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[@BeardmanOnline]

How much vw paid for you? 🤣 4 seats, pop outs, less space than kia, phone holder instead of screen, slower than kia, less fun to drive, but no 5/5 it’s a vw 🤣🤣🤣

[@slsamg8223]

This comment is spot on

[@mokodorali5975]

Exactly, most of these journalists take backhanders the sell the german tat to the masses.

[@chepesantacruz777]

Yeah dont even get me started on the difference between the reliability of the two. I dont think the up will make it past 150k km without its engine or gearbox crapping out, while the picanto will easily double or triple that.

[@janbarrettnielsen2559]

I agree with the verdict apart from almost everything. Kia 7 year warranty, side windows rolling up and down in the back, adjustable headrests in the front seats, better drive.....how the eff can you say that the UP is the one you want?..... I've driven both for many miles, and the Kia is better in so many ways.

[@babisotonggg]

agreed

[@sirgaymeerkat1994]

my thoughts exactly!

[@stepheng8779]

Ker-ching. Why I binned auto express, whoever buys the ads got the result, however baffling 🤦

[@denisszr1522]

Up! has less seats in the back, popout windows, smaller boot yet it gets more points than the Picanto. The VW bias is amazing

[@jaisabai4155]

And Kia doesn't have the recent sinister history that VW has.

[@getphuked2]

the Only good VW is the BUG and the Rabbit/“GT GOLF”.

[@friendlyuser1]

7 yr warranty doesn't cut it in the build quality dept ? BS result

[@babisotonggg]

agreed, that parts is such as bs

[@jamescoleman4059]

Cry

[@MrWestcliffe]

I kind of sensed it from the start, badge snobness wins...People buying these cars are sensible and looking for practicality, comfort, reliability and peace of mind. So Kia wins all day long. Even the Dacia should have been there as well, if you want a the cheapest usable family car the only option you'll have. and 3k saving is significant in this category.

[@littledan6994]

People these days.... 25 grand on a car...1 grand on insurance, and 100 quid a day on petrol... all for a monthly wage of 1200 quid... 👏 who doesn't love modern day society 👍

[@FreQ135]

Tough to take this seriously. The Picanto was the obvious winner, but the Dacia being struck off immediately despite being 30% cheaper (!!) was crazy.

[@richardalan9835]

Strangely no mention of chain cam Kia engine versus 30k cam belt change interval on Up. These are serious cost factors in a budget car.

[@darthvaper6745]

Picanto GTLine is frickin amazing. Love it

[@littledan6994]

If 10 GRAND can't get you something decent in this world, no matter what it is... We need to do something about it!!

[@nigel.w]

The Picanto is now from 13,400. MG3 from 13,300. Sandero from 13,000 (almost double what it was then, and this new model was only 8,000 pre-Covid). Aygo no longer offered. Aygo X is from 16,000. Panda from 14,500.

[@littledan6994]

@@nigel.w was looking at porsche's for that price the other year...what a joke its become

[@Birmingham_racing]

Yes second hand

[@jacko791]

@@nigel.w Thanks for doing the leg work. I was just about to check to see if you could still get any of them for under 10k. Was discussing the rapid inflation on entry level cars with some friends recently and none of them believed the numbers I was throwing out. They thought I was talking about increases since we were kids, not from 2 or 3 years ago

[@franzchong5889]

Australia you can get anything for less than that if you don't mind buying 2008-2009 common one size anything bigger.Corolla,Civic,Mazda 3's all come to mind.yes the mileage might be getting on a bit and age but for 30 to 50% of the price of any new age light car you could do worse.

[@chriscuthbertson]

Original air date: November 28, 2019

[@JonathanEzor]

I was given a Picanto as a rental when in Israel 3 years ago, and was very pleasantly surprised. We don't get them in the U.S., so it was my first time seeing one, let alone driving one.

[@nigel.w]

Picanto is a surprisngly good little car and quite roomy even for bigger people.

[@toyotaprius79]

Well, that's the free market for you.

