Cleaning dirt off the roots would have been a good move, cleaning the chainsaws was not so fun😌 Thanks for checking out the video and subscribing! Take care 🍺🚜🌲🇺🇸

[@graemetracybradshaw9871]

Wow ! Marathon effort Mate. Well done

[@tractorrookie]

😊👍 Hi Graemetracybradahaw, Yes! It was a challenge, but I was sort of committed.🤣😜 Thanks for checking it out! Take care!!!🚜🍺🌲

[@newhampshire-bob1604]

Slow and steady wins the race!

[@tractorrookie]

👊👍 Hi NewHampshire Bob! Right?! 😂😊 Thanks for checking out the video!🚜🇺🇸🍺

[@gentleman5845]

Hey Mike some patience you have. A good way to play outside with your Kioti and stay away from your lady's kitchen!! I heard that using a few bags of charcoal bricks can do magic. Never tried it myself but seems the trick is to drill a hole in the middle of the stump cut flat to the ground and just lay a pile of those bags and light them up. The stump should burn slowly deep in the ground and leave no mess behind. Well, so a friend said. You handle that Kioti very well and I love the setup of your land. I got the chicks :) I still need the land and surely a Kioti. Take care!

[@tractorrookie]

🤣😂Hi Gentleman!! Thanks buddy! Yes, there was some sense of accomplishment. I definitely like the idea if setting a fire and roasting some dogs!!!😂😅 I appreciate you checking out the video! Take care!!🇺🇸🍺🚜

[@timbervisions]

I personally didn't opt for a backhoe when I bought my Kioti CS2520. It's a bit smaller than yours as well. The price for it was more than I wanted to spend for little I would use it, plus it's a larger footprint with a hoe installed. I did however just purchase and finally got my 3 point stump grinder. If a person was going to plant where a stump was grinding is not the way to go, but if just seeding grass in that spot it is way faster and disturbs the rest of the lawn less. Watching your video confirms my choice and I'm glad you made this video so I could see that. Great job on the video and getting that monster stump out.

[@tractorrookie]

👍👊Hi TV, Thanks! Yes! The backhoe is a spendy option. I used it a lot when we first bought the property. I put in several utility lines. Now it sits most of the time. Regarding the stump video, if I had to do it again, I would probably grind it. This particular tree has quite a ground crown. I am looking forward to mowing without the obstacle, once the lawn it fixed.😅😂I appreciate you checking out the video! Take care!🚜🍺🇺🇸

[@KingsOutdoorLife]

Awesome job man! I need a grapple and backhoe! Or better friends!😂🤣

[@tractorrookie]

🚜👍😊😜 Thanks!!

[@croquest8749]

Did pull couple of stumps that way. Yes its fun and yes it works. Switched to stump grinding things as it just simply takes less time to do it.

[@tractorrookie]

😊😎Hi croquets! Roger that! I hear you! A much better approach - I must agree! Thanks for checking out the video!🚜🇺🇸🍺

[@backyardcountrylivin1514]

Hey Mike, awesome job. Man that stump was a beast. 🚜🚜

[@tractorrookie]

👍😊 Thanks Pal! I have to say, I was a little surprised what was underground. 😂🥲 I appreciate you checking it out! Take care!🇺🇸🚜🍺

[@projectswithjw]

I also can't keep my chickens out of the way when I'm digging. The follow my tractor like I'm gonna throw off treats in a parade float. 🤣

[@tractorrookie]

😂🤣 I hear you ! I guess there are worse problems to have, particularly with the price of eggs nowadays! Take care’n🇺🇸🚜🍺

[@judith98630]

Persistence wins the day!

[@tractorrookie]

👍😊💪Hi Judith!Very true! Thanks for checking out the video!🚜🍺🇺🇸

[@robertrapp5953]

Nice job with the backhoe with the stumps. I have a CK3510SE with a backhoe and one thing that has helped me tremendously is getting a smaller bucket for the hoe. I got a 9" for about $300 from the dealer and it is night and day difference in terms of strength in applications like this. Not to mention how much better for trenching.

[@tractorrookie]

👍💪Hi Robert! That makes total sense. That would make a big difference. I wish I would have done that before I did all my trenching. I appreciate you checking out the video! Take care!😊🍺🚜🇺🇸

[@donaldstrishock3923]

That was CHEEP. My " kubogy " Bh92 buckets ( next size bigger) cost an arm & leg. The are "quick-attach" ( what a blessing)( scraped the "pin-on" styles"). With 24"=1100$,a 18"= 950$,&a 12"=900$,& quick-coupler =700$,thumb = 950$. With this chunk of change invested l almost "hate" the color orange.( luckily had the TLB paid fer before l started "slapping on" the extras.Gots to have the buckets to be efficient. Best wishes with all your endeavours.

[@michaelm8853]

Solid advice.

