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[@ostrowulf]

Other than the epileptic seizures, great video.

[@IoFoxdale]

As per the rule of Infinity videos on youtube: 1) You probably got rules wrong. 2) The comments will be 90% pointing out the rules.

[@is2606]

Why dont you guys do this more frequently? Battle reports like this are awesome! Would love to watch them on a regular bases.

[@louisxyz1]

I love that you guys are doing more actual playing of games they're consistently great

[@Panquernic]

35:10 Thank god i'm not epileptic

[@ADadsLife921]

From SU&SD's Site "NOTE: There’s about 45 seconds of insane strobing in this video, especially during the final interview segment. Rest assured that Quinns is working on a fix."

[@NickCybert]

It's okay, It's just the DANCE episode of SUSD

[@SapphireCrook]

They said on Twitter that the footage is busted and they cannot fix it, I think. twitter.com/ShutUpShow/status/756533412421373952

[@Whightknight16]

4 years and not fixed

[@ethan5354]

he's got a t-shirt gun, but instead of t-shirts, it's grenades

[@Wookien]

Spend 3 days in the hospital from epileptic seizures, but video was great. 10/10. Would nearly die again.

[@Family4Dogs]

You guys have got us obsessed about this game and about to spend a lot of money lol! Also the battle systems terrain is a must buy for us! Please make more of these videos if you could, it is the best Infinity video on KZbin!!!

[@stuartworthington8061]

Aaaaaahhhhh! The strobing! Overwhelming urge to buy painted terrain! Dam you ShutUpAndSitDown!

[@jessewisowaty1227]

That strobe glitch makes it look as though there's a huge holographic candle flame between them, causing their skin to shine a crimson glow

[@JRufu]

seizure warnings.. jeez..

[@davidjordal8522]

JRufu i know right i had to stop watching it do to that crap.

[@nicholasdufresne3934]

We need another Infinity video soon. I would love to see a review some time too. Cracking fun!

[@davelee6002]

You guys had me cracking up from the jump! Very nice vid!

[@Daktangle]

Huge amount of glitching from the stationary angle. :s Edit: just seen the note on the main sites comment for the video.

[@arthurduarte2165]

so what's exactly sitting on the board in terms of terrain sets? i wanna know so i know what to get

[@samuelconsolatti-welch5876]

I'm super glad that you guys wargame!

[@omnitheus5442]

Best vid you've done! Went and bought in it looks that fun. Seems like Earth Reborn but much more scope!

[@danielkarpenchuk8584]

The seizure flashing is so severe it makes this video unenjoyable. I recommend toning that waaaaay down in future.

[@corbeaubm]

Lots of rules mistakes (including some that would have been fine in the previous edition) but that's par for the course for online game reports. Infinity is complicated.

[@OMGLX]

Is Fuck Town the secret fifth quadrant that awards additional victory points? Too bad Quinns' one unit didn't make it there or he might've won.

[@CesarIsaacPerez]

I'm really liking the battle reports for this game, it seams like a lot of fun! They just started demoing it at my local store I'll have to save some $$$ to buy the starter set...

[@m.a.bromke856]

Robot and the Holograms - a name for a new cool band.

[@omnitheus5442]

I'm not sure the Drone shot correctly around the 16 minute mark as AROs only allow you to place the burst into one unit. Nice video despite the technical difficulties.

[@RyanEdwardsVA]

Wow, what a dramatic game. Looks like a lot of fun!

[@VikingVern7]

5:11 im not epileptic but that hurt my brain

[@StarlightNightflame]

I saw Infinity among the SU&SD video titles but thought "Huh, must be a board game out there also called Infinity - there's no way they did a video on my favorite wargame ever" and never got around to watching it. Now I watch it and lo and behold, it's Infinity! And a great video at that! Make a spinoff channel for Infinity and Armada battle reports please SU&SD ;) On a related note, any chance of you reviewing the dungeon crawler Corvus Belli is releasing - Infinity Defiance? Obviously it's not out yet (I'd imagine it will hit retail shelves early 2021 or so), but when it does?

