STW #72: The New Age Outlaws

On this episode: "Oh, you didn't know?!" Bruce and Conrad proudly bring to you three hours about one of the greatest tag teams in the woooooorld, "the Badass" Billy Gunn and "the Roaddog" Jesse James -- the New Age Outlaws! How could the Roadie and Rockabilly ever possibly compete for screen time with Stone Cold, the Rock, Triple H, the Undertaker, Mankind, and a locker room filled with Hall of Famers? Bruce explains how an unlikely pairing became bonafide superstars during the biggest boom in wrestling history! How did James get back in "good graces" with Vince after walking out with Jarrett? Rockabilly with Honky, who booked this ish?! Who saw something in this pairing? Where did the intro come from? Did the Road Warriors have an issue with putting over this new pairing? Plus you'll get more details about the Dumpster Match at Mania 14, the first major RAW after Mania, DX invading Nitro, the DX break-ups and reunions, addiction issues, some resentment in the locker room over Roaddog's push, Austin refusing to work a match with Gunn, the Rock sealing Gunn's fate as a singles star, Mr. Ass, Chyna, Billy G, K-Kwik, and somehow we wind up learning about what Vince McMahon watches on television. PLUS a major announcement closes the show: a WORLD CHAMPION joins us in Houston for our live show in two weeks. Join us at www.BoxOfGimmicks.com!
Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard is an audio podcast that discusses topics, events, wrestlers and memorable moments through the lens of former WWE executive Bruce Prichard co-hosted by Conrad Thompson.
The show was launched in August 2016 on MLW Radio. The episodes typically range from 2 hours to 4 hours in length, and include discussions about previous WWE pay-per-views and former WWE wrestlers.
Time Stamps:
1:40 Reactions to last week's episode
3:36 Something to Wrestle with...New Day
9:20 Are Conrad and Bruce being paid by the WWE?
12:18 November's show schedule
19:21 New Age Outlaws
20:08 Bringing the Roadie back
21:40 Road Dogg can sing
24:18 Road Dogg: American Hero
27:48 Armstrong family legacy
32:03 Smoking Gunns
36:30 Rockabilly
43:13 Forming the Outlaws
55:05 New names
57:34 Tag Team Champions of the WOOOOOORRRRRLLLLD
1:00:50 Chainsaw Charlie
1:08:26 Chainsaw and Cactus take a dumpster dive
1:16:35 How tough is Terry Funk?
1:21:48 Joining DX
1:28:48 Invading Nitro
1:39:29 The famous introduction
1:42:29 DX turns babyface
1:52:14 Billy teams with Austin
1:55:59 Bruce's thoughts on 3 ways (matches)
1:57:15 The Oddities
2:05:06 What does Vince watch on television?
2:07:46 ICP
2:12:15 Testing singles runs
2:18:22 Road Dogg's personal struggles
2:28:56 Road Dogg wins IC Title
2:38:20 Mr. Ass
2:41:20 Breaking up
2:49:15 King Ass
2:52:25 Austin turns down working with Billy
2:55:37 The beginning of the end for Billy's solo run
3:05:36 Reuniting
3:20:56 K-Kwik
3:29:03 The Outlaws legacy
3:33:20 Bruce's top 5 tag teams
3:36:21 Facebook questions Visit BlueChew.com and get your first shipment FREE when use our special promo code WRESTLE - Just pay $5 shipping! Logos and album art by Dave Silva
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[@ROSTAFA]

Starts at 19:30

[@geogonz352]

These always help thanks 🤘🏽

[@subarashiiashi3894]

Thank you

[@ROSTAFA]

@@subarashiiashi3894 I accept all currency lol jk

[@subarashiiashi3894]

@@ROSTAFA I might be able to venmo an IOU

[@packpock4369]

Probably one of the greatest tag teams in history. When they were over, they were way over there.

[@TheRustedShackleford]

I remember Bart laying Billy out across the top rope. Young me was absolutely convinced it was real. Been a Billy Gunn fan ever since.

[@dustinrhodes4793]

Houston Asterisks World Series Champions*

[@bigdrules]

They didn't use it a lot, but the Outlaws did have a team finisher, that being the spike piledriver.

