Stupid Gun Myths - Episode 8: "This was my Grandpa's Army Gun he Brought Back From the War."

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[@baronofhell2277]

If its actually their gun they brought back, its stolen, 100% they smuggled that shit home with their buddys. That they can just take it home is so false on all levels.

[@danielmattera4298]

I do know a few guys who bought the ones they did have. But they got them during the time the M14 was coming in, not WW2 guys, these were like in the early 60s Edit: One of those guys was on a shooting team.. so his situation is different than most

[@dannyo3317]

Stolen, or lost, then required to be paid for by the military, is not the "bought" that a lot of guys claim. It isn't just semantics...

[@cheap4x434]

My great grandfather brought am m1 " I cant remember if it was a carbine or Garand" he was not issued it and picked it up from a dead soldier and stuck it in the bottom of his duffle bag.

[@gravygraves5112]

@@dannyo3317 I have the bill of sale from the quarter master for the M1911A1 my grandpa bought right after the war ended. It was a different time.

[@pbgd3]

@@cheap4x434 correct - theft. Many of the vets I knew as a kid had a variety of foreign guns, particularly the engineers as they were busy demoing at the end of the war and had access to haul stuff around. But that's not their issue rifle

[@Spazzycat14]

"My grandpa used this in world war 2." "Oh thats cool" *holds up K98k* "Uh oh"

[@Nick-ys4py]

True in my case

[@teodorogerald]

ConcealCarryProtect Oof XD

[@patriot17764th]

lol not good

[@platosnephew1105]

I laughed out loud XD

[@pelinalwhitestrake8195]

@Daniel S.P. mine was he was in the 2nd SS Panzer Division

[@gianlucamalvasi7007]

There is a much higher chance that "the M1 their grandpa used" ended up in south-korea or some other proxy state

[@teodorogerald]

gianluca malvasi Yep.......mostly South Korea

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

Wasn't there a guy that tracked down the serial number of the same gun his grandpa was issued and had the full history, carried it through all of ww2 and then it was refurbished and issued in korea to someone else

[@gianlucamalvasi7007]

@@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming i think that refurbished guns get new serial number for new component or other stamps of some sort

[@RandyRandersonthefamous]

so you gotta go to the middle east for real WW2 guns

[@jerrell1169]

Johnston Steiner There’s a few in Vietnam as well but they try their damndest at the museum there to not talk about the ARVN

[@TheBiggestIron]

People do this with zippos too. This was my grandfather's Vietnam zippo. Looked at the bottom, it's an 80s era zippo. I guess I forgot about Vietnam war 2

[@mayhem9052]

The Biggest Iron might have been his pops zippo, just not a nam zippo

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Ah yes Vietnam war 2, not a lot of people care know about that war lol

[@Gottaculat]

Zippos weren't issued, they were purchased by troops. My dad still has his, and he said while he did carry it in Vietnam, he actually bought it from one of the Army's stores during his leave in Hong Kong. He said the military had a catalogue of items, and you could buy them. Usually little luxury items, or creature comforts typically branded with a star and "US ARMY" somewhere on it. Items you the soldier purchased could be sent home if it's an item not allowed on the bases, or kept on your person if it's not a prohibited item. So yeah, something like a Zippo is totally legit an item they could bring home. Now, if it's stamped with a year that came after the Vietnam War, then yeah, probably bullshit.

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

I mean the Vietnam War was the Vietnam War 2. Second Indochina War. Other than that the war in Rambo 2 was the Laos Insurgency which started in 1975 and there was definitely some small scale fighting in the 80s...so maybe?

[@RandyRandersonthefamous]

reminds me of the dick show clip on when wars happened kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIPFemWIfLuFbKM

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

This is weird, because in the balkans basically every 3rd household has at least one illegal firearm, be it a Tokarev, AK, PPSH, M48, etc. Most of those were taken and kept from around 1993-1995 because the guys supplying the military stopped giving a shit and didn't even mark down how many guns were issued, let alone serial numbers and such, hence a large number of fighters "forgot" to turn in their gun.

[@MikeB128]

That's the Balkans, this video's about the U.S. The Balkans are totally different when it comes to how the military is run and the accountability.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

@Zombie Well I remember last year someone close to me was firing tracers from an AK at nee years eve, I wasn't there unfortunately.

[@Pajdas610]

@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Mi Balkanci smo zajebani što očekuješ?

[@JonDoe-ef4tz]

Sounds like the balkans. My grandpa just took his tokerev home with him after ww2. He wasn't supposed to but he did it anyway. My uncle said he would shoot foxes with it.

[@losos1]

My grandma has an ak wrapped in plastic foil in a wooden box buried in her front yard

[@JonDoe-ef4tz]

Hippity hoppity. Your service rifle is uncle sam's property.

[@lambsauce5312]

Evil

[@earlycuyler2295]

Glamour or glory; you should never pay for the "story".

[@frankdamsy9715]

Funny story, I actually was perpetrator of this myth as a child. My parents (and me technically) are Bosnian immigrants and my dad served in the Yugoslav army and was issued an M70. Well later after he got his citizenship he bought one of the early EAA PAPs with the thumb hole stock and he showed it to me and told me that "this is what I carried in the army". Well me being a dumb little shit though that he had somehow got his AK from somewhere in the former Yugoslavia and had it sent back to the US. Eventually I showed some friends in junior high the rifle (my dad is a responsible adult swear) and then they called me out on my bullshit. They first showed me the EAA import marks and I said he probably had to get it marked to get it brought into the US. They finally showed me that it said made in Serbia on it, which convinced me as Serbia didn't exist when my dad served. I told my dad about it, and he first off chewed me out for messing with his gun, then he told me that no it's not the exact same gun he used, it's just the same kind of gun he used (which is technically not true but a PAP and an M70 are close enough)

[@pietrayday9915]

Thank you for the reality-check! :) I have a feeling that most "grandpa's army gun" stories have a very similar origin - but few of the people telling those stories have the self-awareness and honesty to do the research and admit their mistakes.