[@Ninjat126]

I'd read the Gaki/Preta stat blocks, but I'd never actually seen them in action and they're SCARY. Nice to see Doctor Worm getting some love. Doctor Worm always needs more love. If Infinity looks fun to you, check it out! The rules are free, the minis are (mostly) stylish, and your army can consist entirely of conscripted gene-modded cosplayers.

[@mrstaufer]

you guys should do more infinity videos

[@williammcneil6730]

could you please write the title names of each mini you guys bought for this game please i havnt seen the alien guys at the store maybe they are new ? that way i can see if i want to buy the same mini's from their store also is the paint you used on the minis dirty or something? looks grainy like there were bits of stuff in the paint the pictures of painted mini's on the infinity site look much better do you think they sanded them and polished them or something ?

[@Eyclonus]

They're called The Hungries.

[@frankwashburn6680]

Quinns army: Yan Huo Missile Launcher Two robots: Yaoxie remotes (it's one box w/ 2 bots) 3 Zhanshi (Though the Zhanshi have MUCH better looking sculpts coming out in 1-2 months) 1 Domaru Butai (Also have a MUCH better looking set of sculpts available either as a box, or you can get the pretty good looking sculpt of Neko, who is a 1 point better/more expensive Domaru) Tiger Soldier I can't speak to TIm's because I don't play Combined, but you can get most of his units if you get the Combined Army drone box, Hungries box, and Morat Aggression Force box (6 minis in that box)

[@kajsandberg8642]

I really appreciate this video, though Infinity has some rules that are a bit odd but there for the cinematic effect as well as being fairer. 23:30 when shooting out of a smoke cloud you actually reveal yourself enough for the models you are shooting to see you (with a penalty if you try and shoot back, or a dodge with no mod if your opponent wants to try and live). Keep the good work up!

[@MorganTheMad]

THE VEIL OF REALITY WEAKENS. THE DARKLIGHT COMES.

[@Mortendk]

the whole army is panicking now - just like warhammer *ush! ;)

[@msgames6889]

Hi guys, I think you're overdo for another review of infinity :P

[@KnightedDawn]

They call him Dr. Worm. He's not a real doctor, but he is a real worm; he is an actual worm.

[@Chayat0freak]

disco, disco!

[@thosewhocando]

Lovely board.

[@greysky1252]

thank you for not rolling your dice into the play area like civilized people.

[@hedgehogwillable]

What's the weird flashy thing?

[@Panquernic]

aesthetic

[@RichGwilliam]

The eye of sauron.

[@Torkijo]

Wondering if you have played N4 or Code One?

[@Samakain]

Man. I really feel like playing Zuma. Zumazumazumazuma.

[@dave4deputyZX]

That was awesome guys

[@AnonymousQube]

Good morning! How are you? I'm Dr Worm!

[@THESP-rz3hg]

I'm not a real doctor, I just have this gun that makes people better.... But I am a real worm.

[@HurlySheperd]

doctor worm is my hero!

[@gumbunch]

I've developed epilepsy.

[@EnemySpottedWargaming]

Great show of the game

[@Jchernega1]

Where is the terrain from? It looks great.

[@jasonj5701]

battlesystems.co.uk/ It looks like a mixture of their soon to be delivered shanty town from Urban Apocalypse kickstarted product (which should be available retail around September this year) and their next kickstarter Sci-Fi 2.0 which should launch in the autumn. I have their earlier sci-fi and fantasy products, and can vouch for the fact that they are every bit as good as they look. In fact having see the new sets at UK Expo, they are improving their products significantly with every new release. The last 3 mins of the video is an interview with Colin Young, the owner and designer of BattleSystems.

[@marksteelman7747]

Perhaps Quinns should get a medic

[@ratbaby3107]

"a coalition of chinese and japanese soldiers" not anymore

[@TaShadan]

Nice. Infinity is great :)

[@kudosbudo]

Shame theres no out the box starter sets for this game.

[@TomSedgman]

Quinns, your url in the description is borked.

[@666caveman]

Not gonne lie, every time the strobing happened I could hear Darude - Sandstorm playing

[@FiLtheThriL]

Good game

[@Fergit_]

I enjoyed the CHUG bilboard more than the game.