[@bdr113080]

I remember them doing that

[@SamGeeves]

Iu

[@thencb41]

Starts at 19:30. You’re welcome.

[@jackiethompson7446]

the ncb41 for what Man the damn thing has the timestamp in the description... you're welcome?

[@thencb41]

jackie thompson the description has been edited since the day it was uploaded.

[@TheRedneckAtheist]

Not to mention that the timestamps don't work in the smartphone app, so thank you.

[@paulwarwick1511]

Thanks 👌

[@vapeymcvape5000]

Thanks, Dude =)

[@fluffyfeetbmf]

This was back when wrestling was great, and me an my friends would start the oh you didn’t know whenever we walked into any place. Best tag team champs ever.

[@garybennett9015]

I saw them in 98 in Cedar Rapids Iowa Billy Gunn was a lot bigger in person then he looked on TV

[@rackballjones6585]

Prove it

[@whidoineedthis]

Thats what everyone says. Yes es huge, hes a pro wrestler. A Real one

[@Stonymoj]

Just so everyone knows, it was Sean Waltman that started suck it. He started it in WCW and Hall and Nash started doing it. Then Waltman went to The WWF and The New Age Outlaws and DX started doing it. The more you know!

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Stony420 it's a shame who couldn't reinvent himself after DX. Dudes just been the same character since the nwo.

[@MeNoSpeakJibberish]

HHH & HBK were telling Sgt Slaughter & other wrestlers like Brett Hart to suck it before X-Pac came back to WWF tho

[@dkres82]

X-Pac started the crotch chop yes, the suck it part was added by Shawn and Triple H, and that was 6-9 months before he came back the night after Mania.

[@randallrichardson9693]

"Bret I have to words for ya...suck it...and I have more words...." HBK told Bret to suck it in 97....

[@gojags_3228]

If you listen closely bret or owen say "you guys can suck it" to hhh shawn as he sits at the table with jr off mic on a hot mic they then repeat it just cant remember which raw its 97 im sure

[@op2001]

I lost it when Vince McMahon is describing Mr. Ass lmao

[@MeNoSpeakJibberish]

1:17:10 awesome story about the legendary Terry Funk 😂 such a good impression too

[@JUVI9596]

Greatest thing ever when they put cactus and Charlie in the dumpster and tipped it over the edge of the high stage. Best single angle in a long time at the time. cool to see everyone to pretend to break character and even Vince came out and gave them a dressing down. I was sold on these troublemakers permanently then

[@kylekoontz4507]

Love this show but if i hear chat me up one more time im gonna tear my eyebrows off lol

[@chadpugh1490]

Chat me up, rumor and innuendo, I love u for that, in ma head, Prichard's JR impression, Prichard's Cornette impression, Prichard laughing and talking at the same time. Oh and the worst of em all..."Meltzer said". Love the show.

[@whidoineedthis]

Chad Pugh what say you

[@toma.4808]

Chat me up. Hypothetically, what would it sound like if jerry jarrett said "chat me up"

[@henhowell2433]

@@toma.4808 you know..

[@thomascrowley9122]

@@SomethingToWrestle m

[@Mike-ky9jz]

I cant believe they didn't touch on the week after the dumpster incident...when the Outlaws did a reenactment with the dolls....funniest skit in WWE history..🤣🤣🤣

[@WhatAboutall]

AT 1:33:00 DX would have got their ass beat if WCW opened up and let out Meng & Barbarian alone. They had allot of badasses working for WCW at the time.

[@un-realism7813]

Is there a "Feed me to Meng" T-Shirt?

[@Stonymoj]

Umm Road Dogg cones from a wrestling family. He obviously knows more than you're giving him credit for.

[@lxxredxxl9587]

Hey road dogg it's "oh you didn't know, your ASS better call somebody" say ass it's not going to hurt you!!!