[@MaceGaming53]

1:47 "it's not yours, the govt paid for it" well actually 😂

[@MikeB128]

Yeah, well, another rant. You technically didn't pay for Cletus's M1 garand because you weren't alive to pay taxes then...

[@MaceGaming53]

@@MikeB128 hahah oh yeah you're not wrong, I was just joking around lol.

[@kimisdaman]

Now, the government is selling the M1911A1 pistols that taxpayers bought for $25, back to taxpayers for $1000. They should be issued to anyone with a valid social security number.

[@ghost0377]

Powerfactorguy I .... no just no

[@thaddeuskobylarz8519]

cLeTuS

[@erwinschmied]

Dumb gun myth: Surplus guns are cheap.

[@DeskJet1]

@@mann8557 had an old guy trying to sell a Russian SKS at pawnshop for $800 on consignment. It sat on the shelf for over a year I kid you not. Eventually someone got it for $500 which is still crazy

[@manyhammers5944]

$1200 for a .30-'06 03-A3 ,wtf.

[@jason127x99]

HPDeskJet not really! I've seen them go for 700.

[@The-Opium-Den]

@@jason127x99 Here in Canada we can still buy cheap surplus guns. Plenty of SKS rifles sell for well below $300 Canadian. The problem for Americans is that the US government has imposed import bans on Russian and Chinese surplus guns. It makes them so much more expensive than they should be.

[@MikeB128]

@@The-Opium-Den In canada, you can get two models of rifles that are more expensive here because of the import bans....Try getting even 1/8 of the surplus rifles that are available in the U.S.....You can't in Canada. I'd rather have access to semi-auto surplus rifles and magazines over 5 rounds than be able to buy a cheap SKS or SVT40..

[@miguelpatino3856]

I always thought it was weird how so many peoples' grandpas were able to bring their service weapons home with them from WW2, but my Dad always told me he was strictly forbidden from taking his m14 back with him from Vietnam

[@jimmyginseng]

My uncle once had a old guy come into his shooting range/store. The old timer asked my uncle if he wanted to see his piece of stolen governemt property. He then pulled out a 1911 he said he carried in ww2. Well my uncle had a conversation with the guy in an attempt to buy it. Well the guy left with his gun and my uncle was kinda bummed because he wanted it. Well a few months later a kid came in and asked my uncle if he was interested in a 1911 and a few other guns. Sure enough, the old guy died and his son came in and sold my uncle the 1911 he wanted. Crazy

[@nicholasstilley2370]

@@troyweatherford2428 imagine the terror I felt when it turned out that a relative of one of my roommates had a shitload of machine guns and then his family sold them all off very illegally. Worst part is that some of them might have been legal and they just needed to look for the paperwork, at least he got a free m1 and a 1903, but an FN D and Hotchkiss M1922 would have been better

[@jimmyginseng]

@@troyweatherford2428 from my understanding, i guess the son was a pretty well known lowlife. He wanted the money for drugs more then the guns and my uncle kinda took the gun as a personal responsability and took care of it and made sure it never got into the wrong hands. He also owns an original colt python, a s&w model 10 that my great grandfather used as a jailer/sherriff's deputy and a plethera of others. I too question how someone could he so careless with such a great piece of history.

[@jimmyginseng]

@@GiuseppeSimonetti his son will more then likely have it left to him. But i rest easy knowing its in good hands when it does go to him

[@jimmyginseng]

@Hoàng Nguyên i wouldnt sell it or put it in a museum. Its far to priceless to let go. It was a lifesaver and a great piece of history.

[@awalker1829]

I happen to have what I suspect was my grandfather’s M1911A1 service pistol that he carried during his time in the Navy during WWII. He was a commissioned officer in the United States Naval Reserve. Interestingly enough, his pistol was a civilian Government Model made in 1927. As a historian, I happen to recall that there was initially a great shortage of M1911/M1911A1s that the War Department put out an appeal to civilian gun owners to sell their M1911s back to the government. As he was a reservist, they would have been lower priority for issuance and its possible that they were provided with an allowance to buy a 1911 from an approved vendor or were authorized to obtain a M1911 from an approved vendor with their own funds. Being that he was a commissioned officer, he probably would have had the funds to purchase his own sidearm. My father gave it to me under the condition that I am not to sell it, and I never will.

[@notlogical4016]

My grandpa didn’t bring back his gun, he brought back the Germans gun, and my other grandpa brought back the Japanese gun

[@bricktheomniscient2118]

NotLogical my great grandpa brought home a pin from a nazi the pin was a picture of the nazi

[@jseden]

Mine too.. I inherited a nambu pistol and type 99 rifle. Along with the Korea era garand he purchased later

[@TreeWizard648]

You should do a video on the myth that old guns will just "blow up". I have fired lots of old guns, including my flintlock pistol that may be around 300 years old, my musket made in 1829, my trapdoor Springfield's (one .50-70 and one .45-70), my Lebels, my Krag Jorgensen, etc. In my experience, you shouldn't have a problem as long as you are putting reasonable loads through them and the gun isn't in too bad of condition (I have fired some pretty heavily pitted guns without any problems after checking the wall thickness).

[@MikeB128]

Yeah I'll get there.

[@philr3510]

And the low serial number 1903s, too.

[@broccodoggo8363]

I think the big issue is people using smokeless or not, or if they use the cartridge not specified to be used because it says .308

[@mayhem9052]

Phillip Ruggles what’s wrong with those?