[@xanadu1215]

Man up, Quinns!

[@bloodnumber13]

wtf, are you trying to destroy my eyes with all that strobing?

[@bluethomas3021]

EPILEPSY WARNING FUCK

[@Cartographer1980]

at 8:13 you couldn't shoot smoke since you have no LOF through your own smoke.

[@ardnutcouk]

Both smoke grenade and light smoke grenade launcher have the speculative fire trait , so I think you can do that but it'll be at a -6 mod to your BS roll

[@Cartographer1980]

+ardnut.co.uk as an entire order, not as a short skill

[@ardnutcouk]

Correct :)

[@docbun]

True question is: was it fun?

[@OG-ReelTales]

Wtf is with the red lights that kill my eyes

[@absolutionis]

What's with the strobe show at 35:02?

[@davidjordal8522]

how did this get so many thumbs up? did that blinking lights crap not bug anyone but me? I got to where the units jumped next to the guy but enough is.enough hurting my eyes.

[@rkk667]

Visually Darude - Sandstorm

[@eatmarth]

not that this comment will mean anything, but you can have youtube reprocess a video without having to re-upload it

[@DickmanComedy]

I thought Disney discontinued this game...

[@IoFoxdale]

The number of times I google 'infinity Miniatures game' and then realise I need to be more specific than that to not come up with Disney stuff is beyond counting at this point.

[@walterhaider869]

Flashing light warning please

[@williammcneil6730]

not to be rude but if the aliens get to be mindlinked which allows u to use one order to move a group instad of one guy why would i use any other faction?

[@IoFoxdale]

Not watched the whole video but regarding moving together: 1) The absolute kings of hanging out together are the Tohaa. Most Tohaa units are able to take part in triads, elite units of three bad asses that can bring whatever combination of stuff in their trio you want because, unlike other fire teams, they don't have to be from the same unit. You don't want to play as Tohaa because the average stat line for them is do doo, they dire to fire exceptionally easily and they struggle to bring big weapons to bear. 2) Sectorials are the other way to get fire teams that move together. These are essentially theme lists that form subsections of the main factions and in return you get access to fireteams. For example you can play either Nomads or you can play *just* units from the Nomad ship Corregidor. On the plus side you get squads, on the downside you don't get access to other nomad troops such as the best hackers in the game. 3) Fire teams aren't actually god kings. They're alot of points because you usually buy more of the models than you'd field defaultly to get the fireteam bonuses, they need to be moved carefully to not be overly exposed and, like literally everything in Infinity, they're exceptionally fragile. Kill the leader? Squads gone, expose two models rather than just the spear head? That guy can't react and you shoot him dead for freebies.

[@IoFoxdale]

Oh and double fun now I'm going through the video: In the case of the Oznat and her pets they're g:synched units. Which are even MORE fragile because if the Oznat dies all the pets are inert and useless. Plus they all have to do the same order and stay within 8" of eachother. Which can be hard when you wanna move and stab with the pets but the Oznat would be safer moving and shooting to cover herself.

[@frankwashburn6680]

Each faction has it's own strength. PanOceania has absurdly high Ballistic skills, across the board, and an absurd number of TAGs (amazing giant stompy robots, look up "PanO Squalos" for an example). Yu Jing has amazing close combat specialists, access to really great infiltrators (units that can start midway up the board), and good options to lay down smoke, and have units that can shoot through that smoke. As well as the most diesel heavy infantry units of all. Haqqislam has incredibly versatile light infantry, as well as Impersonators! What's that, it's Bob from Accounting, he's hanging out WITH us at the beginning of our turn... oh no, it's not Bob, it's an assassin who's just killed our Lieutenant in the first order of the game. Nomads have a lot of tricks and tools, including the best hackers in the game, which can shut down entire swaths of the table with effective area control. And so on.

[@IoFoxdale]

The actual strength of Pan-O is to win every single fire fight and then lose when they fail three WIP checks in a row. It's just science.

