STW #32: Wrestlemania IX

[@strathroyaaron]

I actually thought that was Vince at the beginning... well done Bruce

[@adriansmith2182]

Me too

[@Skazellino]

The Vince was great, that particular Macho was bad.

[@AOIbis]

I actually love this, it was one of the first wrestlemanias i watched live as a kid with my dad

[@MattSingh1]

It was dreadful. Just awful, and one of the worst ever.

[@calamaty9963]

I liked it too.

[@orangemaniabrother2232]

It's one of my favorites

[@Realest636]

As a kid: I was taken by the surprise ending.

[@MrBooBeeDoo]

Me too. I believe it was the first one shown LIVE in the UK.

[@TheGodinme88]

I love when Conrad gets tickled while reading a Dave Meltzer review🤣

[@lostways27]

In 1993, Bret was rumored to fight Warrior at Rumble and Hogan at Summerslam, but neither match happened.

[@stevepmg9202]

Bret says he wanted to work Warrior in 93 (for Mania, he envisaged) according to his book. I never read anyone else spin that. Him and Hogan was more than rumoured, Vince told Bret that was the plan and they shot publicity photos for it. Leading to KOTR Hogan told Bret that his deal was always to lose to Yoko, and when Bret confronted Vince in front of Hogan, Vince denied ever promising Hogan would be losing to him. According to Brets book.

[@toma.4808]

Matt Borne as heel Doink was awesome. It kinda lost its edge for me when Doink turned face . The evil clown gimmick was more appealing

[@Will-h7h]

Face Doink was awful. His feud with Bam Bam Bigelow was just cringe all round, Bam Bam won the feud and still looked like an idiot doing it. Didn't help that it was Ray Apollo by this point(I think) as Matt Borne had been fired.

[@FatLadyKiller]

This was not matt borne guy. It was ray apollo

[@Dredsed]

The way he fucked up Crush was AMAZING ❤❤❤

[@stevecarrell2163]

@@Will-h7h 9

[@brodykossler239]

😅😮😮😮😮😮

[@AcidRayne100]

Look at how many top guys had left between Wrestlemania 8 and Wrestlemania 9. Circumstances meant this wrestlemania would be one of the least favourable ones ever, but they managed to rebuild relatively quickly when you look at the awesome Wrestlemania 10.

[@thedoctor8]

Might be a bottom 5 Mania but easily a top 5 Mania in terms of stage/setting. So unique and nothing will ever top it. Especially with WWE only doing stadium shows for Mania nowadays. They even made Undertaker’s entrance seem spooky in the daytime. Impressive.

[@MattSingh1]

This is exactly wrong- the setting was dreadful, it was a make-shift arena in the parking lot for goodness sake. It was awful.

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

Matthew Singh-Dosanjh well they made a shitty parking lot look like a legit Roman coliseum type atmosphere, it was fun to look at and the location being bad makes that even more impressive

[@andrewberube8973]

The best wrestling podcast going

[@Cuddyscott84]

Damn straight... Just after WHW though right..?

[@michaelforsythe9350]

This was my absolute favorite podcast until I started listening to WHW with Tony.

[@editnosmirc4489]

WHW is just a bunch of watch alongs

[@soup8786]

Bruce is great

[@reviewthewrasslin7290]

Jim Cornette exists tho...

[@vickicairns]

Growing up wrestlemania 9 was always my fav

[@TheGodinme88]

I agree!

[@jermiebastings8499]

These two guys give each other such a hard time but they have a ton of respect for each other. They are one hell of a good team keep it up guys love STW.

[@TheTEAMBUTLER]

Imagine if they just put hogan beats yoka. And macho v Bret main event. Macho puts bret over. It would of been so much better

[@editnosmirc4489]

Yupp. Then Bret could have dropped the title to Yoko at SummerSlam if they wanted to give him a title reign

[@gravewax5892]

I would have loved to have seen macho v Bret. Did they ever do a singles program?

[@Will-h7h]

Macho and Bret had 1 match ever I think. Think it was when the Hart Foundation were aligned with Honky Tonk Man and Savage was feuding with Honky Tonk Man.

