True Spring or True Autumn? Warmth is Your Dominant Trait

[@maysabadawy6044]

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[@LowSlungBadBitch]

I follow many as well and I agree!!

[@stylerefinement]

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[@sylvia470]

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[@mrsbryant]

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[@stylerefinement]

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[@sylvia470]

I really dislike the fuchsia vs orange. I heard somewhere that Bright Spring is the rarest type, but in my opinion it is simply because they are often mistyped. Because facing fuchsia vs orange test they would look equally good in both. The difference would be so narrow, so hard to tell, they would mostly end up being a winter bright.

[@stylerefinement]

100%! It only really works if you're one of the True seasons imo

[@marilyn6168]

I believe I’m a true spring and honestly fuchsia works as well as orange for me. I’m wearing lots of autumn colours too and lots of neutrals but I’ve noticed that a soft khaki paired with a beige falls short on me. Maybe the brightness or the contrast is missing. By the way I “shouldn’t” wear black but I do because I love black. To sum up, I guess I’m not following 100% what this theory dictates.

[@minervarose7664]

I do believe i am a Bright Spring, fuchsia and orange are both really good on me!! Being a brown woman with dark brown eyes + black hair i used to automatically typecast myself into Dark Autumn, but then get confused why Winter jewel tones looked good on me, while more muted Autumn tones looked blah! I now realize that what my skin is more sensitive to is chroma and clarity rather than temperature...so although am technically a "warm" season, am much better off in an emerald green dress than a dark olive...

[@minervarose7664]

​@@marilyn6168i look at colour theory as more of helping me understand the effect created by colours on my skin, rather than use it as a rule book to leave out "bad colours" (life's too short for that!) We can both wear black of course! But on you as a True Spring, it's likely to be much more dramatic/ striking ❤ than on me as a Bright Spring. On me black can look just boring, unless i pair it with a bright colour near my face - like an LBD with a red lip, or a simple black blouse with some elegant gold earrings.

[@JibaBrahma]

OMG yess I feel both Fuscia and orange doesn't look bad on me.. dunno if I'm warm or cool.. I'm so bad at this

[@hadasgold6511]

I must say that what really helped me was your advice in a previous video where you talked about your undertone and said that being an olive you can wear both warm and cool, it depends on what you would like to accentuate. Being an olive myself, I tried a few red, greens and purples, one time with cool undertone and another time with a warm tone. Me and my husband agreed I can wear both but it depends what look I prefer. He liked the warm ones because he said he likes the yellow in my skin and it brings it out but I prefered the cold ones (he said it can me look a bit more green, which I agree, but it blends way better with my skin IMO). We both agreed that deep contrast and the clarity of the colors are the most important in my case. So I decided not to think about seasons (though I think I am between winter and autumn) and more about what I would like to accentuate. It really simplied things for me.

[@stylerefinement]

Really good point! I think that the tonal system really does work for those of us whose dominant trait doesn't depend on temperature :) I still find some benefits of using the seasonal system, and with future videos about other seasons I'll explain why I actually like using a hybrid approach ❤

[@rainthomps694]

I love how detailed you get in these videos. My brain just follows along effortlessly.

[@stylerefinement]

Happy to hear you liked the details! 🤓

[@Deem57]

When I put fabrics with low colour saturation (especially cool and low) near my face it looks like I have a green mustache. Pretty easy to tell when they don' t suit me

[@p.b.4464]

Very excited to hear what you're about to say. I am still wearing training wheels on this topic. I got it intellectually, but it's so hard for me to see.

[@stylerefinement]

I’m still learning and sharing my learnings as I go 💕

[@venenumletalis]

You definitely have a talent for explaining color and style theories in a very understandable manner! Thank you!

[@squidney1122]

mind blown at 20:43 when you explain my experience as an autumn palette, nobody else explains these things!

[@stylerefinement]

Glad you resonated with the point!

