Get Festool Domino style joinery for pennies!

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Stumpy Nubs (James Hamilton)

Stumpy Nubs (James Hamilton)

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@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 8 ай бұрын
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@harpintn
@harpintn 8 ай бұрын
I have seen a number of different jigs for using a router as an alternate way of doing that.. Some simple like yours, and other were quite complex.
@yogibarista2818
@yogibarista2818 8 ай бұрын
Festool originally patented the Domino in 2004. In the USA patents last for 20 years. Of course, all sorts of shenanigans get played with updates etc, but the basic concept is due for protection expiry.
@honda6353
@honda6353 8 ай бұрын
The cut line for fence was brilliant, never thought of doing that.
@philshock3805
@philshock3805 8 ай бұрын
Just comes down to what's most important ... time or money. If time IS money like in a production environment, springing for a Domino is a no brainer. But if you're simply a hobbyist making one-off pieces of furniture for your home, a plunge router works just as effectively. That's a great tip with the splined fence, Stumpy!
@FrugalShave
@FrugalShave 8 ай бұрын
Eggzactly
@harpintn
@harpintn 8 ай бұрын
Well stated. The home hobbyist that makes 1 to 3 pieces a year can't afford $1200 for a tool that does one thing quick and easy when there are ways to take advantage of an existing tool to get the same results.
@looopy2u
@looopy2u 8 ай бұрын
All tools are cheap if they make you a profit. I think there are many non professionals looking at tools made for pros/profit making, so the tools seem expensive.
@gund89123
@gund89123 8 ай бұрын
Do businesses use this tool for mass production? They probably have specialized tools.
@chrimony
@chrimony 8 ай бұрын
@@gund89123 You're forgetting custom woodworkers who build for profit, but not mass production.
@polosandoval
@polosandoval 8 ай бұрын
If you are a woodworking professional your tools are your livelihood. For a home tinkerer like myself this is an excellent way to achieve the same. Thanks
@chasrabey8274
@chasrabey8274 8 ай бұрын
I recall you made a similar video for a jig like this some time ago ...... I cannot begin to tell you how useful that was, I now make all my 'mortise & tenon' joints with a copy of that jig, slightly modified to suit my own needs, but a fantastically useful jig. BIG thanx!!
@redacted547
@redacted547 8 ай бұрын
Do you remember the specific video that featured this jig? I'd love to see it!
@redacted547
@redacted547 8 ай бұрын
Oh wait, did I totally not realize that the jig is essentially the same as the on in this video? 😆 I'm still interested in what the other video was though haha
@jeremygunkel
@jeremygunkel 8 ай бұрын
@@redacted547it is called Make loose-tenon joinery without a Festool Domino
@mrgiblet
@mrgiblet 7 ай бұрын
@@redacted547check out the videos of peter millard’s 10 minute workshop. It’s somewhere in there
@johndoe6032
@johndoe6032 8 ай бұрын
Nice quick jig. 3x3 Custom has also made an excellent jig that is a little more work but a lot more customizable. I highly recommend it.
@rainbowbudgies1129
@rainbowbudgies1129 7 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate your meticulous, clear instructions. I always find I have a better understanding of “how and why” after I have watched your videos. You have a way of simplifying and incrementing your explanations that helps me very much. Thank you.
@gjanalog5675
@gjanalog5675 6 күн бұрын
If you make furniture, festool domino is an essential tool if time and facility are any issue. I dont have one, but dream nightly of owning one.
@dkpianist
@dkpianist 8 ай бұрын
Classic Stumpy Nubs - practical, concise and unpretentious. One of the best woodworking channels. Thank you.
@davey820051
@davey820051 8 ай бұрын
This is a great technique, and the bomb-proof tip on getting the fence exactly parallel alone makes the video worth watching. I remember the channel had a very similar video a few years back, with the main difference being that James lacked the Spock-in-a-parallel-universe goatee. Good to present this material for the benefit of those newer to the channel and as a refresher for long time viewers. Thumbs up for Tay Tools-they're great to deal with and have lots of useful vids on their own KZbin channel.