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

On an unrelated note love your username and profile pic

[@Fulcrum.Actual]

Closest I've heard to this is my great granddad DID bring a Nazi luger an dagger home an my friends relative who will remain nameless smuggled an AK back from desert storm

[@megaconda07]

It happens alot. The mail system is super relaxed for the military even now a days. So I dont doubt it happened back in the day.

[@Deak-tj4ml]

The luger story is kind of possible but the AK story is absurd, why would he smuggle AK back home anyways. Oh yeah i will smuggle this unregulated fucking AK this is a great idea that would take around 4 years to complete

[@Geister7]

@@MikeB128 I remember being told that some guy in WW2 mailed back an entire Willy's jeep piece by piece during the course of the war, though I suspect that would be extremely impossible to do

[@Flemdragon]

@@woopass2010 no fucking way for the ak.

[@MikeB128]

@@ViktoriousDead Okay, how many modern firearms did you get through customs on your way back?

[@the.gaijin.wanderer]

I remember in the documentary America The Story of Us they talked about how in the Civil War some Union troops would buy lever action rifles and use that in battle instead of their muskets but I don't know how true it is

[@MikeB128]

Most soldiers couldn't afford something that expensive, and how would they stay flush with ammo? Maybe it happened, but it just logistically doesn't make sense. Long term.

[@the.gaijin.wanderer]

@@MikeB128 that makes sense And I bet that documentary is more meant for entertainment than actual facts to

[@wobbenbuffet3286]

It was generals buying them for their companies or something like that, there were a few cases of this happening but most importantly the "Lightning Brigade", the name of the general gets hazy because my research paper on this was a while ago, but they would basically be dragoons and would shoot on horseback and dismount.

[@connorwinter9257]

There were a few documented cases of it, but more often what would happen is a unit that was issued repeating rifles would give their troops the option to buy them upon end of enlistment/retiring.

[@dwightdhansen]

True but usually bought by the state the unit was from.

[@TommygunNG]

"This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is the one my grandpa carried! I swear!"

[@dwightdhansen]

US GI extremely unlikely. Enemy weapons from WW2 is a possibility. My Type 99 Arisaka is one of those. Very few from any more recent conflict. In either case provenance is necessary to prove the assertion.

[@Ulfstigandr]

Dwight Hansen the NFA and Hughes amendment made bringing home war trophies all but impossible. Its a shame really, as theres thousands of rifles gettin blown apart regularly that could otherwise have been brought home and enjoyed responsibly.

[@Bombskwad92]

My grandpa has an Arisaka that still has the lotus on it

[@501ststormtrooper9]

Yeah, Lugers were collected as War Trophies by the Americans and Brits.

[@shitboxoffroad]

@@HaloFTW55 I've got one to with the chrysanthemum, Nagoya arsenal from Grandpa.

[@teddygrizz]

A prevalent issue is trying to explain to civilians how rifles are issued out in the military. For some reason civilians think you get a rifle in bootcamp and you carry it around until you get out. How it works is every unit has an armory/weapons locker, and you check a rifle out, kind of like a gun library. You only ever check out a rifle when they tell you you can, like for ranges or deployments.

[@shawnr771]

And you dont see ammo until you are at the range.

[@teddygrizz]

I've been in a base lockdown because a single machine gun barrel for a .50 cal went missing. No one could leave base, and tens of thousands of people lived on base.

[@shawnr771]

They locked down our battalion for a missing M16 A1 bolt and bolt carrier.

[@romeosgenericchannel3971]

I served in the army when i was younger, never deployed, but i usually dont tell people i meet this unless i know them pretty well, anyways i got a ride from a guy i worked with to the store on break, he wasnt a good friend of mine just a dude i knew, i was telling him how i had just gotten another AK, we discussed firearms for a second and then this guy tells me , " oh sweet aks are dope but guess what i got? An m16 my cousin brought home from the navy! It even has burst switch and everything!". I died a little inside and i waited until we got back from the store and i looked to him and said " hey man, do me a favor and dont lie straight to my fucking face like im some idiot i served in the army and once a dude in my unit momentarily lost his NVGs , THEY SHUT THE BASE DOWN for 2 hours! Until we found it in a Connex in the motorpool. if they ever lost a WEAPON they would shut the whole base down and probly any surounding fucking towns! Sensitive items are no joke and they are accounted for very SERIOUSLY. should have seen the look on his face. he apolagised and thanked me for my service needless to say, he never spoke to me again lol

[@anondimwit]

sure we were military

[@robotbjorn4952]

And then everyone started clapping.

[@cromulation]

And then everyone started clapping

[@keanukage644]

guys, Was they standing or sitting when they was clapping, this is important information to know

[@shawnr771]

This story was used as a training scenario for Physical Security class at Unit Armorers school The unit in question lost 2 M16s during a 44 day training exercise at Yakima Firing Center. The units did not conduct proper daily accountability checks. It was unknown at which point during the exercise that the weapons were lost. The unit spent an additional 88 days retracing their movements searching for the weapons. They were not found.

[@solowingsjet]

"How soldiers returned their weapons in WW2" U.S: please return your fire arms. Russia: Return the potatoes you used in training!

[@MarkiusFox]

Two numbers I remember by heart, likely for the rest of my life. My SSN, and my weapons serial number.

[@Flemdragon]

Bullshit..... another myth. No way you only had one weapon the whole time.... unless you remember every single one.

[@MikeB128]

@@Flemdragon Well, some of the older guys who were only in for a year or so may have only had one. I went through 6 and distinctly remember two: My M4 in my unit, and my M240B.

[@shawnr771]

@@MikeB128 The only one I remember was from a .45, I was assigned while in Korea in the late 80's. The Beretta had not made it to us yet. The pistol was stamped M1911 with A1 MOD in larger type and not uniform. The pistol's SN was 005911.