[@Mecanic0_exe]

How much VW paid for that conclusion, it's just none sense to take the up over the picanto. Kia made a more practical car with 5 seats rather than 4, it has a bigger boot, actual windows in the back and looks like a bigger car from the inside. Kia is also cheaper and has a 7 year warranty while VW is VW with all of VW problem. And probably the most important conclusion for a petrolhead, picanto is a more enjoyable car to drive, it's faster and in my opinion didn't age as much as the VW on the design

[@aslkdfjhg]

There's a phenomena called "car journalist bias" where the journalist will favour the vehicle with better styling, badge, performance and handling in a segment that prioritises upfront cost, availability and expected useful life. Your average buyer won't actually test drive a car until they are seriously considering buying it. This is why they journalist rate cars highly that actually sell poorly.

[@davidhayes4814]

Maybe it should now be called the under £15K car since sub £10K do not exist. My father-in-law bought a brand new Dacia Sandero Access (68 plate) £6699 …. He even got a small discount from £6999 since a customer had pulled out. Cheap and cheerful of course but these cars no longer exist. The Sandero is a very different car and it costs much more

[@darthvaper6745]

You drove the wrong Picanto....GTLine all day the winner

[@nigel.w]

Picanto should have won this. I think VW got its money's worth. UP! is a good car, but not so much better quality, and the Picanto tested had the 1.25 litre 4-cyl. I've driven both and nearly bought both. If I had to choose, the Picanto is an easy winner, IMO.

[@darthvaper6745]

@@nigel.w totally agree

[@mattprior219]

The Kia was by far the better car. Faster, more fun, more comfortable, proper rear windows, 5 seats, much longer warranty... VW obviously cheated to get around the emissions, sorry, the journalist tests!

[@nigel.w]

I don't really believe this is their honest opinion. The UP! is a good car, but the quality isn't significantly better than the Picanto. And there's no way the Aygo has a better quality interior than the Picanto. The Picanto, as tested, with the 1.25L 4-cyl engine, also had the best powertrain of them all. And is the only one offered with a proper auto. Dropping the MG on the basis of fuel economy alone is also questionable, because the little 3-cyl engines need to be thrashed on an incline and at the national speed limit and above. Fine if almost all your mileage is done within the limits of a flat city, but otherwise they actually chew through quite a lot more fuel than most people would expect, and aren't comfortable doing motorway speeds. Nonetheless, the UP! and the Picanto are the best for sure. But I'd choose the Picanto 1.25 over the UP! any day of the week. I've driven both new and nearly bought both. The Picanto also relatively easily hauls four adults, whereas the UP! as tested does not.

[@TheSuprahuman]

KIA is the better option by far. 7 year warranty, how can that be so easily overlooked. I agree on the VW bias here.

[@ilvron7515]

39:12 Great jump on Picanto!)

[@fatbelly27]

The false boot floor option for the Up makes a big difference. However, when it came out the Up was a clear leader but I think the Picanto now overtakes it in its current form. However, if you can get a 2 y-o Up with the 90 tsi engine.....

[@seinsmeld13]

That is one hell of an engagement ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@LoftechUK]

Really enjoyed this. Have a great new year and see you on the other side

[@rasch19785]

The cars you tested where no were near the base sub 10k cars.. Those look like at least 13k each.

[@carlobi]

Was this a VW ad? Pretty sure buyers at this segment value reliability as well.

[@zanmansor4255]

I take Picanto anytime over Up. Service would be much cheaper and easier. The trouble with car review and reviewers is that they tend to form an opinion after driving it for a short period of time. The sad thing is people value their review on buying the car but after owning it for some time the true color comes out. That's why I always prefer long term review.

[@martingriggs6362]

Here in the US the cheap new car has pretty much disappeared. The only one new car left in 2024 below $20k will be the Nissan Versa.

[@andrewdent696]

This has to be the worst decision that these guys have made. Kia has to be the winner.

[@dawidwsmole2248]

39:03 - there is a spider on the dash xD

[@tobysemler]

We looked at an Up back when they were new. Didn't even take it for a drive, it was such rubbish to sit in. Cheapest nastiest car I ever experienced.