@paulkramer4176
@paulkramer4176 8 ай бұрын
As usual, well done James. Some nice improvements to your jig too. As others have added, there are lots of alternatives to Fesstool Dominoes. I've made lots of things, from huge doors to small furniture with mortises cut with chisels after drilling out waste. Later I got a small hollow chisel mortiser. Worked well, but not fast. When making dozens of windows, I found a used chain mortiser that greatly sped up the operation. Great for making big mortises on lots of things. But I bought a Domino jointer 15 years ago, and later an XL. They WERE expensive. But the time they save me makes them very worth while. I could have gotten by without the XL I suppose, but it has been used on probably 1000 or more mortises, and I'm happy with it. There are always ways to do things differently. The Domino is just an amazingly accurate machine that takes a lot of time out of set up. Not necessary, but for someone that does work with wood every day, it is a darn useful tool. I'm glad to pay for the accuracy and the ease of adjusting to each project need. It is not just the ability to "rout" deep mortises. It is the ability to quickly register from an edge to you slot, to change that register in increments, to go back again, to widen slots, to quickly change depths, etc. I certainly don't own a lot of Fesstool products, because while they are usually a cut above, the comparable drill, sander, etc, but I can get by with something considerably cheaper, but I do admire their commitment to quality. For the Domino, it is not just a better made product, it is truly unique.
@nathanhubler
@nathanhubler 8 ай бұрын
I have to agree with you. I work at in a small factory (less than 20 employees, including 6 builders) making custom furniture, mostly tables, and our domino machine is well worth it because of the precision (for when it’s needed, sometimes it truly is) and its ease of adjustability (like mortises in a miter). I would probably never buy one if it was just me, but for our size shop it’s awesome.
@cuebj
@cuebj 8 ай бұрын
Excellent comment. I think FinishCarpentry has moved to Festool. He found his Domino pretty much paid for itself with just one door for his own house, let alone this professional work. His doors would have cost a couple of thousand $s with the timber and the machining
@nopriors
@nopriors 13 күн бұрын
I always enjoy cutting the mortise and the tenon
@johndaniels9957
@johndaniels9957 8 ай бұрын
I have no problem with Festool other than price. If you have a high volume cabinet shop, go for it. The cost makes any Festool product unnecessary in a hobbyist shop. Besides, Norm showed us how to do loose-tennon joinery with a router 30 years ago. If it's good enough for Norm. . .
@pete_lind
@pete_lind 8 ай бұрын
Waiting Makita Domino, when Festool patents end in this year. 🙂 Festool has been in business 100 years, mainly with its patens, new is guide railless plunge saw, tech from a router, so thats maybe coming soon. Tech may work on router just fine, it's harder to control circular saw blade.
@bothorsen4292
@bothorsen4292 8 ай бұрын
I completely disagree with this. I'm very much a hobby guy and the Festool I own allows me to create better things. The precision of the tools help me be a better woodworker. I have non Festool machines too, and it's so easy to feel the difference in how precise I am. For a professional, this is irrelevant. They can do good work no matter the quality of the tool. But for me it makes a huge difference. Also, the dust collection is so good that my shop is much cleaner and the air quality is better. For example, I just replaced my old miter saw with a Festool and the dust difference is amazing. I don't have professional air filtration systems, so my tools will have to do a lot of this. Festool helps. I don't have a domino, though, and I won't ever buy one. This is a tool that - as I see it - is all about speed of joinery. Hobbyists don't need speed as much as professionals - although we will of course take it when we can.
@lylewaters6161
@lylewaters6161 8 ай бұрын
@@bothorsen4292I completely agree with everything you’ve said here, except I do plan on buying a domino if they ever make a cordless version.
@andydaoust2030
@andydaoust2030 8 ай бұрын
@@bothorsen4292 I also agree with your take. I bought a RO150 Festool sander to sand all the maple trim in my house while living there. It was faster, used less sandpaper, and was virtually dust free. I needed a smaller random sander, but couldn't justify the cost of a Festool. I bought the Dewalt. The dust control was terrible, it was slow and noisy. I took it back and got a Festool sander. That one project where I didn't have to dust out the whole house made it worth the cost. I since have bought a Domino for doing my cabinets and built ins. I am a home hobbyist that works long hours at my job. Having the Domino allows my to economize my off time to get things done. Additionally, once you have the tool, you use it for ridiculous projects because you can.
@simonb700
@simonb700 7 ай бұрын
If it’s about price then we’d all buy our furniture at a discount store not make it!