[@Calida]

I was draped as a True Autumn so that was really confusing for me to grasp, as I've spent most my life gravitating towards winter colors (typical Asian Aesthetic 😂). This was super helpful in trying to understand the value, depth, etc that can be so confusing when trying to choose clothing colors, thank you 🥹💕

[@sannapremisser]

Very informative and easy to understand, as always! For the longest time I thought I was a soft autumn, and then I got professionally typed as a true spring and it all made sense. What I was missing then was CLEARITY, and a hint of white in my colours. With current trends, and other factors, I didn’t gravitate to true spring colours - also they are not the easiest to find in stores, so naturally I was wearing more soft autumn colours. They made me look dull/heavy, but with untrained eyes I just perceived myself as “soft” and a bit grey, just as I thought that a soft autumn would look. What I realise now is that clearity is one of my biggest traits, I just didn’t see it because true spring colours seemed so far off and crazy 😊 I would a video on how to wear spring colours in winter! It l always feel a bit off wearing warm clear colours then 😅

[@T-Rex-Index]

I feel like in the diy context this is a very common experience for springs! I also typed myself as soft autumn when I started out and the colors did not look bad per se bc next to them I also look soft and muted (aka washed and greyed out). Turns out I'm actually a bright spring bordering on true spring haha

[@Maria.Aurelia]

I’m a soft autumn. I neeed muted colors. I can’t do vibrant, bold colors like a true red, yellow, blue, etc. especially if it’s neon >.

[@lightdancervaughn1447]

Thank you, Jenn. You have the best content. Appreciate your thoughtfulness with reorganizing the playlists. I have learned so much from watching your channel. ❤️

[@stylerefinement]

Thank you! I'm glad you're finding the content helpful ❤ Have a great weekend!

[@ericathefae]

19:40 I wish you'd put their names or arrows or something in this image since I have no idea who any of these ladies are and therefore have no way to understand which one you're refering to as spring or autumn.

[@AlexAndra-rw1kl]

this was the best explanation of color analysis and what it means to have warm versus cool undertones or temperature dominance

[@p.b.4464]

I love seeing Leslie Mann in here!

[@hannahr7068]

I was just typed as a warm autumn. I'm shocked.. ive worn cool tones all my life! i'm pale.. i was born a blonde grrew up dirty blond always been pale but my arms tanned easily my face stays pale with a few freckles. My mum said i had strawberry blonde hair so i guess thats a hint to future warmth? blue eyes with yellow rings. now my hair since i stopped dying it during covid was actually a deep auburn. Its so shocking to me! my whole wardrobe is blues pinks and black greys etc. So i tried on some gold jewellery and browns i went to a few op shops as well. Wow it really shows now. I think i struggle most now with makeup but its such a shock still it will take me some time. Now i hope people will stop telling me i look so tierd i look so pale etc.

[@EmL-kg5gn]

Omg that would be a massive shock!!! Are you starting to feel more used to it yet? My hair used to be a deep auburn but it’s a more bright and medium colour now. I think I’d have struggled to adjust if the change hadn’t been gradual. I did want to dye my hair but my hairdresser told me my options are very limited because of how much bleach it would take to remove my natural colour. I wouldn’t have any hair left if they tried so I’m impressed that you could manage it!

[@6pmmm]

In the case of people with dark skin, is it that noticeable whether or not the orange looks bad? I see a lot of dark skin Black women wear neon colors, both warm and cool and it looks amazing. Or is it that once your skin is that dark, temperature is automatically not the most important element, but rather the clarity and/or value of the color? Does the same apply to very pale people?

[@YumeraChauque]

Is very noticable even if you are very dark or light ( l dont know very light people in person bcs I live in África) my mom is a winter ( I think) and the primary charasteristic of her coloring is cool. E She can in borrow some summer colors. Is very noticable when she use yellow or orange,she use to wear a very yellow blond wig and my dad just didnt like it even if he doesnt know why,but when she use a purplish red : 💅🏽👄💖 its perfect!! It complements her soo well,even when she go to work everybody became admired😮. Hope you have some Idea of how it work.