[@babisotonggg]

Picanto should have been the clear winner for this, such a BIAS on VW. Picanto clearly got everything, the most BS is the space, UP got better result for space? wtf

[@seinsmeld13]

I agree, I'd take the Up. Unfortunately it is not sold here in Canada.🤥

[@spider_hoss]

I saw one of those Lambo SUVs on the road yesterday. I don’t know, if it didn’t have the Lamborghini name on the back I would think it’s just another big SUV. It didn’t do any wow thing for me. I tried to snap a picture of it but some beat up Honda blocked my view. (I’m in the US btw).

[@Hermantrueman]

The badge wins 🏆

[@kennethsooley9938]

Not sure if it was Top Gear mag or Car, but one of them joked that Toyota should make a hot version called the “Aygo Crazy.”

[@aldeacristian4582]

Is this Top Gear ordered from Aliexpress?

[@netwolff]

Really nice to see really affordable cars in a head-to-head review. Personally, if I had little money to spend and, for some strange reason, wanted to spend it on a brand new car, I’d probably take the Kia even if I liked the VW better - for the 7 year warranty. Because IF I had little money, THAT would absolutely be the ONE selling point. I have been in both and yes, the VW just feels more mature but money is money.

[@robertlloyd7493]

Great episode thanks 👍

[@Iamneverright]

The Kia wins for me. If I was in the market, and on a budget for a new small car, My head cannot get past the 7 year warranty, also I have dealings with VW in the past, and TBH not good..

[@colinhoward74]

How much did VW pay you ?????

[@tomazikov]

They are all good if you not picky as they are

[@tobysemler]

"traditional Volkswagen quality feel" LMAO! Up will be junk in a few years. Kia and Toyota will last a lifetime.

[@leedstown]

Same episode just been on TV, am liking the urus

[@devonloubser5211]

Kia Picanto's have the worst glaring halogen headlights in respect to other drivers on the road, I've been a passenger in a Kia Picanto and the headlights literally light up the whole neighbourhood and actually illuminate the tree tops with the height these vehicles project light... This is a huge design fumble in my opinion and is very inconsiderate to other road others as it shines glaring light directly into the eyes of other road users!

[@oi32df]

Meanwhile the only micro car, and not even really micro, available in north america is the Mitsubishi Mirage. A real car desert here since there are more pick-ups and suvs than cars. In Canada, where gasoline is expensive, we are subject to the taste of American buyers and manufacturers don't bring interesting little car at all.

[@rickstevens1479]

Hunter S Thompson had a Lambo suv...😂

[@sirgaymeerkat1994]

they now need to do an updated version of the 10k car test! maybe 12k in today's money!

[@FateHasWritersBlock]

more like at least 15K

[@CaptainHoratioPugwash]

This episode aired in 2019 so £11,750 adjusted for inflation.

[@nigel.w]

The Picanto is now from 13,400. MG3 from 13,300. Sandero from 13,000 (almost double what it was then, and this new model was only 8,000 pre-Covid). Aygo no longer offered. Aygo X is from 16,000. Panda from 14,500.

[@littledan6994]

Everyone needs to stop paying these stupid prices and say what they're really worth. There is no way these cars are worth that much its ridiculous. People will be paying 50k for corsa's next 🤦‍♂️

[@davefloyd9443]

My local used car lot in Hampshire blatantly said that "£5k cars before the pandemic are £7k cars now".

[@Speed_and_Power]

Only in the UK is a 1.5 I4 “too big of an engine” lol.

[@littledan6994]

I've got some old beautifully rustic garden chairs if anyone wants them for 8k...bargain of the century 🤦‍♂️

[@Paravantos]

“Most people will buy these cars for shopping “ they said… but than they start only driving them on their limits. W. T. F. ? My grandma or my sister will buy these and there is no difference in driving experience at such driving style …

[@lewisgoddard9585]

A good one for this battle... Renault Mégane gt220 sport tourer! Absolutely

[@netwolff]

That would be ways out of the price range, wouldn’t it?

[@lewisgoddard9585]

@@netwolff not at all really.. can pick them up. If you're lucky though they're rare as hell! We got ours for 7.5k

[@netwolff]

@@lewisgoddard9585 New?

[@lewisgoddard9585]

@@netwolff not new no it's a 15 plate

[@netwolff]

@@lewisgoddard9585 That's what I thought - the review in this video is about new cars.