@kalleeloranta2534
@kalleeloranta2534 7 ай бұрын
You are a KZbin gem, I have truly enjoyed your videos. Explained with intelligens and clearity. Sorry about my poor english.
@frankshannon3235
@frankshannon3235 2 ай бұрын
I think it's pretty clear that the Domino stands alone. Nothing beats is speed, convenience, ease of use and dust collection. And on top of that it's fun to use. Zero stress. It can make mortises of any length or width. The 500 has a maximum depth of 28mm and the XL has a max depth of 70mm. Seneca Tools makes an adaptor that allows you to use 500 cutters on the XL. I bought my 500 in 2008. Early adopter. It's still going strong. In terms of ROI over the life of the tool it's almost like they're paying you to have one. I'll concede that If you're 80 it might not be that great an investment. If I was buying today I think I'd go with the XL.
@LittleShadowWoodcraft
@LittleShadowWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Stumpy! One of those “It’s so simple” moments that you don’t know why you hadn’t thought of it before. Great tip!
@chasrabey8274
@chasrabey8274 8 ай бұрын
PS: Thanks to you I now only use 3M cubitron ...... fantastic product ..... plan to make a chisel sharpening jig as per another one of your ideas for using cubitron!!
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 8 ай бұрын
I've always used dowels. They are quick and easy to use and all I need is a drill and an inexpensive dowel jig. I've never needed to use mortice and tenon. Should I reconsider?
@meperson
@meperson 8 ай бұрын
I don't see why you would change what works for you. Best domino replacement in the dowel.
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 8 ай бұрын
@@meperson Thank you.
@michaelmcgrath7465
@michaelmcgrath7465 8 ай бұрын
Now even happier that I have a Domino. Over the past 15 years it has saved me countless hours of set up and fiddling about. I use for all kinds of angled, offset and traditional tenon work. Save yourself a lot of headache and just use the Domino. Priceless.
@kevindurica6092
@kevindurica6092 8 ай бұрын
And you can almost always find the used/barely used for a way cheaper price and less time 😂😂😂
@ForensicEng
@ForensicEng 8 ай бұрын
It is most definitely not 'priceless'!
@sirkildalot8409
@sirkildalot8409 4 ай бұрын
Wish I could afford one
@bigredracingdog466
@bigredracingdog466 2 ай бұрын
It's interesting how almost all the KZbinrs who show us ways to get around not having a Domino, have a Domino. As good as all these alternatives are, it's still faster and easier with a Domino. I sold my benchtop mortiser to defray some of the cost. Before I had to take my workpiece to the machine. Now I can bring the machine to the workpiece.
@theftworthrealtor
@theftworthrealtor Ай бұрын
Excellent...going to try this when I make my new workbench...now I just need to find the video on how to make tenons....😁😁
@dangr123
@dangr123 2 ай бұрын
Domino is one of the first tools I bought
@winstonmatthews6815
@winstonmatthews6815 7 ай бұрын
Great idea and help to visualize the process. Thanks.
@alberthancock4237
@alberthancock4237 8 ай бұрын
Good video, it works. I might use it for a special unavailable size domino, however time is of the essence for me, so the domino is my preference. Of course I own one, but if you are only going to do a few, and don't want to pay fesstool a lot of money, your suggestion is great!
@RidgidRon
@RidgidRon 8 ай бұрын
You always deliver good information-thank you. That is why watch your channel and take your lessons/information as solid advice to consider.
@mikedurkee7296
@mikedurkee7296 8 ай бұрын
James, you hit it out of the park again! I will be doing this in the near future. Thank you again for your no fuss, no mess, no hype style-much appreciated!
@Dazza19746
@Dazza19746 8 ай бұрын
Watching this makes my Domino’s worth the price tag even more
@TheBamaDoc
@TheBamaDoc 7 ай бұрын
Same thing I was thinking
@Makeallmensee
@Makeallmensee 5 ай бұрын
That's a lot of setup.
