STW #71: The Rock 97/98

[@ROSTAFA]

Starts at 21:00

[@brettbarreras48]

Talk about a trip down memory lane. Found the hhh vs rock ladder match at summer slam 98 on dailymotion. What a gem. Haven’t watched wrestling in some time but this podcast gave me the bug to go back and watch some classics

[@josephboza7448]

Dwayne Johnson is a first ballot hall of famer. Vince and creative in these years mapped out the Rock correctly. To me, his Summerslam ladder match vs Triple H was the match of the year for 1998. I think his 1997 was basically Vince force feeding him down our throats kinda like Roman Reigns. It wasn't until Dwayne put aspects of himself into the Rock that fans realy started to appreciate him.

[@maxray7489]

Nah he wasn’t forced like reigns... wwe had competition and the writers actually had to do something...it was the greatest time to be alive

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

*ballot

[@josephboza7448]

stupid typo my bad. hope u still understood what i was saying. ill fix it.

[@andrewberube8973]

Bruce has one hell of a memory to recall all these stories best podcast by far

[@dylanspurlock2048]

Oo

[@gingerzebell3815]

He has a book he does homework

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

He wrote stories.

[@timmarsh7257]

It would take 4 more years to hear the full story on Brock and Bruce's face injury. How time flies...

[@williamscolaro1159]

Great episode, and great run by the Rock. After this he almost got too popular and it hurt his character imo. For example, The promos became to slow and predictable bc everyone needed to be able to chant along. Watch his promo from break down 98 before the triple threat ladder match. Just raw pure gold lol.

[@stingrey1571]

i always compare rock/austin to magic/bird or gretzky/lemieaux. there is usually one superstar which dominates an era. it is very rare when you have TWO megastars at the same place and same time.

[@Gerryx]

Nadal - Federer and Ronaldo - Messi are two others

[@MaynardOwns]

Was gonna give you shit for the way you spelt Lemuix but then I realized fuck I don't know how to spell it either

[@RyanDMoore]

Tyson and... wait, just Tyson...

[@NickPoeschek]

Bruce is full of it when he says that it’s natural and healthy for the Kliq to be sabotaging Rock and other young talents. Contrast that to the stories people tell about Undertaker constantly looking out for people like Glenn Jacobs so he had people he could work with and make money with. At this point, Michaels and HHH didn’t care about the overall health of the company and having people to work with, they probably would have been happy running off Austin and Rock and losing the Monday Night War if it meant they were the only stars of the show.

[@FamousMovieScenes09]

One thing I got out of all of this was that Owen Hart was a gem of a human being and a titanic loss to the world.

[@theblindmamba6547]

Àaààaa

[@opinionsux420noonecares5]

starts around the 21:00 minute marker. nothing but shilling until then

[@Dirkified14]

opinionsux420 noonecares MVP

[@wyatthankins2544]

Thank you sir

[@Super122291]

Thanks babe

[@gregcaytonjr7167]

Thanks boss!

[@brettbarreras48]

Thanks bud

[@andrewberube8973]

Do you smellllll what the ROCK Is cooking one of the best guys ever doing promos and on the mic great time in WWE/WWF

[@mr.motivation3797]

Not really. At first? Sure. Realistically he's no Flair or Savage or even Jericho. He was waaaay too repetitive. Same shit every night. Lookin back on his stuff it's tired and not that funny. Great talent though. Good wrestler.

[@mr.motivation3797]

@J Crash yea I really just meant savage lol. Was going for a pool of talent. Wrong choices 😂 I hate flair anyway. Savage was original on many ways. Promos were on point. His wrestling style changed in several ways as well. Yea. Flair? Must have been drinking when I wrote that 😂😂😂😂

[@joeschmoe2202]

@@mr.motivation3797 what the fuck are you listening too.