[@EOTA564]

I think Yoko should have worked with Taker from the start. Then we would have been spared those awful Giant Gonzalez matches. Hennig should gave taken the strap from Flair in late ‘92 (and beat Flair again in career ending match at RR ‘93) and then lost to Bret at WM. Think how great their KOTR match was and how much more they could have done in a Mania main event. Would likely have been one of the greatest matches of all time.

[@Dredsed]

Great idea

[@krestmarketing]

One of my favorite episodes. Fills in a lot of blanks. I got in to WWE shortly after WM 9. So much mystery for me back then wondering what happened to all the big names. Listening to This also helped me get through a hard time in life. Thanks guys.

[@jayb-clay2724]

I listen to you everyday at work while I weld Conrad either with Bruce or Eric but STW is def #1

[@foxmulderGC]

I can picture Warrior submitting to the sharpshooter, standing up and running straight off towards backstage with his arms in the air

[@warshipsatin8764]

i can imagine bret submitting to the sharpshooter and running backstage with tears in his eyes

[@BishopM1]

Bret was so over in Europe because they were a lot less gilts and glamor with their wrestling. They liked guys that can go, look at all the big stars that come out of over there. They’re shooters and technicians. They like workers a lot, no nonsense and posing. People like Hogan and Rock are of course loved worldwide but Bret was loved over there for those reasons.

[@Yoyoyomyg]

Bobby Heenan's entrance was the best part of Wrestlemania 9

[@dkres82]

Nah the girls that came out with Luger.

[@joaquindelossantos7140]

@@dkres82you’re both correct

[@dkres82]

@@joaquindelossantos7140 fair

[@jstinson7072]

Honestly 1 of the best Dusty Rhodes impressions I've ever heard.

[@vinson311]

The vulture with Undertaker was cool looking though. My wife who isn't necessarily a wrestling fan saw this today when I was watching it on WWE Network and even commented about the vulture making it look cool. She asked me if he always had it in that era and I said nope, that's "WRESTLEMANIA" in my best Mr McMahon voice.

[@CAMZAB]

You should've said yes and maybe she would've got into watching the Undertaker despite finding out he never had it again.

[@pollard068]

God damn pal!

[@RealAlphaDrum]

Vulture was a nice daytime touch.

[@fuscinula]

Damn, WM9 with Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner sounds much better than what happened.

[@stefan4123]

And i would have pounded that whiner into the mat.

[@MarkoAnzio]

@@stefan4123 you couldn’t lace up Bret’s boots. You were nothing more than a roided out jobroni.

[@stefan4123]

@@MarkoAnzio That did more in life than you! How's socializing on youtub treating you? Get out of here scrub.

[@MarkoAnzio]

@@stefan4123 where would you be without the roids and your brother? He was the real star in the Steiner family. The roids have tricked your little BB brain into thinking that you’re a winner.

[@stefan4123]

@@MarkoAnzio Thats why Scott = solo and Ric quit. Was nothing left for him in wrestling. And NCAA records say otherwise.

[@bradhogan2461]

I may have already said it but....... This is still MY favourite WrestleMania. Just watched it again this week! Awesome!! (However the alt booking that Bruce speaks of would have also been great to see)

[@ncberz11]

The last half hour is my favorite part of any podcast

[@adaubs1980]

It is!…. Any podcast ever lol

[@travisandrew2130]

Awesome introduction! It's almost like Wrestlemania 9 is the next upcoming event plugged on the podcast and it's happening this weekend

[@RazorShalom]

I was at WM 9 I was like 6 lol it was cool..my dad was performing in Vegas that weekend. We got free tickets. I met the undertaker that night.

[@mikequesada6559]

Something to wrestle is the #1 podcast!!

[@rayfinkel4434]

Absolutely love these guys and the conversations and topics

[@ASHUTOSH-im6pp]

09:25

[@Super122291]

jc 23 thanks gorgeous

[@grimmcalypso396]

Appreciate ya

[@DarkLordofTheSith69]

Doot Doot Doot

[@rossomac21]

They actually do show the Lex/Bret angle on the home video release. In hindsight, we were very spoiled on our wwf vhs's Edit: Also Conrad is wrong, Hogan did come to England that summer.