[@6pmmm]

@@YumeraChauque Oooh okay, than it's the same. It's cool how intuitive it is, too

[@lis9762]

Good video. I know what my colours are being an autumn, but finding clothes I like in those colours isn’t always easy. And hair colour is sometimes difficult.

[@americafirst9144]

Indeed. Many of those colors are only found in men's clothes. I am too short to wear them.

[@irisravenhild9060]

So me who is copper and red chestnut hair color, I am more warm colored, even with my white skin and blue eyes. ... Explains, perhaps, how my red lipstick, which was warm, suited me.

[@SharrellKline]

This method worked exactly for me in a way that I have never been able to figure out! I have a recent photo in an orange shirt and I look fantastic. I have another photo in a fuchsia/mauve/rose lipstick and my skin does in fact have a grey wash even though it's a beautiful photo of me. I am more warm-leaning than I thought.

[@robertascazzari4016]

I found you recently and I'am so glad I did! You are really knowledgable and you speak in a clear and concise manner so I'm finally understanding my color season. I was typed as a deep winter but really never vibed with that colours: now I finally understand why I can pull warm colours. I had lots of Ah-a and Oh moments in your videos, thank you very much ❤❤❤

[@stylerefinement]

Glad you’re finding the content helpful ❤️

[@CBlake-xy5cm]

Thank you so much Jenn! This was very very helpful and validating. As a woman with an olive skin undertone, and pale skin, my choice to allow my beautiful silver hair to grow without dying it has been confusing regarding which clothing colors will keep my skin looking vibrant (and not gray/bluish). With all of the confusing info out there about which colors might be best really focusing on my cool/bright HAIR as the deciding factor for which colors of clothing to wear... I kept finding that my SKIN looked unhealthy. But as soon as I realized which warm colors looked best--and I was intuitively selecting medium levels of clarity and depth--I started to feel confident and beautiful again. I get many compliments about how I look from people of all ages who do not know me. So I'm feeling good about my choices. Your video is totally on point with what I ended up figuring out intuitively. Thanks so much. If people follow your advice, I think they will look vibrant and feel confident. 🦋🧡🦋

[@stylerefinement]

Thank you for the kind comment and sharing your story! So glad to hear that you are finding my content helpful and validating ❤

[@janekof]

Im glad you showed Deepika Padukone. Her being spring is one of the small ways I settled on being spring rather than autumn. I do think I can borrow from autumn and depending on how a system splices their seasons, I could be a warm autumn but there's def more "spring energy" in me. I also concur that you must compare your skin with those of similar depths. Family members are the best! I'm blessed to have two sisters with very similar skin depths but different undertones and clarity levels! My mom is a tad lighter and dad is a tad darker but they too are helpful to compare!

[@IncandescentLightbulb00]

My brain is twisted in a pretzel 🥨 not because of your explanations but because I just don’t know what to think any more. I’ve had cool icy blonde hair for years at this point but before I used to rock orangish hair and I looked really good in it and now I just don’t know what to think 😅😅

[@stylerefinement]

If you think you look good in both, it doesn’t matter at the end of the day!! 😆

[@darlamerrill8052]

Could u please make a true summer an true winter video also? So interesting 😊

[@stylerefinement]

Coming up next! ❤️

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

I love your videos so much. Thanks for being so clear and using so many good examples, Jenn.❤

[@stylerefinement]

Thanks as always for the kind comment Julia!!

[@mollyt6835]

Thank you for this one! Warmth is my dominant trait.