[@younggrinch2826]

@@mr.motivation3797 you suck dude.nobody ever wanted your opinion anyway

[@anthonymedina3653]

Again again another good one the man who got me into wanted to pursue pro wrestling love The Rock another great one guys

[@shizzmastuhbake]

I never realized that the rock got the line “when all the smoke is clear and everyones through chanting your name” was from rocky 3 when rocky and Adrian are fighting on the beach.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

Dave Lowe I did! The minute he said it, cu I loved Rocky! I always thought it was cool when fans started chanting “Rocky, Rocky, Rocky”, and I used to think, “they can be chanting for Rocky Balboa!”

[@dwoodstwin]

You know one guy that never tried to hold down talent? The Rock

[@matsong5134]

Warren305 The Undertaker too

[@michaelpitt57]

Add Mick Foley to the list

[@suitedandbooted363]

junior galu Taker absolutely buried DDP. It was a disgrace.

[@coreysligh2006]

@@suitedandbooted363 He buried him for disrespecting his wife.

[@suitedandbooted363]

Corey Sligh that was a storyline you stupid mark

[@Kylersinjin]

The die Rocky die chant was the peak of Attitude Era

[@Eric-wu7bp]

Let’s not forget that DDP’S nickname was The People’s Champ

[@jbelton1989]

I love this podcast it's the best one out there

[@antwanwax6017]

Jason Belton Bruce not telling the truth always tho

[@joeygana8864]

Jason Belton yes sir, 83 weeks with BISCHOFF is good too, it’s him, and Conrad, Jim CORNETTEs is good too.

[@stingrey1571]

the rock is one of my favorite wrestlers ever. besides being a great wrestler, his career in and out of the ring has been an inspiration. being a black wrestler fan, practically all the guys i liked were stereotypes. The rock defied those sterotypes.

[@fuscinula]

Razor Ramon used the term "People's Champ" back at the RR 93.

[@whidoineedthis]

I can't believe this is almost 8 years ago! I remember when it first got started.... Damn

[@MikeLaundry]

Really gotta appreciate the deep thought of making the backing track "What's up" when Conrad was talking about the Dudley Boys. Most people wouldn't put it together. "I appreciate you editor man!"

[@theefficiale3900]

The Rock is a Living Legend

[@Cuddyscott84]

Holy shit I'm thinking ur still very young. Probably early 20's most ur right man 2 to read that is crazy it doesn't feel that long ago to me 98

[@shawnthegr8]

triple h the most diabolical hater in the game

[@Jason-xy5eh]

Yep .... no matter what he did there was always someone better then him in that era first it was Austin then Rock , Kurt Angle , Jericho etc.

[@daherreysso2826]

He had what it takes but he took the easy way to become main eventer with Steph and burying talents

[@ShyCashual]

Jason316 you forgot shawn,razor and diesal he had to play second fiddle for years then also Brock and smack down was kicking raw ass when he was the face of it it was so Badd they had to bring John cena to raw cuz smack down was killin em during the separate brands

[@ShyCashual]

Jason316 also it wasn’t triple h that was drawing in his first championship run it was the rock and foley chasing the championship and the roster they had

[@cibida1]

I’ve watched this Survivor Series more than any PPV ever. Unless they drowned it out I don’t remember MSG booing Rock. In fact they were chanting “Rocky Rocky Rocky” when he was the sole survivor of his team.

[@GorditoCrunch343]

Yeah, the crowd was behind him for SS 96. It was only in the following months after when they put the IC title on him that they started booing.

[@daherreysso2826]

Hellraiser Gordon he came November 96 and won the IC title February 97 so like almost three month

[@spankross9634]

Keep up the good work boys

[@seano79]

This was my favorite era of the Rock. Probably wrestling too. All his shit was new and he was fn hilarious. That I quit match with Mankind was fucking brutal.

[@daedaethomas47]

HHH is a jobber.