[@michaelfrazia4569]

Terry funk is a straight up bad ass...his age...the cumulative abuse...no wonder I loved those guys as a kid. thanks for the memories legend

[@maxwelljacobfreedom]

I cant stand Conrad and his woke Twitter agenda that he needs to bring up every episode

[@SpectrumGamer29]

Road Dogg was a better worker than Billy Gunn? Bruce Prichard is literally the only person I've ever heard say that. RD was the personality and charisma, but Gunn was the solid worker.

[@darnelldarden9429]

Alexander Hancock Yeah he’s bugging. Gunn was definitely better in the ring and Road Dogg made his living as the mouthpiece

[@dalynsanders]

Gunn=better physical worker Rdog=better overall worker Omo

[@kevp8485]

From what I remember watching as a teenager I'd have to agree with you. Billy was the better worker, but Road Dogg was the personality and voice of the team. He was also the one that really put them on the map when he'd be on the mic before they even left the backstage area. He was the first one to do this schtick successfully and it really got over with the fans.

[@brandonwheeler6612]

Road dog was the better seller but billy looked much better in the ring.

[@guyincognito5706]

Alexander Hancock the thing is Billy couldn’t work solo because of his asthma.

[@peanut389]

3:03:25 GIMME THE BELT I'LL BEAT EVERYBODY

[@johnjg88]

Austin gets pretty much all of the credit for winning the war with WCW for WWF. But The New Age Outlaws, Mick Foley, and The Rock played extremely important supporting roles in this happening. Bret Hart being a heel was awesome as well.

[@blueblur2273]

Rock and Foley didn't start getting hot until the Fall of 98. WWF overtook WCW in the ratings in the Spring of 98 mostly due to Austin and DX.

[@33malone]

Well done, Bruce & Conrad! Really enjoy the show!

[@Maradala]

This is a great example about how conrad claims he does research but apparently doesn't watch the TV show. Or he would ask such stupid questions.

[@mrrvc6950]

Beautiful Bobby def had a singles run in the mid 90s in WCW

[@aaronjoe3828]

TINKlE TINKLE PISS GODAMMIT!!! 🤣🤣

[@lewjones3]

Let truth be told, Billy Gunn is one of the most athletic and agile wrestlers of all time

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Lewis Jones Billy Gunn agile? No

[@chadwickcantwell6315]

He just wasn't good on the mic was his down fall

[@andreholly2294]

Not really

[@davidgraham8299]

Every cruiserweight in the world is cracking up with laughter. 😂

[@m00rtin4]

The thing with tnao was that they weren't good enough to go solo....billy Gunn is a proof to that. Same goes for hardyz and somewhat Dudley's. I think edge and Christian are the one who broke the mold. Both guys main eventers. Bully ray was great. And then we have JBL, my personal fav in terms of heels. I don't think Jeff was main eventer even tho he was more or less around 08, 09. But he has always been a awful promo. That's the other strange thing with tnao, they could do a good promo...together at least, but solo?

[@bdr113080]

The first time I went to a WWF show was in either 1999 or 2000 and I can’t remember. I live in North Carolina and before the Monday night wars the WWF didn’t come here all the time, it might be once every three years or something , But the new age outlaws were a big part of that show and those two have always been my favorite WWF tag team of all time.

[@311JW]

I live in Atlanta and Raw didn't come until the war was basically over in October of 99 but it was glorious... pile of dog shit and all

[@panagenesis2695]

Road Dog was my favorite DX member. Didn't know his brother Brad passed. God rest his soul and help his family.

[@billyhill2517]

Re-listening.... boy this astros celebration didn't age well 😅

[@joemama7163]

Love this podcast but since when is a jeep a tank? DX was driving a jeep Bruce.

[@marklupo3441]

They all say that and that annoys me

[@anthonydisalvatore637]

I finally got a chance to listen to that song Bruce keeps singing on here lol. God they played that video EVERY week but it was pretty catchy. Road Dogg can belt it man!

[@andrewberube8973]

U better call somebodddy! Best tag team of the late 90s era

[@tomservo4299]

Shuli? .... like stern show shuli?

