STW #92: WWE WrestleMania XIX (19)!

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Something To Wrestle With Bruce Prichard

Something To Wrestle With Bruce Prichard

6 жыл бұрын

On this episode: Is WrestleMania 19 the most underrated WrestleMania of all time? It's Brock's first WrestleMania and he's in the main event for the World Title. It's Steve Austin's last WrestleMania and the finale of the Austin-Rock trilogy. It's Shawn Michael's first WrestleMania in five years and he stole the show with Chris Jericho. This is the most "stacked" roster in company history. Jeff Hardy, Batista, Randy Orton, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, and John Cena are all on the roster but not on the show. With this loaded roster, why was business down? The buy-rate was down 36% from 2002 but why? Were fans not ready for Angle-Lesnar in the top spot? Did the Undertaker not have a big enough match? Was Hogan-Vince what people saw as the focal point? Had the Rock-Austin feud lost some of its luster? Of course, that night will mostly be remembered for the Shooting Star Press in the main event. We cover that in great detail including never before heard details of the fallout of that evening for both men and you won't believe it. Plus we examine the unbelievable choices the WWE made regarding the Booker T-Triple H storyline to build to WrestleMania, the silliness of the Miller Lite Cat Fight Girls, Torrie's Playboy, the WWE theme ride in Niagra Falls, why the World finally closed, how Austin and Hogan got along, the Flair-Bischoff fight, the Heyman-Gewirtz fight, Shawn's relationship with Vince, Jeff Hardy's diminishing interest in wrestling, Tommy Dreamer on the writing team, the original plans for John Cena at WrestleMania, Kevin Kelly, more on Nathan Jones, the rise of Benoit and Guerrero, how the plans came together at the last minute for Piper, who was considered for that spot, and the unbelievable stuff we saw Vince McMahon do in his match against Hulk Hogan. But most of all we discuss the unfortunate sendoff of "Stone Cold" as it's the retirement match that nobody knew about.
Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard is an audio podcast that discusses topics, events, wrestlers and memorable moments through the lens of former WWE executive Bruce Prichard co-hosted by Conrad Thompson.
The show was launched in August 2016 on MLW Radio. The episodes typically range from 2 hours to 4 hours in length, and include discussions about previous WWE pay-per-views and former WWE wrestlers.
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@homerjfong4494
@homerjfong4494 6 жыл бұрын
The Booker T/Triple H stuff was a black eye on an otherwise fantastic show. Booker T not going over that night was a mistake. Even if Triple H won the belt back the following month.
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. No matter how much Bruce danced around it, there was no excuse for Booker not winning that night.
@pikkon899
@pikkon899 6 жыл бұрын
+Tim Puckett But then everyone would have complained that Booket T's champion run was too short by that logic. You really can't please the wrestling fan at the end of the day. Honestly, back then, I wasn't even paying attention to that angle anyway. I was more focused on Brock and Steve Austin.
@eddead4235
@eddead4235 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Puckett u cant say black eye
@jhot2477
@jhot2477 6 жыл бұрын
let's be real, not putting the strap on booker t was a good idea, the belt is supposed to represent some class, like orndorff said, fucking mark henry as your champion? it's ridiculous, so people need to shut up about booker t, his gimmick was a joke, the fucking king booker bullshit, the sucka shit lol please
@Genolocs
@Genolocs 6 жыл бұрын
JHOT247 yet Triple H was handed that title. you can't say Booker didn't deserve it. get outta here
@thetlamb
@thetlamb 3 жыл бұрын
Man listening to the stories about Brock, Angle, and Austin during WM19 really sobers you on the injuries that wrestling can cause.
@DyingBeauty1
@DyingBeauty1 6 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Conrad that the HBK/Jericho match is underrated. Many people love that match and pick it as the best match of that show. I think Jericho nailed it in his book and I agree with what he wrote.
@keithcrockett8986
@keithcrockett8986 6 жыл бұрын
DyingBeauty1 IT WAS UNDERRATED.... JUST BECAUSE OF THE NOSTALGIA OF VINCE/HULK & ANGLE VS BROCK... THE JERRICHO/HBK MATCH WAS OVERLOOKED
@DyingBeauty1
@DyingBeauty1 6 жыл бұрын
It's not underrated anymore at least. People love that match and tend to pick it as the best one of that show as time went on. It happens lol.
@daleharris3809
@daleharris3809 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair this entire show is somewhat overlooked in terms of quality. But I think this match is probably the first one that everyone thinks of when this PPV comes up, except maybe Austin's swan song.
@RealAlphaDrum
@RealAlphaDrum 2 жыл бұрын
17, 18, 19. The trifecta of good WrestleManias
@fmthebaron
@fmthebaron 6 жыл бұрын
HBK/Jericho was definitely the best match and this was my favorite Wrestlemania ever.
@standardofexcellence
@standardofexcellence 6 жыл бұрын
fmthebaron better workrate than 17 and the emergence of the ruthless agression era
@LumpyAdams
@LumpyAdams 6 жыл бұрын
robert shelton yeah because the ruthless aggression era was awesome lol.
@aotp36
@aotp36 6 жыл бұрын
actually it was. my favorite era by far
@LumpyAdams
@LumpyAdams 6 жыл бұрын
aotp36 ahh.. no. It was terrible.