[@yorboyroyboy9829]

I remeber our whole division spending 5 days scouring the desert of Ft Irwin..N T C ..in 96 ..because a lieutenant somehow lost his berrata..If they smuggled weapons back in the day..it def was there issued weapon..but a high chance of one they came across..Goodone..Keep em comin..👊😎

[@yorboyroyboy9829]

*Wasnt

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

I've heard of an officer having his magazines buried by his squad on exercise because they didn't like him, court marshal offence. I was told by one of the guys that buried them.

[@yorboyroyboy9829]

@@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming I def can see that happening..😂👍 #glorydays

[@shawnr771]

@@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming Why didnt they bury the officer?

[@brunoratto253]

I happen to know two of those unique exceptions: The grandfather of a friend served in ww2. He was convinced his m1 garand was special or somthing, it was his lucky gun. When he had to turn over his rifle, he made an arrangement with the officer in charge of the armory: this guy bribed the officer with 20 times! the value of an m1 at the time just to take home his "lucky gun". No idea how he got the money, but soldiers at war of all nations have a habit of "collecting" stuff they "find"... On a more legitimate note, this older guy I met at a gun store had memorized the serial number of his gun from cleaning it regularly when he served in Korea. He got asigned an m1 carabine, and got very fond of it. At the end of the war he gave it up as he was supposed to, but he never forgot it. Years later, when they got surplused to the civilian market, this guy almost ran to the army registries to see if he could track down his gun. By pure luck, he found it... on a gun sale in Florida. He was in Oregon. Dude traveled across the country to get his gun back. And he did. Feel free to not believe me. I don't fully believe the old guys that told me their stories, but I found them interesting. I hope you find them interesting too.

[@MikeB128]

The first one, meh, idk, but the second one I fully believe as I said in the video.

[@OorahN01]

“There’s no way you walking home with your M4”. Someone should tell 3/6 that.

[@MikeB128]

Well, if they own a select fire M4 and get caught, that's a hefty amount of prison time...

[@Dsdcain]

You hit the nail on the head so to speak. Probably a lot of misremembered stories about this is the *same kind of gun* my grandfather carried during the war. People heard that 40 or 50 years ago when they were kids and the story grew out of that. As a new subscriber I'm finding this channel to be pretty good. I mean even if you're broadcasting "From mommy's basement". That line cracked me up probably more than it should have the first couple times I heard it, but hey I have a dad joke level sense of humor at this stage of my life. Great channel. *:-)*

[@BigWillyG1000]

And how many guys used more than one rifle during the war? They would think in terms of type not specific example.

[@alexeywulph7389]

The greatest laugh that I ever got from such a Myth, is that someonesaid they had a WW2 Nazi VZ61 with SS runes. My sides did hurt alot after that.

[@MikeB128]

Omg is that the same as a Vz6555.2 3/4?

[@SSD_Penumbra]

@Ivan The evil SS runes? Was it apart of the paranormal nazis from Wolfenstein?

[@tac6557]

I dont know if this is true, but I've been told the story of "thats your grampa's .45" Apparently he toook in a radio when he was drafted, and when he did his 6 months, he said he stripped his .45 and basically wrapped up in the radio, took a fellow (he was a Tank Commander) dead's 45 and turned that in. He said he lost his when he had to abandon his vehicle, and pick up the fellow soldiers to continue fighting. There was also some talk about him getting some enemy combatants bolt gun but he had an argument over it, and tossed it in the yalu river. The firearm had the "property of US Gov" stamp on it, but I always had speculations. What do you think? He's dead and gone so all my family have left of them is a some medals, and this apparently smuggled 45. I honestly have a hard time believing it as he never spoke of Korea, but hell, I guess anythings possible.

[@MikeB128]

Yeah again, trying to find the exception in a myth is exactly what makes these things keep going. As I said in the video, yes, it happened, but not on the scale that everyone thinks. It's theft and stealing if you kept any shit that was supposed to be turned in. People always get around this, but this myth is that EVERYONE brought back their weapon they used.

[@tac6557]

@@MikeB128 Ahh gotcha

[@sander7165]

Some communist Chinese may have used US weapons that were captured from the nationalist Chinese who were supplied by the allies during WW2.

[@CertifiedSunset]

my non-biological grandfather (he has since passed away due to lung cancer) carried his Stoner 63 in Vietnam. When I was a kid I asked him why he didn't still have it, he had told me that he had to give it back. Ever since then I had called out my friend's bullshit growing up when they had claimed that their grandparents got to keep their service rifles.

[@oliverallen5324]

The government doesn’t own anything you didn’t pay for. Having said that, the government loses things all the time. There are 3(?) nukes missing right now. Anyhow, I enjoyed the video.

[@DYLANJJK94]

America lost at least 15 nukes by 1960...... and we were never told the Russian lost count of the cold war..... scary stuff or they sold them illegally...

[@jbraavo24]

My granddaddy fought hitler and the natzees in ww1. He was a special forces admin clerk green paraberet seal raider and I own the exact BAR he used to kill Kaiser tojo. Some guy told me it was a Browning auto 5 but that's the same as a BAR!

[@franciszeklatinik889]

That shows how many of these old timers aren't really as smart as they think they are.

[@connorwinter9257]

I feel so sad bc my grandfather was returning on a transport with two captured K98K's (smuggled) and a handful of other memorabilia, his whole unit all had something and they were given the heads up that their transport was going to be checked for smuggled stuff so it all went over the side into the atlantic ocean. They were never checked. Two K98K's wasted.

[@fuckinantipope5511]

Yes I understand that they weren't as valuble back than and all but: what the hell was wrong with them just throwing out good guns? And than such awesome pieces. I bet there was a P08 between these guns and that is unforgivable (Luger/toggle lock Fan here)

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Heard the exact same story from my boss at work, his father in law had 4 K98s and they were told to toss them before they get back, he tossed 2, and meticulously broke the other 2 down and hid everything in all of his gear, not sure if that’s the whole truth because my boss said the guy was a bit of a story teller however it’s highly likely that he actually attempted it

[@hobofactory]

For enemy guns, I thought there was a fully legal means to take them as souvenirs at the time, so why smuggle them in the first place? These days maybe that’s less of an option but I thought during WW2 it was common. The gun you were issued may be your government’s property but an enemy government’s gun was pretty much fair game.