[@theguy-ks4oi]

Bro wtf lol

[@stevenimeson902]

I went to vaule village the other day and in the toys I found 1998 ba Billy gun and road dog , both in a plastic baggy together, I wonder if the employee knew they were tag team partners , had both these figs as a kid ,glad to have em back in my collection

[@mikehicks304]

My favorite tag team of all time! Never forget when My grandmother dropped off me and my brother for haircuts, he talked our barber into cutting "SUCK IT" in the back of his head. Needless to say when my grandmother seen it she took my brother back in cut a promo on the barber and had him shave his head! LMAO 🤣

[@nickbryant91]

I remember watching Billy gunn do an interview after he won the king of the ring. After every word he'd take a deep breath. I always thought that was interesting. Now I see why.

[@daedaethomas47]

Crack

[@folkrocksage9666]

Roaddog had decent sized guns. He kind of had a Raven physique.

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Kev P raven used to have a good physique back in the day but drugs and alcohol took its toll. Billy had a good physique but he definitely wasn't shredded.

[@JonathanHassingerChannel]

“Ahh Cartman! You gave him a name!” Dude, Conrad, Vince’s TV interests needs to be a whole show.

[@PatrickGreeneFearwriter]

The Outlaws, in fact pretty much all of DX -- I just never really got the appeal. Billy might be the most viable of all of them. Otherwise -- what's so great?

[@shadowlazers]

You know Road dog was great when I was a younger person but his career probably could have lasted a little longer if he ever did any work in the gym I mean these guys are playing roles like actors you should somewhat look the part you don't need to be jacked like the Ultimate Warrior Road dog was flabby and looked lazy

[@Y2JLionHeart]

I thought the Mr. Ass thing was a good idea.

[@ddavis8988]

1:39:00 I remember the Outsiders had a tag match match before where Scottt attempted pin Nash to win. I believe that was sometime.in 96 or 97.

[@sjlegend4259]

Oh you didn't know???? Your ass better call SOMEBODYYYYYY

[@spiritsplice]

"anybody who ever did laundry and stocked shelves in the military is a hero" *eyeroll*

[@folkrocksage9666]

Billy Gunn was a big guy with a smaller guys move set. He's got to be at least 6ft 5.

[@mike000395]

I'm 18 minutes in and no show yet. Ads and bs. C'mon guys

[@dallasroy3003]

Phenomenal. Not quite perfect, pretty close tho.

[@tylerrubchinuk6778]

Road Warrior Hawk: Well Mr Dogg and Welllll Mr Ass 😂

[@smith8488]

Another great episode.

[@antoniusjohnson3824]

I thought Billy Gunn was a better worker than Road Dogg.

[@justincase813]

Weird how most fans think so but most of those in the business thought dogg was better. But I mostly agree.

[@mikewilliams8816]

A lot of chat me ups this episode

[@aldobarovero2807]

at 2:14:30, Conrad says Chyna won a royal rumble. I think he meant a battle royale.

[@justincase813]

Nope it was a royal rumble, they introduced someone every 2 minutes.

[@lewjones3]

I liked "The One" gimmick.. his music was good and that finisher was good

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

Love hearing about the Astros winning knowing now they cheated hahaha. Also Bruce doing the Vince voice talking about pias had me literally laughing out loud. Funniest shit ive heard on him do hands down

[@jamalonley201]

ECW top 5 1- the dudleys 2- Public Enemy 3- the eliminators 4- impact players 5- RVD and Sabu

[@dkres82]

I'd put The Gangstas in over Public Enemy but yeah I agree with the rest of your choices.

[@lordtrigon1733]

Pit Bulls?

[@stevenkunzer9027]

Love the green Jello background

[@KPdewstar]

Feed me to Ming

[@sketchstevens5859]

Road Dogg is a vet?

[@warwickben]

Yeah some of his tattoos are a giveaway

[@shawnmckahan165]

Great show

[@sharonbreeding7471]

You

[@keithcrockett8986]

1:33:15.... Funny how ROAD DOGG was willong to get stretched by "BIG BROTHER BRAD"....LOL

[@l.j.garcia1042]

Unpopular opinion, but I don't know what the hell it was about Rockabilly that always made me laugh and love Billy in that character. Just that he was doing all these dances like a dork and having a meanstreak then smashing a guitar over someone's head was always great. I liked it during it's brief run. The 2 themes songs for Rockabilly were hilarious too.