[@darlinglittlethree5860]

I always thought I was an Autumn just because none of the other seasons seemed to describe me at all. I wasnt 100% convinced about Autumn however, as I didn't fit the main textbook description- glowy warm skin, tans easily, obviously warm golden hair. I was draped by House of Color Jan 23' as a Deep Blue Autunm, which was described as a neautral leaning warm season (determined by wow colors). I did like the deeper colors of Autumn on me, but I never really felt the Deep Winter colors did anything for me being a sister season, ans since they don't have specific drapes for each subseason, they really emphasize wearing your while season pallete. I decided to get draped by True Color International last week (really just for the curiosity of a different system) and I was draped a True Autumn. The difference between the fully warm colors like Orange vs a fully cool color like blue was a night and day difference. Even going through neutral warm vs warm or neutral cool vs warm and neutral drapes spoke valumes. Orange is an awesome color one me I learned 😂 but it also helped me see how the warm colors really brought out the warmth in my hair that I had no idea I even had. I always thought my hair leaned more a dark ashy-neautral!

[@PR-cv1if]

I have a burnt orange jacket and everyone loves it on me. The fuchsia color , tho I love it ,doesn’t look good on me. Found that out through a lipstick. A mustard yellow that’s leaning more towards neutral works for me but not one with too much brightness 🔆

[@Keapix]

I recently got typed as a True Autumn and I never considered it for a second! It probably should have been obvious as cool bright colours almost clash with me.

[@BlueBird8925]

I had the same experience! Recently typed as True Autumn and I had never considered it. Now that I’m introducing more of these colours into my wardrobe and paying more attention to the effect that Autumn and other colours have on me I’m really seeing the difference that picking the right colours can have. It’s been challenging because I love cool colours and I find they are more available but they really don’t look as good on me.

[@yensid4294]

I was always torn between Spring & Autumn when the seasons only had 4 divisions. Some Spring colors just seemed too light & too bright vs Autumn which I felt pulled too orange. I had my colors professionally done & wouldn't you know it, I was classified a Warm Golden Spring which combined the medium shades from both palettes including deeper shades of aubergine & russet, many shades of warm pink/soft red but not a lot of orange (except a soft peach) I always knew I could wear most greens & browns but had to be careful with blues. The analysis somewhat confirmed what I had already figured out & provided me with helpful color swatches for comparison. Seasonal color systems are just a shorthand visualization for color families since we all know what Fall Colors are. They are just another tool you can use, totally optional. I still wear black & other colors that aren't ideal but I know how to make them work now :)

[@stylerefinement]

💯! It's a tool at the end of the day and whether you choose to use the tool or not, what matters more is how you use it. Next week I'll be talking about neutrals and how to still incorporate neutrals outside of your season into your outfits and wardrobe :)

[@Nebel-Prinzessin]

WOW, thank you so much for this great video - probably the best one I have ever watched regarding colour analysis! 👏💎💝

[@danibeata2435]

Love your videos. I think you do a great job of explaining these ideas. As a person who doesn't know celebrity names, it can be hard to follow your examples with no signage of who is who or what quality I should be looking for in each example. It would be really cool if you could give color examples using a Munsell Color Wheel. In a Munsell Color wheel, colors are broken down by hue of color then value then chroma. Looking at a the color wheel it helps to understand what you are talking about but I still find it difficult figure out where each season would stop and start. Anyway, looking forward to your next video. Keep up the good work!

[@stylerefinement]

Fair point about celebrity names - I'll try to include them in future vids! Thanks for the suggestion on using the Munsell Color wheel as well - great idea!

[@AnaVlzq]

I'm sure that I a warm season, but I considered myself warm, light and soft but not sure about the proportions. Right now am debating myself between soft autumn or warm spring. I love how bout palettes look on me so that's already a success, but still wandering about

[@Me-xo5tw]

Hi would it be possible to when comparing two different celebrities to write their names on the screen ? Cuz you said like Islas skin vs Amys skin but idk which is which …

[@stylerefinement]

I’ll put the names in future videos! ❤️

[@arwenmoon9815]

Fabulous video!💖💜💕

[@stylerefinement]

Thank you 🤗

[@SchlichteToven]

That could be a reason why everyone thinks I'm in my early 20s when I'm nearly 40, despite not having the rounder face people associate with youth - I'm a spring, probably warm spring, and according to this, springs give off youthful energy based on their colouring and the glow of their skin. Also my red hair has no white yet.

[@lurix1170]

Exactly the video I needed! Thank you so much!