[@connorwinter9257]

@@hobofactory generally it was totally cool and ignored, but sometimes the odd inspection was done at the whim of a unit commander or some such.

[@shawnr771]

@@hobofactory You had to get permission for it to be legal. Also War Trophies are actually frowned upon. Not saying people dont get em just downplayed as of late.

[@overlordvera4014]

:is reading comments listening to guy in background: :hears plumbus: hold up..

[@octaviusnorvelantis8934]

Overlord Vera SAME SAME

[@Bramon83]

Samzies

[@TheodoreRoosevelt3]

So my great grandfather actually worked at an armory in ww2 and he was able to bring his rifle home by actually almost ruining it by destroying the bolt face and firing pin (probably more idk) and it almost wouldn't fire anymore so they said send it with the other guns to get recycled so on his way to a plant he dropped it off with his buddy and boom stole his m1 carbine from the govt.

[@propdoctor21564]

Great video.... it's amazing the number of people out there that either don't know what they're talking about but truly believe it or the amount of scammers that are out there that think they are talking to someone who doesn't know anything about history..

[@MikeB128]

Correct.

[@fizzlethebat6271]

Makes a lot of sense why my grandfather (a licensed federal arms dealer) was so excited to find a 1911 marked as us Gov't property. So as you said they are out there though excedingly rare.

[@Itzbozo]

Well I have an M-1 carbine from my grandpa from WW2. He was a supply officer and I’m not sure if the rifle was his or from supply but the serial numbers are filed off (probably because he didn’t want it to be traced) and I got it just recently from my aunt. She said he had it for as long as she can remember and then she had it for a while. Now it’s mine and it’s in perfect condition. I believe he took it from supply because the barrel is like brand new and it looks almost unused.

[@h.smitty105]

I want chocolate milk

[@Spazzycat14]

Same.

[@gregnadd5017]

Me too

[@goreobsessed2308]

Hunter Lane Smith now I do to

[@TheCarDemotic]

One sec, I’m gonna go get some.

[@arieheath7773]

I mean, yeah, I could go for some chocolate milk right now.

[@firebat724]

This could be true if it was the civil war period where the U.S army allowed people to buy guns because they had way to many of them lol but ww2 not so much.

[@BigWillyG1000]

I'm sure lots of Confederates just walked home with stuff. Especially those who didn't have formal surrender ceremonies. Also in Every war until 'Nam lots of guys acquired an example of what they used because they were cheap surplus. That is probably where a lot of the myth comes from. Guy talks about the gun he used in the war when he means the type and grandkid thinks he means this specific gun.

[@brandondavis8005]

I have a story like this going back even further. My great aunt and uncle on my mother's side had a single shot trapdoor Springfield mounted above the mantle in the living room for as long as I can recall. It was in firing condition up to some point last century, 50s to 70s maybe, very well maintained. One time we were all over there, dad had caught eyeing the rifle and he picks it up off the hooks. Post Civil War.

[@junkie_cosmonaut9622]

My great grandfather managed to(don't ask me how cuz my dad hadn't even been born) track down his rifle. When he died my grandma got his stuff and gave all his military related things to me. I've never shot it but I keep it mounted on my wall next to his uniform.

[@junkie_cosmonaut9622]

I edited cuz I accidentally left out a word.

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

How do you know it was his?

[@Apopolopis]

@@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming im going to guess serial numbers

[@HeIsAnAli]

@@junkie_cosmonaut9622 Eric Arthur Blair once said that "the rifle hanging on the wall of a laborer's apartment (not sure of the exact words, but the gist should be there) is a symbol of democracy; it is our job to ensure it stays there." Eric is better known by his pen name: George Orwell.

[@aluxtaiwan2691]

Some buddy will be like: My dad fly this A10 during desert storm. And I keep it in my garage even since.

[@shawnr771]

This is link to a story from the 1980s www.nytimes.com/1990/11/19/us/2-soldiers-and-2-civilians-arrested-in-theft-of-huge-weapons-cache.html

[@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus]

I used to hear this regularly when I was in the trade : “Grandads rifle , he used it in the war , you know! “ Government’s don’t give away rifles in general. Or anything else. Or : “ I just want it re-blued , I can still hit magpies at 800 yards “ .....this being a .303 with a completely corroded bore ! Easier just to nod , agree and politely decline on some other pretext lest you end up responsible for ruining the wonder-gun. Once got told at a shoot the guy had a Lee Enfield which shoots 4” groups at 1000 yards - I was a bit slow there : should have whipped out the wallet and put $1,000 on it !🤣

[@ditto1958]

My dad was in the army in the Korean War. He worked as an acting 1st Sgt., but was never a commissioned officer. If my memory serves me right, he brought back his helmet liner, a duffel back, a gas mask bag (or musette bag, I don’t remember for sure, his blond leather double buckle combat boots, and a tan khaki canvas belt with brass buckle (he grew up in the Depression and was small- I was a “normal” sized 60’s American kid, and I wore that belt in first and second grade). I think he also may have brought back a trench knife and leather sheath. No firearms of any kind. As an enlisted man, he wasn’t issued a pistol. Most of the time as a clerical person he had an M-1 carbine, but that was taken away when he came back to the US. Officers had a lot more opportunity to bring things back and even to mail souvenirs, but it was hard for enlisted men to bring anything other than the items they were officially allowed.