[@jamesbonnen]

10:40 Funny how times goes and things change. Lol

[@Czah5]

I remember hating them so much and then somehow hating them even more when I started to realize how genuinely good they were as a tag team.

[@BrandonMobley614]

1:08:52

[@anthonymedina3653]

Wasn't sure if this one was going to be good but I'm glad I was wrong another great one good job guys alot of things I didn't know about these two

[@UncledadBFD]

Am I not the only one with a blown mind from the suggestion Billy Gunn is the same size as Hulk Hogan?!

[@kevinmetalandhorrorexperie8554]

About 15 inches 😝

[@jaredbrady5566]

I chortle every time they say: "Tank"

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

1:39:32-Actually it DOESNT makes sense! Once you tag out, in theory you are no longer a legal man; therefore, you cannot be pinned or you cannot be the one doing the pinning.

[@justincase813]

You clearly didn’t watch, it was someone else who tagged them in at the time to try and get them to fight each other. It created the outlaw rule that you can’t pin your own teammate.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

1:36:57-He slips in a Jim Cornette “Goddam”.

[@dmrogers7713]

I still have one of those Al Snow figures, somewhere.

[@mad4669]

Is there a "well, you know" t shirt?

[@michaelpitt57]

Bruce said on the Demolition episode they are the no.1 tag team but on here doesnt even rank them in the top 5 how the hell does that work?!

[@davidgraham8299]

Maybe he changed his mind, or simply just thought about it.

[@springer90]

Road Dogg is the main reason why WWE Sucks now!

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

springer 90 he works on the smackdown brand not raw lol... Plus fun fact Vince has final say you do realize that.

[@davidgraham8299]

Vince was rewriting everything.

[@abrahammarley8090]

Oh you didn't Know

[@jamalonley201]

WCW top five 1- Harlem Heat 2- the Road Warriors 3- The Steiner Brothers 4- The Outsiders 5- Luger and sting

[@cameraguygimmick4446]

Jamal Onley lmao wot

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

How bout the Freebirds, Midnight Express, Rock n Roll Express, Hollywood Blonds?!?!? I’d put ALL those teams over the Outsiders AND Harlem Heat!

[@peanut389]

39:26 will never get old

[@peanut389]

3:40:50 3:43:42 LOL

[@kreamkorn420]

hart foundation? outsiders man

[@mad4669]

Beans "the more you eat them the more you fart" Hart

[@cesareborgia7689]

A Doot Doot Doot

[@jamalonley201]

And tag teams that don't make the list 1 Owen Hart and the British bulldog 2- the World's Greatest Tag Team 3- Owen Hart and Yokozuna 4- Kane and X-Pac 5- the quebecers and money Inc

[@kreamkorn420]

Dat intro 15/10. ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages. degeneration x proudly brings to you it's tag team champions of the WOOOOOOOOORLD the road dog Jesse James, bad ass Billy gun the new age outlaws. timeless man

[@jamalonley201]

1- The Dudley Boyz 2 -edge and Christian 3-hardys 4-new age outlaws 5-apa

[@xavierjones2970]

@@therealsashagray The Dudley Boyz have won more tag team titles than any other tag team in wrestling history. So check your stats before you say that it is a shitlist

[@michaelpitt2330]

Chat me up

[@terrybrown5402]

Best teams of the 90's 1. New age outlaws 2.edge&christian/hardy boyz/dudley boys. 3.rock and sock connection 4.harlem heat 5. The outsiders hall & Nash! Those were the best teams in the 90's Era hands down.

[@footguy215]

Terry Brown Outsiders#1 Dudleys are #2 New Age Outlaws #3 Harlem Heat #4 and Rock and Sock #5.

[@terrybrown5402]

Joseph Selser you named the same teams I did just in a different order. But they are all still top 5.lol

[@terrybrown5402]

Joseph Selser but the roadwarriors were the best team ever.