[@stylerefinement]

Glad it was helpful! ❤

[@ST52655]

What you demonstrate is exactly what happens to me whenever I wear cool colors. I look pale, sick and grayed.

[@butterpoweredbike6135]

Great content as always! Would you perhaps consider making a video about what colors to wear when you have a face that is flushed red, since there are so many medical conditions that cause this? Does all color analysis advice go out the window when you have a red face and opt not to correct it with makeup?

[@stylerefinement]

I think the general advice would be to avoid wearing red since it could enhance the redness in the face!

[@EmL-kg5gn]

I find green the worst colour to wear when I’m struggling with redness! Because red and green are complementary colours the contrast really brings it out. I have red hair so people always say to wear green to bring out the redness in my hair but when my skin’s red I avoid it, I prefer blue instead because it still brings out the brightness in my hair by contrasting with the orange tones but it doesn’t emphasise the redness in my skin. Sticking to your colour season always helps even out the skin tone. But it’s harder to find your season yourself, tbh I haven’t seen any examples that include people with significant redness and I’ve watched a lot of colour analysis stuff. They’re probably out there somewhere but I’ve only ever seen people with a little bit of redness

[@tins369]

Thank you for this video! your content is the best!❤

[@stylerefinement]

Glad you enjoy it! ❤❤❤

[@AngelaCelesteMay]

You share lots of valuable information but it would be more helpful if you showed a broader variety of skin tones in Black women, not just one (or two maximum). We come in a very wide range of skin tones from the palest white with freckles to the darkest blue black, but as is usually the case so many of these skin tones or just not included. I encourage you to consider this going forward as it would really help and understanding and applying the content. Thank you.

[@jennifercarter1265]

I loved this deep dive. I hope there’s a similar one upcoming for the cool seasons. I’m also really looking forward to the promised discussion of neutrals. I actually have a specific question about neutrals and shoes- I’ve been typed as cool winter, and while it’s not a perfect fit (I can push further into spring pastels instead of icy winter lights, for instance) I 100% cannot wear brown or any color influenced by brown in any way close to my face ever (notable exceptions being my dark brown hair and foundation that is arguably beige). Should I extend this to not wearing nude shoes? I grew up with advice that nude shoes are the best option with a bright color skirt or dress and I’m not sure if I’m resisting change or if nude heels that closely match my skin tone really do look better than any other option I’ve found with an emerald green skirt or a royal blue dress. If not nude, is there something I should try instead? I feel like white shoes have their place (usually not on my huge feet) and black shoes just don’t make me very happy between about March and June, which is exactly when I want to wear colorful skirts and dresses.

[@YulianaChiPhotography]

I’ve come to a conclusion that seasonal system is not flawed but incomplete. There’s not only warm and cool people, there’s also neutral (gray) and olive (green). And yes, most of neutral and olive still will be ether leaning warm or cool ( cause there’s probably not that many people who has exact amount of yellow and blue in their skin) and can be categorized as warm or cool, light or deep, saturated or soft. But the issue starts when based on that they assign a season which still based on yellow or blue. Which is not entirely accurate for neutrals ( who can mostly pull out warm and cool as long as not to warm or cool) and olives who has green color so the complimentary colors will be different from what good for “yellow” or “blue” people. And because of it there’s still a lot of confusion among olive and neutral people in terms of “so which color palette is right for me?” In my opinion all olives pull out true red very well ( depending on intensity) because it adds that red into green skin and balance it very well. I find it’s one of the winning colors for olives in general. Also the whole idea of “if you cool - wear cool, if you warm - wear warm” not working for olives and neutrals because they have both. And most go with the same idea “ well if I’m warm olive then I should go for warm colors, or if I’m cool olive i should go for cool” - but it’s not, it’s the opposite. For olives and neutrals it’s about balance. Balance out the excessive pigment in the skin. So if you warm olive or neutral you’ll look better in cooler colors since they will add that missing cool pigment and vice versa if you cool olive or neutral a warmer colors will balance out the pigment in skin. Of course there’s still depth and saturation has to be in mind.