[@C.Romero7]

One of the best ones

[@Lance9099]

Excellent podcast! Thanks guys

[@reyjusuf]

The Rock was involved in the Miami - Colorado brawl

[@jeanmetayer482]

This is e perfect peice of history THE ATTITUDE ARC

[@connieirons8610]

56:24-56:50, I really hope Bruce remembers this in his new position at wwe. Let Roman get over on his own, or let him fail on his own, But stop trying to Force it.

[@Maradala]

Roman will never get over. Not the way hes going. Even his heel turn. Forget roman, move on

[@andrewbowyer5043]

59:09 Conrad Thompson will believe just about anything, no one has ever said that 22 year old Sean Waltman was the measuring stick for who has it and who doesn't

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

1:13:09-Hold up! Savio Vega has a win over the Rock and Stone Cold!

[@kylehill3883]

MYTH- Sapp didn't take his job at "The U". Warren was a Redshirt Freshman TE. After his Redshirt year, The D-line coach saw what he potentially had in a DT, and moved him there. Sapp was already better then most of the D-line which included The Rock. It's in the book Sapp Attack, and he talked about on a appearance of The Rich Eisen Show.

[@michaelfrazia4569]

Sapp was an absolute beast in his prime...total disrupter

[@kylehill3883]

@@michaelfrazia4569 You don't need to tell me. I'm a Bucs fan. Lol Sapp made the Tampa 2 legendary.

[@JackQSmith]

I always thought that "People's Champion" was mocking Ahmed Johnson. When Ahmed won the IC in 1996 as a face, he unironically referred to it as "The Intercontinental People's Championship" or something like that.

[@bicpapermate]

I remember, in a match against Al Snow, I saw The Rock give The People's Elbow to Head. Everybody loved it and laughed a lot. I did too. But I couldn't help thinking how appropriate that a terrible move like The People's Elbow was being used on a mannequin head.

[@CandlesByCordonBleu]

@46:15 says he was named his father first name and grandfather last name rocky mavia. Imagine if they decided to reverse it, he would been peter johnson aka the pete. First and last name penis nicknames. That would never got over

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

“From Miami Florida...Peter the Peckerwood Johnson!!” 🎼Do you smell what the Peckerwwod is cookin? The Peckerwood says...the Peckerwood says...know your role.....🎶

[@joshuabowman2970]

The reason wrestling was so bug from 97 to 07 is because its the only time vince pushed who the fans wanted and the fans decided who the top dogs were. Bruce saying the fans have to feel like theyve decided is so true 😆

[@whidoineedthis]

Did Conrad just say "xpacs in blackface here...he got special permission from mizark Henry"

[@andrewberube8973]

I can't see the Rock being president telling someone in the media to shut their piehole and know there role lol

[@DJepHex]

Can or can’t?

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

andrew berube LOL. Trump basically does that to Jim Acosta and CNN.

[@iamking7134]

Rock is the GOAT

[@danielsalinas6683]

I AM KING jericho is.

[@falseshepherd-490]

Gayest of all time?

[@keithbondar3342]

Hbk, scsa and then the rock.

[@RyanDMoore]

Maybe on promo. Steve Austin had a better in-ring psychology and work, especially pre-neck break.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

Keith Bondar Fck HBGay.

[@dariusfotouhi9689]

The Owen hotel ribs had to be hilarious to see. Wish smartphones were around back then so we could see video of it.

[@Gorski122]

Biggest STAR ⭐️ not wrestling star but overall star ever to come out of wrestling

[@markcoughlan6863]

Can anybody tell me the peice of music playing at 1 hour and 59 minutes please? During the sheets commercial

[@BlindassassinMGTOW]

This podcast rocks!!!!!

[@joemama7163]

My all-time favorite wrestler.

[@Ray-iz4kg]

Was Rock a member of the 'cream team'?

[@TheChrisGaither]

Anyone know the acoustic song, used during the Brooke linen commercial?

[@warwickben]

Time stamp.