@jimjim292
@jimjim292 6 жыл бұрын
Only a mongoloid would like that match.
@Jtower1967
@Jtower1967 6 жыл бұрын
Actual show at 9:00
@ogarstyle
@ogarstyle 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you kind sir...
@jamesvigg2680
@jamesvigg2680 5 жыл бұрын
Bump
@elberno4243
@elberno4243 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. These intros are insufferable
@johnjandoh6732
@johnjandoh6732 3 жыл бұрын
@@elberno4243 Nah they're cool. They have some interesting stories that have never been told anywhere else.
@elberno4243
@elberno4243 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnjandoh6732 glad you enjoy. Each to their own, I used to listen fully, but the intros got so long and became more self aggrandizing and off topic. Just my option bud. Maybe "insufferable" was a tad hyperbolic. Maybe "wearisome" is more appropriate. You are correct that occasionally there is a little extra insight, but if a cake baking video takes 9 minutes before mentioning cake.... They lose me. Peace
@jonbourgoin182
@jonbourgoin182 4 жыл бұрын
3:01:20 if you came here to hear about Rock vs Austin
@AmericanGypsy206
@AmericanGypsy206 Ай бұрын
I was there live and I didn’t even care for that match because rock and Austin or played out by this time. I went for Triple h and Booker T.
@TheSportsCourier
@TheSportsCourier 6 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated WrestleMania. Not finished with the show yet, but they definitely could've given Booker the Mania win and and HHH could've regained title a month later just to freshen thing ups. HHH beat everyone those days though. In the long run, Booker T got himself over in spite of some spotty WWE booking.
@josephboza7448
@josephboza7448 6 жыл бұрын
This wrestlemania was underrated in my opinion. Besides the Booker T vs Triple H World Heavyweight Championship match, this card was pretty damn good. It almost felt like to me Triple H was using Booker T to bury WCW even though he worked there as Jean Paul Levesque. They told a great story with Kurt and Brock given the injury that Kurt went through before the match.
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that this is debated over first or second overall from what I've seen.
@mikemarioplays2521
@mikemarioplays2521 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you in NoLa!!! Love the show. The only wrestling podcast I've ever listened to in my life...took me forever to go from beginning to end...Finally close to catching up...Love the show. Thank you for the great stories.
@_luke795_
@_luke795_ 6 жыл бұрын
The Rock did more, in one night, to put Booker over, than Triple H did that entire feud.
@keithcrockett8986
@keithcrockett8986 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Prether ROCK was actually the person to burry booker the hardest..... ROCK: "WHO... IN THE BLUE HELL.... ARE YOU....?" BOOKER: "SUKKA.... MY NAME IS BOOK...." ROCK: "IT DOSENT MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS"...... THAT KILLED BOOKER
@fmthebaron
@fmthebaron 6 жыл бұрын
Rock said that to Jericho too in his debut, he said it to everyone.
@mikeg155
@mikeg155 5 жыл бұрын
Lakers fan Booker always had Shane’s help, etc. because he was a heel. That’s chicken shit heel 101. Regarding the promo, while it’s true Booker had already been there for months, The Rock had JUST come back from filming a movie. He missed all of the invasion up until that point, so that was his first time seeing Booker. That makes it the same situation as it was with Jericho. It made sense for Rock to not know who he was.
@ngonzoak
@ngonzoak 5 жыл бұрын
Some of y’all take this shit too serious. It didn’t matter because If the Rock really wanted to bury him he just wouldn’t have worked with him. That simple.
@DD-fs9xt
@DD-fs9xt 5 жыл бұрын
That's because booker was a transitional opponent to get Triple H more heat since the fans cheered him against Steiner.
@freakinflax
@freakinflax 6 жыл бұрын
If anyone cares, the review of the actual show takes place 2 hours and 18 minutes in!
@op2001
@op2001 6 жыл бұрын
I wish they would put a time stamp for us.
@deepblue8143
@deepblue8143 5 жыл бұрын
I dont care at all, the whole show was awesome. I dont tune in just for the topic at hand, infact the sidebars are usually more entertaining and informative.
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034 5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't hurt to timestamp.
@mattjustofficial
@mattjustofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Ty sir!!!
@WillS724
@WillS724 6 жыл бұрын
Sort of an annoying time in wrestling when HHH was shoved down our throats.
@rw8185
@rw8185 3 жыл бұрын
Well it created Orton and it made Batista so suck it up.
@matsong5134
@matsong5134 6 жыл бұрын
How many times does Bruce have to tell Conrad that not everyone can be on the main card? Conrad can be dense sometimes.
@comeonmaaan4288
@comeonmaaan4288 6 жыл бұрын
He really refuses to accept logical answers that are not going to change. Yes, Bruce is full of shit sometimes, but he often has a sound answer for something that doesn't match what Conrad wants to hear and we as an audience suffer.