@woodnotestudio
@woodnotestudio 7 ай бұрын
Such a great alternative. Thank you
@frederickwood9116
@frederickwood9116 Ай бұрын
After making almost all (probably all) the important woodworking videos ( this is a prime example) how do you sleep at night and still find more and useful material to make. The lack of doubt about potential hidden aspects, the extra notes for x or y situation. Really good stuff. Thanks as always. Oh I just thought of a small modification. That jig could also be used for the mortise of a traditional mortise and tenon joint. I’m sure there is a “very effective but not the only way” to skin that cat. I’m thinking it involves doing the mortise and then sneaking up on the tenon with the jig as a ready made marking tool. Possibly with a hand saw, or tablesaw, or chisel, or even the router. The assumption (often not correct) being that removing the “floating “ fit from one side of the joint makes it stronger. Any other tips in that space to make a joint stronger or more robust. For the low of confidence trying to have a good go on a garden gate. As an example
@x3dominator28
@x3dominator28 5 ай бұрын
Festool TS55 and Domino, and CT36E are basically the only Festool I’ll own.
@RYwoodview
@RYwoodview 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing us this again, James!
@abigailmcdowell4248
@abigailmcdowell4248 8 ай бұрын
This video really shows why the domino is valuable to people who make money through their woodworking. If you make a couple hundred of these joints eventually the time saved using the domino will have made it totally worth the money. but that doesn't apply to hobbyists
@nicoj9984
@nicoj9984 8 ай бұрын
It depends. I recently got my first Domino at 35 years old and see no reason why I wouldn't use the tool once I'm 65: I doubt that anything better, faster or easier to use will come along anytime soon to replace it and with top-shelf manufacturers like Festool, it's very likely that I will be able to get spare parts 10, 20 or even 30 years down the line as production and logistics for after sales service is already factored into the initial price - something people often disregard when shopping for tools but then wonder why they cant get a replacement parts for their cheap Made in China crap. If you look at it that way, a tool like the Domino that cost me 900€ now, comes down to ~30€ per year over the long run. Considering the time and effort saved compared to something like the method shown in the video, the investment is - in my opinion - well worth it, even for hobbyists like me...
@nasarazam
@nasarazam 8 ай бұрын
Time is important even for hobbyist like plus. Not just that, with jigs, router etc, it is not just the time, but to get accurate results is still difficult. With Domino, everything is so easy.
@jodiepalmer2404
@jodiepalmer2404 8 ай бұрын
So much a router can do and you showing how to make a jig to go and do mortise joints is an added bonus.
@TheLastPharm
@TheLastPharm 7 ай бұрын
I'm a 'home tinkerer' that's been renovating and building cabinets, shelves, tables for about 20 years. I have a crap load of Festool machines, many of which I purchased 2nd hand, including the DF500 Domino. Never had any regrets or issues. That stuff doesn't seem to want to wear out. Must say though, once you've used a Domino, there's no going back!
@socketman
@socketman 8 ай бұрын
This channel never disappoints
@dennystyles4324
@dennystyles4324 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Professor Nubs for another great method that works great and saves money.
@johnnyb95678
@johnnyb95678 8 ай бұрын
What a great idea for the wood workers that are not in production or regularly requiring loose tenons. For that "once in a while hobbiest", this is a great option. Thank you for sharing!
@shortys8br
@shortys8br 4 ай бұрын
Sure yeah, if you aren't using it for a business or your business hasn't found enough jobs to justify the tool. I own one and I'm glad i chose to purchase the domino. There's more uses than just floating tenons with this tool, by the way! But yes, if you are a weekend woodworker or just started a business it may not be an option and that's okay. But it's definitely worth the price.
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque 8 ай бұрын
Wow! I have so much to learn! This really helps and inspires me! Thanks!
@a9ball1
@a9ball1 8 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you. I didn't look back that far. Maybe other folks who missed it will now check it out .
@deanwilliams93
@deanwilliams93 8 ай бұрын
Jigs are Jigs, Tools are Tools. I always make throw away jigs, It's just cheaper. Whether I am making one or two pieces or twenty units. Once I find out the units sells... That jig gets stored with all the templates, plans, pictures and any video for the next selling season. Great video! Shoot, I even make jigs to make high profit planters. Make it once and production run begins. Keeps everything uniform and body parts away from high speed metal cutting devices sheathed in tungsten carbide! With a good jig instead of 10-20 a day hundreds can be made. More profit!
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 7 ай бұрын
Simple, logical, and useful. Thanks for another good one!
@weldabar
@weldabar 8 ай бұрын
Such a simple jig enables one of the most useful joints. IMO this is the joint that all beginning woodworkers should know and use. I like the version that has adjustable slot width, which is not much more complicated.