[@jeramyw]

My grandfather was an officer in Vietnam. He had an M2 50 bmg machine gun and a full auto M14 in the closet. MPs eventually took em. He also had a really late production Nazi Luger he got from Grandma's dad that he picked up in WWII.

[@jvleasure]

Very rarely (as you said) I have seen 1911s that were legitimately granted to the vet by the CO of the unit. If I remember, my friend has one in a grouping that belonged to a fighter pilot with documentation from the squadron or group commander. I have the basic field gear from a combat engineer. His unit came home in the summer of 45 and had their 30 day furlough before readying to invade Japan. War ended and he basically reported to one of the discharge camps and the government couldnt care less about his helmet, pistol belt, compass, etc. Then there's the guy in my collection (8th air force pow) that stuck the paper that listed the dozens of items he HAD to turn in in his pants pocket before he became a civilian. Fascinating topic.

[@TorquilBletchleySmythe]

Got a good one for you. Met a dude who knew a guy who knew a guy who came back from Vietnam. When he landed in Australia, he was carrying a large bag. Customs asked if he had any firearms, to which he replied: "Yes, I have 1 M16, 1 SLR, 1 M60 and 250 rounds for each." The alleged reply was "Yeah, right smartarse. Just bugger off will you." Despite the fact that customs here has no sense of humour, I can't see anyone hefting that amount of brass and steel or getting it weighed for air transport without suspicion. There's idiots everywhere

[@tarettime9392]

There's an army surplus store in my city that has a 1.5 scale BAR and the sign on it says "This is the gun John Wayne used to single handedly defeat the Nazis." Are you telling me they aren't telling the truth?

[@vinceadams5140]

My Grandfather who was in the Navy, brought back from WW2 a Japanese Arisaka Type 99. He got it from a Marine following the landing at Tarawa. The story told to me numerous times from my Grandmother, Father, and Uncle, as the Marines were returning to the ships anchored off shore, one young Marine asked my Grandfather if he had anything to eat. My Grandfather, who was the ships cook, went below deck to see what he had available. He returned with a can of peaches and gave it to the Marine. In return the Marine gave my Grandfather the Arisaka he was carrying. My Grandfather said that wasn't necessary, but the Marine insisted saying "there will be a lot more where this came from before this war is over". My Grandfather never saw that Marine again. When my Grandfather died, my father inherited it, and when he died, I inherited it, and when it's time for me to go I will Will it to one of my nephews as I do not have any children. The Arisaka itself has some battle scars. There is a bullet hole through the butt stock, and a second hole with a bullet lodged in side. It never fails, when I show the rifle to people for the first time they always try to pick at the hole with the bullet. I always have to slap their hand away, telling them that bullet stays right where it's at. Second real fast story. When I retired from the military a few years back, the only items the Supply Sergent wanted back was my gas mask. Everything else, Helmet, vest, ka-bar, "high capacity" magazines, mess kits, etc. I kept. My brother who retired a few years before me, at a different base, was only able to keep his uniforms. Of course the armory kept their guns, too bad.

[@muffinman3111]

Do you have any photos of the arisaka ?

[@maltese_tiger_272]

Funny, my dad did actually smuggle a p08 from vietnam. The story goes that he was in a vietnamese village when one of his friends walked into a house and found a bunker system under a rug. My father was short enough to be fit for "tunnel rat service" as he describes it. He and four other short guys went into the tunnel, and about half way through, they heard some vietnamese guys yelling at eachother, then they heard 3 shots. When they got to the end of the tunnel system. They found three dead south vietnamese soldiers and an American soldier all tied to chairs with bullets in their head. They also found three dead vietcong who had presumably shot themself. On one of the dead vietcong, he found a luger p08. From the report after the mission. The military guys had guessed that the vietcong had heard my dad and his friends enter, and when they thought of what my dad would do if they found 4 dead allies, they decided to off themselves. My dad says he thinks that the vietcong fighter had a p08 because during the war, the Soviets gave lots a ww2 era russian and german equipment. You can look it up. Apparently, even mp40s and stg44s showed up in vietnam.

[@MikeB128]

Yeah sounds like another tall tale from a vet. I don't doubt he got it from Vietnam, but that story sounds like typical shit you hear from people. I'm aware how it got there, I have an entire series on the Vietnam War and the weapons that were used.

[@DaremoKamen]

I've got a rifle built on a Mauser 98 action my grandfather brought back as a souvenir. It has a K receiver but a straight handle bolt. My father told me he brought back 2 mausers planning to build them into hunting rifles since he was a skilled metal worker. But shortly after he had removed the stocks and barrels and thrown them away, Remington came out with the 721 and even with his skills he couldn't build a rifle as good for less than that. Dad says he gave away or sold the better action, eventually passed the other one to my dad who gave it to me. I had it cleaned up and assembled into a complete hunting rifle with minimum modification just so it wouldn't rust away to nothing. Purely for sentimental reasons, a good used Remchester or Savage would have been cheaper.

[@matthewkrupa-gregory9682]

If you had a podcast I would listen to it all day long, you’re voice is perfect!

[@GlassWolfLH]

I like your myth busting videos. My father served two tours in Viet Nam with MAC-V/SOG (30 year vet) and on his passing, I was handed down his 1911, that still says "property of US government" on it (Remington Rand make) and the serial dates to June 1945. He also brought back a Chinese SKS, and a TT33 (no stupid thumb safety add-on, thank God) I have his SOG blade as well as his Beret. The blade at least can be authenticated, as it's engraved to him from his unit.

[@randomprojectsusa5196]

My great grandpa kept his knife and binoculars

[@MikeB128]

Are either of those firearms? The comment is irrelevant to the content of the video....

[@randomprojectsusa5196]

Mike B I can throw them, causing trauma and killing the enemy.