@MarcoPolo-tu4yj
@MarcoPolo-tu4yj 5 жыл бұрын
@Lakers fan they never did Wrestlemania 2000
@haydendivine8631
@haydendivine8631 5 жыл бұрын
Cause he always has to argue and throw a bitch fit when Bruce answers and he doesnt like the answers
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 4 жыл бұрын
He's a nerd.smart mark what do you expect. I started wrestling in 2006 and now I teach at a big school down south and everyone always makes fun of the marks that still believe that it's real but I'd rather deal with them than smart marks any day of the week. Because so much of the time the smart marksthink they know everything and they still don't know shit. They're fucking obnoxious and they need to just sit in the crowd and fucking shut up. can you imagine if you are a magician and you have people in the crowd just sitting and talking like they know how to do all the tricks even though they only know how to do like 40% of them
@I41535D
@I41535D 4 жыл бұрын
Matson G ohhhhh so having Triple H as a main event for 12 months was good business ??? Right no thanks! That’s that title was a joke triple H was given that title, at least on smackdown the WWE champion belt hold value, the Rock, Lesnar, Show, Angle, Hogan, Taker, E Guerrero, Cena, RVD even Bradshaw sold a story on why they held that title WHC on raw on the other hand was held up by Triple Bitch
@dougripley861
@dougripley861 6 жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite episode. Awesome episode guys!
@carbonsilkthread
@carbonsilkthread 6 жыл бұрын
I will never forget being in the 300 section looking up at the video board and seeing Vince’s bloody movie like facial expression coming over the ring apron. One of my favorite parts of the whole show.
@javierbarajas9507
@javierbarajas9507 6 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best episodes..I like when they last 3 to 4 hours.. It's better than this won in the poll.they don't talk as much of this era .y voted for wrestlemania 24 that was in 2008 I don't remember if the last years of Bruce are talked about at all
@jaserogers997
@jaserogers997 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of those few occasions where Bruce could easily have said "Yeah, of course it had racist undertones. We were looking for heat. Same way that in 1998, Jeff Jarrett was misogynistic toward women for an angle. Heat". It was 2003 with the Booker/Triple H thing. It was acceptable to stuff like that for an angle. Aggravating, uncomfortable and volatile, yes. But still acceptable. By denying it over and over, Bruce doesn't do himself any favours.
@jordanhutton5787
@jordanhutton5787 4 жыл бұрын
Especially since they did the exact same thing with Randy Orton and Shelton Benjamin months later....
@KobaAM
@KobaAM 3 жыл бұрын
He will ALWAYS tow the line no matter what.
@HereIsWisdom1318
@HereIsWisdom1318 3 жыл бұрын
I still think Booker should have won.
@MadYoke17
@MadYoke17 5 жыл бұрын
Best wrestlemania ever.
@fallenchao
@fallenchao 4 жыл бұрын
Opinion
@antoniusjohnson3824
@antoniusjohnson3824 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Bruce Prichard and Solomonster debate about Triple H during this time
@travismcdonald6576
@travismcdonald6576 6 жыл бұрын
Antonius Johnson Prichard would rather speak with that WWE schill Sam Roberts. Solomonster would obliterate Prichard.
@danieljohnston2379
@danieljohnston2379 5 жыл бұрын
Travis... Bruce would dominate a conversation with Solomon. Even though Solomonster would be right and would make great points, he would be shut be down by "you're not in the business you don't know".
@Marc_Masters
@Marc_Masters 5 жыл бұрын
@@danieljohnston2379 there is too much content elsewhere
@mattmoon5300
@mattmoon5300 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce talks for a living and has more knowledge than solomonster. Prichard wins hands down.
@jayrusso1589
@jayrusso1589 5 жыл бұрын
@@mattmoon5300 I hate to admit your correct even though I love Solomonster more
@theFRIS
@theFRIS 6 жыл бұрын
funny Triple H didn't say people like you to Scott Steiner. Ric Flair is like HHH's hero, but with Flair standing right there, his promo was only about WCW champions being inferior? (so he's insulting his teammate Flair too) ...yeah, makes sense "The Artful Dodger"
@peterparker5773
@peterparker5773 6 жыл бұрын
theFRIS No he was saying that wcw was inferior in its last few years with people like David and Russo winning the title and Booker T winning the belt by then didn’t mean anything which was true.
@jmreeves89
@jmreeves89 6 жыл бұрын
theFRIS 100% on point. After this one, I'm done.
@theFRIS
@theFRIS 6 жыл бұрын
Johnny Mac yes that is true, but that's not all that was said. Maybe he also said it to Steiner & Jericho & Benoit and I could have forgotten (I know Jericho wasn't wcw champion)
@christaker8953
@christaker8953 6 жыл бұрын
Just like all over the net I see people in one post claiming something had to have happened cause Bruce mentioned it on his podcast. Then claiming that another thing happened even when Bruce denied it on his show. Bruce is carnie as hell and is always working. It is like how people jumped to conclusions when Conrad's podcast with Flair suddenly ended. Saying that Flair hated Conrad and the two of them were not friends anymore. And now Conrad is married to/about to be married to Flair's daughter. Some parts of the IWC tends to believe any rumor they hear. And will bend all kinds of ways to prove the rumor is true. Look how many people still believe the Macho Man/Steph rumor. When it makes way more sense that Vince was mad at Macho for leaving when he did and taking the Slim Jim deal with him. But nope "It's cause Macho was banging a teenage Steph. Vince found out and fired him." It is crap like this why lots of wrestlers still don't think to highly of fans and really really do not like the so called "smart" fans.