@ThatGuy-dj3qr
@ThatGuy-dj3qr 24 күн бұрын
Cool idea. Especially if you can't justify spending $1,600.00. This costs $ 0.00 and works great. I am impressed. However, I think that using a dowel jig is much quicker. It may not be quite as strong as a mortise joint, but is sufficient for most situations.
@harveyboulanger2896
@harveyboulanger2896 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Stumpy
@fathogwoodworking
@fathogwoodworking 8 ай бұрын
Another great video James. Thank you for the lesson 👍
@skyehagen5521
@skyehagen5521 8 ай бұрын
Here's a couple of enhancements. First, make a set of jigs for common dimensions when positioning the fence. One for 3/4 in stock, another for 1 1/2" stock, etc. You could also take angles into consideration, and make jigs where the fence is positioned for 1 1/2 stock cut on a 45 degree angle. Second, make the gap the largest you think you will ever use. In the jig, add a mechanism that allows you to vary the length of the gap. You could simply use spacer blocks, or get fancier and use a bolt that can be adjusted. For the bolt idea, drill through holes through the two narrow strips before assembly. Thread one of the holes and insert a long bolt. When assembling the jig, make sure the bolt is facing inward. Then, use a long screwdriver through the other end to adjust the length of the mortise.
@JonathanDuddy-oq6nv
@JonathanDuddy-oq6nv 8 ай бұрын
Ok
@alexboehme6260
@alexboehme6260 8 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for another great perspective and another approach. Thank you so much for all you do. I’m a novice wood worker but I’ve learned so much watching your videos.
@jimrosson6702
@jimrosson6702 8 ай бұрын
Great tips As always James Thanks for sharing
@chrisj2848
@chrisj2848 8 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more about changing the channel when a KZbin'r whips out their flashy domino tool. Great tip for lining up the fence. I was expecting parallel for the fence to be the failure of this option, but I learned something instead and am impressed. Cheers.
@garymiller5937
@garymiller5937 8 ай бұрын
Thanks James. I really like your idea! And so much easier than using a chisel. You are truly a master! 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 8 ай бұрын
What a great idea! Thanks for sharing this.
@emersonassis7154
@emersonassis7154 8 ай бұрын
James one more nice video...before I had Mortise Pal (not avaible anymore)...I did like your mortise jig I add a threaded rod and a T nut at edge and make the slot longer and the threaded rod limited how long I can go...congratulations from Brazil
@tpobrienjr
@tpobrienjr 8 ай бұрын
Good idea and explanation. Thanks
@Nettle314
@Nettle314 7 ай бұрын
Top notch like always! Thank you sir!
@omf2007
@omf2007 8 ай бұрын
Great information! Thank you!
@davidwright9688
@davidwright9688 6 ай бұрын
I like my $30 yard sale biscuit joiner for alignment, and dowels and glue for my joints. Heck of a lot cheaper, and pretty nearly as strong as a Domino thingy. Dowels have been around for several thousand years. Will Dominos last that long? All you need is a drill and a jig you can make for yourself or buy for a few bucks. My plunge base is gathering dust in the cabinet, since my router is all-but permanently mounted in my table, and a new one for my trim router costs $100. Just sayin'.
@TheBlindArcher.
@TheBlindArcher. Ай бұрын
The patent for the jointer expires at the end of 2024. Come January every other manufacturer will have a cheaper version
@terryfogarty1444
@terryfogarty1444 20 күн бұрын
Simply not true.
@TheBlindArcher.
@TheBlindArcher. 20 күн бұрын
@ a simple google will make you delete this comment
@silverfox8801
@silverfox8801 7 ай бұрын
Great job 👏🏻
@tonyn3123
@tonyn3123 8 ай бұрын
Excellent idea! I have seen a router mortising machine before but was as expensive as the Festool domino. I like this idea. One thing to note, is the specs of the jig may have to be changed or remade for different width stock. After a couple of projects, I bet you won't need to make a new jig anymore. Thanks.
@markpowers7823
@markpowers7823 8 ай бұрын
What a great idea! Thanks.
@TheBamaDoc
@TheBamaDoc 7 ай бұрын
I got around using a domino for along time and that’s fine of course. I used one once at a friends shop and I was hooked. The domino makes joining pieces so fast and exact that it’s a real game changer in saving TIME. If you got time to kill there’s no point in the domino but if you are limited on time it’s impossible to beat.