[@ladwiss]

That was a great video. Kinda' glad in a way I don't have a back hoe for my Kioti. I think I would be digging all sorts of hole after rocks that are to big to get out. Nice job

[@tractorrookie]

😊💪👊Hi Kioti Hills! Yes, I hear you! Oh , so very tempting to dig up everything 😂 Thanks for stopping by! Appreciate it! 🚜🇺🇸🍺

[@meadsoutdooradventures]

That's the reason I still have large stumps in the yard. Need to find a friend with a stump grinder.

[@tractorrookie]

👊💪 Hi Meads! Right?! True story! Like having a friend with a boat! It’s always better than owning one! Thanks for checking out the video!🇺🇸🍺🚜

[@Rail9222]

Way to show that stump who’s boss.👍

[@tractorrookie]

😊😂👊💪Thanks Pal! 🇺🇸🚜🍺

[@willphelps6715]

That was a HUGE root! Forgive my ignorance, since i'm about to buy my first sizable lot of land to build a house and do some gardening, but can I ask some questions? There's a lot of trees on the lot I'm buying and I was thinking of getting a compact tractor to help with the trees and firewood. The builder only clears the house pad plus 40 feet around it. Since I' won't know where my gardens and chickens will go until later, I'd like to take down the trees in those areas myself. Do you think the backhoe is a valuable attachment for the tractor? What about the grapple? I've been watching this guy "Brain Homestead" and he's been pulling out stumps using only ropes, snatch blocks and pulleys. He does use a small tractor as well, but mostly to pull the ropes... he doesn't really dig around the root. I think you could have saved SOME of your digging if you'd have used that method after cutting those big roots. And you could have changed the direction of your pull to stay away from the drain pipe, or whatever you were avoiding. I wonder what your fuel costs were to do all that digging verses using the block/tackle for some of it. Just my 2 cents from someone who has never had a tractor before and only dug out one stump by hand in my youth. Great video. Thanks for posting it.

[@tractorrookie]

Hi Will, I bought the tractor with a backhoe new in 2019. I just sold it and bought a cab tractor. I used the backhoe to put in our utilities and to do some digging. If I had to do the stump over again, I would have used a stump grinder. After using the backhoe for a few things, it mostly sat. The grapple is an outstanding tool for moving brush efficiently. I don’t think pulling stumps out is a viable option. Renting an excavator to remove stumps is a good way to go. Having a small tractor to clean up and maintain a property is priceless. Good luck with your purchase. Thanks for checking out the video! Cheers

[@hellogoodbye3129]

Nice job. Might I suggest investing in some cable, snatch blocks, and stakes? The cable fits perfectly under the backhoe chassis, and the pin fits perfectly in the eyelet where the ball hitch slides in. Its alot cheaper than the stump grinder, and has many uses. You are stressing your front end loader. And to drag it, an old truck hood works great. You lay it down next to the stump, roll stump over on it. And drag away with your ball hitch turned down. You need a choker hook. Which is also handy to pull the stump out. Tractor supply for about $225. Good luck buddy.

[@tractorrookie]

Hey Hello Goodbye! I have lots of cable and even a winch setup for the back of the tractor, of course I have to take the backhoe off. Stress on the loader is a daily occurrence around here, although I should try to work smarter. At the price of diesel, my tractor might be yard art soon !!!😊😜 I appreciate your feedback and checking out the video! Take care!🇺🇸🚜🍺

[@hellogoodbye3129]

@@tractorrookie that's right I forgot you had the attachments. Well hopefully the nonsense stops soon and we can get back to using our tractors the way God intended. Precariously. Thanks for the videos!

[@tractorrookie]

👍👊💪😜😂🇺🇸🍺🌲

[@dzroc]

How deep can that backhoe attachment dig? Wondering if im not better off buying a chinese excavator for 7k over the kioti backhoe attachment for 8k

[@tractorrookie]

Hi there, I recently sold my CK3520H with the backhoe. I purchased a new CK2620 cab and a bobcat e26 mini excavator. I have found advantages to both. The backhoe was great for putting in utilities and some other chores. The tractor moves much faster than the excavator and is more nimble. The excavator has more digging ability and better reach. You can google the backhoe you are considering and it will give you the specs. Here’s what I found; The Kioti KB2475 is a backhoe attachment for Kioti tractors that can trench up to 94 inches deep and has a bucket dig force of up to 3,748 pounds. It has the following features: Hydraulics: Self-contained hydraulics and two-lever hydraulic controls Buckets: Comes with a variety of buckets, including

[@ricojmartinez]

Thanks for this! I was working this weekend to remove an old Redbud. Started thinking I need a backhoe for my CK3510SE for stumps and trenches, etc. Now I'm not so sure! Would you mind sharing info on your backhoe thumb? It looks to be hydraulic, yeah?