@gman9203
@gman9203 6 жыл бұрын
What’s funny is that the belt Trips is making fun off is the SAME BELT as the one he has 🤦‍♂️🤣
@mirgill1
@mirgill1 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a black guy and when I saw the angle between Triple H and Booker T, it did sting a bit with the bit of racial undertone in the promo delivered by Triple H, however, this is not the first time an angle like this was done. In WCW in the early 90s, Ron Simmons/Vader feud after Ron Simmons had won the world title, there was an angle where Ron Simmons was confronted by Vader's manager at the time Harley Race. Harley Race said nearly the same lines that Ric Flair was telling Booker T about being nothing but a chauffeur, bag boy or errand boy dehumanizing him. Bruce Prichard touched on it a little with what Ron Simmons thought of angles like that. I wish he had elaborated more with respect to Ron Simmons. But I understand that he (Bruce Prichard) wasn't working for WCW then.
@nuclearruffneck
@nuclearruffneck 4 жыл бұрын
Would you throw the race card out, like the time when Scott Steiner told Tyson Tomko to "Go get my bags!", not only once but many times in TNA? Asking for a Native American...
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a white guy and I was never comfortable with the angle either. They never had to go there and Bruce denying that race had anything to do with it was pathetic. They could have easily made the angle about wcw being less than without making it a black vs white thing. We have enough of that in real life. Wrestling is supposed to be an escape from that crap.
@darthbigred22
@darthbigred22 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rschr101 You're bringing modern sentiments from now into back then. 2003 wasn't know for racial strife like 2021. Only one year later is when Obama gives his speech in front of the DNC national committee launching his future bid for president while helping that snoozer candidate Kerry afterall. As not wanting that in wrestling, why not? We're fine with it in all sorts of other programs and frankly if two people are going to be in a grudge match say where they are so angry at each other they want weapons, no holds barred, or a Hell in the Cell then I think I want some reasons the two characters would hate each other enough to want a match like that in the first place. Wrestling is entertainment, wrestlers are actors who play characters and fake fight each other. The Attitude and Ruthless Aggression era still have some very stupid storylines but honestly part of what made the eras good was because suddenly it seemed like there was some good reasons for people to fight each other. By Conrad's logic we should demonize the non white/not gay Rock for calling SCSA and the fans "trailer park trash" or "redneck" or "fag" and if you really want to take the leftist logic further you can say the entire SCSA vs Rock feud is uncomfortably racist. SCSA looks like Ed Norton in American History X and he bests this poor half black/ half samoan who just wants to be the People's Champ. After all, especially in the 90s, who shaves their head if you're white even if you're going bald? Frasier didn't, Captain Picard didn't, Hulk Hogan/Macho didn't. It was something usually only skinheads did... Come to think of it didn't SCSA have a confederate flag themed t-shirt in 2004 when he ref'ed for Lesnar and Goldberg? I know there's beer bottles on it with some skulls but it's pretty obvious what he's referencing. If we actually want to talk about something that's distasteful in entertainment now how about a 400 lb man who's so damn creepy he buys robes off another man for years, then because he's such a weirdo he marries his daughter and becomes a member of his family. Then factor in that this guy pretends to carry a sword of social justice for black people while giving them predatory loans. What actually hurts the black man more? A jackass big nosed loser who married the bosses daughter and overstayed his welcome about 21 years longer than his career playing a evil bad guy who never fucking lost against anyone almost ever, including the Rock when he was at the height of his wrestling fame, doing a edgy possibly racist promo which WWF had already been doing for years? Or a fatass stalker torturing old wrestling middle managers about what he feels his right because he likes wrestling but he needs to push his shitty brand too? Think Conrad ever lets any of those no credit families off a few years early? Think those interest rates are low? Fatboy can go to Hell and I don't mind wrestling being edgy. HHH/Booker could have went full bore racial and at least it'd make sense why they are about to beat the hell out of each other. Don't get me wrong I hate HHH , he's a bore and he won WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much against everyone. However you can't make many good adult shows without adult themes afterall and clearly wrestling is better with good story than the spectacle of fake fighting that exists now.
@UncledadBFD
@UncledadBFD 3 жыл бұрын
Actual show at 09:00. I had to scroll down to find this so thought I'd repost for yall
@andyhempshall6152
@andyhempshall6152 6 жыл бұрын
Kurt after the match in the shower must’ve been like the beginning of Rocky V
@blomp23
@blomp23 4 жыл бұрын
You could probably say the same about Brock after almost killing himself on that moonsault.
@ronaldcole6101
@ronaldcole6101 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Kurt,Brock and Austin nearly died that night.
@thetlamb
@thetlamb 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldcole6101 sobering!
@johnjandoh6732
@johnjandoh6732 6 жыл бұрын
Steph should have posed for playboy, cause I'm sure she would have gotten more buys than tori. I mean this is smackdown gm steph, where she was hot and busty as hell.
@Super122291
@Super122291 5 жыл бұрын
John Jandoh I still remember when cena slapped that nice round ass of steph ugghhh
@mattjustofficial
@mattjustofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir with that huge rack hmmmmmm lolol
@nuclearruffneck
@nuclearruffneck 4 жыл бұрын
Jugsy McMahon
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 3 жыл бұрын
( . )( . )
@johnjandoh6732
@johnjandoh6732 3 жыл бұрын
@@Super122291 Yh. That was a good one. She had a nice apple shaped ass at that time. So damn perfect.