[@troywright359]

yes, it was a colliseum home video exclusive, Bret does an interview and they show the footage

[@FatLadyKiller]

Conrad is always wrong. He thinks he knows everything and the only thing he knows is how to be an obnoxious fat boy.

[@Dredsed]

@@FatLadyKiller fuck off you absolute loser mark

[@MrJ33352]

These 2 work well together.👍

[@Polishjazzman]

MrJ33352 l,

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

I fckn love to hear these dudes argue. It's hard to believe one is a generation older than the other.

[@tonedogg9335]

Awesome video...! I always wondered what everyone was thinking behind the scenes. I never knew the casino bought all the expensive tickets to give to high rollers.

[@BishopM1]

The reason Bret was so over overseas and Europe especially is because he performed the style they liked, technical, mat based, chain wrestling. That’s UK/European style wrestling. Unlike ‘80s American brawling, showmanship, hand behind the ear posing, big power move wrestling. Duh.

[@raysoyars2905]

Great show! one thing I thought was funny was the Asian community complaint bit, and Conrad saying that Brett wasn't American, but ya'll left out that Yokozuna was Samoan which is Polynesian not Asian (ijs) :)

[@jasonrfoss248]

Yokozuna was an American citizen. He was born in San Francisco.

[@birdsfan34]

I love these Podcasts. This was a rough time for WWE however.

[@russcontini]

awesome once again. As many PPV's as you want to recount, I will listen.

[@AWrestlingHistorian]

"Before I give my Maniac’s some behind the scene scoops on how my Run came to an end in 93 which made me truly believe my career was over. Before I say any more on the matter, I’ll just say that I wanted to stay on the top and believed Hulkamania had a lot more in its gas tank but sometimes our ego’s get the best of us. As I’ve said in prior interviews Vince & myself have always seen eye to eye on most things. Seldomly we had disagreements and even when I disagreed, I’d always remain professional about it and do what was asked and take up my complaint after the fact like professionals do. Some guys pulled no-shows and some even took their ball & went home while screwing the company that made them as well as the fans who loved them; all for their misperception of thinking “they” are their own bosses or some other delusional thought process. Becoming a Superstar takes thousands and sometimes even millions of dollars and hundreds of people behind the scenes to make you have your very own marketable Brand. Why anyone would ever feel they were screwed or not feel a direction of their character was good enough for them or whatever is just mind-blowing to me! Wake-up call, you wouldn’t have your own Brand, exposure and popularity if it wasn’t for the company who made you. That being said, direction of my character wasn’t going the way I liked and since my contract was for a few extra years, I didn’t have much of a leg to stand on but remained professional and in late 1992 I had several conversations with Vince in regards to the direction of Hulkamania. We both knew it was still the hottest Wrestler Brand on the market by far but he felt it reached a plateau; which was hard to hear at the time but understood but respectfully disagreed. At the time, my in-ring career was slowed down a lot and I did other projects like filming Mr. Nanny and various public relation & community out-reach work for the WWE all around the country. Storyline-wise, not much was on forefront and Hulkamnia was beginning to be shelved. I took this opportunity of not only being used not the way I wanted but simply not being used period to re-open discussions of Hulkamnia’s future. Vince had his mind made up and so did I and since we are like two stubborn brothers bull headed and banging heads, only to get headaches instead of budging. Even though I felt like I had a lot more to offer and didn’t want to leave the fans, I asked out of my contract since the writing on the wall (so to speak) seemed inevitable to retire anyways. Suprisingly Vince agreed and we began to plan for Hulkamania’s departure and to pass the torch once again. At the time it HAD to be Bret Hart or Yokozuna. Bret Hart was in his first year being main event status and he clearly proved his dedication to the business and dominated the Tag Team division throughout the 80’s and the IC division for a few years and was just an amazing performer. His work ethic was off the charts and he clearly began to have a following that enabled him to not only be the face of the company but carry the torch successfully. Yokozuna on the other hand didn’t nearly pay his dues like the Hitman did but came in as an overwhelming force that shot him up to main event status almost overnight. Yoko was working a program with this hitman already and Vince & I knew we could get not only get a few extra bucks out of one last Hulkamania Run but also knew Hulkamnia could be instrumental in setting up the next guy. I was leaning more towards Bret… so much in-fact we did some photo-shoots for a possible feud and even doing a tug of war with the belt looked awesome while seeing the pictures afterwards. However, Bret was a Babyface (good guy) and so was I. The only time a Babyface vs Babyface happened on a grand level thus far was at WM6 which caused a split crowd and even though it was awesome, it kept the crowd divided afterwards. Having a Heel (bad guy) beat the Babyface or vice-versa has always been the traditional format. In addition, Bret was just now beginning to be a major player and to have him go against Hulkamania with the risk of him generating heat over it didn’t make much sense. Just look at Wrestlemania 18, I went against the Rock as a bad guy and even though he was a good guy, the people booed him and pretty much turned him heel in that match if you watch it. Not wanting to put a damper on Bret’s raise to the top, it was decided that Yoko would beat the Hitman at Wrestlemania 9 and prove himself to be unstoppable and have me come out to win beat Yoko on a whim and take the title from him to become the Champ for the last time and enjoy my final Run; which happened. In this process, it did put Bret on the back burner, but allowed Yokozuna to gain even more heat with the crowd and more established Yoko by giving him the credentials under his belt when defeating me at King of the Ring 1993… This not only eventually gave Bret Hart center stage as the main guy, but a great Heel to work with and no one had to share the spotlight with Hulkamnia anymore. This was my last match in WWE for nearly 10 years. After Yokozuna won against me, if that wasn’t enough he squashed me like a pancake brothers; which made for an easy & believable send off for me. Vince was happy with the way I put over Yoko and whoever beat Yoko in following years had the bragging rights to say they did what Hulk Hogan couldn’t; so it all made sense. WWE had the perfect bad guy that killed Hulkamania and I got out of my contract to pursue other projects, primarily Thunder in Paradise. I would say enjoy this video of that was believed to be Hulkamania’s last match in 1993 but… knowing the beating I took against this big man." - Hulk Hogan Deleted website blog, February 17, 2015