@robertbankhead8661
@robertbankhead8661 7 ай бұрын
Well done James, us domino folk do this also, we also would use a router (probably green) with good chip removal. I like your presentation. Well done! And yes, it’s all about the woodworker, the tools don’t define us, they only help facilitate the process!
@markduggan3451
@markduggan3451 8 ай бұрын
Great information, as always.
@thomaskila3801
@thomaskila3801 8 ай бұрын
Another great video, James! Thanks again!
@Mostviews111
@Mostviews111 4 ай бұрын
Time is money especially if woodworking is a source of income a domino is worth every penny
@willdebiec828
@willdebiec828 7 ай бұрын
Can you cut mortise on an angle? For example can you cut a mortise on a 22.5 degree angle and on a 5 degree angle to join three pieces of wood together?
@martinpook5707
@martinpook5707 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant! I'll bet Festool will love you!
@-joe-674
@-joe-674 8 ай бұрын
James. I agree that your jig works very well for larger projects like the door and even smaller ones using 3/4" material, however it would not work so well on narrow mitered stock such as for picture frames, where small dominos/loose tenons are useful. Of course, the loose tenon joint could be replaced with splined joints for the frames, however splines might not be acceptable for the appearance of the finished frame. Woodworking is always better when one has alternatives to consider in design and construction, thank you for sharing.
@rossMIE
@rossMIE 8 ай бұрын
Is this a copy of Peter Millards jig? @10MinuteWorkshop
@normanbott
@normanbott 8 ай бұрын
When I first saw Festool products and saw the prices, I was appalled. Then I saw the design effort and engineering quality that goes into them. It's all about productivity with accuracy. If I was earning my living from woodworking instead of being a hobbyist, I'd want Festool.
@cuebj
@cuebj 8 ай бұрын
And the genuine warranty... that's extremely important if your income depends on completing a job and you lost or damaged your gear
@emtinfl
@emtinfl 8 ай бұрын
Right tool for the right job, right? I use both methods depending on the project, as I'm sure you do, as well. I like the simplicity of the jig you make.
@drsnooz8112
@drsnooz8112 8 ай бұрын
Genius. Thank you!
@Timber2Toothpicks
@Timber2Toothpicks 8 ай бұрын
Your short review on the new 3M Sanding Disk. This is an incredible leap forward in sandpaper technology. My good pal and neighbor was a sales rep for 3M. He was KING on body shop abrasives. I gave him two disks to try out. Dave could not believe it. Dave is going to call his old contacts at 3M. I hope I can gain some insight for you on what & how. Soon hopefully. TS Portland
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 8 ай бұрын
Well that certainly makes loose tenon joinery less expensive than the Festool route. Although I wouldn't say it is exactly free. You need a router and router bit. Although I expect most shops do have those. I really like your method of aligning the jig's fence. And apparently the only critical measurement is the thickness of the tenon. You indicate that length and width can vary without compromising the joint. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 8 ай бұрын
I said "if you own a router" it's essentially free. I think anyone who is at a level where they are using mortise and tenon joinery has at least a router and a straight bit in their shop.
@dian3145
@dian3145 8 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation and jig!
@craftyguyinthewoods
@craftyguyinthewoods 8 ай бұрын
Great vid and tips James. If you own a woodworking CNC, it is super easy to whip up quick, custom jigs like this, any length and width 🙂
@reloadNshoot
@reloadNshoot 8 ай бұрын
One could skip making the jig and just cut mortises on the CNC.😂
@andypire6278
@andypire6278 7 ай бұрын
Would the jig be strong enough if it was built with the 3or4 inch piece of plywood glued to the spacer strips then glued to a piece of plywood a little thinner than the offset you wanted (from the face of the work piece to the closest edge of the mortise), glue the fence on and finally add another piece of plywood to provide support to the router?
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 8 ай бұрын
Great job 👍
@martinneff4675
@martinneff4675 8 ай бұрын
As always, good info thank you.
@woodworking4459
@woodworking4459 7 ай бұрын
Great! The video is amazing and has caught my interest. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@alandust2188
@alandust2188 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the money saving tip.