@thegreatkgatsbyb9274
@thegreatkgatsbyb9274 4 жыл бұрын
I think they shouldve added vince vs hbk at WM22 as another one of vince's greatest matches
@dragonbreederschizo8333
@dragonbreederschizo8333 6 жыл бұрын
My only problem with the HHH/Booker match. It only took one pedrirge to beat book where as every other main event match used muptile finishing moves. And to say having two faces win the belts guess they forgot eddie and benoit.
@mikeg155
@mikeg155 5 жыл бұрын
dragonbreeder schizo The single Pedigree wasn’t even the problem. It’s the almost 30 seconds Triple H laid there after before he crawled over for the pin.
@RyanDMoore
@RyanDMoore 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeg155 This. Exactly this.
@shaneclancy4083
@shaneclancy4083 4 жыл бұрын
Benoit won the title at Mania 20.......Eddie won the title a month before at No Way Out 04
@HereIsWisdom1318
@HereIsWisdom1318 3 жыл бұрын
Eddie and Benoit was the first thing i thought of.
@jurassicdangerousdinosaurj2424
@jurassicdangerousdinosaurj2424 6 жыл бұрын
Great show and this is definitely one of the best wrestlemanias ever also one of the saddest with it being stone colds last match 😔
@78bcat
@78bcat 6 жыл бұрын
Conrad is a mark...If Booker knew he was losing, what better thing could have happened to his babyface character than what HHH said. It made him sympathetic, made the fans care about him, feel he was done dirty...I'd say HHH did him the biggest favor he could do short of losing. Bottom line: HHH's heat was getting paid off to a bigger babyface...Goldberg. If he's not signed, maybe they go with Booker, but he was signed...
@BamRu26
@BamRu26 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I was blessed to attend this Wrestlmania! It was awesome. Thank God for WWE.
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 4 жыл бұрын
Thank Vince. Lol
@petersandas3
@petersandas3 6 жыл бұрын
While Bruce was describing the stone cold shit I almost cried too man.
@theghostretort7058
@theghostretort7058 6 жыл бұрын
Psandeezy 92 shut up
@MessianicJewJitsu
@MessianicJewJitsu 6 жыл бұрын
So neat to hear Bruce talk about these subject. I love that he's positive and doesn't dump on everything
@maldini883
@maldini883 6 жыл бұрын
out of the manias ive seen my favs are probably WM 9, WM 10 and WM 20. If 20 had a couple less matches and a better Undertaker vs Kane match it would be number 1 without much thought. It just went on for so damn long.
@IAmNeomic
@IAmNeomic 6 жыл бұрын
Little anecdote about the Nathan Jones bit in the Taker match: On the DVD, Nathan Jones runs down and does his spin kick, everything goes smooth. On the live PPV, which I had on VHS for years, Nathan Jones ran down, stood there in the isle for about 3-4 seconds bouncing before Big Show yells "kick me!" and Nathan clobbers him after a slight hesitation. So that spot on the DVD was tightened up quite a lot, and going back and watching that old VHS (including Jericho giving HBK the finger which was cut on the DVD for some reason), I could totally tell why Jones was taken out of the match.
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 Жыл бұрын
Not just that, but when undertaker went to pick up a train for the tombstone his knees start to buckle and he starts to bend backwards and he yells out help me! Because a train wasn't posting enough for him and the ended up cutting that out so you can't hear it as well
@IAmNeomic
@IAmNeomic Жыл бұрын
@@thickerconstrictor9037 Yeah, there was a lot of spot calling on the show that was clipped out. Especially in the main event. Kurt was calling everything so loud. "Throw me!", "Bow & Arrow!", "Two more! (suplexes)"
@pigs18
@pigs18 6 жыл бұрын
This show was insanely good. There were several matches that could have been the main event of nearly any other PPV. The Undertaker match was disappointing and the less said about the Miller Lite pillow fight the better.
@peterparker5773
@peterparker5773 6 жыл бұрын
pigs18 Lol But it was better then expected the undertaker match it could have been a lot worse. Taker made the match.
@thenorsenut380
@thenorsenut380 6 жыл бұрын
pigs18 i enjoyed the pillow fight sometimes eye candy is what u want to see.
@jhot2477
@jhot2477 6 жыл бұрын
vhs baby, because for some odd reason the wwe doesn't release these fucking old ppvs, like why in 2018 is hard for me to get my hands on a wrestlemania from the 80's or 90s? that's fucking absurd, and if you can find it, it's like $50 or higher
@graysontheginger
@graysontheginger 6 жыл бұрын
Im so happy you guys made this episode!
@stuffronmakes9698
@stuffronmakes9698 6 жыл бұрын
Get the chapstick out.
@joeysaint3623
@joeysaint3623 5 жыл бұрын
My child hood favorite wrestler when I first started watching wwf was warrior than Bret than hbk than Rock n Austin than Brock n still Brock lesnaaaaaaaarrrrr!!!!!!!
@supernintendo6983
@supernintendo6983 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode like always. I am glad you did this one. Very underrated Mania. Great matches all around the card and this card was stacked with a great roster. The best Roster wwe has had besides today and the 80's. Also I am very glad WWE has gotten passed the whole bra and panties and playboy stuff. I can't stand watching it now and have to fast forward knowing how great and popular women's wrestling has become.