[@TheFreeSkate]

Bret would have had heat he says? LMAO. Bret had more fan mail then Hogan in 1992. Hogan was being booed in 1991 for pete sakes...he would not have been the heavily cheered in this match. Most of us all turned to Bret Hart for new guy, left hogan in early 1991...he was stale. It was to much same ol' promos and matches. Where in the heck does Hogan think he would been so cheered? He didnt raise the tv viewers in 1993 or 1994 or 1995. Wrestling got big late 1996 once the wrestlers for wwf and wcw got better

[@troywright359]

interesting.

[@joemama7163]

Write a book dumbass. This is a comment section.

[@carminebasilicata6755]

You guys are the best you put together long informationa podcast

[@charliefritze]

I was super into WWF at the time and loved every bit of it. Was obsessed with the Hitman.

[@marshallbyrne9426]

Bret Hart and Marty Jannetty were my two favorite back then

[@coreyhunter1907]

This one Conrad botched the "attack". Prichard stated Hogan was given the title to increase prices. Conrad then states that's dumb because the tickets (for April/May) were already sold. THEN they discover Hogan wasn't on that tour but was on the late summer tour. Now Conrad laughs that Hogan didn't have the belt then. This actually proves Prichard's memory 100% right - they SALES would be in April, May and June - just like Prichard said.

[@bubbacalling]

Yea but what was weird though was Yoko was legit the champion in May, then in August Hulk turned up to the London event I watched with the belt, advertised still as champion haha.

[@MiroFloydtan]

Conrad: Does this ever come up or is that just smart marks like us that keep up with this? Bruce: That's just smart marks like you that keep up with this I love this show.

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

I usually listen to these on iTunes, but just had to check the KZbin version just to see if people were as annoyed with Conrad as I was during the endless “What about the European tour with no Hulk?” There could be decisions made and then not capitalized on - happens all the time, and Bruce already stated that he wouldn’t have put the belt on Hulk personally. The only other time (so far) that I’ve been annoyed was Conny whining about the Sgt Slaughter/Hogan angle from WM 7 lol Regardless, excellent podcast.