[@footguy215]

Terry Brown well, its a 90s list. lol. Road Warriors? No argument from me on that.

[@terrybrown5402]

Joseph Selser yes it is,it's my comment and I clearly listed best teams of the 90's at the top. And you only listed 90's teams as well. So I don't see the point of the argument. Lol

[@murderinc.hunting7686]

21:02 hahaha

[@Jean_Claude_Van_Damme]

Do an impression free show

[@carlhess5707]

Best ring entrance ever? Wtf?!?!?! The new age outlaws?!?!? 🤦‍♂️

[@tnadrg1982]

Eddie didn't break his arm he dislocated his elbow in that match

[@aronmaslan6604]

New Age Outlaws were an example of how the Attitude Era could make anyone into stars. Two journeyman mid carders, and that's being generous, started swearing, crotch chopping and what ever Jerry Springer garbage they did. Boom, overnight they were stars! A terrible time.

[@Wesker-bg1rn]

Never knew road Dogg was such a real life badass.

[@jamesomensen1292]

Two of the absolute worst wrestlers of all time

[@jamesomensen1292]

@Wild Hearts I am serious. It's always been my opinion on them. The braided hair and the ghetto dance acting like another race. The smoking Gunn's were a joke and we're only pushed because they were the only team and Brian James was just a roadie. The weakest of of the Armstrong wrestlers. This team only shined because there were no other options. When Bret Hart left WWF it went to Hell.

[@davidgraham8299]

​@@jamesomensen1292 Bret leaving essentially SAVED wwe

[@drkuhl5076]

This channel is soo great! thank you guys for making my workdays a little easier with you're great insights and humor

[@chadpugh1490]

Why does it not surprise me that McMahon is a Redskins fan... jeez... HAD respect for Vince.

[@eddie9244]

Chad Pugh you lose respect for him cuz he likes the redskins? 😂 wtf

[@andrewkennedy-reagan3289]

Chad Pugh you're an idiot. You dislike him because of his football team-pathetic.

[@chadpugh1490]

Andrew Kennedy-Reagan most definitely. Don't like it? Your problem.

[@andrewkennedy-reagan3289]

Chad Pugh incorrect. You being a crybaby bitch is not my problem. It's yours.

[@Super122291]

I’m a redskins fan too chad ... suck it !

[@greysonsygarza687]

No Bruce, the real reason you're kissing RoadDoggs ass is because of his position in WWE right now

[@jamalonley201]

Mega tag teams 1- The Brothers of Destruction 2- Rock and sock 3- Stone Cold Steve Austin and Triple H 4- Shawn Michaels and John Cena 5- Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Jamal Onley you had a good list but John and Shawn a mega tagteam? No hell no

[@junegiovanni6475]

Amazing tag teams in the late 1990's in The Attitude Era, 1# The LOD 2# The new age outlaws 3# The headbangers 4# The Godwins 5# APA/ acolytes 6# The Hardys 7# Edge and Christan the brood 8# The dudleys 9# Skull & Eightball 10# DX

[@chadpugh1490]

Man, 6 outta your 10 are overrated.

[@maxxdahl6062]

Horrible list.

[@whidoineedthis]

Just naming people...smdh

[@rumtuckskatter]

The Headbangers and amazing don't belong anywhere near each other. But yeah there were a bunch of incredible tag teams during that period. Too bad Vince doesn't give tag teams the push/chance he used because there's no reason why we couldn't have a bunch of great entertaining tag teams these days too.

[@henhowell2433]

Number one is the Brothers of Destruction

[@keithkelly7885]

screw the midnight express

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

keith kelly I feel like you're opinion matters less simply due to that southern flag in that pic.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

WHAT?????????

[@chadpugh1490]

Not a fan of these extended shows where Conrad reads from a long list of matches and Bruce comments on each one. Too structured. I'd rather have a about an hour or two show where they discuss key moments and matches and more or less shoot talk on the career.

[@Stonymoj]

Chad Pugh that's why you don't have a hit show lol. Let us know when it works out for you.

[@chadpugh1490]

Stony420 well you know.

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Chad Pugh what happen when would probably be more up you're alley man.