@warrensmith2902
@warrensmith2902 8 ай бұрын
Yeah Still love my PC890 router. FYI, you can make a long one jig with several opening for doing carouses.
@chipperkeithmgb
@chipperkeithmgb 8 ай бұрын
So do I got two from oxford England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@PlanetMojo
@PlanetMojo 8 ай бұрын
That's pretty much the exact jig I have been using for some of my mortise & tenon joints for years. Nice to see a porter Cable router. They were #1 for so many years, and now they are hard to find, and it seems like they may be going out of business? Most of the links I follow go to discontinued products 😐
@jarasblunt
@jarasblunt 7 ай бұрын
Stumpy, you’re the man 💪
@JoeC92
@JoeC92 8 ай бұрын
As someone who's used methods like this for years and some of the stuff the wood whisper showed in a video as well. There's places where the domino certainly still outshines. Mainly on mitres and small pieces. And obviously time wise is way faster. But with that price I can't justify having both domino. So I own the smaller one since I use it more. If on the off chance I need something bigger I use the router jig options. It was hard to justify buying when I did buy it years ago. But I never regretted it. I was happy to sell my track saw. Not that I don't love them. But you pay a premium for the festool and the only difference using my Bosch one instead is I don't have the festool cord and it was nearly half the price when I got it on sale. And since the only other festool items I have is a Sander and the domino, I don't care for the cord. It's not that big of a deal to me. Plus I always considered cutting one cord to put a twist lock on it. Since I did that with every other tool I have. They all have a twist lock camlok connector on them that I can go from tool to tool.
@joshua_lee732
@joshua_lee732 8 ай бұрын
I just use dowels. They've never not been able to do the job.
@davidzindler5858
@davidzindler5858 8 ай бұрын
I see all these debate videos about biscuits and festool and all this and that and can't help but wonder what the problem with dowels is lol. Seems like people overthink this.
@qwerty112311
@qwerty112311 8 ай бұрын
Festool is way quicker. I don’t have one, I won’t get one, but the economies of scale are there for a commercial setting.
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 8 ай бұрын
Dowels (which are a type of loose tenon) work fine, but they are slower than Domino cut joinery and more difficult to align than a rectangular loose tenon. Loose tenons as seen in this video can be placed in elongated slots, allowing room for adjustment as complex assemblies are put together.
@sparkyarch
@sparkyarch 8 ай бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks for the video.
@AndreasSchlitzkus
@AndreasSchlitzkus 8 ай бұрын
@@davidzindler5858 As long as you haven`t a stationary doweling machine, its the accuracy. Maybe you don`t need that 10ths of a millimeter, than its a great thing, using dowels. And as said by others: they are way slower.
@a9ball1
@a9ball1 8 ай бұрын
One thing that nobody points out is the bushing for the router. I believe most newbies will have no problem getting the bit or making the jig but get lost on the bushings. Like how to get them. Do they work with 'my' router. Do I need to buy a different router. Can I get a bushing for my trim router. And so on. Maybe do a video on router bushings and accessories?
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 8 ай бұрын
I have: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5urZGaLjrR7f5I
@smacfe
@smacfe 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! It's not so much the Festool machine that turns people off, it is the fact that this is realistically a tool only for professionals who make their living in woodworking. If you are not a professional, it is highly unlikely you are going to spend that much on a rarely used tool, and if you are a professional, you don't need some dimbulb KZbinr droning on about how great it is. Thus nobody is interested. What is needed is more videos like this which demonstrate how you can get the same results as a pro without the expense.
@5280Woodworking
@5280Woodworking 8 ай бұрын
It depends on how much you value your time. The Domino is an amazing machine that does one this VERY well and VERY fast. I live life with as few regrets as possible. I don’t regret my Domino purchase.
@krissk77
@krissk77 8 ай бұрын
Then again in the market we have similar tools at a 10th of the price...wel made.
@gregbearman3520
@gregbearman3520 7 ай бұрын
All of the domino “killers” require a whole bunch of clamping(sometimes on yet another jig) lining up fiducial marks, drilling or routing then doing it again for EACH joint. The domino doesn’t just make holes, it puts them in the right place. I am a hobbyist but I use it on almost every project. Why would you not buy a tool you will use for 20 plus years
@mburke1211
@mburke1211 8 ай бұрын
Great jig! With the new stubble, you're channeling your best Andy Dufresne look from Shawshank Redemption.😊
@matthewryan9323
@matthewryan9323 8 ай бұрын
He's gonna have to change the channel name to "Stubbly Nubs" ;p
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 7 ай бұрын
thanks
@travisg1759
@travisg1759 8 ай бұрын
ok, I tried the cubitron and I must admit it lasts longer and doesn't gum up. I think it's bewitched, it's so good.