[@fins2334]

CarloisBuriedAlive couldn’t agree more. Conrad STFU

[@FatLadyKiller]

You are so correct. I would like this show so much better without him.

[@FreneticZetetic]

Conrad is annoying AF

[@leoteasdale7484]

without Conrad there wouldn't be a show. well a show as good as this, he does so much prep and notes for the shows he dosnt miss a thing. Although he can be slightly annoying at times yes.

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

@@leoteasdale7484 I can appreciate the research, but the fact that Dave Meltzer is gospel is absolutely ridiculous. His ruling is often the only perception to a match having been publicly satisfying or not for a performance art that is mostly subjective

[@borednow5838]

That question about "What could have been?" If they had gone with Bruce's plan to have Scott Steiner win the Rumble and main event Mania is very interesting. At that point the Steiners had peaked as a team and weren't quite the same in WWF as in WCW. Then when you consider how bad Scott's 2002-03 singles run was, he would have had a much better chance of success as a singles in 93.

[@cptnmrgnkid]

Bored Now I disagree. He needed the Big Poppa Pump gimmick to really be a top star. Without it he was just another guy who wrestled.

[@borednow5838]

Don't forget the early 90s was a different time for wrestling. Part of the drawback might have been if the WWF fans wouldn't have known Steiner from his WCW. But he still had one hell of a look, a decent promo and could go in the ring. I think Bruce's idea at least for a short term run might have worked.

[@cretinousjester3475]

Bored Now: The scenario of a "reverse" of what had been a staple of WWF may have happened. If he had, he might have been a great heel to Bret. He had the look Vince loved but he could wrestle with competence comparable to Hennig. Add in Luger and you'd have Bret going up against heels who were bigger, stronger, etc. Bret could have a match with anyone so the draw would be to see him triumph against these "supermen".

[@borednow5838]

Good point.

[@MohamedAli-xu3uw]

@@borednow5838 Stenier was injured during his run in 2003.

[@doesitmatter9085]

As a Beefcake fan I was actually so stoked to see him back and I was so disappointed that he and Hogan didn't get a run as tag team champions.

[@Johnlmooring]

Lol I swear that intro had me for a second. The best of this wrestle mania was The Narcissist intro

[@Dredsed]

Totally agree with both points

[@ericjackson7632]

I agree on evil Doink. An evil clown that terrorizes people would've been a great top heel in the New Generation era.

[@kristopherzvirblis8441]

I know that a lot of people hate on wrestlemania 9 but to be honest I rather enjoyed it and was a big fan of the venue eg. The open air venue. At the time it was a refreshing change compared to your typical indoor arena.

[@aronmaslan6604]

3:57 This is so true, and not just regarding Bad News.

[@sabercrosby8128]

My first WWF live event was on the post wrestlemania 9 tour and there was no hulk hogan. Newcastle, England - Whitley Bay Ice Rink - April 19, 1993 Virgil defeated Terry Taylor Doink the Clown (Keirn) defeated Tito Santana Rick & Scott Steiner defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Ted Dibiase & IRS via disqualification The Bushwhackers defeated the Beverly Brothers Tatanka defeated Papa Shango The Undertaker defeated Giant Gonzalez via disqualification Bret Hart defeated Bam Bam Bigelow

[@Nostalgicguy2242]

Funny how Keirn and Chico were trading wins around that time.... Chico beat Keirn (Skinner) over and over and Keirn got the wins back as Doink

[@bubbacalling]

I was at that tour too, but I was at the 'B' show, headlined by Luger and Perfect (I think). I remember being annoyed because the 'A' show you were at had Taker AND Bret!! Anyway, Bruce and Conrad are both wrong here, and it was a weird situation in 1993 with the UK tour. They came to England at least 3 times in 1993. February was headlined by Bret v. Flair, then we had April with the shows I just mentioned. Then in August, they came back again and THAT was the tour with Hogan that they are talking about on the podcast. Bizarrely, Hogan was the champion v. Yoko and won by DQ every night. He was champion and had the belt with him, even though he lost the belt 3 months earlier to Yoko at King of the Ring. I guess WWF didn't care about what was happening on their PPVs because it made no sense when I was at Earls Court watching Hogan with the belt. Very strange.