[@tractorrookie]

😊👍Hi Rico! Yes, a backhoe is super handy if you have lots to do. Especially if you work and have to rent equipment on your off hours. When we first purchased the property I did a lot of work with the backhoe. Now, 3 years later it mostly sits. Priced between $6500-8500, depending if your tractor is plumbed for it, it’s spendy. The thumb is mechanical / it has several pin slots you adjust for the sizes you are dealing with. I bought it from the dealership for $333, not sure what they are now! Thanks for checking out the video!🍺🚜🇺🇸

[@gilesfitzherbert7725]

Hope you kept the fallen wood, cherry turns well. I would have considered leaving the trunk as high as possible and having a sculptor look at it with a view to carving something :)

[@tractorrookie]

Hi there! Yep, kept all the wood. I appreciate you checking out the video. Cheers!🇺🇸🚜

[@PeeWeeHenson]

I ADMIRE YOUR TENACITY. THE MORE YOU DIG THE FURTHER YOU GET FROM THE STUMP

[@tractorrookie]

Thanks PeeWee! I appreciate the view and comment. Cheers!

[@BobbeeSingh]

The dirt didn't bother your chain saw?

[@tractorrookie]

😐Hi Bobby! Cutting into dirt is definitely not ideal. I had limited options with the roots the size of tree trunks. I found as long as you monitor lubrication and avoid rocks, it’s survivable. One of the chains was toast, wouldn’t come clean. Thanks for checking out the video!🚜🍺🇺🇸

[@Kevinhobbytime]

I picked up a woodland mills pto stump grinder for my ck2610, i love my tractor. Picked up a grapple from “everything attachments” now im working on getting the backhoe. Fun video right up until you pulled all that weight with the center of the bucket, made me cringe. Ive already had to rebend my quick tach plates back into alignment from some loader pulling ive done. Now i strictly pull with the hitch and if i need to lift its from both corners of the bucket. Does your tractor have the “540pto E” and “540pto” markings on the tach? I run everything on the “e” (economy idle) unless its really heavy then i kick it up to the higher level. So glad i went kioti rather than kubota or deere.

[@tractorrookie]

😊Hi Kevin! Nice! Sounds like a really nice setup! Remember, I don’t make how to videos. Often, they are about what not to do. Awesome to hear your Kioti is running strong. Yes, I have the 540e! I’m always learning! Thanks for watching!🚜🇺🇸👊

[@BobbeeSingh]

What HP is your tractor and what RPM do you use when running the backhoe?

[@tractorrookie]

👍😊Hi Bobby! The Kioti CK3510SE is basically 34 hp. It depends on the job what I run the RPMs at. I have been told I run them too low. I generally function on the conservative side, but I would say, 15-2000. Thanks for stopping by the channel. 🇺🇸🚜🍺

[@prow6586]

Nicely done!! How many RPMs do you run when using the backhoe? I've got a Wild Cherry that needs removed and I don't like the size of those roots. Lucky for me so far I was able to leave the stumps of the ones I cut down. I just pick away at the stump with bucket or landscape box as it rots away. Thanks for the hours/days of work spent to give us 24 minutes of viewing. 🍻🤠🙃

[@tractorrookie]

Hey Prow! Thanks buddy! Usually at about 15-20 on the dial. I’m no expert, I just try to give it enough juice so it is not struggling. That’s funny you mentioned the time involved. I told my wife, I got three days work down to 24 minutes 😂😅. Take care!🍺🇺🇸🚜

[@prow6586]

Hi Mike, I have a backhoe on a RK24....pretty much all work, backhoe and loader has to be done at 2500-3000 rpm. Your's sounds like you are running at idle in comparison. BTW my NH bit the dust and I have a KIOTI CK3510SE with FEL only coming next week. Prices have jumped 💲🤑. Dealer salesmen are sitting around and "take a number" or "take it or leave it $....next" Sorry sorta bad taste in mouth from my dealer. 😭🤬 Will be watching your vids again for tips and ideas. Later, Paul 🍻🤠🦅

[@tractorrookie]

Paul! Sorry to hear the dealership is being that way. It is definitely strange times! Congratulations on the new tractor! I probably tend to be too low on RPMs, the backhoe gets pretty jerky if I run it up🙃 Have fun on your new tractor, I hope the delivery goes smoothly! Talk to you soon!🚜🌲🤠

[@annieboulton5759]

Well done Mike. That was a job and a half!!! Just how long did this take you? It was a brilliant video, satisfying to see you get that all out in the end 🙌

[@tractorrookie]

😊💪 Hi Annie!! Yes! It was a bear!! I won’t do that again!!😂 it was four different days. The last day was a full one! Thanks! I appreciate you checking it out!😎🇺🇸🚜🍺Take care!

[@bradjackson6737]

Everyone wants to cut low. Leave a tall section for leverage to rock that root.