@jrwizz
@jrwizz 6 жыл бұрын
I dont know if youve clipped it but if not then clip when u started #shepooted!!!!!! Had me rollin on floor
@dametime128
@dametime128 6 жыл бұрын
Think about this guys.,The original plan was supposed to be Austin and triple h.Then Rock vs Goldberg.Then Vince vs bischoff, They gave Austin the rock because Goldberg didn't sign in time, And then they threw booker t at triple h so triple h could bury him,If Austin vs triple h happens, booker is never buried.
@Dredsed
@Dredsed 3 жыл бұрын
Blame Goldberg.
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god it worked out the way it did. I dont think I could stomach Triple H beating Austin again.
@Trew-I-Am
@Trew-I-Am 5 жыл бұрын
Yes..... Booker should've won.
@blindterrytucci2752
@blindterrytucci2752 6 жыл бұрын
You think Ric was yelling “You can’t fire me! I’m already fired!” while he was attacking Bischoff?
@nbaldwin45
@nbaldwin45 3 жыл бұрын
'One is an athlete that we've never seen in professional wrestling before' ... Dr Death Steve Williams and Ron Simmons would like a word with you, Conrad, off the top of my head.
@tthomaselli2
@tthomaselli2 2 жыл бұрын
Is the background video of the fireworks going off for this episode the same one that was used for the 'WWF WrestleMania 4' video?... I think so, but, I literally don't remember.
@carbonsilkthread
@carbonsilkthread 6 жыл бұрын
Best Mania of all time. Mania card was so stacked, Taker was the second match...
@thedominatior39
@thedominatior39 6 жыл бұрын
I remember going to the WWE Ride in Niagara Falls and it had a store below it was awesome wonder what’s there now
@skippythealien9627
@skippythealien9627 2 жыл бұрын
last time i was in Niagara Falls was pre-pandemic...late spring of 2019. that space where wwe used to be was a massive brewpub that showcased its own beer brewed on site. no clue if that place still exists or not now
@andresgc770
@andresgc770 4 жыл бұрын
Just (re-)listened to their coverage of the Hulk/Vince match, and I was surprised they didn't discuss that chair shot that Hugo Savinovich took at his announce table. I could've sworn they DID talk about it, though, since I have a vague memory of SOMEONE doing an impression of Stone Cold in the gorilla position saying that they need to tell "Huguito" to move out of the way... Was that not here? Was it on some other podcast or documentary (and if so, which one)???
@carbonsilkthread
@carbonsilkthread 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the company got together afterwards and all came up with these buzzwords and rebuttals: totality, wcw vs wwf, rock said knappy earlier, only one baby face that night, etc... love that Conrad just presses and presses for the fans. Thanks!
@1212Jiggz
@1212Jiggz 5 жыл бұрын
The ride was on the roof of the store located on Clifton Hill, Which is right by the Falls
@SupaStah01
@SupaStah01 6 жыл бұрын
I work 2 jobs, full time student AND I STILL somehow listen to S2WW ALL DAY!! Love the show and appreciate the mid 80's-to early 00s topics.
@alexbain87
@alexbain87 2 жыл бұрын
@2:12:33 lol I absolutely love Conrad’s “no sell” on Bruce’s song. 😂🤣😂
@GD-1982
@GD-1982 4 жыл бұрын
Wm19 rebook.....world championship hbk vs rvd=RVD wins world title 1st time!!!! Wouldve been well deserved wwf championship match stays the same great match Lesnar vs angle......Austin vs goldberg.....hogan and rock vs flair and hhh......undertaker vs big show one on one......tag matches stay the same added the dudleys......rey mysterio vs jeff hardy......kane vs Booker t vs Steiner number 1 contender triple threat match
@GD-1982
@GD-1982 4 жыл бұрын
Make it fatal 4 way booker t v Steiner v kane v Jericho
@markterryonline
@markterryonline 6 жыл бұрын
I love the promo that Flair had with him where Flair explains to Booker T his qualifications. Like he was qualified to pick up his bags when they get off the plane, place them in the limo and put on a chauffeur hat. This was classic heel work.
@travisbryant3185
@travisbryant3185 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes.
@JJA1987
@JJA1987 6 жыл бұрын
Alberto Del Fuckbag never drew unlike Eddie and Rey
@joeygana8864
@joeygana8864 6 жыл бұрын
TheDieHardWWEAddict Eddy Drew
@SupaStah01
@SupaStah01 6 жыл бұрын
Del Rio couldn't draw flies to a steamy pile of shit
@CeemPlay
@CeemPlay 6 жыл бұрын
How dare you
@billyray5232
@billyray5232 6 жыл бұрын
TheDieHardWWEAddict He did draw...bruises and scrapes on Paige after he beat her...Alberto sucks.
@cptnmrgnkid
@cptnmrgnkid 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're right and Bruce is wrong. Lmao hahahahahaha 😂😂😂
@thep1fitzy902
@thep1fitzy902 3 жыл бұрын
4 years old for a stadium is still new
@raywideman7157
@raywideman7157 2 жыл бұрын
Booker was by far the best talent to come out of WCW, although I do admit that Vince buried alot of those guys who could have/should have done better. DDP comes to mind
@Jay-Kaizo
@Jay-Kaizo 4 жыл бұрын
Also, the theme park. Why is that an weird obsession? lmfao. WWE is involved with so many things. This is one of the reasons why it became so huge. They were everywhere.