[@MohamedAli-xu3uw]

@@bubbacalling Hogan won the belt at the tour and lost to yokozuna at the end for it I guess.

[@itsjustme1213]

The Hogan tour was in the Summer of 93

[@jasoncutshaw8401]

WM9 was one of the best WM ever..

[@rebeccabaskin9859]

I totally sgree with bruce about yokozuna

[@davey3884]

Savage was a phenomenal in-ring worker and promo, but he was the shits as a commentator..

[@anthonydoran4305]

Conrad, I hate to break it to you, Hogan lies... A lot

[@Pugiron]

Anthony, I hate to break it to you but Bruce lies constantly, you moron mark.

[@CurbsideLife]

Darn I was hoping the rumor of Macho Man punching Hulk to give him the black eye was true.

[@Cuddyscott84]

Wish warrior would've worked on his matches for wrestlemania 12 & Halloween havoc 98 few years later. & Halloween havoc is the only ppv. I ever ordered as a kid. & the last match cut off & Hogan warrior was obviously amazing

[@justinroark88]

Let's do a drinking game for each time Conrad says "chat me up"

[@AdyBooth]

we'd all die

[@LJF_JR]

We’d all be shitfaced

[@Super122291]

@@LJF_JR chat me up

[@michaelpitt57]

Chat me up

[@thefiggamehunt6946]

Saw Hogan beat Yoko by dq in Sheffield England in August 93. He appeared on that tour of England and Germany (probably a few other countries as well) but yokozuna was champion again by then

[@michaelfrazia4569]

interesting how Bruce says savage was wanting to make the transition to announcer and on 83 weeks bischoff said the main reason savage came was because Vince was trying to force him out of wrestling and put him into announcing

[@ScrubOT]

I always thought it was interesting that Eric bischoff and Bruce have very different perspectives on savage's move to wcw. Their stories about what he wanted vary so much. It's fair to say that he probably teetered back and forth in retirement.

[@tomseville1057]

They rehired Hulk after his appearance on the talk show burying Bret? Wish I was more shocked.

[@Johnlmooring]

Lol man Bruce Sounds exactly like Dusty in his impersonation

[@Lee81uk]

2:11:50 “Look at the striations”

[@Realest636]

The vascularity!!

[@jasonrfoss248]

If you watch the old WBF shows Vince actually does gush over those guys and use those exact terms.

[@kennethmccullah4905]

I love how Conrad gets Bruce all worked up. I still believe Hogan politiced his way into getting the belt again. Hogan wasn't champion through the Europe tour and Bruce even admitted that Hart was massively over in Europe. Why would they put the belt on Hogan when Bret was over huge just before a European tour?

[@mrkipling2201]

Always felt that Shawn Michaels should have had that feud ending match with Marty Jannetty.

[@tomseville1057]

Marty was set to have that payoff at WM VIII, but GOT FIRED after the Barber Shop angle. In '93, he jobbed at the Rumble to set up WM IX where he AND Sherri would get their revenge on Shawn together. Marty GOT FIRED after the Rumble, and eventually got his title win in May, but any prospects were dead after he dropped it back in June, and he GOT FIRED in Feb '94...

[@jrdoo7x]

the funny thing about this was watching waitresses severing drinks in the audience. watch the matches and you can see them in the crowd.

[@Nostalgicguy2242]

There is a tale that a fight between two guys broke in the crowd in the Crush vs Doink match.. maybe they had a little too much booze on them

[@jamesbonnen]

The ref of the Beefcake/Hogan vs. Money Inc. was Danny Davis

[@redfield1007]

No it wasn't it was Roman Reigns.

[@juanguerrero1468]

dangerous Danny Davis

[@rackballjones6585]

Prove it

[@tomseville1057]

Ironically, Jimmy Hart managed Danny during his heel ref turned heel wrestler run, now he's selling and bumping for him...