[@billcat1840]

my grandfather had a K98 in the closet. As a kid, I thought it was a civil war rifle...wrong. Got older and into guns and was like damn a K98! it had disappeared by then. damn it

[@keonia.9553]

Mike I didn't think I could enjoy your channel more than I already do, but then you brought a plumbus.

[@justinbellio2285]

My grandma-ma told me I am an Indian princess

[@gijoe9106]

Ahh You can be whatever u want now!! , I used to be a white guy NOW I'm a black lesbian ,😉👌

[@captainbackflash]

Hmm, feathers or dots

[@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138]

High cheek bones? 🤗

[@Isaac-jf9ju]

My grandpa brought back an Arisaka from the Pacific when he got back, along with the beyonet, and a Japanese NCO sword.

[@b-chroniumproductions3177]

This is more believable, the US government doesn't track Japanese weapons, after all.

[@kimisdaman]

My dad brought home an Arisaka and a Type 26 revolver. For some reason, he was afraid of being caught with a Nambu he'd traded cigarettes for, and threw it in a Japanese river.

[@mrwehraboo5478]

*uh oh*

[@Totes_ma_Goat]

My grandad loved the m1 carbine in ww2. He brought a couple when he got back for like $20 each. Funny how these old junk gun, garbage rods fetch over $1000 now.

[@Nick-ys4py]

My grandpa brought back his PSA blem in which he used to fight general Tso at little big horn!! Was super intense the way his bro jon rambo took down sadam

[@abntemplar82]

I know for a fact my grandfather brought a couple guns home from his tours in both theatres. however they weren't American firearms, because like you said, the US military considers the weapons sensitive items. but those were trophies he smuggled back.

[@WardenWolf]

My grandfather carried an M1 Carbine in WWII, and when they liquidated them postwar he bought one. Still has the original shipping box from the Red River Army Depot in Texarkana, Texas.

[@kimisdaman]

I have one that my dad bought in the '50s, also shipped from Red River. It has a Mt. Rainier Arsenal rebuild stamp, and my folks lived about fifteen miles from there at the time.

[@veeepool]

The 45 dislikes were the people who just found the import mark.

[@ashtonsherrod7763]

Good video Mike I like this video series. I thought time stamp 5:40. Edit: do the 30 carbine is a shit caliber myth.

[@timothyripley4175]

I've heard a couple of vets say they took ak internals and various other firearm internals from fallen enemies and sent them home in pieces to avoid questioning.

[@BloodEagle.]

Closest thing I've ever experienced with this is actually within my family. Great grandfather immigrated to the US then fought in WW1. Came back in one piece somehow and bought a surplus 1903. That's it, wasn't his issued rifle, it was just a surplus rifle he bought some time after he got back.

[@tuckera6273]

My grandpa used this in ww2 *PULLS OUT GAS CANISTER*

[@Bloodreign137]

I binged this whole series this morning after finding your channel, got home from work and saw a new episode posted. Really glad I subbed earlier

[@aceventurasspear22]

Listen if someone ACTUALLY DID have a gun that their grandfather managed to bring home from the war, I’d be more impressed that they managed to sneak it past whatever branch they were with more than they had some old gun.

[@aaronlanotte2008]

If the grandad was reunited with his rifle, its literally a 1/5,000,000 chance your grandpa went to the store and found the exact rifle he used in the military.

[@gunslingerfromwish4656]

My grampa said my great grampa tried to smuggle a thompson through the mail. Never came.

[@patricpeters9716]

The other problem with this that I have as someone who occasionally buys guns, is the price tag that is slapped onto them because "it was the gun my dad used in the Pacific or Normandy". As i walk around gun shows I hear the same thing every time I see any US surplus rifle, and they're usually priced way over $1500. When I try to ask if they'll go lower, they say "well its kinda special because my dad used it in the war", and I have to say, "Sir, I thank your dad for his service but I am purchasing a gun to shoot, not his wartime story." I think to myself, if that one gun out of all the other ones on this table is so special to him, why is he/she selling it among all these others? Surely that would be the one you'd keep at home, assuming their dad is not the exception to the myth described in Mike's video.

[@nattybird1146]

the case with finding the same gun with the same serial number, was my grandpa, who had a buddy who had something to do with getting the guns back, and kept track of the m1 carbine, and made sure it got back to my grandpa, i dont remember the entire story, but thats just a condensed story of what happened, but he did get his m1 carbine, very lucky, another gun i have, is a m1 garand national match trophy rifle, that my dad got from a friend who is a marine, it was a gift from him, because he had no kids, no one to inherit the m1 garand, so he gave it to my dad

[@craigstephen3216]

When I was 21 I bought an Intrarms 1911. I showed it to my dad a WW2 combat vet. He said this was just like the 45 he carried in the war. Wow I did not know they had custom grips and and sights back then.

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

I have the Garand that my father said came home from Hawaii in his foot locker. He was there from sometime in early 45 to sometime in 46. I have little reason to doubt the story because there are, or were before they were destroyed in a flood, pictures dated 1948 that show my father and uncle with this rifle at my grandparents farm. I can personally attest to the rifle's whereabouts from 1963 til present, had the pictures from 48, and may still have the negatives. Along with the rifle were a couple dozen clips loaded with ball ammo with a headstamp of 42, I still have one, and a long style bayonet dated 1917. The rifles barrel is date coded 10/41 so was not his originally issued rifle . Some of the web gear that he also brought back was dated 42. When my father was pulled off the troop ship, and reassigned, his weapon and gear didn't make the trip with him and he was issued replacements that were a few years old when he got them.