[@scottwilliams5178]

A shame you missed a trick with the £10k cars. Vicki should have come chasing you in the Toyota Aygo to set a lap time.

[@vladx2]

VTEC kicks in __

[@brucerenney1371]

Jason, yes the Dacia is not u[p to the Europeans in terms of refinement but they are significantly less around 35%. I would say that your comment really is not relevant to the situation given

Cool video.

[@nah3193]

The organization of these videos are unwatchable... Just do one segment at a time I don't need a frickin C plot here

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

Easy Don’t watch the video

[@RoniAlboim]

I see, a budget car, 1000£ less, bigger, can service a family of 5 instead of 4, 7 year warranty that is backed by much better history of not braking down in that much more fun to drive with same fuel economy never mind popup windows and lack of screen adjustable headrest etc. and the other car wins......did I miss something?

[@andrewnorris5415]

Did they do 2nd hand in another vid? I am 1000 times more interested in that! Why does YT only recommend me this. Not interested!

[@lawrencehenshaw7491]

Simply put the vw hasn't got fog lights, costs more too maintain and simply is a rubbish option. VW only concern is money not the realistic world.

[@Elaba_]

The only way is up.

[@joec1641]

Time to test the bmw. call it ugly. oh wait, have you seen our shoes??

[@Paravantos]

Fifth gear cannot shed down a long defunct mentality of German/euro biased mentality! This mentality is only remained in south-Eastern Europe, even Russia evolved beyond this and buying more Japanese and Korean cars because they are simply more reliable and better value for the money.

[@etiennebozec855]

what si this format ? it's unwatchable... let me see only the cheap cars

[@kisors1947]

Budget hd 😁

[@hduncan2587]

Disappointing episode for not just the final winner of the 10k shootout that is so obviously stated, but what even was the point of talking about the NSX without actually giving us the sound? Who in hell is your audio engineer? Fifth Gear may survive, but at least Top Gear knows how to actually hook us up with the audio. At least they gave us some noise for Vicky's Urus drive... even though it's just another VWAG blandmobile underneath.

[@davidline2454]

I’d take the panda over the bmw any day

[@2wyldrc195]

Wow!

[@XZinvideos]

Money talks on Fifth Gear

[@MENSA.lady2]

All of these are modern rubbish. For much less than £10K I suggest a Morris Minor, even rag-top examples can be found in this budget. Register it as a classic and no road tax to pay and MOT exempt. No depreciation either. Much better buy.

[@toyotaprius79]

How many of these cars are still sold? And for the same price with inflation.

[@derbigpr500]

Yes they are if they're 10k 15 year old German cars. New ones? No thanks.

[@franzchong5889]

6K to $10k BUYS plenty down under in a small car if you know where to look.It's a size bigger than any of these tiddlers but in an accident I know what I would rather be in some Corolla/Golf/Mazda 3 class of vehicle than anything less.

[@tobysemler]

@@franzchong5889 No it doesn't. Used car prices are very high here. Almost nothing under $10k and 100,000km.

[@happyatheists9361]

Nsx😍

[@sukhdevr3489]

Why spend 10k on these shitboxes when a used car is far superior and if you buy a good one more reliable?

[@franzchong5889]

some people don't know any better.I have in Australia seen the Picanto plus a lot of these competitors and the entry level models are around $18000 to at least $25000 with automatic and the rest of it.I figured at a car warehouse you can buy anything a full size bigger for less(No Haggling)which size wise is a hell of a lot safer and you avoid new car depreciation.it might have more owners(minimum of 2)than you would like and is a 2008-2012 or 2013 of something but I know even if it needs a little work what options on a budget I would rather have.price wise you are way in front by about 30 to 50%

[@Paravantos]

Anyone with some common sense would choose Kia over VW! First of all it is MUCH more reliable ! Second of all has 7 years warranty!! More than double of an unreliable VW!

[@Kelveron]

Bearded bloke's ridiculous overreaction to the X7!! 🙄

[@babisotonggg]

Picanto GTLine is the bomb

[@jettriver8761]

In which real world road in the uk can you drive at 190mph..

[@boci11]

Kia Picanto is the real winner !