[@huh8662]

Bruce's Hogan impression was the shits lol

[@king425onlyforrest7]

I remember reading a wrestling magazine around the time of 1993, (pwi) and there was an advertisement for Summerslam with Hogan Undertaker and Hart, and Shawn Michaels opposing eachother.. I am actually going to purchase all the 1992 and 1993 back issues from pwi so I could find it. Was this supposed to be a tag match or what was the deal?!? This would have been summerslam 93 which Hogan wasnt around for.

[@jamesbonnen]

1993 Mark of the Quad Cities October 3,000 people to see a championship match Yokozuna vs. Bret Hart in a steel cage, sad.

[@Nostalgicguy2242]

Razor was the star at that time... when he won the Intercontinental title from The Model the place was filled to the max and seemed about to erupt when Hall put the Model in the Razor's edge...

[@csw3287]

I was there.

[@leoteasdale7484]

Can you imagine if Vince went woth the Scott Steiner winning the Rumble 93 and headlining Mania 9 with Brett. WOW, that would of been crazy..!!! how different would of things been.. I always loved Scott at this time.

[@op2001]

Growing up this was one of my favorite wm. I do see though it doesn't age well.

[@tomseville1057]

It says Crush-Doing negative PR. I get it's an easy typo, but it sounded like Brian Adams had gone off disparaging the product to the media...

[@joeybrabham8091]

This was a pretty good mania

[@theslickrips5904]

I too still love ya tatanka to this day. I think it was his colorful and bright attire/hair that I really enjoyed,

[@gregharper6382]

If you’re curious about Hogans eye like I was 2:00:38

[@taekwondotime]

2:02:00 Hogan and Beefcake should avoid beaches. Geeez.

[@gravewax5892]

The Bret Ric issues could have been everything that Bruce said. Maybe they were TOO similar. That happens alot...

[@mikepeterson764]

Promoted as the greatest Wrestlemania ever.

[@juanguerrero1468]

it was

[@robdangripp9406]

Macho Man Randy Savage and Bret Hart should have been the main event

[@carlt9265]

Awww i miss all this 😢

[@tonedogg9335]

Eeeeell when McMahon says ceasarrrrs palaccceee

[@saurabhsuri]

“Bret never drew “ is the biggest lie told in pro wrestling He made wrestling believable which was the whole point He put the world in WWF Was more over internationally than hogan ever was outside US

[@thunercattt6018]

This is usually said by Shawn fans

[@robgbaby]

@@thunercattt6018 or people who actually look at the numbers. I dont blame Bret specifically, but business was down when Bret took over and stayed down. Whether it was him, Diesel, Shawn or Taker being the face of the company, business was struggling until Stone Cold came around.

[@Will-h7h]

@@robgbaby Figures actually went up when Sid got the title off Shawn. The product was improving in general by this point but that's when the figures improved. 1997 was Bret's only high drawing reign, same with Undertaker and Shawns that same year. Then when Austin got the title off Shawn figures exploded. As much as I like Shaun, him losing the title seemed to always win numbers.

[@aronmaslan6604]

Hogan was huge in Canada and the UK. He drew more there than Bret could ever dream. If you're going to state a point, damn, state it with tangible points.

[@bryanblankenship3627]

"Why can't they take it for the entertainment that it is meant to be." This coming from a guy that touts the realism of angles.

[@joeygana8864]

WM9 was alright, it was way way way better than WM32,and WM16

[@2166G]

33 was the worst

[@nintendofan6099]

Joey Gana wm16 was way better what are you smoking? The four corner main event was great as well as the Hardy’s and Dudley’s match and the hardcore thing we had which was way more entertaining then it should have been.

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

32 yes, 16 was way better. Not one of the best but better than this shit

[@MarkoAnzio]

Wrestlemania 9 isn’t as bad as everyone says it is. Wrestlemania 11 is the worst mania in my opinion.

[@TiltBrook]

I don’t know why people think that was in Caesars’ parking lot? That was at the outdoor stadium that all the major prize fights were held. It was actually a big deal for them to get in there as that venue only hosted boxing events...Mike Tyson, Oscar De La Hoya, etc. it was the venue of the infamous 1993 boxing match between Evander Holyfield and Riddick Bowe where a parachuter landed in the ring during the fight

[@tonedogg9335]

Its in the staff parking flat lot behind ceasars palace.. Parking lot. Or whatever u prefer to call it.