[@tractorrookie]

😊🌲Hi Brad, Roger that! Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. Happy new year!🚜🇺🇸🍺

[@robbobcat7286]

Sawzall works great in dirt.... lol 300.00 stump grinder

[@tractorrookie]

☺️😊Right?! Yes! Lots of options! That’s why I’m the tractor rookie. Learning lessons and putting it all out there for folks to critique. Thanks for checking out the video!🌲🚜💪🇺🇸

[@larasea741]

DANG!!! Not fun from my perspective. I have pulled stump and dug stumps, but no more. I invested in a PTO stump grinder. Much easier and less time consuming. Commercial stump grinder companies are too expensive. PTO stump grinder 30 minutes to do that stump. That was brutal. Good luck.

[@tractorrookie]

😅👍💪Thanks for checking out the video!🇺🇸🚜

[@jacknimble1]

Easier way to do it from experience... Just use the hoe to dig a foot down around the stump, use a water hose to wash all the soil off, use a chain saw to cut the stump below grade and back fill.

[@tractorrookie]

👍😊Hi Jack! Thanks!! If I ever consider doing that again! I’ll give that a shot! I appreciate you checking out the video and commenting! Happy new year!!🚜🇺🇸🍺

[@emilmakin1401]

@@tractorrookie That sounds like a great idea. I will also try that. Thanks for the info.

[@kipcudd7253]

It takes time to remove a stump with a small backhoe, I've done it with a John deere 1025r with a backhoe, smaller and less hydraulics than your kioti. I'd get my big axe when I'd get a root exposed as I won't run my saw in the dirt. Kinda makes you wish you had a 10 ton excavator huh!

[@tractorrookie]

Hi Kip!👍👊 I hear you! I was knee deep in this deal and trying to beat the rain. I never thought to use my saw in the dirt until I had to use one for roots on a fence post hole. It actually worked well. It wasn’t near as bad on the saw chain as I expected, the saw cleanup and sharpening was a pain, but blood, sweat, and tears seems to happen on these projects. Big excavator, I’m on board with that! Thanks for stopping by!!! Take care!🇺🇸🍺🚜

[@kipcudd7253]

Pull from all directions, got to wiggle it to break it loose.

[@tractorrookie]

Right?!😅🥲

[@TheTennesseeFrontier]

How you doing Mike?! Fellow operator, sawyer and NEW subscriber here! Stumps can be awfully deceiving. What really surprised me about this Cherry stump was the size of the roots proportion to the diameter of the tree!?! Don't feel bad about the amount of time it took you to dig out that stump. I have a 20,000 lb. excavator, and I have been plumb ashamed of how long it took me to dig out Oak stumps that big. lol I'm looking forward to following along to see what you and the Kioti accomplish. If you get a chance . . . hop over and check out our channel! Have a great week, and stay safe out there! - Samuel P.S. - I enjoyed watching the Dinosaurs. lol

[@tractorrookie]

😊👍💪 Hi Samual, right?! That stump was crazy! Thanks for the words of encouragement. Good to know I’m not the only one! I appreciate the follow and thanks for reaching out! I will definitely head over to your channel. Take care!🍺🚜🇺🇸

[@bert26a]

That poor chainsaw, better off with a stump grinder.

[@tractorrookie]

Hi Bert! Right?! I know, I feel bad! Lesson learned! Thanks for stopping by!

[@jimsmith6816]

Chain a tree to the stump and twist it in a circle.

[@tractorrookie]

😊 Hi Jim! That’s one I have not heard! Thanks! Take care!🍺🇺🇸🚜

[@corvetteflorida]

Maybe just me being overly cautious, but I was really cringing every time you used the chain saw without wearing eye protection. A chip of wood flung into your eye can really ruin your day for you.

[@tractorrookie]

😊Hi Corvette! Nope! You are correct! I generally wear my protective gear and should. I have been to the eye doctor for metal in my eye and that time I was wearing eye protection. Thanks for the reminder and for checking out the video. 🍺🚜🇺🇸

[@eithanlong1355]

A loose chain is very dangerous and so is no technique.

[@tractorrookie]

Sounds like you have some expertise to share, but you didn’t. Maybe it was just an observation and criticism. Thanks for checking out the video 🚜🇺🇸

[@shockley7500]

Chickens did all the work. Quit the pretending.

[@tractorrookie]

😂🤣 They are little dinosaurs! Take care!!🚜🇺🇸

[@brucedeleskey8540]

To much work whith this little tractor just grind it and be done whith it

[@tractorrookie]

Yeah! What he said!🚜🇺🇸

[@deanwilson7047]

top drill side drill dump a little fuel in and light stump bye bye and ya could have a few wobbly pops watching it disappear

[@tractorrookie]

😊👍Sounds like fun! Thanks for checking it out!🇺🇸🍺🚜