[@seano79]

Idk why but hearing Conrad say Mizark cracked me up.

[@brandonford4474]

They play Corny's favorite song "Geen Grass & Hi Tides"

[@seano79]

It was the General Sullivan Bridge in Dover New Hampshire. I used to drive over it everyday to work and never knew until I was randomly watching an old Raw on the network and they were at UNH up the road that week.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

Sean H Thanks for the info!

[@IMNOTMEAD]

Grew up in Portsmouth and my uncle came home telling me that Austin threw the belt off the bridge and I always thought he was messing with me. Thanks for validating my childhood.

[@seano79]

@@IMNOTMEAD Oh hell yeah! lol

[@MikeyP1983]

Over The Edge: In Your House was May 31st 1998 not May 3rd 1998

[@BishopM1]

Rock > Austin

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

The People's Elbow is only as silly a finish as the Leg Drop

[@fc775]

Everyone needs to stop talking about the people's elbow it was great move

[@muzz5466]

It was a joke move done to try and make Taker break character on house shows but it got over so stuck with it

[@EddieHypemanHearn]

Is it any more unbelievable than irish whip? A fundamental move in all pro wrestling matches.

[@daherreysso2826]

Geoff lol his finisher was the rock bottom so it was cool and adding the people’s elbow was the icing in the cake

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

Actually the (Hogan) legdrop was a great move...when done, dropped across the neck, it paralyzes the opponent from the neck down for at least 5 seconds.

[@wright1wright]

My all time favorite wrestler

[@seeyouinhellyeowie3865]

Rock & stone cold sing along 😂😂

[@tnadrg1982]

It was the old silver ic title that they used in the wm 10 ladder match

[@philjoyce1548]

Conrad- "was Shawn ever a dick" Bruce- " not that I recall"

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

Pretty much!

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

57:40-NO ONE ever “fell in love” with John Cena.

[@hiteshkalhan1338]

not going to do Rock '99-'04?...lol

[@BryanThompson99]

I'm sure they'll do it at some point in long form.

[@RyanDMoore]

Rumor and innuendo (aka speculation), I'm sure they will.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

I wish they would have mentioned how Owen came to be with the Nation of Domination.

[@kingtit5006]

SPENDING LONG DAYS WORKING HARD ON THE GO BUT THE HANDS ON THE CLOCK KEEP SPINNING TOO SLOW, I CAN'T WAIT TO BE ALONE WITH MY BABY TONIGHIIIITTEE

[@adamwitner4410]

Anyone know the song that starts at 17:00?

[@theoldhag674]

Green grass and high tides. The outlaws... new age outlaws get it

[@Maradala]

Man conrad really thinks he knows anything about the business 20 years ago. He is really sad.

[@radbeaton9711]

Love when he pops the top

[@stereanboltagon3422]

💪🏻 🤠 🤘🏻

[@mjolden]

Take a shot every time Bruce botches a word.

[@johnjg88]

Austin threw the belt off the bridge in Portland, Maine.

[@jacksizzle8937]

Thank God rock didn't get hurt because what happened to stone cold was an anomaly and exception to the success rule

[@djj1518]

What abt Haku

[@michaelpitt57]

Chat me up

[@Juwan621]

You should do a show on Smoky Mountain wrestling

[@Kylersinjin]

You should check out Jim Cornette's show. He goes through the history of SMW

[@smashwrestlermachinexzibtt6707]

The Rock is Funny i away like the Rock

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

Chavito for Secretary of the Treasury 2020

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

Conrad...a typical Gump...Bama fans always talk about that 1993 Sugar Bowl anytime the U is mentioned...they always seem to forget about that 1992 Sugar Bowl when Miami beat that a$$ to win the 1991 National Title.

[@MrBgood84]

Nobody cares

[@juliansegura9629]

You know Bruce, for a guy that does such great impressions, your JR impression is terrible.