[@RealAlphaDrum]

You've never heard of OSW have you?

[@standardofexcellence]

Puff daddy stole your kayfabe name

[@philiprobertson395]

Hogan must pose

[@Plainview-tu7xn]

I understand people saying Bret was a "mark" but I can see him feeling that a win over Hogan would be huge for his career. The problem is that Bret probably thought he was going to get cheered over Hogan. It wasnt going to happen.

[@Lubbylove89]

I loved WM 9 as a kid. I still love it but that ending will always be one of my least favorite mania moments ever.

[@LH74]

Even as a kid, I knew that the Bret-Yoko-Hogan title switch was a crappy letdown.

[@matthiasilgen1520]

Yoko vs. Hogan was the Main Event in Vienna in 93

[@biffkensingtoniii1441]

Well, the podcast DID wind up on the Network, so... Swerve?

[@danbaynes7643]

Hulk did the tour I saw it at earls court in London hulk v yoko main event

[@redfield1007]

I love this podcast.

[@johnjedennett2206]

Shame that we will miss a big chunk of 1992 it was a great year for ppv. Wm8 Bret v Piper, Macho v Flair . Summerslam @ Wembley Bret v Bulldog, Warrior v Macho both great spectacles

[@optimysticquest]

@Anonymous Anonymous because Bruce didn’t work for WWF at that time

[@J33-v5j]

1:33:45

[@VishiousLOW]

Man. Back when the show was gold!

[@vancewoodruff6472]

Basically what Bruce is saying that, tickets had been sold, but could be bought again by WWE and resold at a much higher price with Hogan as champion.

[@eddylopez6293]

I loved this WrestleMania because of the surprise at the end. I didn’t know as a 6 year old kid it was Hogan politics but the ending proved that “Anything can happen in the World Wrestling Federation” Undertaker match was garbage the only thing good about that match was the fan that flicked off Giant in the background. Michaels and Tatanka and the Steiners vs the Head Shrinkers stole the show. Doing vs Crush was good The Hogan tag team match was alright. Luger vs Perfect was a classic.

[@josephboza7448]

Hogan was a knee jerk reaction on how bad business was in 1993. I would have had Yoko keep the belt and have a decent run with it. Vince always loved Hogan in the mid to late 80s and early 90s. Wrestlemania 9 was a weird mania to watch. 9 did feel like a transition mania. I think most of us would have been happy with Yoko leaving as champion.

[@TheWildCur]

Joseph Boza The belt changed to promote a European tour. Hogan would definitley draw more internationally, than Yokozuna. Bret would become a huge star internationally, but he wasnt quite there yet.

[@josephboza7448]

Very good point. Back then 1993 was a weird year for WWE. Just couldnt believe when Bruce said Vince wanted to raise ticket prices even though they were already sold.

[@TheWildCur]

Joseph Boza Vince is a carny. I'm not surprised one bit Haha.

[@jasonrfoss248]

@@josephboza7448 he didn’t say that he wanted to raise ticket prices. He said that he wanted to add value to the tickets that were already sold. So that maybe the customers would buy more tickets to more events down the road. So that the customer can think to themselves “wow I bought a ticket for X amount of dollars thinking that Hogan wasn’t going to be there and I show up at Hogan ends up being there. So I got a great deal.”

[@RealAlphaDrum]

I don't think Conrad is getting the concept of added value. Added value doesn't mean charging more for tickets, even after the fact. You don't charge people twice for a ticket. It isn't added value for the WWF in terms of adding more gate dollars. it means giving people more bang for their buck, who already paid, by adding Hogan to the tour. What is so hard to understand about that Conrad?

[@Plainview-tu7xn]

Agreed. You can't do Hulk vs. Bret. Bret was over, but not enough to get cheered over Hogan.. And Bret would have never had got a bigger win. Any accomplishment after beating Hulk would be small in comparison.

[@craigugulini3409]

My favourite mania as a kid