@MrVante247
@MrVante247 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode, great content, and I love when Bruce sings "With My Baby Tonight" lol
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 6 жыл бұрын
always gets a great pop
@MrVante247
@MrVante247 6 жыл бұрын
Rschr101 that and they seg way into products so smoothly. I laughed my ass off when they talked about Hogan & Austin and longevity, then hair growth products muwahaha
@78bcat
@78bcat 6 жыл бұрын
Always wondered how lame and hacky comics draw a crowd...and now I know: it's hardcore wrestling fans who listen to podcasts...
@MrVante247
@MrVante247 6 жыл бұрын
78bcat if you're not a fan... Keep it moving lol (waving bye bye and laughing)
@theghostretort7058
@theghostretort7058 6 жыл бұрын
I love when Bruce stops breathing.
@TheSonofafrog316
@TheSonofafrog316 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Bruce! Watch the latest Table for 3, Jeff sings it for you
@KcLegendary
@KcLegendary 4 жыл бұрын
Good mania. In my opinion not better than 17 however... this event was important due to Austin's last match. Many folks thought Steve Austin was bullshitting about his last but, the man was for real. End of 316 era. This mania should not be over looked by far.
@BonesBrigader
@BonesBrigader 5 жыл бұрын
I live 7 minutes from Sunrise , Florida. Sucks I'm playing catch up on these shows cuz I missed out on some shiiiiit 🤣 I'll never forget Tony Chimed announcing Limp Bizkit " And here to perform 'CRACK ADDICT' lmao
@gothchicksbongrips5712
@gothchicksbongrips5712 4 жыл бұрын
The thought of Brock just launching Bruce in the air is hilarious.
@kingragnar8023
@kingragnar8023 4 жыл бұрын
Man what a card. Taker, hbk, Austin, rock, Hogan, hhh, Jericho, Kurt, Brock, booker T, and Trish ❤️
@jasonmyers8600
@jasonmyers8600 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the most star studded wrestlemania card of all time. When Taker is 2nd match of the night, you know you have a strong card.
@jphuture
@jphuture Жыл бұрын
Wwf new York was cool as a new Yorker because you can immediately get merchandise and to see smackdown before everyone else in the country but the food was expensive for the time but warm almost cold and bland but the name change did not attract the casual tourist
@jorisweyen7934
@jorisweyen7934 6 жыл бұрын
"...hmmm....probably A-Train." hehe that got me laughing...
@kingragnar8023
@kingragnar8023 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone was talking about Brock eating shit on the flip the next day at school lol
@gripstrength
@gripstrength 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce makes a great point on "what were the actual numbers of the Monday Night Wars," around the 31:00 Mark.
@Dredsed
@Dredsed 3 жыл бұрын
True
@Loudasstony420
@Loudasstony420 Жыл бұрын
I love that Two & A Half Men reference about Kandy lmao just watched that season of that show recently, season 3 I believe lmao 😂🤷‍♂️
@aldobarovero2807
@aldobarovero2807 5 жыл бұрын
I think what Bruce fails to see, regarding Booker-HHH, is not only was it bad booking to have HHH win, but when he hit the pedigree, how looooong it took HHH to cover Booker.
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034 5 жыл бұрын
Top guys like hhh and Orton do that and can get away with it.
@cmonhitme419
@cmonhitme419 5 жыл бұрын
hysterical vince in that match- love how he sells, fallan d reacts when he gets his hands on that elusive pipe. HA!!!!
@dametime128
@dametime128 6 жыл бұрын
I love Kurt to death, but I would have loved to seen beniot take on lesnar or it be a triple threat, maybe I'm being bias but that's the way they should have went. Chris beniot was more then ready, he proved it at the royal rumble in that 5 star classic with Kurt angle.
@pikkon899
@pikkon899 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if you were to go back to that time period, Brock was more over than Booker T. Brock had won a lot of the fans over while Booker T was still fighting for his spot. The fans were starting to get behind Booker but not as a main even guy, not yet anyway. Conrad can cry all he wants to about the "nappy hair" line truth is, being half black and half mexican, I never took any of that seriously. I took it as trash talk in the same way the heels parodied Mexican culture when Eddie was champion. I myself did not want Booker as the "World Champion" because that belt meant nothing. I wanted Booker, later on when he won me over, to be the WWE Chapmion, the title Brock won that night from Angle. You could have put anyone against Triple H at that point and it wouldn't have mattered. RAW sucked during that entire period. Undertaker, Hogan, Brock and Angle were on Smackdown and those were the guys I wanted to see the most during that period. Not Booker T, Triple H, Ric Flair, Orton, etc...
@KobaAM
@KobaAM 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I don't know if they ever see this, but if Conrad does, can you please go back to asking Bruces opinion and then waiting for him to give it, and then saying what Meltzers is? It's to the point Meltzer could say THE Jackie Gadya match was pretty bad and he'd say "ACTUALLY I THINK IT WAS PRETTY GOOD. I DONT KNOW WHAT MELTZERS WATCHING". There's been a few times where Conrad asked Bruce his opinion, and then just responded with "Hey, thats what Metlzer said as well", and its great. The usual few seconds of silence after from Bruce are great.