@mbarton98
@mbarton98 8 ай бұрын
What a great idea.
@keith7630
@keith7630 8 ай бұрын
It’s a nice alternative, but, you’ll have to pry my Domino from my cold dead hands.
@TheDreadhead65
@TheDreadhead65 8 ай бұрын
Same 👍👍
@grantdavies6081
@grantdavies6081 8 ай бұрын
@@TheDreadhead65 same for me.. its a bit like saying you can do framing with a hammer and nails, sure you can, but I'd rather use a nail gun :). Domino is faster for loose tenons, plus my router tries to kill me on a regular basis :)
@Mike-dn4ju
@Mike-dn4ju 8 ай бұрын
You’ll have to pry both domino machines from my cold dead hands. Such a great tool, worth every penny.(paid full retail on both)
@KWW0321
@KWW0321 7 ай бұрын
Same here!
@terryfogarty1444
@terryfogarty1444 20 күн бұрын
Same here.
@murphymmc
@murphymmc 8 ай бұрын
Festool is a bit like Snap-On, they make "some" very good tools at a very premium price. They also make a bunch of slightly better than middle of the road tools at a very premium price. Even marginal research can illuminate those tools that will do the same task at the same rate of production at far lower dollar outlay. It's worth the hunt. The branded marketing is there for a reason, to get you to buy into the sales pitch. Once in a while the sales pitch is accurate.
@Mike-dn4ju
@Mike-dn4ju 8 ай бұрын
Not even close to comparable imho. Festool pays good wages and benefits, and also doesn’t use cheap foreign labor. Snap on rebrands all kinds of china made tools and quadruples the price. Finding snap on rebrands from the OEM is a lot of fun. Snap On is a marketing and finance company that uses hand tools as its widget, and uses new colors to sell them like hand bags. No real innovation, just new colored handles. Festool is a tool company(100 years next year) Spending my hard earned money on Snap On didn’t make me want to buy more, Festool on the other hand did as no brand manages dust collection so well, and that is priceless in my trade. Sorry for the rant, Happy Friday! 😂 #strapontools #bendoverthetruckishere
@anthonyreddin891
@anthonyreddin891 8 ай бұрын
A Festool tool truck driving around like Snap-On would be awesome! Just take my money.
@amorgan5844
@amorgan5844 8 ай бұрын
My favorite part is, he is using one of the more affordable routers to do a job just as clean as one of the most expensive tools does. Well played sir!
@paulhopkins1905
@paulhopkins1905 8 ай бұрын
Porter Cable routers are the gold standard, some of the best ever made
@mm-nyc
@mm-nyc 8 ай бұрын
It's the router bit, not so much the router.
@SethAbercromby
@SethAbercromby 8 ай бұрын
Often the price you pay for a tool that's made for a very specialized task is the simple conveneince of doing that singular task slightly faster and more efficiently. In a private workshop it rarely matters how long it actually takes you to do things, but on a production floor where inventory needs to move fast and at volumes, saving a few minutes on simple tasks each day saves thousands of dollars in the long run.
@paulhopkins1905
@paulhopkins1905 8 ай бұрын
@@SethAbercromby In a full production shop machines will be dedicated to single parts, as well as cnc.
@richpeggyfranks490
@richpeggyfranks490 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand. The Porter Cable router in the video is one of the best, most sought-after routers ever. I still recall being shocked that our "friends" at Stanley B & D decided to stop making the world's most popular router.
@thomasbyrne7770
@thomasbyrne7770 8 ай бұрын
Wow, Thanks great presentation and technique. Tom Byrne
@owenanstey436
@owenanstey436 8 ай бұрын
Nice work !
@pattyofurniture100
@pattyofurniture100 8 ай бұрын
Ok now THIS just might be my favorite jig vid
@chrismoody1342
@chrismoody1342 8 ай бұрын
For now I’ll continue to use my dedicated morticer and tenon fence jig.
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