[@stylerefinement]

In that sense I think the tonal system is great because it doesn't focus on temperature first! :)

[@CJM279]

Amazing video 🙌🏼

[@stylerefinement]

Thank you 🙌

[@annettwetzig342]

Another great video of yours, thank you so much, Jen!!! 🥰🥰 By the way, I've noticed your recent reel addresses eye colour. Could you maybe also explain what effect this may have on distinguishing subtypes within one colour season? So if I'm not sure whether I'm a true spring or bright spring, could my eye colour help me determine it? It's so confusing to find orientation elsewhere... Most sources say blue eyes need to be bright, and then elaborate, but what about dark blueish grey (sort of "ocean" colour) which is typed often as summer, but I'm definitely spring (and I know several other people with this eye colour), does this mean I'm bright spring, instead of true? Would you have any suggestions please?? 🙏🙏

[@stylerefinement]

Hi Annett! I think it's difficult to judge by eye color alone - it plays a part for sure but to what degree depends on the individual imo! So there is definitely a chance that your eye color can be the distinguishing factor for determining your sub-season. I know that's a bit of a vague answer but hope it helps!

[@sunitamarie1086]

Very interesting!

[@luisaranda893]

Can u be a true autumn and still look weird with yellows but better in a little bit cooler pinks?

[@notaclue822]

I thought there could be a slightly cool orange. Is that not so?

[@marie.theartist]

If I am a neutral/olive skin or cool olive skin, why bright colors look better on me, than muted colors? Isn't neutral or olive skin considered a muted skintone because it falls almost in the middle? Is it because my hair is dark brown and I have blue eyes? I am confused. When I mix my makeup, I have to do equal parts of neutral with an olive foundation and then add one drop of blue pigment to cancel any orange.

[@A.H-ox4up]

Because you have “cool” olive skin. Cool colors are bright and vibrant. Since you said you have olive skin which is muted. So its cool + muted. I’m not a professional , but i hope this helped you.

[@christialuella6594]

When evaluating color should we be using ‘natural Daylight’?

[@stylerefinement]

Yes!

[@christialuella6594]

Thank you!

[@koivunen2489]

I'm watching this out of interest, as I'm strictly cool-toned. And commenting for engagement. BTW, what do you think about using color-grab apps (etc) as a tool to help determine skin tones? I don't remember where I saw that tip being given, and frankly, I found it even more confusing.

[@janekof]

I know you asked Jen but imo, I think you can only really do this with yourself. You can access different photos in different lighting and do the color grabs from the same spot of your face. OR you can take one photo and color grab different areas of your face and find the average tendency towards light vs dark, cool vs warm, soft vs clear. The problem is that once you find those aggregate values of your skin, you can't just assume that colors that have the same leanings automatically work. Sometimes what your skin is =/= what colors you should wear. It might narrow down colors you should try, but you still have to drape to see how your skin color will react to the clothing colors. Like Jen said having yellow tones/warmer tones in your skin doesn't automatically mean that enhancing that warmth will look good. It may be unflattering and your clothes need to be less warm to de-emphasize that instead! TLDR: I think color gabs of skin tones can be a useful tool to collect more info on your skin. I know some olives figure out they're olive bc the color grabs of their contours (shadows of the face) show green quite clearly! It's still a tool tho and you really have to work it right tho and properly weigh or interpret that information appropriately!

[@stylerefinement]

I agree with @janekof that it can be helpful in learning more about your skin, but not necessarily accurate, especially in determining your season. Depending on lighting and which part of the face/body you measure things can turn out differently as well. Our skin tone is not just one single color so you'd need to grab colors from many different areas of the skin but even then, I wonder if the app would be able to tell you which colors are your best colors based on the variances?

[@milkeywilkie]

I definitely think Haley Kalil is a true spring 🌻

[@kitty_s23456]

Yes, I think so too. She looks great in warm, bright colors.