@PWS859
@PWS859 5 жыл бұрын
The issue with the HHH/Booker T finish that wasn't challenged was the fact it took 20+ seconds and one pedigree for the heel to finish off the face. When does that ever happen?
@kmr8592
@kmr8592 6 жыл бұрын
Greatest WM ever despite HHH.
@jiggiesosa6832
@jiggiesosa6832 2 жыл бұрын
Conrad says Bruce wants to be argumentative but he's the one who argues when he doesn't like the answer. What's up with that!
@jaserogers997
@jaserogers997 5 жыл бұрын
I do agree with Conrad, here. While not making the angle more 'correct', it certainly would not have stuck in the craw - or probably even be discussed much today - if Book had won the title and enjoyed a decent run. It would have proven that whatever are the words said in the promos, actions speak louder than words and the company is giving it's top title to and laying it's hat on a black performer, which would have essentially negated any undertones to the promos.
@MrFoxxx47
@MrFoxxx47 6 жыл бұрын
"Whatever I did, I fucked up my flip flop" 😂
@rossomac21
@rossomac21 6 жыл бұрын
I bet they originally booked it intending for Booker-T to win.... and then Goldberg signed on the dotted line, where it makes sense to then build HHH for him to beat.
@PowerPackers90
@PowerPackers90 5 жыл бұрын
Triple H beat Goldberg at summerslam....
@nonamerequired123
@nonamerequired123 6 жыл бұрын
The ride in Niagara Falls was called the Piledriver. It just went up and down.
@vacuumboots69
@vacuumboots69 6 жыл бұрын
Ah well, God damn it pal!
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 6 жыл бұрын
Pronouns pal
@vacuumboots69
@vacuumboots69 6 жыл бұрын
Rschr101 pipe down
@Alivfd
@Alivfd 3 жыл бұрын
9:00 start time
@joycethe5-951
@joycethe5-951 6 жыл бұрын
There it is!
@shawnprivate5322
@shawnprivate5322 Жыл бұрын
Idk how Conrad is still working with these guys,none of em need him..he needs them
@dougripley861
@dougripley861 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think wwe can or will put the mania of wrestle mania on the network because they’ll have to pay Jesse Ventura hella money
@xivwords5448
@xivwords5448 5 жыл бұрын
Vince did you a solid on the intro
@gman9203
@gman9203 6 жыл бұрын
The racist Booker T burial was the only bad thing on this show otherwise it’s my favourite Wrestlemania
@xivwords5448
@xivwords5448 5 жыл бұрын
That gimmick was Booker T's idea dumbass
@dangriffiths6358
@dangriffiths6358 5 жыл бұрын
XIV Words why are you lying so randomly hahaha
@jibo7861
@jibo7861 5 жыл бұрын
Johnny Ace.. wanted to Brock to finish with shooting star press... Brock said in his book .. even after Brock wasn't comfortable.. john suckered him in..
@michaeljones6471
@michaeljones6471 Жыл бұрын
I love that Hogan came down to a rendition of Voo Doo Chile instead of the lame “Real American Song!”🔥🔥🔥
@augustindelgado9467
@augustindelgado9467 5 жыл бұрын
This was a good mania
@David-wj3tg
@David-wj3tg 5 жыл бұрын
If I can not bump and work out at my age. Why can't you bump and work out as much at yours. It's not like I'm going to tear both of my quads simultaneously doing something many performers have to do every single match.
@nle501B
@nle501B 22 күн бұрын
Bruce really trying to defend that triple H promo. Booker got buried. And then the amount of time it took for him to get pinned was the nail in the coffin.
@TheADCsofWrestling
@TheADCsofWrestling 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, my skit isn't on the KZbin version.
@SleptOnTheCouch
@SleptOnTheCouch 5 жыл бұрын
I was there!!
@davidgalvan1084
@davidgalvan1084 6 жыл бұрын
I was at this show.
@keithcrockett5675
@keithcrockett5675 6 жыл бұрын
Conrad just doesn't like HHH...
@I41535D
@I41535D 4 жыл бұрын
Keith Crockett dude!!!!! Triple H is a bitch moaner! He held that damm title for so long. Bruce Prichard is a kiss ass And also you fan boys of triple H are kiss assers as well.
@I41535D
@I41535D 4 жыл бұрын
Keith Crockett fuck triple H
@HereIsWisdom1318
@HereIsWisdom1318 3 жыл бұрын
Fck Triple H!
@AmericanGypsy206
@AmericanGypsy206 Ай бұрын
This was in my hometown in Seattle Washington. I went to this event live and I can tell you I did not care for the rock versus Austin match. It’s been done twice at this point to me that was lazy booking, and both of them were on their way out the only match I was really interested in seeing when I purchased my ticket. Was Booker T vs Triple H and I knew that Booker T. wasn’t gonna win. I just know the WWE doesn’t wanna let their golden boy lose the same thing with John Cena a couple years later and even though I’m not a fan of Hulk Hogan never was his match against Vince. McMahon was pretty entertaining but I will admit this wrestlemania didn’t have a lot of good matches. I was there live, and I didn’t really care for any of the matches
@Joeywatts1500
@Joeywatts1500 6 жыл бұрын
this show make me want to watch wrestle mania
@johnputzier5787
@johnputzier5787 5 жыл бұрын
Conrad is more annoying than usual in this episode.
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