[@trymrep7326]

Man these old rifels are grat fun, got a k98 with a flamy birch stock, its absolutley gorgeous🤤

[@Green.Country.Agroforestry]

You get to keep your uniform and ruck because you pay for it - out of your first paycheck, which you do not even get to see until after basic training. If you want a firearm of your own, you have to buy it yourself .. and just as a side note, I got busted once on an article 92 violation for doing just that. The base commander, upon learning that I was a gunner's mate, laughed out loud, said "Yep, that explains it", and penalized me with a reduction in rate and pay, restriction to base, and extra duty. Go NAVY ! ;)

[@shawnr771]

The Army took back everything but my uniforms and duffel bags.

[@jdthompson8783]

My grandpa (Korean war) told me he tried to smuggle a PPSh43 back from Korea... but they inspected everyone's bags coming back and he got in a lot of shit for it. I'm sure some got away with it but it's a very rare occurrence. I'm sure he would have gotten in a lot more trouble if it had been his issued rifle.

[@mountainghost556]

I have the tank in my back yard my grand dad fought in,he smuggled it home in his duffel bag pice by piece. It took him 4 yrs to do it. He just told them it was a feild loss.

[@faolor6468]

Madlad grand dad

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

The Johnny Cash song One Piece at a Time.

[@michaelmatthews2759]

my great grandfather was an MP and he was under some circumstances allowed to purchase his rifle, still have the recipt he was given. I realize this wasn't the norm but he was able to take his home, it has no import marks naturally

[@jonathangreer7587]

I love that you call people on their bs. Too bad CMP will never sell M-14 or old stock M-16’s even though they will all be beat to hell. Oh and most civilians don’t understand that our rifles live in the armory 90% of the time when you’re State side lol.

[@MikeB128]

I'd say 99% when stateside.

[@varsitylake6426]

There's a story I read in Field and Stream where a G.I. mailed his M1 Garand home secretly, piece by piece. When he got home from the war he reassembled it, propped it on his front porch, and didn't touch it again, allowing it to rust and turn into junk.

[@MikeB128]

Yeah you read it in a magazine, so it must be true.

[@varsitylake6426]

@@MikeB128 Ah, I see you too are a man of wisdom 🤗

[@dennis4774]

I know how you feel, as myself kept reminding my wife and child that my guns were not the one I use in Iraq.

[@thatoneweeb-wehraboo2424]

I personally won't believe if a Rifle is from WWII from just looking at it unless it shows it. Like one of the Rifles my father bought a few years ago. He bought 2 Type 99 Arisakas, both with the Imperial Seal intact, and one looks like it's in as good condition as the Garand in the video and the other looks it went through hell and back (Wood discoloration, lots of scratches, cracks, dried blood still in the receiver, and someone's name or Initials crudely carved into the stock.) I know some or most rifles are well kept, but that one is genuine and has a story to tell. Even though I've rarely seen it, it's hard to get an image like that out of your head.

[@brandyfromdaburg3859]

The plumbus was originally manufactured by Mattel when they were issued to soldiers in Vietnam

[@MrSloika]

I've heard this too. Best one: "This is the M1 Carbine my grandfather stormed Iwo Jima with." Holds up gun marked "Plainfield Machine".

[@MrSniperdude01]

Kid with a $2 laser toy zapper... "This here is the gun my daddy used to fight the civil war !" 😆

[@joenodetail3499]

Guy:Man I got this ww2 sniper rifle Me: oh really Guy: pulls out a fucking mosin

[@kylefng]

How about the myth that a .50 cal round buzzing by your face will pull your face off 😂

[@boyboy-ru3gx]

That and private purchase guns being used in the military

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

What are they like about that?

[@shawnr771]

Carrying your civilian firearm into a war zone is war crime.

[@itzztim6987]

I heard some American Troops took some enemy's weapon like Japanese Katanas and German pistols. Is that true?

[@brandonbennett3082]

War Trophies were allowed. Bringing home government property issued to you was not.

[@Pte.Fletcher]

I had a similar situation with my step-great grandads cap badge (which is on my beret in my profile picture), my grandparents gave it to me years ago and told it me it was the one he had, and I thought they meant the exact one, turns out they bought it in Normandy, and I just misunderstood what they meant. My great grandad actually brought back his 1907 bayonet, but my great aunt used it to stab the couch, so he got rid of it sadly

[@ronloomis8245]

Won't my grandchildren be surprised when I give the the 26 ton 155 mm self-propelled M109A2 Howitzer I had.

[@bvcxz47]

my brother had a gun shop and that was a common story, one time a guy brought in a Ruger standard auto and said my grandfather took this from a dead Nazi officer. and he believed it was true.

[@tristin6995]

I bought an Arisaka 38 that was in a ruff condition but i wanted an arisaka no matter what. When i bought it the guy gave me his Grandpas Mail receipt from 1945 , so i got a nice capture with mum intact :)

[@frankpolly]

I work at a museum near Arnhem and one time an old waffen SS veteran that fought at Arnhem visited and he actually recognized his Gewehr 43 that we had by the serial number. He didn't bring his gun back from the war, but he at least knew where it was.

[@danielalvarez-galan3702]

Bullshit I walked out of the service with my m16, I just had to steal it piece by piece, like that Johnny Cash song.

[@MikeB128]

Bet it was a Mattel M16 too wasn't it 🧐

[@JabCrossLowkick]

My dad's friend was able to take home his 1911 and a deactivated M72 law or some shit, sat in a corner and was really fucking cool. I have no clue how he got to take it home but I saw it with my own eyes

[@pearldragonz]

Reminds me of the guy who was showing off his sawed off 12 ga double barrel. Tried to tell me it was over 100 years old and passed down through the family for generations. Thing was a Stoeger with a green laminated stock and perfect bluing, Couldn't have been more than 10-15 years old. Called him on it and I get a story that this was a rare variation from back when they first experimented with laminated stocks. Just shook my head and walked off.

[@GAKTomory]

I've heard the Lost, Damaged, or destroyed in combat myth and then shipped it home. I've seen the paperwork and background for that, and no one wants that hassle.