[@DrIcchan]

Wow, nice video and terrain but you got soooooo many rules wrong. When the Oznat was firing her first smoke grenade, she would have used two dice since she gets an extra burst from being in a Fireteam. She would have been rolling for 14's (+3 for range). Her second smoke should have been an Intuitive Attack which is an Entire Order, since she just blocked her own Line of Sight with the first smoke.

[@DrIcchan]

Intuitive Attacks however are always Burst 1 even in a Fireteam, but all the other bonuses apply, plus there's a -6 penalty from the Intuitive Attack.

[@DrIcchan]

Yan Huo with the dual missile launcher has an equipment that grants him the Neurocinetics ability which makes him shoot full burst in the Reactive turn, but Burst 1 on the active turn. The Yan huo would have also been at -3 range that close.

[@DrIcchan]

When using Fireteams, you need to mark the Fireteam leader at the start of each activation.

[@DrIcchan]

Even though Q-Drone has Burst 4 in the Reactive Turn, you can never split burst between targets in the Reactive Turn, he has to pick just one target to receive the full burst.

[@DrIcchan]

Q-Drone BS skill is 11, so it would never need 13's to hit. All the modifiers are at intervals of 3. You roll for skill or lower.

[@an3582]

Your thumbnail looks like youre both doing hard work instead of having fun playing a game. From the looks of it, Im right, this requires more work than its worth.

[@EvilSanta92]

ZUMA

[@BathedInMilk]

Yeah weird flashy thing but I'm more concerned about The bloodcurdling scream you can hear in the distance in the last few seconds of the video.

[@Rhidcully]

It was startling, indeed.

[@An_RPG_Abstractionist]

Post a warning about the strobing please, or take down the video.

[@shanehudson88]

I would love to see fantasy dungeon campaign

[@frankwashburn6680]

As a Yu Jing player Quinn you are putting me through agony, get your Rui Shi out there, MSV2 means it can see through smoke! And put your smoke grenade launcher next to it! If you're shooting through smoke, then at best your opponent can ARO shoot back at -6 (that also stacks with the -3 of cover + range bands), or dodge at no penalty! [Edit] - Ah, I see that you do this in Turn 2. And it was your cowardice that enabled the pretas to gain ground, tskkkk tsk!

[@edwarddeguzman3258]

LOL Japanese :D

[@ianshaw5200]

I was enjoying the content, but the strobing effect is absolutely intolerable. I'm not photosensitive, and I wouldn't ordinarily comment. But that's just a terrible effect and I have no idea why you'd use it.

[@OmegaViper]

another awsome but pricey minitures game x3

[@ThatGuy53297]

Looks like 40k.

[@gothknight6]

Why is the video flashing at certain angles? Shouldn't there be a warning for people with photo sensitivity?

[@williammcneil6730]

um how is this game fair quinns has failed most of his rolls tim won most of his if you just get bad rolls the game is over for you ?

[@kkirT]

That's most miniature games.

[@frankwashburn6680]

Keep in mind that despite failing most of his rolls, Quinn was able to fight to a draw. That's pretty impressive. Yeah dice can make or break a game, but skill and tactics absolutely play heavy roles.

[@ShiftyMcGoggles]

Okay, seriously guys. What is your issue with female characters being sexy/wearing skimpy attire? All it says to me is that they're looking to go more for rule-of-cool and draws me into asking 'so, why is it she's going around without much armour? Is it a cultural thing for her kind? For instance, 40ks Wyches. Skimpy outfits on all of them, because they're primarily entertainers, showing off their battle prowess in speed and skill and bulky armour goes against that. Or sisters of Battle, who have boob plates because the Ecclesiarchy is exploiting a loophole in the imperium's Kafkaesque bureaucracy that limits the number of men under their banner. Getting off my soapbox now, cause I'm kinda fed up with people moaning about female miniatures being sexy.

[@psycojester]

I don't think that any of these sci-fi or fantasy people actualy exist and as such any cultural reasons for them to be running around the battlefield in a sexy bikini are just hand wavey bullshit.

[@akiraakiraakiraakira]

sadly unwatchtable

[@matthewnuckles5937]

WHY are you trying to give me a seizure?!? You need a warning or something. IT made this made the video, especially the interview, unwatchable.

[@Jamiemackie]

That is some horrible painting