[@shrmnpatterson]

No they didn't fall in love with John cena people still hated him and they lost millions of fans because of it viewership has been way down people hate him

[@Maradala]

Conrad really hates hhh.

[@whidoineedthis]

RIP AFA N SIKA

[@Difrentstyles]

1:45:35

[@dallasroy3003]

Tide goes in, tide goes out. Ect ect. VaDER IN S GINNA DO A MOOOOONSALT! AAHHHWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKO!

[@samuelquintanilla6338]

My favorite era of the rock. His early heel days are glorious.

[@springer90]

What's the acoustic song during the Brooke Linen add?

[@FPB1414]

I saw a video around of rocks first ish peoples elbow and it was on hhh. Might be another with taker but one i saw was with hhh

[@daherreysso2826]

His first was in a house show against Ken Shamrock

[@Maradala]

And rock just bought the xfl...

[@chrishowe4009]

I wish Conrad got shit right. He said Taker joined the ministry in 98 before The Rock Bottom Ppv. Completely wrong!!!! Taker didn't join the corporation until mid 99 when the corporate ministry was born. You host a podcast. Get your info correct Conrad.

[@keithbondar3342]

The rock was one of the best heels didn't like him as a baby face.

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

“She pooted!!”

[@fc775]

The rock is the true goat. Not Austin not Hogan

[@jaserogers997]

#ProceedsForProteins

[@chrisortiz8072]

when they said what do you think the 1 thing the rock had was.. and I thought the real answer was Brian..........

[@brandonford4474]

I wish I could hit a dis like with every add

[@antwanwax6017]

Love the show but Bruce not telling the truth bout everything wrestler have came out and said bout this show not hatin just saying

[@St_AngusYoung]

I'll take Bruce Prichards version over yours any day of the week.Your credibility went out the window the moment you said "not telling the truth bout everything wrestler have came out and said bout this show not hatin just saying" lol stay in school dummy

[@mitchconner1132]

Your an idiot

[@matsong5134]

Antwan wax at the end of the day, Bruce was in the inner circle making decisions and booking matches at the owner’s home. I’ll take his word over anyone else’s.

[@shrmnpatterson]

But he's not black

[@TheTEAMBUTLER]

Did the rock do drugs???????????

[@Stevehug83]

No he was pretty clean apart from steroids. Didn't really drink or party, similar to Triple H just less of an asshole

[@evilbanjos5768]

I'm a jay bro

[@dlopour88]

i think the rock turning heel at ss 98 was terrible and typical of russo's writing of making the opponent of the heels the audience, rather than the faces. rock should have stayed face, got screwed in the semi finals, taker and mankind should have been in the final and undertaker should have sided with mcmahon with kane screwing mankind in the main event. undertaker and kane become the two main heels of the corporation, along with paul bearer being mr mcmahon's new close business associate. the wwf really undersold how much people really wanted to see mankind win the belt as a face and the main event at mania should have been mankind against undertaker, with mankind finally getting his due as champion, while stone cold at mania finally gets the thing he really wants; a match with mcmahon, and the rock faces kane for the number one contender for the belt at backlash, kane wins with rock getting screwed again, and then the rock goes the next year battling uphill to finally get the belt and a match at the next mania. that story actually makes sense and doesnt have all these ridiculous russo inconsistencies that involve the rock intercepting a nightstick, that apparently was on purpose, getting his ass kicked for 6 weeks prior, while it was all apparently not real within the confides of the story, since mcmahon was planning secretly along with the rock that the screw was in at survivor series. just typical moron shit from russo wanting nothing more than to dupe the fans than to actually write a story that makes sense and makes use of all the wrestlers involved within this story to the fullest, like mankind and kane. i dont think any superstar saw their value dip more in any era, than kane's did from 1998 to 1999.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

dave lopour I didn’t read this whole thing, but God...Deadly Games, Rock turning heel, the way he caught Bossman’s nightstick...THAT WAS INCREDIBLE!